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I Choose...Brooke Shields · I Choose Me with Jennie Garth

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Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hi, everyone,
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Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about
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Speaker 1: the choices we make and where they lead us. My
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Speaker 1: guest today is a Hollywood superstar. Her career started when
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Speaker 1: she was a tiny baby, and she has conquered just
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Speaker 1: so many obstacles in her life. She's known for Blue
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Speaker 1: Lagoon and Endless Love, her breakout performance as Joey's crazy
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Speaker 1: girlfriend on Friends, which led her to starring in her
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Speaker 1: own sitcom, one of my favorite sitcoms, Suddenly Susan, where
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Speaker 1: she killed it at comedy, and her most recent Netflix movie,
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Speaker 1: Mother of the Bride. She is the subject of the
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Speaker 1: documentary Pretty Baby Brookshields, which was a testament to how
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Speaker 1: strong and smart she is, how much she has endured
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Speaker 1: in her long career that has spanned multiple decades. She
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Speaker 1: is a mama, she's an entrepreneur. She's a badass. You guys,
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Speaker 1: please welcome Brookshields to the I Choose Me Podcast. Thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with.
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Speaker 2: Us, Thank you for having me.
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Speaker 1: I'll just jump right in. You've had some incredible highs
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Speaker 1: in this business, but I have to admit, even considering
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Speaker 1: all of that and loves. I love what you are
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Speaker 1: doing and saying right now. You are out front helping
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Speaker 1: to knock down these archic stereotypes that we should just
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Speaker 1: be put out to pasture after fifty and never seen
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Speaker 1: again after sixty. So you've partnered with GSK to help
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Speaker 1: people thrive at fifty plus. Let's talk about what people
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Speaker 1: fifty plus need to be aware of when it comes
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Speaker 1: to our health, specifically our immune system.
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Speaker 2: We have to become people have to really take their
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Speaker 2: health in their own control and ask their doctors, ask
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Speaker 2: their pharmacists about your risk for shingles, and about vaccination.
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Speaker 2: There is so much that we are not made aware of,
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Speaker 2: and we have to ask, and it's so important that
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Speaker 2: we understand the statistics that ninety nine percent of those
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Speaker 2: fifty years and older actually already have the virus that
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Speaker 2: causes shingles inside their body. Okay, no, not all of
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Speaker 2: them are going to get it, but by the same
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Speaker 2: token staggering. I didn't know that. I had no idea,
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Speaker 2: so when I heard it, I was like good, no good,
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Speaker 2: and so I partnered with j's k's Thrive at fifty
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Speaker 2: plus campaign because that was the messaging that they really
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Speaker 2: said to me. Was the most important for them, and
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Speaker 2: the idea of really being proactive in this era of
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Speaker 2: your life and being your own advocate. You know, a
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Speaker 2: million about a million estimated people develop shingles in the
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Speaker 2: US just per year, and it's painful and it's terrifying,
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Speaker 2: and it's disruptive and it is it. I have a
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Speaker 2: friend who had to stop work for two weeks, and
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Speaker 2: you know she's going to afford to do that. That
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Speaker 2: wasn't you know, And it really read tavoc on her life.
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Speaker 2: So to me, it's important in this era. When you
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Speaker 2: talked about changing stereotypes. Part of how we do that
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Speaker 2: we don't sit and just wait for a narrative to change.
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Speaker 2: We start speaking about ourselves differently. We stop using words
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Speaker 2: like aging or anti aging or dry or all these words.
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Speaker 2: I'm so synonymous with just being female over forty. Practically
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Speaker 2: I'm fifty nine, So you know this is I'm definitely
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Speaker 2: in the in the and according to you know, the stereotype,
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Speaker 2: I got one foot in the grave. And that messaging
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Speaker 2: was I don't want my daughters, and you have three daughters,
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Speaker 2: right I do. Baby girls are always going to be your
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Speaker 2: baby girls. Yes, I have a baby eighteen year old
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Speaker 2: and a baby twenty one year old, and I want
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Speaker 2: them to know that this is not the big scary
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Speaker 2: era of age. But we are armed with many positive things,
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Speaker 2: many progressive ways that we can own our health, own
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Speaker 2: our lives, and take a power that we are. The
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Speaker 2: messages that we're not, we no longer have it, and
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Speaker 2: I don't even think about taking it back. I just
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Speaker 2: think about revealing it even more.
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Speaker 1: I heard you in an interview once say that you
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Speaker 1: didn't feel fully in your body until you were in
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Speaker 1: your forties. And I know that feeling firsthand. And I
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Speaker 1: also know all that it takes to get to that
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Speaker 1: kind of self discovery when you grow up in the
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Speaker 1: business that we have grown up in and when you
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Speaker 1: just want so much to be confident in just being you.
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Speaker 1: Why did it take us so long to grow up
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Speaker 1: and to truly love and value ourselves?
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Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, we're in a ridiculously demigrating and
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Speaker 2: deridict being I can't even say the word industry. So
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Speaker 2: first of all, our whole industry is based on comparison
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Speaker 2: to look like that, or you're not enough of this,
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Speaker 2: so you're not. That's just all about that it's negative
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Speaker 2: and it gets drilled into us from a very young age.
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Speaker 2: The thing that's amazing to me is this is every
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Speaker 2: woman's flight. Really ours is played out on this ridiculous stage,
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Speaker 2: and that comes with its own challenges. But it took
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Speaker 2: me until I was pregnant. Actually, as being pregnant, my
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Speaker 2: body finally had a purpose aside from looking a certain
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Speaker 2: way or being a certain standard or fitting into something
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Speaker 2: or looking like so and so and so. That was
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Speaker 2: a really important right of passage for me. And then
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Speaker 2: just it started when I was forty. I just started
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Speaker 2: to realize that I could do things on my own terms,
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Speaker 2: that I didn't have to first go through the checklist
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Speaker 2: of making sure I was being a good girl or
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Speaker 2: that everybody was going to like me. I went I
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Speaker 2: started shifting the way I asked myself questions. And to me,
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Speaker 2: that was the first step towards you know, again we
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Speaker 2: say love our bodies. Well, there's stuff that's hang in
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Speaker 2: a lot lower now that I wish wasn't. I wish
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Speaker 2: I enjoyed it when it was higher, but I did
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Speaker 2: not enjoy it when it was all in its perky place.
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Speaker 2: And you know, I feel bad about that because I
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Speaker 2: wasted some time for myself.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, you wasted all that time loving yourself.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then you start to really see yourself as
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Speaker 2: a whole, not as your waste size, or as a
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Speaker 2: healthy person, as someone who is not afraid to take
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Speaker 2: their their health and their own on their own terms
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Speaker 2: and ask questions. Ask their doctors, ask their pharmacist. You
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Speaker 2: can ask your pharmacist about everything from your risk for shingles,
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Speaker 2: about vaccination, about anything. This is the period of time
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Speaker 2: when we need to really self advocate.
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Speaker 1: I love that, and that's so true. I've always had
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Speaker 1: a real level of respect for you, and I see you,
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Speaker 1: and I see how you are someone who has always
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Speaker 1: appeared I don't know if this is the case, but
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Speaker 1: you always appeared to have had a sense of yourself,
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Speaker 1: even during times in your early life when maybe you
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Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of agency over what was happening.
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Speaker 1: You didn't only survive, you excelled, and you had to
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Speaker 1: protect yourself. You had to protect your mother, then you
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Speaker 1: had to protect yourself some more than you had to
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Speaker 1: protect your girls. It takes someone who really understands who
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Speaker 1: they are to be able to protect like that, and
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Speaker 1: that is something when I see you, and when I
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Speaker 1: think of you, that's what I think of.
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Speaker 2: Thank you on that is absolutely lovely and beautiful. I
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Speaker 2: don't know how, but maybe it was because I started
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Speaker 2: so young and my mother kept me away from so
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Speaker 2: much of the industry, and I went to all regular
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Speaker 2: grade schools and schools and high schools and college and
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Speaker 2: all of that with just kids who were not in
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Speaker 2: the entertainment industry. I don't know. I think that did
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Speaker 2: have a positive effect on me. I think I somehow
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Speaker 2: learned at an early age that I didn't want them
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Speaker 2: to win, and weakness would allow them to win, and
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Speaker 2: so I sort of had to fake it till I
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Speaker 2: made it because I would think, oh, no, I'm not
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Speaker 2: going to I'm not going to let you. Whether whether
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Speaker 2: I was terrified in betwe inside or not, I didn't
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Speaker 2: want to let them know, and I didn't want to
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Speaker 2: let them get the best of me. And I think
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Speaker 2: that I was so stubborn like that, even just as
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Speaker 2: a little girl, and I had to protect my mother.
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Speaker 2: Like you said, when you have to protect your mom,
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Speaker 2: it's almost as all bets are off, even in a
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Speaker 2: different way than your children. I mean, I'd kill for
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Speaker 2: my children but there's something about protecting your mother source
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Speaker 2: that causes you to have to be really creative in
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Speaker 2: how you stay strong and really creative and how you
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Speaker 2: keep your feet planted. And I started ferreting out things
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Speaker 2: that I knew people couldn't take away from me. Education,
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Speaker 2: my really close friends from high school, those little things
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Speaker 2: that were like my checkpoints to know that whenever I
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Speaker 2: saw the craziness or the bad behavior that was I
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Speaker 2: would say, that's all right, this is my home. And
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Speaker 2: I think I think I was really lucky that I
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Speaker 2: practiced that growing up, and over time the sense of
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Speaker 2: self materialized. It didn't take It wasn't easy, you know,
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Speaker 2: it happened mentally through university or according to the way
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Speaker 2: I would process information. You know, we're not taught to
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Speaker 2: have opinions when we're nobody really asks us what we
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Speaker 2: feel or think about something, whether it's a roll or
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Speaker 2: a part or something. You know, you know this better
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Speaker 2: than anybody, and so you get so used to not
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Speaker 2: having a voice that it's kind of comfortable. It's familiar,
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Speaker 2: you know, And so finding that I had my own
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Speaker 2: intelligence was a revelation. Then finding out that I had
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Speaker 2: this body that would do something extraordinary, like have babies
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Speaker 2: was like I couldn't believe my luck, you know, And
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Speaker 2: I think just over time, you have to fight for it.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know, I think I never even wanted
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Speaker 2: to take drugs because I didn't want to be unaware,
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Speaker 2: because I needed to be at the ready all time
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Speaker 2: something comes at you here, you're ready for it, you know.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a hell of a way to have childhood,
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Speaker 2: but eventually, you know.
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Speaker 1: Becoming natural right. Your work ethic and your drive also
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Speaker 1: inspired me in my career and in my personal life.
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Speaker 1: And I just kind of want to ask you what
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Speaker 1: motivates you to keep reinventing yourself time and time again,
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Speaker 1: because I know for me that's what it is. Like
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Speaker 1: I look back now and I say, oh, there, that's
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Speaker 1: where I was at a certain point in my life.
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Speaker 1: But somehow, by the grace of whatever, I managed to
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Speaker 1: turn that into something else, then something else, and then
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Speaker 1: something else, until here we are.
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Speaker 2: Rejection failure.
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Speaker 1: And not wanting them you said before, not wanting them
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Speaker 1: to win.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, you get enough of that, which
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Speaker 2: is all the time you start thinking, Okay, well I
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Speaker 2: can just sit here and stay in that place, or
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Speaker 2: I can pivot enough to stay creative, but keep moving through.
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Speaker 2: You know, you can argue whether it's forward or not.
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Speaker 2: You know, who knows. But there's this pivot. You know,
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Speaker 2: out of college I couldn't get it, couldn't get a
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Speaker 2: film job or a TV job. And I was like
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Speaker 2: twenty pounds every year, bad haircut, and I was no
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Speaker 2: longer the Brookshields that went into the university and I
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden I came out and thought they
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Speaker 2: were gonna like me because I was an educated actress
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Speaker 2: and we know how Hollywood likes smart actresses. And I thought, oh, oh, oh, okay,
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Speaker 2: well what can I do? And it became you know,
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Speaker 2: can I write? Can I does theater open up for me?
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Speaker 2: Does TV open up for me? Because I wasn't in
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Speaker 2: TV at that point. And so it's this idea of
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Speaker 2: just not losing, just continuing to.
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Speaker 1: Move through, not giving up.
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Speaker 2: And also, you know, we worked hard when we were younger,
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Speaker 2: and still to this day, I had a work ethic
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Speaker 2: instilled in me by my mom. I mean, my daughter
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Speaker 2: just recently did her third internship at a GMA and
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Speaker 2: the first thing I said to was show up earlier,
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Speaker 2: leave later, make yourself necessary. I don't care if you
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Speaker 2: have nothing to do, buind something to do. Be proactive.
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Speaker 2: I don't care if it's holding someone's head over the toilet,
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Speaker 2: if they're puking and bringing them you know, anchor coffee,
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Speaker 2: or rewriting a script or you know, handing out. I
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Speaker 2: don't know. It doesn't matter what it is. Keep your
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Speaker 2: eyes and ears open and work hard, because that's the
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Speaker 2: one thing that can't be taken away from you.
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Speaker 1: Oh true, did you ever feel at any point in
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Speaker 1: your life that you were like significantly stuck in that
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Speaker 1: before the pivot?
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Speaker 2: Definitely? First of all, I've got to say, your voice
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Speaker 2: is so soothing, and when I hear mine, I feel
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Speaker 2: like it's grating oks And then.
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Speaker 1: You start talking like, oh oh thanks.
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Speaker 2: Say this maybe it's a lovely thing. Thank you for
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Speaker 2: being so beautiful presence. And every time I had to
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Speaker 2: always go through that crying and angry and I'm worthless
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Speaker 2: and I hate this and I'm never going to do
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Speaker 2: it again, and I can't do it, and I'm all
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Speaker 2: these things that I listened to, all my bad tames,
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Speaker 2: and then I realized, oh this doesn't feel really good,
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Speaker 2: so I better change my way of thinking. And distract
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Speaker 2: myself by something else that I haven't been rejected by it.
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Speaker 2: So I think that that's the place that I felt
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Speaker 2: the most stuck and did not see a way out,
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Speaker 2: was through postpartum depression. That was that none of my
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Speaker 2: old habits or approaches or beliefs had any place when
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Speaker 2: I was experiencing that something like that. That flattened to
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Speaker 2: me that nothing else had ever done before, nothing had
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Speaker 2: ever undone me before, and this undid me.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it just goes against are as women what were.
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Speaker 1: It's so shameful. I had it on my third daughter,
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Speaker 1: and I know exactly yes, right, that's just I don't
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Speaker 1: even know if I had it on the first or second,
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Speaker 1: to be quite honest, because I was so out of
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Speaker 1: my body at all times, just like functioning and continuing
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Speaker 1: forward that I didn't really ever just like drop in
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Speaker 1: and feel my feelings. I was just do do do?
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Speaker 1: Do you know?
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Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I don't know. And it's not what
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Speaker 2: we're told. We're told we have the baby handed to you,
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Speaker 2: and your hair cascades down and the baby latches on
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Speaker 2: look up and you're just it's bliss, and the birds
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Speaker 2: flying around your head like that's the least why.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like that for It wasn't like that
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Speaker 1: for me either.
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Speaker 2: Nope, And I think that you know, it's hard todn't
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Speaker 2: feel like a failure, but we're so prone to feeling
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Speaker 2: like failures as women. We're all we're told why it's
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Speaker 2: our fault. And I believe me, I never even knew
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Speaker 2: that I had this rather feminist approach to things and
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Speaker 2: it's something against men, but I never I just my value.
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Speaker 2: I never realized how threatened it was all the time.
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Speaker 2: And then you have this biochemical situation with this something
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Speaker 2: that you're told is supposed to be so natural. And
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Speaker 2: I was convinced I was a normal and you know
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Speaker 2: when I was a huge failure and made a huge
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Speaker 2: mistake and shouldn't have played God and all of this
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Speaker 2: and all of that is unnecessary punishment for us.
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Speaker 1: You posted a video a couple of weeks ago, I
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Speaker 1: think now about being an empty nester. I'm really close
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Speaker 1: to that, and there's just such a mixed bag of
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Speaker 1: emotions for me surrounding that big milestone. How is it?
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Speaker 1: How are you adjusting?
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Speaker 2: So I'm thankful to my children for it, even telling
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Speaker 2: me how to do trending tiktoks or maybe that was
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Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure what it was, but whatever that was,
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Speaker 2: they totally directed me in it. And that's that's the
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Speaker 2: only way I get to do those things is if
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Speaker 2: tell me I should do it, you know it. The
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Speaker 2: second one is different than the first one because or
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Speaker 2: the third, because it does leave a different type of
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Speaker 2: emptiness and silence that it's just really unfamiliar. So I
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Speaker 2: think that that was sort of the first shock. But
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Speaker 2: then they're thriving so much and they have each other.
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Speaker 1: That's you're so lucky.
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Speaker 2: But then you go through the fear of not being
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Speaker 2: needed anymore, and therefore my worth is like well, what
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Speaker 2: I mean, they're not crying and missing their mother like that.
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Speaker 2: That's threatening, you know, And then you sort of like,
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Speaker 2: you know, it's just you and the dog, and you're
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Speaker 2: kind of like, oh, this isn't so bad. Like I
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Speaker 2: have time in a different way, to be ambitious, to
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Speaker 2: do nothing, to be with friends, to say yes without
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Speaker 2: checking for schedules and practice and basketball and parents and this,
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like there's this whole world
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Speaker 2: of scheduling that I don't have to salt anymore.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which is really a relief, certain freedom.
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Speaker 2: Got time.
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Speaker 1: It's your time to shine. Yeah, I have the twenty
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Speaker 1: one and the eighteen year old. They're still at home
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Speaker 1: with me, but I mean just watching them grow into
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Speaker 1: these incredible, like self aware, driven young women is just
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Speaker 1: the gift of life for me. And my daughters have
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Speaker 1: really held me up at certain times. Have you have
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Speaker 1: you felt that and did you ever feel any like
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Speaker 1: guilt or shame around that because you were supposed to
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Speaker 1: be the one that has it all together, even though
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Speaker 1: you're just going through everything for the first time yourself
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Speaker 1: and learning as you go, Like I remember feeling like, wait,
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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be the strong mom here.
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Speaker 2: I mean, yes, absolutely, but it was It was interesting
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Speaker 2: the way it happened for me. My younger daughter was
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Speaker 2: in a tizzy about something, and she was explaining to
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Speaker 2: me what I where I was wrong and where but
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Speaker 2: not really wronged her, but just where I was looking
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Speaker 2: at the situation inappropriately and unnecessarily, And she just laid
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Speaker 2: it into me with such clarity and no judgment, just
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Speaker 2: and love, like there was love in her judgment, which
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Speaker 2: is interesting, but it was true, and I just burst,
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Speaker 2: I laughed, I burst out laughing, and she got madder
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Speaker 2: and mad her and she was like, why you're laughing,
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Speaker 2: This is not funny. And I said, sweetheart, I hope
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Speaker 2: and pray for you. If it's what you want. You
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Speaker 2: always have to clarify everything now that if and when
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Speaker 2: you choose or hope or blessed with having a child,
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Speaker 2: they will one day turn around and teach you and
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Speaker 2: it will shock your system and you will realize what
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Speaker 2: a gift it is. And I said, you know what,
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Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. I was not acting in my best
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Speaker 2: interest and my ego was driving me, and it was
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Speaker 2: just it didn't it was about it was about wearing clothes,
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Speaker 2: and believe it or not, it was about something absolutely frivolous.
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Speaker 2: But the lesson was she had such clarity, and I thought.
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Speaker 3: This is I've done my job well enough so that
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Speaker 3: they are their own people, so it's not threatening to
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Speaker 3: me when they when when the.
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Speaker 2: Roles are reversed. I was relieved for my daughters that
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Speaker 2: she was able to teach me and educate me.
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Speaker 1: Right at first, it's like a tough pill to swallow,
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Speaker 1: like you're like, wait, what this is not okay? Rule reversal,
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Speaker 1: But then I'm so grateful, like I feel like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I've done something well, I've done something right.
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Speaker 2: Well that's the thing. You're like, how dare you be
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Speaker 2: so right? And you're like, oh, and then it opens
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Speaker 2: a conversation.
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Speaker 1: So it really does.
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Speaker 2: But it's like it's like with anything, you know. I
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Speaker 2: Hey know when your girls first go to a gynecologist
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Speaker 2: in there and they're all, you know, you no longer
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Speaker 2: you're no longer going in there with them. Well, by
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Speaker 2: the time we're the gynecologists and usually not but probably,
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Speaker 2: I mean the conversation and you start teaching them to
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Speaker 2: ask questions for themselves, ask questions. This is your body,
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Speaker 2: You're able to do that. It's what it's what the
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Speaker 2: drive up if you plus campaign is about. It's like,
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Speaker 2: it's every step of the way we have to learn
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Speaker 2: that our bodies are our own and whatever that entails
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Speaker 2: to you and be proactive. So it's all these messages
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Speaker 2: that I never learned as a child and took me
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Speaker 2: a long time to learn, and it took outside influences
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Speaker 2: to help me learn that. I'm trying to save them
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Speaker 2: a little time and pepper the pepper the information into
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Speaker 2: their lives and hope they hope they hear it.
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Speaker 1: I love that I loved your documentary Pretty Baby. If
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Speaker 1: anybody that's listening didn't see that, you should definitely go watch.
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Speaker 1: It takes so much bravery to share yourself on that level.
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Speaker 1: You opened up about some of your darker moments in
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Speaker 1: your life, and I've found that riveting. And now I
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Speaker 1: just want to know, like, with all that deeply personal
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Speaker 1: information that you've shared out there in the open, how
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Speaker 1: do you feel? Because I know after I've shared sometimes
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Speaker 1: I feel like, oh no, how can I get that back?
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Speaker 2: I think you always feel what have I done? But
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Speaker 2: going into it, I really I talked to the director
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Speaker 2: and I said, look, I'm going to hand over all
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Speaker 2: of my archives to you, and all I ask is
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Speaker 2: that as you were watching through, as you were coming
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Speaker 2: through this, that the narrative that you'd come up with
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Speaker 2: is something bigger than me. Otherwise it's a true Hollywood
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Speaker 2: story or worse, where are they now? And you know,
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Speaker 2: and so you're like, oh God, but what I believe
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Speaker 2: this director did and I had to just trust. So
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Speaker 2: that was and I will say I have been burned
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Speaker 2: so many times by trusting that this was the ultimate trust.
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Speaker 2: But I felt like it was time and it was appropriate,
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Speaker 2: and she made this documentary about a larger conversation about
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Speaker 2: the sexualization of young women, especially in our society, and
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Speaker 2: it just broadened the view of one person's story. And
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Speaker 2: I was the conduit to a bigger conversation. And that,
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Speaker 2: to me, is the biggest gift of all.
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Speaker 1: Did your daughter see that that they see the reason
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Speaker 1: that you did it?
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Speaker 2: One of them did, the other one did not. My
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Speaker 2: younger one, Bob will forever be angry with me. I
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Speaker 2: she was ambushed with the information. I just it was
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Speaker 2: a bad, bad mom move on my part. I didn't
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Speaker 2: set her up, and she doesn't like being surprised. She
25:14
Speaker 2: doesn't like me. She felt sort of cold cocked, and
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Speaker 2: I just didn't. I assumed it would be fine. I thought, well,
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Speaker 2: she knows her mother. Her mother's healthy and not damaged,
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Speaker 2: and you know, and I thought it would be she
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Speaker 2: would be able to look at us now and think like, wow,
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Speaker 2: you are You've come a long way, and isn't that great?
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Speaker 2: And no, no, no, she said she will never be
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Speaker 2: okay with it. She will never be okay with anything
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Speaker 2: happening to me. And my older daughter really thought about
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Speaker 2: it and said, well, it was tough. I don't need
25:48
Speaker 2: to see that again, but women need to see this.
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Speaker 2: So I think that period of maturity helped my older
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Speaker 2: daughter to understand it differently. And I'm not sure where
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Speaker 2: my my eighteen year old is gonna get any better.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if she's good.
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Speaker 1: Maybe she'll get there maybe those years.
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Speaker 2: Well, I hope it's not through the hard way.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't we all? Before I let you go, Brookshields,
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Speaker 1: what was your last I choose me moment?
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Speaker 2: So it's so menial and silly, that's okay. Over the weekend,
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Speaker 2: I had so much to do. I had so many
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Speaker 2: parents packing and unpacking and moving and work stuff and zooms.
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Speaker 2: And I literally got a cup of tea, went out
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Speaker 2: on the little swing on my small little front porch
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Speaker 2: and I sat there for an hour and a half
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Speaker 2: and did things like strands, connections, needle point. I did
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Speaker 2: this like all these things that were that I never
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Speaker 2: really do, and they were just sort of mindless, and
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Speaker 2: I felt like I had had a vacation or a
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Speaker 2: massage after about an hour and a half, and that
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Speaker 2: was I chose me for that hour and a half
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Speaker 2: rather than waking up and going directly into chores and
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Speaker 2: things that I had to do in Errand's so just
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Speaker 2: choosing me in a quiet way was it was really
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Speaker 2: was healing for me.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes it's just those moments that we need.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's staying before in the morning, binging some show.
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Speaker 2: I mean like, sometimes I feel like I'm getting away
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Speaker 2: with so much if I still to get up at
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Speaker 2: six or seven the next day, But it doesn't matter
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Speaker 2: because how quiet time is mine. And you know I
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Speaker 2: used to feel guilty for that, and I don't anymore.
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Speaker 1: I love that. I've loved our conversation and I love
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Speaker 1: what you're doing, and I just want to say thank.
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Speaker 2: You, thank you so much, good luck with your your latest,
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Speaker 2: your last baby, and thank you.
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Speaker 1: I want to thank Brooke for coming on. She is
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Speaker 1: such an inspiration to so many women that you can
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Speaker 1: be anything you want, You can change and evolve as
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Speaker 1: many times as you like in this lifetime. And I
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Speaker 1: love that as we continue to choose ourselves each week,
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Speaker 1: I want you to try a little self care. Okay,
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Speaker 1: when was the last time you had a bubble bath
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Speaker 1: or got a massage or sat on your porch. My
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Speaker 1: favorite form of self care is usually sitting outside like Brooke,
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Speaker 1: just enjoying nature and turning off my mind from all
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Speaker 1: that is going on up there. I also love bubble baths,
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Speaker 1: so maybe you'll find me in one later today. This week,
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Speaker 1: I want you to put yourself on your calendar and
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Speaker 1: have a little I Choose Me time with no guilt,
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Speaker 1: no shame, because it is vital that we put ourselves
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