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The Bill Gates Epstein Related Congressional Transcripts (Part 14) (6/30/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to get right
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  back to the Bill Gates transcript from his meeting with
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  Congress mister Bell. Good evening, mister Gates, Wesley Bell, Missouri's
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  first District. I'm going to introduce what's been labeled as
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  minority Exhibit M, which is a photo of you, mister Epstein,
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  Boris Nikolitch, Jess Daley, and Larry Summers. Is that correct, Gates? Yeah, Belle?
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  And one was this photo taken? Answer by Gates, Yeah,
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  I can give you the date there it is. No
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  you just want buy it, mister Moran. No, this is
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  a different one, Gates. This is a different one, Moran,
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  than the one we just than what you just gets
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  cut off by Gates. Okay, but it's on the same night.
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  I mean, there's only one night that these five people
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  are in the same location. So if you just tell
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  me that date question, May second, twenty eleven, Gates, this
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  is a dinner at Epstein's New York residence on May second, eleven. Belle,
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  I would like to go piecemeal. So this was May
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  sewid and what year? Gates, twenty eleven? Bell twenty eleven,
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  And where was the photo taken? Gates? This was at
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  Epstein's New York residence, Belle. And this was the first gathering,
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  or a gathering of some sort, Gates. There was a
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  dinner that all five and only the five people you
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  see here had dinner together. I believe this was after
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  the dinner, Belle. And what was the purpose of that dinner? Gates. Yeah,
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  this is the second time that I meet Epstein, and
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  I'm in New York for other things, and we had dinner.
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  I would say the discussion was pretty broad ranging, with
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  doctor Summers talking about the economy and a variety of things,
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  jess Daley talking about a few of the economy things
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  going on. And in all of these meetings I would
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  have brought up the foundation work I was doing, Belle, Okay,
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  But the meeting, the dinner, the purpose of it, what
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  was the original purpose of the meeting? Gates. You know,
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  this is the same second time I meet Epstein. So
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  this idea of going after donors, that really doesn't It
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  may have been mentioned casually, but it's not until twenty
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  thirteen that there's any real engagement on that. So it
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  may have come up, you know, I at the time
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  thought having a chance to listen to doctor Summers and
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  mister Staley would be educational to me. And I was
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  there for other reasons and this fit into my schedule.
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  So this was the second time that I saw mister Epstein.
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  I saw him one more time that year where he
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  dropped by my office and that, you know, that's the
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  three meetings in twenty eleven, and then a year goes by,
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  and in the fall of twenty thirteen there's two meetings
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  and then you have to get out into twenty thirteen
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  before there's any additional meetings. Bell And just to be clear,
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  other than the economy or economic discussions, what else was
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  discussed gates? You know, news of the day, where the
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  foundation was succeeding, what was challenging for the foundation. Doctor Summers,
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  you know, worked at the World Bank and had been
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  part of a book that was very influential to me
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  called the World Development a Report in ninety three which
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  went through why children under five die and it broke
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  it down and that piece of work that he was
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  the head of the project doing that had a substantial
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  impact on me. And I remember bringing it up to
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  him that he influenced my decision to devote philanthropic resources
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  to saving children's lives. Bell, So at the time, did
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  you know Jess Day Gates. No, this is the first
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  time and the last time I ever met Jess Stay.
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  I knew of Jess as a very senior JP Morgan officer. Belle,
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  did you know Larry Summers? Gates? I know a lot
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  about Larry Summers. I'm trying to think if I had
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  met him in person before the dinner. I never had
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  a dinner with Larry Summers. I may have met him,
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  but this was my first extended conversation with them. Belle
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  and mister Gates. Who else was at this gathering? Mister Gates,
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  doctor Nikolic, and mister Epstein, mister Bell just the people
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  in the photo? Answer? Yeah, the dinner was with exactly
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  the five people you see in this photo. Apparently there's
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  multiple versions of the photo. Belle cuts them off. So
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  who took the photo? Gates? Good question, it's clearly not
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  a selfie, mister moron. You don't remember, Gates, I don't remember.
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  Maybe the cook, maybe an assistant, I'm not sure, Belle.
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  And then the last question, were there any young women
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  present on that occasion? Gates? None? Belle, I yield back.
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  Now it's mister submaranium. Thank you again for being here.
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  I haven't been here the whole time. Today today is
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  a busy day, so I apologize if any of the
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  questions I ask you have already been asked. But I'll
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  do my best. But I think earlier so you've been mentioning.
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  The purpose of knowing mister Epstein was he would introduce
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  you to folks who would contribute to the Gates Foundation.
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  And I was just wondering if you could kind of
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  rattle off some people he introduced you to. I think
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  I heard Leon Black and Josh Harris and Mord Zuckerman,
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  maybe Tom Pritzker. Is there anyone else in introduced you
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  to for the purpose of supporting the Gates Foundation? Gates, Well,
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  two things. First, the contributions of global health would not
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  have come to the Gates Foundation, Submaranium, I see Gates.
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  They would have gone to things like Global Alliance four
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  Vaccines or the Global Fund and the other endeavors to
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  help global health, but not to the Gates Foundation, Submaranium,
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  Thank you Gates. Secondly, Epstein was pretty vague about specific
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  names for a long time, and that was frustrating to me,
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  and particularly after dinner and fall of twenty thirteen, when
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  my ex wife Melinda came, she had a very negative
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  reaction to mister Epstein was saying, look, you know, either
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  get these donations. You know, maybe you should just cut
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  it off now showing better judgment than I showed, or
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  you know, make this concrete. And I chose to continue
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  pursuing it. But then I was very hardcore Jeffrey, Okay,
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  who are these people, Let's meet with them. And there's
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  a lot of delay, but eventually the results in September
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  twenty fourteen. Is it September twenty fourteen meeting where we're
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  finally meeting for the first time. This is Epstein showing
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  what he thinks might do this, you know, different from
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  this broad allusion to lots of Wall Street billionaires, lots
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  of Middle East billionaires. You know, he had me meet
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  with people who, as I said, were friendly, but didn't
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  fit that as they were not in any nearer term
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  going to give substantial resources to global health. Mister Summeranium,
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  I apologize. Who are these people? Gates? The people I
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  met that day were Leon Black. I don't know if
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  we were scheduled to see Josh Harris or if he
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  was just in the office there and that was impromptu,
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  but we saw him, Mark Zuckerberg, Tom Pritzker, and that's
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  all Summeranium. Did he ever bring up Les Wexner? Gates
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  ever bring up summaranium? Less Wexner as someone who would Gates, No,
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  that name never came up. Summeranium, Okay, And there was
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  one name one email, and I apologize I don't have
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  copies of it. I can give it to you, but
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  there's an email on September sixteenth, twenty thirteen, saying did
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  Jaye want to meet the follow up with and then
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  redacted and see if her redacted would like to come
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  join Jay's meeting with Brock slash Bill Gates. Gates, I
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  should take a look at that Sumerannium. Yes, I'll give
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  you a copy. Gates, I don't remember it. Submaranium. You
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  weren't on the email, I believe, But I guess I
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  want to know who Barack is because Brock seems to
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  be There are a lot of Brocks. It could be
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  Elwood Barock, it could be Barack Obama. Mister Gates, yeah,
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  I never met any Barocks in connection with Epstein. There
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  were no Brocks whose names were mentioned or that I
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  met with Submerannium, Okay, thank you? And did he Epstein?
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  Never have you sign an NDA at any point or
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  have anyone sign an NDA? Gates? No, I never signed
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  anything in connection with Epstein Summaranian. And did you have
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  him sign an NDA or anyone else signed an NDA
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  at any point? Gates not, mister Epstein. I think I
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  mentioned earlier that it maybe when somebody comes into the
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  Gates Ventures employee or the foundation, they do, but I'm
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  not familiar with what specific practices are Submaranium. And then
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  did you do any sort of background check on him? Gates?
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  On whom Submaranium? On Jeffrey Epstein? Gates, I wish I
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  had done more, but I did enough to know did
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  do enough to know that he had been criminally convicted
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  in two thousand and eight or two thousand and nine
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  of a sexually related offense, mister Summaranium. And since the
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  experience with him, do you do more thorough background checks now? Gates? Absolutely, Summeranium, Okay,
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  thank you, That's all I have. Mister k Morty is
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  now asking questions. Thank you, mister Gates. I'm Congressman Rajah
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  Krishna Morthy from Illinois. Did Jeffrey Epstein ever reference foreign
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  intelligence agencies to you? Gates? He did not question. Did
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  you ever have any evidence or see any evidence that
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  he might have been a foreign asset? Gates? I did
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  not question, did he ever make any threats to you
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  about revealing any particular piece of information about you or
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  your family or your background? Gates? Well, I viewed the
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  attempt to have me reimburse him for things he purportedly
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  paid for for the bridge player. I viewed that as
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  taking a step beyond the veil comments he made during
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  doctor Nikolitch's exit. You know, at that point, although it's
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  kind of trivial, some of money I thought that, you know,
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  was moving further down the line of him threatening, although
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  you know the way he phrased it, is it that
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  this was just a reimbursement for something I did, even
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  going as far as to pretend that I had somehow
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  encouraged him to do so, which is completely false, mister
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  krishnal Morthy. And how much money was that again, that
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  he asked you to pay back? Gates? I won't remember
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  the amounts, but it's you know, thousands of dollars, not
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  tens of thousands of dollars kryshnal Morty Okay. Besides that,
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  did he ever ask you for any other money? Gates? No,
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  I never paid him. I made it clearly he would
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  not be paid, and I never paid him. Christ No
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  Morty Okay. In your discussions with any other world leaders
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  or any other dignitaries, has anybody else referenced Jeffrey Epstein
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  in the context of him having made threats to them
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  or comments to the effect that he might be an
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  intelligence asset? Gates. No mention of Jeffrey Epstein has ever
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  come up in any discussion with the world leaders that
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  I have met. Christnal Morty Forbes, I'm sorry. Wall Street
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  Journal reported that Warren Buffett stopped giving the Gates Foundation
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  in part because of the Epstein situation, and in March
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  of this year, he told CNBC that he's going to
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  make his decision in June of this year, so this
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  month as to whether he's going to give more to
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  the Gates Foundation, based on what else he sees with
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  the Epstein files. What did he tell you gives him
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  cause for concern with regard to your relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Gates,
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  The last time I talked to Warren directly was in January,
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  where we didn't talk about this. I think it was
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  prior to the release of the Epstein file. We talked
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  about my health challenges and some other things. I'm sure
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  you know he's looking at the press. I don't think
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  he has any knowledge other than what he's reading in
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  the press. Question. In an interview with Emily Kirkpatrick, your
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  wife Melinda said that when you first met Jeffrey Epstein.
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  I'm sorry, this is an interview with Gail King of
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  CBS this morning. She said, I regretted meeting Jeffrey Epstein
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  the second I walked in the door. He was abhorrent.
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  He was evil personified. What does she say to you
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  about the first meeting that letter to believe that he
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  was evil personified? Gates, Yeah, so I believe her only
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  meeting with Epstein was the dinner that I had described
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  that she came to, and she definitely had a very
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  negative impression of him. Krishna Morthey, why Gates her instinct
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  about arrogant men or I'm sure what, but she certainly
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  showed better judgment than I did. Question. We have in
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  our notes that you met with Jeffrey Epstein ten times,
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  at least ten times. What's the number that you what
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  is the number of times that you believe that you
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  met with Jeffrey Epstein, mister Gates. You know, I think
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  it depends on whether you count skype calls or the
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  one time he dropped by my office. You know, there
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  was a dinner, a ted dinner that we both attended,
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  but I didn't talk to him. You know, I think
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  it's like twelve to fourteen times plus two skype calls
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  in total over a four year period. Mister Krishna Morty, Okay,
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  thank you very much. All right, folks, we're going to
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  wrap up right here, and in the next episode, we're
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  going to pick up where we left off. All the
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