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  laced up let's go it's time for banter with the
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  boys welcome back to banter with the boys gridiron
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  updates for our tent talk episode where we go
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  over the injuries and news this is for not camping
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  for week four this is not a camping episode yeah
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  nope Blue 10. Yeah, blue. Ah, nice. Good call.
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  We almost were going to call it that, and then
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  we decided not to. I think that was in the running
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  cap when we were coming up with it. We could
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  always change. Anyway, injuries, injuries, injuries.
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  Arizona running back James Conner, done for the
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  season. If you listened to our last episode on
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  the recap of our five games of week three, you
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  had already heard about that. If you did not,
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  go check that out. The L .A. Chargers running
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  back Najee Harris, done for the season. Let's
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  see. New York Giants running back Tyrone Tracy
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  Jr. to miss two to four weeks with a dislocated
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  shoulder. Not a fan of that. I got him in fantasy.
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  I was going to say, he was their starter, so
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  a lot of fantasy owners out there a little disappointed.
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  Time to start Skadaboo. He's mostly drafted already,
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  but we'll get to the fantasy in a minute. Skadaboo,
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  just, ah, man. Never mind, never mind, never
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  mind. I'm not going to joke about CTE, but he
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  plays like he wants that shit. Anyway. Tampa
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  Bay receiver. Oh, no, I skipped over this one.
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  Jeez, how could I do that? San Francisco edge
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  Nick Bosa. Done. ACL. Hurt. Season done. That
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  team. Rumors that, who is it, Cam Jordan maybe
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  from the Saints could end up being traded there.
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  Does he play that position even though? Yeah,
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  he plays end. Okay. How many snaps a game, though,
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  are you going to get out of them at this point
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  that are, like, solid, not Nick Bosa level? Probably.
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  That's just the rumors I've heard as a possible
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  Nick Bosa replacement for the short term. Tampa
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  Bay receiver Mike Evans dealing with a nagging
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  hamstring injury. He's probably out this week,
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  and he could miss multiple weeks. I mean, this
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  is a week -to -week thing. We saw it with Jettas
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  last year. You fantasy owners, look out. Three
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  to four weeks for sure on that one. Yeah, it's
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  going to be a tough one. the bucks too yeah oh
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  100 good thing uh what's his name godwin's coming
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  back baby no the rookie yeah yeah so killing
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  it he's so good uh washington scary terry he's
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  kind of a to be determined as well with a quad
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  injury himself another another kind of nagging
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  injury that that's another one that's kind of
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  a toss -up could be another two weeks could be
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  could be four weeks you know Neither of those
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  players last mentioned were going to IR. This
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  one is the New York Jets linebacker, Quincy Williams,
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  to the IR for his shoulder. That's a big loss
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  for that Jets defense. Houston corner, Derek
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  Stingley Jr. still day -to -day with an oblique
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  injury now. TBD, if he's going to play this week,
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  we'll see. Probably top corner in the NFL. Oh,
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  yeah, one of the top three will go there. Ooh,
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  top three. Yeah, top three. Probably. Because,
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  you know, you still have your defensive MVP in
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  Denver. True. This is true. Dallas guard, Tyler
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  Booker. the rookie, to miss four to six weeks
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  for the Cowboys. Dallas also allegedly without
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  C .D. Lamb for two weeks with a high ankle sprain.
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  I saw somewhere where he said he was going to
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  play. They got lucky with that. That looked like
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  it was going to be worse than it was. Yeah, so
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  hopefully it is only two weeks with a high ankle
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  sprain. That's another one that's kind of those
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  lingering, lagging, or nagging injuries that
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  can last a long time. But right now they're just
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  saying two weeks, roll C .D. Lamb. Do you like
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  that play with your one receiver? A hundred percent.
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  No, I don't. I don't think that's a one receiver
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  type of play. A sweet play. Did you see the play
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  that he got hurt on? I did not. Nope. Oh yeah.
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  It was a wide receiver. Sweet. It was really
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  what it was. He came in motion. Did he come off
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  motion for it? Yeah. I just don't, I think that's
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  your burner guy. You let Pickens do that. I don't
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  know if Pickens, like a turban? Turban would
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  be the guy. I feel like that's his play, you
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  know, with that speed versus why would you even
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  want to. It's a coaching mistake. Yeah, I understand
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  wanting to get the ball in your best player's
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  hands. Come up with safer ways to do that. Like,
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  do a bubble screen or something. Yeah, a little
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  away from the de -tackles and linebackers, you
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  know. Because that play, to be effective, you
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  have to have the threat for the cutback. And
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  to cut back in the NFL, you're running in that
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  de -tackle linebacker area. And I don't know
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  if you want your number one receiver there, you
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  know. Otherwise, you just commit to the outside,
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  and that's what that play is. But sorry about
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  cutting that off. No, you're good. I just thought
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  he's out two weeks. Yeah, at least. Could be
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  more. I just think I don't want to see Justin
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  Jefferson running that play. I don't want to
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  see. Please. I mean, you could add like a Debo
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  style because his body's built for that a little
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  bit more. But I mean, I don't even know if I'm
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  running. I'm trying to think. Chase. What do
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  you run? Chase on that play? No, I don't. Yeah.
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  No, it's the same thing as Jedis. Exactly. No.
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  Yeah. No. I wouldn't even do Tee Higgins either.
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  Take that out of the playbook there, Marty. The
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  last one I have on my list, anyway, if you guys
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  have more, throw them in there. The Washington
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  quarterback, Jaden Daniels, still kind of day
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  -to -day with that knee injury. I have not seen
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  if he's going to end up playing or not. Those
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  were some of the bigger ones. I'm sure there's
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  plenty more out there. It was kind of a big,
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  big week for injuries in the NFL. It was a big.
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  Big names. Yeah. A lot of big names. Any other
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  ones that you guys feel like mentioning? I just
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  got Loveland out for the Bears. He had that hip
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  issue going on. I'm trying to think if there
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  was. Good tight end for them. Alex Pierce for
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  the Colts, and we're going to talk about them
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  later. vikings hargrave um but nothing nothing
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  no other nothing else jumping out and then lane
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  i guess lane johnson um yeah tackle for the you
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  know what he was supposed to be on my list yeah
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  so but yeah that one's a little bit more of a
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  mystery is he for sure out this week or that's
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  kind of like tbd yeah just one of those touchies
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  parts of your body you know and yeah it can linger
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  you know for sure for sure Let's see. You got
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  any, Jake, that you need to throw in there? Any
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  third stringer, Ravens or not? We're forgetting
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  them out here. Well, as far as Ravens, Kyle Vannoy
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  and I was like Mbeka Mbuka, that's not it. Their
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  defensive tackle, his name's escaping me now.
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  Veta? No. For who? The Ravens. Oh, he didn't
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  play last night. And that presence was missed.
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  Oh, for sure. Against a horrible defense already.
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  Sorry, that sounded like it hurt when I said
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  it to you. It's all right. It looked like I put
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  a dagger in him. It is what it is. Let's see.
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  Okay, so with that, let's head to a little bit
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  of our news here real quick. Houston safety C
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  .J. Gardner -Johnson released today. That makes
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  that Stingley Jr. injury, I think, worse. Even
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  tougher. Do we know why for sure? Probably attitude
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  problems. Oh, it was totally attitude. I read
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  a report. He was dissing other teammates. He
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  demanded a trade at some point towards the end.
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  And then he was demanding that they call more
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  blitzes for him. He was upset that they weren't
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  using him frequently enough in the blitz packages.
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  So I guess he was kind of a cancer in the locker
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  room. And they're like, you're not performing
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  at any level where we're going to keep you around
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  and listen to this. Yeah, for sure. But he'll
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  probably get picked up by somebody. Somebody's
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  going to pick him up. I was joking with a coworker
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  that's a big Eagles fan. I'm like, the Eagles
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  will probably pick him back up for the cheaper.
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  But I don't know. I can see him going back there.
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  Would we want him in Minnesota? I mean, we always
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  use secondary help. I mean, if he's that much
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  of an attitude guy, I'm not sure. Well, with
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  that Brian Flores defense, you'd be like, all
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  right, you want a blitz? Go get it. Which is
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  true. You look tired on that fourth blitz, huh?
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  The Vikings got the money. We do have the money,
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  and that is an area that we could definitely
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  use some more depth. And just skill in general.
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  Just straight skill. Agreed. Actually, it's just
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  veteran presence. It just really depends on how
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  toxic it is. But all right, all right. Let's
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  see. Jackson Dart getting the start for the New
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  York Giants in week four versus the Chargers.
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  I think we touched on that last episode. Terrible
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  mistake. I think it's a mistake, too. Well, Russell
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  Wilson had some really dumb plays at the end
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  of that game where I think it almost like they
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  almost had to. I think he lost the team a little
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  bit. Russell Wilson lost the team a little bit,
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  and that's why they almost had to do it. I think
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  you're on the right path there. Yeah, that's
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  just the feel I got from watching the players'
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  body language and stuff and just some of the
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  interviews. It just seems like they were kind
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  of over the Russell Wilson experiment. I'm worried
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  about how that's going to affect Jackson. darts
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  development like if you're putting a fair question
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  if you're putting them in on a bad team on a
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  bad team with an offensive line that's not going
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  to be able to protect you you're going to get
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  banged up how how healthy are you going to be
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  and how productive or efficient are you going
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  to be as a quarterback and your number one running
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  back just went out yeah I'm playing 3 -0 Chargers
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  right now. Yeah. Just a wild time to come in
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  for your first game. Yeah. But, you know, I don't
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  know. I think he might have lost the team or
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  some of his decision -making at the end of the
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  game lost the coaching staff. Very much so. Very
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  much so. And I watched the press conference with
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  Debo at the end, and he was pretty vague on that
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  question. So I'm not surprised that that move's
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  coming either. Did you see the video of Scadaboo?
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  After Russell Wilson threw a touchdown. I don't
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  think it was this week. I think it was last week.
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  No. He came up and, like, tried to dap up Russell
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  Wilson. But he was, like, Skadu came up all energy.
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  Like, he is. He's just who he is. Just crazy
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  energy. And, like, the look on Russell's face
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  was, like, kind of, like, startled at first.
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  You know what I mean? Just like, oh, dude, come
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  on. Lock him. I'm not saying you got to get to
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  his level by any means. But, like. You just didn't
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  seem like he was that excited about it. Be a
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  teammate. I think Jameis and Winston would be
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  a better energy plug. for those Giants. Yeah,
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  I think Cam over Dart would be a better decision.
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  If you've got nothing to lose at this point in
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  time. He's going to throw the rock. And if you're
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  Debo and you're like, well, I'm probably out
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  of a job at the end of the year, regardless of
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  whatever. Is he, though? Or is he going to get
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  that opportunity to start Jackson, which now
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  they're just going to do that. So now that could
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  be premature. But this feels to me like the,
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  at least, I don't know, it's a sign of things
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  to come. I feel like we see this a lot every
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  year or every other year where they draft a quarterback,
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  a bad team drafts a quarterback, they don't start
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  them, and the head coach is kind of on their
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  last strings. Oh, all right, now we'll put in
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  the starting quarterback. Still doesn't do anything,
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  and then they're like, all right, head coach,
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  you're out. Debo is probably the number one hot
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  seat. I mean, Savancy kind of slid off with a
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  win in Green Bay. I mean, I don't think Debo's...
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  stays in new york even if they go eight and eight
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  i agree i i find it weird he's lasted this long
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  i thought he was out i thought he was out after
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  last year for sure and after that then i'm like
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  okay i don't know then like we'll see maybe he's
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  they got a little handshake deal under the table
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  something he's got a life deal Yeah, he's got
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  something we don't know about. Poor Giants fans.
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  Yeah. Something's weird about that. Anyway, the
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  only other thing I have on here that I found
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  wild, not wild, but kind of funny, no tribute
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  video, no tribute video for Micah Parsons when
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  the Packers go play in Dallas. I'm fine with
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  that. I'm fine with that. I know, it was just
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  kind of funny. I mean, it's not like Micah Parsons
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  spent like... 12 years. Right, right. How long
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  was it? Four? Yeah. Nor is he retiring. Maybe
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  that'd be the one opportunity, his last game.
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  Sure, for sure. But not now. Yeah, no. And after
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  kind of how everything left, it was just an awkward
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  test. Yeah, imagine coming into Jerry Jones'
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  office and like, should we do a Micah Parson
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  tribute video right now? Yeah, that's probably
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  the last time you're stepping into the office.
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  Ah, geez. With that, thanks for being here for
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  this episode. Jake. Thanks for having me again.
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  Appreciate it. As our local Ravens fan. Rob,
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  of course, our co -host here. Thank you for all
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  those news. All this great knowledge. You informed
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  me. Good. Good. Hopefully informed you guys.
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