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Broncos Win, Brewers Advance, & More College Playoffs? · Not So Fast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst,
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  Speaker 1: where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest
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  Speaker 1: sports stories of the day. Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst.
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  Speaker 2: Not So Fast, my friends. Welcome to Not So Fast.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Perloff.
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  Speaker 3: He is Paul Pabst.
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  Speaker 2: Got to keep your head on a swivel around here.
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  Speaker 2: There's so many sports going on. What do we got
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  Speaker 2: going on, Paul?
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  Speaker 4: We got Nicole Auerbach of NBC Sports. She covers college football.
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  Speaker 4: She's going to tell us about the 2014 playoff and
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  Speaker 4: the fallout from it as it about to happen. But,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Brewers fans, enjoy your weekend. Hit the fish
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  Speaker 4: fry tonight. Watch the Badgers tomorrow. Watch the Packers on
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  Speaker 4: Sunday night. What a night for the Brewers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, full disclosure.
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  Speaker 2: Yesterday, you refused to admit the Dodgers were done done,
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  Speaker 2: and I said it's over. Was there any point last
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  Speaker 2: night where you thought, okay, maybe we have a series?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so the Brewers beat the Dodgers 6-4. They sweep.
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  Speaker 4: But there was a moment when Otani, who was struggling,
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  Speaker 4: hit that home run in the bottom of the second,
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  Speaker 4: and the place went berserk. It was like they'd been
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  Speaker 4: asleep for three days. And bango, watch Ohtani's celebration. He
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  Speaker 4: never celebrates. That was a frustration celebration. People were reaching
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  Speaker 4: for the sky. For that second, I thought, this is
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  Speaker 4: the Dodgers night, and the Brewers don't come back tonight.
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  Speaker 4: I still think they win the series, but I thought
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  Speaker 4: it was Dodgers night last night.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't think anyone was aware that the Brewers
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  Speaker 2: have Sandy Koufax and.
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  Speaker 3: Nolan Ryan in their bullpen.
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  Speaker 2: Their bullpen is so untouchable in this series that the
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  Speaker 2: Dodgers didn't have a chance once it got in the
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  Speaker 2: late games.
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  Speaker 4: Jake Bowers, again, he's the NLCS MVP. He did it. Hamilton,
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  Speaker 4: everyone did it for them. They got it 4-4, and
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  Speaker 4: once the air went out of the room, I didn't
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  Speaker 4: think the Dodgers could come back.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and also the odds, again, we argued about this.
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  Speaker 2: Only one team has ever come back from 3-0, and
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  Speaker 2: that was an anomaly, the Red Sox. So it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: going to happen for the Dodgers. Before we talk about
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  Speaker 2: the Brewers, the Dodgers' future, I think it looks murky.
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  Speaker 2: I thought they looked old, they looked tired, they looked
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  Speaker 2: emotionally drained is how I would describe them.
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  Speaker 4: It seems like they have some of their higher-end talent
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  Speaker 4: under contract, Kyle Tucker, Betts is a little older. How
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  Speaker 4: old is Betts?
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  Speaker 2: Betts is 34. Freeman's 37. Shohei's 32. It looks like
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  Speaker 2: Will Smith has hit the end. It looks like Max
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  Speaker 2: Muncy has hit the end. Teoscar Hernandez. Kiki Hernandez, our
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  Speaker 2: fall hero, he's probably gone via free agency.
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  Speaker 3: I think they need— you can't.
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  Speaker 2: Rebuild when you have all those contracts on the books,
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  Speaker 2: but don't they feel like they need a jolt of energy?
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  Speaker 4: Also, I think when you lose in this embarrassing fashion,
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  Speaker 4: you have to satisfy the fans with movement. It doesn't
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  Speaker 4: matter what the movement is. You have to move people.
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  Speaker 4: You have to let people go. You have to trade people,
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  Speaker 4: cut people. You have to reset the roster to a
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  Speaker 4: point they've got so much money invested already.
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  Speaker 2: Well, here's the other problem. You have a lockout coming,
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  Speaker 2: and the owners want a salary cap. If there's a
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  Speaker 2: salary cap, the Dodgers are going to be way over it,
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  Speaker 2: whatever it is. Maybe they won't be able to make
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  Speaker 2: those moves. Maybe they discuss on DP's show, is the
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  Speaker 2: dynasty over? Is it a dynasty? I don't even know,
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  Speaker 2: but I think the future is not that bright.
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  Speaker 4: When you spend that level of money, you stay relevant
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  Speaker 4: year to year. If you look at the Yankees, they
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  Speaker 4: always spend money and they almost always make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: They haven't won since 2009. It does feel like The
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  Speaker 4: last five or I think it was six times the
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  Speaker 4: Dodgers won 100 games. They didn't win the title, which
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  Speaker 4: is weird because it means you're doing great during the
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  Speaker 4: regular season. You're just not getting it done.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think I'm eyeballing it. I watch the Brewers,
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  Speaker 2: and they seem to do everything right. They're running around fielding.
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  Speaker 2: They're stealing bases. They're hitting home runs. They feel like
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  Speaker 2: a youthful energy team.
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  Speaker 4: So I look this up. Now, everyone knows the Brewers
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  Speaker 4: don't spend. They traditionally don't spend. They make tough decisions
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  Speaker 4: and let people go. A guy like Jackson Churrio, you
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  Speaker 4: love him. They may not be able to keep him
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  Speaker 4: two years from now. They are a disciplined financial team.
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  Speaker 4: Do you know who has the biggest analytics department in
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  Speaker 4: all of Major League Baseball? Your Milwaukee Brewers. That's where
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  Speaker 4: they spend their money. They look at players, and it's
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  Speaker 4: not money ball, it's analytic ball, but they say, we
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  Speaker 4: have to patchwork a roster together Because we're not giving
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  Speaker 4: anybody 10 years, $ 300 million.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously their big star is Miz. And will
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  Speaker 2: they keep him long-term? But do they even need him?
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  Speaker 2: Because they are a team that says, third time in
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  Speaker 2: the lineup, the starter is gone.
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  Speaker 3: So they're bullpenning their way to the World Series.
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  Speaker 4: And your boy Ashby in the bullpen, a three-inning save
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  Speaker 4: last night. I was like, what is it, 1979? Was
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  Speaker 4: Lee Smith here?
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  Speaker 3: Is this 1983?
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  Speaker 4: A three-inning save?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, the Dodgers just ran into a bit of
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  Speaker 2: a buzzsaw here. To your credit, you did say, watch out,
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  Speaker 2: coming into the playoffs. It feels like Milwaukee is going
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  Speaker 2: to break through at some point. And you know what's
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  Speaker 2: so funny? Because in the AL, the Guardians take the lead.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like the AL is an afterthought. Like they
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  Speaker 2: are just getting set up to get mowed down by
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  Speaker 2: this 100-win Brewers.
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  Speaker 4: Which is dangerous for the Brewers because everyone's going to
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  Speaker 4: be like, well, you should just cruise past these guys.
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  Speaker 4: It reminds me a little bit of when the Red
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  Speaker 4: Sox got by the Yankees in 04. And they faced
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  Speaker 4: the Cardinals, traditionally a good franchise. They swept them. But
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  Speaker 4: if they didn't, the story had no ending.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you have the Brewers going against the 84-win Guardians,
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  Speaker 2: I think everyone's going to assume Milwaukee's going to win that.
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  Speaker 3: But this year, things feel weird.
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  Speaker 4: It's a bit of a reset. I did see a
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  Speaker 4: couple times last night and today that the Brewers upset
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  Speaker 4: the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 2: Is that fair? Yeah, I mean, I think a lot
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  Speaker 2: of us picked the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 4: But that's like a historical upset, but this year the Brewers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but the Dodgers mailed in the entire month of August.
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  Speaker 3: They were not.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe that's part of it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think the Dodgers never recovered from that, but
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  Speaker 2: the Dodgers could have had more wins than the Brewers. Anyway, football,
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  Speaker 2: by the way... Let's transition to the third-hand football.
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  Speaker 4: Tough game last night.
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  Speaker 3: That was not pretty.
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  Speaker 2: No, that was not an aesthetically pleasing game.
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  Speaker 4: The last 30 minutes were fun. The first 45 minutes,
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  Speaker 4: not so fun.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there was a couple minutes in the beginning where
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  Speaker 2: it looks like the Broncos have fixed their offense, and
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  Speaker 2: then it all just fell apart.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Broncos had a good second quarter, two touchdowns.
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  Speaker 4: They win 17-14 in overtime. But if you look at
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  Speaker 4: both sides of this, I don't think I'd feel good
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  Speaker 4: if I were either fan base coming out of this one.
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  Speaker 4: 353 total yards. Sam Darnold attempted 51 passes. That's not
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  Speaker 4: what he should be doing. That's not how he's built.
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  Speaker 4: He's more of a 21 for 28 to touchdown guy
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  Speaker 4: and a run for honor 50 yards. He had two
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  Speaker 4: interceptions in the fourth quarter and overtime. They were completely
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  Speaker 4: on him.
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  Speaker 3: Ooh, I don't know. I'm with Herbie. Herbie was blaming
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  Speaker 3: number 15 there all night.
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  Speaker 4: For not coming back to it.
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  Speaker 2: No, he didn't cut his route off. He didn't run
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  Speaker 2: a sharp route. He just faded.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so it's a little bit some people's fault. But
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  Speaker 4: if you look at it, Darnold only needed two more
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  Speaker 4: first downs.
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  Speaker 2: But you watch that offense. Darnold has to do everything.
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  Speaker 2: He had to throw the ball into tight windows to
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  Speaker 2: get it to JSN because JSN is double-teamed, and he's
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  Speaker 2: the only guy on your team who can catch the ball.
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  Speaker 2: I thought Darnold had a tough assignment, and he was
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  Speaker 2: pressured all night long.
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  Speaker 3: Five sacks.
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  Speaker 2: 17 quarterback hits.
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  Speaker 3: Is that on Darnold? There's no run game to help
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  Speaker 3: him at all.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, but you have to steal a win here in
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  Speaker 4: this division. And in overtime, he had that interception in overtime.
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  Speaker 4: They were cruising down the field to get the field
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  Speaker 4: goal to put this one to bed. An ugly night
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  Speaker 4: and a win. And they gave it back to the Broncos.
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  Speaker 2: I hear you, but Seattle, I think they'll get Jadarian
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  Speaker 2: Price back in two weeks, I believe. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: get Zach Charbonnet back possibly next week. If they can
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  Speaker 2: have a run game, they'll be okay. But Same thing
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  Speaker 2: with the Dodgers. They're tired. And I'll tell you why.
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  Speaker 2: They played into mid-February, and you can see the injuries everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Remember Sam Darnold hurt his glute earlier?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, bad glute.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which he hurt his butt. JSN is limping still
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  Speaker 2: with an ankle injury. Jadarian Price was out. Everybody seems
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  Speaker 2: to be hurt there. But I'll tell you why, if
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  Speaker 2: you're a Bronco fan, you're optimistic.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I was going to ask you about this because
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  Speaker 4: you've been sticking by the Broncos. Ryan Fitzpatrick crushed them yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: He was talking about how bad the Broncos quarterback play is.
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  Speaker 4: It seems like it's open season on Bo Nix.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is open season.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get into Nix for a second. But if you're
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  Speaker 2: down on the Broncos, you're making a mistake.
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  Speaker 5: Really?
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  Speaker 2: They're 4-2. They have played. I'm looking at the Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl odds. Out of the top seven teams in Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl odds, they played five of them. And they're 4-2.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so they're not being judged fairly.
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  Speaker 3: They lost to the Niners, who are the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 3: favorite right now.
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  Speaker 2: They lost to the Chiefs, who are fifth in odds.
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  Speaker 2: They beat the Jags. They beat the Seahawks, who are
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  Speaker 2: up there. And they beat the Rams, who are number
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  Speaker 2: two in odds. They have played the hardest schedule by
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  Speaker 2: a mile, and their two losses are on the road.
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  Speaker 2: So even if they have no offense, their defense is
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  Speaker 2: good enough to get them the playoff.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, you're starting to actually convince me here a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: You're saying 4-2 with that schedule, no matter how ugly
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  Speaker 4: it was, is a great 4-2.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, their defense is legit. Now let's get
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  Speaker 2: into Bo Nix. And you mentioned Ryan Fitzpatrick. After the game,
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Fitzpatrick had some really ugly things to say about
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  Speaker 2: the Broncos quarterback.
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  Speaker 6: It was really frustrating to watch. And part of it
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  Speaker 6: for me is Bo Nix is not playing competitively. It's
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  Speaker 6: almost disrespectful to the quarterback position how he's playing football.
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 7: What do you mean when you see?
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  Speaker 4: How is he playing?
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  Speaker 6: He has no trust from his coach. He calls a
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  Speaker 6: screenplay on third and eight. Just run up and let
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  Speaker 6: the clock keep going. What does he do? He throws
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  Speaker 6: it away. Seattle gets the ball. They have a timeout.
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  Speaker 6: And then in overtime, he's got two chances to be competitive.
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  Speaker 6: The last one being a designed run for him. to run,
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  Speaker 6: make somebody miss, and get a first down for your
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  Speaker 6: football team.
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  Speaker 4: That was quite saucy by Ryan Fitzpatrick, but I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to get to the meat of that. He said his
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  Speaker 4: coach doesn't trust him and is calling plays to protect him.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't seem like the same guy who at the
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  Speaker 4: end of the season was this clutch killer in the
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  Speaker 4: fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but you see the production. It's just
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  Speaker 2: not there. He can't throw intermediate passes. They don't try
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  Speaker 2: long passes.
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  Speaker 4: That's not a good play there. You shouldn't do that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Ryan Fitzpatrick really dug into that one play where
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  Speaker 2: it looked like he had the first down with his legs,
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  Speaker 2: and for some reason, Bo Nix just didn't get it.
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  Speaker 3: Last year, he made all those first downs. This year,
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  Speaker 3: it's not happening.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a stat that guys don't run out
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  Speaker 4: of bounds going past the line of scrimmage. Bo Nix
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  Speaker 4: might be gun-shy. You said yesterday he's got to run.
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  Speaker 4: I think he ran twice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like a game where someone's got to win.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll tell you right now, Denver is not out
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  Speaker 2: of the mix. Their defense is amazing.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm with you a little bit. If they get
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  Speaker 4: healthy on defense and a little bit of offense, I
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  Speaker 4: still don't understand the Jalen Waddell usage situation. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think I ever will. How about some helmet stickers for
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  Speaker 4: last night? Not-so-fast helmet stickers. You affix this to your helmet.
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  Speaker 4: And you look cool around practice. Here we go, Pearl.
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  Speaker 4: You're up first.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to say on that Broncos defense we're talking about,
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  Speaker 2: Nick Benito was awesome.
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  Speaker 3: He only got half a sack last night.
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  Speaker 2: But part of the reason that they got five sacks
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  Speaker 2: overall is because the defense had to rotate towards him
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  Speaker 2: because he was killing his guy. He's the ultimate spin
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  Speaker 2: move guy. He did three in a row once. I
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  Speaker 2: love what he's doing. He was a defensive player of
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  Speaker 2: the year candidate last year. He started off slow, but
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  Speaker 2: now he looks healthy and he's back.
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  Speaker 4: And you and I don't love sacks. We like hurries.
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  Speaker 4: We're big hurry guys and pressure guys.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. We're Sacks.
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  Speaker 4: Anyone can get sacks. Hurries are where the money's made.
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  Speaker 2: He looks kind of small and fast.
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  Speaker 3: I like that.
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  Speaker 4: He's number 15, right? He doesn't look as big because
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  Speaker 4: he's got a quarterback number. It makes him look thinner.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think he's the heart and soul of
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  Speaker 2: what could be. Last year, the Seahawks got defense all
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  Speaker 2: the way to the Super Bowl. I think the Broncos'
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  Speaker 2: defense is in that kind of conversation. They could be
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  Speaker 2: good enough to take Denver into the playoffs and maybe farther.
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  Speaker 4: My helmet sticker is Jaquan McMillan, the defensive back, the
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  Speaker 4: overtime pick of Sam Darnold. This was a beautiful play
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  Speaker 4: by him. This basically saved the game. The Seattle Seahawks
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  Speaker 4: are cruising down the field. They're going to get it.
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  Speaker 4: Not so fast. I'm going to get it to my
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  Speaker 4: kicker in these awesome uniforms. So good for him.
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  Speaker 3: Good pick.
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  Speaker 4: Great pick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I thought you blamed Arnold on that pick.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, but it's got to be a team effort.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it was a really nice play. Towards the end,
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  Speaker 2: it felt like a mercy kill because neither team really
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  Speaker 2: deserved a win.
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  Speaker 4: But the problem is when those games are so tight,
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  Speaker 4: even though they're ugly, you've got to stay up for
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  Speaker 4: the finish. You can't go to bed. You don't want
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  Speaker 4: to be the guy who missed that.
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  Speaker 2: And then I wanted to go to bed, and then
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Fitzpatrick comes out on fire killing Bo Nix.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to listen to that.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Now it's time for the little bit premature midday pick-me-up, Pearl.
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  Speaker 4: Here we go. Midday pick-me-up time. You're going to like
• 11:21
  Speaker 4: this one. Oh, A-L-C-S. The afternoon game.
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  Speaker 2: Bingo.
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  Speaker 4: Two-run homer. Cleveland takes the lead. Never look back. Love
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  Speaker 4: the uniforms. Nice look.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Paul.
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  Speaker 3: It looks bright and sunny.
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  Speaker 2: And they had to move the game for weather, and
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the weekend looks like a weather disaster.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm checking my Doppler, and there was no rain
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: during game time later that day. But they had to
• 11:47
  Speaker 4: make the decision early. A lot of people, the old school,
• 11:50
  Speaker 4: the old heads, loved afternoon playoff baseball.
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  Speaker 2: No, it felt like I was a kid again. It
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  Speaker 2: was super fun, but it is going to be a mess. Apparently,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to get worse today and tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: It's so funny.
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  Speaker 2: The ALCS, I'm sorry, feels like an afterthought because of
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  Speaker 2: these weather changes. You're not quite sure where it is.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously, you don't have the big stars. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up next, I'll go through the 2024 quarterback class
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: and try to make sense of it. And we'll get
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  Speaker 2: more into the 24-team playoff in college football. That's next.
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  Speaker 2: Not so fast.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, those tight games.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You want to turn it off, but then you're like, oh, God.
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  Speaker 4: You need a nice blowout.
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  Speaker 2: Also, the NFL games are chaos right now because of
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  Speaker 2: the kickoff.
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  Speaker 4: You need a blowout if you want to go to bed.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Not So Fast, Perloff and Paps. All right,
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: I'm going to start off warm takes on this football Friday.
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: It looks like we're going to have Caleb Williams for
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears and Michael Penix for the Atlanta Falcons
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: on Sunday. Now, this makes me think of the 2024
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: class of quarterbacks, which was supposed to be one of
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: the greats of all time. It tied a record with 1983,
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: of course, the great quarterback class. for most QBs taken
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: in the first round at six. And it looked like
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: it was going to be one of the best classes ever.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: As it turns out, it may not be the best,
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: but it's definitely the most confusing. The first breakout star
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: was Washington's Jaden Daniels, 2024 Rookie of the Year. He
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: just can't stay healthy, and he has trouble reading clocks apparently,
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: but that's beside the point. The next breakout star, Drake May.
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: He came in second in MVP voting, went to the
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Then he came out this season and forgot
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: how to play the sport. Meanwhile, Bo Nix was captain
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: comeback last year and probably would have taken the Broncos
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl if he didn't get hurt the
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: round before. But he's been up and down in 2026.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: Then there's number one overall pick Caleb Williams. He looks
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: great with coach Ben Johnson.
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: Bears scored 59 points in week one. Then what happens?
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: He hurts his hamstring in week two. Same with Michael Penix.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: He comes back from injury and makes the Falcons look
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: extremely dangerous on offense.
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: Then he gets nicked up.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, there's only one quarterback
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: from the class of 24 who's playing for a division-leading team,
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: and that, of course, is the Giants' J.J.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: McCarthy.
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: All right, he had a few snaps. He might not
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: be starting, but he's out there. If anything, this class
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: proves that we don't know anything about these quarterbacks coming
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: into the draft, and sometimes two or three years after
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: the draft, we're not so sure. Hopefully, we'll find out
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: some good things this weekend when Williams plays Pennix. Yeah,
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: what do you think there, Paul?
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: I love the presentation of all that.
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Riley, the editor, for pulling that off.
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: Very sparkly, very fun.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, is it possible that we're.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: In mid-January and the only guy alive from the 24
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: class is Jackson Dart?
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: It is funny because they've all had their moment in
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: the sun. Two years ago, Jaden Daniels was the future
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: of the sport, and if you did the redraft, it's
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels. Eleven months ago, it's Caleb Williams. Then at
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: one point, oh, look at Bo Nix. How about Bo Nix?
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: Michael Penix was off the radar for a couple years,
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: and now it's like, Michael Penix may have a nice
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: career ahead of him. It just goes day to day.
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: J.J.
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: McCarthy is as far off the radar as you can get,
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: but he has a chance. It's wild how it rotates.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: It's funny to me, too.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: We used to know after one or two years how
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: a quarterback's NFL future is going to be. Once in
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: a while, a Carson Wentz goes off the rails, but
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: we have no idea with these guys.
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: We really don't know. I don't even know if Caleb
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: Williams is going to be a star.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: It does feel like Williams, when healthy, is a kind
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: of quarterback who can lead you back.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: Based on what?
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't know you didn't watch the 2025 season.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: How many games did they pull out of the year?
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Bo Nix did the same thing. Are you sure that
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is going to be the star that you
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: think he is?
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: Star?
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't think he's ever going to throw
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: for 5,000 yards. I don't think they ever run that
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: kind of offense. But he pulled off some miracles in
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: games last year. I'm trying not to be a bearish guy.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: So did Bo Nix. Bo Nix pulled off even more
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: than he did. And he stinks right now.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: He stinks right now. Caleb Williams is based off injury.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: He hasn't had stinking games yet. Since he came back
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: this year, the first game, 59 points. It wasn't all
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: on him.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: He didn't do anything.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: I was about to say that. He wasn't 59 points
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: because of Caleb Williams. And then he had the stinker
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: in the rain. But I would say, though, he's earned
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: enough credibility to be where you believe in him. You
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: can't picture him being a bust. Again, Jayden Daniels, the
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: only reason he is maybe entering some type of bust
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: zone is because of injury. But it doesn't feel like
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: he's getting his magic back.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. Guys like Bo Nix did not develop.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: He should have taken a jump this year. He did
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: not do it. Jaden Daniels has not developed since his
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: rookie year. So I think that we're used to quarterbacks
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: going on a trajectory up, and it's been up and
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: down for some reason. Drake May looked like he was
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: taking a major step back.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: All right. We're going to wait until the offseason, but
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: we will in February, after the Super Bowl, redraft the
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: 2024 draft.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Then we'll see.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Then we'll see. Then we'll see.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: We have a 2024 team playoff coming. It's inevitable. It's
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: just dotting the I's and putting the ink together. Even
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: if the fans don't want it, it's coming. I've seen
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: some polls where about 75% of college football or sports
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: fans do not want a 2024 team playoff. They don't
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: care what you think because they know you're going to
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: watch no matter what. It's like having a restaurant in
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: a small town and you change the menu. We only
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: have one restaurant in this town. Where else are you
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: going to eat? The good part is The good part
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: is there will be more relevant football games played in December.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: The Pool and Weed Eater Bowl, the Bad Boy Gasparilla Bowl.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, why are you calling those bowls out?
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: No offense. I love those bowls. But there will be
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: more relevant games played in December. Now, the negative part
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: is those first-round playoff games, there will be teams in
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: those games who have no business battling for a national title.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Like Iowa last year was 8-4. They would have made
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: the playoffs. They were not going to win a national title.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: There's teams like that. So if you want to comp it,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: it's really like the 64-team playoff in college basketball, and
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: that's their model. 24 teams, yeah. Are there teams that
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: are being feel-good stories early in the tournament that have
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: no chance of doing it? Yes, just like the 64-team
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: playoff in college basketball, which was a goldmine, which is
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: a billion-dollar goldmine, the 64-team tournament. March Madness, it worked.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: They will risk de-emphasizing the regular season to over-emphasize the playoffs,
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: and that's what's happening. It's going to happen in 2027.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: So here's the issue, though. The big question is scheduling.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Will teams on their own volition schedule up or schedule down?
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: If you're a good team, if you're Georgia, your first
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: four games of the season, are you going to schedule
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Wofford or are you going to schedule Texas? Are you
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: going to schedule Oregon? I'm not sure because I can
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: go play Wofford and get an easy 70-3 win and
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: just pile up wins and ensure myself a home playoff game.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: If I play Texas, if I play Notre Dame, now
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: I'm not doing so. Hopefully they schedule up.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: We'll see. You know, I kind of like it from
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: competitive reasons. Because last year, Notre Dame did not get in.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: They were 13th, presumably. they easily could have gotten to
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the title game. They could have won the national title.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: We do not know.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: In the NIL era and with inbound scheduling, I don't
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: think we know who the top teams are. I looked
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: at last year's 12-team playoff, and there were at least
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: seven or eight teams who were not as good as
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: some of the teams that.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Were out there. That's fair.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: So I just think because people play no one now,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: you have no idea who the 12 teams are.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: I think it's kind of a crapshoot.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: And the fact that Notre Dame could have won it
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: all last year and didn't make the playoff, Competitively, okay,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: 24 seems a little rich because your Iowa really got
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: to me.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't want to see Iowa.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: And we're pro-Iowa, but last year Iowa wasn't winning the
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: national title.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've got to get Notre Dame in. Two
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: years ago, I thought Miami with Cam Ward could have
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: been interesting. So you could probably go 16 might be
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: better competitively.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: But again, when they looked at those models of 16
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: versus 24, they said this much money with 16. this
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: much money with 24. If we're going to break open
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: the piggy bank, let's go all the way to 24.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: No, but I do think whenever you expand playoffs, you
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: take away from regular season, as you said. And college
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: basketball's regular season is somewhat irrelevant.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Like Indiana-Ohio State this weekend will always be a very
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: good game, but it won't be detrimental to the losing team.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: And Alabama-Georgia. You're right.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: So it's a give and take. Okay, for my next one,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I'm going to the NFL. Jaden Daniels spoke to the
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: press yesterday and put the blame for the late-game collapse
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: against the Giants on himself. He said he should have
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: done a better job, which is the right thing to say.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Dan Quinn, by the way, probably should have said a
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: little more of that, too. I think everybody needs to
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: take responsibility in Washington. My question is, what happens to
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: this team moving forward? A lot of analysts compared it
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: to the 2024 Chicago Bears. Huh. They lost on a
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Hail Mary to Jaden Daniels and Washington and went on
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: to lose the next 10 games. They were 4-2, and
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: they ended up with five wins on the season, completely collapsed.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I think everyone expects Washington to collapse after this. Felt
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: like the miracle of the Meadowlands for the Giants in 1978,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: a franchise-changing mistake. It was one of the worst all-time
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: mistakes in the history of the NFL. I think we're
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: going to remember the end of that game. So how
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: do they respond? Now, they don't play until Monday night.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: They're at San Francisco. Oh, no. And that looks bad.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: But I got to tell you, you know what? It's
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: only seven half points spread. For example, the Rams are
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: two touchdown favorites over the Cardinals. There is a chance
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: that Jaden Daniels and the commanders actually do use this
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: as motivation. I would not totally rule them out. I
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: don't think they're going to collapse like the Bears because
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: they have some talent. And I think Jaden Daniels is
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: thoroughly embarrassed by this. And I think Dan Quinn's embarrassed.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I think everyone's embarrassed. I actually think they might put
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: out a good effort. They still might get killed by
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: San Francisco because that's a really good team. But I
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: think that Washington does not totally fold the tents. I
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: don't think they're a great team, but I'm going to
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: say seven or eight wins on the season.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Monday night, national TV, this is always a judgment game.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: If they lay an egg and everyone has to talk
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: about it the next day, it furthers that topic. It's like, yep,
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: they are who we thought they were. Dennis Green, this
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: day in history.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: I would say it's a good point because if this collapses,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Dan Quinn gets fired, the bigger picture is financially and contract-wise,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: what do they do with Jay Daniels? This is post-year three.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: This is the year franchise quarterbacks are supposed to get
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: their big deal like Joe Burrow did, like Patrick Mahomes did.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: But they will have to push that back here. They'll
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: kick the can like C.J. Stroud.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it gets back to that 24 class.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: We just don't know how these guys are developing. But
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Dan Quinn is probably coaching for his job as well.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: So if you're going to bring in a new coach,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: it's a new coach like Jaden Daniels. Are you bringing
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: in a new GM? There's a lot to be determined.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: All right, one more warm take for me. And this
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: is just a quickie because this is going back to
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: the Brewers. If I'm the Brewers and I'm the Brewers fans,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: I don't want a week off. I don't want rest.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: If I'm a Brewers player, I wish we could run
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: it back tonight. You could play whoever's in the AL.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: I know you hear the analysts say, you know, it
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: would be great for the Brewers' bullpen if they had
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: seven days off. When you have momentum like this, I
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: don't think a baseball player would want the day off.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: In the regular season, you're jonesing for a day off.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Now you have momentum. So now all their bullpen and
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: now the Miz has to sit how many days? 13
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: days since he last pitched, last started? I think that's
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: terrible for a starting pitcher. And I think what's going
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: to happen here is when the Brewers get back, I
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: think they're going to win the World Series. I believe
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: they're going to win the World Series. But my guess
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: is they lose game one to whoever they play in
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: game one. And then they win the next four in
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: a row. Because if I'm the Brewers again, you have
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: all this momentum. Let's keep playing. Let's just keep going.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: It's not like Thelma and Louise. Let's keep going over
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: the cliff. Let's keep going in a more positive way.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: So do you do one of those simulated games that
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of teams are starting to do now where
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: you pretend that you're playing?
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would do some type of simulated games to
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: do something. But the other thing is, if I'm a
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Brewers fan... I got my feet up this weekend. I'm
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: watching some football. But then the churning in the stomach
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: starts again late next week.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I actually worry about this a little bit.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: If it's the Guardians who are leading the ALCS right now,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I just think 99% of people are going to pick
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: the Brewers, and that has to make you scared.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: You're right, like stomach churning.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: But even nationally, I don't want to pick the Brewers
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: because no one on earth is going to give Cleveland
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: a chance.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Maybe Tampa.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: It's going too well. All right, coming up after the break.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Nicole Auerbach of NBC Sports with us to talk about
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: the 2014 playoff and the huge college football weekend. Stick around.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Pass and pearl off. Not so fast. Yeah, I want
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: to play tomorrow on the Brewers. Let's play somebody. Let's
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: keep going. You like the Thelma and Louise reference?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: But more positive than driving off the cliff.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Paul Paps. Paul, it's a really big college football weekend.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: So many interesting matchups. It's a great time to talk
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: to Nicole Auerbach, of course, NBC Sports Big Ten Insider
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: and host of the Rushing the Field podcast with our
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: buddy Joshua Perry.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Nicole, how are you doing?
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: Doing great. Can't wait for these games either.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you've covered Indiana pretty closely this year. Why
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: does it feel like Ohio State is the team to
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: beat even though they're playing the national champions?
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: It always felt like Ohio State's the team to beat.
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: So many of the narratives coming into this game feel
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: really similar to the way that they did when Indiana
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: played Ohio State in the Big Ten title game last year,
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: where it's like, okay, Indiana's a great story. They look
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: pretty good. They look like maybe they got some weaknesses.
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: Now let's see them against an elite roster. Let's see
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: them against Jeremiah Smith. And then they, of course, beat
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: them last year and they go on and they beat
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: a bunch of other good teams and win a national title.
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: So it feels sort of similar.
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: Just with the questions with the quarterback this year, the
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: defense that's gotten gashed a couple of times where they're
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: going to have to go through a team like Ohio
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: State to really gain that respect, be considered a national
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: title contender again. Or otherwise, like maybe it's just, you know,
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: a team that's going to make the playoff, but not
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: necessarily be there late January.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: You know, we've been talking about this on Not So Fast.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: We have this theory that like. Indiana, they still have
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: to fight their historical perception. And it's like, this was
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: a great story. It was like a guy landing on
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: the moon. He's not going to go back to the moon.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: And so Indiana has to beat Ohio State. What do
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: you think of Josh Hoover this season? Is he a
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: legit Heisman candidate?
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: Well, first of all, I completely agree. It felt that
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: way after the first year when they made it to
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: the playoff and everyone just said, oh, it's because they
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: had a friendly schedule. And then last year they beat everybody.
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: They win it all.
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: And then this year everyone's like, well, it was maybe
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: it was just Fernando and maybe it was just these
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: JMU transfers. So I think that, you know, Josh Hoover
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: has done a really good job. The big questions for
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: him coming into the year were about turnovers and that,
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: you know, hey, he's got this potential, but he also
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: makes a lot of mistakes. TCU hasn't thrown an interception yet.
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: We typically watch quarterbacks get better, get more comfortable in
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: this system as the year goes on.
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: So, no, he's not Fernando Mendoza. He's not as big.
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: Uh, he's different kind of runner, but he's got great
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: weapons in the past game. They, the run game has
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: had some, some, uh, injuries and some health issues, but it,
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: you know, he's going to have that at his disposal
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: as well. So this will be a big test for
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: him against Matt Patricia's defense. Um, and we'll learn a lot,
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: but it's okay that he's not Fernando Mendoza. He's still
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: been pretty good. And he typically gets better. The more
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: you are in this offense.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, there's another former James Madison coach out there, of course.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Bob Chesney is the hot coach, I would say. Saturday night, UCLA, Wisconsin.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think we had any idea that this would
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: be such an important matchup, Nicole. But how seriously should
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: we take UCLA as a potential contender?
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: I think we should take them very seriously.
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: We saw what they did to Oregon. We were just
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: talking about these teams. Like, hey, are you a great story?
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: Are you the type of team that can beat a
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: roster that's a lot more talented than you? That's exactly
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: what UCLA did with Oregon. And so you look at
• 26:57
  Speaker 8: their schedule, their potential path to the college football.
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: Playoff, it's there for them. Bob Chesney is a great coach.
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: You know, I talked to the athletic director at JMU
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: that hired Cignetti and Chesney back-to-back, and he walked me
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: through the different similarities, obviously the different personalities. But the
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: way that they won at low levels and things that
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: were replicable that we're now seeing at places like UCLA.
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: I was there in August for preseason camp and the
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: vibes were so good there. You know, they knew what
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: they had in Wayne Knight because they brought him with them.
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: Of course, Nico Yamaliaba is injured and out for the
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: foreseeable future.
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: So that has an impact on them.
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: But with such a productive, prolific, creative run game, that
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: should still be there.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: All right, a couple of things. First of all, you
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: nailed the pronunciation, the UCLA quarterback. Andrew and I aren't
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: even going to try it. Secondly, the AD at James
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Madison should get a raise, and I would like to
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: work for him because he makes people into millionaires. All right,
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: next up, Notre Dame-BYU. This feels like such an obvious
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: trap game that it's not a trap game, but Notre
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Dame needs a challenge. What do you think of this
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Notre Dame game, and do you think Notre Dame fans
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: should be a bit nervous about BYU?
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: I think you can be helpfully nervous. I mean, it's
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: a really tough place to play. It's one of the
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: great backdrops for college football. I'm really excited that it'll
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: have game day and all the pomp and circumstance. And
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: this is a really good physical defense. We're used to
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: seeing that from BYU. But Notre Dame's schedule allowed it
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: to really ramp up.
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: And even this game, it allows.
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: Them to ramp up then to Miami in a couple
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: of weeks. So they've been able to work out a
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: lot of the kinks. They have definitely played teams that
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: have that physicality at the line of scrimmage, like the
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: first half against Wisconsin, even Michigan State early in that
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: game as well. So I think they've seen that and
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: they have developed and figured out the run game. That
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: was the biggest question coming into the year after you
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: lose two first round running backs. And Jonas Walton has
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: really emerged. Two freshmen these last two games. Get him
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: the ball early and often. He's got that burst, that
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: ability like a Jeremiah Love to break out those big runs.
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: So that was a big question for me. Outside of that,
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: I trust CJ Carr to command and control this offense.
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: I trust Notre Dame's defense. I don't trust BYU's offense
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: to be explosive enough, to be reliable enough against elite
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: defenses because that's been their deficiency these last couple of years.
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: Without their best running back, I just don't see it.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: So, Nicole, I saw that you wrote about the Texas Longhorns,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: and you said, we are who they thought we are.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Close enough.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: You saw this.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Kind of loss to Oklahoma possibly coming because you dug
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: into the offense in numbers.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: So what's wrong with the Longhorns?
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: Well, it's not just Arch Manning.
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: I mean, he certainly has not been terrific in those games.
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: those interceptions in the fourth quarter cost him against Oklahoma
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: he's been pretty good he's not been one of the
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: best quarterbacks in the country since he took over as
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: the starting quarterback at Texas But it's really the offense.
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: And I think that's why.
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: Steve Sarkisian's feeling the heat and getting questions about whether
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: or not he should still be the play caller. Because
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: this is an offense that just gets cold and goes
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: silent for stretches of the game. And they're leading the
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: SEC in three and out rate. And that matches exactly
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: what it's like to watch this team. You'll see a
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: great player, a great drive. And then nothing for a while.
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: And you're just wondering why it's so disjointed and why
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: with so much talent on the offensive side of the ball,
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: it doesn't click better.
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: It's the sequencing. It's the play calling. It's all of that.
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: And so until that gets fixed, until we see this
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: offense fully elevate, I'm just not sure that this is
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: a team that we're going to see deep into the postseason.
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: The talent's there. On paper, they should be.
• 30:32
  Speaker 8: But I really think it's like the entire offense needs
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: a reboot.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: All right, Nicole, we are on the cusp of a
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: 24-team playoff. I want you to fast forward for the
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: college football fan. When this happens, what will the landscape
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: of college football look like, feel like when it does happen?
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: I mean, I think the biggest impact will be on
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: which games feel the most pressing in the course of
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: the season, because that's the biggest difference from four to 12.
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: It was, you know, you felt like you had to
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: be perfect. And if you dropped one game, you had
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: to like make up for it in the 14 era,
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: but really people were trying to be perfect. In a
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: 2014 playoff, it's going to be down the line a
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: little bit, right? It's going to be about an Iowa-Nebraska
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: game with teams that have a couple of losses. They're
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: going to be the ones playing around that cut line,
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: for example, if that's what we're going to be looking at.
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: You know, you're still going to have people jockeying for
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: seating for buys and things like that. But really, like
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: the games that are make or break that we're going
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: to be talking about, about the so-called bubble, they're just
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: going to be a little bit lower into the rankings
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: and into the conferences, because that's a big part of
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: why we're headed to the 2014 playoff. These conferences are huge.
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: They need more spot for their teams to have more.
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: to have a successful season. If everyone is living in
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: a world that's play off our buck. So basically just
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: the meaningful games will go a little bit further down
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: and we'll all have a similar reaction when we're watching
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: an Alabama Georgia game, just like we did this past week.
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: Where you're like, okay, both teams are probably in the playoffs.
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: Like it still matters to win.
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: But, you know, it's not as cutthroat or, you know,
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: you've got to be perfect the way that college football
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: was for most of our lives. And that part will
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: follow and end up with more games that feel that
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: way where you're like, I don't know.
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: If the stakes are as great as they used to be.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think insiders are going to be awfully
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: busy deep into January, including you.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Nicole, thank you so much for the time.
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: Anytime, guys. Enjoy the games.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: That was great to preview the weekend. But the 2014 playoff,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: the one thing, I knew it was inevitable. It's going
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: to happen. It's happening. There's too much money to be
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: left on the table by not doing it. The one thing,
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: when they do, as we get to a 2014 playoff,
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: I need one thing, a central scheduling office for all
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: of college football. More so than ever, you're going to
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: need to build weekends. Like the NFL builds weekends, you're
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: going to need a master scheduling office to work with colleges,
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: and the networks to build more great matchups.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Well, now I think teams will be unafraid to schedule
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: anybody because you get two or three losses.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: I think this is going to open up the schedule.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: It should. It should have teams go more out-of-conference big boys.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: You can make more money on ticket sales, TV sales.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: But then if you're a team like, let's say you're
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: North Carolina, do you want to schedule a couple cupcakes
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: to get yourself four wins before you get in the schedule?
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: And can we pull this off? Or do you schedule harder?
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know what effect it will have.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, it's going to be a
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: wild scene, but it's going to work because everything they're
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: doing in college football is absolutely working. Obviously, you and
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: I are watching.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: All right, coming up next, we're going to do the
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: clip joint.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Got a great one from the Dan Patrick show on
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: this coming weekend in the NFL.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: It's a lot of fun.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: That's next. Not so fast. Wow.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: 24 teams.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Let's go. Yeah.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Hoosiers home game. We got to go to a Hoosiers
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: home game. Put that on the list.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Ah, yeah.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Bloomington's killing it.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Every week on Not So Fast, we do the Pub
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: and Grub of the Week.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: This week, the big game, Ohio State and Indiana.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Paul, you're a Midwestern guy. What do you got?
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: Bloomington, Indiana. Been there a bunch. We got a lot
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: of recommendations. I have a few of my own. Everyone
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: knows Nick's English Hut. When you're there, get the Stromboli Pearl.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: You're a big Stromboli guy.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Back in the day. I love Stromboli.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: Upstairs Pub. Check that out before and during and after
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: the game. Crazy Horse, I'm told, has a huge beer selection.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Here's the bonus tip from Not So Fast. Pork tenderloin
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: sandwiches in Central Indiana are They're huge. They're like manhole covers.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: They're gigantic. There's a place down 446 south of town,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: The Cabin. Go to The Cabin to get the best
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: pork tenderloin sandwiches.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: It's debatable.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: Find out.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Can't wait. Help me grab the week.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Brighter future this season, Seattle or Denver? I think it's Denver, honestly.
• 34:42
  Speaker 9: As much as I love Seattle's defense, I think the
• 34:44
  Speaker 9: ceiling on Denver's offense is higher. Seattle's offense, I think
• 34:48
  Speaker 9: the truth about Sam Darnold is this is kind of
• 34:51
  Speaker 9: what he was for much of last year, but they
• 34:55
  Speaker 9: were opportune in the times that they played. He showed
• 34:58
  Speaker 9: up big in important moments once or twice throughout the
• 35:00
  Speaker 9: course of the season, but for most of last season,
• 35:02
  Speaker 9: he was a similar player. I think it's harder for
• 35:05
  Speaker 9: me to imagine them doing that again than it is
• 35:07
  Speaker 9: for me to imagine the Broncos figuring it out, especially
• 35:10
  Speaker 9: given that they were down Sertan, Hufanga, and Riley Moss
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: didn't even play for much of that game.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Back on Not So Fast, Pabst and Perloff. This is
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: the clip joint. That's Dominic Foxworth agreeing with you that
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: Denver has more coming up than the Seahawks do.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. Denver went through the hard part of their schedule.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Now it gets way easier the rest of the way.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Let me devil's advocate. The Seahawks never get any coverage,
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: even after winning the Super Bowl, never get any love.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Sam Darnold is always fighting for relevancy even after winning
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, and he was a big part of it.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: Is there any chance he has a couple bad games,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: they get Jadarian Price back, the defense steps up, Because
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: they were great last year. They weren't good. They were great.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Well, I think they're worn out. I think they're injury.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, their bad decision came in March. They never
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: should have let Kenneth Walker go back, go in the
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: free agency to Kansas City. And they paid Rashid Shahid,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: who is great, and then he has a drop and
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: a fumble. So you never know. That was really where
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I think they cost themselves. They don't have a run game,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: and I don't trust Jadarian Price. I don't trust Zach
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Charbonnet and Kenneth Walker. I don't even know if we
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: want to stay there. But whatever money he wanted... I
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: think they.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Should have paid up. I think that's where the problem started.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: All right, let's stick with the injury topic. And Caleb
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Williams had the hamstring injury about three or four weeks ago,
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: and he finally talked to the press, the local press
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: in Chicago, and here's how that went.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: Caleb, what would you say was the injury?
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: What would you tell us was the injury? It was
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: a hamstring tear and a pretty serious one.
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: Did they give you a grade?
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a grade, but I wouldn't say it's
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: deserved to be put out there after all the false ones, so.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Why keep the details of the injury secret? Because it's
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: not deserving.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 36:48
  Speaker 9: Just not deserving.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Next question. You take exception to get it wrong. It doesn't.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Next question.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: Next question.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Remember when I sprained my knee skiing?
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, of course.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: So my doctor said a sprain is just a small tear.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: So maybe he's cementing his way into this. He obviously
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: didn't tear through the hamstring in half, but I think
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: he was awfully defensive there, Paul.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: What do you have to say for your guy here?
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so I think there's some layers to this.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: So when he gets hurt, everyone saw he's on the ground,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: he's rolling, he's screaming. He gets on the cart, and
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: they say you're not supposed to use the cart unless
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: you really need it. He's got the towel over his head.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Within hours, maybe the next morning, it came out that
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: he'd be week to week with a hamstring strain. I
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: think the average fan out there, the average football fan,
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: This thing, strain is no big deal. Tear is like,
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: oh my gosh. While they might be similar, that's where
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: all the criticism came from.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Well, I think when you hear tear, you mean tearing
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: off the bone or tearing in half.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: That is definitely not what happened.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: So I think Caleb Williams got a little defensive here,
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: but this has probably been building up for four weeks
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: in that you're going to make fun of me for
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: getting upset and getting all choked up when I had
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: a hamstring tear. Maybe for him, this was a really
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: bad injury. I don't think he should have gone this
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: way at the press conference. He should have blown it off.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: But he was clearly bothered by it.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Can I make a confession?
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I heard this on the Dan Patrick show today, but
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I didn't see the video until now. I'm going to
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: defend Caleb. He wasn't making that big a deal about it.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: He was nonchalant, but he kept going back and back.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: He could have easily said... It's a grade three hamstring strain,
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: and because of that, it's a tear. He could have
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: gave details. He's allowed to give details about his self
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: and his health.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but do we put too much of a microscope
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: on Caleb Williams sometimes? I think he gets a lot
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: of criticism.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Well, he's polarizing.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: People either like him or are sick of fans for him,
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: or they think he's a crybaby or soft. or Mama's Boy,
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: and all the things that were said of him going
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: to USC. There doesn't seem to be a lot of
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: middle ground.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I think they really need him back. You've been pointing
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: out Tyson Bajan keeps turning the ball over.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: That is not what you want.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: There are other better quarterbacks clearly in the league. I
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: don't think there's a team that suffers more than without
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: him because he keeps you in games. He's not the
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: best quarterback in the first three quarters, definitely not. But
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter, he can pull things out and
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: make an average defense that the Bears have look pretty decent.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Okay, we also had John Marossi on to talk
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: baseball today. with Dan, and he talked about the future
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: of Otani and the possibilities of Otani pitching.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: The honest truth, Dan, is that no one had done
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: what Otani had done for as long as he had
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: done it. He did it longer than the Bambino had
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: done it. Let's be honest about that. He was doing
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: things no one's ever done. And what we can certainly
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: say is that no one entering his mid-30s has ever
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: done what Shohei is still trying to do.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: John Marossi from MLB Network is saying that there should
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: be a conversation with Otani's future as a hitter and
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: a pitcher. Look, Otani was 8-2 this year. That's nice.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: He won a few games last year. We mentioned yesterday
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: on the show when I gave my warm take that
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: she'd give up pitching. I don't think Otani's going to.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: He believes himself at a level that most people don't.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: He thinks of himself different than the average ball player.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: I don't really think that the Dodgers can contractually tell
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: him to stop pitching. Now, you could take him out
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: of the lineup, but I don't think that's going to
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: go well. Who knows if there's any outs in his contract,
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: but that could be offensive to him.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: John also said that one of the big questions is
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: what's the deal with his health? Is it his knee?
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: No one's talking about it. Will he have surgery this offseason?
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: If you have knee surgery, then you are not pitching
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: next year. So that might determine it in itself.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: And you know what's fascinating? That his injury the year
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: he had 55 homers or whatever and 50-plus stolen bases,
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: it was an arm injury. It was an elbow injury,
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: but they did a procedure with it. And he was
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: able to hit just fine. Now he's got a knee injury,
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: which he probably got doing not necessarily pitching, but hitting,
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: and that's the one that's bothering him.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: You know, Albert Pujols declined. I think that's one player
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: that's comparable to Otani. Completely dominated offense, and in his
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: mid-30s fell off. I wonder, I mean, I don't even
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: care if he pitches like that anymore. He's got to
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: return to what he is as a hitter. And physically,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I'm not so sure he can do it.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he already got the money for being a pitcher
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: and a hitter. It's guaranteed and deferred. So it's not
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: like they can renegotiate if he just hits.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, I think that was also, he's buried bonds.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I think there was money was also for it.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: It was $ 700 million no matter what.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they were like, well, if you
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: get us a few innings, we're saving on a starter.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: But they will need another starter.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: So does that mean because if Otani's not pitching, then
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: they have to pay Scooble?
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: The Dodgers are a bit.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Of a mess.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: A bit of a mess. Weirdly in a mess. All right,
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: let's get to getting the Heisman. Get you ready for
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: the college football weekend. Who is going to make a
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: statement Heisman-wise this weekend? Oh, I look gorgeous there. Throwing
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: out the Heisman. All right, you and I agree this
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: is Josh Hoover's weekend to go way up or way
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: down in the Heisman standings. Josh Hoover, there he is,
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: way down on the list. He filled in for Mendoza.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: He's taking over for Mendoza. 17 touchdowns, zero picks, average
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: games as far as the opponents. This is it. Prime time.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Prime national schedule. Noon, Ohio State. This is
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: his opportunity.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, if Jeremiah Smith has a great game,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: we're going to be like, oh, of course Jeremiah Smith
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: had a great game. He's Jeremiah Smith, but Josh Hoover
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: can get the national spotlight for the first time.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can go up, way up, take down
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: Ohio State all in the same weekend.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: By the way, CJ Carr has his first real test, too.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame, we haven't mentioned him in the Heisman discussion once.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Right, CJ Carr of Notre Dame, he hasn't had big
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: monster games against subplots.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: He hasn't had any games.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: No, he's playing nice football against average opponents, and that
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: won't get you the Heisman.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Well, I think this BYU game is his first real game.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: He's got two games on the schedule, BYU and Miami.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: So I think if Notre Dame blows out BYU or
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: wins convincingly, C.J. Carr might be the guy we're talking about.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: All right, coming up next, constructive criticism and maybe some
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: friendly bets between you and I for the NFL and
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: college football weekend. Stick around. Not so fast.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: I feel like we've been a Josh Hoover show this week.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: A lot of Josh Hoover.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, he's not getting the coverage.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Now he's got to come through. We went to bat
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: for him.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: He's got to come through.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Josh, you have to come through.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Watch the Ohio.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Welcome back to Not So Fast, Perloff and Paps.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Now, Sunday Night Football is at Lambeau this week as
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys and Packers renew their rivalry in primetime. It's
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Sunday Night Football live on NBC and Peacock. Paul, thank
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: God I am reading this promo because I don't know
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: if people were going to tune in for this bad boy.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, who would see this game coming? This is fantastic.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Nice ink on Dak there on the promo.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this will obviously be whatever the last Cowboys game was.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: This will be the highest rated game of the season.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: And for my Monday's headline today.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: Let's call it.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: I am going with.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: This game, but I'm actually going with the Cowboys. Now,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I think the Cowboys defense is a major problem. I
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: think that's a headline on Monday morning because obviously Green
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Bay looked amazing last week against Chicago on both sides
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: of the ball. But the Cowboys cannot stop the run.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: The Packers have not been running the ball without Josh Jacobs,
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: but I think they get it going. So the Packers
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: have to hold on the ball because on the other
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: side of the ball, the Cowboys offense has been amazing.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Just last week against Tampa Bay, they never got a
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: hold of the ball because the defense will never get
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: off the field.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: So this is going to be an interesting battle.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: I think that Christian Watson and Jordan Love are the
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: story here.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Dallas can't stop anyone, Paul.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: But if Dallas loses to Green Bay, they're still probably
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: the lead. It's not my lead, but it.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Could still be the lead. Yeah, definitely.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: But I think the Packers are also kind of a
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: glitzy team. This Packers coming back, and then Micah Parsons
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: will be back in a week or two, hopefully. I mean,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: we actually haven't heard anything concrete. I think the Packers
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: get a lot of buzz.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: Okay, so my Monday's lead as of now, I'm going
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: to go with the Chiefs. If the Chiefs can somehow
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: be undefeated, And it's kind of a mishmash NFL weekend
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs are going to get their due. Patrick Mahomes
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: carved some people up. He's taking on the Chargers. Chargers
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: don't look very good. If this is a nice blowout win,
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be, oh, a little reminder,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: don't forget about Mahomes. Everything's working well, even though they've
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: got injuries at the wide receiver position. They're right back
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: in the.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Thick of things.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we almost forgot about them because of the bye. Right.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: A little quiet week.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: I was surprised, too.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: They're not the favorite in the AFC.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: There's a couple teams. The Bills are pretty far ahead
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: of them in the odds.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: All right, let's keep it friendly here, Pearl. Great week
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: on Not So Fast. Good job to the entire crew.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: Let's put a little money on some things. We actually
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: bet $ 20 a game.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: Texans versus Jags. Shockingly, in London, Jags are giving two
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: and a half. Basically, it's a home game for the Jags.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, except that last week, remember, all the fans
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: were rooting for the Eagles.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Why is that?
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Well, Eagles fans travel, and I don't know about Jags fans.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: This feels like the Texans and Jags either play on
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Thursday night, back in the day, or Sunday morning.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: I don't want to besmirch anybody, and you know Eagles
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: fans better than I do. I don't think the properness
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: of London matches the Eagles fans' decor and demeanor.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Well, they seem to love it.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence had to go to a silent count in London,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: which afterwards he said, I thought you guys liked us.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Apparently not.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I'm so curious about this game. He's a Marvin Harrison.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Does he play? Does he make an impact?
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: But I really like the Jags as a team overall.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: I think the Texans are going to be a house
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: on fire because they're so desperate.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: I'm picking the Texans.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'll take the Jaguars, and I would give more points.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: I think they're going to handle them by a touchdown.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: Let's go Ravens giving three and a half at the Browns.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson?
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: They said there's a real chance he's going to play.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: I think this line is sort of in between. Now,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: the Browns are at home, and the Browns looked really
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: bad last week, and I think everybody sort of gave
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: up on them. There was a little buzz about Deshaun Watson.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: You know how the AFC North is, Paul, though.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: You're going to take the Browns, aren't you?
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely taking the Browns.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: I'll take the Ravens with whoever's at quarterback. Ohio State,
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: number four, giving three and a half at the Hoosiers.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: I watched a couple halves of Indiana football this year.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: That is not the same team as last year. It's
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: not just Fernando Mendoza is gone. Other guys are gone.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Pons is gone. I like Ohio State here in a
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: really close game, so it's not quite big enough spread
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: to feel confident, but I'm still taking the Buckeyes.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take Indiana outright just to be contrarian
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: and more to keep that story going. Alabama, number six,
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: giving seven and a half. at Tennessee, a place Alabama's
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: had trouble before.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: This is going to be an ugly, rock-em, shock-em game.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Alabama, they didn't really get their offense going last week
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: against Georgia. I guess I'm going to go the tie,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: but I don't feel great. I don't know the SEC
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: right now. Florida looks great one week, then they're bad. Alabama, Tennessee,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: they're very unpredictable.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: I think it's an important game for the quarterback at Alabama,
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: Keelan Russell. He was okay last week. That was a
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: game they could have pulled off against Georgia. I think
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: they're really frustrated they didn't take down Georgia last week.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: when they had the chance, and they're going to win
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: by seven points plus against Tennessee.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: We'll see. That's an interesting coaching matchup, too.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: I like Tennessee to at least show up a little
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: bit at home. All right.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: Before we wrap up for the week, it's time for
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: constructive criticism. Your feedback on social media to what we've
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: been saying, doing, and wearing. Here we go, Pearl. First one.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: Your post about Josh Hooper.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: From B Porter. Let's see how he does against real competition.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: If he does well this weekend, then hail praise. Otherwise...
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: He has been efficient against lesser competition. I'd argue, but
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: the guy's right. He's been playing great football, numbers-wise, against
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: average opponents.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but Northwestern seems to be pretty salty on defense.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know how.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure how, if they were bad. Nebraska was
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: at home. I see what you're saying. I really have
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: no idea. You know Josh Hoover started out number three
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: in Heisman odds this year? Everyone thought he was going
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: to be great, and then he fell back.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: But you want to fall back. You want to fall
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: back and then recover at the end. Of course, everyone knows.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: All right, one more constructive criticism. No team will return
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: to throwbacks permanently. That's me yesterday about throwbacks. Drew Butler,
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: our boy, said, if I were commissioner, every NFL team
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: would wear throwbacks Thanksgiving weekend. I'm down with that. One-stop shopping,
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: Thanksgiving weekend, throwbacks. You're with the family. You're hanging with
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: your old uncle who's had a few too many, your dad.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: I like this idea.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Good idea. Don't the Cowboys sort of wear throwbacks all
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: the time?
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Is there that much of a difference between the modern
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Cowboys uniform and the old Cowboys uniform?
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: Not that much. Not that much. It's time for the
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: feel-good pearl. Listen to this one and soak it in.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: Lined into the gap and left center.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: Churrio back.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: He makes the catch. The Brewers win the pennant.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. The Brewers win the pennant.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: The World Series will go through Wisconsin.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: That is a great call, and he's referencing Bob Uecker
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: from Major League there.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: It feels that Uecker, of course, that team was Cleveland.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't be funny if it was Cleveland against Milwaukee
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: in the World Series. All Uecker.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Anywhere to get Uecker in. staff at Not So Fast.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: Thank you for watching. Tune in next week.
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: We're done.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: Enjoy the football.