Latest / Real America with Dan Ball / 5/13/26 -- Dan Ball W/ Steve Marshall, Ed Gallrein, Lt. Col. Robert Maginnis, Michael Kane, Jeff Dornik.
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Straight ahead on Real America Tonight, Wuhan witness, a decorated
- 0:04Speaker 1: CIA insider, took the Hatzia on the Hill today, alleging
- 0:08Speaker 1: a high level midnight rewrite by federal officials to bury
- 0:11Speaker 1: the evidence of the origins of the COVID nineteen virus
- 0:15Speaker 1: and guests who told him to do it. Anthony Fauci
- 0:19Speaker 1: told Ya Plus Beijing Battle President Trump touching down in
- 0:22Speaker 1: China for the high stakes showdown between him and President
- 0:25Speaker 1: g hoping to leverage an end of the conflict with
- 0:28Speaker 1: Iran as new intelligence reveals the regime has restored some
- 0:32Speaker 1: of their underground missile power.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Oh and Silicon's Summits showdown.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Speaking of the summit, flanked by some huge powerhouses, we're
- 0:40Speaker 1: talking tech titans. President Trump is pushing for an end
- 0:44Speaker 1: to the AI chip blockade with China so that we
- 0:47Speaker 1: can control AI.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Is that good or bad? We'll discuss. I'm dan ball
- 0:51Speaker 2: and Real America starts right now.
- 1:00Speaker 3: Community leaders and senior analysts downplayed the possibility that the
- 1:04Speaker 3: COVID pandemic originated as a result of a lab incident.
- 1:09Speaker 3: Motives are difficult to define given the scope of the
- 1:13Speaker 3: DIGS review. Intentional or not the ices. Actions resulted in
- 1:19Speaker 3: cover up, wasted resources, and a failure to properly inform policymakers.
- 1:25Speaker 2: Oh how many scandals, lies.
- 1:28Speaker 1: And cover ups has this network uncovered for you, folks
- 1:32Speaker 1: over the last decade or so.
- 1:33Speaker 2: I mean, we can start counting them.
- 1:36Speaker 1: From the laptop from Hell to the twenty twenty election
- 1:39Speaker 1: to the COVID plandemic. We told you Uncovering the truth
- 1:44Speaker 1: is what we're leading off the program tonight when it
- 1:46Speaker 1: comes to the COVID plandemic, and it was front.
- 1:48Speaker 2: And center today on the Hill.
- 1:50Speaker 1: The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee heard testimony
- 1:53Speaker 1: from that man right there, James Erdman, IID, a decorated
- 1:57Speaker 1: combat veteran, a biology sky and a twenty year intelligence
- 2:02Speaker 1: insider with the CIA. I think he knows what he's
- 2:05Speaker 1: talking about. The former Army ranger and recipient of the
- 2:08Speaker 1: CIA Intelligence Medal of Merit is coming forward at great
- 2:12Speaker 1: personal risk and claiming the federal government buried evidence that
- 2:18Speaker 1: COVID came from the Wuhan lab and it was a
- 2:20Speaker 1: leak With a background biology in chemistry. Erman served within
- 2:24Speaker 1: the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, where he
- 2:26Speaker 1: allegedly witnessed intelligence leaders manipulate findings to protect and push
- 2:32Speaker 1: a specific narrative on COVID. His testimony suggests a midnight
- 2:37Speaker 1: rewrite where a six to one consensus pointing towards a
- 2:42Speaker 1: laboratory origin was all of a sudden scrubbed and then
- 2:46Speaker 1: replaced with a message of uncertainty where it came from
- 2:49Speaker 1: the hearing marks of pivotal escalation. Senator Ran Paul's pursuit
- 2:52Speaker 1: of accountability with the statue limitations on doctor Anthony Fauci's
- 2:57Speaker 1: alleged perjury now expired, paulish the focus from individual emails
- 3:01Speaker 1: to a wider systemic conspiracy.
- 3:04Speaker 4: Anthony Fauci intervened in twenty twenty one, and at his behest,
- 3:08Speaker 4: it seems like the CIA changed their change their conclusion. Internally,
- 3:14Speaker 4: their scientists were concluding that it came from the lab.
- 3:17Speaker 2: After Anthony Fauci.
- 3:18Speaker 4: Came in, he influenced their higher ups to overturn the
- 3:22Speaker 4: idea that it came from the lab.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Yeah, because Fauchi used our money to pay for the
- 3:26Speaker 1: gain of function research, and he knew that it was
- 3:29Speaker 1: his fault because he was.
- 3:31Speaker 2: In bed with that lab creating this crap.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Our first guest I'm sure has a lot to say
- 3:35Speaker 1: about the whistleblower's testimony. He's the director of advocacy over
- 3:38Speaker 1: the Children's Health Defense Michael Kane on the program, Michael,
- 3:42Speaker 1: I understand. My team tells me that you know, is
- 3:44Speaker 1: this James Erdman, IID the gentleman who testified today. I'm
- 3:49Speaker 1: believing this guy because you don't come forward when you're
- 3:52Speaker 1: CIA with something like this and not fear for your life.
- 3:55Speaker 1: You got to have some evidence, You've got to have
- 3:56Speaker 1: some guts, and you got to have what's doing right
- 3:59Speaker 1: in your mind. So kudos to this guy.
- 4:01Speaker 2: Welcome, Michael, thanks so much for having me.
- 4:04Speaker 5: Yeah, Jim founded a group called Fed's for Freedom and
- 4:08Speaker 5: I've had a number of calls U with Jim as
- 4:10Speaker 5: well as with Stephanie Widell, the executive director of Feds
- 4:14Speaker 5: for Freedom. I was fired as a teacher in New
- 4:16Speaker 5: York City for not getting the COVID shot.
- 4:18Speaker 2: Beds for Freedom.
- 4:19Speaker 5: I say thank good for you be Beeds for Freedom
- 4:22Speaker 5: had had a similar situations as a you know, military
- 4:26Speaker 5: and federal employees that lost their jobs over this. And
- 4:30Speaker 5: Jim is currently with the CIA. He's not retired, he's
- 4:35Speaker 5: not a vet. He works for the CIA as an
- 4:37Speaker 5: officer today to his his testimony today was not cleared
- 4:42Speaker 5: by the CIA. And you'll notice there was not one Democrat. Shamefully,
- 4:46Speaker 5: I was going to plant that hearing.
- 4:47Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we have the headline and a pick
- 4:49Speaker 2: of that. Look at all those empty seats.
- 4:51Speaker 1: What's up with that, Michael, Why didn't the Democrats want
- 4:54Speaker 1: to show up?
- 4:55Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think it's obvious. It's very hard
- 4:57Speaker 5: to combat what Jim had to say. You we don't
- 5:00Speaker 5: come out as a whistleblower working currently with the Central
- 5:04Speaker 5: Intelligence Agency if you're not sure you got your receipts
- 5:07Speaker 5: and you have everything in order. At Jim, I believe,
- 5:10Speaker 5: up until recently was also working with Director Gabbard the
- 5:15Speaker 5: DNI as well too, This very very credentialed man. And
- 5:20Speaker 5: what he points out is clear is that the scientists
- 5:23Speaker 5: and the analysts in the intelligence community that we're working
- 5:27Speaker 5: on this, we're pointing to a lab leak until Anthony
- 5:32Speaker 5: Fauci started to point them in a different direction. And
- 5:35Speaker 5: I just want to say my hat's off to Senator Paul,
- 5:38Speaker 5: Senator Johnson, all the Republicans there today did a fantastic job.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Six to one, six to one. They were saying, we
- 5:45Speaker 1: firmly believe it came from the Wuhan lab and it
- 5:47Speaker 1: was leaked. Now, I didn't hear if they thought it
- 5:49Speaker 1: was leaked intentionally or on accident. Do you have any
- 5:52Speaker 1: knowledge of which way they were leaning there, because that's
- 5:55Speaker 1: what a.
- 5:55Speaker 2: Lot of people want to know.
- 5:57Speaker 5: In the hearing, it was clearly said by Senator and
- 6:01Speaker 5: I believe by Jim as well too, they believed it
- 6:03Speaker 5: was almost certainly an accident. Okay, so that's as far
- 6:06Speaker 5: as this hearing was willing to go with it. But nevertheless,
- 6:10Speaker 5: this is still something that is being viewed as beyond
- 6:14Speaker 5: the pale for the deep state establishment. They're not standing
- 6:17Speaker 5: for it. That's why all the Democrats had to protest
- 6:20Speaker 5: and not show up at all. And the CIA came
- 6:23Speaker 5: out attacking Jim today in a statement as well too.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I heard here's what I like, the DJ throw
- 6:29Speaker 1: the headline up, Chris. The DOJ's weighing in on a
- 6:31Speaker 1: new criminal case since the statue limitations expired on good
- 6:35Speaker 1: old Anthony Fauci. And this is despite Joe Biden's auto
- 6:39Speaker 1: pen pardon that was supposed to what give him immunity
- 6:42Speaker 1: for any future.
- 6:43Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I'm sorry.
- 6:44Speaker 1: This guy lied about the six feet, he lied about
- 6:47Speaker 1: the masks, They lied about the vaccines, they lied about
- 6:50Speaker 1: where it came from.
- 6:50Speaker 2: It wasn't no damn.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Bat in a wet market. This guy, Look at him.
- 6:55Speaker 1: He needs to be behind bars.
- 6:58Speaker 5: Michael needs to be accountability.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Now.
- 7:01Speaker 5: What happened on May eleventh. Everyone was saying there was
- 7:04Speaker 5: this countdown to indict Fauci that was only for him
- 7:07Speaker 5: lying to Congress in front of Senator Rand Paul because
- 7:11Speaker 5: there's a five year window on that. But as you
- 7:13Speaker 5: point out, the DOJ just said, we're continuing to investigate.
- 7:16Speaker 5: We're investigating conspiracy charges on Anthony Fauci, and in addition
- 7:20Speaker 5: to that, there are rumbles that state based attorneys general
- 7:24Speaker 5: are also looking at this. The pardon for Fauci is
- 7:28Speaker 5: a federal pardon that does not escape him from state
- 7:32Speaker 5: criminal charges. So this is still on the table, and
- 7:37Speaker 5: thank god for this hearing today. COVID is still in
- 7:40Speaker 5: the news cycle. The voters care about this. We need accountability, yes,
- 7:45Speaker 5: we need the truth.
- 7:46Speaker 2: Yes we do.
- 7:46Speaker 1: Michael, thank you for saying that. Listen, we ruined millions
- 7:49Speaker 1: of kids' lives, taking them out of school. People died
- 7:52Speaker 1: that shouldn't have died. People are affected by this vaccine.
- 7:55Speaker 1: People are having health issues, were wearing those damn masks
- 7:57Speaker 1: for years. Somebody needs to be held accountable. Michael Kine,
- 8:00Speaker 1: director of Advocacy at the Children's Health Defense, Thank you
- 8:03Speaker 1: for all you guys do over there.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Appreciate you so much.
- 8:05Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Stan's good to be as coming up after the break.
- 8:08Speaker 1: President Trump currently in China meeting with President g What
- 8:11Speaker 1: will be the top subjects of discussion. Our friend Colonel
- 8:13Speaker 1: Robert McGinnis will fill us in after the break. Plus
- 8:17Speaker 1: Kentucky congressional candidate and Navy seal Ed Galleran will be
- 8:20Speaker 1: here to discuss the latest polls that show him beating
- 8:23Speaker 1: the incumbent Republican Thomas Massey. Don't go away, Real America
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- 8:55Speaker 1: conservative talk you can't get anywhere else. Now to the
- 9:14Speaker 1: conflict with Iran, but we're going to turn our eyes
- 9:17Speaker 1: to China because of course their connection to Iran and
- 9:20Speaker 1: the fact that President Trump just arrived in Beijing several
- 9:24Speaker 1: hours ago for the high stake summit with President Jijingping.
- 9:28Speaker 1: This as the two month old conflict with Iran now
- 9:31Speaker 1: enters a very critical phase. Well, the White House hopes
- 9:34Speaker 1: to leverage China's influence to try and break the diplomatic
- 9:37Speaker 1: stalemate with Iran. The current ceasefire remains on life support.
- 9:41Speaker 1: That's Trump's words. Trump has dismissed Tehran's latest peace counterproposal,
- 9:46Speaker 1: calling it garbage, demanding nothing less than full compliance, while
- 9:51Speaker 1: Iran demands an end to the US naval blockade in
- 9:54Speaker 1: the Strait of our moves and obviously that's not going
- 9:57Speaker 1: to happen. Trump says the urgency of the talks is
- 9:59Speaker 1: underscore by a new US intelligence assessment, despite earlier administration
- 10:04Speaker 1: claims that Iran's military was totally decimated. Officials now report
- 10:08Speaker 1: that Tehran has regained access to about ninety percent of
- 10:13Speaker 1: some of their missile facilities that surround the Strait of Harmus.
- 10:18Speaker 1: Most alarming again is that we're talking thirty of these
- 10:21Speaker 1: sites are right on the strait, and they can directly
- 10:25Speaker 1: threaten the global oil supply. Meantime, President Trump continues to
- 10:30Speaker 1: protect confidence, telling reporters the war is quote very much
- 10:33Speaker 1: under control, adding the temporary spike in oil prices is
- 10:37Speaker 1: not motivating his diplomacy, and that his sole focus is
- 10:41Speaker 1: stopping Iran from ever getting a nuke, but also trying
- 10:46Speaker 1: to control the Strait of Harmus. And don't think that's
- 10:48Speaker 1: not a big deal, folks, because our other adversaries like
- 10:51Speaker 1: Russia and China get their oil and natural gas from
- 10:55Speaker 1: them through the strait. That's another reason he's doing this.
- 10:59Speaker 1: This is a threat to enrich uranium to ninety percent
- 11:02Speaker 1: purity weapons grade if we attack again.
- 11:06Speaker 2: That's their claim.
- 11:07Speaker 1: Now, the Israelis are geting a little nervous, voicing deep
- 11:09Speaker 1: concern the President might cut a bad deal to end
- 11:12Speaker 1: the fighting, potentially leaving a RAN's ballistic missiles and proxies
- 11:15Speaker 1: like Hezbollah intact for now. The Pentagon says a plan
- 11:19Speaker 1: to escalate the conflict is ready to go. At the
- 11:22Speaker 1: Commander in chief's word, the message for administration remains graveville.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Either I ran, you make a deal.
- 11:28Speaker 1: Or, as the President said numerous times, total decimation. President
- 11:33Speaker 1: Trump and Jijingping are also seeking a resolution to the
- 11:37Speaker 1: volatile trade war during this summit. Central to the talks
- 11:41Speaker 1: is a managed trade proposal that could see a tariff
- 11:44Speaker 1: cut on thirty billion dollars worth of imports. In exchange,
- 11:48Speaker 1: the US is pushing for China to commit to equivalent
- 11:51Speaker 1: purchases of American energy aha get it instead of Iranian energy,
- 11:57Speaker 1: and also buying American agricultural goods managed by a formal
- 12:02Speaker 1: Board of Trade to be kind of the intermediary between
- 12:06Speaker 1: US and China. However, trade isn't the only sticking point
- 12:09Speaker 1: for the two leaders. President You expected to take a
- 12:11Speaker 1: firm stand on Taiwan, urging Trump to scale back our
- 12:15Speaker 1: military support and reiterate the one China policy following recent
- 12:19Speaker 1: US arm sales to Taiwan. I don't think POTUS is
- 12:23Speaker 1: going to bend on that. While both leaders are signaling
- 12:26Speaker 1: a desire for economic stability to protect their domestic markets.
- 12:29Speaker 1: The divide remains deep between Washington's focus on national security
- 12:33Speaker 1: and Beijing's uncompromising stance on what they perceive.
- 12:37Speaker 2: As their territorial boundaries.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Meantime, the American economy currently caught in this high stakes
- 12:44Speaker 1: tug of war, despite resilient GDP growth and a strong
- 12:48Speaker 1: labor market over the last year and four months. Of course,
- 12:51Speaker 1: the conflict in Iran is sending shock waves to the
- 12:54Speaker 1: global energy sector, and as you know, I don't have
- 12:56Speaker 1: to tell you it has driven gas prices up to
- 12:59Speaker 1: almost most five bucks a gallon in several states. This
- 13:03Speaker 1: energy spike is threatening to undo over a year of
- 13:06Speaker 1: progress on inflation, forcing the Federal Reserve to reconsider its
- 13:11Speaker 1: path on interest rates, while consumer spending has remained surprisingly robust.
- 13:15Speaker 1: Economists warn that the resilience of the US economy is
- 13:18Speaker 1: being tested to its absolute limit, which is most likely
- 13:22Speaker 1: another reason why the President wants to put this conflict
- 13:26Speaker 1: with Iran to bed.
- 13:28Speaker 2: Here now to weigh in on what's happening in Rand.
- 13:30Speaker 1: But bigger picture, this summit between the two powers, i'd
- 13:35Speaker 1: say the biggest powers on the planet, President Trump and
- 13:38Speaker 1: President j This is big, folks. He's retired US Army officer,
- 13:43Speaker 1: former Pentagon strategist, and former instructor at the US Army
- 13:46Speaker 1: War College are pal Lieutenant Colonel retired Robert McGinnis back
- 13:49Speaker 1: on the program. All right, colonel, that was a lot
- 13:52Speaker 1: to digest for everybody, But I want to hear your
- 13:54Speaker 1: take on how high stakes this summit is. I laid
- 13:58Speaker 1: out Taiwan, the trade, the tariffs, obviously, the oil, the
- 14:03Speaker 1: war with Iran.
- 14:06Speaker 2: What did I miss? Oh, fentanyl, I missed that one.
- 14:08Speaker 2: What else did I miss? At the President will be
- 14:10Speaker 2: bringing up and what will she be bringing up?
- 14:13Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a long list, but it is probably the
- 14:16Speaker 6: most important summit we've seen in decades, primarily because of
- 14:21Speaker 6: all of those issues. But I would argue that based
- 14:24Speaker 6: upon she's former statement. He said in the past that
- 14:29Speaker 6: artificial intelligence is the front line and main battlefield of
- 14:33Speaker 6: international competition. You know, if you've read the National Review
- 14:38Speaker 6: this past week, it's become pretty clear that the Chinese
- 14:42Speaker 6: no holds barred. They're moving out and this is a
- 14:46Speaker 6: global competition and their entire economy is tethered to what
- 14:50Speaker 6: ai does.
- 14:51Speaker 2: Now.
- 14:52Speaker 6: Of course, they have leverage over Iran and what the
- 14:55Speaker 6: president wants. The Taiwan issue is very delicate, probably the
- 15:00Speaker 6: short FEUs amongst all those. Then of course the tariffs,
- 15:04Speaker 6: you know, the Chinese wanted economic prowess in the United
- 15:09Speaker 6: States as well as elsewhere. All of those issues and
- 15:13Speaker 6: a few more to include fentanol will be discussed, But
- 15:17Speaker 6: I think really clearly it's the AI issue that's going
- 15:21Speaker 6: to really you know, if anything it's making news, it
- 15:25Speaker 6: will likely be in that area.
- 15:27Speaker 1: You know, I've had AI experts on and we're actually
- 15:31Speaker 1: having a tech ceo on right after you to talk
- 15:34Speaker 1: about the threat of AI if China controls it versus
- 15:37Speaker 1: if we control it. Do you think that's one of
- 15:39Speaker 1: the main reasons that President Trump took all of these
- 15:42Speaker 1: tech CEOs and leaders with him to send a message
- 15:45Speaker 1: to Gibi like, Hey, we know you're trying to be
- 15:47Speaker 1: at the forefront of AI and control this and this
- 15:49Speaker 1: is going to be the new warfare. But I've got
- 15:52Speaker 1: all these guys and gals who are going to own
- 15:55Speaker 1: AI across the globe because their companies do and they're
- 15:58Speaker 1: on board with us. Was that kind of a our
- 16:00Speaker 1: play to take all those CEOs?
- 16:02Speaker 6: Well, it was. He took Jensen Wong, who they boarded
- 16:06Speaker 6: Air Force one when they were refueling in Anchorage. It's
- 16:10Speaker 6: interesting he was the last minute add on because he oversees,
- 16:14Speaker 6: of course, Navidia, which the Chinese can't get our latest GPUs,
- 16:22Speaker 6: although Huawei is making some pretty effective GPUs, which really
- 16:27Speaker 6: the heart of AI and the data center. So we
- 16:30Speaker 6: need to recognize that the technology is front and center here.
- 16:34Speaker 6: Along with Tim Cook, Elon Musk you others will be
- 16:39Speaker 6: a board that are going to try to work with
- 16:43Speaker 6: the Chinese, but not to fall behind the Chinese, because
- 16:47Speaker 6: you know, there was a White House announcement just a
- 16:50Speaker 6: week ago that you know, they're really stealing our intellectual
- 16:55Speaker 6: property for AI in a massive way. So it's a
- 16:59Speaker 6: very concerning and very serious issue.
- 17:03Speaker 1: Yeah, and then when we find out we've got Democrat
- 17:05Speaker 1: lawmakers in our country that are working for the CCP,
- 17:08Speaker 1: like we figured out this past week with that Mari
- 17:10Speaker 1: of Yeah, I see shaking your head of Acadia, California
- 17:14Speaker 1: near La You know I tacked that onto the Eric
- 17:16Speaker 1: Swallwell sleeping with Fang Fang?
- 17:18Speaker 2: How many more democrats are in bed with the Chinese?
- 17:21Speaker 2: Last one too?
- 17:21Speaker 1: You I really want to hit this AI, and you've
- 17:23Speaker 1: written a couple books on this, and you and myself,
- 17:26Speaker 1: and I would assume the majority of my viewers being Christians,
- 17:29Speaker 1: it's a major concern about AI. I feel like AI
- 17:32Speaker 1: and tech might not be the anti Christ. But I
- 17:35Speaker 1: think you're the one that told me you look at
- 17:36Speaker 1: it as a false profit. I mean, people are literally
- 17:38Speaker 1: worshiping their phones and AI, and they talk and have
- 17:43Speaker 1: conversations almost like relationships, Colonel with GROC and chat GPT
- 17:49Speaker 1: and this AI crap. I stay away from it. I
- 17:51Speaker 1: don't like it. I don't use it. I know some
- 17:53Speaker 1: of my team does here, but this stuff scares me.
- 17:56Speaker 1: And I'm glad that least President Trump is trying to
- 17:58Speaker 1: make sure that we'reth forefront and we're controlling it. And again,
- 18:02Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be a doomsday or and say,
- 18:04Speaker 1: you know, I believe all the Schwarzenegger Terminator movies. But
- 18:07Speaker 1: to me, Colonel AI is scary. Your thoughts final question.
- 18:11Speaker 6: There rightly should be. And that's why I've written three books,
- 18:14Speaker 6: two of which are published. And we are indeed in
- 18:17Speaker 6: an AI cold war. There's no question about it. I
- 18:20Speaker 6: challenge anybody that doesn't believe it to read the book,
- 18:23Speaker 6: because they'll walk away convinced that, yes, this is a
- 18:27Speaker 6: very significant change. It's going to impact all our lives, good, bad,
- 18:31Speaker 6: or indifferent, whether we want it or not, and it
- 18:34Speaker 6: already does. And so we have to come to the
- 18:36Speaker 6: reality that discernment in working with this artificial intelligence wherever
- 18:42Speaker 6: it happens to pop up its head, we've got to
- 18:45Speaker 6: be very discerning about it. Otherwise it's going to take
- 18:48Speaker 6: over this world in way that's not going to be
- 18:51Speaker 6: very pretty.
- 18:52Speaker 2: You wrote an op ed.
- 18:53Speaker 1: I thought I was done, but my team reminded me,
- 18:56Speaker 1: and I know they popped it up earlier, but I
- 18:57Speaker 1: want to throw it up one more time. And have
- 18:59Speaker 1: you read the colonel's op ed on AI, and it
- 19:03Speaker 1: literally says Christians should pay attention.
- 19:08Speaker 2: Folks. If you're God.
- 19:08Speaker 1: Fearing like me, and you believe in the Word and
- 19:11Speaker 1: you have faith in God, you will have that discernment
- 19:14Speaker 1: that the Colonel was just talking to you about when
- 19:16Speaker 1: it comes to AI, because whether we want it or not,
- 19:18Speaker 1: it's here, it's coming, and we've got to be able.
- 19:20Speaker 2: To deal with it. Retireal Tenant Colonel Robert McGinnis. As always,
- 19:24Speaker 2: thank you, sir for your insight.
- 19:26Speaker 6: Thanks Dan.
- 19:26Speaker 2: Yep. All right.
- 19:28Speaker 1: One for the major issues being discussed, as we just
- 19:31Speaker 1: talked about with the Colonel at this major summit is
- 19:34Speaker 1: of course, the future of AI. So Tech CEO Jeff
- 19:38Speaker 1: Dornick is going to weigh in on the importance of
- 19:40Speaker 1: America leading the way with AI right after the break,
- 19:44Speaker 1: so don't go away, you'll want to hear it. For
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- 20:21Speaker 2: Welcome back. As we just mentioned our last segment.
- 20:24Speaker 1: Before the break, all eyes on Beijing today as President
- 20:27Speaker 1: Trump begins at high stake state visiting, companied by a
- 20:30Speaker 1: whole bunch of heavy hitting delegation American CEOs like Elon Muskin,
- 20:35Speaker 1: Tim cook and others, while trade staples like soybeans and
- 20:39Speaker 1: Boeing jets are on the agenda.
- 20:41Speaker 2: The late edition of.
- 20:42Speaker 1: Navidia's CEO to the guest List has shifted the spotlight
- 20:47Speaker 1: firmly onto AI. You heard the Colonel, if you're watching
- 20:50Speaker 1: last segment, say, he jumped on while Air Force one
- 20:52Speaker 1: was refueling in Alaska. So why did I think it's
- 20:56Speaker 1: hung the CEO? Why did he join the delegation last minute? Well,
- 21:01Speaker 1: evidently there was a call from the President, and so
- 21:03Speaker 1: he flew his own plane up to Alaska, hopped on board,
- 21:06Speaker 1: and there he is now. His presence underscores a billion
- 21:10Speaker 1: dollar stalemate. Navidia currently sitting on inventory of its advanced
- 21:14Speaker 1: H two hundred chips, which have been cleared by Washington
- 21:18Speaker 1: but are currently being blocked by Beijing. As China pushes
- 21:22Speaker 1: for domestic self sufficiency. President Trump already signaling his intent,
- 21:27Speaker 1: stating he will personally ask President g to open up
- 21:30Speaker 1: so that these tech leaders can work their magic together.
- 21:35Speaker 1: While the US is winning the AI race on paper,
- 21:38Speaker 1: China might have found a shortcut that matters even more.
- 21:42Speaker 1: For years, the lead was measured by raw muscle more chips,
- 21:46Speaker 1: more data centers and billions of dollars until a Chinese
- 21:50Speaker 1: lab that almost nobody in the West had heard about
- 21:52Speaker 1: released deep Seek, matching American performance at a fraction of
- 21:56Speaker 1: the cost, using hardware they weren't host to even have.
- 22:02Speaker 2: They stole it from US. Probably, while the US builds
- 22:04Speaker 2: the world's best.
- 22:05Speaker 1: Front tier models like chat GPT five, it's facing massive
- 22:09Speaker 1: energy bottlenecks and a shrinking pipeline of foreign talent. Meantime,
- 22:14Speaker 1: China is embedding AI into the boring parts of the
- 22:18Speaker 1: economy like manufacturing and logistics, at double the rate of
- 22:22Speaker 1: the US America. I'm told he's got the best models,
- 22:25Speaker 1: but China focused on the fastest and best integration. But
- 22:29Speaker 1: as the President pushes for global domination in AI, a
- 22:33Speaker 1: new legal firewall is rising at home.
- 22:36Speaker 2: The family of Taru Chaba, killed in last.
- 22:39Speaker 1: Year's Florida State University shooting remember that, is now suing
- 22:43Speaker 1: Open AI. They allege that chat GPT acted as a
- 22:48Speaker 1: co conspirator, providing the gunman with technical instruction on how
- 22:53Speaker 1: to load and operate weapons without a safety while failing
- 22:57Speaker 1: to alert authorities to the suspects to decision regarding a
- 23:01Speaker 1: mass shooting and even Hitler.
- 23:05Speaker 2: Remember that a lot of these school shooters.
- 23:06Speaker 1: Are getting online and they're asking AI, how do I
- 23:09Speaker 1: do this?
- 23:09Speaker 2: How do I do that?
- 23:11Speaker 1: And it doesn't say I can't tell you that. It
- 23:13Speaker 1: tells them things. This is another reason I don't like AI.
- 23:17Speaker 2: Folks.
- 23:18Speaker 1: Open AI calls the shooting a tragedy, but denies any responsibility,
- 23:21Speaker 1: stating that the bot provided only factual, public available information.
- 23:26Speaker 1: But again, young people think that you know, that thing's
- 23:29Speaker 1: smarter than a human.
- 23:30Speaker 2: It's talking to me, telling me it knows.
- 23:33Speaker 1: The case is now head in a federal court challenging
- 23:35Speaker 1: whether AI is a passive tool protected by law or
- 23:40Speaker 1: it's an active, independent agent capable of foreseeing a crime
- 23:45Speaker 1: and an essence should have not given this kid the information,
- 23:48Speaker 1: or at least reported after the kid.
- 23:49Speaker 2: Asked for it.
- 23:50Speaker 1: It's a lot to swallow, folks, joining me now for
- 23:53Speaker 1: more insight into all this. He is the founder and
- 23:55Speaker 1: CEO of Pickaxe and host of The Jeff Dornick Show.
- 23:58Speaker 2: Tech CEO Dornick on the program, Jeff, nice to see him,
- 24:03Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on. You heard what I laid out.
- 24:07Speaker 1: I know where I stand, and I guess it's because
- 24:08Speaker 1: I'll be fifty two this year. So I'm old, but
- 24:11Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of AI. But I know
- 24:13Speaker 1: it's here. It's not going anywhere. It's taking over, whether
- 24:16Speaker 1: I like it or not. But I think we got
- 24:18Speaker 1: to have some guardrails, some safety nets, something so that
- 24:23Speaker 1: some eighteen year old can't use it to get information
- 24:26Speaker 1: to figure out how to go kill people.
- 24:28Speaker 2: What do you think?
- 24:29Speaker 7: Yeah, it's absolutely bonkers. And and what's crazy is I've
- 24:33Speaker 7: been you know, for me, I've dove into tech a
- 24:35Speaker 7: couple of years ago, obviously building out social media platform.
- 24:38Speaker 7: And prior to diving into tech, I was like, you know, AI,
- 24:40Speaker 7: it's a great tool. Was using it to you know,
- 24:43Speaker 7: edit articles that I was writing and things along those lines.
- 24:46Speaker 7: But but then you know, as now I'm building out
- 24:49Speaker 7: the social media platform, now I'm looking at at the
- 24:53Speaker 7: results of it, and I'm deeply, deeply concerned with with
- 24:57Speaker 7: the direction of the artificial intelligence is taking us. All
- 24:59Speaker 7: you have to do is you have to listen to
- 25:01Speaker 7: some of the guys that are even on President Trump's airplane,
- 25:04Speaker 7: Guys like Elon Musk, who literally goes on Joe Rogan's
- 25:07Speaker 7: podcast and says that he's using capitalism in order to
- 25:11Speaker 7: usher in a communist utopia, and communism has always failed
- 25:15Speaker 7: in the past because of a lack of resources. But
- 25:17Speaker 7: with AI and humanoid robots, that now we'll have a
- 25:20Speaker 7: surplus of resources and there's gonna be no need for
- 25:22Speaker 7: human beings to be in the workforce at all. Which
- 25:24Speaker 7: is ironic that now that guy who's saying he's trying
- 25:27Speaker 7: to usher into communist utopia is on Air Force one
- 25:31Speaker 7: going over to China, who is communist central out there
- 25:35Speaker 7: and talking about, Oh, let's collaborate, let's work together. What
- 25:38Speaker 7: is going on here?
- 25:39Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I have a lot of questions.
- 25:41Speaker 1: I get that President Trump wanted to have like this
- 25:43Speaker 1: team of tech giants behind him to try and show
- 25:46Speaker 1: some team force against China and be like, hey, you guys,
- 25:50Speaker 1: as I mentioned, you're getting into logistics and the manufacturing
- 25:53Speaker 1: and putting AI in there. We're using in other tech ways,
- 25:55Speaker 1: but we control a bunch of the big giants, and
- 25:58Speaker 1: these companies are on board with the US, not China.
- 26:01Speaker 2: And I get that.
- 26:02Speaker 1: And then adding the Navidia guy in at the last
- 26:04Speaker 1: minute because of the chip shortage either that was genius
- 26:07Speaker 1: as well, But again I have to question what in
- 26:10Speaker 1: the hell is going on with this AI takeover and
- 26:13Speaker 1: who's going to be in charge of it, who's going
- 26:15Speaker 1: to be programming it. That's the biggest thing for me,
- 26:17Speaker 1: because if you have some crazy woke liberal programming all
- 26:22Speaker 1: the AI ten years from now and saying that, you know,
- 26:25Speaker 1: we should have open borders, you can change your gender
- 26:28Speaker 1: and defund the cops, and you know, the usual talking
- 26:30Speaker 1: points that liberals believe in, and they're programming all the
- 26:33Speaker 1: AI down the road, or let's say China's involved and
- 26:36Speaker 1: their communist beliefs are programming it. What the hell are
- 26:39Speaker 1: we going to have as a Republican ten twenty years
- 26:41Speaker 1: down the road if people are believing Because again, I
- 26:44Speaker 1: know people in their forties that get into full on
- 26:47Speaker 1: discussions with GROC.
- 26:49Speaker 2: And believe everything AI says.
- 26:51Speaker 1: I've gotten arguments, I've lost friendships over AI crap because
- 26:55Speaker 1: people believe it.
- 26:57Speaker 7: Yeah, it shows the power that AI has over us
- 27:00Speaker 7: because when you think about it, it talks like like like
- 27:02Speaker 7: a person. Uh you know, they're now including audio to
- 27:05Speaker 7: where it sounds like a person. There's even apps now
- 27:07Speaker 7: where it looks like it looks like a real person
- 27:10Speaker 7: that's communicating with you. And this is this is where
- 27:12Speaker 7: we're getting into the power of basically propaganda, mind control
- 27:17Speaker 7: to a cert to a certain degree. And again, like you,
- 27:19Speaker 7: like you said, who controls it? If we're going to
- 27:22Speaker 7: get into partnership with the CCP, with the Chinese Communist Party, who,
- 27:25Speaker 7: by the way, it was was just found to to
- 27:28Speaker 7: have there's a mayor out here in California that was
- 27:32Speaker 7: just arrested for being an agent of the CCP. So
- 27:35Speaker 7: if they're doing that with a mayor out here in Arcadia, California,
- 27:40Speaker 7: what are they going to be doing when it comes
- 27:41Speaker 7: to if they're in collaboration with Elon Musk or Sam
- 27:45Speaker 7: Altman or any of these guys. You don't think that
- 27:48Speaker 7: they're gonna be having their plants that are that are
- 27:50Speaker 7: impacting what's going on. Didn't we just have this big
- 27:52Speaker 7: fight over TikTok being based in China, and now we're
- 27:55Speaker 7: going over there and saying, oh, let's part let's partner
- 27:57Speaker 7: it together, let's let's figure out a way to collaborate.
- 27:59Speaker 7: What like it just does not make any logical sense.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if Trump is trying to do
- 28:04Speaker 1: it to get ahead of the game. As far as
- 28:07Speaker 1: Ai and say, look, if we partner, then we'll have
- 28:09Speaker 1: some control and we can see what they're doing, and
- 28:12Speaker 1: it would be more transparent than them trying to sneak
- 28:14Speaker 1: over and steal all of our tech, which, by the way,
- 28:16Speaker 1: they've been doing for decades. How much intellectual property has
- 28:19Speaker 1: been stolen from American ingenuity by China over the last
- 28:23Speaker 1: twenty thirty forty years. I mean, we can't even count.
- 28:26Speaker 1: It's it's absolutely insane to me, Jeff, last one too,
- 28:29Speaker 1: is real easy. I'm gonna throw some headlines up. Countries
- 28:31Speaker 1: like Malaysia and Indonesia already have blocked and banned GROC
- 28:36Speaker 1: over several reasons. But one of them big one sexualized
- 28:39Speaker 1: AI images. They don't want their people seeing that. And
- 28:42Speaker 1: here's another one, And this is my fear AI and
- 28:45Speaker 1: the dangers of a cognitive surrender by humans AI can
- 28:49Speaker 1: hinder Americans critical thinking skills.
- 28:53Speaker 2: I agree with that.
- 28:55Speaker 1: In that case of the shooting down in Florida, what
- 28:58Speaker 1: do you make of that?
- 28:59Speaker 2: Should AI take and.
- 29:00Speaker 1: The creators a little responsibility for the fact that this
- 29:04Speaker 1: shooter used it to figure out how to go kill humans?
- 29:08Speaker 2: Your thoughts?
- 29:09Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I one hundred percent agree. I think that
- 29:12Speaker 7: that there does need to be some type of responsibility.
- 29:15Speaker 7: I don't know what to what degree. I mean, there's
- 29:17Speaker 7: a friend of mine who's actually a far leftist columnist.
- 29:19Speaker 7: Is his name is Ted Rawl, but he wrote an
- 29:21Speaker 7: article several years ago about if AI slanders you, who's
- 29:24Speaker 7: supposed to be held responsible? Is it the developers? Is
- 29:27Speaker 7: it the source that it's citing. Who's supposed to be responsible?
- 29:30Speaker 7: And And this has been a long question that's been
- 29:32Speaker 7: going on for a long time, and nobody seems to
- 29:34Speaker 7: answer it. And I will let me rephrase that. I
- 29:36Speaker 7: think they have answered it by not answering and saying
- 29:39Speaker 7: that they don't want to take any responsibility. And our
- 29:41Speaker 7: government doesn't want to force them to take responsibility because
- 29:44Speaker 7: they because they know that if we want to win
- 29:45Speaker 7: the AI race, we got to rely on these big
- 29:47Speaker 7: tech companies. But the real question that I have, especially
- 29:50Speaker 7: dealing with with Trump and that team over there in China,
- 29:52Speaker 7: is it seems to me that Trump thinks that we
- 29:55Speaker 7: need to collaborate with China on AI specifically, because when
- 29:59Speaker 7: you think about it, Chat, GPT, all these AI companies,
- 30:02Speaker 7: they're held responsible if they do something illegal. They're now
- 30:05Speaker 7: being sued in a variety of court cases.
- 30:07Speaker 2: When you think.
- 30:07Speaker 7: About it, the CCP doesn't have those same restrictions, and
- 30:10Speaker 7: so there could be seeing the writing on the wall
- 30:13Speaker 7: that China is going to be able to develop far
- 30:15Speaker 7: faster than us because they do not have the same
- 30:18Speaker 7: restrictions and liability that these companies here in the United
- 30:21Speaker 7: States may have. So they're saying, Okay, let's put America
- 30:24Speaker 7: first and let's collaborate so we don't fall behind. But
- 30:26Speaker 7: the real question is are we putting America first? Are
- 30:29Speaker 7: we putting Americans first? And I'm concerned that we're not
- 30:31Speaker 7: putting Americans first when it comes to this.
- 30:33Speaker 1: That's a great point. Jeff, stay in touch. I have
- 30:36Speaker 1: a feeling we're gonna have a lot more conversations over
- 30:38Speaker 1: the coming years about this AI crap. I'll keep my
- 30:41Speaker 1: faith in God, in the word and not some stupid
- 30:43Speaker 1: voice on my cell phone.
- 30:46Speaker 2: Thank you, appreciate it. Than Jeff Thornick's CEO founder Pickaxe.
- 30:50Speaker 2: Have a good day, my friend.
- 30:51Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 30:52Speaker 1: Up Next, new details in the scandal involving the Southern
- 30:55Speaker 1: Poverty Law Center. Now the state of Alabama weighing in
- 30:58Speaker 1: on the claims at the SPLC was funding many of
- 31:01Speaker 1: the hate groups they claim to be fighting against Alabama's
- 31:05Speaker 1: Attorney General. We'll be here next to sound Off, don't
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- 31:48Speaker 8: This feels to me like the tip of the iceberg.
- 31:50Speaker 8: The question is how deep does this conspiracy go?
- 31:54Speaker 1: If you don't recall, that was the director of research
- 31:56Speaker 1: over the Government Accountability Institute and my friend Seamus Brunner,
- 31:59Speaker 1: who was on this PRORO last month, like the day
- 32:02Speaker 1: the huge scandal broke surrounding the Southern Poverty Law Center
- 32:07Speaker 1: on April twenty first.
- 32:08Speaker 2: If you don't recall, let's take you back.
- 32:09Speaker 1: A federal grand jury in Montgomery, Alabama, returned an indictment
- 32:13Speaker 1: against the SPLC, charging this organization with a whole bunch
- 32:17Speaker 1: of stuff like wirefraud, false statements, and conspiracy to commit
- 32:22Speaker 1: money laundering.
- 32:24Speaker 2: Now why do they do all this? Well, we're going
- 32:25Speaker 2: to get to that.
- 32:26Speaker 1: The indictment alleges a decade long scheme probably longer, where
- 32:30Speaker 1: the SPLC funneled over three million bucks that they know
- 32:34Speaker 1: of in donor funds to the very extremist groups that
- 32:40Speaker 1: they claimed they were fighting, groups like the American Nazi
- 32:45Speaker 1: Party and the KKK. I wonder if they were involved
- 32:49Speaker 1: with January six anyway. Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche stated
- 32:54Speaker 1: the organization was quote manufacturing racism to justify their exhibit
- 33:00Speaker 1: distance uning, using the donor money to allegedly profit off
- 33:05Speaker 1: of some really bad people like klansmen. Now Well Fender
- 33:09Speaker 1: prosecutors described SPLC as a fraudulent organization. The group has
- 33:13Speaker 1: held a seat at the table in Washington for years,
- 33:17Speaker 1: serving as a primary consultant for the Biden regime in
- 33:22Speaker 1: tracking what they labeled for four years as hate groups.
- 33:25Speaker 1: And do you remember what they kept telling us The
- 33:28Speaker 1: biggest threat to America is not Iran, It's not Russia.
- 33:32Speaker 1: It's not China, it's white supremacy because you were paying
- 33:37Speaker 1: for it.
- 33:38Speaker 8: The donors or anybody else beyond the SPLC was in
- 33:41Speaker 8: on it. We're talking conspiracy potential rico. So I think
- 33:44Speaker 8: that needs to be fully investigated. Now, I think even
- 33:47Speaker 8: more absurd than all of this is that under the
- 33:50Speaker 8: Biden administration they actually relied on the SPLC and their
- 33:55Speaker 8: categorization of hate groups.
- 33:58Speaker 2: There was a partnership between the.
- 33:59Speaker 8: Bio An FBI and the SPLC to identify hate groups.
- 34:05Speaker 1: Crazy, right, folks, Again, you can't make this crap up.
- 34:08Speaker 1: And you thought it all went away when Jojo and
- 34:11Speaker 1: Cacklin Kamala went away.
- 34:12Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no.
- 34:12Speaker 1: Now we're just peeling back the layers of the Dirty
- 34:15Speaker 1: Onion Act. The Attorney General Blanche said, the grand jury
- 34:19Speaker 1: indicted the SBLC on six counts and I love it now,
- 34:23Speaker 1: Alabama Attorney General.
- 34:24Speaker 2: Though it ain't over for the SBLC. Guess what. Steve
- 34:27Speaker 2: Marshall has now launched a massive civil.
- 34:30Speaker 1: Investigation into the Montgomery based group, accusing them of deceptive
- 34:35Speaker 1: fundraising practices. Oh yes, Marshall's office served a subpoena Monday
- 34:40Speaker 1: demanding the SBLC handover internal documents, and he gave them
- 34:45Speaker 1: till June one.
- 34:47Speaker 2: The state is looking for.
- 34:48Speaker 1: Proof that the organization monetized their hate by again funneling
- 34:53Speaker 1: the donor cash to some of the head extremists that
- 34:56Speaker 1: they had planted within the groups. The AG's office seeking
- 35:00Speaker 1: specific records on informant payments and donor disclosures, vowing to
- 35:05Speaker 1: determine the SPLC's rotten inner workings violated Alabama's consumer protection laws.
- 35:13Speaker 1: I bet they did, but let's find out more. Joining
- 35:16Speaker 1: us now to discuss this investigation, he is Alabama's Attorney General,
- 35:20Speaker 1: Steve Marshall on the program for the first time.
- 35:23Speaker 2: AG.
- 35:24Speaker 1: Thanks so much for coming on, and thank you for
- 35:26Speaker 1: doing this because I'll tell you what.
- 35:28Speaker 2: We have got so much fraud, waste.
- 35:30Speaker 1: And abuse going on at government levels and NGOs, nonprofits
- 35:35Speaker 1: like this PLC. This crap needs to be exposed and
- 35:38Speaker 1: we need to shut them down.
- 35:39Speaker 9: Steve, welcome, thank you, and look were pleased to have
- 35:43Speaker 9: been a part early on in the federal investigation that
- 35:46Speaker 9: resulted in that indictment here in the Middle District of Alabama.
- 35:50Speaker 2: But we had the opportunity.
- 35:51Speaker 9: Now to leverage the authority given to an attorney general
- 35:54Speaker 9: to deal with issues of fraud and abuse that go
- 35:57Speaker 9: on in consumer sections, and so using that authority is
- 36:02Speaker 9: the basis for issuing our subpoenas. And by the way, likewise,
- 36:05Speaker 9: have my colleague from Florida Attorney General there is likewise
- 36:10Speaker 9: doing the same investigation.
- 36:11Speaker 2: That's great. When did this all start?
- 36:13Speaker 1: You said, you obviously were a big player in helping
- 36:16Speaker 1: Blanche and the federal government and the AG's office there
- 36:19Speaker 1: bring these indictments against them.
- 36:21Speaker 2: Was this being looked.
- 36:22Speaker 1: At in your office and other offices around Alabama for years?
- 36:25Speaker 2: Months? Back up in fill us in, Yeah.
- 36:27Speaker 9: It's been a few years ago because we were assisting
- 36:29Speaker 9: our federal partners and information that we had obtained, wanted
- 36:33Speaker 9: to be able to facilitate their investigation and actually gave
- 36:36Speaker 9: them one of our investigators to be able to work
- 36:38Speaker 9: with them. But it won't shock you that during the
- 36:40Speaker 9: Biden DOJ everything went crickets. We saw during this administration.
- 36:46Speaker 9: Obviously things change, and now the world has an opportunity
- 36:49Speaker 9: have had a chance to review that indictment of funneling
- 36:52Speaker 9: money to foster hate and then profiting off of it.
- 36:56Speaker 9: That's what we're looking into.
- 36:57Speaker 1: You know what kills me and I would hope again
- 37:00Speaker 1: fill the donor list up, guys, you would. I would
- 37:02Speaker 1: think that some of these major mega donors have to
- 37:05Speaker 1: be part of my friends pretty pissed off that if
- 37:08Speaker 1: they gave the money to actually fuel hate. Now again,
- 37:11Speaker 1: I know that some of the top dogs that are
- 37:13Speaker 1: listed here are extremely whackle liberals, like, for instance, I
- 37:17Speaker 1: see Tom Steyer, okay, the billionaires running for gov right
- 37:20Speaker 1: out here in California. I know he's a leftist whack job,
- 37:23Speaker 1: so he probably didn't care if they were doing this.
- 37:25Speaker 1: But to look at some of these companies, I got
- 37:28Speaker 1: to feel like they are really upset. Are any of
- 37:31Speaker 1: the major donors working with you guys on the investigation
- 37:34Speaker 1: to say, hey, we want to get to the bottom
- 37:36Speaker 1: of this, we might want some of our money back.
- 37:38Speaker 9: Yeah, and definitely we're going to want to reach out
- 37:41Speaker 9: to those that we see are significant providers of income
- 37:44Speaker 9: to the SPLC, specifically based on the outreachs that they
- 37:47Speaker 9: obtained from the information they got from these so called informants.
- 37:52Speaker 9: You know, but we definitely have the responsibility and frankly
- 37:55Speaker 9: the authority, especially involving charitable organizations, Yes to make sure
- 38:01Speaker 9: that they are acting consistent with the law. Obviously there's
- 38:04Speaker 9: significant concerns about whether or not the SPLC was doing.
- 38:07Speaker 2: So they're a five oh one C, right, they're a
- 38:09Speaker 2: nonprofit group. That's my understanding.
- 38:11Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So I'm thinking I like to put stuff
- 38:15Speaker 1: in lay term Steve. So I'm a regular American and
- 38:18Speaker 1: I feel like, man, I don't like all this hate.
- 38:21Speaker 1: So I'm gonna sign up and give the SBLC one
- 38:23Speaker 1: hundred bucks a month for the next year. So I
- 38:25Speaker 1: give them twelve hundred dollars, and now I find out
- 38:28Speaker 1: they were potentially allegedly fueling this hate. So one more
- 38:32Speaker 1: time before I leave you, I just want to break
- 38:35Speaker 1: down in those late terms, what the allegations are.
- 38:38Speaker 2: It appears, and you correct me when I'm wrong.
- 38:40Speaker 1: They were taking these millions of dollars in and then
- 38:43Speaker 1: they were having either paid informants or plants within these
- 38:48Speaker 1: hate groups report back to them.
- 38:50Speaker 2: But they were some of these guys.
- 38:51Speaker 1: It seems like we're at the top of the echelon
- 38:54Speaker 1: fueling the hate, guiding them to go do the protest
- 38:57Speaker 1: or the whatever it may be, the cross burnings or whatever,
- 38:59Speaker 1: and so in essence, they had offshore accounts. They were
- 39:02Speaker 1: taking a bunch of the money. They were funneling it
- 39:04Speaker 1: out of America, then coming back through to give to
- 39:07Speaker 1: the hate groups and the guys they had in there
- 39:09Speaker 1: they knew so they could ramp up the hate so
- 39:11Speaker 1: it looked like they were fighting it so they could
- 39:13Speaker 1: keep the donations rolling through, and there's the vicious cycle.
- 39:17Speaker 2: Did I get that right?
- 39:18Speaker 9: No? I think you got it absolutely right. And of
- 39:20Speaker 9: course we've got the indictment. Now that's laid out that scheme.
- 39:24Speaker 9: We now have the opportunity through the subpoena as we've issued,
- 39:27Speaker 9: to discover even more.
- 39:29Speaker 2: Please stay in touch with my producer.
- 39:30Speaker 1: We would love to have you back on AG and
- 39:32Speaker 1: talk more about this because I want to bust these
- 39:34Speaker 1: guys wide open.
- 39:36Speaker 9: Look forward to it.
- 39:37Speaker 2: Thank you, appreciate you.
- 39:38Speaker 1: Jorney Jennifer for the great State of Alabama. Steve Marshall,
- 39:41Speaker 1: God blessed.
- 39:41Speaker 2: Thanks you all. Right, stick around. Guess what more fallout for.
- 39:46Speaker 1: Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massey this after a former girlfriend comes
- 39:52Speaker 1: forward on the record with some wild allegations against him
- 39:56Speaker 1: and Indiana Congresswoman Victorious Sparts. Massy's primary opponent, ed gallery
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- 40:50Speaker 1: Tonight, with less than a week until the Kentucky primary,
- 40:54Speaker 1: a new poll suggests that the race for the fourth
- 40:57Speaker 1: congressional district is turning into a political earthquake. According to
- 41:02Speaker 1: Quantus Insights, the challenger Ed Gallering has surged and is
- 41:07Speaker 1: now leading in the polls over the incumbent representative Thomas
- 41:11Speaker 1: Massey by about five points, possibly even more, placing Massey
- 41:17Speaker 1: in a dangerous spot of possibly losing that seat. The
- 41:20Speaker 1: shift follows a personal visit from Donald Trump and over
- 41:24Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars in this campaign being spent it's
- 41:27Speaker 1: a big one, folks. While Massey holding strong with men
- 41:31Speaker 1: and younger voters, Gallery's momentum is being fueled by a
- 41:35Speaker 1: commanding lead among women and older conservative voters. Now, as
- 41:41Speaker 1: y'all know out there, and I've had him on the
- 41:42Speaker 1: program before, Congressman Massey built his brand over the last
- 41:46Speaker 1: year on transparency and.
- 41:48Speaker 2: On getting to the bottom of the Epstein files.
- 41:51Speaker 1: But as I told you last night, there is now
- 41:54Speaker 1: a new bombshell report and others are talking about it.
- 41:58Speaker 1: Axios suggest there is a different story of what went
- 42:02Speaker 1: on about a year and a half ago when it
- 42:04Speaker 1: comes to Thomas Massey, Indiana Congresswoman Victorious Parts and an
- 42:09Speaker 1: ex girlfriend of Massey's, Cynthia West. Massey's x claims the
- 42:14Speaker 1: representative tried to buy her silence with five thousand dollars,
- 42:20Speaker 1: and then when she made a complaint to the Ethics
- 42:23Speaker 1: Committee in Congress while she was working for the Indiana congresswoman,
- 42:28Speaker 1: she claims there was a sixty thousand dollars settlement offered
- 42:31Speaker 1: to her to go away as long as she signed
- 42:35Speaker 1: an NDA well. West alleges that before the settlement offer,
- 42:42Speaker 1: Massey offered her five thousand dollars to just walk, as
- 42:45Speaker 1: I said, telling her again this is in Cynthia's words,
- 42:49Speaker 1: she was just one person and that she wouldn't be
- 42:52Speaker 1: making a difference.
- 42:53Speaker 2: Well, Wes claims.
- 42:55Speaker 1: She didn't take the five k for Massey, she didn't
- 42:57Speaker 1: take the sixty k from Congress, and she didn't sign
- 43:01Speaker 1: the NDA, and that she would not be going away
- 43:04Speaker 1: quietly and why well she had dated this man.
- 43:09Speaker 2: No one denies that.
- 43:10Speaker 1: And Massey has said he is a champion for victims' rights,
- 43:14Speaker 1: he set it in public for years. Yet according to
- 43:17Speaker 1: this woman, there was cash possibly used to silence her. Now,
- 43:22Speaker 1: how is that when it comes to transparency? Now, a
- 43:26Speaker 1: lot of folks have made a lot about this over
- 43:28Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours, claiming, look at the timing,
- 43:30Speaker 1: it just happened within a week of the primary. Somebody's
- 43:33Speaker 1: up to this. Maybe it's the other side that's running
- 43:35Speaker 1: against him. Maybe it's the Jews, maybe it's Donald Trump
- 43:38Speaker 1: and his rich friends. Well, this didn't just happen yesterday.
- 43:43Speaker 1: Miss West, who I spoke to on the phone yesterday
- 43:46Speaker 1: at length, blasted mister Massey last year on social media
- 43:51Speaker 1: when he came out and was pushing for the Epstein
- 43:54Speaker 1: file release. And pretty much got into a tit for
- 43:56Speaker 1: tat with President Trump. This was the post because the
- 44:00Speaker 1: Internet don't lie and you can't hide it.
- 44:03Speaker 2: He wrote.
- 44:03Speaker 1: We have two hundred and seventeen of two hundred eighteen
- 44:05Speaker 1: savisors required. We just need one more Congressman to sign
- 44:08Speaker 1: the discharge petition in order to force a vote in
- 44:10Speaker 1: the House on a bill to release the Epstein files.
- 44:13Speaker 2: Here's the key, folks, Victims deserve justice.
- 44:15Speaker 1: And Americans demand transparency, in which, as you can see
- 44:19Speaker 1: on your screen. Miss West replied, I thought one person
- 44:22Speaker 1: couldn't make a difference and that victims to just walk away?
- 44:26Speaker 2: Or was that just for me?
- 44:27Speaker 1: And yet you speak of transparency. I guess that all
- 44:30Speaker 1: depends on how inconvenient it is for you. I'm glad
- 44:34Speaker 1: I didn't take your money. Notice the date, folks, That
- 44:39Speaker 1: was last September, not yesterday. Earlier today, mister Massey posted
- 44:45Speaker 1: this message. It is sad that a week before this election,
- 44:48Speaker 1: people are making false and obstentiated allegations about me and
- 44:51Speaker 1: an obvious attempt to influence the outcome of this election.
- 44:54Speaker 1: All of the claims of inappropriate conduct are false. I
- 44:58Speaker 1: never offered any money in exchange for their silence. I
- 45:00Speaker 1: report all of my farm income, including cash, to the irs.
- 45:04Speaker 2: There are no.
- 45:05Speaker 1: Ethics claims filed against me, nor have there ever been
- 45:08Speaker 1: any claims filed against me and my fourteen years in office.
- 45:11Speaker 1: I have consulted legal counsel and we are considering all options.
- 45:15Speaker 1: So again it's a little tip for tet back and forth,
- 45:20Speaker 1: who's telling the truth. Bottom line is the polls show
- 45:23Speaker 1: that Ed is now leading, and it's not because of
- 45:27Speaker 1: this last minute bombshell from Miss West because the poles
- 45:31Speaker 1: were done before this news came out. So let's talk
- 45:36Speaker 1: about the issues with our next guest joining me now
- 45:39Speaker 1: to talk about his bid for Kentucky's fourth congressional district.
- 45:42Speaker 1: Retired Navy seal, Kentucky farmer and the Trump endorsed candidate
- 45:45Speaker 1: in this race, Ed Gallray, back on Real America, ED.
- 45:50Speaker 2: Nice to see you again. How you been, sir Dan,
- 45:53Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on.
- 45:54Speaker 10: Well, we're navigating this caddy wampus weather on the farm,
- 45:57Speaker 10: trying to get the hay in, but it comes with
- 45:58Speaker 10: the territory. So thank you for having me on, and
- 46:01Speaker 10: hello to the viewers.
- 46:02Speaker 2: I love that you were out there on the campaign. Trail.
- 46:05Speaker 2: But I remember last time you were on.
- 46:07Speaker 1: You operate a large farm, so you're out there kicking
- 46:10Speaker 1: but in the fields while you're out trying to shake
- 46:12Speaker 1: hands and kiss babies.
- 46:13Speaker 2: How's that going.
- 46:15Speaker 10: Well, you just got it. You got to balance it
- 46:17Speaker 10: all and another farm. Farmers are accustomed to that. Again,
- 46:20Speaker 10: farm is a business. It's just an undefined term. Typically
- 46:23Speaker 10: your first of production agriculture, and we've been farming in
- 46:26Speaker 10: Kentucky for over one hundred years. It's just what you do.
- 46:28Speaker 10: It comes with the territory and all that campaign. And
- 46:31Speaker 10: really I enjoyed it's meeting people, seeing what's on their
- 46:33Speaker 10: mind and seeing how I can help them. And the
- 46:36Speaker 10: same way I served, as you know, for a career
- 46:38Speaker 10: span in three decades as an active duty Navy Seal
- 46:41Speaker 10: officer and an Army ranger twice a Sealed Team six.
- 46:44Speaker 10: The serve these good people. I enjoy that. I love
- 46:46Speaker 10: hearing what's on their mind. And thank you for that
- 46:49Speaker 10: introduction there. You illuminated a lot of things I didn't
- 46:51Speaker 10: know about because I've been out on the farm all
- 46:53Speaker 10: day and I had to come in and change my
- 46:54Speaker 10: shirt put my jacket on for your TV show.
- 46:57Speaker 1: Well, that's okay, And I know that it's probably some
- 47:00Speaker 1: that you didn't want to get in the weeds on
- 47:02Speaker 1: because this is an issue between miss West Congressman Sparts
- 47:06Speaker 1: and Congressman Massy.
- 47:07Speaker 2: Will it affect the race with a week to go?
- 47:09Speaker 1: Possibly, But again I said at the beginning, the polls
- 47:13Speaker 1: were conducted before this bombshell dropped. What do you attribute
- 47:18Speaker 1: your recent gain by over five points? It appears over
- 47:21Speaker 1: Thomas in the polls.
- 47:24Speaker 10: Well, a couple of things. I don't think it was
- 47:25Speaker 10: a gain at all. I think finally they're hearing from
- 47:28Speaker 10: folks here in Kentucky. Typically the dynamic is hold about
- 47:31Speaker 10: thirty days out, folks that are getting along with their lives,
- 47:34Speaker 10: raising their kids, running their businesses, you know, going to
- 47:37Speaker 10: church and doing what we do in life. About thirty
- 47:39Speaker 10: days out, they start paying attention. They know they got
- 47:41Speaker 10: to make a good decision, sort of like Christmas shopping.
- 47:45Speaker 10: I'm a last minute guy, don't judge, okay, but all
- 47:48Speaker 10: that to say, what you're really seeing is the sentiment
- 47:50Speaker 10: that was always there this district. He's twenty one County's
- 47:54Speaker 10: voted for President Trump and his agenda America First. And
- 47:57Speaker 10: I had a Kentucky always and the President really life that,
- 48:01Speaker 10: but they voted for that for north of eighty percent.
- 48:04Speaker 10: So what you're seeing is really the manifestation of what
- 48:06Speaker 10: they're expecting all along. But there's another element here. For
- 48:09Speaker 10: the first time ever, Tam Massey's being exposed. He's had
- 48:13Speaker 10: an endless supply of the gas for the gas light
- 48:16Speaker 10: from the from the Democratic radicals in AOC and the
- 48:19Speaker 10: squad from mainstream media, and now it's being exposed because
- 48:24Speaker 10: we've been able to turn the lights on because sunlights
- 48:28Speaker 10: as a level transparency. Now it's a couple of things
- 48:30Speaker 10: I wanted to comment on that you mentioned there, just
- 48:33Speaker 10: an observation. If Pucker's who is the crime, he'd be
- 48:36Speaker 10: getting packed in a trooper vehicle going to Eddieville State
- 48:38Speaker 10: Prison here in Kentucky. And this good thing he's got
- 48:41Speaker 10: double standards, he'd have none at all. So all that
- 48:44Speaker 10: to say, these people this district deserve But with just
- 48:47Speaker 10: a little bit you told me, and his answer to
- 48:50Speaker 10: the people that sent him to Washington as our champion,
- 48:53Speaker 10: I'm going to quote a hero mind Shane Shane Shamee.
- 48:58Speaker 10: Oh my goodness, all that I have to say, there's
- 49:00Speaker 10: another piece that's between the lord and the law as well.
- 49:03Speaker 10: What's going on there, So the folks of this district
- 49:06Speaker 10: are owed a straight answer. And to your point, that
- 49:09Speaker 10: needs to run its course and give that lady her
- 49:12Speaker 10: due time. That young lady heard due time in this
- 49:14Speaker 10: and that was interesting what she pointed out. Hey, one
- 49:17Speaker 10: other thing about that, Sue, I'm going to take offense
- 49:19Speaker 10: with some of the journalists out there. I heard they
- 49:22Speaker 10: called that payoff money cow money. Well that's a derogatory
- 49:25Speaker 10: trust cattle farmers. So should we nip that in the bud.
- 49:29Speaker 10: We don't remember the Cattleman's Association. We just don't like
- 49:32Speaker 10: that language being thrown around. It makes us to look
- 49:34Speaker 10: a little sketchy, and we're not. We would never do
- 49:38Speaker 10: something like that, but it looks like that's the way
- 49:39Speaker 10: he rolls, and these people deserve better, and I'm gonna
- 49:41Speaker 10: give it to him.
- 49:42Speaker 1: Well, in her defense, when I spoke with her off camera,
- 49:45Speaker 1: she had said that before their breakup, when they were
- 49:49Speaker 1: dating seriously, he had bragged about cow money, meaning some
- 49:54Speaker 1: of the cow sales from his farm he didn't allegedly
- 49:57Speaker 1: always report and kept a lot of cash on hand,
- 50:00Speaker 1: And that was what she said she witnessed and what
- 50:02Speaker 1: he said. Again, this is a tip for tat ex girlfriend,
- 50:06Speaker 1: ex boyfriend. I get all that there's always bad blood.
- 50:09Speaker 1: But again Axios is reporting me talking with her, looking
- 50:13Speaker 1: at the dates of the tweets where she called him
- 50:15Speaker 1: out a year ago. Again, here's my thing, Ed, And
- 50:18Speaker 1: let me just get you on the record that attorney
- 50:20Speaker 1: that she did her deposition with yesterday in Kentucky did
- 50:24Speaker 1: run against Thomas, I think back in twelve So people
- 50:26Speaker 1: are saying always probably connected to your campaign and this
- 50:29Speaker 1: was all set up. She's on the record saying she's
- 50:32Speaker 1: never been in touch with you or that attorney or anyone.
- 50:35Speaker 1: She traveled to Kentucky and did the deposition all her
- 50:37Speaker 1: own accord, and she just wanted to have her voice heard. Now, Ed,
- 50:39Speaker 1: I believe two things can be true. That attorney might
- 50:42Speaker 1: want to nail Thomas, so he called her up and
- 50:44Speaker 1: said let's do this a week before. That could be true,
- 50:47Speaker 1: but she could be telling the truth. That doesn't mean
- 50:50Speaker 1: she's in bed with him or your campaign or anybody.
- 50:53Speaker 1: She just wanted to get her story out there. And
- 50:55Speaker 1: two things can be true at once. And I'll let
- 50:57Speaker 1: that one rest and give you the final word, exactly
- 51:00Speaker 1: right on it.
- 51:00Speaker 10: And I think was most telling is you pointed out
- 51:03Speaker 10: what she put for public view, what over year ago
- 51:07Speaker 10: thereabouts last September?
- 51:08Speaker 2: Last September.
- 51:09Speaker 10: Oh my goodness. I think the facts are stubborn things.
- 51:12Speaker 10: So we'll let them speak for their selves. But all
- 51:14Speaker 10: that was illuminating to me, which you just shared to me,
- 51:17Speaker 10: So thank you for going over that. And the people
- 51:18Speaker 10: need to know. We deserve better and I'm going to
- 51:21Speaker 10: give it to him, And it's just disappointing that's the
- 51:23Speaker 10: way he's going to end his so called career as
- 51:26Speaker 10: misrepresentative Massy in Washington. Reflecting on these twenty one counties.
- 51:31Speaker 10: Oh my lord, they deserve better.
- 51:33Speaker 1: Ed. If they want to learn more about your campaign,
- 51:35Speaker 1: I believe it is edgellain dot com.
- 51:37Speaker 10: Is that right, Ed, gallerindout dot com? Please go there.
- 51:41Speaker 10: You read about us, you know, And I can't thank
- 51:45Speaker 10: you enough for the support out there, folks. I'll be
- 51:47Speaker 10: your champion in Washington. You can count on that. I
- 51:49Speaker 10: will make you proud.
- 51:50Speaker 2: Well, I know the President's got your back, so I
- 51:53Speaker 2: got your back as well.
- 51:54Speaker 9: Ed.
- 51:54Speaker 2: Best of luck to you. We'll see what happens next week.
- 51:56Speaker 2: God blessed, take.
- 51:56Speaker 10: Care, Thank you out there to the patriots, God.
- 51:59Speaker 1: Bless ye and folks. That does it for a Wednesday
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