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The Kenny Report | 13 March · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 3: Electricity price is going up again, but Labor pretends that
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  Speaker 3: its energy transition is going smoothly, and they suggest it's
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  Speaker 3: actually the customers that are the real problem when it
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  Speaker 3: comes to costs. A government that's been soft on ISLAMUS terrorism,
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  Speaker 3: slow to stand up for Jews, and week on China
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  Speaker 3: suddenly gets fired up over a wombat. Five years on
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  Speaker 3: from the harsh COVID pandemic response, Claire Row will join
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  Speaker 3: us to talk about how it's young people who are
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  Speaker 3: still doing it hardest. Also Alexander down A, Gigi Foster,
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  Speaker 3: Lisa godarda, Mark Nicholson on Tariff's taxes and elections spending.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get cracking. They are sticking it to us again.
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  Speaker 3: Electricity prices are going up again. Rise will run close
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  Speaker 3: to ten percent for many customers. Labor is destroying our
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  Speaker 3: electricity grid, trying to turn it into some grand experiment
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  Speaker 3: of wind turbine installations, solar factories, offshore wind projects, big batteries,
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  Speaker 3: transmission lines, and even pumped hydro plans, all of it
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  Speaker 3: damaging to the environment, much of it opposed by local communities.
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  Speaker 1: Most of it delayed, all.
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  Speaker 3: Of it horrendously expensive, and the whole thing not up
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  Speaker 3: to the task of delivering reliable energy. And then they
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  Speaker 3: wonder why prices keep going up. The minister the absolute
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  Speaker 3: joke of a minister in charge of all this, Chris Bowen.
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  Speaker 3: He still reckons that the very transition that is causing these.
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  Speaker 1: Problems is also the way to fix it.
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  Speaker 4: But what hasn't changed is the fact that every bit
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  Speaker 4: of renewed energy you introduce puts down and pressure on prices.
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  Speaker 3: Really, the renewables push that is creating price hikes will
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  Speaker 3: also bring prices down.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that?
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  Speaker 3: What they say is the definition of insanity doing the
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  Speaker 3: same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
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  Speaker 3: Remember this is what Labor promised three years.
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  Speaker 5: Ago, reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars.
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  Speaker 4: Reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars.
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  Speaker 6: By twenty twenty five, two hundred and seventy five dollars
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  Speaker 6: a year.
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  Speaker 5: Two one hundred and seventy five dollars a year will get.
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  Speaker 6: Power prices down by two hundred and seventy five dollars
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  Speaker 6: a year.
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  Speaker 4: Two hundred and seventy five dollars for the average house
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  Speaker 4: lower in twenty twenty five than today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's well into twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 3: And now with this latest increase, instead of cutting prices
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  Speaker 3: by two hundred and seventy five dollars a year, the
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  Speaker 3: average bill would have gone up by eight hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 3: That's a turnaround of more than one thousand dollars. That's
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  Speaker 3: an election promise that's been broken about four times over.
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  Speaker 3: And the bloke in charge talks absolute nonsense like this.
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  Speaker 4: Shows the need to keep on going more than ever
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  Speaker 4: before with the plan to introduce more of the cheapest,
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  Speaker 4: most reliable form of energy for Australians, and that of
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  Speaker 4: course is renewable energy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you heard it right. He actually said that.
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  Speaker 3: Not only does he persist with this absolute garbage about
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  Speaker 3: renewables being the cheapest option, he also says they're the
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  Speaker 3: most reliable. This is extraordinary. Calling renewables reliable is like
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  Speaker 3: calling the sun cold. It's like calling Donald Trump shy.
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  Speaker 3: It's just the opposite of reality. Not even the most
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  Speaker 3: hard advocate for renewables would pretend that they're reliable. That's
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  Speaker 3: their main problem. The fact that they are intermittent and unreliable.
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  Speaker 3: That's what makes them expensive because you need two forms
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  Speaker 3: of generation, the renewables and something to replace them or
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  Speaker 3: back them up. No wonder the opposition leader is calling
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  Speaker 3: for Bowen's head now.
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  Speaker 6: Chris Bowen and Anthony Alberzi have presided over a broken
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  Speaker 6: promise of a two hundred and seventy five dollars electricity
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  Speaker 6: cut which was made on ninety seven occasions before the election,
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  Speaker 6: and now power bills have gone up by thirteen hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 6: Chris Bowen has been a disaster. He's one of the
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  Speaker 6: key players in the Albanzi government and he has let
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  Speaker 6: Australians down and this should be a price to pay
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  Speaker 6: for that. And frankly, today, if the Prime Minister doesn't
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  Speaker 6: sack Chris Bowen, I don't know when he would sack him,
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  Speaker 6: because he deserves to lose his job over forcing up
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  Speaker 6: the electricity prices of Australians yet again.
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  Speaker 1: But it gets even worse from Bowen.
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  Speaker 3: Apart from more price increases, apart from pretending renewables are cheap,
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  Speaker 3: from telling.
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  Speaker 1: The outright lie that they are reliable.
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  Speaker 3: Well, apart from all that, Bowen has put the onus
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  Speaker 3: for cheaper electricity bills back onto consumers. Yeah, he reckons,
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  Speaker 3: it's your problem because you're not shopping around enough.
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  Speaker 4: Did you know that eighty one percent of Australians paying
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  Speaker 4: more for elecricy they need to because they're not on
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  Speaker 4: the best plan available. That's the data from the ageb seat.
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  Speaker 4: Our government is making it easier for you to switch providers.
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  Speaker 4: This website will help you find the best possible deal
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  Speaker 4: for somebody with your energy use. You can also take
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  Speaker 4: control by making sure you're the best offer and switching
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  Speaker 4: providers the.
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  Speaker 1: Goal of this blog.
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  Speaker 3: Just jump onto our fancy little website and everything will
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  Speaker 3: be okay.
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  Speaker 1: Well it's not okay.
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  Speaker 3: Power prices are skyrider getting and you promised to bring
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  Speaker 3: them down by two hundred and seventy five dollars a year.
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  Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, in the Port Stephens tourist region of New South Wales,
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  Speaker 3: where Bowen is going to impose a massive offshore wind
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  Speaker 3: turbine installation and locals are up in arms about it. Well,
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  Speaker 3: the minister didn't even bother turning up to a debate
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  Speaker 3: to put his case, and.
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  Speaker 7: The person with whom I was meant to be here
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  Speaker 7: tonight to have a good, thorough, comprehensive debate. Was this
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  Speaker 7: fellow here, the honorable Chris Bowen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is no laughing matter or right.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing hurts families, small businesses, industry and our general economic
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  Speaker 3: competitiveness quite as hard and wide as energy price increases.
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  Speaker 6: If we want to bring prices down, then for goodness sake,
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  Speaker 6: don't vote for Anthony Albernezi and the Greens at the
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  Speaker 6: next election, because prices will only skyrocket again. And the
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  Speaker 6: other thing I think that's worth pointing out is that
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  Speaker 6: the twenty thirty five target that.
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  Speaker 1: The government has the modeling on and they.
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  Speaker 6: Refuse to release this secret report, indicates that electricity prices
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  Speaker 6: are going to go higher under this government. And I
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  Speaker 6: think if people are struggling at the moment, three more
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  Speaker 6: years of labor will not only cripple the economy, it
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  Speaker 6: will also make it much harder for families and small businesses.
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  Speaker 6: So there is a much better way to get our
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  Speaker 6: country back on track, and that's exactly what we intend
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  Speaker 6: to do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be a cost of living election, all right,
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  Speaker 3: and labor will keep delivering electricity price increases as they
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  Speaker 3: chase a net zero dream that will do nothing for
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  Speaker 3: the environment, because global emissions are still growing strongly.
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  Speaker 1: Yet labor opposes nuclear.
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  Speaker 3: The one proven, reliable and affordable source of emissions free electricity.
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  Speaker 3: This national energy self harm is as idiotic as it
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  Speaker 3: is scandalous. It's hurting this country every day and will
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  Speaker 3: do so for years to come. Yet bizarrely, it's the
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  Speaker 3: main obsession of labor, the greens, and the tills. I
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  Speaker 3: wonder if any of them Cannet explain why. Now let
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  Speaker 3: me show you how this country. Our government for sure,
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  Speaker 3: but much of the media too, seem to have pretty
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  Speaker 3: warped priorities. This is the story of an American visitor,
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  Speaker 3: one of those so called influencer types, who grabbed a
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  Speaker 3: baby wombat and posted this video.
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  Speaker 1: Look at the mother. It's like, oh, cheat it after.
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  Speaker 8: This.
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  Speaker 1: Now that woman is Sam Jones.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently it wasn't the smartest or nicest thing to do
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  Speaker 3: separate a young marsupial from its mother, but she did
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  Speaker 3: put it back straight away.
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  Speaker 1: So what do you reckon?
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  Speaker 3: The media might do highlight the video and note that
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  Speaker 3: you should leave wildlife alone and then move on. Nah,
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  Speaker 3: we've seen them all go into full outrage mode, the
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  Speaker 3: whole it's gone viral thing and demands for action.
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  Speaker 9: An American hunting influenza is under fire this morning after.
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  Speaker 4: She separated the baby wombat from its mother, filming the
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  Speaker 4: moment for her followers.
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  Speaker 1: Some people will find this video distressing.
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  Speaker 3: Good lord, Honestly, where you see wombats like that in
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  Speaker 3: the wild along those roads, you'll see fifty dead wombats
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  Speaker 3: run over by cars for everyone you're lucky enough to
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  Speaker 3: spot live. Yet we get this instant ramping up of
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  Speaker 3: outrage to warp fact ten. And before long this pathetic
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  Speaker 3: federal government of ours was weighing in the Foreign Minister
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  Speaker 3: no Less.
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  Speaker 10: I actually just saw that as I was sort of
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  Speaker 10: prepping for this interview, and it looked pretty dreadful, didn't it.
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  Speaker 10: I'll leave those sorts of questions to tiny Burke and
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  Speaker 10: to the authorities, but really leave the one but alone.
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  Speaker 1: I kid you not.
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  Speaker 3: You don't think they've got something else they could get
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  Speaker 3: active about. The Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke brought into
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  Speaker 3: the controversy and even declared that Jones's visa was being reviewed. Seriously,
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  Speaker 3: they're talking about deporting someone for picking up a wombat.
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  Speaker 1: Burke has suggested.
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  Speaker 3: She'll have a lot of trouble getting into the country
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  Speaker 3: next time. Now it turns out that Jones is a hunter,
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  Speaker 3: as you heard there, so I guess people think she's
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  Speaker 3: fair game.
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  Speaker 1: But the pylon is just ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: On one level, it's hilarious, of course, a government that
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  Speaker 3: can't stand up to China over live firing exercises deciding
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  Speaker 3: it can get all muscular against a tictop tourist who
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  Speaker 3: picked up a wombat, a government that's destroying our electricity
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  Speaker 3: grid lashing out at someone for cuddling a marsupial. But
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  Speaker 3: I've got to say it's a lot more sickening than that,
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  Speaker 3: because both Wong and Burke have been pathetic on the
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  Speaker 3: issue of Israel and its war against Hummas over the
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  Speaker 3: past year and a half, and the horrendous human toll.
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  Speaker 1: Of all of that.
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  Speaker 3: They've failed to quickly and adequately call out the rampant
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  Speaker 3: anti Semitism on our streets, the Muslim preachers celebrating the
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  Speaker 3: slaughter of innocent Israelis and the groups chanting f the
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  Speaker 3: Jews or where's the Jews on our streets? The Albanezi
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  Speaker 3: labour Govermnent has led in people from Gaza on tourism
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  Speaker 3: visas without proper security checks, while they've blocked the entry
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  Speaker 3: of a former Israeli minister. They've even been slow to
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  Speaker 3: cracked down on supporters of Hummas and Hesbelah coming back
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  Speaker 3: into Australia. Wom and Burke have failed to campaign day
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  Speaker 3: and night for the release of Israeli hostages held by Hummas.
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  Speaker 3: There are fifty nine still hell. They've shown far too
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  Speaker 3: little fortitude and empathy on these ongoing life and death issues,
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  Speaker 3: Yet suddenly they get all strident and indignant over a
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  Speaker 3: wombat cuddler. They threatened to deport a wombat cuddler. If
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't so tragically cold and heartless, it'd be hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: Perhaps what we need to see is the supporters of
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  Speaker 3: Hummas and Hesbalah go out and find some wombats.
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  Speaker 1: Then we'd see the government hard on their case.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go to the Shadow Resources Minister now, Susan McDonald
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  Speaker 3: joining us live from Brisbane. Thanks for joining us, Susan.
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  Speaker 3: First up, a more electricity price increases. It just seems
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  Speaker 3: unfathomable that a government would suggest more renewables is the answer.
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  Speaker 3: When it's the push to renewables that's causing the price increases.
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  Speaker 9: It's extraordinary, isn't it, Chris. It's really doubling down on
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  Speaker 9: this all eggs in one basket approach, and now with
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  Speaker 9: the thought that we will have to import gas into
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  Speaker 9: Australia because of the failures of this government to address
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  Speaker 9: the critical, the important matters first. I think this is
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  Speaker 9: an absolute disaster for Australians and it's thanks to labor
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  Speaker 9: that Australian's cost of living crisis is driving along ever
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  Speaker 9: harder and ever more impactful.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the problem is, of course that people are hurting
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  Speaker 3: so much that Labour spent three and a half billion
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  Speaker 3: dollars on electricity rebates. They're running out soon, so people
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  Speaker 3: are going to get stuck in the neck when they
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  Speaker 3: run out with an even bigger electricity price increase. Surely
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  Speaker 3: in this budget we're going to see Labour spending another
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  Speaker 3: three billion or so to try and keep these prices down.
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  Speaker 9: Well, we always knew that labor would be big spenders
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  Speaker 9: and big taxes, and that's what we're seeing more of.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, imagine taking your taxpayer dollars and then giving
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  Speaker 9: them back to you as energy price relief at the
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  Speaker 9: same time as driving up energy prices. This is the
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  Speaker 9: government that said, on ninety seven occasions, this was their
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  Speaker 9: signature election policy, they were going to reduce electricity prices
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  Speaker 9: by two hundred and seventy five dollars, and yet we're
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  Speaker 9: looking at one hundreds more dollars increase that's just been
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  Speaker 9: announced now. It is absolutely appalling and just another example
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  Speaker 9: of a government that really doesn't know what it's doing.
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  Speaker 9: It's floundering, it's weak, it's woke, it's wobbly need and
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  Speaker 9: we're seeing that it hit Australians in the hip pocket,
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  Speaker 9: in a country that has more coal, more gas, more
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  Speaker 9: uranium than most other nations on Earth. So it is
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  Speaker 9: absolutely unbelievable that we should be having an energy crisis
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  Speaker 9: in this country when we are so blessed with an
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  Speaker 9: abundance of all of these resources.
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  Speaker 3: Well, no one's going to build a new coal fired
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  Speaker 3: power station, and it's hard enough to keep the existing
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  Speaker 3: ones going when they know they're being forced out of existence.
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  Speaker 3: So obviously the answer is gas. We need more gas
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  Speaker 3: fired generation, regardless of.
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  Speaker 1: What happens with renewables or nuclear.
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  Speaker 3: How quickly can you get more gas fired generation into
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  Speaker 3: the system and extract more gas from around the country
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  Speaker 3: because there's stacks.
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  Speaker 1: Of it here.
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  Speaker 3: We're the biggest exporter, one of the biggest exporters in
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  Speaker 3: the world. How quickly can you get that done so
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  Speaker 3: that prices can come down?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I would just point to our track record
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  Speaker 9: that after the ADGSM was introduced in twenty sixteen, we
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  Speaker 9: saw our companies go to the bastrait, go to the
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  Speaker 9: places where it's one hundred percent domestic use of gas
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  Speaker 9: to start new projects. And what's happened. Will They have
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  Speaker 9: seen delayed approvals, They have seen approvals sit on the
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  Speaker 9: minister's desk for nearly a year. We're seeing more employees
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  Speaker 9: go into the approvals process, more government bureaucrats, slow processes.
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  Speaker 9: So we know that there are there are projects in
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  Speaker 9: Victoria and offshore in Victoria that can come online, but
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  Speaker 9: there needs to be a sense of urgency and we're
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  Speaker 9: not seeing that from this Sure, we're seeing them talk
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  Speaker 9: down gas. We're seeing them say that they want to
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  Speaker 9: see less gas because will that will stop people investing
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  Speaker 9: in wind and solar?
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's insane, It is insane.
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  Speaker 3: It drives me nuts every day it's national self harm
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  Speaker 3: on a grand scale.
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  Speaker 1: We'll keep on it.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to get you quickly on the tariffs
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  Speaker 3: of Australia missing out on that exemption for the steel
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  Speaker 3: tariffs from Donald Trump. Have a look at this clip
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  Speaker 3: where we find out that Penny Wong only learned of
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  Speaker 3: this basically through the media.
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  Speaker 11: Did you find out about this through the President's press
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  Speaker 11: secretary yesterday.
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  Speaker 10: Long with the rest of the world. Well, that was
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  Speaker 10: when I first heard confirmation of the reports.
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  Speaker 1: This extraordinary.
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  Speaker 3: She's the foreign minister and she finds out about this
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  Speaker 3: through television.
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  Speaker 9: Well, Chris, this is an example of a government that
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  Speaker 9: doesn't respect democracy. When the Coalition was in government prefore
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  Speaker 9: the change over to President Trump the last time, they
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  Speaker 9: had built relationships with both sides, both the Democrats and
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  Speaker 9: the Republicans, to ensure that Australia was well informed with
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  Speaker 9: what was the needs and sensitive points for an incoming government.
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  Speaker 9: But what we've discovered is that the ambassador is not
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  Speaker 9: Australia's man in Washington. He's a Labour's man in Washington.
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  Speaker 9: He did not know what the sensitivities were for this
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  Speaker 9: incoming administration to have communicated it back to this government.
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  Speaker 9: So this is a failure of the Prime minister's judgment
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  Speaker 9: on appointing the ambassador. And so in the last week
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  Speaker 9: we saw Chinese warships in our waters, we saw the
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  Speaker 9: President not taking a call from our Prime minister, and
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  Speaker 9: at the same time one of our greatest trading allies
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  Speaker 9: in Japan warning us that they would be looking to
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  Speaker 9: us and others.
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  Speaker 1: So the culture supplies.
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  Speaker 3: So if the Coalition were to form government after the election,
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  Speaker 3: quick smart, Kevin Rudd would be called back and you'd
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  Speaker 3: send Scott Morrison to Washington.
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  Speaker 9: Look, I can't talk to you about who the ambassador
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  Speaker 9: to the US would be, but I can tell you
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  Speaker 9: that previous foreign ministers, like Julie Bishop, like the ambassadors
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  Speaker 9: that we've had previously, they had relationships, we were able
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  Speaker 9: to negotiate with their partners.
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  Speaker 3: Susan, thanks for joining us, Susan McDonald's shadow Resources minister.
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  Speaker 3: Does sound like Kevin Rudd will be for the heave ho,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't it. Now let's get back to matter's economic on
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  Speaker 3: a broader scale, And of course, with an election in
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  Speaker 3: the offering and now a budget on the eve of
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  Speaker 3: the election campaign, we're seeing lots of additional spending from
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  Speaker 3: Anthony Aberneze. You have a look at this little summary
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  Speaker 3: of what he's announced just this year.
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  Speaker 5: A seven point two billion dollar announcement today to as
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  Speaker 5: with the Bruce Highway, an equity injection of three billion
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  Speaker 5: dollars into the NBN, two billion dollars to supercharge Australia's
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  Speaker 5: aluminium industry, to support jobs in Wyala. It's why we're
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  Speaker 5: investing two billion dollars seven billion dollars to build Melbourne
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  Speaker 5: Airport rail an eight point five billion dollar commitment to
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  Speaker 5: deliver stronger medicare, a four point eight billion dollar injection
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  Speaker 5: from the Conworth into New South Wales public schools. Investing
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  Speaker 5: one billion dollars to preserve land corridors.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that last one was just this morning in Western Sydney.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go to Gg Foster from the new University of
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  Speaker 3: New South Wales. She's an economics professor there. Good to
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  Speaker 3: talk to you again, Gg. Look, with it a budget
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  Speaker 3: less than a fortnight away, most of that would be
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  Speaker 3: better down now. But do you think with the election
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  Speaker 3: in the offing after they didn't expect to have to
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  Speaker 3: deliver a budget live, but will be putting even more
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  Speaker 3: spending into that program.
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  Speaker 9: I suspect.
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  Speaker 12: So, I mean, most of the policies that you just
• 20:09
  Speaker 12: had there on the telly were about infrastructure or other
• 20:13
  Speaker 12: kinds of group related investments rather than the typical handouts
• 20:16
  Speaker 12: to the consumer that governments, particularly labor governments, like to
• 20:20
  Speaker 12: give in order to prove that they're on the side
• 20:23
  Speaker 12: of the battlers. So what I expect in this budget is,
• 20:25
  Speaker 12: you know, as you say, they probably can't undo that
• 20:27
  Speaker 12: infrastructure spending commitment suite, but they'll probably also try to
• 20:31
  Speaker 12: get over the lines some particularly energy related extensions of subsidies,
• 20:37
  Speaker 12: perhaps something on childcare expenditures, perhaps something on prescription drug costs,
• 20:42
  Speaker 12: things like this that they can spin as essentially helping
• 20:45
  Speaker 12: consumers with cost of living relief without really addressing structural
• 20:49
  Speaker 12: problems in the economy or addressing the fact that the
• 20:51
  Speaker 12: government itself sometimes is responsible for productivity, sluggishness or lack
• 20:58
  Speaker 12: of really robust growth. And so that really is an
• 21:01
  Speaker 12: area that Australians are not used to hearing about because
• 21:04
  Speaker 12: the government never admits it. But I think it's an
• 21:06
  Speaker 12: area that they could profitably ask some questions about do
• 21:09
  Speaker 12: we really need so many bureaucrats in Canberra? So many
• 21:13
  Speaker 12: interventions into our marketplaces by the government.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Well, the government delabor.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Goverment loves all those extra bureaucrats because they joined the
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: public sector unions and they tend to vote labor.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: It's as simple as that.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: They sort of stock up their stock up their support.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: But tell us about energy. I'm certain they'll come up
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: with another energy rebate, probably replicate it for another year,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: another three and a half billion dollars. But explain to
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: me how it makes sense for government policies to drive
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: up electricity prices and then borrow more money from a
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: deficit budget, borrow more money to hand out to people
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: to compensate for the prices they've forced up.
• 21:50
  Speaker 12: All of that in a country that, as you say
• 21:53
  Speaker 12: very correctly, is one of the world leaders in producing
• 21:56
  Speaker 12: and having natural resources. I mean, it is absolutely insane.
• 21:59
  Speaker 12: And I think the reason this gets over the line
• 22:01
  Speaker 12: and can be sold to people at all is because
• 22:04
  Speaker 12: people in this country really have a low level of
• 22:06
  Speaker 12: economic literacy. They do not understand the way in which
• 22:10
  Speaker 12: markets work and the two timing that they are being
• 22:14
  Speaker 12: subjected to. And it's I mean, it's very interesting to
• 22:17
  Speaker 12: see the rhetoric because, as you heard, the labor government
• 22:22
  Speaker 12: is basically describing now the most unreliable forms of energy
• 22:25
  Speaker 12: as reliable. I think they've taken a leaf out of
• 22:27
  Speaker 12: the playbook of the sane energy policy commentators who are saying, look,
• 22:32
  Speaker 12: there's a problem with reliability, and as usual, there's just
• 22:36
  Speaker 12: a reversal. It's this Orwellian reversal whereby terms start to
• 22:41
  Speaker 12: mean nothing like what they used to mean. Reliable doesn't
• 22:44
  Speaker 12: mean the same thing to me as it seems to
• 22:46
  Speaker 12: mean to the Energy minister.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Well, exactly, it is classically Orwellian.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: It's war is paced, ignorance is strength, decide that renewables
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: are the cheapest, and certainly renewables are reliable. It is
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: literally insane and that's the stuff that's coming out of
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: their mouths, and some many arms of the media just.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Parrot that and think it's okay.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: I want to get your thoughts away from the politics
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: of this, just the economics of it. What is the
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: damage to Australia of the steel and aluminium tariff and
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: if that is not severe, what are the fears of
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: broader tariffs perhaps perhaps touching on some of our agricultural exports.
• 23:25
  Speaker 12: Yeah, so people are making a big deal about these
• 23:28
  Speaker 12: tariffs on Australian steel and aluminium going to the US.
• 23:31
  Speaker 12: But if you look at what fraction of our exports
• 23:33
  Speaker 12: to the United States, or our exports in general, those
• 23:36
  Speaker 12: exports account for, it's quite small. Something like ten percent
• 23:40
  Speaker 12: of the maybe eleven percent of our total exports are
• 23:43
  Speaker 12: going to the US in the form of steel and aluminium,
• 23:46
  Speaker 12: so it's not much. We export a lot of services,
• 23:48
  Speaker 12: financial services, and of course, as you say, agricultural products
• 23:52
  Speaker 12: like meat and other things that grow in our beautiful country.
• 23:56
  Speaker 12: So that actually the impact I don't see as being severe,
• 24:00
  Speaker 12: particularly because we have another obvious market for our steel
• 24:03
  Speaker 12: and aluminium and what's that China, zero import tariff China.
• 24:08
  Speaker 12: So as long as that keeps going, and of course
• 24:10
  Speaker 12: we've had some rockiness in the real estate sector in
• 24:13
  Speaker 12: China in the last couple of years and people were
• 24:16
  Speaker 12: predicting quite a large tanking, and continuing tanking doesn't seem
• 24:20
  Speaker 12: to be quite as bad as some were predicting. So
• 24:23
  Speaker 12: if that market continues to go, I mean, that is
• 24:25
  Speaker 12: the market that is much more likely to impact Australia's
• 24:28
  Speaker 12: quality of life than tariffs from the US.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Just stay there. Because while we've been speaking.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Anthony Albanesi has been giving a media conference in Perth
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: this afternoon and we haven't been able to bring it
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: to you live, but here's what he had to say
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: about the lightest increase in electricity process.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: Really, the Australia is not separate from world movements, and
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: what we've seen is substantial world movements in energy process
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: as a direct result that the long tail of OVID
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: and supply chain issues, but also of the Russian invasion
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: of Ukraine that has seen enormous spikes.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Ggi Foster, he's blaming our electricity prices on global factors.
• 25:12
  Speaker 12: Your assessment Australia has a get out of jail free card,
• 25:17
  Speaker 12: which is that we're sitting on huge gas reserves. Why
• 25:21
  Speaker 12: aren't we using them?
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: That's it, yes, pretty straightforward question and the answer is
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: that nobody knows. Thanks for joining us, GGI. I appreciate
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Gigi Foster, the economics professor.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: At the University of New South Wales. We're going to
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: take a break.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: On the other side and talk about how children are
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: still facing mental health struggles five years down the track
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: from the COVID nineteen lockdowns.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Child psychologists clear row will join me.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: It's been five years now since the declaration of the
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: COVID nineteen pandemic, and from the very start here on
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: this program, talking to the experts, we said that school
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: closures were unnecessary and a bad idea and would lead
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: to mental health issues.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: The Adelaide Advertiser.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Has taken a look at this issue with some high
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: school graduates for a new video series. It's called Lockdown Kids,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: How to Break a Generation.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Have a look.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: I definitely struggled with loneliness during the lockdown.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: As a guy, you're not often picking up your phone
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: and calling your friends because you're struggling inter passing.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Relationships that we have in person and online are very different,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: and that connection wasn't the same.
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: I just felt really like isolated and anxious because I
• 26:36
  Speaker 10: couldn't see anyone.
• 26:38
  Speaker 13: A lot of my thoughts were just like feeling very stuck,
• 26:42
  Speaker 13: you can't really do anything or get out, or feeling
• 26:44
  Speaker 13: very alone.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Let's go to child and adolescent psychologists. Claire row Good
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: to talk to you again. C Look, the pandemic was
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: declared five years ago. Obviously the lockdowns went a lot
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: longer than that, but we've been.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: A good couple of years of it. Should these people
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: still be troubled.
• 27:03
  Speaker 11: Yeah, well it's a really good question, Chris. This data
• 27:08
  Speaker 11: coming from the Advertiser, though, is pretty damning. It's like
• 27:11
  Speaker 11: something like three out of four kids in Melbourne will
• 27:14
  Speaker 11: experience significant depression and anxiety before they're eighteen. I mean
• 27:20
  Speaker 11: that is appalling. We're in a first world country like Australia.
• 27:24
  Speaker 11: At the time, you and I talked about this extensively
• 27:27
  Speaker 11: during lockdowns and warned that keeping kids away from friends
• 27:30
  Speaker 11: and sports and school would have long lasting detrimental effects,
• 27:35
  Speaker 11: and it did. There are kids that have not recovered.
• 27:37
  Speaker 11: That's absolutely true. I see it every day at work.
• 27:40
  Speaker 11: There are kids that never really socialized like they did
• 27:43
  Speaker 11: prior to twenty twenty. They never returned to school. The
• 27:47
  Speaker 11: rates of school dropout were massive. There are still lingering
• 27:51
  Speaker 11: effects of this poor mental health. But here's the thing, Chris,
• 27:54
  Speaker 11: I want to say, Whilst I think these lockdowns were
• 27:57
  Speaker 11: completely unnecessary and they were harmful, I am just wondering
• 28:02
  Speaker 11: how long we can keep blaming COVID and the lockdowns
• 28:06
  Speaker 11: for mental health, and keep blaming every kind of single
• 28:09
  Speaker 11: little bit of anxiety or developmental problem, or know any
• 28:14
  Speaker 11: issue our children have on the pandemic and consequently make
• 28:19
  Speaker 11: accommodations for them, because that's what I see. I mean,
• 28:22
  Speaker 11: the lockdowns were devastating and disruptive, but our kids don't
• 28:27
  Speaker 11: actually need endless sympathy from us. They don't need adults
• 28:31
  Speaker 11: to constantly lower the bar for them. And I just
• 28:35
  Speaker 11: see kids where we're kind of continually talking about this
• 28:38
  Speaker 11: broken generation. And if you keep talking about them in
• 28:41
  Speaker 11: this way and not raising the bar and expecting more
• 28:45
  Speaker 11: of them, this is where the cycle of mental health
• 28:48
  Speaker 11: is really causing problems.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're spot on to remind everybody that you were
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: talking about this at the time extensively. We focused on
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: it day in and day out, So it's not the
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: wisdom of hindsight. Shouldn't have been done to our kids
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: at the time, and our adults and our teenagers. These
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: lockdowns were terrible and as you say, did a lot
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: of damage that we haven't even spoken about education, the
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: setbacks that occurred in education. But what you're saying now,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: of course, is you can't change that, and it's pointless
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: looking back on that and winging about that and saying
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: you're a victim of that. The thing to do is
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: to move on in the here and now and find
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: some resilience.
• 29:25
  Speaker 11: Right, Yeah, absolutely, And kids are as adults are incredibly adaptive.
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: I always like to remind people that it is the
• 29:34
  Speaker 11: norm for the human condition to be resilient, not fragile. Right.
• 29:38
  Speaker 11: The norm is actually resilience. It has been through thousands
• 29:42
  Speaker 11: of years. And the problem is not that they just
• 29:45
  Speaker 11: experienced a very tough few years and so many of
• 29:49
  Speaker 11: them just never recovered from that. But now too many schools,
• 29:54
  Speaker 11: I think, are allowing avoidance techniques. And what these kids
• 29:58
  Speaker 11: need is to be really encouraged slash pushed by their
• 30:01
  Speaker 11: parents and their schools to get back to normal. And
• 30:04
  Speaker 11: that is the best thing for them.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, get into those socialized and social activities. Get back
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: into normal. That's the great advice for those young people now.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: But the other point, clear is we've got to learn
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: these lessons. Too many politicians and others wanting to move on.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: We've got to get some.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Guarantees that this won't be done so quickly and willingly again.
• 30:25
  Speaker 11: This can never happened again. We will not allow it.
• 30:28
  Speaker 11: I have faith in our communities also that if it
• 30:31
  Speaker 11: was ever tried again, we just need to stand up
• 30:34
  Speaker 11: and push back on that, but I agree in terms
• 30:36
  Speaker 11: of something formal, some type of formal outcomes, policymakers going
• 30:40
  Speaker 11: forward need to look at a guarantee the government will
• 30:43
  Speaker 11: never have that amount of control over us.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Again, great to talk to you again, Claire. Thanks very much,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Claire Roe. There, child and adolescent psychologists. We will go
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: to a break.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: We will catch up with some of the global issues
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: now with Donald Trump putting some pressure on Vladimir Putin
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: over Ukraine. Also, horrible, horrible situation unfolding in Syria, as
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: speak with Alexander Downa. At least a thousand people reportedly
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: have been killed in Syria after days of slaughter and
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: clashes between the security forces and loyalists of ousted president
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Basher al Assad.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Here's the lightest from the BBC.
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: An attack in broad daylight in Jebili, less than twenty
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: miles from Latakia. This town is home to the Alowite minority,
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: supporters of the former leader basherl Assad, whose regime was
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: toppled last December. The violence began after Asad loyalist ambushed
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: government forces on Thursday. Government supporters then arrived, and these
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: pictures are believed to show them fighting the Alloyites, and
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: estimated thousands Alloites have been killed, including women and children.
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: These killings have caused anger across the country, including in
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: the capital Damascus.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Let's get analysis from former Foreign Minister Alexander Downaho joins
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: me live from Adelaide.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Good to talk to you again, Alexander.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Apart from those reports of fighting, there's a lot of
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: reports of innocent women and children being slaughtered in cold
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: blood in Syria. What's going on here and what can
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: the international community do except stand back and watch.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 32:30
  Speaker 14: I think there's a very limited scope for the international community.
• 32:35
  Speaker 14: I noticed the Alla Whites, who are the tribe, the
• 32:39
  Speaker 14: people who supported President Sad. I noticed them calling for
• 32:45
  Speaker 14: the help of the Russians, but I think the Russians
• 32:48
  Speaker 14: might be preoccupied elsewhere. The truth is, this isn't a
• 32:53
  Speaker 14: country that really holds together very well, and we have
• 32:58
  Speaker 14: to be skeptical about the new regime that's come into
• 33:01
  Speaker 14: power there, given that it's made up of a lot
• 33:04
  Speaker 14: of people from Al Kaeda or another Islamic extremist groups.
• 33:09
  Speaker 14: But it is a very clannish, very tribal society, and
• 33:12
  Speaker 14: there's a very limited sense of nationhood and national unity there.
• 33:18
  Speaker 14: So it makes it, by any stretch of the emation imagination,
• 33:22
  Speaker 14: a hard country to run.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, shocking situation. Will keep an eye on that. But
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: you mentioned the Russians. I want to talk about Ukraine.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: We've all spoken about how Donald Trump's put so much
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: pressure on Vladimir Zelenski. He's now agreeing to a cease fire.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: It's a matter of getting Vladimir Putin to agree to
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: a cease fire on the Russian side, and Donald Trump's
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: starting to put pressure on Putin.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Have a look, there are things.
• 33:46
  Speaker 15: You could do that that wouldn't be pleasant in a
• 33:49
  Speaker 15: financial sense. I can do things financially that would be
• 33:52
  Speaker 15: very bad for Russia. I don't want to do that
• 33:54
  Speaker 15: because I want to get peace. I want to see
• 33:56
  Speaker 15: peace and we'll see. But in a financial sense, we
• 34:00
  Speaker 15: could do things very bad for Russia. Would be devastated
• 34:02
  Speaker 15: for Russia. But I don't want to do that because
• 34:04
  Speaker 15: I want to see peace.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the lightest from Donald Trump. What do you
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: expect to see unfold? Next to Alexander.
• 34:12
  Speaker 14: Well, I would say this of Donald Trump. I mean,
• 34:15
  Speaker 14: his methods are brutal, but let's be honest, they're likely
• 34:20
  Speaker 14: to be quite effective. I mean, he has got Zelenski
• 34:23
  Speaker 14: to agree to a cease fire, and that's been a
• 34:26
  Speaker 14: problem for the last couple of years, that Zelenski wouldn't
• 34:30
  Speaker 14: agree to a cease fire under any circumstances because he
• 34:34
  Speaker 14: wanted to take back that twenty percent of Ukraine that
• 34:38
  Speaker 14: the Russians have taken. But he has no capacity to
• 34:41
  Speaker 14: do that. So the war was panning out to be
• 34:44
  Speaker 14: an indefinite wars. So Trump has achieved that. I mean
• 34:49
  Speaker 14: the Russians. I think the Russians might agree to a
• 34:53
  Speaker 14: cease fire and there will be an indefinite negotiation over
• 34:59
  Speaker 14: a peace agreement, but it will probably never conclude. It
• 35:04
  Speaker 14: will be like the ceasefire on the Korean Peninsula in
• 35:07
  Speaker 14: the early nineteen fifties. There still listen to peace treaty
• 35:11
  Speaker 14: on the Korean Peninsula. I think it will be like that.
• 35:15
  Speaker 14: But I mean, I'm with Trump. I think it's important
• 35:18
  Speaker 14: to stop the killing. I mean, thousands of people are
• 35:21
  Speaker 14: being killed every week in that war. Maybe as many
• 35:26
  Speaker 14: as a million people have been killed since twenty fourteen
• 35:31
  Speaker 14: in Ukraine fighting between Russia and the Ukrainians, and whatever
• 35:37
  Speaker 14: the rights and wrongs of it all, it's just a
• 35:39
  Speaker 14: terrible bloodbath and it needs to end.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Just before we let you go, the tariffs kerfuffle between
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Australia and the US. What has Anthony Albanizi done wrong?
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: If anything, What should he do next?
• 35:55
  Speaker 14: Well, it would be a huge mistake for Australia to
• 36:01
  Speaker 14: do what the Canadians and the Europeans have done and
• 36:05
  Speaker 14: introduce retaliatory tariffs. That is just self harm. So Australia
• 36:11
  Speaker 14: should resist the temptation of sort of going feral, introducing
• 36:16
  Speaker 14: retaliatory tariffs and denouncing Trump, accusing him of bad faith
• 36:22
  Speaker 14: and so on. To be honest, Trump promised to do
• 36:26
  Speaker 14: all of this during the election campaign. Anyone who followed
• 36:30
  Speaker 14: the American presidential election campaign last year would know that
• 36:35
  Speaker 14: these tariffs were coming, and they're going to be universal.
• 36:39
  Speaker 14: There won't be a carve out. Of course, politically the
• 36:42
  Speaker 14: government Australian government will say it'll keep lobbying. But the
• 36:48
  Speaker 14: aluminum and steal tariffs only affect zero point two percent
• 36:53
  Speaker 14: of our trades, so they're not going to be devastating.
• 36:56
  Speaker 14: What would be bad would be if tariffs were introduced
• 36:59
  Speaker 14: on and be for some of our important agricultural exports
• 37:04
  Speaker 14: to the United States. That would be more that would
• 37:07
  Speaker 14: be more.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Problematic, Alexander.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us again, Alexander, down to that live
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: in Adelaide.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Let's go to our panel now.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: And Tim Blair is out of action this week, so
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: it's great to have Lisa Goddard from a Dony Media
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: step into the Breach joining us live from Brisbane. Good
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: evening to you, Lisa, and we've got Mark Nicholson of
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: course from step Mate's Studio Studios in Melbourne. Now I've
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: got to share something with you now. I talked at
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: the top of the program how no one condones the
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: grabbing of a baby wom bat and keeping it away
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: from its mother, although it was given back.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: But it's a silly thing to do. Sure, but the
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: hysteria over this and.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: The government threatening to deport someone is just embarrassing from
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: a government that doesn't seem to do security checks on
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: people from Gaza and doesn't you know, it's just it's insane.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: So just remind you as have look, this is what
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: the influence of Sam Jones.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Look at the mother, it's like, oh, Sea's an after
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: thank god, Okay, Mama's right, be all right.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Silly move, bad move if it's against the law prosecutor.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: YadA, YadA, YadA.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: But have her listen to just now in Perth in
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: the last few minutes, have her listen to what the
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Prime Minister said.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: To take a baby wombat from its mother and clearly
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: causing distress from the mother is just an outrage. And
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: you know, I suggest to this so called influencer, maybe
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: she might try some other Australian animals. Take a baby
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: crocodile from its mother and see how you go there.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: Take another animal that can actually fight back, rather than
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: stealing a baby wombat from its mother, See.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: How you go there. This is a bloke who couldn't
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: get angry at the Chinese who made all them the
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: excuses for the Chinese. This is a bloke who hadn't
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: even seen the footage of the way the Bebas family
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: had been treated by Hamas in the Middle Eastly so
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: this this bokes not never gets outraged about the important things,
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: but he's going bananas about a wombat.
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  Speaker 13: And so sincere as well, Chris, I watched that as
• 39:24
  Speaker 13: was just playing before we came back from ad break
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  Speaker 13: and couldn't believe that the Prime Minister is making this
• 39:29
  Speaker 13: what he is outraged about have a look around the country,
• 39:32
  Speaker 13: have a look at the cost of living crisis, have
• 39:33
  Speaker 13: a look at what's been announced about energy prices and
• 39:36
  Speaker 13: what we're about to be hit with. And this is
• 39:38
  Speaker 13: the issue that he wants to take an issue with
• 39:41
  Speaker 13: in a press conference. Yes, yes, it was the wrong
• 39:43
  Speaker 13: thing to do. Yes, there are people up in arms
• 39:45
  Speaker 13: about it. Whether the government should be deporting her or not.
• 39:47
  Speaker 13: There are other people I would suggest to they should
• 39:49
  Speaker 13: be looking at asationally deported from this country. Not exactly,
• 39:53
  Speaker 13: not an American influencer who was there and yes, did
• 39:56
  Speaker 13: the wrong thing. But for goodness sake, move on and
• 39:57
  Speaker 13: look at the big issues.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Marco could go.
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  Speaker 3: There's the Muslim preacher celebrating the slaughter of Israelis. There's
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: the mobs chanting if the Jews at the opera house.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: None of this stuff drew sharp words and passion and
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: anger and outrage from the Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 1: But the wombat does.
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  Speaker 2: Nah, this is perfect for him, mate, it's it's you can't,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: you can't be, you can't be for it.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: So like old what is it two way elbow?
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: You can't. And it still took him till this afternoon
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: to come out and be against it, by the way,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: and come out firmly and strong. Even Penny came out
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: this morning on Today Was and had very strong words
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: about it. Yet she hasn't ever spoken about anti Semitism
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: on the rise or anything like that. They just want
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: to ride the positive wave every time. They just want
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: to be with the majority of people. They're scared, they're terrified.
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  Speaker 2: It sums them up perfectly, mate, And your anger is
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: completely justified here because it's emblematic of their entire strategy.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I mean this to me. Listen, there you go on.
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  Speaker 13: I was going to say, Chris, this maybe something that
• 40:55
  Speaker 13: Tony Burke actually comes out and speaks about, because how
• 40:57
  Speaker 13: often has he just gone to ground? Do you actually
• 40:59
  Speaker 13: have serious questions?
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  Speaker 3: Well, this is a blug here that Tony Burker hasn't
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: deported any of these hate preachers.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: He hasn't stamped any of this stuff out.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: But now he's getting threatening to deport someone for cuddling
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: a wom bat. And I repeat, the wom bat was
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: given back to the mother. But when it comes to
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Albo Liza this, it's like he doesn't understand the world.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: It's like I don't know what to say about China.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: It's too scary. I make excuses for them. I don't
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: know what to say about Donald Trump. I don't know
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: what to say about Andie Semitism, so I just go
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: read some.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Talking points and am ah. But the one bat he.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Understands that, he gets that and he gets fired up
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: about it.
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  Speaker 13: Albert Chris. From a messaging perspective, it shows he has
• 41:37
  Speaker 13: a heart. You know that you've been sitting in these meetings.
• 41:40
  Speaker 13: You're not the key messaging would have been leading into that.
• 41:43
  Speaker 13: It's an opportunity to go out there and along with
• 41:45
  Speaker 13: the wedding plans. It shows you have a heart.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: It does my head in I tell you, I'll be
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: very interested to see what my great colleague and friend,
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Sharry Markson says about this last night, because she, like me,
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: has been absolutely outraged at the lack of concern and
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: passion over Andy Semitism and the like. Yet the wombat
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: gets him fired up. It's a fanatic, the wombat Digan.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about another issue that's going to be very
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: very difficult for people around the country, and that is
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: electricity prices. And here's our mate, the Climate Change and
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Energy Minister, Chris Bowen.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Shows the need to keep on going more than ever
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: before with the plan to introduce more of the cheapest,
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: most reliable form of energy for Australians, and that of
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: course is renewable energy.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you heard right there, Mark, He said that renewable
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: energy is reliable energy.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: The audacity of the man you could tell when he
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: saw that report this morning, nine percent increase to power bills.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: I hope he was wearing his brown jocks because that
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: would have been a horrible morning for him. And you
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: can tell he had a bad time with that press
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: conference because look.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: How sweaty hear is.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Get that man a wind turbine fast. He's poy he's dripping.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: We're worried about climate change, worried about Bowen's temperature increasing
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: by one percent and that's to be a national disaster.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Good, he's gracious. Get the man to drink.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: He's had play a red wine. Get him some water,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: calming down a little bit.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: He snuck out for an early press conference.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: He won't come onto a program like this and discuss
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: this stuff.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Peter Dutton was on DRIM today.
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: If the Prime Minister doesn't sack Chrispond, I don't know
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: when he would sack him, because he deserves to lose
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: his job over forcing up the electricity prices of Australians.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Yet again, Well, he's not going to be sacked or resigned, Lisa,
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: But is this a good call from Peter Dutton?
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Do you think it'll get a head not around the country.
• 43:34
  Speaker 13: I think it's already had a lot of head nods
• 43:36
  Speaker 13: around the country. He says it's a total failure. And
• 43:38
  Speaker 13: it is. And now, Chris, let's talk about Paul Murray,
• 43:41
  Speaker 13: one of our great mates. He always says it's the
• 43:43
  Speaker 13: Jedi mind trick. Right, So you've got Chris Bowen there saying,
• 43:47
  Speaker 13: you know, prices are coming down, it's reliable, it's affordable energy,
• 43:50
  Speaker 13: it's going to solve everything for us. Every time he
• 43:52
  Speaker 13: says that the reality is well, he doesn't want people
• 43:55
  Speaker 13: believing is what's in front of them on their electricity bills.
• 43:57
  Speaker 13: He's saying one thing the Jedi mind trick is believe
• 44:00
  Speaker 13: what your electricity bill says or what it's going to
• 44:02
  Speaker 13: say by July when these changes come in, because it's
• 44:04
  Speaker 13: basically a mandate to retailers to go out there and
• 44:07
  Speaker 13: push the prices up further.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: You know, I've seen Paul talk about the Jedi mind
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: trick so many times and I don't understand it because
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: I've never seen Star Wars, but I know everybody else does.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: I've better check with him after the show getting to
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: explain this one to me.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: It is just extraordinary. We've heard this presso that's been happening.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: While we're on air.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: In Perth, the Prime Minister was asked about electricity prices
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: there and here's what he had to say.
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: We understand that people are doing it tough and that's
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: why we're provided cost of living measures. Every single one
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: of those costs of living measures has been opposed by
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: Peter Dutton and the Coalition.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he understands that people are doing it tough, Mark,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: so he's borrowing more of our money to throw more
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: of our money back to us that he can get
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: back from us from our taxes.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: And I think it was Tucker Carson when he came
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: out to the country fort thinking to where he put
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: it really well, it's basically he outlined the dot points
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: of the whole thing and he's said anyone that's doing
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: this does not love you, and that is so so
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: evident here as well. I'm glad he I'm glad he
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: understands that we're all doing it tough.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: But can we talk.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: About the one bat police?
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Were you talking about?
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: The's more important?
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: It's doing it tough. Let's talk about the spending. Right,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: They've got this budget coming up in less than a fortnight.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Here's a quick is a very very easily digestible version
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: of what Anthony Arberaneze has spent just in the last
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: few weeks, just since.
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: New Year seven point two billion dollars, three billion dollars,
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: two billion dollars, seven billion dollars, two billion dollars, eight
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: point five billion dollar commitment, four point eight billion dollar,
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: one billion dollars.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: Now, Lisa, obviously he's trying to buy votes, But when
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: do we get to the stage where people realize the deficit, budgets, debt,
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: this is just good money going after bad.
• 46:03
  Speaker 13: But when do people realize that every time he hits
• 46:05
  Speaker 13: that hard b in billion, because we all know when
• 46:08
  Speaker 13: you make a big announcement, that's the figure you want
• 46:10
  Speaker 13: to hit. That's their money, it's taxpayer money. So if
• 46:13
  Speaker 13: you bring it right back to energy, all those subsidies,
• 46:16
  Speaker 13: it's coming out of our pocket at the end of
• 46:18
  Speaker 13: the day. And he's out there promoting, like you said,
• 46:21
  Speaker 13: number after number after number. They are enormous numbers, but
• 46:24
  Speaker 13: we are the ones that are paying for it. And
• 46:25
  Speaker 13: I just I hope that the Coalition run campaign ads
• 46:29
  Speaker 13: that actually clearly explain that to the Aussie tax payer,
• 46:32
  Speaker 13: because I don't think that's being that's hitting them hard
• 46:35
  Speaker 13: enough at home, thinking it's our money that's being spent,
• 46:38
  Speaker 13: not the messaging that's coming out of the government, which
• 46:41
  Speaker 13: is we're helping you, We're doing all this great spending,
• 46:43
  Speaker 13: we're helping you.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they should stop using the term billion and
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: get back to one thousand million dollars a thousand million
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: dollars every time they.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Say a billion.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Now, with all these big issues confronting the country, market's
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: very good to know that the Greens focused on the
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: big issues. They're still on about legalizing marijuana. They say
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: it's high time to legalize cannabis and they're one of
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: their set of David Schubridge is out to pushing, pushing this.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: This is a this will get the country back on track.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Why it marp.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah mate, yeah, yeah, yeah, Let's let's let's let's increase recreation.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: That's what we need. We need more recreation in the country.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: We don't need more productivity or people pulling in the
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: same direction.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Let's do that.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: I don't buy any of it, to be honest, and
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I know that they're doing it just because it's popular,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: because I was one of them once upon a time.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: I used to be punching kines and sitting down and
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: we can be.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: With fat and lazy and depression.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: And I did some things that I regret. I voted
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: for the Greens and it got nowhere. They took it
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: to the Senate. They let it drop. They do it
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: every time. It's so clear. But again, I just don't
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: think we need more recreation in this country. I think
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: we all need to pull ourselcks up and get fired
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: up and start pulling in the same direction. This is
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: a is a horrible thing for the country.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: It sure is a confession there from Martin Nicholson and
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: he did Inhale.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: He did in Haale.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Mark, and we'll catch you next time.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: That's all the time we got for you tonight. Now
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: we're going to take a short break. On the other
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: side of that. Caleb Bond in the chair for Peter Kredlin.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: I'll see you next week.