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Lunch with the Clydesdale - How Much are We All Being Influenced? · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  Why is it important that third party media
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  have access at events?
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  We're going to talk about that next.
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  I love the chase and the hunt.
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  And I set the pace when I'm running.
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  I always take what I want.
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  And I always give it one hundred.
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  Don't need a bank.
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  No, I'm funded.
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  Play the game like it's nothing.
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  I'm always thankful for something.
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  Don't take for granted.
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  Stay humble.
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  Now wake up.
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  It's time to look at the enemy.
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  Look in the mirror if he is no
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  friend to me.
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  It's not working out.
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  Maybe it's the chemistry.
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  It's time to break up so I can
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  make a better me.
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  E-M-M-E.
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  it's lunch time what is going on everybody
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  my mic was turned on for the opening
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  today so hopefully you guys all heard me
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  today
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  I hope so.
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  Yesterday was kind of a cluster and a
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  shit show and all of that stuff.
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  All wrapped into one is at the top,
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  but I think we had a good discussion.
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  So can't wait to break down some stuff
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  with you today.
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  Hope you all are having a great afternoon.
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  It is lunchtime,
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  lunchtime with the Clydesdale.
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  You guys all know that.
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  So this weekend,
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  I watched the Stuart Scott documentary on
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  ESPN.
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  It's titled Booyah.
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  For those of you who may be too
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  young,
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  Stuart Scott was a SportsCenter anchor in
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  the mid-nineties through twenty fifteen
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  ish.
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  his story is really, really incredible.
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  If you've not seen the thirty for thirty
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  documentary done on ESPN,
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  it is well worth the watch.
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  It is amazing what the man had had
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  gone through.
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  There were things that I learned about him
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  that I'd never knew when he and Rich
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  Eisen teamed up.
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  They were my favorite SportsCenter anchors
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  of all time.
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  I know that Dan Patrick and Keith Oberman
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  get a lot of press for saving
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  SportsCenter, being the SportsCenter guys.
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  But for me,
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  Stuart Scott and Rich Eisen were the team
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  that made it worth watching every single
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  night.
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  Um, through the nineties, I,
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  I watched them all the time.
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  My wife was sitting there watching it with
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  me going, oh my gosh,
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  I know them as well as you do
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  because you watch them all the time.
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  And I was forced to watch them all
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  the time.
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  Um,
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  if you don't know Stuart's story,
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  he fought his way onto the air.
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  Um,
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  it was not an easy journey for him
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  because he was very authentic to who he
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  was and that ruffled some people the wrong
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  way.
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  And, um,
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  He used pop culture references that not
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  everybody understood.
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  But there was definitely a segment of the
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  country that totally understood.
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  And he became more and more popular to
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  the point where it became inevitable that
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  they had to let him on the air.
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  And they were rewarded for allowing that
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  and pushing him.
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  He then...
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  Later in his career in the two in
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  the two thousand tens got he got
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  appendicitis cancer.
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  I don't know how else to describe it.
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  It was in the appendix.
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  He it was a routine thing where he
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  just started feeling an upset stomach,
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  went to the hospital.
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  ended up that he had cancer they removed
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  the appendix hoping that that would do it
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  it did not do it he lived about
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  five years with the cancer and then ended
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  up passing away in twenty fifteen so it's
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  been ten years since his passing
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  It's a great documentary to look back.
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  What's cool is he videotaped a lot of
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  his own journey on VHS tapes and the
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  editors of this kind of put it together.
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  So he actually narrates a lot of his
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  own story and how he came up through
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  the business and the impact he had on
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  pop culture, on the athletes,
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  the relationship with the athletes,
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  the inside information he had with the
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  athletes.
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  It's just really, really good.
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  If you have the time,
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  it's less than an hour, maybe like forty,
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  forty five minutes.
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  It's a thirty for thirty on ESPN.
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  Definitely worth checking out.
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  If you're not into sports,
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  it's a great story about a father,
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  a husband,
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  everything that he went through,
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  the fight for cancer,
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  the fight through cancer,
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  what that did to him and how he
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  kept the fight going.
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  And really,
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  the fight was all about just being...
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  Being there for his daughters as long as
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  he could.
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  And if you're a parent,
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  you would understand that completely.
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  It was a big tearjerker watch for me.
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  Again,
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  he was my favorite SportsCenter anchor
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  with Rich Eisen.
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  That team was awesome and definitely,
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  definitely worth a watch.
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  So if you've not seen it, please,
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  please go check that out.
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  It is totally, totally worth it.
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  Train all of Stuart was an icon of
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  ESPN.
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  He truly was.
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  He changed the way they do SportsCenter.
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  And I think we've learned over the past
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  several years,
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  like even in the podcast world,
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  the more authentic you are to who you
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  are, the better you're going to do.
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  The more people are going to listen to
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  what you have to say.
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  If you try to sugarcoat everything and you
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  try to make everything bland and vanilla,
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  you're not going to do as well.
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  It's really funny that I watch this
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  documentary and I look at how the
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  evolution of this podcast is.
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  The more dislikes I get on YouTube,
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  the more viewers I get.
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  That's wild that when you get people to
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  get emotional about your takes,
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  it bleeds into that they're more committed
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  to finding out what you have to say.
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  And they may not like what you have
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  to say.
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  They hit that dislike button.
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  But it's really funny how that correlates
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  with higher viewership,
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  the more dislikes you get.
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  Yeah.
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  and so it it's i love seeing when
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  my shows get a dislike but it means
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  that i have created an emotion in somebody
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  and that they vehemently disagree with me
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  and that's fine everybody's entitled to
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  their opinion everybody is entitled to
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  have the feeling they have when i say
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  something and that's what happened with
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  stuart scott um he would say things people
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  would disagree
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  but it made him more popular in the
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  end because it was something that was
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  authentic and people knew he was going to
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  be genuine to his own beliefs so I
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  thought that was a pretty cool pretty cool
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  correlation and it kind of bleeds into the
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  main topic for today's lunch show and that
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  is I was sitting back last night thinking
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  I think that the third-party media
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  struggles so hard in this space to get
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  the proper respect from events and
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  organizations that are trying to build
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  things in the space.
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  And John George,
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  I gave you a dislike once about a
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  year ago,
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  and I'm still here and love your show.
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  See?
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  See, it's all good.
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  But it's okay.
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  It's okay that we disagree and we have
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  discussions.
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  And that's what I love about this.
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  It's okay that you have a different
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  opinion than I do.
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  It's fine.
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  Let's talk it out.
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  Let's argue it out.
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  Jamie and I disagree all the time.
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  We fight all the time.
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  And that is what's awesome about our
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  friendship is I know that she is not
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  going to sugarcoat things to me.
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  I know that she's going to be honest
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  with me.
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  And we can have those discussions and
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  those arguments,
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  and we're still great friends after it's
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  all over.
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  And so what I want to point out
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  about this third-party media thing and
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  events is I'm going to give you guys
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  an example.
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  During the CrossFit Games last year,
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  Stevon Matosian had a very harsh take
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  about too many machines leaking themselves
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  into the CrossFit space.
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  He talked about it a lot on his
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  show.
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  And since he did that,
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  since he gave that opinion,
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  that topic has appeared everywhere.
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  It's appeared in Hiller videos.
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  It appeared on our show Sunday night with
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  Carolyn having strong feelings about the
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  subject because she heard it on Get With
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  The Programming and their thoughts on the
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  machines coming into the fitness space.
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  So this one man,
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  this one man has a gripe about machines.
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  It leaks into all the other media in
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  the space.
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  And then I watched Dave's Week in Review
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  yesterday, and it's on his show.
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  And Dave takes five to ten minutes to
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  talk about why machines are important,
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  why he uses machines, all of that stuff.
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  So this one podcaster,
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  this one third-party media brings up one
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  grievance he has about things going on in
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  the CrossFit space.
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  And it has spread to every other media
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  member.
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  And CrossFit itself with Dave Castro,
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  it's being talked about everywhere.
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  And it's become a legit controversial
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  topic about are we leaning too much on
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  machines in workouts?
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  So I ask you, why,
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  if you're an event and things can become
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  so viral so fast and you never know
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  where it's going to come from,
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  in this third-party media world,
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  why would you not embrace third-party
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  media coming to your event,
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  doing live podcasts, doing...
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  their thing inside the walls of your
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  entity and sharing what they're doing at
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  your event to get people talking about
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  what's going on in your event.
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  And I know the reason that they do
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  not do it is because there is a
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  fear that someone is going to talk poorly
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  about them.
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  Now,
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  I just told you my biggest viewed shows
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  are the ones where people hit dislike.
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  So if you're a third party entity or
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  if you're an event and you're letting
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  third party media in to talk.
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  Okay,
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  maybe they say something that isn't
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  flattering,
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  but if it takes off and people are
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  talking about your event and people are
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  then now viewing your event to see what
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  happens or what is going to happen beyond
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  that,
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  isn't that a good thing for your event?
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  It's also a way to collect constructive
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  criticism about what's going on and maybe
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  with some tweaks and things you can fix
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  what's going on.
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  The more we become bland and predictable,
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  the less people are going to watch.
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  And that is the events themselves are
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  becoming more and more predictable.
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  Great minds think alike,
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  fools seldom differ.
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  Ken Walter said,
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  drama and controversy sells on CrossFit
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  podcast.
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  Sex sells everywhere else.
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  Jay Birch says,
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  pretty sure the latter sells in CrossFit
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  podcast too.
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  Probably true.
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  Probably true.
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  But the reason you watch a podcast is
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  so, at least for me,
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  and I think I speak for a large
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  number of people,
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  And the reason that in the CrossFit space
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  they're so popular is because you get to
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  give your instant feedback in the chat.
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  Or like me,
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  I just yell at the TV.
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  Oftentimes I'm just yelling at the TV on
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  what people are saying.
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  And because I get that interaction with
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  them,
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  I tune in because I want to have
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  that interaction and these discussions
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  about topics within the space.
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  So I ask,
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  why is it that when I apply for
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  a media credential at Legends or the age
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  group CrossFit Games,
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  and I don't get any other access than
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  what a spectator can get?
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  Two years ago,
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  I put together an eleven part documentary
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  free of charge,
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  highlighting the athletes of the of the
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  age group CrossFit Games and highlighting
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  the event that they just took part in.
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  And ninety eight percent of it was
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  positive.
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  Ninety eight percent of it was positive.
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  And then the following year,
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  I can't even get close to the the
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  floor where the people are competing.
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  My five foot one camera woman has to
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  like get her lens through heads of people
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  trying to get any kind of action on
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  the floor.
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  Legends is going on last weekend.
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  What media did you see coming out of
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  what media did you see coming out of
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  legends last weekend?
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  None,
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  none except for what they produce
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  themselves.
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  And there's,
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  that is not going to make any,
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  the media you do yourself is all
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  promotional about your event and there's
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  nothing controversial about it.
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  It's not going to go viral.
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  It's not going to do anything to promote
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  your event.
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  And it stays inside your circle with
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  nobody outside that circle getting to see
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  anything that you put out.
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  It is utterly ridiculous.
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  Yeah, Mark Phillips,
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  just Corey's live stream.
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  Yeah, I got to see Corey's live stream.
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  I got to see Becca Voigt's live stream.
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  And I got to see Maddie Betts' live
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  stream and Denise Moore's live stream.
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  And that is the athletes themselves with a
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  friend holding up a phone showing us what
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  they're doing.
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  Because you can't get access with them
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  because they have made the choice to get
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  paid by a company doing photo packages and
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  video packages for the athletes.
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  They won't let third-party media come in
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  because they don't want to get rid of
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  that cash cow.
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  And it's so damn short-sighted.
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  So short-sighted.
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  I literally saw nothing from legends,
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  whether it was a hype reel highlight or
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  any press or any recap or anything.
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  I saw like a drone footage of the
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  swim that they put out.
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  I saw a couple hype videos, maybe two.
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  It's ridiculous.
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  denise says hi she just came into the
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  chat congratulations on your victory last
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  weekend denise what we're talking about is
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  the lack of third-party media coverage at
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  legends and it's because legends just will
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  not allow people to um come in and
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  do any kind of content outside them and
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  their own entity and what it does is
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  it does not expand the viewership beyond
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  the inner circle of legends
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  It just doesn't.
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  John George, zero coverage.
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  I didn't see a single thing come across
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  my algorithm.
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  Ninety percent of what I consume is
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  CrossFit.
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  But why are you surprised?
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  I'm not.
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  I'm not surprised.
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  I'm disappointed.
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  I'm just disappointed.
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  And it's not just legends.
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  I'm not just picking on legends.
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  It is every event wants to withhold the
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  ability for third-party media.
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  They make it so hard.
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  Even the CrossFit Games until this past
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  year has been very difficult to get access
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  to anything.
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  This was the first year we got any
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  kind of additional access to anything and
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  athletes to be able to talk to them
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  during the event because they have such a
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  tight rein on what can and cannot be
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  said about them.
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  Uh, yeah,
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  I see Denise said the podium was streamed,
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  but that, what does it,
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  at that point you get to see who
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  wins,
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  but you don't get to see how they
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  won.
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  Um, so I don't know.
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  I just, I, I look at like how,
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  again, I go back to,
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  I look at how Savan made one comment
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  about machines that has taken over the
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  media world in the CrossFit space.
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  I have said things about the structure of
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  WFP and the way they pay out athletes
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  that got shared everywhere.
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  You want things that go viral.
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  You want things outside of your circle to
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  spread out to the world to share what's
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  going on at your event, I would think.
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  But everybody is so protective and have so
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  thin-skinned about what people may say
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  about them that they avoid that
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  controversy and they don't allow
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  third-party media to come in and say
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  anything about their event or broadcast
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  anything about their event.
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  It is so short-sighted.
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  It's one of the biggest problems we have
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  going on in the space.
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  Because Legends ended on Sunday,
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  and I haven't even talked about it yet.
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  And I am a super fan of the
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  age group athletes.
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  I want to talk about it,
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  but how do I talk about something that
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  I did not see or could not get
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  access to?
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  it's just utterly ridiculous that nobody
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  can see the forest for the trees.
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  Yeah.
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  Denise, thank you for the congratulations.
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  We got a lot of nice gifts at
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  the end and cash.
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  Yeah.
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  For the first time in years,
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  legends paid out.
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  And that it was a footnote on an
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  Instagram post.
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  That is something that like,
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  if you're an age group athlete and you
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  learn that you could actually make money
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  by podiuming at this event,
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  it would make a world of difference on
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  whether you would be willing to compete or
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  not.
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  Yet it is a footnote on an Instagram
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  post on an internal post that nobody,
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  the only reason I saw it is because
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  Holly sent it to me.
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  If Holly wouldn't have sent it to me,
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  I would have no clue.
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  Because I would have missed it.
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  But yeah,
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  they actually got paid this year.
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  We don't get to talk about that because
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  they didn't let anybody see that.
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  And I look at the WFP that's happening
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  this weekend and the such little video...
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  available about what's going on.
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  You have all these athletes doing meet and
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  greets.
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  You have all these athletes there on site
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  and nothing is coming out about it from
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  the WFP.
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  And they have, they've made it so hard,
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  so hard for third party media to,
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  to get involved because they don't want,
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  they,
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  they just don't want the controversy.
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  I mean,
• 22:43
  the fact that Colton is in sixth place
• 22:50
  going into the finals at WFP and doesn't
• 22:53
  even know the contract structure of what
• 22:55
  it may be like if he gets it
• 22:58
  because they won't make public with the
• 23:01
  contracts that they gave out this year.
• 23:09
  Hiller,
• 23:10
  I put out more at crash than they
• 23:11
  have at WFP thus far.
• 23:13
  There is absolutely no doubt about that.
• 23:21
  I understand, Jonathan,
• 23:22
  that Colton is not a pro,
• 23:24
  but because they're not making the details
• 23:26
  of the contract public,
• 23:28
  nobody understands it.
• 23:30
  So if you don't understand what you're
• 23:32
  fighting for,
• 23:33
  nobody's going to buy into the fact that
• 23:35
  they're trying.
• 23:37
  What does it mean to have a contract?
• 23:39
  How many events do they have to
• 23:40
  participate in to keep the contract?
• 23:43
  Nobody knows any of those details.
• 23:46
  It wasn't until they were pushed on it
• 23:49
  by third-party media that they released
• 23:52
  what the contracts would be next season.
• 23:56
  I mean,
• 23:56
  Will went from saying we're not going to
• 23:58
  release the information to releasing the
• 24:00
  information because they actually got
• 24:03
  pushed on it.
• 24:11
  It requires actual work.
• 24:12
  They don't work.
• 24:13
  They snatch two seventy five on the arena
• 24:15
  floor.
• 24:24
  Denise, who won legends this year,
• 24:26
  didn't realize she gets an automatic
• 24:28
  invite to Delmar for winning.
• 24:31
  She just has to qualify for the semis.
• 24:35
  And she found that out after she won.
• 24:39
  Like,
• 24:39
  none of this information is out there for
• 24:41
  anybody to see.
• 24:50
  Thank you, Siobhan.
• 24:52
  If you want the algorithm to feed you
• 24:53
  this show every morning,
• 24:54
  make sure you like and subscribe.
• 24:56
  Thank you so much for that.
• 25:07
  The WFP is more confusing than an
• 25:09
  essential oils MLM scheme.
• 25:12
  I couldn't have said it better myself.
• 25:18
  Yeah.
• 25:20
  So there's all this media out there.
• 25:25
  I used the example of Savan complaining
• 25:27
  about machines and how it has taken over
• 25:29
  the media space in the CrossFit world.
• 25:32
  It is everywhere.
• 25:34
  That influence can be used for good if
• 25:38
  you're an event.
• 25:39
  It can be used to promote your event,
• 25:43
  but you refuse to reach out to everybody
• 25:45
  because you're afraid of getting your
• 25:47
  feelings hurt.
• 25:52
  with some small changes,
• 25:54
  reaching out to some of this third-party
• 25:56
  media who are dying to cover your events,
• 25:58
  who are dying to get more information,
• 26:02
  suck it up, get some thick skin,
• 26:06
  let people in that can help promote your
• 26:07
  stuff.
• 26:12
  Your reels,
• 26:15
  your internal shit is not going viral.
• 26:18
  It's not taking over the media space.
• 26:22
  Hillers is, Savans is.
• 26:25
  Those are the people that are making a
• 26:26
  difference.
• 26:27
  Let people in.
• 26:29
  Let them talk about your stuff.
• 26:31
  Let them have access to the information so
• 26:34
  that this stuff can grow outside of your
• 26:37
  bubble.
• 26:44
  That's a big problem.
• 26:48
  Look at Rogue.
• 26:49
  Rogue is one of the biggest entities on
• 26:51
  the face of this CrossFit world.
• 26:56
  And Katie does an interview with Siobhan
• 26:58
  every night after the show because she
• 27:00
  knows that that reaches people that she
• 27:03
  can't.
• 27:07
  Athletes let Hiller come to their house
• 27:10
  and do forty-eight hours with them because
• 27:13
  they know that that reaches beyond them.
• 27:18
  outside of their bubble to help promote
• 27:20
  them.
• 27:22
  Those are the smart people in the space.
• 27:25
  Those are the people that get it.
• 27:29
  Hell,
• 27:29
  the games Dave comes on with Sivan after
• 27:32
  every night of the show.
• 27:33
  The biggest,
• 27:35
  biggest entity in all of the CrossFit
• 27:37
  space.
• 27:39
  They know it's worth taking fifteen
• 27:41
  minutes to come on a show to reach
• 27:44
  people that they don't get to reach.
• 27:49
  And these other entities are just dumb and
• 27:53
  so afraid that someone's going to say
• 27:55
  something bad about them.
• 27:57
  And they're going to be stuck as small
• 27:59
  entities.
• 28:06
  I don't know why athletes aren't begging
• 28:08
  Hiller to come for a weekend.
• 28:09
  Honestly, I don't know either.
• 28:22
  I don't know your sources, Seema Boobs,
• 28:24
  courtesy of Vindicate.
• 28:26
  That would require Will not being high for
• 28:27
  thirty minutes.
• 28:30
  I don't know his weed smoking schedule,
• 28:34
  but sure.
• 28:46
  Does that mean I have permission to leave
• 28:48
  your show if you run over, Siobhan?
• 28:53
  It's a free market, buddy.
• 28:55
  You can go wherever you want to go.
• 28:58
  There's enough talk going on for
• 29:00
  everybody.
• 29:07
  So yeah.
• 29:09
  So that's my little riff about that.
• 29:13
  I want to finish up with...
• 29:16
  just because I've been transparent about
• 29:18
  this,
• 29:18
  I'm going through these health issues.
• 29:20
  Uh,
• 29:20
  tomorrow is my consult for the biopsy on
• 29:23
  my lungs.
• 29:25
  Um, again, they don't believe it's cancer,
• 29:29
  but they have to rule that out.
• 29:31
  They believe I have sarcoidosis, um,
• 29:34
  and they can't treat the sarcoidosis until
• 29:36
  they know for sure that there's not
• 29:38
  cancer.
• 29:39
  So I have to have a biopsy.
• 29:41
  Um,
• 29:43
  That means that tomorrow I will not be
• 29:46
  doing a show.
• 29:48
  I will be at the doctor's office going
• 29:50
  over the options for the biopsy tomorrow
• 29:53
  and hopefully being scheduled for that
• 29:55
  biopsy.
• 29:58
  And then once I get through that,
• 30:00
  I'll let you guys know when the biopsy
• 30:01
  is.
• 30:02
  And hopefully we will get back on the
• 30:05
  road to recovery.
• 30:06
  The medicine that they've been giving me
• 30:09
  in the meantime has stopped my coughing
• 30:13
  for the time being.
• 30:16
  And that has been good.
• 30:16
  It's really helped with sleep.
• 30:18
  In addition to that,
• 30:20
  sleep is helped by my third Z.
• 30:24
  So use code Jazzy to get fifteen percent
• 30:26
  off that.
• 30:28
  Sarcoidosis.
• 30:29
  Sarcoidosis is an autoimmune disease.
• 30:33
  It's where your antibodies overproduce the
• 30:37
  cells to fight disease.
• 30:39
  And when that happens,
• 30:41
  then the cells that are produced create
• 30:47
  masses and they stick to an organ.
• 30:49
  Mine has stuck to my lungs is what
• 30:55
  they believe has happened.
• 30:58
  And so there's two options of going into
• 31:03
  my lung to get, um,
• 31:05
  to get the biopsy.
• 31:08
  One is down through my nose.
• 31:10
  One is through the, the chest wall.
• 31:14
  Um,
• 31:14
  so they're going to go over those two
• 31:15
  things with me tomorrow and we will pick
• 31:18
  what is the better option, uh,
• 31:20
  to get the biopsy and hopefully get
• 31:22
  scheduled.
• 31:23
  But that is what sarcoidosis is.
• 31:26
  Um,
• 31:27
  It's basically an autoimmune disorder
• 31:29
  where my body is producing too many
• 31:31
  antibodies to fight disease,
• 31:34
  and they don't know where to go when
• 31:36
  there's too many of them.
• 31:37
  So they create little masses.
• 31:39
  So my lungs right now have little masses
• 31:41
  on the lung wall,
• 31:44
  and they just have to determine that it's
• 31:49
  not cancer so they can treat it and
• 31:52
  get rid of it.
• 31:58
  does it inflame your whole body to like
• 32:00
  give you pain throughout your body?
• 32:02
  Uh, I don't know.
• 32:04
  Like, I don't feel great.
• 32:05
  I I'll be honest.
• 32:06
  Um,
• 32:07
  and it has worsened over the past few
• 32:09
  months.
• 32:10
  Um, but, uh,
• 32:12
  the medicine they're giving me is making,
• 32:14
  it's helping me breathe much, much better.
• 32:16
  It's helping me, um,
• 32:18
  through a lot of this stuff,
• 32:20
  but it's not treating what's wrong.
• 32:22
  So it's just kind of masking it until,
• 32:25
  um,
• 32:28
  until until it can be uh cured um
• 32:34
  so i'm just i've got i'm doing these
• 32:37
  band-aid medicines to get me through the
• 32:39
  holidays essentially until we can figure
• 32:41
  the whole thing out
• 32:44
  Jay Burch says,
• 32:45
  I would think through the nose.
• 32:46
  Yeah, again,
• 32:47
  I'm not a medical professional.
• 32:49
  Shanna is the person that's better to
• 32:51
  answer these things.
• 32:52
  I would think through the nose is less
• 32:54
  invasive because the other way is like
• 32:58
  actually through my skin.
• 33:00
  So...
• 33:02
  Um, Shanna says, yes,
• 33:05
  it does yucky for some people.
• 33:07
  Yeah.
• 33:07
  I, I just feel yucky someday.
• 33:10
  And some days are better than others.
• 33:12
  It comes and goes.
• 33:14
  And I really don't know the bad days
• 33:16
  until I wake up and kind of see
• 33:18
  it.
• 33:22
  Um, Denise asked,
• 33:24
  do I feel better that I have a
• 33:25
  path forward?
• 33:26
  So much better.
• 33:27
  Um,
• 33:28
  I think my wife will feel a whole
• 33:29
  lot better when they confirm it's not
• 33:31
  cancer.
• 33:32
  Um,
• 33:33
  even though the doctor says the shape and
• 33:35
  the size do not lend him to think
• 33:38
  that it's cancer at all.
• 33:40
  They just have to make sure it's not,
• 33:43
  but it has really, um,
• 33:45
  kind of rocked my wife about, um,
• 33:52
  them saying biopsy.
• 33:54
  I have to go to the cancer center
• 33:55
  to have the biopsy.
• 33:57
  Like those things are just getting,
• 33:59
  they're kind of just messing with her
• 34:01
  head.
• 34:04
  Trish,
• 34:05
  have you tried coughing really hard and
• 34:06
  coughing it up?
• 34:07
  I've been coughing for four years, Trish,
• 34:10
  because of this.
• 34:11
  And finally they figured out what's
• 34:13
  causing the cough.
• 34:15
  And so I've coughed hard for four years.
• 34:23
  denise says they always have to state the
• 34:24
  worst options to cya my doctor is not
• 34:28
  saying the worst options he is saying that
• 34:31
  he is ninety five percent sure that it's
• 34:33
  not cancer that it is sarcoidosis but they
• 34:38
  but because of the way the treatment works
• 34:40
  it cannot be the other thing and so
• 34:42
  they have to rule that out before they
• 34:44
  can start treating
• 34:49
  worth a shot yeah I've coughed up for
• 34:52
  a long time and I'm so glad that
• 34:55
  I'm not doing that right now like I
• 34:56
  can actually get through my day without I
• 34:59
  mean ever since COVID if you're in public
• 35:01
  and you cough you're looked at like you
• 35:03
  have the plague and it wasn't due to
• 35:08
  COVID I'm just coughing because of this
• 35:10
  other thing so yeah
• 35:17
  Meredith,
• 35:17
  since they're treating the symptoms,
• 35:19
  it makes you a bit more functional right
• 35:21
  now versus always feeling like you need to
• 35:23
  cough up a lung.
• 35:24
  Exactly.
• 35:25
  That is exactly what's happening right
• 35:26
  now.
• 35:29
  And then Terry says, it's scary,
• 35:30
  but the cancer centers have the most
• 35:32
  experience with biopsies.
• 35:33
  Yes,
• 35:33
  I actually told my wife that exact same
• 35:36
  phrase.
• 35:38
  You know, I mean,
• 35:40
  we've been together thirty three years.
• 35:45
  you know, we kind of love each other.
• 35:48
  So it's, it's tough.
• 35:51
  She just hears these words and it scares
• 35:53
  her a little bit.
• 35:57
  So I just wanted to give you guys
• 35:59
  an update on all that.
• 36:03
  But what I'm really excited about is
• 36:05
  getting back to working out where I'm not
• 36:09
  feeling so doggone tired and coughing up a
• 36:12
  lung every time I work out.
• 36:16
  I'm ready to get back to some intensity
• 36:18
  and being able to really get after it
• 36:20
  when these things are cleared out of my
• 36:22
  lungs.
• 36:25
  So that is the light at the end
• 36:27
  of the tunnel.
• 36:28
  That is what's making me optimistic about
• 36:30
  the future.
• 36:31
  And...
• 36:34
  I can't wait to get after it after
• 36:36
  the first of the year when they get
• 36:38
  these things out of my lungs.
• 36:42
  So that's what I'm super excited about.
• 36:48
  And I'm glad you guys are with me
• 36:51
  on this journey because you guys are the
• 36:52
  best.
• 36:53
  With that...
• 36:55
  Go support the people in the media space.
• 36:57
  They're awesome.
• 36:59
  Every single one of them.
• 37:01
  They are such a great group and they
• 37:05
  do so much for this CrossFit space that
• 37:09
  people don't even realize.
• 37:11
  I think it just happens around us and
• 37:13
  we don't realize what they are doing to
• 37:15
  make everything better.
• 37:17
  So go support everybody in space.
• 37:20
  Go listen to Coffee Pods and Wads.
• 37:23
  Go listen to Savan.
• 37:24
  Go listen to Hiller.
• 37:25
  Go listen to Wad Prep.
• 37:27
  All of those guys.
• 37:28
  They're awesome.
• 37:30
  With that, yes, Shanna,
• 37:34
  it will be nice for you to get
• 37:36
  back to normal.
• 37:37
  It will, yes,
• 37:39
  a better normal will be awesome.
• 37:42
  Thank you, Winter.
• 37:43
  Good luck.
• 37:44
  I appreciate every bit of that.
• 37:47
  After tomorrow, we'll be back Thursday.
• 37:49
  I talked to Corey a little bit today.
• 37:52
  When he comes on at some point this
• 37:53
  week, we will digest Legends a little bit,
• 37:58
  see how his weekend went.
• 38:00
  I know it didn't go to plan for
• 38:02
  him,
• 38:03
  but I'm sure we'll talk about it when
• 38:04
  he's on.
• 38:05
  With that, guys, thank you so much.
• 38:08
  Thank you for the prayers.
• 38:08
  Thank you for the good luck.
• 38:10
  I'll let you know what I find out
• 38:11
  tomorrow on Thursday.
• 38:13
  And we'll be back then on Lunch with
• 38:16
  the Clydesdale.
• 38:17
  Thank you guys so much.
• 38:18
  Love you.