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S2 E13: The Andor Season 2 Trailer · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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Hello there, it's time for most things Kenobi.
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I prefer all things Kenobi, but I suppose that's not the Jedi
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way. As long as it's not all things
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Anakin. Hi everyone, welcome to another
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episode of Most Things Kenobi, a podcast about Obi Wan Kenobi and
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all things Star Wars. I'm your host, Lauren.
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And I'm your host, Leanne. And this week we are talking
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about and or Season 2 the trailer.
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Hell yeah. It was kind of awesome and I'm
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glad we didn't record something immediately because now there's
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also been like an inside look and a live Q&A.
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So we have lots to talk about here.
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Yes. In fact, I did not.
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I was not able to watch the live Q&A because work.
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So I'm going to come with questions and I can just ask you
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as if I'm the general audience and you tell me what the Hell's
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going on. How's that sound?
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Sounds like a plan. Excellent.
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There weren't really any like huge revelations in the Q&A.
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It was Tony Gilroy, and then they had on Genevieve O'Reilly
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and Adria. Oh my God, I can't remember
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Bix's actress's last name. Bix.
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And then the guy who played Melchi.
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Also, it was cool because it wasn't the actors I necessarily
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thought it was going to be. So it was kind of like
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especially of Melchi that that actor got to come back to to his
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his character after like he had such a tiny part in Rogue One
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and I love that they chose to bring him back.
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So yeah, it was cool to see him on the Q&A today.
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I'm all for it. That's what was discussed.
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I know we're going to talk about the trailer, but this is
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basically an and or season 2 free for all episode.
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I guess 'cause we got a lot of we have a lot of things thrown
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at us. Yeah, and or wise.
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It's all coming at the same time.
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So what was the general gist of the live Q&A?
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So it was mostly kind of recapping season 1 because they
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can't really talk about almost anything for season 2.
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And they showed a few scenes from each actor, like a like one
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or two scenes that each of the actors had portrayed.
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And then they talked over them and like talked about them and
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what was going on behind the scenes or like why those scenes
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were particularly important. And just some of their
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experiences on Season 1, but also a bit of Season 2.
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But again, like, you know, they can't say much.
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So it sounds like it's going to be devastating for anyone who
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loves Bix. Oh, I don't.
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So it's not devastating for me at all.
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Yeah, it sounds like she and Cassian are going to be in a
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relationship, which I'm not a huge fan of because I don't
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think he's good enough for her. He's kind of just an asshole and
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I think she'd be better off with Brasso, but either way.
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Well, not only that, but I feel like it's a little bit quick
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between his relationship with her to his feelings that he
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develops for Jen. Yeah, and I'm almost wondering
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if they're gonna try and make a statement that that was not any
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kind of romantic thing, even though from what I understand,
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the original right of like, the writing for Rogue One did have
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the characters fall in love and they cut that out in the editing
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process, which I do think made the movie stronger.
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But that chemistry is still there between the characters and
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the actors, so. It's almost like trauma bonding.
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Yeah because of the shit that they're literally going through.
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For sure. They have a a giant respect for
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each other so I'm fine either way on whatever their verdict is
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for Cassian and Jen. But I love them and I will
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always ship them together and I will never support Bix, sorry.
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Because I think the actress is really talented and I do like
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Bix's arc in season 1. It'll be interesting to see what
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happens to her in season 2. Obviously I I mean we can pretty
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much be sure if she doesn't live right like.
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Nope, she's out. It doesn't.
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Make the cut and there's interesting stuff in the trailer
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that that I see like mirrors of of Rogue One in it.
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They were talking about that for season 1 as well, like the scene
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where Cassian and Melchi are on the beach and they're saying
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goodbye to each other. Tony Gilroy said I didn't write
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that scene as a mirror to Rogue One, but the basically the
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director and the cinematographer chose to make it mimic the end
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of Rogue One. He said they even put the
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horizon in the exact same spot that it is in Rogue One.
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Oh. The thing I just love about this
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show, which we've talked about, is the care that they take.
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Yeah, they have a. They're thoughtful with just
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about every single element in that show.
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It's. So deliberate.
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Everything is deliberate. I really love shows that do
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that. I really do, and every single
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Star Wars fan I know is more psyched for Andor season 2 than
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like any show prior. Which is.
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Amazing. Yeah.
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It's kind of funny because it's also one of the shows I've seen
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shit talked a lot. I think Acolyte was probably
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shit on the most but Andor seems to really split people that like
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people either love it or they just don't and they.
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Well, you could say that about the Mandalorian too.
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You could say that about Kenobi. You could say that I don't know.
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I. Feel like I'm the only person I
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know who doesn't like the Mandalorian.
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No, there's, there are people, there are people who are like.
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Are there Are there more than just me?
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There there are of the of the people that I know that don't
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like Mandalorian. It's because they're trying to
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tie it to to to too many things. Boba Fett, Ahsoka Luke original
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trilogy this that the other and was very very its own thing.
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Yeah, it really could stand alone outside of Star Wars.
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I think it's just so beautifully constructed.
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And that was the thing, too, that I took away from the Q&A.
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All the actors were visibly emotionally excited to have had
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the chance to act that script specifically, they said, like
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Tony Gilroy as a writer creates characters that are super
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intense and fun, even though sometimes sad for the actors to
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portray. And Genevieve was saying that
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acting man Mothma was like, she said it's very painful,
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beautiful. And she said it was absolutely
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like a gift to get to do Season 2 because she said we have to
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get from where we see her in Season 1 to how we see her in
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Rogue One, where she's basically an outlaw.
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Yeah. Oh, I can't wait.
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Well, and I think, you know, in the trailer, there's the moment
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where she's very dressed up and there's a party.
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Clearly I is that her daughter's wedding.
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That seems to be what the masses are saying, that it's it's a
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Chandrillin wedding so it would be her daughter's ceremony,
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which you know that husband is somewhere lurking, being a
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complete total Dick head. Well, her daughter was kind of a
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pill also. Well, she's yeah, yeah, she
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yeah. But I wonder if it's her
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husband, Mon Mothma's husband that ends up connecting her to
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ISB and what comes later on. I won.
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Maybe this too, because obviously her family is not part
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of the rest of her story. We never have heard of them
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before. And, or, and even Genevieve was
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saying like it was actually kind of a wonderful surprise to
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realize she had a family, even though that's true.
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They were not a happy family. Does she have to go on the run
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and abandoned them? And it's not that big of a
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sacrifice because they seem to hate her anyway.
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Or they the ones who turn against her and turn her in.
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It'll be very interesting and probably devastating.
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So watch it all unfold. There seem to be moments here
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too in the trailer where you see Cassian really dressed up.
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Yeah, there's a lot of cloak action in this trailer.
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It's beautiful. I wonder if that is the wedding
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sequence or not because. Oh, maybe.
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There's moments where Chronic is clearly meeting Mon Mothma
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because in the background is the father of the boy that wants to
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marry Mon Mothma's daughter. And then there's clearly an ISB
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officer behind them. So I'm like, wait a minute.
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Like, Chronic is not ISB. He's a science officer.
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No, no. But he's there's something
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there. Why are they all in the same
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room? I don't know.
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Don't forget there's there's a money element involved here
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because that ties Mon Mothma to what's his name.
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Who's leading the rebels here? Oh, Lutheran.
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Lutheran, I can never remember. He's my favorite character and I
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can never remember his fucking name.
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Scarsgard. That's all that pops into my
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head. But like, Lutheran, Lutheran's
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not going to make it out of this season.
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We know. No.
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And that's going to be probably the most devastating part of
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this for me. Like how he goes out.
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It's got to be with, Oh my God, it's going to, it's got to be
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with respect and dignity or sacrifice.
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So that's what I'm hoping for because he's a no nonsense, no
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bullshit. I will kill myself today to save
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you tomorrow type of dude. He's already settled on the fact
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that I'll never get to see the fruits of my labor, but he he
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doesn't care. Yeah.
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I love characters like that. I know he's clearly lost a lot
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but is beyond the grieving part of it like he's.
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Fully committed, turned bitter and stone cold.
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Sometimes that's what it takes to lead a group like this under
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these circumstances is someone who can be detached.
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You know what I mean? Who who can do what needs to be
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done and have that detachment from attachment, you know, from
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caring, caring about the cause, not necessarily the individuals
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involved in the 'cause you got to be detached and a little bit
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cold. Yeah, to allow that to happen
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for sure. They said him, we'll get more of
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his back story in Season 2. Tony Gilroy was saying that
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Luthin's history started to reveal itself to him as he was
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writing Season 2, so even he wasn't quite sure.
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And now? That's.
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Exciting new story to go with Lutheran, so I'll be very
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interested to see how how does like was the antique dealer a
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specific front he created or was he that already and became
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radicalized somehow? And had to maintain the facade
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and continue with the antiques Despite that.
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Could be either way. And like, how does an antiques
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dealer overlap a Sau Guerrera? I'm really interested to see
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more about them because I loved their interactions in season 1.
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Well, obviously the trailer has the Gorman massacre.
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Yes, right. It looks like it.
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Yeah, looks like OK. Yeah, I should say that it it
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looks like it it's being talked about as possibly being the
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Gorman massacre. But if you look out, so we have
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that shot of the dead person on the ground or who looks to be
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dead, and then there's a bunch of ships, there's an X wing.
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The middle ship is Zygerian. It looks like what mall was
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flying around in, right? That too, yes.
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So like. Yeah.
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Who else is collecting stuff? It was it really does like like
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the Sigerian ship. You're right.
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I I'm mixing up the ship that. The one that Anakin had, the guy
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with the Saber up to his fucking neck.
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I love that that ship or, or some type of version of that
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ship, yeah. Which is really cool.
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What was that? What's that about?
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I was wondering is that Sagara is hideaway?
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It kind of reminded me of what they described in the book Rebel
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Rising as like Saws secret layer.
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Oh my God, I didn't think of that.
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Perhaps, then, fucking Jen is there.
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Is she not? She shouldn't be at this point
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in the timeline though, and maybe he's already moved on from
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that base at this point in the timeline as well, but.
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Because he's got his his breathing apparatus, which means
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the accident already happened from Rebel Rising, which means
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she has been abandoned. God bless her.
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I wish we could see Felicity in this fucking show.
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I am holding out hope that we will see her somehow because
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remember last year or last year, it was years ago now when Season
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1 came out and they put out a trailer, almost all of what we
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saw was just in the first story arc, maybe the 1st 2.
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So there seems to be quite a lot in here.
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But if you look at it, which I have second by second, it's
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actually a lot of the same stuff but from different angles,
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you'll realize it's the same building, they're in the same
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field, whatever. Cuz there's that whole sequence
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that looks like they're in a wheat field.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I thought was an
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interesting parallel to the beginning of Rogue One where
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Jin's family was. They were in green wheat it look
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like. Right.
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Well also it's. It appears as though Brasso is
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having problems. Yeah, so it looks like Brasso,
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the boy who, I can't remember his father's name, but remember
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the guy who was killed by the ISB in Season 1 before they took
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Bix, he's the one who makes the bomb that he throws at the end
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of Season 1. So it's Brasso, that boy, Bix
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and Cassie and are all at that location with the wheat field,
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But there's also story troopers there and then a TIE fighter or
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something similar to that stuff. It seems like a lot going on.
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I get Lafal vibes and yes. Yes, I did too.
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So isn't there mention of Ezra that Ezra Bridger's speech has
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given them the ability to? That is in this trailer, is it
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not? Does he say that?
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Oh, I don't know. They say because of Ezra
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Bridger's speech we can now blah blah blah.
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And I'm thinking holy fuck. I didn't catch that.
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If that's in there, I didn't hear it.
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I guess it makes sense that they're working at the same
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timeline, right? And basically Luthan is kind of
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trying to combine all these small rebellions into one
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alliance, right? That's kind of like what he's
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working towards, which is why he's reaching out to Saw.
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So there's some sequences in here where it looks like they're
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actually attacking the ISB building or something.
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I'm all for, yeah. I mean Deidre looks real
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stressed in this trailer. She's she does in the list of
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people who are having a bad day in the trailer, we have Brasso
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and Deidre and quite possibly Cyril.
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He doesn't look like he's having a good day, but we he never
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does. So I don't know if we can call
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it that. But you know who is having a
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good day in the trailer? Cyril's mother.
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I was going to say she looks real happy.
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She looks real happy, so maybe she got a new apartment after
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all. She got herself an upgrade.
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She upgrade. Her son got a job.
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Looks real. Happy.
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Tell me it's credit. Hell yes bitch.
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I was waiting for you to drop. The Cranick is looking every bit
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of Cranick. He's smug, he's smirking, he's
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self-righteous, he's got the fucking Cape, he's got that
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sassy bitch smile going on. Like I got things going on in my
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life and nobody else does. But he hasn't talked back to
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Vader yet. So keep smiling, Cranick.
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I am so fucking excited for Ben Mendelsohn to be back in this
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role. He looks fantastic in like the
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five seconds that we got him. I have no doubt he'll he'll, he
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will bust it out. I have no doubt he will knock it
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out of the park. It's gonna be amazing.
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He's such a God. He's such a special character in
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Star Wars and probably probably cause Ben Mendelsohn made him
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so. Yes, yes, yes.
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He's like borderline petulant. Sometimes you're just like, who
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talks like this? But he.
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Does yes, you know who would have gotten along with him had
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they ever met? OK Anakin, Like Jedi Anakin
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would have gotten along with Chronic, not Imperial Chronic.
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So like yes, Chronic knows Vader blah blah blah but like Jedi
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Anakin at his height could quite possibly either have butted
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heads with him because of two egos, 2 power trips, or they'd
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have been like in the corner snicker in I don't know.
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I have a head cannon developing. I need to I need to Polish it,
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but. Well, I wondered too though,
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because Anakin and Tarkin definitely fangirled over each.
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Other so they were there was something there.
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Tarkin and Chronic hate each other so much.
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Yes. I think a Big Brother house with
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all these people in it should happen.
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Not to get on talk topic, but I think they would do really well
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on a Big Brother house. For those of you who don't know
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about Big Brother, it's a show where they cram a bunch of
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people in close quarters and drama starts because.
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And they film everything. Yep, just that's the show.
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Do they? Still do.
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That is the show, I think. They.
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Do they? Yeah.
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I want pantry gas to be in that Big Brother house cuz I really
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like that guy. I could see that too.
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He's one of my favorite imperials ever.
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Just like I when Deidre makes some accusation and he just says
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thesis please. Like exactly what did you think
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of the white suited stormtroopers without helmets?
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Like what? What?
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What's going on in the hallway there?
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Yeah, in the trailer, yeah. I have a theory and it's based
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on nothing. It was just like an instinct.
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Is it like ISB enforcers? Could be.
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That's a decent theory. Police type thing because they
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are wearing like the typical Some of them have stormtroopers,
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some of them have infantry uniform chest plates, but
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they're all painted white. But then they don't have
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helmets. They don't even have the full
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armor because you can see like their belt is not connected to
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their armor. It's.
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And the one guy in the back has a white compression suit
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underneath where the rest of them usually they all have black
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or they usually have black. The one in the back has white.
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One had a cap like a Lieutenant or something.
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Yeah. I don't know.
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It's going to be interesting to see what that's all about.
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But I mean, maybe they're rebels trying to sneak in somewhere and
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they don't have the full uniform.
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But there could be that I, I just, it could be anything
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because I didn't recognize anybody in that shot.
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Yeah, me either. So it intrigued me.
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I don't know. Yeah, I wondered too say I had
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the same question because they all look very severe.
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They they very do. And they're very serious.
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Yeah, yeah. But we get Yavin 4 and I'm I'm
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here for Yavin 4I. Know.
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I just how happy to see it. It is really fucking weird,
20:04
right? Yeah, I mean, okay, so there's a
20:08
real possibility of Leia or Bail or Ghana or hear us and.
20:15
Like yes. There's a real possibility we're
20:18
going to get some overlap because we know Chopper was
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there in Rogue One, we know Harrah was there in Rogue.
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One So yes, Yep, yeah, I'm so excited.
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Even if they don't show it, I'm just happy that, you know, our
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original trilogy planet is is back and better than ever, you
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know? Yeah, that shot of Cassie and
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just like strutting through Gavin Ford, I'm like, right, I'm
20:40
here for this. Yes.
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Thanks guys. He's doing a lot of strutting in
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this in this trailer, he's a man on a mission.
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Nothing but shots of him walking with purpose.
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Yes. I'm I'm OK with it.
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Yeah. OK.
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So do you think any of these women that we see who aren't
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Bix, are any of them his sister? Oh, I didn't think of that.
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I didn't even consider. I completely forgot about his
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sister. They could be.
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They could be. Because there's a shot of him
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walking away with somebody I don't recognize, and they blow
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up. They use like a trigger remote
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to blow something up in the background.
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And then there's another shot of him.
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They're in some windows, face to face, and she grabs him by the
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lapels and like pulls him like she's angry.
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And I don't recognize that woman.
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It could be the same one from the previous shot that I didn't
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recognize, or they could be different women.
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We don't know who any of them are anyway, so.
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Yeah. That would be cool.
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I'm assuming they're gonna bring that plot line in.
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I I mean, it's the whole thing that started his journey.
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Although it could be a Mcguffin. It could be like a total.
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Although Speaking of Mcguffin, Tony Gilroy did say that the
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Starpath unit is the official Mcguffin of the whole show.
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And he's like, it's gonna be part of the show to the very
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end. It's gonna be.
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The thing that. Like I assume Deidre is using to
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basically track all the rebels down.
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I don't know. Oh my God.
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And like a Mac Guffin, for those who don't know, is like an
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important plot piece that's not actually important.
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It's, it's the thing that will never really need it or use it,
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but it pushes the plot forward, you know, it's like.
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I didn't even think of that. It's kind of interesting.
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It's it's like the thing that started the empire on Cassian's
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trail. I mean, he killed those
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officers, but they might not have connected it until they saw
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the Starpath unit. That's when they realized it was
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part of like a bigger. Yeah, yeah.
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I wonder what if it what if it leads to Lutheran's death?
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Do you think it? Wouldn't be surprised because.
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He's that would be so bad, That would that would be the
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devastation that would kill me. Yes, that's what we need.
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Yep. Yes.
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You're here for that heartbreak. Well, I'm just thinking what's
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the most painful route? Yes, that's it.
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That'll be what it's for. Because you know, Star Wars is
23:13
pain and, and or is like the most painful because it feels
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so. Real.
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I feel like the other shows are a bit glossy so when people die
23:24
it's sad or whatever. Like even in the original
23:27
trilogy's it's it's sad, but they do it in a way where like
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we don't cry over Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru.
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We breeze by it like it's no big deal.
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But in Andrew, everything feels very real and like it could
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happen even though it's it's in Star Wars, but it's just a real,
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I don't know. These people are very real.
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They're so well-rounded as characters.
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The stakes are so high. There's a moment of
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vulnerability where you're not quite the rebellion yet, but
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your tiny little factions that are disorganized and you could
24:05
be found at any moment. One slip up and it's done.
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You compromise the whole thing. They're in that vulnerable
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moment where it's not good versus bad yet it's good as
24:17
intermingling with bad. Nobody quite knows who's in on
24:20
it yet and and they're figuring it out.
24:22
And it's this. That's why every, every moment,
24:26
every decision they make in these two seasons means such a
24:31
tremendous amount because it all leads to Leia getting that
24:34
fucking Death Star plan. You know, that's when the the
24:39
tables really turn. And so, so much loss of life
24:42
leading up to that moment. It's amazing.
24:44
But I think we're in it this season.
24:47
Like this is the the double down.
24:50
Everyone's gritty getting in it, you know, either you're
24:53
committed or you're out, that sort of thing.
24:56
Because the time to choose a side is right now or very soon.
25:00
And I think they drove that home in Season 1, especially when
25:03
Luther was talking to to Cassian before he even left his mom and
25:07
made the decision like he was going to help Luther with the
25:10
one thing. He's only going to help him with
25:12
the one task and that was it, right?
25:14
For money like that's only cared about.
25:17
And like, this has become so much bigger, and now everyone's
25:20
realizing it's becoming big. And then we've got all these
25:24
little factions that are eventually going to come
25:26
together, quite possibly on Yavin 4 in this season.
25:30
It's kind of crazy to think about it like this is the dawn
25:34
of the rebellion. I love this shit.
25:37
It gives me chills and we get motherfuking K2.
25:40
SO finally we're going to get the back story.
25:42
We're going to get the the meeting of that we've all been
25:46
waiting for. I'm so excited.
25:48
I saw a little snippet of them behind the scenes of the actor
25:52
sitting in a cockpit together laughing, and I was just like,
25:55
oh. Good.
25:56
Yay, that can only mean more backhands, right?
26:02
So when you and I saw Rogue One at the theater, it like it gave
26:07
me a new appreciation for Kay and the way his eyes.
26:11
Yeah, there it's because there's white or there's like it makes
26:16
him look like he's not blink, like he he's not blinking.
26:21
He looks so fucking ridiculous. I want a life-size K2, SO in my
26:25
house. Oh my gosh they're so big.
26:28
I saw one at Lucasfilm. They're legit like 8 feet.
26:31
Tall, but I'm down with him just standing in the corner of my
26:33
kitchen, like giving me those eyes when I want to do the
26:36
laundry, but I but I don't and he just backhands me like do the
26:41
laundry, bitch. Like I would listen to Kay if he
26:45
did that and he was in my living room, you know.
26:47
Oh. My God, that's funny.
26:50
I'm just excited to see him again.
26:52
Anything with Kay's is wonderful, honest to God.
26:56
Yeah, I'm thrilled. And there's no B, there's no B2
27:00
in the preview. I know, I know that I know, I
27:03
know. I hope that doesn't mean he's,
27:05
you know, gone. I can't.
27:07
He might. He might be with Brasso though.
27:10
Yeah, I would imagine that Brasso would take care of him.
27:13
I kind of would really love to see any kind of Marva flashback
27:18
or like reference to Marva because we got no closure and
27:23
we've talked about it in the past how that like Marva dies
27:26
off screen. Yeah.
27:28
And it's basically our experience is like Cassian's
27:31
experience where like you come back to the character and she's
27:34
dead. What, like it's basically he
27:37
went to jail and he could gets out and his mother's dead.
27:39
He's got there's nothing to do about it.
27:42
It's just done and. I would fucking love to see
27:46
Chronic watch her final her final speech.
27:49
Oh. My God, that'd be awesome.
27:52
That wrinkle in his forehead would be so damn deep over that
27:56
he'd probably hate her. And that's why I love her.
27:59
Yeah, I wonder if we'll see Galen or so since we see
28:04
chronic. Oh, I know he's fraternizing
28:07
with all of these people. He's putting on the face of
28:11
someone who wants to be there. Right.
28:15
We know this. He lies and makes himself
28:17
indispensable. Yeah, he goes to functions.
28:20
He he's invited to the the elite, the top of the top
28:24
functions and you would think. Yeah, it'll be interesting to
28:29
see if he gets in there. Even just a reference to him is
28:34
possible, but if he actually has a scene with Chronic or anything
28:38
like that would be interesting to see because the Death Star as
28:41
we know has taken a long time to build, so he's already been
28:45
working on this project a long time.
28:48
And Chronic standing there commenting, watching it being
28:51
assembled or getting towards completion.
28:55
And I wouldn't be surprised if he's off.
28:57
He's just off screen. Yeah.
29:00
I think they're holding a lot of cards.
29:03
They're, they're holding a lot of things close to their chest
29:05
on purpose and I like that. Remember for the people who
29:09
know, when Avengers end game came out, the trailer that
29:14
finally dropped, it was literally the first all scenes
29:17
in the trailer were like the first 6 minutes of end game.
29:21
We got nothing outside of the 1st 6 minutes or whatever
29:24
arbitrary number it was of end game.
29:27
And I like that because we're getting a sense of what awaits
29:32
us, but we're not getting everything that when it comes
29:35
around, we're like, oh, we already saw that, you know?
29:38
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. I think you're right and it
29:41
would make the most sense also from marketing perspective and.
29:45
The other people behind and or are smarter than the average
29:49
bear. You know what I'm saying?
29:51
Yeah, and they know. They know us.
29:53
They know we will watch the trailer second by second,
29:57
looking for every fucking detail path.
29:59
Yes, we are a little bit obsessive so.
30:02
I don't care. I love this.
30:04
I'm so excited for this show. I'm sorry for Chronic and the
30:07
Cape and Aunt and Cassian's capes.
30:11
I'm very excited for Cassian and Star Wars Tuxedo.
30:14
Listen, you're going to be fucking.
30:15
You need to be resuscitated after every one of these damn
30:18
episodes, and I don't know if I can keep up.
30:20
We're gonna need to get an EKG up in this bitch.
30:24
You know what else though? I'm excited for the outfits.
30:27
If that is a Chandrillin wedding, it's going to be crazy.
30:30
I want to see Mom Mothma's attire, what they come up with
30:34
for her. I want to see the Nitty
30:36
Gritty's, the Brazos, the Bix's, you know, like the the blue
30:39
collar, if you will. I want to see Deidre's because
30:43
the one shot of her looking rather strained with her tight
30:45
ass bun and, and she's in like a white hallway and stuff.
30:48
She has like a fucking long trench coat.
30:50
Like white. Yeah.
30:52
Listen, I love at this point in the game, the Empire's wardrobe.
30:59
Their entire like those who get to wear something other than a
31:03
stormtrooper outfit. They fucking bring it, you know
31:07
what I'm saying? I prefer their outfits to the
31:11
Rebels Browns and greens, which I mean, I get it.
31:14
They're literally doing patches on patches on their jackets just
31:18
to keep it together. I respect that.
31:19
But I love a good white Cape. I love a good white trench coat.
31:23
I love a white over like the one Piece but but Cyril is in all
31:27
black so he's obviously been promoted and.
31:30
He's got that weird fucking tie. Yeah, what a hat.
31:34
At least it's not a bolo tie. It does look like a handle to a
31:41
suitcase, though. Like I'm not a fan, but it suits
31:49
him really well. So I'm not a fan of the style,
31:52
but I think it's a really great design.
31:54
And actually, Tony Gilroy was talking about, I think is his
31:58
name, Michael Wilkinson, the guy who did the costumes.
32:01
In the Q&A today, he said he wanted to call him out
32:04
specifically and praise him because for the party scene,
32:08
which he would not call a wedding.
32:11
He's. Very careful to not call it
32:13
anything. Of course, he said.
32:14
Each person was in couture and then they would need barracks,
32:21
you know, gritty. And he's like, the same man
32:24
designed them, and then he would have to deliver them to set.
32:29
There's so much more to it than just designing and then dress
32:31
everybody and do it like back-to-back on on, like,
32:34
Wednesday. Thursday.
32:35
They would have opposite kinds of costumes.
32:38
And he would come in and costume 1000 people.
32:42
And it would be incredible. Yeah.
32:44
I mean, everyone on this show is clearly like the top of the line
32:50
at whatever they're doing. I love.
32:52
It so much the I'm just right now I'm just scrolling, just
32:56
clicking through the trailer on mute and every shot, it's just
33:00
so fucking intense. You know what I mean?
33:03
Yeah, like shit's blowing up. People are getting grabbed and
33:07
tossed and shaken and thrown and they're screaming and it's their
33:11
store with they got the the riot Shields and shit.
33:15
Like there's man, this is, this is going to be so good.
33:21
Unless there anything specific you're really hoping for or that
33:25
you would predict coming. I'm hoping for gin.
33:29
Any reference mention a site of Felicity Jones?
33:33
Anything please? I would.
33:36
I would take Galen too. I'd rather have gin than like
33:39
any Rebels reference personally. 100% me too because she's
33:43
crucial to this. This is.
33:45
Exactly. This is not a this is not a
33:48
Rebels tie in or offshoot. This is a Rogue one.
33:52
If there's going to be an appearance that's kept quiet
33:55
until it happens, it needs to be gin.
33:58
It does. Yeah, yeah, I totally agree.
34:01
I love her character these days. Rogue One, Gin and Cassian means
34:05
so much to me. I literally have a wooden sign
34:09
that I bought off Etsy in my cubicle at work that says
34:12
rebellions are built on hope and I look at it every day and it
34:16
tells me I have to keep going. So Rogue One is extremely close
34:21
to me at this point in time. If I were to see Jin, I would
34:24
cry. It's like seeing Luke in The
34:26
Mandalorian, you know what I'm saying?
34:28
Like. Yes.
34:30
It just means that much to me because her character is
34:34
important to me. And she's the glue that like
34:37
solidifies these characters that survive and or into Rogue One,
34:42
like Cassian and Melchi and whoever else.
34:46
She's the reason they finished the mission.
34:49
Yes, right. So there's she's the reason it's
34:54
called Rogue One, because they went rogue and took the ship and
34:59
did it themselves. She's ultimately Cranix
35:01
Downfall, the thorn in his side. God, I want to be her.
35:06
She had a rough fucking life though.
35:09
I, I, I respect her for it though.
35:11
She did what she had to do to survive, and I think that's a
35:14
theme in Star Wars. And ultimately, even though she
35:17
was cynical and bitter, she didn't fully lose her humanity
35:20
at all. She liked to pretend that she
35:23
had, but she hadn't really. Well, everyone is allowed to be
35:26
afforded the chance to change, to be inspired by something that
35:30
changes you for the better. And I think it's a pretty good
35:34
example of that occurring to see Jen do it.
35:37
Because there's a lot now in the past and I guarantee in the
35:40
future that makes people feel bitter and hopeless and fuck it,
35:45
why bother? It's not going to make a
35:47
difference, blah blah, blah. And then you're inspired, you
35:51
change and you do make a difference.
35:53
That's one of the best themes out there and one that I fucking
35:57
need right now. So I think, I think you asked me
36:00
a question 20 minutes ago and I don't know if I'm, if I've
36:04
answered you, you need to shut up.
36:07
But yeah, what about you? Do you have something you're
36:11
hoping for, looking forward to wishing for?
36:14
Oh my God, I don't I'm not even sure like yes, all the things
36:17
we've already mentioned basically that's my I don't
36:21
know. I just don't want them to undo
36:23
anything I love about rogue one. That's yeah.
36:27
I think my bigger concern. Like, I, I like going into these
36:31
shows with no expectation. And even though I love Cassian's
36:36
character and I love Rogue One, I feel like I can let go of my
36:39
expectations, but I do not want them to fuck anything up that I
36:43
love about Rogue One. And they kept saying you'll see
36:46
Rogue One in a different light. And it's like, I don't really
36:48
want to. I like Rogue One.
36:50
It's possibly my favorite Star Wars movie besides Empire
36:53
Strikes Back. Yeah, we have to just wait.
36:56
We got to wait and see and cross our fingers and sit and sit
37:00
there and pant and sweat and sweat it out because they're
37:04
dropping 3 episodes at a time, right?
37:07
Yes. So it comes out April 22nd and
37:09
they're doing 3 episodes every week for four weeks to cover a
37:14
four year period in Cassian's life.
37:16
So we've decided we're going to do each week at that time.
37:21
We won't do the every other week during and or we're going to be
37:25
very tired. That's OK.
37:27
We did it for Kenobi. We could do it for and or.
37:29
Yeah, Tony Gilroy even said he feels bad for the podcasters to
37:33
have to work on that that schedule.
37:36
How kind of him to take us into consideration.
37:39
Thank you, Tony. Yeah, he knows.
37:42
We, we work hard for them. I'm looking forward to it.
37:46
But we will cover it in as much real time as possible, so.
37:50
Yeah, we'll be back every single week during and or releases.
37:55
I'm looking forward to it. I think it'll be awesome.
37:57
Yeah, me too. I'm ready.
38:04
So our question for you all this week, what are you hoping to see
38:08
in Andorra Season 2? Is there any specific character,
38:11
a specific situation, scenario that you are looking forward to?
38:15
Tell us and we will read it on our next episode.
38:20
And our next episode is all about Obi Wan Kenobi, the
38:25
negotiator. How did he earn this title?
38:29
What are the moments that we can see and discuss that makes him
38:34
the negotiator? I think it's going to be
38:35
interesting because there are so many moments that we can talk
38:38
about and it's a unique title. I don't know too many other Star
38:42
Wars characters, if any, that are known for the things that
38:46
Obi Wan Kenobi is known for. And I'm not just talking about
38:48
his beard. I'm talking about his
38:52
negotiation skills. Doesn't he even get a ship named
38:56
after him because of that? We'll talk about it.
39:00
Yeah, Talk about all this and more on our next episode.
39:05
And Speaking of ships. Yeah.
39:09
Last week we did an episode about ships and I can't even
39:13
tell you how many people wrote in and said they thought we
39:16
meant relationships. Which is hilarious because I'm
39:18
pretty sure I said twice that we were not talking about
39:23
relationships, so I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough.
39:29
No, I've posted a picture of a ship, a star destroyer and
39:33
everyone was like I thought it was about shipping ships.
39:37
Like no, just spaceships. Well, hopefully they liked the
39:43
episode anyway. I think it was.
39:46
I actually really enjoyed re listening to it.
39:48
It was funny. I laughed out loud I don't even
39:50
know how many times. I love how much we made each
39:52
other laugh in that. Episode Well, we're going to do
39:55
more episodes so. Yes.
39:58
So we asked, at the end of that episode, we asked what are some
40:01
other ships people would like us to dive into?
40:04
And Laura said the High Republic Jedi vectors, they are attuned
40:08
to the Force and are powered by lightsabers.
40:11
Yes, let's do that one. That's awesome, Kevin asked.
40:18
Any idea how much a Star Destroyer would cost to build a
40:21
nonfiction Earth? Money.
40:22
And I did actually find an article.
40:25
Oh my gosh, what? What was it?
40:27
I can't even imagine. There was a Forbes article that
40:30
said, quote, a Star Destroyer would cost $636 billion to
40:36
build. OMG.
40:43
Also it says it would cost $44.4 trillion to get it off of Earth
40:51
so it could go to Mars. So it's never happening is what
40:56
you're what you're saying? It can't get through our
40:59
atmosphere for real. So yeah, no, it's, it's way too
41:02
big. But then Ben, our friend Ben
41:05
also sent me that he would like us to dive into the Naboo and
41:09
1:00. Starfighter.
41:10
There is a schematic for it. I have it.
41:13
Yeah. That is when we have to.
41:16
They are so cool how they're designed.
41:19
Yeah, we need to add that to the list.
41:21
Yes, Thank you. They're.
41:22
Kind of reminiscent of if it's the one I'm thinking of, they're
41:26
kind of reminiscent of like 1950s or even earlier, like the
41:30
original airplanes that are kind of.
41:33
They're like rope, the power. Fuse, yeah.
41:36
Yeah, I'm down. I'm down for.
41:37
That I think it's really cool. Put it on the list.
41:43
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41:45
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41:49
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