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CNN Founder Ted Turner Has Died | ‘Medical News’ with Dr. Jim Keany · The Bill Handel Show

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Speaker 2: Wednesday May six, Coming up to the bottom of the hour,
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Speaker 2: it's medical news with doctor Jim Keeney and some of
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Speaker 2: the big stories that we are covering. JFRFK Jr. Announced
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Speaker 2: a plan just now. It reduces the over prescribing of
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Speaker 2: psychiatric medications and ask for alternative treatment options. And as
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Speaker 2: much as I hate OURFK Junior and his ideas, since
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Speaker 2: I take a lot of psychotropic psychotropic drugs, especially anti
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Speaker 2: anxiety drugs, I just don't care. I'm fine with that.
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Speaker 2: Nothing bothers me on that one. Okay, moving on to
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Speaker 2: news that just broke this morning. Ted Turner has died.
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Speaker 2: He was eighty seven years old. And Ted Turner, if
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Speaker 2: you don't know who he is in his background, one
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Speaker 2: of the most extraordinary characters in the past fifty years,
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Speaker 2: an interesting guy to say the least. He was and
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Speaker 2: always will be, the presiding spirit of CNN, according to
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Speaker 2: the CEO, Mark Thompson. And why is that Because he
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Speaker 2: created CNN. He was one of the kings of broadcasting,
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Speaker 2: a visionary, so he turned Turner Broadcasting System into this behemoth,
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Speaker 2: and he established the superstation concept. He created that, and
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Speaker 2: that's with satellite technology. He took this station in Atlanta
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Speaker 2: and transmitted it all over the US and became as
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Speaker 2: opposed to the networks that were affiliate organized or the
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Speaker 2: affiliate connected, the normal network, the normal network model in
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Speaker 2: which ABCCBS owned just five five radio and television stations.
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Speaker 2: He had one that covered every place in America. And
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Speaker 2: he launched CNN, the first cable twenty four hour news
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Speaker 2: station of which we're used to all the time he
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Speaker 2: created it, it was brand new, no one had any idea.
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Speaker 2: He also launched TBS, TNT cartoon network, Turner Classic Movies.
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Speaker 2: He totally transformed culture in politics with CNN, and it
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Speaker 2: changed the format and speed of TV news and was
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Speaker 2: the precursor of Fox and msnbcms now. He bought owned
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Speaker 2: the Atlanta Braves for a period of time and he
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Speaker 2: marketed that as America's team. So CNN was America's news
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Speaker 2: channel and America's team was Turner the Braves. Because he
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Speaker 2: created he also created a bunch of restaurants too, which
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Speaker 2: were highly successful. He was just he ran into trouble
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Speaker 2: for comments he made on world affairs religion. Nickname was
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Speaker 2: Captain Outrageous. He was also a philanthropist and environmentalist. He
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Speaker 2: called himself a do gooder. He gave a billion dollars
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Speaker 2: the United Nations, and that was back in the nineties
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Speaker 2: when a billion dollars actually was a lot of money.
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Speaker 2: He was a big organizer against the nuclear threat. Now
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Speaker 2: how it all started. His father was this wealthy billboard
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Speaker 2: advertising guy who owned Turner Advertising. So here is Ted
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Speaker 2: enrolling at Brown University in nineteen fifty six, kicked out
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Speaker 2: of Brown for having a woman in his dorm room.
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Speaker 2: Good for him, and then he joined his father at
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Speaker 2: the family business. The business was going south. His dad
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Speaker 2: killed himself, had all kinds of mental health issues, and
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Speaker 2: Ted Turner took over the advertising company, and man did
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Speaker 2: he take it. He took a billboard company, renamed Turner
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Speaker 2: Communication and bought several radio stations and then branched out
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Speaker 2: into other media. He bought this really low level losing
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Speaker 2: money UHF television station in Atlanta, also rights to old
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Speaker 2: movies and sitcom reruns, and created out of all that
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Speaker 2: TNT Turner Broadcasting, buying old movies, which no one was
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Speaker 2: really doing colorizing old movies, and he was a pioneer
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Speaker 2: in that, I mean, just incredible. He ended up buying MGM,
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Speaker 2: which included MGM's library of more than four thousand movies.
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Speaker 2: But you talk about someone who had vision and with that,
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Speaker 2: and I remember I was watching those movies. They were terrific,
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Speaker 2: and it's you know, it just goes on and on.
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Speaker 2: He loved nature, hiking, fly fishing, horse riding, all of it.
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Speaker 2: He bought a zillion acres in Montana. He ended up
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Speaker 2: marrying Jane Fonda, and the two of them were huge
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Speaker 2: environmentalists and just staggering, staggering, staggering character, which I had,
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Speaker 2: you know, tremendous respect because he's just that kind of guy.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he went against the mold a lot like
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Speaker 2: Elon Musk, but far more interesting. And he once said
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Speaker 2: something very interesting because he was a billionaire and he
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Speaker 2: gave away an enormous amount of money, and he said,
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Speaker 2: you know what, past a certain point, you can have
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Speaker 2: all the jets, you can have all the boats, you
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Speaker 2: can live wherever you want, you can buy any property.
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Speaker 2: No one really needs more than one hundred million dollars.
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Speaker 1: All.
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Speaker 2: Hey, you know after that is just scorekeeping. So Ted Turner,
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Speaker 2: all right, oh, a little handle history, and I want
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Speaker 2: to give you a scenario. The government decides that immigrants
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Speaker 2: are ruining our society, they're taking our jobs, they're sucking
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Speaker 2: up resources, and we can't let them in. We have
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Speaker 2: to stop immigrants. And if they're here, let's throw them out. Okay,
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Speaker 2: have you heard that philosophy at all in the past
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Speaker 2: several years, Well, that was the same philosophy. Well, this
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Speaker 2: is the same philosophy that happened in nineteen thirty six.
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Speaker 2: And I'm going to give you a little bit of
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Speaker 2: handle history. LA Police Chief James Davis at that point
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Speaker 2: and then developed deployed officers to California border towns. I'm
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Speaker 2: talking about outside of La California border towns, and what
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Speaker 2: he created was the bum Blockade because of fears that
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Speaker 2: migrants would steal jobs drain public resources. This is during
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Speaker 2: the Great Depression. So this squad of officers from the
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Speaker 2: LAPD went to this little it's just an example, because
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Speaker 2: they were all over the place, went to this little
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Speaker 2: mountain town near the Oregon border, and they stationed themselves
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Speaker 2: along the Southern Pacific railroad tracks and eyebawled passengers coming
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Speaker 2: into California on trains looking for hints of poverty, dirty clothes,
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Speaker 2: worn luggage, a weary expression, the wrong color, and if
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Speaker 2: the riders look shabby, the police stopped them straight out.
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Speaker 2: You're not coming into California, simple, we don't want you here.
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Speaker 2: LAPD at the Oregon border right, and we're still arguing
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Speaker 2: who should be allowed in this episode, man was extraordinary
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Speaker 2: in US immigration history. Americans trying to stop Americans from
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Speaker 2: crossing state lines. The officers took our fingerprints, wrote detailed
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Speaker 2: descriptions of our clothing and baggage, and asked us many questions.
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Speaker 2: One of the fun loving participants of this discrimination wrote, so,
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Speaker 2: it was February of nineteen thirty six and dust Bowl
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Speaker 2: refugees were coming from Oyokahoma, Texas all over that part
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Speaker 2: of the country, and they were known as Okies and
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Speaker 2: coming to California. And the problem is La Powerbroker's a
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Speaker 2: scandal plague police chief, a corrupt mayor, the changer of
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Speaker 2: chamber of commerce, and the staunchly anti union pro police
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Speaker 2: La times. So here comes the bum blockade one hundred
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Speaker 2: and thirty six officers to twenty six or to sixteen
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Speaker 2: ports of entry bordering Nevada, Arizona, and Oregon and their mission.
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Speaker 2: This is a front page story in the LA Times
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Speaker 2: to turn back those migratory indigen indigens believed to be
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Speaker 2: scores of criminals, carrying diseases and generally ruining our society. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's pretty scary stuff. We sure have reversed that.
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Speaker 1: Now, how filthy are you?
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Speaker 2: Come on? Yeah? Yeah, And all this came how of
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Speaker 2: the California because the end all be all for where
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Speaker 2: the okies wanted to come. Well, you go back a
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Speaker 2: year or a decade earlier, LA civic boosters in real estate,
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Speaker 2: folks lured tourists. Why, because southern California was a pair
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Speaker 2: of ice, orange groves, eternal sunshine. We had a film
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Speaker 2: industry and oil boom going on, and in ten years
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Speaker 2: the population doubled. Well by the nineteen thirties, the jobs
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Speaker 2: dried up. You had the dust bowl where these dust
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Speaker 2: storms wiped out agriculture, and you then had migrants. They
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Speaker 2: wanted jobs and look at La, what a great place
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Speaker 2: to go. Because the news didn't spread that the depression
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Speaker 2: hit La or hit southern California the same way. No,
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Speaker 2: you got jobs, You got sunshine, you have a great
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Speaker 2: place to live, you have oranges that you just pick
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Speaker 2: right off the trees. And so migrants were blamed for
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Speaker 2: effectively the depression. No jobs because of migrants. They took
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Speaker 2: our jobs. And what do you think the number one,
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Speaker 2: number one group of migrants Mexican descent, and a lot
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Speaker 2: of American citizens were swept up in mass deportation or
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Speaker 2: coerced to leave the country in order to save jobs
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Speaker 2: for real Americans, as the Hoover administration put it. Oky's
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Speaker 2: were accused of stealing the jobs, sucking up those public resources,
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Speaker 2: being communist sympathizer. That was a big one in those days.
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Speaker 2: And so you're right, things have changed dramatically. We have
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Speaker 2: not gone very far away from nineteen thirty six. Now,
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Speaker 2: is it the same thing that's happening now? Well, not
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Speaker 2: as bad, because one thing the LAPD can't do is
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Speaker 2: go to the border of Arizona and California and turn
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Speaker 2: away people from coming into the state. But what happened
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Speaker 2: in southern California with the LAPD, translate that to the
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Speaker 2: federal government that's going on today now. Whether or not
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Speaker 2: you are on one side or the other, you believe
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Speaker 2: in stopping immigration or you don't. What I just gave
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Speaker 2: you was a bit of history, and tell me history
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Speaker 2: doesn't repeat itself. Okay, some of the stories where we
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Speaker 2: are looking at, uh and uh, let me see which
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Speaker 2: ones we want to talk about. R f K Junior
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Speaker 2: announced a plan to reduce over prescribing of psychiatric medication.
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Speaker 2: And I really don't care because I take a lot
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Speaker 2: of medication anti anxiety medication and that makes me just
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Speaker 2: not get a rats and so usually I hate RFK.
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Speaker 2: But you know, okay, fine, we have yeah on the rundown. Yeah, no,
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Speaker 2: it's true. And also coming up, well, there's another story,
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Speaker 2: and that is what's happening aboard that cruise ship with
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Speaker 2: haunta virus. Now three people dead, and that is the
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Speaker 2: topic I want to start with with doctor Jim, chief
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Speaker 2: medical officer for Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in Long
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Speaker 2: Beach and e R. Doctor Jim, Good.
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Speaker 1: Morning, morning Bill.
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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen hauntavirus in the er? No?
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Speaker 1: I haven't. It's a rare disease, you know. So this
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Speaker 1: is not a story where we say, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 1: there's an outbreak happening and we all need to be careful.
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Speaker 1: But it's an interesting disease, and especially the fact that
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Speaker 1: it showed up on a cruise ship, because you know,
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Speaker 1: it's typically associated with rodents and exposure to rat poop
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Speaker 1: and here we are on a cruise ship and it's
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Speaker 1: been spread.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know that hunt a Virus's interesting I
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Speaker 2: thought is that the people that got it were runners
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Speaker 2: in great shape, and you wouldn't think they'd get the diseases,
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Speaker 2: but they were running along trails and there was obviously
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Speaker 2: outside there are rats, and they were picking it up.
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Speaker 2: And then the story about that just happened with oh
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Speaker 2: my god, that I just forget his name, Jean Gene Hackman,
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Speaker 2: who his wife had it and he ended up dying
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Speaker 2: because he was in such severe state of dementia that
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Speaker 2: he couldn't feed himself yet and know what he's doing.
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Speaker 2: So it's coming in the news rate a death.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good question. Cruise ship, like how
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Speaker 1: did it get on there? So there's two possibilities, right,
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Speaker 1: One is that this was that the people that were
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Speaker 1: exposed all got exposed at the same time to something
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Speaker 1: that had haunted virus in it. So there may have
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Speaker 1: been some rat droppings and it has to be aerosolized,
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Speaker 1: you have to breathe it in, and then all three
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Speaker 1: of them were exposed at the same time. The other
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Speaker 1: possibility is that the Andy's version of a haunt of virus.
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Speaker 1: So haunt of virus is a group of viruses, it's
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Speaker 1: not one single virus. So in Europe it causes renal failure,
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Speaker 1: it causes hemorrhagic fever, and that euro Asian version causes
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Speaker 1: those kind of symptoms. The South American version causes more
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Speaker 1: of this pulmonary problem and the pulmonary cardiovascular failure, and
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Speaker 1: it can be spread person to person, which is unusual.
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Speaker 1: It's rare, but it can happen. So it's possible that
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Speaker 1: one person was exposed to rat droppings and then that
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Speaker 1: person exposed the other three from a person to person contact.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's eighteen or twenty people that are
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Speaker 2: sick still, and they're doing obviously a lot of segregating
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Speaker 2: those people and quarantining them, et cetera. So one of
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Speaker 2: the things that's going on is we watch this in
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Speaker 2: the news. It's a cruise ship that's parked outside of
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Speaker 2: Cape Verdie right now in Africa, and no one is
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Speaker 2: letting those people off the boat. They're all staying there,
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Speaker 2: so I guess there's a run us course, who is
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Speaker 2: ever going to die is going to die, and then
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Speaker 2: the rest of folks are going to live.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's really the treatments are supportive. So
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Speaker 1: Number one, this has about a forty percent death rate,
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Speaker 1: so very high death rate once you develop the pulmonary
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Speaker 1: symptoms or the pneumonia, and that's kind of held over
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Speaker 1: the years.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: I mean I learned about this when you and I
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Speaker 1: first did the stories. In nineteen ninety three, we had
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Speaker 1: an outbreak of hauntavirus in the four Corner States and
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Speaker 1: then since then the CDCs followed it. They've only gotten
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Speaker 1: about four hundred cases over that entire time, so it's
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Speaker 1: not super common. But during that time also in the
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Speaker 1: United States, of those four hundred people, about forty percent died,
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Speaker 1: so that's a pretty consistent death rate. And all you
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Speaker 1: can do is supportive care. It's almost like remember when
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Speaker 1: we had the COVID outbreak. Initially, all we could do
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Speaker 1: was supportive care. We were just putting them on ventilators
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Speaker 1: if they needed it, giving fluids, those type of things,
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Speaker 1: and that's all you can do in this case as well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, now I'm assuming when you have a disease that's
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Speaker 2: this rare. No, there's no pharmaceutical company is going to
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Speaker 2: deal with it. They're not going to develop anything. Just
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Speaker 2: either you die or you don't die. Where COVID, everybody
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Speaker 2: got it, and where HIV AIDS, so many people got
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Speaker 2: it that the pharmaceutical compacy did dive into it. When
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Speaker 2: you talk about four hundred deaths since nineteen ninety three,
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Speaker 2: we have a population now of what three hundred and
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Speaker 2: forty million, but over the thirty years the population the
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Speaker 2: people had to be seven hundred million people because people
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Speaker 2: die and they're replaced, so there's a lot of folks
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Speaker 2: out there. So four hundred out of all of those
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Speaker 2: hundreds of millions. Is it's just a tiny little news item,
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Speaker 2: is it? When there's nothing that doctor will even think about.
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Speaker 1: No, I mean we because we got to think about this.
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Speaker 1: And the reason that this is a news article is
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Speaker 1: because if this is person the person transmission, it totally
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Speaker 1: changes it, right, all of a sudden, if we can
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Speaker 1: have an outbreak like that, and now it depends on
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Speaker 1: you know, we learned again during COVID, everybody learned about
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Speaker 1: the transmission rate, the row number, and does it for
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Speaker 1: every you know, one person that's exposed, how many people
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Speaker 1: get the infection? So will this you know, will this
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Speaker 1: perpetuate itself or will it just burn out? And right now,
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Speaker 1: I mean, it looks like it probably will burn out.
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Speaker 1: That's that seems to be the most likely case for
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Speaker 1: something like this virus. But in the future, if this
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Speaker 1: starts to spread person to person, then you're talking about
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Speaker 1: another major disaster.
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Speaker 2: All right, e bikes, let's go to that, Jim. How
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Speaker 2: dangerous are e bikes? And I'm assuming that that's pretty
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Speaker 2: high up on the danger list.
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Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you it's it's been great for
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Speaker 1: the trauma business. You know, we see a lot of
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Speaker 1: e bike trauma. And you know in Orange County, especially
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Speaker 1: where penetrating trauma meaning gunshots and stab wounds are much
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Speaker 1: less than say the LA area, it's a significant maybe
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Speaker 1: you know, thirty to fifty percent of our blunt trauma
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Speaker 1: meaning you know trauma happens from stuff like motorcycle accidents
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Speaker 1: and falls, is from e bikes. E bikes are you know,
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Speaker 1: just insane how much this has exploded injuries, So, you know,
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Speaker 1: it is it's basically a little motorcycle, and the problem is,
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Speaker 1: you know that's fine, but we're giving them to young
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Speaker 1: children who really don't have the maturity level yet to
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Speaker 1: understand the issues of speed. Then you add on top
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Speaker 1: of that the fact that most of these can be
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Speaker 1: modified after purchase, so you can get an E bike
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Speaker 1: that's a true E bike. It's a Class one or
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Speaker 1: Class two meaning pedal assist, where it'll only go up
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Speaker 1: to twenty miles an hour. That's still a really good,
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Speaker 1: solid speed that requires a helmet, and if you get
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Speaker 1: an injury in an accident, you're going to be seriously injured.
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Speaker 1: But you can modify most of them now so that
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Speaker 1: there'll be a Class three they'll go twenty eight miles
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Speaker 1: an hour, and then beyond that, they now have ones
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Speaker 1: that are literally E motorcycles. They will go insane speeds,
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Speaker 1: and you have young kids riding these things. So in
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Speaker 1: the case of the man that was injured in Lake
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Speaker 1: Forest by this fourteen year old, it was, I understand,
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Speaker 1: a very powerful E motorcycle, and yet you know, the
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Speaker 1: kid's only fourteen years old. How is he going to
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Speaker 1: have the life experience to understand the significance of going
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Speaker 1: high speeds, doing wheelies and potentially you know, killing someone. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I think there was one
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Speaker 2: story of a fourteen year old killing this man the
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Speaker 2: Vietnam VET and the mother was arrested the whole same story.
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Speaker 2: I think he was thirteen at the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
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Speaker 2: The number of bicycle injuries I'm assuming has dropped dramatically
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Speaker 2: because a lot of those bicycle riders have switched over.
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Speaker 1: To e bikes cats. I mean it's rare you see
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Speaker 1: an analog by going down the street these days, right
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Speaker 1: with somebody actually peddling it. It's almost shocking to see that,
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Speaker 1: or at least in around here in Orange County, every
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Speaker 1: kid seems to have an e bike. And that's the
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Speaker 1: thing is parents need to realize they're not toys. They
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Speaker 1: need to require helmet use. There have to be consequences
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Speaker 1: for when you when you don't do those things or
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Speaker 1: when you're you know, you got to tell the kids
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Speaker 1: no stunts. You know that that just increases your risk
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Speaker 1: when you're driving down the street. You got to follow
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Speaker 1: the actual rules of the road. I was making a
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Speaker 1: left hand turn the other day and a kid came
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Speaker 1: down the center line and just cut through an intersection
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Speaker 1: down that center line when you're making a left hand
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Speaker 1: turn behind me, that's not where you're typically looking. You know,
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Speaker 1: they don't know that right because they don't drive yet.
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Speaker 1: But no driver is looking behind them while they're making
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Speaker 1: on the left side when they're making a left hand
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Speaker 1: turn in an intersection. I almost killed the kid and
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Speaker 1: just happened to see him at the last minute and
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Speaker 1: stop the car. So you've got to follow the rules
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Speaker 1: of the road. You got to. And parents need to
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Speaker 1: reinforce this and talk about how serious it is. And
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Speaker 1: maybe this case where this mother is going to be
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Speaker 1: brought up on involuntary manslaughter charges will bring home the
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Speaker 1: importance of doing that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. Certainly, negligent supervision and a bunch
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Speaker 2: of other charges. One thing I noticed is a lot
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Speaker 2: of these teenage men, young men who not only do wheelies,
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Speaker 2: they've actually practiced to where the wheelies they can actually
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Speaker 2: drive down the street with the front wheel up. And
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Speaker 2: while they're doing that, they're bouncing off the seat and
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Speaker 2: standing up and just doing these crazy circus stunts. And
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Speaker 2: I'm seeing those more and more so. The kind of
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Speaker 2: injuries that you're seeing I'm assuming broken bones a lot
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Speaker 2: of those. Are you seeing head injuries? I'm assuming even
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Speaker 2: with the helmets.
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Speaker 1: Even with the helmets, we see head injuries. I mean,
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Speaker 1: helmets aren't one hundred percent perfect. You know, they will
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Speaker 1: protect you, but at the same time, you know, so
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Speaker 1: something that might have been instant death instead will be
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Speaker 1: a serious brain injury. But you know, if you're going
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Speaker 1: forty miles an hour and you hit the pavement, you're
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Speaker 1: gonna have brain damage. You know, you're gonna have a
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Speaker 1: head injury that's serious, no matter what. If with the
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Speaker 1: helmet you'll survive, but without the helmet you may have died.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because I don't know if we've talked
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Speaker 2: about that, but helmets, in a strange way, are one
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Speaker 2: of the worst things that society has come up with,
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Speaker 2: because someone dying is someone dying. Someone with a serious
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Speaker 2: brain injury has to be taken care of for his
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Speaker 2: or her entire life, and all of a sudden, you're
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Speaker 2: now talking millions and millions of dollars, especially when insurance
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Speaker 2: runs out, and they're on the government tab or the
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Speaker 2: taxpayers pay.
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Speaker 1: So that's a very economic way to look at it.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, but the truth is that for the minor injuries,
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Speaker 1: it probably turns what would have been a head injury
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Speaker 1: into you walk away with nothing. So there's still, I think,
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Speaker 1: on balance, a good thing and probably reduce the cost
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Speaker 1: of society overall.
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Speaker 2: You and I should argue that one at some point. Also,
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Speaker 2: as far as parents are concerned, it's probably easier just
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Speaker 2: dealing with a dead kid. And I know that sounds
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Speaker 2: horrible than dealing with a vegetable for a lifetime. Just
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Speaker 2: saying okay, that's me actually being fairly, I would say, no, no,
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Speaker 2: that's not true. Okay, never mind. I was going to
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Speaker 2: go and compliment myself about death, but I've decided not to.
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Speaker 2: All Right, Jim, we'll talk again again next week as
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Speaker 2: we always do. Oh you here, all right, Jim Keeney
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Speaker 2: and Jim and I. Whenever we talk, whenever we have
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Speaker 2: lunch or dinner together, we end up talking a lot
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Speaker 2: about this death stuff. Okay, we're done. That's completely finished.
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Speaker 2: taking care of everything for us, which is why the
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Speaker 2: show sounds so terrific because of them. Okay, that was
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Speaker 2: a compliment, by the way, just to let you know,
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Speaker 2: even though it didn't sound like it smooth. Thank you.
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