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7.19.26 Seth Grossman WPG Radio. “Vote Harvesting” by government funded “community organizers” is bad, but it is not illegal fraud. The solution is changing law back to in-person voting on one Election Day. Bring back Elon Musk DOGE cuts. · Seth Grossman – Liberty and Prosperity

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  - And we bring in the one and only
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  - how
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  - New Jersey shaped America that four minute introduction
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  - to the book that was on your program.
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  - One of the, I guess media people a
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  - guy called John Jurgaitis of of the Down
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  - Beach Buzz
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  - turned that into
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  - a a four minute video, which is very
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  - Certainly, we we gave the books away on
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  - the July 4, but,
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  - it is well worth reading. Anyway, about Trump's
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  - speech, I I thought it was interesting.
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  - His top points he brought up of, for
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  - example, non citizen voting. Well, the best way
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  - to stop non citizens from voting is to
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  - deport illegals
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  - and to
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  - and if
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  - anyone who's a non citizen here with a
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  - green card breaks the law
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  - revoke their green card and deport them and
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  - basically that's what Trump has been doing for
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  - the past year
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  - and,
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  - really non citizen voting,
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  - is really not a big problem right now
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  - because of that. Because even though some non
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  - citizens,
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  - may be on the books,
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  - now that they see what is happening,
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  - to people who who get a
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  - traffic ticket or a drug charge or anything,
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  - they're getting deported. So
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  - I think that's pretty much under control.
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  - When
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  - President Trump talked about the interference in election,
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  - About China getting the names of our voters
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  - and then getting information to them to influence
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  - their vote.
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  - You know, sadly whether the Chinese or anyone
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  - else
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  - gets that voter information, we're an open society
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  - and there's nothing you could do,
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  - to get people from getting public records, public
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  - information
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  - and using them to influence them, people.
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  - So China has been doing that
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  - but the
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  - probably even bigger than China, Qatar Q A
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  - T A R.
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  - That's basically a Muslim Brotherhood country and they've
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  - pumped $62,000,000,000
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  - into our colleges and high schools
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  - during the past thirty years. The influence,
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  - you know how our students
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  - feel and how they
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  - vote. So there's really no substitute
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  - for
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  - educating our children. You know getting them off
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  - TikTok,
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  - having them read books,
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  - you know ditch the the screens,
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  - learn critical
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  - how to tell a lie from the truth
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  - by by analyzing it and so
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  - you know that's not an easy thing to
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  - do but we have to focus on it
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  - and I think my sixteen seventy six book
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  - points that out. You know there's you just
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  - have to read
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  - the thing that made civilization
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  - was when the cavemen used to swap stories
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  - around the campfire
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  - and you can't you know learn a lifetime
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  - of experience
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  - of somebody and you know you actually can't
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  - learn everything you need to know in a
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  - lifetime.
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  - You need hundreds and thousands of years of
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  - collective wisdom
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  - to live in a normal
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  - comfortable civilized society and that means reading books
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  - and what's happening if people stop reading books
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  - and they just you know go by what
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  - they see on tick tock or on TV
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  - we're right back to the caveman days of
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  - swapping stories around a campfire
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  - so we have to you know teach our
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  - children how to read. We have to read.
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  - We have to get back to those Bible
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  - values. We have to go back to the
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  - golden rule doing to others
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  - as you would want others to do into
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  - you.
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  - You can't if there's a failure in your
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  - life we got to learn from Ben Franklin
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  - learn a skill work with other people
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  - save your money
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  - form partnerships
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  - get married do these things to achieve success
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  - for yourself
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  - instead of being jealous at somebody else and
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  - wanting the government to take something from somebody
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  - else and give it to you now we
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  - have to give it to you. Now we
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  - have to use logic and reason again so,
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  - yeah it's easy to complain about Chinese influencer
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  - or or Qatar in influence or this influence
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  - or that influence but if people are educated
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  - and have principles and moral standards and think
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  - for
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  - identify
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  - the fake stuff and sort it out, and,
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  - then we can move forward.
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  - You know,
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  - you said a lot of things there and
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  - I don't know how you get the young
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  - people off TikTok.
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  - It starts right there, you know.
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  - And you're right. You know, we gotta read
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  - more,
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  - We gotta do more thinking.
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  - And
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  - the,
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  - the the these
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  - TikTok and all these things don't encourage thinking.
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  - Just, you know,
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  - clickbait and all that stuff. So, yeah, it's
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  - it's it's a very good point.
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  - And and it's a painful thing and I
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  - was there upfront and personal because I I
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  - spent two weeks on vacation,
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  - you know, with my daughter, son-in-law, and grandkids.
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  - And it is very, very tempting. You wanna
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  - enjoy dinner, you wanna talk.
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  - Kids are getting are distracted
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  - they're bored they're running around it's very easy
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  - to take that cell phone put a game
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  - on it and stick it in front of
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  - the kid that's a great pacifier for twenty
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  - minutes
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  - But the long term damage is well documented
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  - and you just have to resist it. You
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  - just have to say, well, you know, almost
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  - like our parents. Our parents didn't go out
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  - to eat, you know, every
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  - night. Then you go out to eat every
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  - week was a important thing you know meals
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  - at home
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  - but the discipline of getting kids that if
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  - they're bored they they can't just feel
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  - that I just pick up a cell phone
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  - pick up a screen you know pick up
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  - an iPad
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  - and have somebody entertain me all the time
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  - you know that's that's something
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  - that it because if we do that
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  - then yeah if people rely on the screen
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  - for everything
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  - it's very easy to influence them to to
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  - do some very bad things, not just the
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  - politics. So so Trump touched on that, but
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  - I think we have to take it the
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  - rest of the way and learn the the
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  - long term,
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  - problems.
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  - I agree. I agree. Yeah. That definitely. I
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  - agree. I mean, Trump Trump was right about
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  - the, we need a voter ID that would
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  - cut down on on fraud.
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  - The the idea of being able to hack
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  - voting machines.
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  - To me, who's been in politics my entire
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  - life,
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  - it's it absolutely baffles me
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  - why when we in New Jersey
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  - had these machines, these voting machines called Schoop
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  - mechanical voting machines.
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  - We had those voting machines in New Jersey
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  - since 1890.
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  - They were mechanical not electronic.
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  - You know, there was a counter,
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  - you opened up the counter at it when
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  - the polls close at 08:00 at night. Everyone
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  - knew how they worked. If the counter didn't
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  - work, there was a backup register tape that
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  - recorded every vote and suddenly in the 1890s
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  - or rather in the 1990s and you know
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  - just you know thirty years ago we got
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  - rid of them all and got this complicated
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  - computer stuff that we have now
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  - and it was done when we had Republican
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  - governor, Christie Todd Whitman,
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  - Republican
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  - state senate, Republican legislator. We had Bill Gormley,
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  - all those Republicans and they got rid of
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  - those mechanical voting machines. It would be so
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  - easy to just get them back because we
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  - know they worked for a hundred years.
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  - But that, you know, maybe someone who
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  - one of the county officials could could talk
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  - about
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  - why that happened and why we can't go
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  - back to it.
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  - Well well, we have a lot of questions
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  - for them. That that that'll be another one.
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  - But but by the way, the biggest,
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  - problem that is causing Republicans to lose,
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  - and I know I've talked about this a
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  - lot,
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  - and and that's the legal vote harvesting.
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  - I think I'm an expert on elections because
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  - my first election when I was like 26
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  - years old, I lost by three votes.
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  - And then I got elected
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  - as a county commissioner
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  - by one vote.
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  - And I saw how it works and and
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  - the real problem
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  - is is not, you know, illegal votes are
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  - always a problem and Democrats have always
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  - had an advantage
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  - in voter theft because Democrats believe government is
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  - important.
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  - So so they wanna win the election so
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  - they could get free stuff from the government.
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  - It comes naturally to them. But the biggest
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  - problem is not the illegal votes, it's the
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  - legal votes.
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  - And if you look at the people, whenever
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  - you see a Republican is ahead on election
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  - night
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  - and then you'll see in the next two
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  - or three days these paper ballots come in,
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  - and you know with and and they go
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  - 90% for the Democrats, 98%
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  - for the Democrats.
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  - And and it's easy to think that there's
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  - fraud going on, but what is really happening
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  - is voting voter harvesters.
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  - You got these, community organizers.
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  - They're in these organizations
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  - that are funded by the government.
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  - They give out three electric bill vouchers. Vouchers.
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  - You know, free food vouchers,
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  - free this, free that,
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  - free housing vouchers.
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  - And they get a whole class of people
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  - who are dependent on them.
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  - And then before the election, they just go
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  - around. You know, the people who are on
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  - their drug program, their alcohol program, their, you
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  - know, psychiatric
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  - program, mental health, all that stuff.
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  - These people would never be voting ordinarily
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  - because some of them are drunk, some of
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  - them are on drugs, some of them are
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  - sick, some of them have legitimate problems, some
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  - of them are old, some of them are
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  - nursing homes.
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  - But the fact is all these people are
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  - dependent
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  - on some organization
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  - to to to keep them
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  - going. And so about a month before the
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  - election, the the same people who give them
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  - the benefit say, oh, by the way, if
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  - you want the funding to keep going, if
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  - you want the program to keep going here,
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  - vote for these candidates and they'll keep us
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  - going.
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  - That's the real problem
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  - And Elon Musk identified it with his Doge,
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  - doge,
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  - and,
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  - and and and it's encouraged by this vote
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  - harvest. We've got to get back to one
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  - election day. Because if we went back to
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  - one election day, 95%
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  - of those people would not be voting, and
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  - that's the key to honest elections. But to
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  - to say it's fraud,
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  - it it's not really fraud because it's technically
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  - legal. You you always bring up some complicated
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  - issues.
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  - I I I know. And and that's the
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  - whole idea. When Goldman gets complicated, it gets
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  - corrupt because people can't follow all the details.
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  - And that's why we gotta make it simple
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  - again. You know, why things are so expensive
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  - and why it's so difficult to do business
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  - in the state. I just realized three weeks
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  - ago that my book, sixteen seventy six project,
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  - every time I sell a book I have
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  - to charge sales tax on it. So only,
• 11:48
  - certain books or exempt from this sales tax,
• 11:50
  - certain textbooks, but not mine.
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  - So I I wanted to pay my sales
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  - tax. So,
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  - I spent the last four days,
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  - trying to contact the state to,
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  - to pay you know, how do I register
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  - and pay the sales tax? They have this
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  - whole website
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  - on how to do business in New Jersey.
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  - And and I was surprised that there was
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  - no special stuff on the website
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  - that would tell someone who's a I'm in
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  - business. I want to know how to pay
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  - my sales tax. You had to go to
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  - one site to another. But what I did
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  - get,
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  - they were steering me into
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  - if you're in small business, how the government
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  - can help you make money.
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  - And so
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  - and and and it gave, detailed of how
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  - I could be certified
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  - for all these categories of businesses. And they
• 12:37
  - kept telling me that if I get a
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  - certification
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  - for these businesses
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  - then I could get extra government contracts that
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  - I wouldn't get ordinarily.
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  - And it's amazing,
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  - I I think there are nine. They they
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  - give you instructions how to get a small
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  - business enterprise certification,
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  - how to get a socially and economically
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  - disadvantaged business certificate,
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  - how to get an emerging,
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  - small business enterprise certificate,
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  - how to get an urban enterprise zone certificate,
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  - how to get certified as a disabled veteran.
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  - How to get certified as a non disabled
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  - veteran. How to be a certification be a
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  - disadvantaged
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  - business enterprise.
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  - How to get an LGBTQ
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  - plus business certification.
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  - And how to get a minority women owned
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  - business certification.
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  - So in other words instead of just telling
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  - ordinary people
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  - here's how you pay your taxes, here's how
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  - you stay in compliance, they're trying to get
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  - every business
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  - dependent
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  - on government contracts by qualifying for these special
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  - things. And this is why
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  - everything is so expensive. So I I just
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  - got a real education there.
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  - Welcome to the state of New Jersey.
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  - Yeah.
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  - And and and of course, the big story
• 13:49
  - last week, we we didn't get to talk
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  - to is the state wants to spend
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  - $50,000,000
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  - in the study
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  - to build to improve our convention center which
• 13:59
  - is almost empty we actually have two empty
• 14:01
  - convention centers in Atlantic City and they want
• 14:04
  - to do that because they want to because
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  - they want us, the state wants to spend
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  - $3,000,000,000
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  - to build a new convention center in Rutherford.
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  - And we keep forgetting that if you go
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  - to Orlando in Florida, you go to Texas,
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  - you find out that the government doesn't run
• 14:18
  - convention centers. You have the Gaylord,
• 14:22
  - you know, Palms in in Orlando. You have
• 14:24
  - the Gaylord
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  - Opaland in Nashville
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  - and and the government doesn't pay a dime
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  - to build these first class convention centers. They're
• 14:33
  - hotels. They're fabulous.
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  - And instead of getting money from the government,
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  - they all pay property taxes.
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  - And so instead of having the government build
• 14:41
  - private businesses
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  - that could be built privately and men pay
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  - us taxes,
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  - we don't build the stuff we need to
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  - build. We need a jail in Atlanta County.
• 14:51
  - We need a mental institution in Atlanta County
• 14:54
  - to get all the criminals and crazy people
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  - off the streets and boardwalk who are chasing
• 14:58
  - away the tourists. We need a need a
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  - juvenile jail. I mean you wouldn't believe
• 15:03
  - these dangerous,
• 15:04
  - 16 and 17 year olds who are threatening
• 15:07
  - people and causing fights and doing all these
• 15:09
  - things and chasing tourists away. But we don't
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  - have money to build the public things that
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  - we need
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  - because we're spending too much money on stuff
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  - that the so called economic development that we
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  - we don't need. And I guess the final
• 15:24
  - point of that is,
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  - Atlantic City just declared the the Claridge Hotel
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  - as a historic landmark.
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  - And this weekend is the anniversary of, you
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  - know, Lucy Elephant being a historic landmark.
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  - The Claridge Hotel was built
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  - in less than a year.
• 15:43
  - If if they wanted to build a market
• 15:44
  - elephant today could you imagine how they would
• 15:47
  - get the permits to do that?
• 15:49
  - So in other words, these things are only
• 15:50
  - historic landmarks
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  - because business people can't
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  - possibly build today
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  - what we took for granted you know fifty
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  - a hundred years ago before we had all
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  - these crazy zoning rules. You have poor Eustace
• 16:04
  - Meeta in Ocean
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  - City. For years, Wonderland Pier has been broke,
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  - and and this guy wants to build a
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  - five story hotel, and he can't build it.
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  - So,
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  - anyway, all this is post at libertyandtrust30.com,
• 16:19
  - and have a great weekend. You you too,
• 16:21
  - Seth. Thanks thanks for for your input. Seth
• 16:24
  - Grossman, Liberty and Prosperity. The website, libertyandprosperity.com.
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  - Check it out. A lot of good stuff
• 16:30
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