Latest / Chuck Douglas / Ross County Corrections Officer checks in
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I have tried on this day after Christmas for the
- 0:02Speaker 1: most part, to keep things light hearted and kind of
- 0:05Speaker 1: flowing and so forth. I can't ignore the reality. You know.
- 0:08Speaker 1: It is what it is, as I always say, and
- 0:11Speaker 1: I've got to talk about I've got to talk about
- 0:14Speaker 1: this loss of life that happened on Christmas morning a
- 0:20Speaker 1: corrections officer. Now, if you've been with me, around me,
- 0:25Speaker 1: listen to me on my media, my social media and
- 0:28Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, you know.
- 0:31Speaker 2: That I am.
- 0:32Speaker 1: I'm a little zealous when it comes to my affection
- 0:40Speaker 1: for law enforcement in any capacity, and as a corrections officer,
- 0:50Speaker 1: listen closely. As a corrections officer, this man was law enforcement.
- 1:03Speaker 1: He was now it's post crime law enforcement, but his
- 1:09Speaker 1: job was still serving and protecting you and me from
- 1:14Speaker 1: people that couldn't be trusted to be on the streets
- 1:16Speaker 1: with us. And he deserves every bit of consideration and
- 1:24Speaker 1: respect that you are given officer on the streets of
- 1:30Speaker 1: the city. And I hope that you don't just let
- 1:34Speaker 1: this story skate by you. I don't want you to
- 1:41Speaker 1: just you know, I pay no attention because Andrew Lansing
- 1:45Speaker 1: put on a badge, put on his uniform and served
- 1:49Speaker 1: and protected from inside the walls of a prison each
- 1:53Speaker 1: and every day, just like an ecop on the streets
- 1:55Speaker 1: of our city. And I'm so sad and somewhat baffled
- 2:05Speaker 1: that Christmas Day, while you were having your sausage gravy
- 2:10Speaker 1: and watching the kids open presence, this guy went to
- 2:12Speaker 1: work and didn't come home. And the guy that they
- 2:21Speaker 1: said did it, I really don't even know. Look, he
- 2:25Speaker 1: was sentenced back in twenty twenty three, okay about a year,
- 2:30Speaker 1: about a year and a half ago, September of twenty
- 2:32Speaker 1: twenty three, for assaulting a woman with a handgun. Handgun.
- 2:37Speaker 1: He was serving a minimum eight year prison term. Now,
- 2:41Speaker 1: you know how prisons go, as far as I can
- 2:44Speaker 1: see it, they let you out as quick as possible,
- 2:46Speaker 1: as soon as they can justify letting you out, as
- 2:50Speaker 1: long as you don't do something just crazy. So eight years,
- 2:55Speaker 1: which means he's down to about six and a half
- 2:57Speaker 1: six and three quarters years, and he would walk out
- 3:02Speaker 1: of there, you know what would happen that way? So
- 3:07Speaker 1: I don't know what was going through his mind. I
- 3:09Speaker 1: don't know what the situation was. I don't know what
- 3:11Speaker 1: the scenario was that made him decide you know what
- 3:15Speaker 1: life in prison, if not execution, if Ohio ever bothers
- 3:18Speaker 1: to get around to doing that, is a better option
- 3:22Speaker 1: for me than my six and a half years. No idea,
- 3:27Speaker 1: but I just I wanted to say, very openly and
- 3:29Speaker 1: very publicly, when you hear that story, don't let it
- 3:32Speaker 1: just glance off of you and move on. Don't think, oh,
- 3:36Speaker 1: that was in the prison, that's not here, because it
- 3:41Speaker 1: is here. It's in every city in this country. It
- 3:47Speaker 1: is here because this is about people. This is about
- 3:50Speaker 1: the way we treat each other and the way we
- 3:51Speaker 1: allow people to treat us. And it's about having not
- 3:58Speaker 1: only a respect, but an appreciation for those that stand
- 4:02Speaker 1: between us and the bad guys. Andrew Lansing did that,
- 4:10Speaker 1: so God bless his memory and uh and the family
- 4:14Speaker 1: that he leaves behind. Just think about it, Listen intently,
- 4:19Speaker 1: know the details of that story. A two number A
- 4:23Speaker 1: two one w TV, and don't want to don't want
- 4:25Speaker 1: to bring you down, just want to keep you real.
- 4:26Speaker 1: I've got John standing by here. John, you're on the
- 4:29Speaker 1: Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line.
- 4:30Speaker 2: Tyme, Hey, how are you?
- 4:34Speaker 1: I'm doing fairly well considering the shape I'm in.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, I just wanted to comment about Andy Lansing's death.
- 4:45Speaker 2: I knew him very well, worked them for many years
- 4:48Speaker 2: out there at RCI. I'm still out there at RCI.
- 4:50Speaker 2: And the details of where ODRC is not saying is
- 4:56Speaker 2: the amount of drugs that are in prison. The inmates
- 5:00Speaker 2: use drugs every single day. There's a lot of corruption
- 5:05Speaker 2: from the top to the bottom. And Andy Lansing's death
- 5:08Speaker 2: is the result of drugs in the prisons. It's the
- 5:13Speaker 2: second death. There's an inmate death on Sunday. People don't
- 5:16Speaker 2: know these details, but there is. The prisons are flooded
- 5:22Speaker 2: and they killed one of the ro Sean Cannon killed
- 5:27Speaker 2: one of the nicest and kindest officers at RCI. He
- 5:32Speaker 2: was firm, fair and consistent and I do hope he
- 5:34Speaker 2: gets life without possibility of parole and that he dies
- 5:37Speaker 2: in prison someday. But the reason where all this happened,
- 5:42Speaker 2: and the missing piece that ODRC won't say, is the
- 5:45Speaker 2: amount of drugs and violence that are in prison. People
- 5:49Speaker 2: think that it's a drug free environment. These guys get
- 5:52Speaker 2: more drugs in prison than they do on the streets.
- 5:56Speaker 1: John, let me ask you this, that you work within
- 5:58Speaker 1: the system, how has it happened, Yes, sir, How is
- 6:01Speaker 1: this happening? Are our guards? Are guards smuggling it in?
- 6:05Speaker 1: Are they letting people pass without the inspections they should
- 6:09Speaker 1: be getting when they're visiting? Is it upper level dropping
- 6:13Speaker 1: it in and having it?
- 6:14Speaker 2: How?
- 6:14Speaker 1: How is this crap getting into the prisons?
- 6:17Speaker 2: Yeah? Truthfully, I would say ninety is probably staff. ODRC
- 6:23Speaker 2: will blame air Mark and they will blame visitors. But
- 6:28Speaker 2: I had an inmate tell me and he said, I
- 6:30Speaker 2: was here in twenty twenty during the pandemic when there
- 6:32Speaker 2: was a visitation, but there was no visitation, and I
- 6:35Speaker 2: was high every single day. Staff is the reason that
- 6:39Speaker 2: the dirty staff that they don't know who it is.
- 6:42Speaker 2: They're the reason that Andy Lansing's dead. Not I mean
- 6:45Speaker 2: the inmate obviously, of course, but that negative environment and
- 6:49Speaker 2: the drug debts. That's how Andy Lansing died.
- 6:53Speaker 1: I can't imagine that you are the only person that
- 6:55Speaker 1: feels this way. Is there is there a union? Is
- 6:58Speaker 1: there is there there's someone that can bring this conversation
- 7:02Speaker 1: to the table. What you just said is pertinent, It
- 7:04Speaker 1: is relevant, it is it is powerful. It needs to
- 7:07Speaker 1: be said. We need some investigation, not only of the
- 7:10Speaker 1: dirt bag. But of the system that is allowing this
- 7:14Speaker 1: to happen. If what you're saying is true, this is
- 7:16Speaker 1: this is upper level bs man.
- 7:20Speaker 2: Yes, really, what the I mean? It has come down
- 7:24Speaker 2: to general public because as staff, if we go and
- 7:28Speaker 2: try to go against ODRC, they kick us out and
- 7:30Speaker 2: we lose our jobs, unions and cohoots with the with ODRC.
- 7:36Speaker 2: But general public needs to know that at our CI alone,
- 7:40Speaker 2: there's been eight in deaths by murder coupled by suicide,
- 7:44Speaker 2: and I think two by suicide. It's like seven by overdose.
- 7:49Speaker 2: There's been staff injuries. There's on average I think right
- 7:55Speaker 2: now we're trending about one hundred and twenty intoxication trips
- 8:00Speaker 2: that our medical team has to do per month, and
- 8:04Speaker 2: that's average at level three facility.
- 8:07Speaker 1: Is that is that real product, intoxicating product coming in
- 8:10Speaker 1: or that's some of that toilet bowl stuff.
- 8:14Speaker 2: No, you're not getting I mean you get a little
- 8:16Speaker 2: bit of hoots and stuff through the toilebol alcohol. But
- 8:19Speaker 2: now what they're doing in prison is a basically rate
- 8:22Speaker 2: bug spray and they call it tune and it gives
- 8:26Speaker 2: them a heroin like effect and ultimately will lead to
- 8:33Speaker 2: if overdosing on it. It will lead to seizures and
- 8:37Speaker 2: then obviously all the problems that come with that.
- 8:42Speaker 1: John, I don't know, Lord, I wish I knew what
- 8:45Speaker 1: direction immediately to go. I don't know if this is UH.
- 8:48Speaker 2: The general public just needs to be calling ODRC and
- 8:52Speaker 2: the news sources need to be reporting on all this
- 8:56Speaker 2: stuff that is public information. They the drugs in there,
- 9:01Speaker 2: the overdoses, the death, the murders. Andy Lansing's death is
- 9:06Speaker 2: a build up of a problem that is flooding ODRC.
- 9:11Speaker 1: Do you was there a history? I mean, did he
- 9:13Speaker 1: catch this guy with drugs or did he did he
- 9:17Speaker 1: did some punishment get inflicted on this guy because of
- 9:20Speaker 1: something he had had in there illegally that Lansing had
- 9:23Speaker 1: something to do with. Or was it just just look
- 9:25Speaker 1: at the drawey he had to take it out on somebody.
- 9:28Speaker 2: I think Lansing was in the right place at the
- 9:31Speaker 2: wrong time. I think whoever was sitting in that spot
- 9:34Speaker 2: where he was at and where he was assaulted, I
- 9:37Speaker 2: think they would have been dead regardless of who it was.
- 9:40Speaker 2: And Lansing was not a dirty officer, was not a
- 9:43Speaker 2: person that held drudges. He was firm fair and consistent,
- 9:48Speaker 2: and everybody loved him inmates or even shocked that he's dead.
- 9:53Speaker 1: If anything happens that needs to be known, you know
- 9:56Speaker 1: how to get a hold of me. You you get
- 9:58Speaker 1: it to me. I'll make sure I get in front
- 10:00Speaker 1: of as many people as I can in this business,
- 10:03Speaker 1: because if if what you're saying is the reality, I'm
- 10:09Speaker 1: even sicker over this than I thought I was, quite frankly.
- 10:13Speaker 2: So it's heartbreaking and sickening, and people need to contact
- 10:18Speaker 2: the High Department of Rehabilitations of Corrections, figure out the stats,
- 10:22Speaker 2: figure out where nearly a billion dollars a year is
- 10:26Speaker 2: going towards, because I think Daniel budget's right around nine
- 10:30Speaker 2: hundred million right now. Waste the money for what they're
- 10:33Speaker 2: doing and go on. It's a shame as death should
- 10:39Speaker 2: never happen. That man would work eighty hours a week
- 10:42Speaker 2: to keep his son paid through for college. He did
- 10:46Speaker 2: all the overtime. He was always at the prison, and
- 10:49Speaker 2: when he died he was working an overtime shift.
- 10:54Speaker 1: John. I mean what I say. Something happens, something comes up,
- 10:57Speaker 1: some story that needs to get out there. You get
- 10:59Speaker 1: a hold of me, reach out to me. I'll make
- 11:00Speaker 1: sure it gets where it needs to go.
- 11:03Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'll keep that month and you'll probably hear from
- 11:05Speaker 2: me here in the future.
- 11:07Speaker 1: Week you'd be safe, take care of yourself, and my
- 11:10Speaker 1: condolences to all your coworkers as well.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
- 11:15Speaker 1: That's that is a hmm. It is extremely rare that
- 11:21Speaker 1: I'm speechless, but hearing hearing what he had to say,
- 11:26Speaker 1: and that what what he had to say, not only
- 11:28Speaker 1: what he had to say, but the matter of fact nature.
- 11:32Speaker 1: I mean, this is like obviously an everyday scenario of
- 11:36Speaker 1: the this is a problem that's constantly there because he
- 11:39Speaker 1: wasn't even he wasn't even exacerbated by by you know,
- 11:43Speaker 1: saying the drugs are coming in and these people are
- 11:46Speaker 1: getting this. And here's why I say it is so
- 11:49Speaker 1: matter of fact with him that obviously this is a
- 11:52Speaker 1: long established negative pattern and if if anybody's getting paid
- 11:58Speaker 1: off somewhere to look the the way, so contractors or
- 12:02Speaker 1: service providers or whatever can bring this crap into the
- 12:06Speaker 1: prisons and make it available, that's something The prisoners are
- 12:10Speaker 1: obviously paying for it. It's not being given to him free.
- 12:14Speaker 1: So you got a whole underground economy and they're yeah,
- 12:16Speaker 1: this if this is the case. This needs uh, this
- 12:20Speaker 1: needs some serious eyes and Zach, if you would, I'll
- 12:24Speaker 1: tell you what. I want to grab this portion of
- 12:26Speaker 1: the show because everybody at the legislature that has shaking
- 12:30Speaker 1: my hands or said hello to me needs to get
- 12:32Speaker 1: a copy of the MP three of.
- 12:33Speaker 3: This got it.
- 12:35Speaker 1: I'm wow. What started as a note of condolence to
- 12:41Speaker 1: this this man's family and his coworkers. That's insufficient.
- 12:49Speaker 3: I don't I don't want to put words in it.
- 12:50Speaker 3: He seemed to call here and say what he said
- 12:53Speaker 3: the way he said it. It's obviously these things are
- 12:58Speaker 3: new to him and he's seen it over it over,
- 13:01Speaker 3: and maybe that was the last time before he felt
- 13:04Speaker 3: that he could keep his mouth shut about something. Not
- 13:07Speaker 3: that he would have, but you know what I mean.
- 13:08Speaker 3: It's it's some things push you over the edge where
- 13:11Speaker 3: you try to make a change.
- 13:12Speaker 1: Well, when you see somebody, somebody lose their life, Yeah,
- 13:16Speaker 1: because of the dirt that is being done, especially when
- 13:20Speaker 1: it's someone as he spoke so favorably about mister Lansing,
- 13:23Speaker 1: someone that's looked upon well by even the prisoners. Yeah,
- 13:27Speaker 1: maybe that's the motivator that these people need to come
- 13:30Speaker 1: out of the shadows and say, Okay, you need to
- 13:32Speaker 1: know what's going on, and we do need to go
- 13:36Speaker 1: Not only do we need to know what's going on people,
- 13:38Speaker 1: but listen closely, get off your ass, and do something
- 13:41Speaker 1: about it. If that means making phone calls, writing letters,
- 13:46Speaker 1: going to the legislative sessions, holding signs, I don't care.
- 13:50Speaker 1: As long as it is within the law, in your
- 13:53Speaker 1: constitutional rights. We need to actually do something about it.
- 14:00Speaker 1: And as I said, John, sincerity and matter of fact
- 14:03Speaker 1: presentation there just tells me this is this is such
- 14:08Speaker 1: such the norm that uh, he's he's not He's not
- 14:15Speaker 1: even really phased, And that's sad. It should not be
- 14:19Speaker 1: the norm. Prison. It should not be a place for abuse,
- 14:22Speaker 1: but it should be a place of correction, changing people
- 14:26Speaker 1: with the hope that maybe we can bring them back
- 14:28Speaker 1: into society. But putting them in some place where they
- 14:30Speaker 1: can just learn to be better addicts and better criminals, well,
- 14:34Speaker 1: that doesn't do anybody any good, does it.