Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / Jeff Nelson | Former New York Yankees Relief Pitcher Previews Yankees vs. Red Sox ALWC Series
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Joining us this morning as we get set for game
- 0:02Speaker 1: one of the Yankees and Red Sox in the Bronx.
- 0:05Speaker 1: Later on tonight, Yankee hero Jeff Nelson. Jeff, good morning, buddy.
- 0:09Speaker 1: How are you?
- 0:10Speaker 2: Good morning, Sid. I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.
- 0:12Speaker 1: It's great to have you. Did you actually make it
- 0:16Speaker 1: through the whole Doobie Brothers concert? I'm not going to
- 0:18Speaker 1: lie to you. The rain delay forced us out early.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Did you sit through the whole thing?
- 0:23Speaker 2: I did.
- 0:23Speaker 3: Well, the Doobie Brothers, yes, but Santana only made it
- 0:26Speaker 3: like halfway, and then we left halfway.
- 0:29Speaker 1: That was crazy, right?
- 0:31Speaker 2: Oh, I know. Was it an hour delay or whatever? Yeah.
- 0:34Speaker 2: It was long.
- 0:35Speaker 1: It was long. I mean, now I know what you
- 0:36Speaker 1: guys must have done.
- 0:37Speaker 2: You guys had to cut their set a little bit.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Right.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Because of Santana.
- 0:40Speaker 1: I know. So now I know what you guys must
- 0:42Speaker 1: have gone through during rain delays during baseball games. I mean,
- 0:45Speaker 1: how do you come back out with the same enthusiasm?
- 0:48Speaker 2: You don't. You're absolutely right. You don't. You're like, oh
- 0:51Speaker 2: my gosh, this is dragging. Cancel the game. Let's come
- 0:53Speaker 2: back tomorrow.
- 0:56Speaker 1: I know. I kept thinking about you with the rain
- 0:58Speaker 1: delay with Yankee Stadium when the Doobie Brothers were behind stage.
- 1:01Speaker 1: It was lightning up there in upstate New York. So
- 1:04Speaker 1: here we go again, Jeff. I mean, look, obviously you
- 1:07Speaker 1: won all those World Series with the Yankees. But back then,
- 1:10Speaker 1: it wasn't like Yankees-Red Sox. That did happen, obviously, in 2003.
- 1:13Speaker 1: You were gone by that. Oh, you were actually back
- 1:15Speaker 1: that year. But Yankees-Red Sox has always been huge, more
- 1:19Speaker 1: like the 70s teams, obviously, Bucky Dent and Zimmer and
- 1:23Speaker 1: those guys. But for you as a former Yankee star,
- 1:27Speaker 1: any time you played Boston, it was a big deal, yes?
- 1:30Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, because, Mr. Steinbrenner, there was like three teams
- 1:33Speaker 3: you had to beat. It was the Mets, the Red Sox,
- 1:35Speaker 3: and the Rays. And if you didn't, then you didn't
- 1:38Speaker 3: want to show your face around Yankee Stadium.
- 1:40Speaker 2: That's the three teams that he took.
- 1:43Speaker 3: The most serious, but you know, the media and the
- 1:45Speaker 3: fans really build up the rivalry more than the players.
- 1:48Speaker 3: And when we wanted to beat everyone, but it was,
- 1:51Speaker 3: it was pretty special one. I think more, more so
- 1:54Speaker 3: than the Mets Yankees, but the Red Sox Yankees was
- 1:57Speaker 3: always a huge rivalry.
- 1:58Speaker 2: Funny.
- 1:59Speaker 1: You say Red Sox. We know why that's the case.
- 2:01Speaker 1: Mets inside the same city. People are going, why the Rays?
- 2:05Speaker 1: And for people that don't know, that's because joints or
- 2:08Speaker 1: George Steinbrenner lived in Tampa, right?
- 2:10Speaker 2: Right. Right.
- 2:11Speaker 1: He didn't want to deal with that nonsense, leaving his
- 2:13Speaker 1: house and having the Rays beat his team. He didn't
- 2:15Speaker 1: want to deal with that. You know, one time I
- 2:16Speaker 1: said to Bernie Williams, I said, Bernie, you won four
- 2:19Speaker 1: World Series, so did you, Jeff. And you beat Atlanta twice,
- 2:22Speaker 1: you beat the Padres, you beat the Mets. And I said,
- 2:26Speaker 1: in 2001, right after 9-11, you weren't here then, but
- 2:30Speaker 1: when you lost to the Diamondbacks. Would you give back
- 2:34Speaker 1: one of those World Series wins just to have beaten
- 2:37Speaker 1: Arizona after that tragic day in New York? And without hesitation,
- 2:41Speaker 1: Jeppe goes, yeah, any one of them except the Mets.
- 2:46Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, you know, it's always, I came back in
- 2:49Speaker 3: 03 and we lost to the Marlins and you seem
- 2:51Speaker 3: to remember the ones you lose more than the ones
- 2:53Speaker 3: you win. I mean, it's amazing. And we lost, I
- 2:56Speaker 3: was with Seattle then, we lost to New York. you know,
- 2:59Speaker 3: one for them to go to Arizona and to play
- 3:01Speaker 3: the diamondbacks. And I didn't like that very much.
- 3:05Speaker 1: What was it like though, when you go from Seattle
- 3:08Speaker 1: to the Yankees with Tino in 96 and you win
- 3:11Speaker 1: a world series, that amazing world series win over Atlanta
- 3:14Speaker 1: right away that year, what was that like?
- 3:16Speaker 3: Well, you know, you're coming to a historical, historical team
- 3:21Speaker 3: in New York. I mean, I grew up in Baltimore,
- 3:23Speaker 3: so I was an Oriole fan. It's never really a
- 3:25Speaker 3: Yankee fan until I became a Yankee. And I, And
- 3:28Speaker 3: it was amazing. I felt we were going to come
- 3:30Speaker 3: back and try to run it again in Seattle and
- 3:32Speaker 3: see if we could go a little further. And Tino
- 3:34Speaker 3: and I both get traded to New York. I mean,
- 3:35Speaker 3: you could get traded to a last place team, but
- 3:38Speaker 3: you get traded to the Pinstripes. And that was something
- 3:41Speaker 3: else going to spring training. Then it was Legends Field.
- 3:44Speaker 3: Now it's Steinbrenner Field. You know, just seeing the guys
- 3:48Speaker 3: and the history that New York brings. I was always
- 3:51Speaker 3: a big historian as far as knowing the past players.
- 3:54Speaker 2: I mean, I absolutely loved them.
- 3:56Speaker 1: What was it like playing for Joe Torre, too? I
- 3:58Speaker 1: think you must have loved Joe Torre, yes?
- 4:00Speaker 2: Yes.
- 4:01Speaker 3: Yeah, the most calming manager and, you know, perfect for
- 4:05Speaker 3: New York.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Never had a doghouse.
- 4:06Speaker 3: I thought that he made it very easy because New
- 4:09Speaker 3: York back then was a very tough place to play
- 4:11Speaker 3: as far as the fans and also the media. I mean,
- 4:14Speaker 3: our media coverage was a lot more than it is now.
- 4:18Speaker 3: And he made it easier for us to go out
- 4:20Speaker 3: on the field and do our jobs. And I had
- 4:24Speaker 3: Lou in Seattle, which is a perfect person in Seattle
- 4:27Speaker 3: because it was a laid-back atmosphere, and he brought his
- 4:29Speaker 3: fiery self. And Joe Torre was perfect for New York,
- 4:33Speaker 3: and he was the greatest. That's why he's a Hall
- 4:35Speaker 3: of Famer.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Nelson saying, though he's talking about the former Yankee, ironically,
- 4:39Speaker 1: Lou Piniella. And Steinbrenner, you know, every Yankee player I
- 4:43Speaker 1: talked to had a run-in with George at some point.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Didn't matter. They still loved him. And they really believed
- 4:49Speaker 1: that if he was still alive today, that the Yankees
- 4:52Speaker 1: wouldn't have gone 17 years now without winning a world championship.
- 4:55Speaker 1: Tell me about your relationship with George Steinbrenner.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great.
- 4:59Speaker 3: You know, but he was the guy that tested you
- 5:01Speaker 3: in New York. I mean, New York was always a
- 5:03Speaker 3: tough place to play. I mean, that.
- 5:05Speaker 2: you know, if you can make it here, you can
- 5:07Speaker 2: make it anywhere.
- 5:07Speaker 3: It wasn't, that's the truth. I mean, it's, uh, same
- 5:10Speaker 3: with playing at Yankee stadium. He tested you. And if
- 5:13Speaker 3: you didn't stand up for yourself and give it back
- 5:16Speaker 3: to him a little bit, I mean, you never wanted
- 5:17Speaker 3: to get into a shouting match with him because you
- 5:19Speaker 3: respected him too much, but you also stood up for
- 5:22Speaker 3: yourself and stood your ground and he respected that. And
- 5:25Speaker 3: he knew that, okay, this guy would probably make it here.
- 5:28Speaker 1: You know, the teams seem to have this little rivalry.
- 5:31Speaker 1: Some of the guys I speak to. So, for example, Jeff,
- 5:34Speaker 1: your 98 team won every game. I think you're like 162,
- 5:36Speaker 1: I know. One of the greatest teams to ever play,
- 5:39Speaker 1: the 98 Yankees. And if you want to take on
- 5:41Speaker 1: those 77 teams like Reggie Jackson or dating back to
- 5:46Speaker 1: even the Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle days, Yogi Berra, do
- 5:49Speaker 1: you ever think how your Yankee great team, who won
- 5:52Speaker 1: World Series four times, would have fared against those other
- 5:55Speaker 1: great Yankee teams?
- 5:58Speaker 3: We kind of hoped that we would beat them, but
- 5:59Speaker 3: it would be fun to play against them.
- 6:02Speaker 2: That would be for sure.
- 6:05Speaker 3: You look back and I think 98 was maybe one
- 6:07Speaker 3: of the greatest, if not the greatest team ever. I
- 6:11Speaker 3: think maybe if you go back and ask DiMaggio and
- 6:13Speaker 3: all those, what was it, 61 Yankees, whoever it was,
- 6:16Speaker 3: they said, oh, that was the greatest team ever.
- 6:17Speaker 2: But It was fun back then.
- 6:21Speaker 3: Old-timers day, when those guys would come in, it was
- 6:23Speaker 3: amazing to see those guys around and dress in our
- 6:27Speaker 3: locker room and just to know what they went through
- 6:29Speaker 3: and the great players that they were.
- 6:33Speaker 2: It was amazing, but it would have been fun to
- 6:36Speaker 2: do that.
- 6:36Speaker 1: It would have been a lot of fun. What kind
- 6:38Speaker 1: of teammate was Derek Jeter?
- 6:40Speaker 2: Amazing.
- 6:41Speaker 3: The smartest player I've ever played with and down to
- 6:44Speaker 3: earth and wanted to win. And everybody followed his lead,
- 6:48Speaker 3: even from his rookie year in 96. I mean, he
- 6:50Speaker 3: played like a veteran. He respected the game. He has
- 6:53Speaker 3: a great mom and dad that he grew up right.
- 6:56Speaker 3: And for a guy that was single in New York,
- 6:59Speaker 3: he was a superstar and he made it. And, you know,
- 7:02Speaker 3: one of the greatest teammates I've had.
- 7:04Speaker 1: But you come back, this is a great Jeff Nelson,
- 7:07Speaker 1: and he went back and forth between Seattle and the Yankees.
- 7:09Speaker 1: He's got to go back and forth to the bathroom
- 7:11Speaker 1: in the studio every single day. So you came back
- 7:14Speaker 1: in 03, and ironically, you talked about losing to the
- 7:16Speaker 1: Marlins in the World Series that year. But that was
- 7:19Speaker 1: the year where Aaron Boone hit that big home run
- 7:23Speaker 1: off Tim Wakefield, and you guys got to the World Series,
- 7:27Speaker 1: and now Aaron Boone is... is the skipper for the Yankees,
- 7:31Speaker 1: and Jeffy gets killed here, okay? Every call to the fan,
- 7:34Speaker 1: got to get rid of Boone. Meantime, Yankees won 93
- 7:37Speaker 1: this year. They win between 90 and 100 every year.
- 7:41Speaker 1: They're in the playoffs every year, but Yankee fans won championships,
- 7:45Speaker 1: and they've got to go all the way back to
- 7:48Speaker 1: A-Rod in 2009 for that last championship. So do you
- 7:52Speaker 1: think Aaron Boone gets too much heat, or do the
- 7:55Speaker 1: Yankees got to win one?
- 7:58Speaker 3: I mean, I think the Yankees definitely have to win one.
- 8:00Speaker 3: I mean, they haven't been there since 09 and you know,
- 8:02Speaker 3: this is New York, you know, this is the Yankees.
- 8:04Speaker 3: They're used to what, 27 championships. So, you know, they're
- 8:07Speaker 3: used to winning. It just hasn't happened in a while.
- 8:10Speaker 3: I mean, this, this is a team that goes to
- 8:12Speaker 3: the playoffs every year. You know, that, that's a great
- 8:15Speaker 3: feat in itself. You know, what Brian Cashman has done
- 8:18Speaker 3: and what Aaron Boone has done as a manager, Aaron
- 8:21Speaker 3: Boone's a great communicator and, He does a really nice job,
- 8:24Speaker 3: you know, keeping everybody together. And nowadays I think it's
- 8:27Speaker 3: even more important to communicate with the players because I
- 8:30Speaker 3: think players are a lot more sensitive than they used
- 8:32Speaker 3: to be a lot more personalities.
- 8:34Speaker 2: Than they, than it used to be.
- 8:36Speaker 3: So you need that, you need that buffer and he,
- 8:39Speaker 3: and he does a great.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Job with it.
- 8:41Speaker 3: And, you know, you have a lot of tough teams
- 8:45Speaker 3: out there and, you know, it's, it's, the injuries around
- 8:51Speaker 3: the league are huge. And when you lose big players
- 8:54Speaker 3: like Aaron Judge, Stanton, Bellinger, that's.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Going to cost you.
- 9:00Speaker 3: And then some guys just don't show up in the playoffs.
- 9:02Speaker 3: I mean, you had Aaron Judge that had a decent
- 9:04Speaker 3: playoff run a couple years ago.
- 9:07Speaker 2: But other than that, he really hasn't had a great
- 9:11Speaker 2: playoff run.
- 9:12Speaker 3: So that takes some consideration as well.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Yeah, when you talk about being one of the all-time greats.
- 9:19Speaker 1: So what's the difference, Jeff? You know, a guy shows
- 9:21Speaker 1: up for 162 games, and he's an amazing player. Is
- 9:25Speaker 1: it as easy as there's just more pressure, more eyeballs?
- 9:29Speaker 1: Why are guys completely different in October than they were
- 9:34Speaker 1: in September?
- 9:35Speaker 2: Yeah, all of the above. And also, you know.
- 9:40Speaker 2: You try, I think players try to be someone there.
- 9:42Speaker 3: They're not, you know, it's just a, it's just a
- 9:45Speaker 3: regular game, even though there is more eyeballs.
- 9:47Speaker 2: And you're one of what now 12.
- 9:50Speaker 3: Teams guys try to do too much. And that's what
- 9:55Speaker 3: made Derek Jeter so good. And a lot of players
- 9:58Speaker 3: back then so good because you took it as a
- 10:00Speaker 3: regular game. You can't be any better than what you
- 10:03Speaker 3: were during the regular season. And I think some of
- 10:05Speaker 3: these guys and A-Rod was one of them. A-Rod had
- 10:07Speaker 3: a decent, decent run in 09, but other than that,
- 10:10Speaker 3: he really never did anything in the playoffs. And those
- 10:13Speaker 3: guys try to put too much pressure on themselves and
- 10:15Speaker 3: they try to be better than they were during the
- 10:16Speaker 3: regular season.
- 10:17Speaker 2: And that's just not going to happen.
- 10:18Speaker 1: Well, you talked about the injuries with this baseball team,
- 10:21Speaker 1: and these guys aren't even back yet. Like, Judge, we
- 10:23Speaker 1: think may be available. Stanton, we think may be available.
- 10:26Speaker 1: We don't even know. So, I know you're a Yankee. Jeff,
- 10:30Speaker 1: I get it. You played for Seattle. You played for
- 10:32Speaker 1: the White Sox. You played for the Rangers. But you're
- 10:35Speaker 1: a Yankee. I know you want the Yankees to win,
- 10:38Speaker 1: but do you think this Yankee team will get it done?
- 10:43Speaker 3: I think their pitching is far better than a lot
- 10:46Speaker 3: of teams. Who knows if Aaron Judge is going to
- 10:49Speaker 3: be able to come back? And even what is he
- 10:51Speaker 3: going to be able to provide? Is he going to
- 10:53Speaker 3: be healthy enough to be an impact player in that lineup?
- 10:57Speaker 3: Is he going to be able to play the outfield?
- 10:58Speaker 3: There's a lot of question marks with that. I think
- 11:01Speaker 3: the pitching, the starting pitching is probably better than any,
- 11:04Speaker 3: but anyone other, the other teams in the American league,
- 11:08Speaker 3: they have a tougher run. I mean, they have to
- 11:10Speaker 3: go through the Red Sox and then they play the
- 11:11Speaker 3: Rays if they can get through the Red Sox. So
- 11:13Speaker 3: that's a tough run for them. But if they can
- 11:15Speaker 3: get through that, then I think they go to the
- 11:17Speaker 3: world series because I don't think, you know, you look
- 11:19Speaker 3: at Houston, the guardians and the White Sox. I don't
- 11:22Speaker 3: think any of those teams match up with any of
- 11:24Speaker 3: the Red Sox, Rays or Yankees, but I like the
- 11:27Speaker 3: Yankees because of their pitching. Their starting pitching is really good.
- 11:30Speaker 3: It's deeper than any one of the other teams, and
- 11:33Speaker 3: I think their bullpen's good.
- 11:34Speaker 1: You know, going back to the bullpen, those Torrey teams
- 11:38Speaker 1: that won the World Series, we can talk all day
- 11:40Speaker 1: about Jeter deservedly so, and Tino, and Bernie Williams, and
- 11:44Speaker 1: all the offensive stars that showed up for the Yanks,
- 11:47Speaker 1: and there were lots of them. But I got to
- 11:49Speaker 1: tell you, that bullpen, right? So 96, you get there.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Wetlands a closer. Mariano's a setup guy. But after that,
- 11:56Speaker 1: whether it was you or Mike Stanton, knowing that Mariano
- 12:00Speaker 1: Rivera was at the back of that bullpen, did you
- 12:03Speaker 1: ever have any doubt that if you were winning in
- 12:06Speaker 1: the sixth inning, you would win every game?
- 12:09Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, no, and that's what we did. We
- 12:12Speaker 3: shortened games. I mean, we had really good starting pitching.
- 12:14Speaker 3: So if our starters would give you six or seven
- 12:17Speaker 3: innings and we only had to worry about maybe nine
- 12:20Speaker 3: outs at the most, sometimes maybe six outs, maybe four
- 12:23Speaker 3: outs down in the bullpen because our starters are so good.
- 12:26Speaker 3: And that's what, you know, and even opposing teams knew it.
- 12:30Speaker 3: If they didn't get to our starters, they weren't winning
- 12:32Speaker 3: the game because our bullpen was so good.
- 12:34Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys.
- 12:34Speaker 3: But nowadays it's different. You know, the leases are shorter
- 12:38Speaker 3: for starters. The 100 pitch count is a huge deal
- 12:41Speaker 3: for teams. So you better have a deep bullpen because
- 12:44Speaker 3: you're getting 12 to 15 outs a night, especially in
- 12:48Speaker 3: the playoffs from your bullpen. If you can't get that,
- 12:51Speaker 3: then that's when you wind up losing.
- 12:53Speaker 1: Bottom line, Jeff Nelson, an amazing Yankee between 96 and
- 12:57Speaker 1: 2000 was back here in 03 and went back and
- 12:59Speaker 1: forth to Seattle during all those years, but is a
- 13:03Speaker 1: beloved here in New York. I love you as a
- 13:05Speaker 1: great New York Yankee and a great guy. So thank
- 13:08Speaker 1: you for hopping on this morning. I know you're traveling
- 13:10Speaker 1: today and. Let's go, Yanks, Jeff. Let's go, Yanks.
- 13:12Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go, Yanks. Love your show, too. Love you.
- 13:14Speaker 1: Oh, man, thank you. I love you, too, bro. Thank
- 13:16Speaker 1: you so much. It means a lot to me. Thank you.
- 13:18Speaker 1: There he is, the former great New York Yankee, Jeff Nelson, Nelly,
- 13:22Speaker 1: and much like Donald Trump does, he closed it out
- 13:24Speaker 1: with an I love you. How about that? Jeff Nelson.
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