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She Came to Tutor Kids... Drunk · Luke's English Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Bad Hire, the show with the best
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  Speaker 1: stories about the worst employees.
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  Speaker 2: We fired him.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, people are crazy.
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  Speaker 3: It's like an hr nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: Right, one Bad Hire stole all of.
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  Speaker 4: It crazy stuff.
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  Speaker 3: She got what she deserved.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm your host, Ken Monroe, and every week we
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  Speaker 1: dive into real life stories from the wild world of
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  Speaker 1: work and what can happen when the wrong person gets
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  Speaker 1: the job. These stories aren't just crazy when they're cautionary
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  Speaker 1: tales about lessons learned the hard way. Let's get started. Hi, everyone,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Bad Hire.
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  Speaker 5: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Hi.
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  Speaker 1: You know this is the show. This is the show
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  Speaker 1: where the best stories happen about the worst employees, or
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  Speaker 1: maybe the employees having the worst day ever. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm back with Nathan and Emma. How are you guys doing.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome. I'm good.
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  Speaker 5: I was just saying I'm fine, good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm fine. It's been a long day, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we have a record love content.
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  Speaker 1: She's repping state today. Go back.
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  Speaker 5: Your brother's there, right, yep, yep, cool?
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  Speaker 2: Right now.
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  Speaker 1: My my my daughter was there. My sister would have
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  Speaker 1: freaked out of she she's a.
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  Speaker 2: I went there. My brother's there, really.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was no, did you have a choice? Honestly, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: did you want to go any place else? Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Well yes, but at the time, not for like what
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to do at the time, because I wanted.
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  Speaker 5: To be a vet and so I wanted.
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  Speaker 1: That was like, you went to State initially to be
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  Speaker 1: a vet. Yes, she's still afraid to say that in
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  Speaker 1: front of me. She's afraid of the rabbit hole.
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  Speaker 5: Little go do Well, That's how I was with Virginia Attack.
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  Speaker 5: We don't talk about animal.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I went to Virginia Tech, just like I grew
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  Speaker 4: up watching Animal Planet and I was like, how hard
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  Speaker 4: can that be?
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  Speaker 5: And then like I went to study it and I
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  Speaker 5: was like, oh, that's pretty hard.
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  Speaker 1: I would tell you communications instead.
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  Speaker 5: I'll just play frisbee and do a bunch of marketing.
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  Speaker 2: I would tell you why I wanted to be a vet,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm not going to get into all that because
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  Speaker 2: then can I'll start making fun of me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't make fun of you, And then I just.
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  Speaker 2: Don't want to get into it. I wanted to be
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  Speaker 2: a vet up until my junior year.
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  Speaker 1: Of high school, and then you know, I love your
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  Speaker 1: back room.
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  Speaker 2: I worked in an animal hospital and you've come a
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  Speaker 2: long way that it was really eye opening, and that
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  Speaker 2: made me realize that I just didn't I didn't want.
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  Speaker 1: To do that. That's good, that's good. You know you
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  Speaker 1: should when you're young, as you get in there, when
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  Speaker 1: you know you have a dream, you should get.
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  Speaker 2: In the experience. I think that was like right before
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  Speaker 2: I started touring colleges too. So even even then at
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  Speaker 2: the time when I toured State, I didn't like it
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  Speaker 2: as much as the other campuses that I had toured,
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  Speaker 2: But I ended up really really liking it because it
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  Speaker 2: was I think it was because it was so big
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  Speaker 2: that I was like kind of overwhelmed because I'm not
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  Speaker 2: used to that kind of area and everything like that.
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  Speaker 4: But we're talking about NC state by the way, Yes, states.
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  Speaker 1: Every see every state, and everybody was list in every
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  Speaker 1: state they were talking about is like state, everybody's got
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  Speaker 1: a state. Oh yeah state.
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  Speaker 4: I went to Virginia Tech, and in Virginia everybody knows that.
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  Speaker 4: But then I moved to California and nobody even like
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  Speaker 4: heard of Virginia Tech.
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  Speaker 5: Right, you know what I mean? I know that the
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  Speaker 5: state out there.
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  Speaker 1: It means something different than every every every state.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I graduated oh my goodness, almost two years ago.
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  Speaker 5: So growing up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm old and whatever.
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  Speaker 1: It's her first job, right and she's crushing it. Right
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  Speaker 1: handles our social media handles, some of some of the
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  Speaker 1: things she's doing doing a lot of the podcast work.
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  Speaker 5: A bunch of design stuff.
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  Speaker 1: That was a good hire. Oh yeah, I think we
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  Speaker 1: should throw every once in a while, throwing it like
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  Speaker 1: a good higher, just like this is a bad high,
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  Speaker 1: but like every once in a while, just to like
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  Speaker 1: a cross out writing good, we'll tell you.
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  Speaker 2: But sometimes you get people like Emma, and then yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She's a bad hire gone good.
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  Speaker 5: She really turned her life around from her.
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  Speaker 1: And there's the redemption story. We'll tell you about her story.
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  Speaker 2: She came here, I wasn't even in I wasn't even
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  Speaker 2: in marketing when I came here either.
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  Speaker 1: You weren't they brought in in the I mean, she
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  Speaker 1: was brought in in the tech department.
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  Speaker 4: But you're not the only one. Like a lot of
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  Speaker 4: moved around, you know, for people.
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  Speaker 2: We don't forget that because even in college I changed
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  Speaker 2: my major like five times.
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  Speaker 5: No mean too.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that I'm not even in my major right
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  Speaker 2: now doesn't surprise me.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's a common marketing thing where well do
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  Speaker 4: you love what? Do you like what you're doing?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I like marketing? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Do you love it? Or you just like it?
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  Speaker 2: I just like it.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot of work. Oh my god, I just
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  Speaker 1: like it talking to the here's the only company? Do
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  Speaker 1: you love your job?
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  Speaker 5: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Would you rather?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 4: I don't ever want that'd be bad behavior. And you
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  Speaker 4: know you're good hiring.
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  Speaker 2: It's just not what I expected. It's like every day.
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  Speaker 2: Every day is like a learning experience, which is good.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, well you're you're you're crafty and
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  Speaker 1: thoughtful and a great writer and also gifted and designed
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  Speaker 1: just kind of by accident, not by accident, but well yeah, because.
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  Speaker 2: I grew up doing design stuff and I did want
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  Speaker 2: to do that for a little bit too. I just
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  Speaker 2: didn't go.
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  Speaker 1: Just I'm hopeful that you will find your path here
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  Speaker 1: in a way that makes you very happy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing Yeah, I'm doing it in different ways.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So if you found our podcast through social media, it's
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  Speaker 4: because it's putting out there and yeah, we're getting seen
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  Speaker 4: on TikTok and YouTube and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: And so you see somebody being snappy or funny and
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  Speaker 2: the replies it's me.
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  Speaker 4: If you're if you're saying in the comments, and we
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  Speaker 4: we snap back at you.
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  Speaker 5: That's that's all. I'm a yes, who do you think
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  Speaker 5: you're talking to?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, all right, we don't forget we were
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  Speaker 1: running that ten thousand dollars contest. We always should have
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  Speaker 1: mentioned that before we get started.
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  Speaker 5: We've a couple of submissions today that we're reading.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, super cool, We're going to see a couple So
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  Speaker 1: we got some submissions we're going to read, and I
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  Speaker 1: think we've got a one of the video segments. So
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  Speaker 1: if you want to get on the show, you want
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  Speaker 1: your a story told, you have some story that you'd
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  Speaker 1: like to tell, there's a couple of ways to do it.
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  Speaker 1: You can submit it online. You can go to the
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  Speaker 1: badhire dot com and do it. You can producers an
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  Speaker 1: email over to producers at the badhire dot com. But
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  Speaker 1: you know what you'll find is probably you'll get right
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  Speaker 1: into a process where one of our booking guy will
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  Speaker 1: give you a call. He'll reach out to you, try
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  Speaker 1: to try to get a few minutes with you, talk
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  Speaker 1: to you on the phone, and then book a slot
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  Speaker 1: for you to have like an individual private segment where
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  Speaker 1: you know, one of the producers of the show, Nathan
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  Speaker 1: Emma Morgan, will then you know, potentially interview you and
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  Speaker 1: do the segment live you know, recorded rather and then
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  Speaker 1: we'll roll in the clips during the show and watch.
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  Speaker 1: And so we've been building those up and kind of
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  Speaker 1: putting those in the bank, and we're starting to you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think this this show, we're gonna do one for
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  Speaker 1: the first time, So I'm excited about that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No, I've recorded a handful of them so far, and
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  Speaker 4: I know, you know, they might be distributed around the team.
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  Speaker 1: You've been some interesting people, bro, It's been really fun.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, just like first just the salt of the
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  Speaker 1: Earth kind of recruiters that are just getting the job
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  Speaker 1: done every day. And then you had that the one
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  Speaker 1: dude who's like a former band manager.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, like super cool.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I think I think we're gonna be putting
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  Speaker 4: out if we haven't already, by this one comes out
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  Speaker 4: like the full our full conversation with him, super interesting,
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  Speaker 4: super nice, has lots of stories, but also has lots
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  Speaker 4: of cool experiences. And so it's been fun because I
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  Speaker 4: think our general premise of the show has rained true
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  Speaker 4: with people. We're like, hey, we just noticed if you're
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  Speaker 4: in recruiting, you got a story. And everybody I tell
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  Speaker 4: that too, they're all like, oh yeah, I've got.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah most most of the time. Yeah, So it's been fun.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and you know, I hope there gets to be.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a bit therapeutic for people, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean to be able to just tell because the
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  Speaker 1: overwhelming majority of like hoop recruiters, HR folks, owners, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: higher probably the overwhelm majority is good hires. Right, You
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  Speaker 1: just these bad hires happen, and you know, you can
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  Speaker 1: make light of them a little bit, and because all
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  Speaker 1: the things we do, all the process you put in place,
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  Speaker 1: are all to try to avoid those things, right, And
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  Speaker 1: then so you know, God bless the HR folks recruiters
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  Speaker 1: who you know, their DNA's all over this and they
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  Speaker 1: but they all got a story seys for I hope
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  Speaker 1: they'll tell them and we'll we'll pick the best one
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  Speaker 1: this year and give them ten thousand dollars because we
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  Speaker 1: think they're that we think they're they're that good, one
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  Speaker 1: of those huge absolutely yeah. Fun.
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  Speaker 4: It might cost eight thousand dollars to print that, right,
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  Speaker 4: but it will be worth it depending.
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  Speaker 1: On where they're from. They fly them here, yeah, or
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  Speaker 1: we'll go there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be fun, you know. So hopefully they're in Hawaiian.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I'll kick us. I'll kick us off today. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So this, this story is uh, this this it was
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  Speaker 1: a submitted.
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  Speaker 5: Let me see yours. I don't think yours was. That's
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  Speaker 5: what this is one that we found.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So the cranky candidate that there's one thing
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  Speaker 1: that truly is scary, and that's an unheedged candidate bent
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  Speaker 1: on revenge. Once upon a time, I forgot to send
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  Speaker 1: a Canada calendar invite for an interview. It was a
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  Speaker 1: simple mistake. I totally get that, one that anyone could
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  Speaker 1: have made. Before I had the chance to reach out
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  Speaker 1: and apologize, she took it upon herself to call me
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  Speaker 1: and berate me for this, for my error. That's quick, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get a job with you. Let me
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  Speaker 1: berate you. Not only did she think it was clearly
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  Speaker 1: an an intentional mistake on my part. Okay, so she
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  Speaker 1: thought she was being slighted, but she felt the need
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  Speaker 1: to threaten to reach out to my supervisor and the
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  Speaker 1: CEO to get me fired. The angry candidate then did
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  Speaker 1: a research. She found the email to all the companies
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  Speaker 1: upper management, including the CEO, founder, some practice managers. She
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  Speaker 1: sent a scathing review demanding I be fired immediately. Not
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  Speaker 1: only that, shocked she chose, she chose to use some
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  Speaker 1: non PC names in terms to describe me. What's totally toxic. Fortunately,
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  Speaker 1: my company's management forgave me for the invite. For the invite,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, I don't know, pat on the back for
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  Speaker 1: putting up with this, and decided it was the candidate
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  Speaker 1: that was crazy scary, so we took so we took
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  Speaker 1: her out of our database. Wow, okay, So another conting.
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  Speaker 2: She like she stalked him and got all this dirt
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  Speaker 2: on him, and then she sent it.
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  Speaker 1: Well she she just like went down and found all
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  Speaker 1: the emails to all the people, and then and then
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  Speaker 1: and then, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: So let's let's actually go through her plan.
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  Speaker 4: Let's say she does this successfully and gets that person out,
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  Speaker 4: she gets the job, and she's like, all right, we
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  Speaker 4: got that interviewer out, but you just like literally, you know,
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  Speaker 4: in a super toxic way, called her out, and now
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  Speaker 4: you want to start your job off that way? Like
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  Speaker 4: not really a great plan either way, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean? Oh yeah, when I blackmailed, Well, how did
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  Speaker 4: you get here? Oh yeah, I just threadned to the
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  Speaker 4: person who forgot my calendar invite.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if you think about recruiting, you know, you you
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  Speaker 1: cast a wide debt, draw a lot of people, and
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  Speaker 1: review the resumes, call it down, have interviews, call it down,
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  Speaker 1: get down to a single person. Right, That's the way
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it's done right. And you know, if you,
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  Speaker 1: if you, and regardless of the process, you get down.
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  Speaker 1: And then there was more than one. So the recruiter's
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  Speaker 1: life is hurting people's feelings more often than making people happy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean sorry, you know they'll say they get down
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  Speaker 1: to three four, you know, there's three or four people,
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  Speaker 1: uh that are going to be upset when the one
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  Speaker 1: is the role. And so they live they live the
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  Speaker 1: life delivering disappointment on top of like you know, the
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  Speaker 1: one person's super happy, they're you know, and they're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's so awesome, and then they got to like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta go tell.
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  Speaker 5: Five people that's true. Like I guess I did think
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  Speaker 5: about that.
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  Speaker 4: That for every job and somebody who's trying to fill
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  Speaker 4: that job, it's ninety percent bad news to all the
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  Speaker 4: people that are involved, and then it's that one little
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  Speaker 4: small percentage of the good news that one person gets
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  Speaker 4: the job.
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  Speaker 5: That stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody goes home crying it but one, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Which I'm sure that's a really fulfilling moment when they
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  Speaker 4: get to deliver that good news when it works out.
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  Speaker 4: But that's a lot of a lot of letdown along
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  Speaker 4: the way. I guess that's hard, all.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, let me do my story first.
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  Speaker 4: That was through one of these calls, these virtual calls
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  Speaker 4: with one of the virtual guests. Yeah, so this is
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  Speaker 4: Sheila and she just retired, but she actually used to
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  Speaker 4: work for Zoom. She said she was hiring for Zoom
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  Speaker 4: during during like the peak of COVID. If you win Zoom,
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  Speaker 4: it totally exploded if you can imagine that many people
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  Speaker 4: that she had to hire. So she's super legit. So
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  Speaker 4: we'll definitely tag her when he posts this out. But
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  Speaker 4: she this is one of the one of the stories
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  Speaker 4: that she told me in my interview with her.
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  Speaker 5: So if we can play this.
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  Speaker 3: So our candidate and I'm going to call her Candy
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  Speaker 3: looked great on paper. So I went out to the
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  Speaker 3: lobby to bring Candy back to the interview area. She
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  Speaker 3: was seated in the lobby next to a younger man
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  Speaker 3: who looked kind of scruffy. He was in a torn
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  Speaker 3: T shirt and baggy jeans, And she got up to
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  Speaker 3: come back after I called her name, and he also
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  Speaker 3: got up and gave her a kiss and said good luck, honey.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, okay, this was not on
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  Speaker 3: my Bingo card that we would come as a couple
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  Speaker 3: to our interview. So she came back and we started
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  Speaker 3: her interview, and she seemed kind of nervous. After an
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  Speaker 3: unusually long and rambly answer, kind of like noticed looking
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  Speaker 3: at each other across the table, and the leader of
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  Speaker 3: our team said, hey, you know what, thank you so
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  Speaker 3: much for coming in. We'll be in touch. So I
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  Speaker 3: grabbed her and escorted her out to the exit to
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  Speaker 3: the lobby. So I went back to the interview space
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  Speaker 3: and they were discussing the candidate, and the guard and
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  Speaker 3: the maintenance man rushed into the interview room and they
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  Speaker 3: were like, whatever you do, do not hire that woman
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  Speaker 3: for this job. And we're like, oh my god, what's
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  Speaker 3: going on. So apparently shortly after she left the lobby
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  Speaker 3: for her interview, her boyfriend wanted to use the restaurant.
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  Speaker 3: I have a public restroom available, and the guard told
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  Speaker 3: him that and explained to him that if he wanted
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  Speaker 3: to go into the securitary have to have an ID
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  Speaker 3: and an escort. Well, he did not have an ID.
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  Speaker 3: Started screaming at the guard. That caused the maintenance man
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  Speaker 3: to come out of his office to see what was
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  Speaker 3: going on, and he became more and more belligolent, belligerent
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  Speaker 3: until the guard and the maintenance man had to ask
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  Speaker 3: him to leave the building. So he left the building,
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  Speaker 3: headed out for his car, and then he stopped at
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  Speaker 3: the edge of the parking lot, turned around to face
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: the building and unzipped and started urinating in the short
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: stopped in the hedges and just did it, zipped up
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: and went to his car. So the guard and the
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: maintenance man went out and told him specifically that he
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: was trespassed off the property, he had to leave, and
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: that they would let you know, his girlfriend know that
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: he was parked on the public street right around the corner.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: So she was pretty shocked when he wasn't in the
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: lobby and really distressed that she had to walk a
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: half a block to get to the car, and needless
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: to we did not hire her.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: But now I feel kind of bad because, like what,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: they didn't hire her because of him.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Well, she brought him, that's her choice. There's no way
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: that was the first sign is crazy behavior.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: It's kind of funny though it also reminds me of
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: that story that we read, I don't know if it
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: was last episode or a couple of episodes ago, of
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: the woman that would like urinated in the parking lot
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: because she was just she wanted to avoid work by
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: just sitting in the car all day, and then she
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: just wouldn't go inside to use the back.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: I never fully understood that story. Is like me neither
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: how someone could.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: Think that a weird, weird red flag theme for us
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: to have just being in the parking lot with the candidates, like, oh,
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: that's the red flag to look out for. I guess
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a super relatable story, but
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: it's happened more than once, which is kind of crazy.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I bet, I bet there are so many recruiters and
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: hiring managers and stuff out there that have had like
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: these dual interview things. I've read that that some of
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: gen Z's have their parents to an interview for that.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: You know, it's probably some helicopter parent who is so
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: involved and it's like, you know, I'll come to interview
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: with you, honey and help help you get through this.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: They'll understand, or maybe they're their ride, you know, the
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: interview well I gave to I don't know.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know that's that's that's a that's
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: a great story. I bet that's not the you know.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I still feel kind of bad, like, you know, when
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: the maintenance guy had to come up, I do not
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: rushing in.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: We don't ever want him near here. The scruffy boyfriend, right,
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: But that is.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: That is interesting that he came with her and sat
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: in the lobby.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: He's been supportive, I guess. But then I guess, But then.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Did you go sit in the lobby ter and your
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: wife's interviews when you know we're dating?
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: No, I can't say that. Did you wait in the
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: car let her know? Let you didn't go with her?
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: I guess not, bro, So I did not remember.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: I also didn't the parking lot either, So.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: That we both have jobs today.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: So go.
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: So okay, let me get on to my second story.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: This one was real quick.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: This was also submitted for the contest, so more opportunities
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: for people to win two thousand dollars.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: At the time this happened, I was part of the
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: executive leadership team at a growing organization responsible for hiring
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: and firing. I'd interviewed hundreds of candidates, and I genuinely
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: believed that I had a good instinct for people we
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: were hiring for a front office role. This person would
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: be the face and the filter of the organization. They
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: would touch everything every on a day to day basis, clients, staff,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: and operations on a daily basis. On paper, our newest
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: candidate looked solid, they stable resume relevant experience. But in
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: the interview, oh, in the In the interview, she seemed
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: like the right fit, and she talked about being dependable,
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: staying organized, supporting the team behind the scenes, no red flags.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Another executive interviewed her with me and we were completely
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: aligned on this. References checked out, We all felt confident.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Then her first day came along. The person who walked
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: in that door was not the same person that we
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: interviewed always the first day, so it was actually the
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: same person.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: OK. I was confused when we've had that. We've heard
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: stories about people interviewing any of the twins someone else.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the evil twin walks in.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: No, just a different energy and says her energy was
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: completely different. She was loud, dominating over sharing that one calm,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: steady presence that we had during the interview was not
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: there anymore. So I pulled the other executive aside and
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: I said, is this even the same person? And they
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: said technically yes, but practically no. Over the next few weeks,
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: the problems continued to add up. Conversations derailed, tasks were
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: not completed, as instructed staff started to quietly come to
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: leadership with their concerns. The front office went from being
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: an anchor to a source of constant tention. So we
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: get what we did what good leaders do. We clarified
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: some expectations, documented feedback, all that good stuff, but instead
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: of improving, she got worse. So eventually, after months of
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: careful management, we decided that.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: We had to let her go.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: We handled it deliberately, professionally, knowing that the personality we
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: were dealing with was on the difficult side. So looking back,
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: what stuck with me most is this, the person we
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: met in the interview only existed for about that one hour,
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: and the person who showed up every day after that
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: was completely somebody else, entirely, And so that's something we
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: have to plan for in the future going forward.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess everybody, that's what you call really good
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: interview training.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: I guess.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: So I about to say, I was like, I understand
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: it to an extent, but only like not in this one.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: We were completely acting out of character, and like, like
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: I get like when you go to interveryw and you're
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: nervous and you're like it forward, Yeah, you're trying to
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: a super professional and everything, and then you get hired
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: and then you get into the company and like you
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: let your personality come out or whatever.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: It is a little quick on the first day, on
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the first day, if you're completely like that'ncing off the wall. Yeah.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard because, like in any interview, you want
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: to be the best version of yourself, trying to make
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: a really good first impression. Uh so, I understand the
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: aspect of it, but to like do that so much
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: that that's not even a real person. And then when
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: you started somebody completely different, I feel like you're making
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: a first where people.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Are questioning is this the same person?
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: That's how you know, if you're a professional, you're hiring
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: people right, yeah all the time. You got to believe
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: that after years of doing it, you know, for a
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: big majority of it, they have figured out how to
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: get past some of that. Yeah, you know, I mean,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: so to pull it off, to be like completely someone different.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: That's what the challenge was. Gause, Yeah, good feel for.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: That really really you know requires work and to get
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: past someone who does this for a living. You know,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: we know so many recruiters and folks who satin hundreds,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: if not thousands of interviews. Yeah, you know, and probably
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: can smell that from a mile away, junk from a
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: mile away, you know, but some still slips through. I yes,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: so that's tough.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: I thought those actual bad hire yeah, realistic story.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: But yep, me now, yep, okay, hold on, okay, I
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: have two today. They're both submissions. So these were submitted
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: for our contest. Okay, the first one is super short.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I'll just I'll just get into it. This one. We've
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: we've read a couple of stories kind of like this one.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm the executive director of a nonprofit
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: for literacy. We trained volunteers to deliver literacy instruction to
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: underserved struggling readers. Our students are between six and ten
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: years old, so like really young children.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I'm in love already. I love it.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: One volunteer was so smart and so eager to become
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: a literacy tutor, and I thought she would be the
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: best tutor. On her first meeting with the family and me,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: she came into the library carrying a container of what
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: looked like tea. It was not tea, just.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Pre curses it.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: In just a few minutes, I realized she was very
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: badly intoxicate.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: And oh that was it?
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what was it?
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: It wasn't tea your interpretation it was, Yeah.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Turbon. I don't know. Dang.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's tough, especially young kids like that. I'm
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: sure you have fired on the spot.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Of course, the first meeting to first.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Day, A lot of first round here we should I mean,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: you know, it's the bad hire.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: I guess a lot of times that behave.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Yours that first that first a fail is It is
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: amazing how many times we hear stories about day.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: And obviously I don't know anything about this person or
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: their personal life, so I'm I'm in no place to judge,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: But like, why would you come in on your first
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: day like that? If you excelled in the interview and
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: like you're so eager to be a tutor, and then
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: you come in and.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Bombing to stop long enough to interview. Yeah, seemed like
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, sometimes I don't know them, and
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: yeahs to judge them.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: It's a disease, you know, the any help? Yeah, yeah,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: all right, I hate to see it.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I got one more. This one's a little bit longer. Yeah,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: kind of long, all right. My startup was raising an
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: early funding round and one of our key investors knew
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: we needed a chief technology officer to quarterback our tech development.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: He had a friend with some technical experience that had
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: just sold his company to a brand. Our investor actually
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: made his investment contingent and book upon us hiring his
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: friend as our CTO at an annual salary of three
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: hundred and sixty thousand dollars. Oh nice, my co founder is.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Some premium dove for a startup.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my co founder and I were taken aback by
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: the number, as we were a pre revenue startup and
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: hadn't even taken salaries ourselves yet. Since the investment was
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: critical to us our and our key investor was vouching
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: for this person, we agreed to the terms, signed documents,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: received the wire transfer from our investor, and hired the CTO.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: He was living in New York and we were based
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, so we only met him two or
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: three times and spent one afternoon going over his technical
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: development plan on a whiteboard. That was the only deliverable
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: we ever received from him. As his first month with
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: us was coming up, we called him for an update
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: on his progress. He went on for about thirty minutes
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: on how he planned to build out our tech stack
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: and went over his ideas for our future set. Just
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: before we were about to hang up, he said, oh,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I forgot to mention something. We thought it might be
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: something regarding the tech plan. He continued, I thought I
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: should tell you that I took a full time managing
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: director position at Goldman status. He said it like he
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: was telling us what he had for lunch, Like, oh,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: by the way, yeah. My co founder and I looked
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: at each other, thinking we must have misheard something. Did
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: you just say you're now working full time?
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Wait for how long have you been doing that?
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: He's been there for a month.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, still not believing what we had just heard, and
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: he replied, yes, and it will actually be really good, Yes,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: and it will actually be really good for you, like
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: the CTO said that to them for him, Yeah, yeah,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: actually be really good for you that I am.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: We're have this full time position for them.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: We were incredulous it'll be good for us. How is
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: it good for us that you'll be spending forty plus
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: hours a week at Goldman when we just hired you
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: to build our platform for.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: Three hundred and sixty thousand this year. Yeah?
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: And he said, well, I'll be able to do the
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: work for you at night. I'll be able to focus
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: on getting your bill done even faster, he said, nonchalantly.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Even faster than if I did it during the day.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no distractions at night, and I was looking for
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: a job. Yeah.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: And they're like, we'll have to think about that. We'll
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: call you tomorrow. Was about all we could say. Still
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: in shock over over our three hundred and sixty thousand
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: dollars moonlighting employee, we hung up that call and immediately
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: called our investor. His reaction was like, as expected, what
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: the heck, that's way out of line. I'm really sorry, guys.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: How much have you paid him? We told him we
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: just made our first monthly payment to him of thirty
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Okay, don't worry, I'll take care of it.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: You won't have to deal with him again, he told us,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: And as we hung up the call, we both looked
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: at each other and did a double take. Is this
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: what we could expect on the road to building a
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: tech platform?
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: It turns out it was problem.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: The thirty thousand dollars lesson prepped us for dealing with
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: some of the false promises, deceitful conduct and self serving
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: egos involved in the software development space that we were
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: to experience.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: In the near future.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's not not to spoil it, but that
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: was Steve. That was Steve's story, the guy that I
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: interviewed on River. Oh really yeah, so he told me
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: that story. So if you want to hear that full story,
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: like in in depth and all the kind of stuff
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: it goes around it, Like, I think we have the
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: full cool.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I didn't put the people's names on here. I just just.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: As she was telling the story, I was like, I
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: swear to heard this before. It's because I watched that
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: interview with him. Yeah, it was, it was. It was
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: actually a pretty interesting interview, super interesting. Yeah, and yeah,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: he tells a story about and that it's so true
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: that can happen, you know, for startups and those that
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: depended upon investors, because investors end up, especially their significant
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: more significant though, with a lot of power to put
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: people to work for you to say you got to
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: use this or you got to use that, and you
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: know a great great example of you know that networking out.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: So yeah, and I think he put it really well
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: where it's like I guess this is what I can
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: back when I'm building a tech company or however you
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: kind of put it, because yeah, that's what we're kind
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: of saying about this whole show being relatable or people
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: in hiring. So for anybody who's kind of hiring in
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: that space, yeah, building a tech startup or whatever that
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: might be. Yeah, there can be a lot of big
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: swings like that that can be unexpected.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, lot, are you still building? You if you were
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: out you were in Silicon Valley, right, I.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: Was right near there. Yeah, so I worked for a
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: few startups that.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: You know, it's always kind of like, oh, we're gonna
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: make a billion dollars or actually, sorry, no, we're going
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: on you know, and it's because of that kind of thing.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: They have these big dreams, the big promises.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, three hundred sixty thousand dollars a year whatever,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: and it just goes like that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you remember you telling me when we were inter
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: of you and you were like, yeah, I went to
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: work for this one company and I actually thought, Okay,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: this will be good. He'll be resourceful. But you're like
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: and they told me, oh, you've got this big budget.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: You got this budget, and when you got there, like
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: thirty days later, you know, your senior person left and
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: they were like, but just now zero good luck, you know, good.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: Luck, you know those kind of normal.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, my chief marketing officer was fired on my twenty
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: first day, so like my boss. Yeah, so then I
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: was the only marketing person at the company pretty.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Much, right, and you went from budget to no budget.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like, I think they're spending.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I actually love the story.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: It's one of the reasons I gotta be resourceful because
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: it made you resourceful. I was like, if this dude
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: can do it on zero, I'll take you. Yeah, well
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: I'll try to make our budget zero.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I love it. Yeah, why were you just asking
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: me for a bunch of money? I don't understand. I
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: don't know, is your every request for money with you
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: didn't have any before and you did twenty million views?
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: What's the deal?
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: You got a point? Yeah, but imagine if we went
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: from zero to a million per year.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to stay flexible with all the big changes,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: I guess.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: But anyways, that full interview with Steve is on our stage.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I hope people watch it because I think it is
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: kind of it is kind of in a way he's
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: an interesting dude in a way.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: It kind of reminded me of the guy that changed
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: his salary to a million dollars a little bit in
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: our last episode. Yeah, I kind of pulled it kind
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: of reminded me of that a little bit. Yeah, still funny. Yeah,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: it's funny.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Cool. Well, I it was fun. Well, thanks for joining
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: us today. We appreciate it. Yeah, thanks for listening to
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: the Bad Hire. Yeah. Yeah, another you know, we're like
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: all new to this so and I think it's it's
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  Speaker 1: getting more and more relaxed. I I was shoding you
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  Speaker 1: between shows. It just feels more relaxed, getting the more
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, just more comfortable, and you
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  Speaker 1: just learn how to do it, and you know, eventually
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  Speaker 1: you just get enough reps where you can do it
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  Speaker 1: without trying to be so structured. I think maybe that's
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  Speaker 1: one of the fun things that we got this nice
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  Speaker 1: It was just kind of like hanging around like we
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  Speaker 1: are when the cameras are off.
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  Speaker 4: We got this nice new podcast studio we're hanging out
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  Speaker 4: in and yeah, so it's it's been coming along.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah we did. We put one in here, we put
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  Speaker 1: another studio in another room. Yeah, we've been We've been
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  Speaker 1: shooting into my office for the last couple of months.
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  Speaker 1: You know, so shot today in this bonus room or
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  Speaker 1: this other that looks that good? What Yeah, the confort
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  Speaker 1: it's like, hey, you just got to start, you just
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  Speaker 1: We don't have everything we need, as let's get a
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