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- 0:00Speaker 1: So, Sarah, what is the real world impact of Vance's
- 0:02Speaker 1: speech yesterday and Erica Kirk's endorsement. Does it it helped
- 0:06Speaker 1: Vance begin, at least at this point, put together donors,
- 0:09Speaker 1: maybe already potentially talking to some top political operatives. I mean,
- 0:14Speaker 1: if you're going to set yourself up for a run
- 0:17Speaker 1: three years, isn't too soon to start?
- 0:21Speaker 2: No, Exactly, JD. Vance is definitely going to be the
- 0:23Speaker 2: top contender in this race, and in this primary, he's
- 0:27Speaker 2: going to be the guy to be, and he's going
- 0:28Speaker 2: to have the backing of folks like Erica Kirk that
- 0:31Speaker 2: you just mentioned, and also a lot of top fundraising ability,
- 0:35Speaker 2: and he's going to have the backing of billionaires like
- 0:37Speaker 2: Peter Thiel. So he's definitely going to be the one
- 0:39Speaker 2: to compete with. But I do think that voters don't
- 0:42Speaker 2: like a coronation. I think that the Republican Party is
- 0:45Speaker 2: going to want to see a rigorous primary and they're
- 0:48Speaker 2: not going to just want to see this handed to him.
- 0:51Speaker 2: And honestly, it will make whoever emerges as the nominee
- 0:55Speaker 2: that much more of a strong candidate going into a
- 0:58Speaker 2: general election if they go through a rigorous primary. So
- 1:02Speaker 2: even though he's going to have all of this chatter
- 1:04Speaker 2: three years out about him being the potential nominee and
- 1:08Speaker 2: heir apparent of the MAGA movement. I don't think that
- 1:12Speaker 2: that means that he is necessarily going to be the
- 1:14Speaker 2: Republican nominee in twenty twenty eight.
- 1:17Speaker 1: So, Susan, I'm curious about your take on that and
- 1:20Speaker 1: how Turning Point USA's early endorsement advance might impact other
- 1:23Speaker 1: Republicans who obviously may not even be in the conversation.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Let us remind folks that the first time that Donald
- 1:31Speaker 1: Trump was nominated for his party, the prohibitive favor going
- 1:35Speaker 1: in with a guy named Jeb Bush.
- 1:38Speaker 3: That's right. It's a long way from now until the
- 1:41Speaker 3: convention in twenty twenty eight that will nominate the Republican
- 1:46Speaker 3: candidate to succeed President Trump, and a lot will happen.
- 1:50Speaker 3: Things will happen that we can't predict here. But obviously
- 1:53Speaker 3: jd Vance starts out as in a strong position. A
- 1:58Speaker 3: Turning Point has helped him solidify that strong position, so
- 2:01Speaker 3: as Trump's general embrace of his vice president. But that's
- 2:06Speaker 3: not going to be everything, and what we don't know
- 2:08Speaker 3: and what cruise I think is trying to calculate is
- 2:11Speaker 3: whether the party in three years will want somebody who
- 2:16Speaker 3: has hugged Trump as closely as possible, or whether President
- 2:19Speaker 3: Trump will be a mixed blessing, certainly a strength with
- 2:23Speaker 3: some Republicans. Will there be other Republicans interested in having
- 2:26Speaker 3: the party move in a different direction. And this is
- 2:29Speaker 3: a position Cruise is comfortable with. You remember, at the
- 2:31Speaker 3: convention in twenty sixteen, he did not endorse Donald Trump.
- 2:36Speaker 3: He gave a speech to Booze that said you should
- 2:39Speaker 3: vote your conscience. So he has a history in training.
- 2:42Speaker 3: While he's been a ally of Trump during his Trump's presidencies,
- 2:46Speaker 3: He's somebody who is comfortable putting just a little distance
- 2:49Speaker 3: between him and Donald J. Trump.
- 2:52Speaker 1: So the Trump may be term limited, but Donald Trump
- 2:55Speaker 1: Junior made it clear that his father's mag movement isn't
- 2:58Speaker 1: about to be going anywhere. Take listen.
- 3:02Speaker 4: The Democrat Party wants to do whatever they possibly can
- 3:07Speaker 4: to shut this movement down. Not just the Democrats, the Rhinos.
- 3:15Speaker 4: You see the manufactured attacks on JD. Myself fought anyone
- 3:23Speaker 4: who understands that this isn't the Republican Party anymore. It's
- 3:27Speaker 4: the America First Party. It's the Make America Great Again
- 3:31Speaker 4: Party and we are not going back.
- 3:37Speaker 1: I mean that's a challenge, right. I mean, you've got
- 3:40Speaker 1: the base, as we've long referred to it, the MAGA
- 3:43Speaker 1: supporters of the president, who have been through thick and thin,
- 3:47Speaker 1: pretty reliable in terms of voting. What does that mean
- 3:50Speaker 1: for Republicans like Ted Cruz who are trying to carve
- 3:53Speaker 1: out something else and maybe following conventional wisdom which says
- 3:58Speaker 1: you can't win with just the base.
- 4:01Speaker 2: Yeah, I will agree with Don Junior that Donald Trump
- 4:04Speaker 2: has remade the Republican Party in his image. But that's
- 4:08Speaker 2: the thing is that it's in Donald Trump's image. I
- 4:11Speaker 2: think that once Trump leaves office, it's going to be
- 4:13Speaker 2: really hard for anyone to continue the success of the
- 4:16Speaker 2: MAGA movement and take the mantle because no one is
- 4:20Speaker 2: Donald Trump. No one can replicate him. We saw Ron
- 4:23Speaker 2: DeSantis try to do that in the twenty twenty four
- 4:26Speaker 2: primary where he tried to be Trump Light and voters
- 4:29Speaker 2: just didn't buy what he was selling. And so I
- 4:31Speaker 2: do think that the MAGA movement is still going to
- 4:34Speaker 2: be around once Trump leaves office, but it's not going
- 4:38Speaker 2: to hold the same power. And I do think that
- 4:40Speaker 2: there is going to be a shift within the party,
- 4:42Speaker 2: and it seems like Ted Cruz is starting to calculate
- 4:45Speaker 2: that a bit and get ahead of it. I think
- 4:47Speaker 2: you're also seeing folks like Marjorie Taylor Green who are
- 4:49Speaker 2: trying to say, no, I'm the real MAGA, let me
- 4:52Speaker 2: take over the movement. And so you're seeing these fractures
- 4:55Speaker 2: within the party and people trying to calculate which way
- 4:58Speaker 2: the winds are going to blow as we get closer
- 5:01Speaker 2: to twenty twenty eight. But I do think it's a
- 5:03Speaker 2: little bit early right now to know where the Republican
- 5:06Speaker 2: Party will be at and what the appetite is going
- 5:09Speaker 2: to be for the type of candidate that folks are
- 5:11Speaker 2: going to want.