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Thank you. Now here are the hosts of the
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Episode one O 1. We're going to touch a little
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bit again on the Christmas overtime, the Mou and the joy
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under fire. I guess it was about the easiest
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way to put that one. Oh, so yeah, we're a few things
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lined up for this evening. So how was your week, James?
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It was about normal for after Black Friday and Cyber Monday
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and everybody shopping online had probably the most packages
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I've had all year on Wednesday. Overall didn't do too bad.
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I still got done around six because it was very light mail
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compared to the packages. But overall, I mean we had some
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snow here but it didn't really cause any issues for traction on
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my route this time. Only had about an inch or two in
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most areas. And then got to the weekend and
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back here for the podcast. Haven't really had much to
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complain about. Just been doing my page posts
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every single day and talking with carriers every single day
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like I normally do. So, but how was your week of not
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to do this bill? Oh God, let's see how many, how
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many things did I not do? 143 I believe, but I didn't
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bother counting them because I didn't want to do them.
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So no, it's been a normal week for me in regards to fielding
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questions and answering your queries in regards to what
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people should do, shouldn't do. You know, the going over the
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overtime is one of the things that hit this weekend.
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It's just so significant that we go over it just briefly because
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of the fact that people were still is asking questions that
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a, in my opinion, should not be asked again.
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But they're apparently our offices that have no idea of how
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to get paid and what they're allowed to do, what they're not
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allowed to do. And there are offices again,
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that management is enforcing imposing their will or district
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directives on them in regards to trying to cheat them out of
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their due salaries for their work and their efforts.
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And it's this and the shit out of me.
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I mean, God, I mean it really is it it's it's a all out attack on
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the rule craft right now really is.
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Other than that, it's been enjoyable.
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Just got rid of another grandson about an hour and a half ago.
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I love seeing both of them on the weekends and the weather is
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warming up, but comes at a price because we're going to get rain
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with that. So better than snow.
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Hey, how about you Kristen? How was your week?
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Long. Every day was long.
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Monday was a 12 hour day. Friday was a 12 hour day.
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Oh, eleven and a half hour day. I, it was a long week.
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I had second trips a couple different days.
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Yeah, it, it was mail wasn't bad, but again, with the
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packages it was, it was crazy. And we had the one day where
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Amazon didn't show up until 9:30 with half the carriers that
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already left for the office and I was on my way out the door and
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having to come back and run a second trip because of that.
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And or I thought I was getting assistance on Friday.
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And they didn't do that because our one POV route had about 70
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packages that he could not fit into his POV.
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So they took what was the person that was supposed to assist me
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and had them assist the other RCA delivering those packages.
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So I had a second trip yet again on Friday.
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I had one on Thursday. I I think I had like three of
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them this week. It was just insane.
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I heard yesterday was light. I don't know.
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It was my relief day. So I got to sleep in a little
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bit yesterday. But yeah, it was starting to
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warm up here too. It's supposed to rain tomorrow,
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high of 42, which is going to turn the snow into slush.
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We got our first real snowfall Tuesday night so Wednesday
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morning was fun. I had yet to put the puzzle
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weights and everything in my in my LLV as did one of the other
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carriers. So her and I decided to help
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each other out. So when she was her truck was
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pulled up to the door and she was getting the weights and I
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was setting them in for her and then put my truck up and she
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basically the same thing. And grab a couple extra sandbags
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for her to take back to her LLV. And yeah, it was it was fun.
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Not so much makes for longer days when you're having to fight
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the snow. But yeah, other than that, not
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too bad of a week in general. Just you know, it's Christmas
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time. Parcels are heavy do.
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Me a favor, Kristen explain to people the puzzle weights.
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A lot of people aren't familiar with that terminology because of
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the fact that, you know, they don't have them.
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Our office never had them. Did have a city carrier who had
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them basically brought it over from his other office.
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So explain the puzzle weights to the carriers.
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Weights our square blocks about yay big.
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Some of them, well, the center ones are actually perfect
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squares. You have ones that go around the
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outside perimeter on the floor of your LLVFFV, your government
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vehicle, and they interlock like puzzle pieces and they're
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usually filled with sand and weigh about 5 lbs each.
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So it adds that extra weight. And the state that I live in, it
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is illegal to run chains on any vehicle.
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So we don't run chains in Michigan and for the most part
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district does not approve offices to have studded snow
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tires. So we, you know, we have to use
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weights. I personally don't weigh down my
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truck a lot. I do the puzzle weights and then
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I put one sandbag over each wheel well.
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That way. It just gives me a little bit
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extra that way. Also, I have sand if I need to.
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I did have to bust one open last year because I got on a slick
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surface trying to get out of a incline driveway.
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Not a big incline, just a small one, but was just enough ice to
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not let me let let me move. So I had to bust open the sand
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and throw it down by the tires to get some traction.
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But yeah, that's what our puzzle weights are, is basically the
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perimeter actually looks like puzzle pieces that slide
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together. And in the center section is
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perfect squares filled with sand, approximately about 5 lbs
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each. And all of our trucks have them.
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We don't have maintenance at our at our location.
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And like I, you know, I said in pre show, our BMF is
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approximately 2 hours away. So that comes down on basically
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the carriers making sure that our trucks are properly ready
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for the winter, putting our snow shovels in or those stupid
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plastic tracks that are supposed to help you get traction that
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don't work because you put them underneath the tires, you hit
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the gas and they shoot out like, yeah.
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And then sand and whatnot. We need.
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And I know some carriers that'll put 456 sandbags in a tub and
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place one tub on each side by the wheel wells.
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To me, that's just way too much weight.
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That just doesn't help you at all.
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There is such a thing as too much weight, especially in those
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trucks. But once you get stuck, then
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you're really stuck because it's just going to sink you down even
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more. So I like to put one of the
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supervisors in the back. Not in my office, maybe out of
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yours, but. Hey, I used you to do a route
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inspection with me all day. Yeah.
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Yeah. So, so he used to say there was
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a couple of us that were brave in the cold and blowing snow
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that morning because like our truck didn't get to the dock on
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time. Our truck was running a little
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behind and then our company that's supposed to plow us out
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is not the greatest. And they then decided that they
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didn't know what they were doing in front of the dock and the
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truck had to wait for them to move so they could get to the
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dock. So, you know, we kind of made-up
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some time and yes, I did do it under PM casing or not PM
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casing. Excuse me, load truck start load
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because I was I was loading my truck with weights.
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That's something. I.
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Got paid for. We did have one supervisor she
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tried to do the ride along in the jump seat and came back in
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and said I can't ride in the back of that truck.
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And the comment was it doesn't cover my ass and OK, I'm I'm
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generally and keep a straight face when somebody said
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something like that and I lost it, I lost it.
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I always got written up for it. There was so far I was I was
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laughing so bad that I hurt myself.
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I really did couldn't breathe. I could couldn't breathe at all.
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I'm I'm down on one knee holding on to the case And and you know,
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this is not funny. I stole it.
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But yes, it is. Oh God.
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Then I then I got in trouble. Later when I thanked her for
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that amusing anecdote. They didn't think it was funny.
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I thought it was hilarious. I say, you know, Christmas
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season's upon us. I know what my route is like at
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Christmas time from before when I was a sub running it and even
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before that watching, you know, before I even started on that
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route. But you know, you just kind of
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take it in stride and I got the, I'm sorry, I had to send her out
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on the other row. I know you didn't want to do a
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second trip. Yep, as I'm getting back at
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6:15, the last thing I wanted to do is load up the packages and
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go out for another trip. But I did it for all 7 miles.
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It was like 4 stops. That was all I left.
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But two of the boxes were so big, they took up half the floor
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of the LLV. So I yeah, yeah.
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So, yeah. You know, it's just, it's it's
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that season. What else can you do?
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Just bear with it. I just keep my lighted finger
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gloves charged up and ready to go when I need them, which I
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think I used them four out of five days this week.
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Yeah, I dropped off 5 pairs of them last week at my office.
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Yeah, I did not I like. I did not make evaluation at all
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this week. Most days I was well over 10
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hours, sometimes 1111 1/2. Now the reason, James, I wanted
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to go over the Christmas overtime a little more because
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of the questions being posted on different platforms and it, it
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amazes me that people don't understand.
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I mean, the Christmas overtime is pretty straightforward and we
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have people on the platforms responding saying you don't get
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you overtime until you go over 56 hours.
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No, you get overtime after you go over your evaluation.
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You don't get overtime if you're helping on another route.
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Yes, you do. All year long you get help.
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Do you get double time on Sundays?
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No, you don't get. There's no such thing as double
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time unless it's in the grievance.
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We've been directed not to go over 600 minutes of load time
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for a week and it is what it is. If if you go over 600 minutes,
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you know it's 610 minutes, There's no benchmarking allowed.
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And especially if you're doing, you know, multiple trips, you
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may go over that 600 minute limit.
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If you're assisting on other routes, you may go over that 600
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minutes. If in, you know, in some cases
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where you have APOV you're making three trips, you damn
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well might be going over 600 minutes.
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Do not let anybody tell you that there is a 600 minute benchmark,
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which is illegal. The other thing that got me how
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many trips management told us we don't get load time for putting
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DPS and flats in the truck. Pardon.
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Me where? Where the fuck are you and who
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the Hell's telling you this? You only get load time.
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You only get load time to put parcels in.
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And I just sat there shaking my head and you know, by time, by
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the end of Friday, I had 138 responses back on it saying, you
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know, and and you know, don't forget this, don't forget that
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and don't forget your marriage, male.
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If you're picking it off the floor and putting in a
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conveyance, that's load time. Folks.
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If you're picking parcels off the floor and putting them in a
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conveyance, that's load time. If in your case, like our case,
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we have a parcel area and we have a bullpen area, taking the
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parcels out of the bullpen hamper and putting them into
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your conveyance is load time period.
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Everything you're putting in the truck is load time, picking off
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the floor load time. It paid for what you do.
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That's what Rex is supposed to do.
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So don't let anybody bully you or bullshit you or bully you in
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to say now it's just for male. Oh, sorry.
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I, I I'm just, I'm so pissed that people are that naive.
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That they have like that, yes, all of it.
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And we grieve benchmarking. We grieve benchmarking every
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time they do it because now it's gotten to the point where it is
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no longer the supervisor doesn't know any better.
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This is intentional. It is malicious, unilateral, and
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you should not be falling for it.
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And grievance should be filed immediately.
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And management not knowing as much as carriers is a good
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thing. But at the same time, management
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knows what they're saying to these carriers.
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Management knows what they're trying to do.
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And the biggest thing they're trying to do is get themselves
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off their their district managers list.
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That's all they're doing is trying to get off their district
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managers list so they can just smooth sail while they sit on
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their computers and play solitaire or scroll Facebook on
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their phones. Or sit on the office floor
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putting together Garland when the clerk has been asking her
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stamps because she has a line out the door and doesn't have
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any stamp stock at the counter. I'm sorry.
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We don't sell, no stinking stamps.
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And that's why I tell everybody if you file agreements, it is
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intentional at this point over anything with Rex because
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management knows what they're doing at this point.
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And if they don't, well then they obviously have been under a
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rock for the last two years before they made that.
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Decision and and what's the best way to fight bad management?
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An educated carrier informed carrier, somebody who's been
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paying attention to the contract to the MO use a six O 3,
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somebody who will stand up for themselves.
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I I sat there. What was it?
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Somebody said something about four Subs are sitting at home
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and you know you're out there making extra runs, especially
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during the overtime period. Those Subs should be used
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utilized because of the fact that they're cheaper than the
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regulars. But management isn't even that
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smart. Now, they may not have vehicles
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available, they they may have problems with getting sorting
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done in a timely fashion, but whenever you have Subs sitting
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at home and you're paying time and half to a regular, you're
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losing money. Folks, you got to be some kind
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of special dumbass not to realize that.
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All right, so I got a copy of the Postal Bulletin dated
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10/31/24. This is the finance section.
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There's a bunch of exhibits I'm not going to go over all I don't
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know how many. 14 pages. Trust me, I'm not going to do
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that, not going to go through the exhibits because it's
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basically showing management how to enter in the pay for the
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Christmas OT. I'm just going to go over the
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highlights real quick, yet again, explaining the Christmas
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overtime procedures. So Christmas pay procedures for
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rural carriers. The 2024 Christmas period for
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rural carriers began begin Saturday, December 7th, which
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was yesterday Week 2 pay period 26/20/24 and ends Friday,
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December 27th, 2024 Week 2 pay period O1 of 2025.
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During this period, certain time keeping and pay rules apply.
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Time keepers, including postmaster supervisors and other
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employees responsible for rural carrier time and attendance
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according recording, must become familiar with Article 9.2, Point
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H Christmas Allowances and Procedures of the Handbook
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EL9O2, which is the agreement between the USPS and the NRLCA
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Association, 2021 to 2024. The article describes types of
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compensation that world carriers are entitled during the
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Christmas procedure period. Excuse me, related time keeping
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procedures and regulations for the Christmas period and special
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rules that begin with the start of the guarantee year which was
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October 5th, continue through the end of Christmas period
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December 27th. The preferred method of time
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keeping data entry is through the RMSS web application.
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I am not going to go through the exhibits.
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So the next one is the overtime during Christmas period.
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Regular carriers designated 71 FLSA, which is your fairer Labor
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Standards Act. B Types of overtime During the
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Christmas period Regular carriers are eligible for the
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following two types of overtime, AFFLSA overtime and B Christmas
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overtime. FLSA overtime is paid at all
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times of the year, not just during the Christmas period.
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Regular rural carriers are paid FLSA overtime under 2
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circumstances. A hours worked in excess of 12
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hours in a day. If a carrier works more than 12
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hours in a day, the amount over 12 is entered in the daily
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overtime block on the PS Form 1314 and B hours worked in
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excess of 56 in a week. These hours are calculated
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automatically when the total hours worked are greater than
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56. No separate entries are
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required. That is the FLSA.
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That's where those 56 hours in a week come in.
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That is year round, all right. Christmas overtime is paid only
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during the designated Christmas period.
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Regular roll carriers are paid Christmas overtime under 2
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circumstances. A Christmas assistance.
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This is assistance provided by the regular carrier on his or
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her relief day. Christmas assistance work hours
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are entered in the Christmas Assist Work Hours block on the
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PS Form 1314. So if you go in on your relief
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day and give provide partial assistance on your route then
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that would go under the Christmas overtime under
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Christmas assistance and then B hours worked in excess of
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routes. Evaluation is based on the total
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actual work hours for the week, not on individual days.
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For example, if a route has a daily evaluation of nine hours
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and the regular carrier works 10 hours on two days and eight
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hours on the other three days, no overtime would be paid.
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Even though the carrier exceeded the daily evaluation on two days
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of the week, it did not exceed the weekly evaluation.
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The weekly evaluation is 45 hours.
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The carrier worked 44 hours, then it reverts back to looking
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up at the F 21 Section 567 for overtime calculation when leave
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days are taken during the week and for routes with evaluation
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less than 40 hours. These hours are calculated
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automatically, so no separate entrances or calculations are
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required. The overtime rate The overtime
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rate paid to regular FLSA Code B carriers is 150% of the
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carrier's regular rate. The regular rate is determined
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by dividing the total compensation received for hours
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actually worked by the carrier since the beginning of the
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guarantee year, not including overtime, by the total number of
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hours worked since the beginning of the guarantee year, not
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including overtime. This overtime rate is used for
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both the FLSA overtime and the Christmas overtime.
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That's why we have the beginning, that's why we have
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the guarantee period is because of that time from the beginning
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of the year through the Christmas overtime period as
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used to calculate our overtime rate.
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OK, replacement carriers, replacement carriers designation
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7073747576777879 are only entitled to FLSA overtime for
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these employees. FLSA overtime is paid for hours
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worked in excess of 40 in a week.
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Regular carriers designation 71 FLSAFLSAA right there are
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carriers who FLSA code is a are paid for hours actual hours
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work, not evaluated hours. They are paid overtime for hours
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in excess of eight in a day or 40 in a week.
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These would be the people that when you first go regular and
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you have that option of going hourly through the through the
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end of the guarantee period or evaluation.
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I know most people take the evaluation.
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So that would be the would be the FLSA a code A for the FLSA
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code A carriers and our hours in excess of a in a daily overtime
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block on PS form 1314 hours in excess of 14 a week are
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calculated automatically by the system auxiliary route carriers.
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Now this has been one that's come across to me a few times. 2
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questions wise. Carriers serving any auxiliary
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route are compensated at the hourly rate for actual hours
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worked during Week 2 of pay period 26 and both weeks of pay
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period O1. During this period, carriers are
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not paid the evaluation of the route.
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Overtime is paid only when the carrier exceeds 40 hours for the
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week. That's auxiliary route carriers.
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That's all it says. Carriers serving any auxiliary
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route are paid hourly Christmas assistance and additional
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service provided on a rural route during Christmas period.
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For regular carriers, Christmas assistance applies only to
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assistance given by the carrier on his or her relief day, while
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a replacement carrier is assigned to work the full route.
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For the replacement carriers, it applies to any assistance
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provided on a regular or auxiliary route during the
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Christmas period. Christmas assistance is reported
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in the Christmas Assist Work block, blah blah blah.
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Regular carriers can perform Christmas assistance only on
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their relief day. Therefore, any regular carriers
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assigned to AJ or K routes may report Christmas assistance.
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Regular carriers are assigned to route types H or M, which is a
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mileage route, which we there's still only one left in the
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country cannot perform Christmas assistance because these route
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types do not have a relief day. Note in accordance with the
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agreement between the parties regular rule, carriers may
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perform service on Sunday or provide auxiliary route on other
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routes in the office. This is considered FLSA daily OT
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not Christmas assistance. So there are example.
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These are examples of Christmas assistance.
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A regular carrier comes in on his or her relief day and helps
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replacement carrier case the route.
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A regular carrier comes in on his or her relief day and
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carries part of his or her regular route list the
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replacement carrier on the 1314. A replacement carrier carries
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part of a regular route during the Christmas due to Christmas
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heavy heavy Christmas volume. Those are the examples of
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Christmas assistance. These are not examples of
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Christmas assistance. A regular carrier comes in on
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the relief day in cases and carriers their regular route.
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The regular carrier works two hours beyond the daily
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evaluation of the regular route and a regular carrier performs
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any work while assigned to an H or M route.
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So that right there should explain it.
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It's considered the Christmas, Christmas assistance if you come
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on on your relief day and you help your sub out whether it's
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casing or taking partial the route or doing parcels on your
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route on your relief day. So and then yeah, going over
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your evaluation is Christmas overtime for the week.
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It's by the week, not by the day.
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Anything else to add, gentlemen? There's 13 more pages, but it's
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all the exhibits and I am not going to go through them because
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they're not needed because it's how whoever does the payroll
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entry should enter it in. But it is available.
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If anybody wants a copy of it, just ask or I'll probably post
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it up in the group too. I'll download the file so our.
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Next topic we had was at the end of the last sewer training that
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they had, which was dealing with a difficult grievant, was the
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training that they had. But all the stewards in the
29:41
training, from what I heard, wanted to talk about the MOU,
29:45
wanted to get answers for why the union did this, and they
29:52
were all disheartened by the comments made by John Adams and
29:57
Nikki Phillips when it came to this MOU.
30:01
One of the biggest things that stood out to me was them saying
30:05
this was the best out of three options and they didn't really
30:09
go into details on the three options.
30:13
And it felt like it was forced down our throats without any
30:18
regard to the carrier to the point where I heard a steward
30:23
stepped up and literally questioned them point blank on
30:28
it and told them that they're now fielding so many questions
30:33
about the MOU and why would the union do this to the carriers
30:37
and things like that. You know, And Kristen, you, you
30:41
had something that somebody sent to you from dealing with this
30:46
MOU as well, didn't you? Yes, let me let me get that
30:55
right here. Pull it up on my phone because
30:58
that'll be easier. And it kind of broke my heart.
31:05
I understand where they're coming from.
31:08
But yeah, this, this was not an easy decision.
31:15
Says to curtail the bullying and mistreatment.
31:18
I stepped up to be the union steward with the MOU where the
31:22
union and the post office has basically turned me and many of
31:26
my coworkers into indentured service.
31:30
I have chosen to resign not only as a steward but from the post
31:34
office all together. I just wanted to share my letter
31:38
of resignation to the union and this here.
31:44
I hereby tender my resignation as a local steward of the NRLCA.
31:49
It has become blatantly obvious that the NRLCA is not a union,
31:53
but a criminal organization that only seeks to steal from its
31:57
members while working in concert with the entity it is supposed
32:02
to negotiate with to further cause harm to its members.
32:06
Its decisions are arbitrary and capricious and not in line with
32:11
the best interests of the craft it alleges to represent.
32:15
For the Union and USPS representatives to openly admit
32:20
any route adjustments and pay rate is based on flawed
32:23
information and incomplete data, and then turn around and oppose
32:27
these arbitrary pay scales on its members employees is nothing
32:32
short of indentured servitude. My conscience will not allow me
32:36
to be party to these criminal acts and malicious behavior.
32:40
I therefore resign my stewardship in the NRLCA.
32:44
May you find peace and a better path in your next life.
32:48
Thanks for all you do. We we do appreciate you guys.
32:51
Now they did decide to not resign from the post office
32:56
basically to be there for one of their Co workers that is going
32:59
through a lot of stuff and and really needs that.
33:08
Oral Support. Yes, so they have decided they
33:12
are going to stay with the Postal Service to be there for
33:15
that Co worker in front. It wasn't an easy decision.
33:19
They were ready to completely walk away.
33:25
And this is true across the entire craft.
33:27
This is true across the entire craft.
33:29
There are so many carriers right now that have turned around and
33:34
quit because of this MOU. Gave up on 2025, thirty years of
33:40
a career just because of this MOU as the icing on the cake.
33:45
It isn't the only reason they're quitting, but it is one of the
33:48
biggest reasons that caused them to step out the door for the
33:53
last time. And the continued assault that
33:57
keeps occurring on our pay from the beginnings of Rex to now
34:04
just continues to pile on the carriers.
34:06
And then you have management harassing them and benchmarking
34:11
them and things like that. When does it stop?
34:14
When do we actually get somebody who actually cares about this
34:18
craft enough to stop the constant loss of revenue for
34:24
these carriers? Well, that was like the the
34:33
e-mail that a POOM did sent out in another state.
34:38
I mean, look at reading that was just enough to say what the
34:42
hell? I mean that yeah, top down
34:49
management, they don't give a shit.
34:52
I am I, I'm going to read that e-mail that went around that was
34:57
sent out by a POOM in another state.
35:01
All right, I kind of have to read this.
35:03
It's, I'll warn you guys, I mean, this doesn't reflect any
35:08
of our personal thoughts, but. This is the opinion of that whom
35:13
and that whom only. Exactly due to the lack of
35:18
compliance that Postmaster Managers and Supervisors
35:21
continue to do, consider this message as your written
35:25
instructions moving forward through the peak season.
35:28
Failure to follow these specific instructions will result in
35:32
corrective action without exception.
35:34
I will hold the installation head responsible for the actions
35:38
of your subordinate managers, supervisors and two O 4B's.
35:42
Make sure you communicate these instructions to your staff,
35:45
including the Saturday and Sunday operations.
35:49
There will be no parcel runs of any type in your office no
35:54
matter what the size or number of routes you have without
35:58
advanced approval from me the day before.
36:03
You are required to create static routes to accomplish any
36:06
6 to 9 operation that I get approval for in advance.
36:12
You should have an idea based on your PM distribution how many
36:15
routes you will need. I will need the name of the
36:18
employees and the anticipated packages per hour.
36:23
Do not go off the reservation and run your own play that was
36:28
in in cap locks. You are not paid to agree with
36:34
the instructions given to you. You are paid to follow the
36:38
instructions. Make sure you do.
36:41
Do not call me begging for forgiveness for failure to
36:44
follow these instructions. They are clear and non
36:48
negotiable. There are to be no employees on
36:55
any St. operations after 2100. I have to inform the DM if this
37:01
is going to occur. I am chasing the same offices
37:05
every night for this information and still not getting accurate
37:09
answers. If you pay attention to what is
37:12
going on at 1800, you should know if you have any potential
37:15
issues. If we don't get this under
37:18
control, the postmaster will be required to stay until the last
37:22
carrier returns. In most of these offices it is
37:28
performance issue that is not being addressed.
37:31
Do not put your job career at risk by falsifying clock rings.
37:36
There are too many ways to verify this information.
37:39
I need this information by 20-30 at the latest.
37:43
Don't make me text or call you looking for it.
37:46
Again, the installation head is responsible for this information
37:52
#3 the policy has not changed for allowing employees to work
37:57
over 12 hours in a day or 60 hours in a week, or more than 11
38:01
consecutive days. Obviously, this district has an
38:04
11 consecutive day thing. This includes carriers, rural
38:09
carriers, clerks, custodians and supervisors.
38:13
We are starting, we start talking about this on Monday and
38:16
Tuesday, yet we still fail by Friday.
38:19
Again, I am not interested in your opinion on labor contracts
38:23
and reasons why you exceed these limitations.
38:26
These are the instructions from the DM and they will be
38:29
followed. Many of these are performance
38:31
issues and lack of expectations. Monitor the performance of of
38:38
all your operations and address the employees that are asking
38:41
for your attention #4 Non deliveries are to be accurately
38:46
and reported correctly. You must aid notify the District
38:50
B Enter the information in DCV and C Enter the information in
38:55
FDB. If you or your closer are unsure
38:59
of the requirement, contact so and so to walk you through it.
39:03
CPMS issues are also properly documented.
39:06
There is a discrepancy report in radar.
39:09
You must provide an I can't read that FMO number for any box not
39:16
collected for any reason. No exceptions.
39:20
Call me if you need clarification on these
39:21
instructions, but they are not negotiable, so please don't
39:24
think you will be the exception. Wow, see, and you and you wonder
39:31
why postmasters and supervisors all have a foot up their ass and
39:36
they're walking around on, you know, pins and needles because
39:41
this is a type of management overseeing them.
39:45
So, you know, shit, shit comes downstream and guess what?
39:51
They're they're in the line of fire.
39:53
Jesus Christ. I I I wonder how Thomas Kearns
39:58
feels about his e-mail now becoming public domain.
40:03
Because all these emails technically are public domain
40:06
and can be FOIA requested through the United States Postal
40:09
Service. But he sent this to 44
40:15
postmasters. On top of that he sent this to
40:22
three other people carbon copied.
40:25
So that is 4047 people that got this e-mail and now it's it's on
40:33
the Internet. And to me, this guy right here
40:39
needs to go. That is not the type of
40:42
management that the Postal Service even needs, nor is it
40:46
management that needs to be here anymore.
40:49
This I'm the dominant 1 and don't ask any favors of me.
40:53
Don't ask me to change anything. Don't even tell me that it's
40:57
against the contract, because I already know it's against the
41:00
contract and you're going to do it anyway.
41:03
That kind of mentality needs to go.
41:06
If you're not willing to follow the contracts, then you
41:10
shouldn't be a manager of the United States.
41:12
Postal Service. And if you can't treat your
41:17
employees with dignity, respect and fairness, you don't need to
41:22
be in charge either. Yeah, it goes.
41:26
It goes for supervisors and hostmasters as well as the
41:29
craft. And this guy somehow got
41:34
promoted to manager of Post Office operations in Ohio
41:37
District 1. Ames is no different than the
41:42
guy who sacrificed two of his own children being a poom in my
41:46
district, OK? And was expected, you know, to
41:50
be in charge of our welfare when two of his own children died in
41:54
his vehicle. So they don't give a shit.
42:00
No, they don't. Yeah, they sit there and they
42:03
read reports, they do the numbers, and this is how it's
42:07
supposed to be done. You're dealing with people, not
42:10
robots. You're dealing with situations
42:12
outside of our control, The weather, the Amazon truck that's
42:17
late, the DPS truck that's late, the the shortage of Subs, you
42:22
know, people, you know, people are already bone tired from
42:27
working their overburdened routes.
42:29
My overburdened route was overburdened for only six years
42:33
before I left. And on a personal note, in
42:36
regards to that Lady who was who resigned as being a steward and
42:39
was going to leave the post office, she understands what I
42:44
went through. OK.
42:46
But my problem is that, well, none of my problem, but I have
42:51
the, I had the opportunity to be able to leave and, and somebody
42:54
sits there and says, oh, Bill, look at all the tips and, and
42:57
gifts of this for Christmas. This was never about making tips
43:01
and Christmas or getting gifts. This was about my own sanity in
43:06
regards to dealing with people who have not been fired, have
43:10
not been disciplined, have not been removed, the way they treat
43:15
us. And you know, whether it's the
43:17
post office that should act on it or our own national board
43:21
should be pressing this issue, it didn't matter because it
43:25
hasn't been done for years. And until we put the hammer down
43:30
on these bastards and don't cut that, but I mean sincerely,
43:34
these bastards, nothing will change.
43:40
So somebody finally comes in to the national board that actually
43:43
is willing to put their foot down on stuff like this.
43:47
And taking, taking the control out of the local office has been
43:51
the biggest problem that the Postal Service has had.
43:54
And this gentleman right here, I won't even call him a gentleman
43:56
because that was there was nothing gentle about what he
43:58
just said. Has absolutely no clue how to
44:02
actually be a proper manager. And no $80 million spin at the
44:08
University of Oklahoma is going to change that type of mindset.
44:14
That's somebody that just needs to go.
44:16
Yeah. I want to know who has the
44:19
foresight to know the day ahead of time, the evening ahead of
44:24
time, which carriers are not going to call out, how many
44:28
trucks are going to be late, what the weather conditions are
44:31
going to be. I mean, you know, you have to be
44:34
just this short of a freaking genius to know all that so that
44:39
you can give this asshole projections on what your hours
44:43
will be the next day or who is going to need extra help.
44:47
I want their cat. I want that carrier's name.
44:51
What? I talked with my postmaster the
44:53
other day. He's like, I'm like, do you know
44:55
about how many packages we're going to get tomorrow?
44:57
He's like, we won't know until at least 11:00 at night, if not
45:01
later, because it has to go through the system.
45:03
The plants have to process that in order for us to know.
45:06
And our office, by the way, doesn't have all their packages
45:10
processed at the plant until 4:00 in the morning.
45:13
So there's no way my postmaster could turn around and send an
45:17
e-mail and say, hey, I'm projecting.
45:18
These people are going to be working over their hours.
45:20
These people are going to be offering package assistance,
45:23
blah blah blah at 5:00 at in the evening the day before.
45:33
Yep. And, and we've all heard already
45:36
that, you know, the companies that drop off to us, that's
45:40
Amazon, UPS, whatnot may only report to say, oh, we're, we're,
45:46
we're sending 100 parcels, but they're actually dumping 100 and
45:49
5200 on us. They're inaccurately reporting
45:53
what they're shipping to us as well.
45:56
So no, you don't have it accurate until the day of and
45:59
they get sorted to the routes. Which which is a good point
46:03
because we had a U PS: a large UPS facility less than two miles
46:09
from our office. Depending on how many trucks
46:12
they had, how many drivers they had would dictate how much they
46:16
would actually drop off to us. And sometimes this is a real
46:20
good one. I love this one.
46:22
Sometimes they wouldn't even have a truck driver to bring it
46:24
to us, but as long as it was off their dock in a truck, he
46:30
considered it delivered to the USPS and customers would say,
46:35
hold it. You got it this morning at, you
46:37
know, 610. No, it's still sitting at the
46:40
UPS dock and, and we were being charged, you know, for failures.
46:47
How do you have failures if you didn't receive them in yet?
46:51
Yeah. Like I said, they're sitting
46:55
there reading reports, looking at a computer screen.
46:59
Get off your damn asses and and get a handle on what's what's
47:02
happening in the real world. Speaking of real world.
47:13
That was a nice segue into that. We have the real world to talk
47:20
about with Postmaster Dejoy and his Senate hearing he had on the
47:24
5th and how real world it got in that Senate hearing for Dejoy.
47:34
I'll admit I. Have not watched it.
47:36
Yet, but yeah. Oh, nobody brought any KY.
47:48
They went right up to the elbow too, man, I mean.
47:51
With the hot. Sauce, huh?
47:55
You know, I, I will put it this way, considering I, I did do a
48:03
breakdown of it on my page, but you know, Senator Ossoff,
48:09
Senator Peters, Senator Rosen, Senator Hassan were spectacular
48:16
in this hearing. Josh Hawley had some good
48:21
points, but Blumenthal, this dude is all far off in left
48:26
field. All he cares about is selling
48:28
off postal property so that his cities can redevelop them and
48:32
have developers make extra cash on them.
48:35
And Rand Paul, I'll save him for the end.
48:47
So some points that I wanted to go on.
48:50
He's trying to tell the senators that the collection of mail is
48:55
the only piece that's actually slowing down in the Postal
48:57
Service, even though his standards went from two to three
49:04
day delivery at 90% to three to five days at 90%.
49:10
Local transportation optimization, You can't explain
49:14
why it's it's flowing nailed down and it's not consequential
49:19
or cost savings for a local T transportation optimization.
49:24
But changing to a regional approach is more economical.
49:30
610,000 people work for the Postal Service. 710,000 retirees
49:37
in the postal rolls, $10 billion in retirement is why they're in
49:42
the red. Could not raise prices fast
49:48
enough to cover inflation. What inflation cost does the PO
49:52
post office cover? You know what?
49:55
What exactly did go up in cost? Because obviously payroll
50:01
didn't. Yeah, payroll isn't enough for
50:10
those working all the overtime because they don't have Subs and
50:13
they're having a regular relief days.
50:16
Yeah. Well, it went.
50:17
It went down because another table one retired in September.
50:24
When Hassan was Hassan was asking the joy questions, he did
50:30
make the statement. We have a service standard for
50:33
the whole country, not just localities, it's the whole
50:37
country as a whole. He can't just do specific
50:40
regions or things like that for standard.
50:45
Talking to Ossoff, when Ossoff was questioning him, when he was
50:51
asked about the death in Palmetto, you know, the SNDC, he
50:56
was supposedly had a microscope on to fix things and get it
51:01
fixed. Within 60 days of the last
51:03
Senate hearing he had, he was quoted saying, I have a lot of
51:07
events throughout the course of the year.
51:09
I have a lot of deaths throughout the course.
51:11
I don't know specifics. So you had a microscope on
51:15
Palmetto and you weren't informed that a member of your
51:20
employment died in your facility.
51:25
And he said that a approximately 10 deaths a year in the Postal
51:29
Service. Holly was a good one, especially
51:35
Missouri. You know, the elimination of end
51:41
of day collection in Missouri would cut off about 65% of
51:46
Missouri post offices for end of day collection.
51:52
But he countered with 88% of Postal Service mail originates
51:59
within 50 miles of a hub to Cities account for the most
52:06
amount of mail because that's where most of the population is
52:09
located. Rural America may send letters
52:12
every single day, but if somebody in two people in the
52:16
city are sending letters every single day, that city is going
52:18
to have a lot more mail than the rural route is.
52:24
When Marshall was questioning him, he said we've had a
52:28
defective pricing model for 20 years, 20% inflation, and it
52:37
cost $3.5 billion flying male to reach the three day standard.
52:43
And by cutting out the flying, he cut $1.5 billion from the
52:49
transportation budget. So you took 3.5 million out of
52:53
flying the mail, but you only saved 1.5 total.
52:56
How is that possible that you increased 2 billion in
52:59
transportation, sending it with trucks, and now you can't even
53:04
get it there in four days. Now you're at 5 days.
53:09
This is to the people. There is a romance with an
53:13
organization that long ago lost its ability to do the service
53:17
everyone expected. It was obvious in the past.
53:21
We let it go. There's a significant resistance
53:23
to any change. So he says that there's a love
53:26
affair with the post office as it used to be, not what it is
53:30
today. I'm sorry.
53:32
I think there's still a love affair with the post office the
53:34
way it is today with all the packages and mail that we
53:38
deliver. People still respect their
53:41
carriers more than any other federal agency out there.
53:46
And then he said 640,000 people, remember earlier I said 640,000
53:54
people work for the post office, 640,000 people need to learn how
53:59
to operate like FedEx and UPS. That's the only way we survive.
54:04
So cut out rural delivery because we're the last mile for
54:08
FedEx and UPS in a lot of places where FedEx and UPS don't
54:11
deliver. So all those areas that don't
54:14
get FedEx, UPS, Amazon, DHL, any of the other carriers and rely
54:20
on just the Postal Service for parcel delivery, if we operate
54:25
like FedEx and UPS, we wouldn't deliver to them.
54:31
And he also took a shot at the Postal Regulatory Commission by
54:34
saying the Postal Regulatory Commission doesn't understand
54:38
modern day logistics, productivity and aggravation.
54:43
And then he went on to say that it's hard to be profitable when
54:46
you have significant unfunded mandates by Congress.
54:52
Well, last thing I knew we weren't for a profit service.
54:55
We are that of a public service and not for a profit business.
55:04
The only are what we are. We actually are.
55:08
The only public service out there that makes a profit is the
55:12
Federal Reserve because they print their own profit.
55:16
What, what, what gets me is that I got my Eagle magazine and in
55:20
in there. Dejoy says the continued success
55:24
of the post office will carry through the Christmas period.
55:29
Hold it. You just announced a $10.1
55:32
billion loss despite all your efforts to reduce our cost, but
55:39
we have a successful Christmas season coming up and somebody
55:45
explain that to me. And who and who makes that
55:50
Christmas season successful? It's not management.
55:55
It it it's the carriers, it's the mail handlers, it's the
55:58
clerks, it's those of us that have our feet on the ground at
56:02
the lower levels that make it work.
56:08
The people that actually move the product are what makes it
56:12
successful. The people barking orders don't
56:15
do anything to make it successful.
56:21
Do what? UPS layoff unwanted, unneeded
56:24
management. We can layoff almost all
56:26
management. That's how good we are.
56:29
That that's how well trained that the rule craft is.
56:33
We need minimal management. What we need is managerial
56:40
commitment and cooperation to get the job done.
56:44
You don't need no more management.
56:47
Yeah, as long as I know where to grab my mail and get my
56:51
packages, I am good to go. Let me case that up, pull that
56:55
down, load my truck and hit my route and do what I can for my
56:59
customers while I'm out on the street.
57:04
Or tag 93. They they replaced the AC so
57:07
they couldn't get new batteries for scanners.
57:10
That's as bad as when Westchester went to the SDNC and
57:14
we couldn't get rubber bands. Rubber bands What?
57:21
Explain that one to me. The custodians turn around.
57:29
We we we have to use the outside porta potties because the inside
57:33
bathrooms don't have enough toilet paper for all the new
57:37
employees in the FTC. OK.
57:43
All right. Yeah.
57:45
I mean, yeah, you just make this shit up as you go.
57:48
Yeah. And and your your customers look
57:50
at you like, you know, Bill, come on.
57:52
Hey, what are you doing, drugs again?
57:54
I said never stop us. But the fact of the matter, the
57:58
fact of the matter is this is the bullshit, you know, that we
58:02
go through every day across the country and.
58:09
There were a few more comments that he made during this in his
58:12
opening statement that I want to go over before I get into Rand
58:16
Paul. He said when he took over, the
58:20
Postal Service was about to run out of cash.
58:23
The Postal Service has been about to run out of cash for
58:26
what, 30 years now? 40 years somewhere around there.
58:29
Yeah, this is late 80s. Deferred maintenance.
58:34
Not equipped for modern delivery.
58:37
Poorly evolved package products. 57% of the 31,000 facilities did
58:45
not cover the cost of the employees that worked at them.
58:49
So 57%. That's a little less than all
58:53
the rural facilities in the United States. 76% of our two,
58:59
twenty, 235,817 delivery routes lost money.
59:07
Out of the 55,000 trucks that they run daily, 70% were empty.
59:15
Four different networks they had were at significantly low usage,
59:19
I'm guessing probably close to rural areas.
59:24
They wanted to do changes in collection delivery times to
59:27
improve. It was a costly, chaotic and a
59:31
logical network designed for mail, but must be redesigned to
59:35
include increased package volume.
59:38
He said his plan does not affect rural communities.
59:45
Transparency and accountability are things he wants in the
59:48
Postal Service, and we are not a typical government agency in the
59:53
fact that they don't get tax dollars except when the Senate
59:58
bails them out with a little, you know, postal reform or
1:00:01
something where they send in a little bit of extra money with
1:00:04
it. He said that the Postal Service
1:00:07
has many competitors trying to figure that one out, the many
1:00:13
competitors that we have that deliver mail through the United
1:00:17
States. We also have many layers of
1:00:22
regulations and oversight that would cripple a private company
1:00:29
and it has significant significance as it has crippled
1:00:32
the Postal Service in the past. So regulatory bodies covering
1:00:38
not only the Postal Service, but you have regulatory bodies that
1:00:41
cover private businesses as well.
1:00:44
And you're saying that it they're all crippling it.
1:00:47
Well, yeah. Things like OSHA retaliation.
1:00:50
We know they, they sent that out in an e-mail that OSHA
1:00:52
retaliation is something they want to stop.
1:00:56
They don't want to prevent it. They just want to stop OSHA
1:00:59
retaliation, you know, things like that.
1:01:08
Now what? What about those 674 post
1:01:10
offices out in Kansas that weren't getting service that was
1:01:17
in in that interview? I didn't make notes on that.
1:01:22
I was trying to. I was, I was just typing as he
1:01:25
was talking, trying to get through it.
1:01:28
Yeah, I I barely found like half the stuff he was saying.
1:01:32
That that that's the epitome of being rural out there in Kansas,
1:01:36
OK. Kansas, Missouri, North Dakota,
1:01:44
South Dakota, You know, Montana, Wyoming, the.
1:01:49
Midwest. Nevada, Nevada, too.
1:01:54
I mean, Iowa UP of Michigan, you know, it's, it's crazy to think
1:02:03
that this gentleman thinks that we can operate like UPS, FedEx,
1:02:09
Amazon and so on while still servicing every household in
1:02:14
America. If we can operate.
1:02:17
I just don't. Where, where?
1:02:18
Where's our parcel jumpers? Exactly why don't we have a
1:02:24
stair seat in the LLB? You know, and not one in the
1:02:27
back one. That one where they actually
1:02:29
have a door they can quickly get out of instead of having to
1:02:32
crawl across your lap to parcel jump for you.
1:02:34
Yeah, exactly. Well, we don't have parcel
1:02:36
jumpers anyways, but yeah, I mean, yeah.
1:02:41
It's it's getting so bad out there.
1:02:42
I saw an Amazon guy running to the front door the other day.
1:02:47
Not from to the front door. Oh yeah.
1:02:52
I've never seen an Amazon person run.
1:02:54
I've seen it a couple of times. I usually joke with him because,
1:02:58
you know, either he's blocking makeup turning into to deliver a
1:03:02
parcel, or I'm blocking his way and he's having to run from the
1:03:05
street. So.
1:03:06
But yeah, at that time, I just look at him.
1:03:09
Hey, you want to trade? I bet I got more than you do.
1:03:15
If they had to deal with the mail and the parcels, they'd
1:03:18
quit in the first day. Oh yeah.
1:03:20
They probably come call off from the route saying come pick up
1:03:23
your truck. And a lot of the times I see,
1:03:26
especially with our Amazon Flex drivers in my area, is one
1:03:31
person's driving the vehicle and it's the other person sitting
1:03:33
next to him in the passenger seat that's getting out and hop
1:03:36
in the packages. Oh by the way Mr. Johnson, the
1:03:42
NRLCA does have merchandise and they are selling it to make up
1:03:46
for the loss of dues for members bailing from the union.
1:03:51
Just my personal opinion, so might not be might not be true,
1:03:57
but it's my opinion. Let's get into Rand Paul.
1:04:02
Oh God, the most uninformed Jesus illogical speaker I heard
1:04:08
on that Senate hearing. I need to go get liquor.
1:04:11
Hold on. This.
1:04:16
This guy, this guy, you know, as soon as he started talking, I
1:04:20
went and got the crown. This guy, he's so.
1:04:30
Anti union that he can't see the facts beyond the nose on his
1:04:37
face and he made statements the Postal Service should be private
1:04:44
which they've been talking about for decades.
1:04:46
Again, privatize the Postal Service so we can get it off the
1:04:49
federal rolls. The Postal Service converted
1:04:54
190,000 employees to career and a private company wouldn't do
1:05:01
that. They keep them non career, keep
1:05:03
them without benefits, without full time pay, without overtime,
1:05:07
and so on and so forth. In his eyes, if a company had to
1:05:13
do the pay increases that the Postal Service did, they would
1:05:16
shut down their plants in the union state and move them to a
1:05:19
right to work. Non union state postal workers
1:05:24
made or union workers made 50% more than non unionized workers.
1:05:30
Hang on Rand Paul, So you're saying that non unionized
1:05:34
workers made half as much as unionized workers?
1:05:37
So in my opinion, those non unionized workers should
1:05:40
unionize to get that pay from those union workers.
1:05:43
But then you'd want them to move them to a right to work state.
1:05:46
Well, what happens when every single state in the United
1:05:48
States gets whiff of this 50% increase of of pay and they all
1:05:54
unionize? What are you going to do then,
1:05:56
Mr. Paul? He needs to.
1:06:00
He had a in Kentucky. They went from the pension plan
1:06:04
where the government sponsored the pension plan to a
1:06:07
contribution plan. So you shifted the cost of the
1:06:11
retirement plan from the company to the employee is what you're
1:06:16
saying? And no funding, no funding to
1:06:21
the United States Postal Service should be given without labor
1:06:25
changes. So get rid of the unions and
1:06:28
we'll give you money. In Rand Paul's eyes, he did
1:06:34
actually say hubs have resulted in worse deliveries and
1:06:37
services. So I'll give him credit there.
1:06:40
He did recognize that these hubs are costing money and costing
1:06:45
time and efficiency. Yeah.
1:06:50
And on top of that, companies have to provide to their owners
1:06:54
and shareholders and have no responsibility to their
1:06:57
employees. And don't, don't do it by adding
1:07:03
more union employment. Does Rand Paul realize that
1:07:07
since he's been in office that the postal services had added
1:07:12
more management to the Rolls over and over and over again?
1:07:16
Because in the 1980s we had one manager for every 20 carriers,
1:07:21
Then in the 2000s we had one manager for every 10 carriers,
1:07:25
and as of last year we were at one manager for every 7
1:07:30
carriers. Now granted, some people could
1:07:33
argue that it's the fact that we aren't hiring enough people and
1:07:36
don't have enough people to work the routes alone to cover that
1:07:40
gap, but you're still way more managers than you need for the
1:07:44
number of employees that are actually doing the work.
1:07:50
Well, hold it. That means you get up to the
1:07:54
standards of past years. You'd have to be able to hire
1:07:58
approximately another oh 200,000 employees to equal the
1:08:04
management levels, which would then have fully stocked post
1:08:09
offices as far as Subs are concerned and people could have
1:08:15
their days off and talking to their family, go to the doctors,
1:08:21
get their vehicles fixed. You mean those 200,000 people?
1:08:27
Dumb ass. What a fucking dumb ass.
1:08:32
But. Like somebody says, he he does,
1:08:34
he does attract attention and and that's what he is.
1:08:37
He's a sideshow. It's up to the people in
1:08:40
Kentucky to contact Senator Rand Paul and tell him what they
1:08:44
think of him. I'm I can't, Kristen can't.
1:08:48
Bill can't because we're not from Kentucky.
1:08:51
And if we called his office, they would just take notes on
1:08:54
what we said and then throw it in the circular filing bin when
1:08:57
when we hang up the phone because they wouldn't care.
1:08:59
Because we're not constituents in Kentucky.
1:09:03
But the people of Kentucky can talk to Rand Paul's office and
1:09:06
give them his opinion. And I thought we it was bad in
1:09:10
Pennsylvania with having Federman in office.
1:09:14
Oh, it is. I would say Kristen and I are
1:09:18
lucky having Gary Peters in our state, but.
1:09:25
Yeah, it. Makes me feel like it makes me
1:09:29
feel the disconnect between management and US and the
1:09:33
disconnect between management and Dejoy.
1:09:35
The disconnect between Dejoy and the Senate Oversight Committee
1:09:39
is just something that can easily be bridged, can easily be
1:09:44
fixed if somebody actually sat down and took the time to fix
1:09:47
it. But I guess the message is what
1:09:52
people at the top like. The confusion, the the lack of
1:09:58
knowledge passed through the system, I guess it benefits the
1:10:01
people at the top more than it does anybody else.
1:10:04
Especially poems and impoos that send out emails that are
1:10:09
garbage. Yeah, I yeah, I have no words.
1:10:16
Like I said, you know, when, when I made my decision to
1:10:19
retire it, it was basically maybe 5-6 years in the making.
1:10:25
The way everything's going and, and especially from our own
1:10:30
union, that's, that's the most disparaging remark I can make.
1:10:35
Our own union has failed us and we need to change the rest of
1:10:41
the national board. And, and it's a shame that Nikki
1:10:45
Phillips and John Adams are on board with signing this MOU, but
1:10:49
there's there's no way that the three of us would ever sign
1:10:53
that. We told them to take that.
1:10:55
We told Kathy Peron to take that MOU and use it for the toilet
1:11:00
paper. It was worth.
1:11:04
And that's, that's The thing is I don't, we don't know for sure
1:11:11
whether they agreed to it or not.
1:11:13
You have to remember anytime they talk on behalf of the
1:11:17
union, it has to be agreed upon on the national board from the
1:11:22
president because the president is the one that authorizes
1:11:25
people to speak on things. So we have to figure it out.
1:11:31
So if they want to contact me on a non union phone and tell me
1:11:34
whether they agreed with it or not, I'll take their phone call.
1:11:37
They have my number. But you damn well know that they
1:11:42
had to go with the majority. And then it's a majority vote.
1:11:49
It could be five and four. We don't know until until I can
1:11:52
actually get through to Tommy Turner.
1:11:55
I keep trying to call his office but I keep getting his
1:11:57
secretary's voicemail every time I call and they don't call me
1:12:01
back. Wonder why?
1:12:04
Oh shit. So.
1:12:15
But I hear that the city carrier ballots are going out.
1:12:21
Yeah, they'll be delayed until the end of Christmas.
1:12:24
Well, I I'm guessing that by the time frame that I've seen, it's
1:12:28
probably going to be February before we actually have the
1:12:31
answer on what their vote was. I'll give it to you right now.
1:12:40
From the from the social media presence and the rallies that
1:12:45
I've seen and heard about, it's very hard for me to think that
1:12:49
they would vote yes on it. But we don't know what's behind
1:12:54
the curtain. So we have to presume to not
1:12:58
know which way it's going to go on the basis that maybe just
1:13:02
maybe, you know, we'll have a bunch of ballots that just
1:13:07
appear out of nowhere for the count for them.
1:13:10
We don't know. This isn't like a political
1:13:16
election. It's not like they have extra
1:13:18
ballots anywhere, right? Oh, you'd be surprised.
1:13:24
I'm out. So, but hopefully they'll get
1:13:32
their stuff settled so that way these other unions can
1:13:35
negotiate. I do want to applaud the APWU
1:13:37
President for his very candid comments that he made in his
1:13:41
latest update. You guys.
1:13:44
Can go read them. We're not going to mention the
1:13:46
word that he used on here for fear of retaliation, but you
1:13:51
guys can go read it for yourself.
1:13:53
Because it was a striking comment.
1:13:56
Yes, it was. It was very, very eye opening,
1:14:03
but I figure, so somebody asked, do you think we'll get another
1:14:07
update on our contract soon? The updates usually he's giving
1:14:11
them out once a month. So we'll probably see it here
1:14:16
soon hopefully. I think I don't know when his
1:14:18
last update was. I can tell you here real quick.
1:14:27
1111 was the last update he had, so he should he did do a do a
1:14:32
video of his visit to Florida back when he went in October,
1:14:42
but he put in put a video together and put it out on
1:14:46
November 26th. So.
1:14:51
Oh, and I just want. To wait a minute.
1:14:54
A quick update for those with open enrollment, which was
1:14:58
initially scheduled to close tomorrow.
1:15:01
Open enrollment season has been extended through Friday the 13th
1:15:10
so. It had to be Friday the 13th,
1:15:13
isn't it? Yeah, so open.
1:15:22
Enrollment's been extended through the end of the week, so
1:15:26
for those that are still having issues with trying to get logged
1:15:29
in and make changes if necessary, open enrollment was
1:15:34
extended for a few days. Not my problem.
1:15:41
Yeah, I know it's not your problem.
1:15:43
Not mine either. Honestly, I'm not making any
1:15:45
changes, so I'm good there. But am I, you know, going with
1:15:51
the Real Care benefit plan does automatically switch over so.
1:15:56
Now, does that include the, the, what's it Espira, you know, FSA
1:16:03
plan where you're getting reimbursed?
1:16:09
I don't know if that includes that or not.
1:16:15
I would think, and for those that are wondering how to do
1:16:18
that, because I've seen some things post up on social media
1:16:21
and you go under Postalese and you go to the apps and under
1:16:27
flex spending account, it'll be highlighted in red and when you
1:16:31
click on that it'll automatically take you to the
1:16:34
Inspira Ruby standing behind me again we.
1:16:40
We can see. No Where's?
1:16:47
Our grandchild, we're supposed to get a, you know, a spot
1:16:51
Interview with the grandson here.
1:16:53
Where's the baby? He's sleeping.
1:16:58
We still don't have a start date for her yet.
1:17:00
So he's in the dryer, Bill. Well, yeah, it's a general cycle
1:17:06
though. Boom boom boom boom boom boom.
1:17:11
Yeah. Yeah, how are you rocking?
1:17:16
The police. Brown apple on the gums, man
1:17:19
Crown apple on the gums. He'll, he'll be fine.
1:17:24
Oh, she wants to hear the conversation.
1:17:30
She missed the good part. I know.
1:17:33
Yeah, why wait till he's teeth and let him get some experience
1:17:40
now? God, that's like put a new RCA
1:17:46
on a route for the first time. Here you go, follow the mail.
1:17:51
Yeah, yeah. So anything else guys?
1:17:58
Or are we going to wind this down for dinner?
1:18:00
I'm I'm good. I'm good.
1:18:04
Great. Go ahead and lead us off on the
1:18:06
final words tonight, James. You know, we, we talk about all
1:18:12
these issues in the post office and the things that are
1:18:16
happening to carriers and stuff like that.
1:18:19
Remember, the most important part of this is your own safety.
1:18:24
Whether it's them wanting you to be out late at night or doing
1:18:29
early morning deliveries in the dark, safety is your
1:18:33
responsibility. We talked about Dejoy and all
1:18:37
these other people on this podcast, but really we want you
1:18:40
guys educated. We want you guys to understand
1:18:44
that we understand what's going on with you.
1:18:47
We understand what is going on because we're out there on the
1:18:50
street with you, Kristen and I Bill's now retired, but he still
1:18:54
is on the street with terriers because he's talking to them
1:18:57
every single day. And that's the biggest thing
1:19:00
that can help a lot of people is just having somebody who
1:19:03
understands what's going on. So if you need help you you need
1:19:08
a listening ear, you're feeling stressed out because you're
1:19:11
working long hours and management's getting on you and
1:19:16
you need somebody to talk to. Reach out to us.
1:19:18
We're here for you, especially in this holiday season and.
1:19:23
Just somebody to vent to. I know I take vent phone calls
1:19:26
all the time. Yeah, maybe I.
1:19:31
I spend a minimum of an hour, two hours with somebody who's
1:19:34
venting on the phone with me. I know Kristen does too, you
1:19:37
know, and Bill does too. You know, we're here for that.
1:19:40
Because at the end of the day, we're all in this together,
1:19:45
Bill. Oh that, that's so true.
1:19:50
And, and even though I've taken retirement and I'm still
1:19:53
actively involved in my local, at my office and, you know,
1:19:59
across the country answering people's questions, most of the
1:20:03
topics that I've, I've come up with are people from across the
1:20:06
country are going through the same shit that you are, you
1:20:10
know, the same shit that the my office goes through.
1:20:13
And it needs to stop. Ladies and gentlemen.
1:20:16
I mean, I feel for you. I mean, the weather's coming in.
1:20:21
You've already gotten a little bit of snow.
1:20:23
Nothing ridiculous yet, but to hear these people talk.
1:20:28
Especially like the joy being questioned.
1:20:31
You have no idea what the hell it takes to run the post office
1:20:36
and you have no idea who runs the post office.
1:20:39
We do. We're the face of the post
1:20:42
office. If it wasn't for our efforts
1:20:44
every day this this organization would been down the shithole
1:20:49
years ago. But the people on the street
1:20:53
keep it alive, keep it thriving, keep the the customers engaged,
1:20:59
satisfied. I mean, three times this week
1:21:03
I've got calls from carriers doing my office and one outside.
1:21:08
What's so hard about giving the carrier a forwarding notice?
1:21:13
They're putting mail in mailboxes, the mail mails piling
1:21:16
up to go back to the office and say, do these people have a
1:21:19
forward in there? Oh yeah, we haven't gotten
1:21:21
around the premium. They get them and the forward
1:21:24
expires the next day. I mean, how freaking hard can it
1:21:29
be? You know, in between bites of
1:21:32
Chick-fil-A. Why can't you do your job?
1:21:36
Why can't you get off your ass and give people the parts
1:21:39
labels? Why can't you let them know
1:21:42
there's a problem with a certain customer?
1:21:47
Interactive cooperation. God, wouldn't you love to see
1:21:51
that in an office? Mothers moving in, Christmas is
1:21:57
upon us. You've got packages out wazoo.
1:22:02
Everybody take your time, be careful, be safe, you know,
1:22:06
don't. If the hairs on the back of your
1:22:08
neck go up, that means you ought to be stepping out of that
1:22:10
situation. Be safe, make sure you make the
1:22:14
most important delivery of the day and that's yourself, home to
1:22:17
your loved ones for Christmas because that's the most
1:22:21
important present at Christmas time.
1:22:23
You and your family around the tree, not what's under the tree.
1:22:26
God bless you all, Christine. Thank you guys.
1:22:32
Yeah, definitely stay safe out there.
1:22:33
I know some areas have gotten a lot more snow than others and
1:22:39
you know, definitely stay safe and make sure you get home to
1:22:43
your loved ones. Yes, we are all working long
1:22:45
hours into the dark, you know, do what you have to do to stay
1:22:50
safe out there and getting yourself home is definitely
1:22:55
important. But we thank you guys all again
1:23:01
and we will we'll be back next week, of course.
1:23:06
Have a good one everyone. Someone just messaged me and
1:23:23
said that somebody should remind Rand Paul that he is a
1:23:27
government employee too.