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  Speaker 4: edition again of disguised coverage. We are here to dive
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  Speaker 4: into the Buffalo Bills versus the Kansas City Chiefs in
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  Speaker 4: the AFC Championship, because of course we are. The Bills
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  Speaker 4: get another opportunity to slay the dragon, to defeat their
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  Speaker 4: art rival. I would say at this point, at least
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  Speaker 4: from a playoff standpoint, I think, what is the new
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  Speaker 4: age Manning versus Brady, the rivalry that is kind of
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  Speaker 4: centered around quarterbacks and teams that tend to get in
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  Speaker 4: each other's way from a regular season and playoff standpoint,
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  Speaker 4: but one tends to have the upper hand in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: That has been the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 4: The Bills get the opportunity to exercise those playoff demons
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  Speaker 4: against Kansas City by heading into Kansas City, the opportunity
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  Speaker 4: to beat them at Arrowhead, obviously a very important game
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  Speaker 4: for both teams.
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  Speaker 1: Winner goes to the Super.
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  Speaker 4: Bowl, but maybe a little more important for the Buffalo
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  Speaker 4: Bills considering their team history, franchise history, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: everything in totality, but especially as of late, with what they've.
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  Speaker 1: Had happened to them.
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  Speaker 4: And I say we because I'm not alone in this
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  Speaker 4: episode to have this conversation and break down all the
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  Speaker 4: x's and o's and scheme and structure piece of Bills
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  Speaker 4: versus Chiefs. I am joined by for the third consecutive week,
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  Speaker 4: mister JP Acosta of sp Nation. Folks who don't know
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  Speaker 4: I am superstitious, I'm very superstitious. I'm a little stitious,
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  Speaker 4: but no, I am very superstitious. And JP is awesome.
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't have ever ever had him on the show
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  Speaker 4: if he wasn't awesome, and if he wasn't awesome, they
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  Speaker 4: would override my superstition. But I'm very happy to welcome
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  Speaker 4: him back because he is awesome. We have great conversations,
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  Speaker 4: and also I'm trying to continue to ride this playoff high,
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  Speaker 4: this heater that we're on, of JP having you on
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  Speaker 4: and the Bills keep winning, so We're going to ride
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  Speaker 4: this train until the wheels fall off.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking the time. You are awesome. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the show for the third consecutive week.
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  Speaker 2: So I actually have a funny story to tell you
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  Speaker 2: about superstitions. Back in twenty twenty two, when the Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: made their playoff run, I was very superstitious, to the
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  Speaker 2: point where I would not watch Jaguars games because the
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  Speaker 2: last Jaguars game that I watched was the Lions game
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  Speaker 2: where Trevor Lawrence got folder in half and almost busted
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  Speaker 2: his ankle. So I wouldn't watch games after that, and
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  Speaker 2: they kept winning games, so I just didn't watch. It
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  Speaker 2: got to the point where against the Jets on Thursday
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  Speaker 2: Night football, I went to the gym instead of watching
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  Speaker 2: the game, and then they showed the game on TV
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  Speaker 2: in the gym and I was like, Hey, I can't
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  Speaker 2: do this'll y'all gotta turn it. Gotta turn it. Jags
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  Speaker 2: make the playoffs. Obviously, I decide, I think the demon
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  Speaker 2: has been exercised. I'm going to go to the Chargers game.
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  Speaker 2: First half of the game, down twenty seven to nothing,
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  Speaker 2: I'm seeing notifications on social media, leave the stadium, get
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  Speaker 2: out of your seat. Move. So I do, and I
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  Speaker 2: watched the comeback happen from the bud Light Zone. And
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  Speaker 2: now I'm convinced that like I cannot go to another game.
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  Speaker 2: I can't. That is that is absolute pinnacle. I will
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  Speaker 2: never be able to go. I did go with my
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  Speaker 2: girlfriend last year to the Panthers games. And they did win,
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  Speaker 2: which I found a new superstition that is, whatever my
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  Speaker 2: girlfriend watches, they win. Whenever they don't, they lose. So
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  Speaker 2: if you probably couldn't tell based on the way the
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars played this year, you watch that many games.
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  Speaker 4: I'm super like my my wife knows, Like say, she
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  Speaker 4: like gets up and goes to the kitchen and like
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  Speaker 4: the Bills score.
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  Speaker 1: She'll literally be like did the Bills score?
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like yeah, and she'll be like, are you
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  Speaker 4: gonna make me stay in the kitchen? And I'm like, yuh,
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  Speaker 4: kind of yeah. Like I've had those moments of like,
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  Speaker 4: especially in I'm a Red Sox fan. Also and in
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  Speaker 4: the two thousand and seven World Series run, I figured
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  Speaker 4: out in the ALCS that if I if I sat
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  Speaker 4: cross legged upright while the Red Sox pitched, laid down
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  Speaker 4: on my back with my knees up while they were
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  Speaker 4: at bad.
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  Speaker 1: Things started to turn.
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  Speaker 4: And I did that uncomfortably, so game after game, no
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  Speaker 4: matter how long an inning would last, my legs would
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  Speaker 4: be numb or like my butt would be asleep. It
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  Speaker 4: did not matter my lower bit, it didn't whatever pain
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  Speaker 4: I was in.
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  Speaker 1: You have to do it.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's what sports. I wasn't like that
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  Speaker 4: when I played. I wasn't like all I got to
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  Speaker 4: put my left sock on first. I had a routine
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  Speaker 4: of like how I got dressed on what I did.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know what happened all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 4: like it just clicked for me. And like watching I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: Like if they scored and I was sitting up, I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: I guess they sitting up, or like if things aren't
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  Speaker 4: going good, I'm like, I gotta get off the couch
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  Speaker 4: and sit down on the ground. So I always give
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  Speaker 4: the office line of like I'm not superstitious, but I
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  Speaker 4: am a little stitious.
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  Speaker 1: But I am, yeah, like superstitious.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, the first thought I was telling you offline,
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  Speaker 4: The first thought that came into my head is the
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  Speaker 4: bills were starting to Like I was like okay, because
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  Speaker 4: I was like, it's late on Sunday, gotta wrangle the guests.
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  Speaker 4: And usually I was, you know, telling you this offline
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  Speaker 4: as well, and folks in the chat, No, I have
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  Speaker 4: Matt Lane on from the Casey Sports Network, who is awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Matt and the whole team over there to do tremendous
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  Speaker 4: work covering the Chiefs, breaking down film x's and o's.
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  Speaker 4: They're great in the off season for draft stuff as well,
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  Speaker 4: and I usually have him on regularly as my Chiefs guests,
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  Speaker 4: regular season, postseason, all.
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  Speaker 1: That, and I was like, man, we've been cooking with JP.
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  Speaker 4: The conversation has been great, And I was like, but also, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I kind of they haven't lost when he's been on.
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  Speaker 4: So I feel like, if it's not broken, don't fix it.
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  Speaker 4: And Jp, here we are AFC Championship. You've rode with
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  Speaker 4: us here for the wildcard when the Bills beat the Broncos.
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  Speaker 4: You rode with us last week heading into the divisional
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  Speaker 4: round for the game that neither fan base cared too
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  Speaker 4: much about between Bills and Ravens. The Bills move past
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  Speaker 4: the Ravens. Here they sit AFC Championship, Bills Chiefs high
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  Speaker 4: level before we dive into the nitty gritty and all
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  Speaker 4: the details and the matchup specific elements. What do you
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  Speaker 4: what are your initial thoughts on this game you think.
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  Speaker 1: About of Bills Chiefs? Is it where they are right now?
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  Speaker 4: Is it the Chiefs look vulnerable but there's still the
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  Speaker 4: Chiefs And to be the man you gotta beat the
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  Speaker 4: man or are you fully feeling like you're riding with them?
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  Speaker 4: Or is it the Bills have been the better team
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  Speaker 4: they beat them earlier this year? Where's your head at
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  Speaker 4: high level on this game? But I feel like there's
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  Speaker 4: so many kind of like what we talked about with
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  Speaker 4: the Broncos game and the Ravens game the past couple weeks,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like there's all these many subplots and narratives,
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  Speaker 4: not necessarily in a false or bad way, that are
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  Speaker 4: attached to this game, obviously, but when you sit back
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  Speaker 4: ten thousand foot view think of this game high level,
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  Speaker 4: where's your head go to first?
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  Speaker 2: So you hit on something that I was kind of
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  Speaker 2: thinking about high level going into this game, which is
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  Speaker 2: every era of the sport football cyclical. So every era
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  Speaker 2: of the sport has had their version of Brady versus Manning,
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  Speaker 2: And not only Brady versus Manning, but Brady versus Roethlisberger,
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  Speaker 2: Brady versus Philip Rivers, Brady versus.
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  Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Brady versus everyone.
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  Speaker 2: It's just Brady versus everyone, because no matter how you
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  Speaker 2: played in the regular season, you still had to go
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  Speaker 2: to Foxboro in January. Yeah, and it feels like we're
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  Speaker 2: getting to the break then modern age Brady with Patrick Mahomes,
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  Speaker 2: and I was making this comparison with some of my
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  Speaker 2: friends I work with. It's kind of like Brady, but
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  Speaker 2: it's also you know, Charles Barkley would have rings if
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't for Michael Jordan, you know, like it took
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  Speaker 2: Jordan retiring for two years to keem get two. Sean Kimp,
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  Speaker 2: Gary Payton would have won rings with the Sonics if
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't for Michael Jordan. The best team in basketball
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  Speaker 2: during that time couldn't beat them. So high level, I
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  Speaker 2: just feel like this this is a really important game
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  Speaker 2: for both teams, just from the perspective of for the Chiefs,
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  Speaker 2: it is no matter how we look in the regular season,
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  Speaker 2: you still have to come in and beat us at
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  Speaker 2: our best. And for the Bills, it's kind the it's
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  Speaker 2: the culmination of everything, you know, everything that the Bills
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  Speaker 2: have tried to become this year and in previous years,
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  Speaker 2: morphing their offense to be I wrote about it earlier.
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  Speaker 2: This year, they're being a little more chief Sist, a
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  Speaker 2: little chiefs Sian in terms of how they approach the game.
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  Speaker 2: Everything that they have done and everything that has gone
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  Speaker 2: into the molding and development of Josh Allen has come
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  Speaker 2: to this moment where this is I'm not gonna say
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  Speaker 2: it's the most top and talented Bills team, but it
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  Speaker 2: has the most depth, it has the most complementary It
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  Speaker 2: is the best overall team the Bills have assembled against
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  Speaker 2: the weakest Chiefs team that we have seen assembled. But
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  Speaker 2: none of it matters because you still have to go
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  Speaker 2: in and beat them. So I'm super excited about this game.
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  Speaker 2: I actually think there's some really cool points to talk
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  Speaker 2: about in this game outside of the quarterbacks. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: really excited about You.
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  Speaker 1: Know, it's funny we you and I when did we?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: I forget when it was before I had Mina on.
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  Speaker 4: I think you and I spoke in May, maybe April
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  Speaker 4: May or something. It was after the draft, and we
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  Speaker 4: talked about kind of like what this Bills offense needed
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  Speaker 4: to do going for and we talked about league trends everything.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's where you first, I think at the
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  Speaker 4: time you talked about like the chiefsification of the Bills
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  Speaker 4: office is kind of what you like verbalize it as.
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  Speaker 4: And it's so funny, you know, to go from that
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  Speaker 4: point of that offseason to where we are now in
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  Speaker 4: that conversation and like what you what you just said,
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  Speaker 4: and the points I want to drill down on because
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  Speaker 4: I think they're so accurate, Like we were talking at
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  Speaker 4: that point, and I still think even now, like what
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  Speaker 4: does this Bills team look like on paper?
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  Speaker 1: And even now, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Not a roster where you're like, oh, look at that name,
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  Speaker 4: Oh look at that name. And it was going into
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  Speaker 4: the season and I remember on the episode you and
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  Speaker 4: I a lot of our conversation was talking about like
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  Speaker 4: Joe Brady scheme structure, and we're talking about condensed formations
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  Speaker 4: and what you can do to kind of mitigate it,
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  Speaker 4: like a weaker supporting cast and a weaker roster and
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  Speaker 4: how important the run would be.
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  Speaker 1: And all these things.
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  Speaker 4: And now here we are having this conversation talking about
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  Speaker 4: the supporting cast around Allen, and it's not just well
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  Speaker 4: Allen like dragged all these corpses to the AFC Championship.
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  Speaker 4: It is a quality supporting cast and it may not
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  Speaker 4: look that way individually on paper, but very much. And
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  Speaker 4: I remember when we talked about it, this was like
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  Speaker 4: a team, especially on offense, that was gonna be you know,
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  Speaker 4: the sum of the parts are great or the whole
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  Speaker 4: is greater than some of the parts type of deal.
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  Speaker 4: And they've really hit on that in every way, shape
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  Speaker 4: and form. And I think it's so funny to see
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  Speaker 4: how that conversation is turned from being man, is this
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  Speaker 4: the weakest team around Josh Allen in forever to it's
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  Speaker 4: the strongest or arguably the strongest, and then to juxtapose
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  Speaker 4: that with a chief squad that only they lost two games,
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  Speaker 4: but they really only lost one game and it was
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  Speaker 4: to the Bills.
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  Speaker 1: But we're sitting here in the eye.
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  Speaker 4: It's a conversation of like the weakest Chiefs team or
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  Speaker 4: how vulnerable they look, or how susceptible they look to
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  Speaker 4: being beaten. They're fifteen and one or sixteen in this
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  Speaker 4: but not really. So I feel like that the juxtaposition
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  Speaker 4: of those two conversations and the journey from the off
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  Speaker 4: season to now makes this conversation even more fun considering
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  Speaker 4: again the history between these two teams. But yeah, where
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  Speaker 4: they are and just how this season progressed for both
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  Speaker 4: of them kind of out of nowhere, but in different
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  Speaker 4: respects and perspectives.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I think it's a testament to
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  Speaker 2: both teams getting here and the testament of so. I
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  Speaker 2: am notable on social media for saying quarterbacks don't matter
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  Speaker 2: if you have just if you assemble a roster that
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  Speaker 2: is complementary and can build things around your quarterback to
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  Speaker 2: not have him be superman all the time, that's a
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  Speaker 2: really good thing to have. But I think what we're
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  Speaker 2: seeing with the Bills and the Chiefs is these quarterbacks matter,
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  Speaker 2: not only because they're very good obviously, but they are
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  Speaker 2: forced multipliers. They are they can they could be the
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  Speaker 2: point guard of an offense, but also get you a
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  Speaker 2: bucket when you need one.
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  Speaker 4: Like the Derek Rowse type of point guard where it's
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  Speaker 4: just like dude just takes over the game. You want
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  Speaker 4: to facilitate core, you need him to drive the lane
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  Speaker 4: and power dunk on everyone like you got it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's it's that kind of player that a lot
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  Speaker 2: of teams are missing at the position, and these are
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  Speaker 2: two of the premier guys at the spot. But something
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  Speaker 2: that I've really enjoyed is how both of these teams
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  Speaker 2: have grown and how they've morphed their offense to I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the Bills being this physical, big, big group that wants
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  Speaker 2: to mash you in the run game, whereas the Chiefs
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  Speaker 2: are a West Coast offense enthusiast like fever dream with
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  Speaker 2: all the crossing route send the motion and the leverage
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  Speaker 2: and all the quick ways they'll they'll use motion to
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  Speaker 2: design leverage for their guys who aren't exactly like dominant
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  Speaker 2: at one position. So it's fun to see how these
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  Speaker 2: two teams got here and how they're both so similar,
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  Speaker 2: but also where the paths diverge.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, it's such a good way to put it.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, the Chiefs kind of kind of going back
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  Speaker 4: to like the Andy Reid roots of things is super
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  Speaker 4: awesome to see, considering like who he is as a
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  Speaker 4: coach and where he's like where he kind of cut
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  Speaker 4: his teeth before becoming the head coach of the Eagles
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  Speaker 4: and then moving on a KC. And then yeah, the
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  Speaker 4: Bills won the Bills want, I think is super awesome
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  Speaker 4: just from I feel like I'm name dropping people on
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  Speaker 4: purpose and I'm not. But I remember, I think the
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  Speaker 4: first time I had Nate Tyson, it was like twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, and we're talking about the Bills need
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  Speaker 4: a pivot, and the pivot was the run game it's
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  Speaker 4: like they don't run the ball, and they neither run
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  Speaker 4: the balls, so on and so forth. And to see
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  Speaker 4: like when they really started to hit their heights in
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty and then going forward with Allen in the
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  Speaker 4: past game and it was like Diggs and Beasley and
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  Speaker 4: John Brown and the smaller type of receivers and everybody
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  Speaker 4: that work within that. To see how they went from
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  Speaker 4: that to falling in line with league trends and condensing
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  Speaker 4: and going kind of bigger and kind of heavier. And
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  Speaker 4: now you're coming into a playoff game. I think, well,
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  Speaker 4: I should have looked it up before, and I didn't
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  Speaker 4: think about it until now. I think that that first
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  Speaker 4: half against the Ravens, it was like eight pass attempts
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  Speaker 4: to twenty runs. Yeah, yeah, like it was, and it
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  Speaker 4: was I remember screenshotting it from the ESPN app and
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  Speaker 4: I was like, the Bills have embraced the quote unquote
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  Speaker 4: like playoff football. And to see where they are and
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  Speaker 4: it's like it's not runs where it's you know, a
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  Speaker 4: ton of like read option or more of like the
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  Speaker 4: finesse type of runs. It's like, here comes duo seventy
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  Speaker 4: five times and we're gonna mash you and grind you
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  Speaker 4: into a pulp, and then we'll.
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  Speaker 1: Work in some mid zone. But we can work in some.
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  Speaker 4: Cool counter stuff or sprinkle in some power, or we'll
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  Speaker 4: do the tackle pull stuff, and then we can do
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  Speaker 4: it from condensed with you know, twelve or twenty one
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  Speaker 4: or twenty two, or we can do it out of
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  Speaker 4: eleven with Mac Collins and Keyan Coleman and even Shakir
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  Speaker 4: who can block, or we can put in Regie Gillian
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  Speaker 4: whatever we want to do, or you.
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  Speaker 1: Can spread just still be a bully. You can go
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  Speaker 1: spread to run.
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  Speaker 4: And then you're still doing that and everything is just
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: like an at you type of offense.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: They're mashing you. And to see that evolution.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: From this like spread them out, super spread kind of
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: aerial attack to and again this isn't like to.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Be like, oh, what have they figured out?
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: They figured out what the rest of the league figured
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: out with like teams like the Lions and the Rams
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: and the Chiefs of you know and forty nine ers
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: and condensing and how you operate and you win with
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: personnel informational advantages.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: But to just see that evolution.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: And considering where they are now and yeah, like you
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: beat a Ravens team that you know, you and I
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: talked about it.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: They were mirrors of.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: One another, and granted they had different dials and levers
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: turned up in different perspectives. But you outmashed a team
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: that prides itself on outmashing every opponent they face, like
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: that is their mo. And you did that in a
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: cold game with snow and flurries and wind and all
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: that stuff like and knowing that they can do that.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: But then the quarterback is Josh Allen, so like you're
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: just keeping that No I can, I'm chilling.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I'm chilling.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: And then to suit like if somebody like punches Krilling
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: in the face, bang, he's flipping suit.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: He can flip Super Saiyan in an instant.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: It just makes like their whole evolution and how it's
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: all come together really fun to like track when you
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: started from the past, like three four or five years
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: type of deal.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: It's where a lot of teams and I'm not just
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: like name dropping teams to you know, like rag on them,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: but it's teams like the Dolphins. That's what they're missing.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: They are missing that level of physicality that the Bills
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: have added. They're missing that ability to punch somebody in
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: the mouth and cold weather football games. Yep. And I'm
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: not saying like it's the stereotype of South Florida teams
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: or Florida teams can't handle weather. It's not that it's
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: that that team is not built yep for January football.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: The Bills have built this offense, starting with the offensive
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: line development. They have built that team for January football games.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: And just like the Chiefs who have morphed their defense
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: and morphed the ability to do different things and pull
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: different levers in the offense, these are two teams that
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: are very clearly built to get to this point. And
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: now that we're here, it's like it feels like the
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: proper culmination.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: He It really does. And I've always felt like you
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: have to.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Not necessarily, but I feel like certain things have to
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: align for you to kind of get like Peyton Manning
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: like had to get through Brady and the paths to get.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: The Colts to the Super Bowl.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: And even if he didn't, you wouldn't have felt the
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: same unless they beat that team. And I've just kind
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: of felt like with the Bills got to get to
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: the super Bowl, this iteration of the Bills, you gotta
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: get through KSE. And also I think doing it in
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: KSE just also makes more sense. Like the scene of
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: thirteen Seconds and where everything started the AC Championship several
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: years ago. It's just like go into the dragon's house,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: slay the dragon at their place, you know, Kirk Cousins style,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: walk into your trap, take over your trap type of deal.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: And I still love that him saying that will never
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: not be like what like the top five things I've
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: ever heard and oppressed or ever just the way he
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: says that. Yeah, I had a teammate you used to say,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: you know, walk into your trap, take over your trap,
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: And I was like, did.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: You just putting Kirk Cousins in Atlanta is the NFL's
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: greatest scripting bro Like that if the NFL is scripted
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: because they put Kirk Cousins in Atlanta, that is exactly
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: what they needed.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: The only thing would have been better is if he
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: like this was all backed up and like he was
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: in Atlanta with like Prime like outcast and like Dungeon Family,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: when Atlanta rap was like crazy good Atlanta rap, and
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: I would just want to see, like it's just the
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: thugification of Kirk Thuggins would have just been so much better.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: I need I need Kirk Cousins to be in a
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Little Baby music video. Yeah, that's exactly what I that's
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: exactly what I'm hearing. I need him to be in
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: a Young Thug music video. Well, probably not right now,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: because Young Thug got like some cases, but yeah, I
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: mean it could be that'd probably given it could work.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: I didn't show up as a character witness for Young Thug,
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: just full circle on trial. Yeah, and I just feel
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: like it made I forgot how we got it. Oh yeah,
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: I just feel like you it makes sense like that
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: certain things aligned for the storybook type of deal, and
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: so you got the chiefs another opportunity to exercise the demons.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: You do it in Casey.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: But obviously all the actual x's and o's and the
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: non emotional narratives make this game so much better aside
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: from just all these two awesome quarterbacks and so on
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: and so forth. And that is what we will be
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: diving into in this episode for folks who are unfamiliar
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: or unaware what we're going to do now in the
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: meat of this episode, the crux of this episode, myself
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: and JP or each way to give our top three
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: matchups that we think will decide Bill's versus Chiefs this
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Sunday in the AFC Championship. He doesn't know my answers,
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know his. And they could be anything. They
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: could be very wide scale and overarching. They could be small,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: detailed niche pieces like a specific player against another player,
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: or a specific coaching element. Anything and everything is available
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: and on the table to be talked about. If you
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: were joining us live on this episode, that is tremendously awesome.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Please let us know what your thoughts are, what you
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: think the top matchups will be. What you think of
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: our matchups, if you think they're terrible, if you think
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: they're awesome, Question thoughts, comments, concerns.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I will bring up from the live chat as much
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: as possible.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Super chats obviously get a priority, because one, I respect
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: the monetary donation. Two, I also see the color that
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: attracts my eyes and bring those up accordingly. And as
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: soon as I said that. Carl, who's been crushing it
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: with super chests last several weeks, Carl, thank you very
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: much for being here once again and for the super
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: chat once again. Carl says, we have seen Fred Flint's
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: stone in the beach surfer dude. The big question is
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: how will Mac Collins walk into Arrowhead Stadium? Maybe as
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Ozzy Osbourne. You know this has kind of been like
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Mac Collins just becoming this like Bill's folklore legend this season,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: starting in training camp and going all the way through.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: I do wonder, yeah, like what kind of the fun
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: little antics of like before the game, like how does
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: he walk into the stadium?
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: What do we see him do? What is he dressed as?
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: How barefoot is he? Is he rocking? Just like a
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: pair of shorts and no shirt.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: He's become like, yeah, like a fan favorite in a
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: quick hurry, in a quick minute.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I ain't him to pronounce some durs socks. I'm sorry.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: He don't give me anxiety. Man, and someone who has
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: asthma who cannot be in cold weather very much or
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: they will get sick. Please put some socks on.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: You don't get sick out there.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Please, Mac. You're you're killing JP.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: You are you're killing me. You're killing me, man. Every
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: time I'm like, I respect the flood fencetone and I
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: respect the surfers, the zoobas short, I get it, I
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: get it, but please put on some socks you don't
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: even got, don't even put on socks. Put on some
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: slides or something.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just flip flops on your feet.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Put something on your feet.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: You don't know. You don't know what, David, but you're
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: doing to be please.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I sound like my mama. She put put some shoes on.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: When you go outside, pretty think this is some shoes,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: some damn shoes on.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: You gotta give a JPR attack. I like that. Thank
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: you very much, Carl. That's a that's a very good comment.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I appreciate the super.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Chat JP your old hat at this as of this point,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: because again I tell myself every time, and I tell
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: myself to tell myself every time I forget what appearance
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: it is for you. It's another continuation in your record
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: setting obviously three straight, but your old hat at this process.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: You are a first. The stage is yours. Feel free
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: to lead off with whatever matchup piece you choose.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna start with the obvious here. I'm gonna
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: start with two guys on the Chiefs offense that have
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: really kind of stood out since the last game they've
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: played against each other, and it's Xavier Worthy in Travis
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Kelce and I think the Xavier worthyness of the offense
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: has kind of been the thing that's kind of peaked
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: my interest a little bit. So the last time the
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Chiefs played the Bills in Week eleven, Xavier Worthy had
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: twenty five routes run and had five targets. Since then,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: he has had games of thirty five routes run, thirty six,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: twenty seven, twenty nine, thirty two. He's seen eleven targets
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: in a game. His role and his growth in the
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: offense has gotten to the point where he is a
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: key cog. And we talked a little earlier, a little
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: bit earlier about how the Chiefs offense is just this
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: super hyper West Coast offense. He is the speed element,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: but it's not a speed element in the way that
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: you would think. It is not just speed down the field,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: because that's what Hollywood Brown is for. It is speed
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: across the field. It is crossing routes, it's the it's
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: the RPOs, it's the runs that are just tagged with
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: the bubble that Patrick mahomes and just read for leverage.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: There was some really cool stuff they pulled out against
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: the Texans that I thought would almost work. There was
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: on the first drive. This one was the Hollywood Brown,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: but the the little out in the red zone. Yeah,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: heard down. That was really cool with Hollywood Brown out
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: of a out of a stack alignment. There was one
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: where they motioned Xavier Worthy into the backfield and motioned
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: them out where you think, like most teams run a
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: choice route, but it's an out and up and Xavier
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Worthy makes a great catch, one of the greatest catches
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: he is.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: It was nice.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a back shoulder. He's fighting through contact,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: which for him at like one hundred and sixty pounds
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: is something he doesn't really do.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: So No, it was a nice hands catch too, like
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: where he made it and also didn't I think wasn't
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: like two plays later? Was isn't that when like Will
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Anderson dragged him down by his car?
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Will Anderson kind of kind of big broad him.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: All right, puns over here. But Xavier Worthy has such
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: a unique role in this offense where his threat of
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: speed is a problem. It's any it is. It's not
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill obviously, but anytime he touches the ball, you
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: think that he could take it for a touchdown. It's
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: the jet motion, it's the fakes to Xavier Worry. That
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: was a really cool play that I thought that they
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: would come back to, and they did, but I think
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Worthy dropped it. It was this return motion into an
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: RPO where they would have him run in motion and
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: then return come back out the same way that he
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: did on like a little bubble screen, and he dropped it.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: But you can see the leverage and just the threat
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: of oh my god, this guy's going to coverage, this
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: guy's going in motion. Everybody flicked, like everybody go. And
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: how this works with Travis Kelcey and Concert is that
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: threat of speed pulling you away, and that speed pulling
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: you out of your zone horizontally allows for Travis kelce
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: to kind of just I don't I don't say Travis
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: kelce runs routes. He kind of just vibes just like
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: es freelances. He is the best. He's one of the
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: best tight ends I've ever seen, but also one of
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: the most frustrating receivers I've ever seen, because you don't
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: know what route he's running. He just kind of just
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: runs towards gaps.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: And just like shits in space, like he's like this
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: feels good, and he just sits and he's wide open.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: By and it's just like running to gaps. It's what
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: he does. Like the best way I can describe it
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: is where you think the hole in the zone is
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: going to be, where Travis Kelsey's going to sit. He's
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: going to go to the place that you just left
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: to go cover the hole that you think is there.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Like he's gotten to the point where he's not just
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: out athleting people people, he's just finding those voids and
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: those holes and zones. And I think for the Bill's defense,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: especially if Taron Johnson, who got banged up during the game,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: if Taron Johnson can go, it's it adds very much
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: that defense. But just how they handle the motion and
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: all of the the Chiefs are really good at throwing
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the jab. They're just gonna they're gonna jab you. They're
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: gonna jab you. They're gonna keep they're gonna keep kitting you.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Little light little light taps. Make sure you're still focusing
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: on the bubble screen, on the crossing routes, on the
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: little Travis Kelcey just kind of vibe over the middle
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: of the ball, and then that's when you're gonna get
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: like the downfield to shot the Hollywood Brown that should
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: have been caught where he just outruns both people in
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: quarters and Mahomes puts it right there until they just
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: kind of lull you to sleep. It's I saw that
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: we didn't have an anime reference. Yep, it's the It's
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: the Dempsey Roll no EPO where he's just gonna he's
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: gonna weave. He's gonna weave, and you think, like, what
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: is he doing and then bam, he's hitting you with
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: this right hook. As soon as you think that they
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: don't have it. As soon as you think they're go,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: they're just gonna keep peppering you with motion, keep testing you.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: And that's what they do so well. They test your
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: rules and communication. And there were so many times where
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: the Texans were like, oh shoot yeah, especially in the
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: middle of the field, they were like, oh no, all
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: this motion, I gotta run this way. And then Travis
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Kelsey's is like, okay, like I'm just gonna run right
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: where you left. So it's really Kelsey and Worthy that
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: kind of stir this drink.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: As soon as you mentioned when we were talking about
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: the high level pieces, and you talked about kind of
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: like the West Coast aspect of like read and doing
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: everything to like out leverage defenders and defenses. The first
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: thing that came into my mind was all the horizontal
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: horizontal Oh man, we're still early on, and that's a
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: huge flub horizontal leverage that they were creating for Xavier Worthy,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: just with all the little motions and quick little picks
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: and rubs and all the things.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Like him being used in the.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: High underneath to low intermediate areas of the field. And
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: I feel like that's opened up the offense a little
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: bit and obviously increased his uses. So much of it
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: early on this year was them trying to get in
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: the ball downfield and using him to stretch the field vertically,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: but also generating opportunities like he there's at least five
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: or six to come to my mind where he's wide
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: open downfield and Mahomes either misses him or there's a
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: couple where like Worthy catches it but he doesn't get
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: his feet down. Some of them were kind of like nonchalant.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: You'd be like, dude, how did you not get your
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: second foot down?
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Did you not know where you were?
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: And it was really looking like, oh, this wasn't a
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: great pick for Kansas City, Like guy's not really showing
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: a lot of refinement or wherewithal for a wide receiver,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: and yeah, they just tweaked that usage and leaned into
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: him more. And I just think getting him the ball
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: in these like quick hitting scenarios, not necessarily just like
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: tunnel screens or like the smoke screen stuff or anything
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: like that, but getting him these quick little arrow routes
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: and these flat routes where it's the catch and speed
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: and get up field and that burst hits immediately.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: And you know.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: You talked about that nice little back shoulder athletic catch
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: against Houston. If he starts to work that in a
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: little bit more man like, I just and it's funny
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: that he's starting to come on now because I know
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: it's still in the forefront of everything, like Bills fans
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: mind like the trade and can't believe, you know, we
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: let Kansas City get Zavior Worthy yadayadas on it so
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: for like he and Kean Coleman will be forever forever, Yes, forever,
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: linked forever. And it's just funny too, of course, like
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Worthy starting to come on a little bit just in
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: time for this game, and even he had a good
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: first matchup against the Bills in week eleven and then
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: I think it was like four catches on the first driver,
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: first two drives, and then they didn't go back to
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: him for the rest of the game. He was cooking,
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: he was finding space. His speed was a problem. We've
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: seen what I mean, Troy Franklin is running through quarters
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: against the Bills for Denver like Worthy's got that speed,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: and then some like you can really get on the
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: heels of Rap and Hammond. We'll see if Rap plays
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: in this game. But yeah, just how they've been able
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: to incorporate him more. And then you put that in
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: conjunction with Travis Kelce DeAndre Hopkins. You're starting to work
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: in Hollywood Brown. You have the run game pieces, You've
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: got the other tight ends and supporting cast pieces. Like,
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: it's funny how just that little tweak has made all
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: the puzzle pieces fit a little better and has made
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: them that much more difficult to defend down the stretch.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: And really, as they've turned it up on offense for
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: the last like six seven weeks.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think even in the run game that Worthy
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: motion causes so much problems. There are a couple reps
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: of what I believe was same side split zone out
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: of gun by the Chiefs, which is diabolical by the way,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Like you think of a split zone run and it's
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: the tight end cutting back across as the running back
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: goes this way. But no, it is the running back
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: is here and the tight end is here, and they're
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: both going the same way. And Henry Tote I feel
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: so bad for him because he just was so lost.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: There was a play, same side, split zone. Xavier Worthy
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: goes in jet motion. He bumps out, same side split
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: zone happens, Kareem Hunt winds it back towards him. He
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: cuts back in. Then he then Kareem Hunt jumps out.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: He jumps out. Yes, he's just going back and forth,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: back and forth, and then he finds himself on the
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: wrong side of Tray Smith and Kareem Hunt runs for
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: eleven yards. And it's just that kind of stuff where
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs motion to they use motion to gain leverage
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: and motion for picks and rubs. They're not using motion
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: to get speed. They're using it to get an advantage in angles.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Offense is a lot about angles and geometry. If you
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: have the angle on somebody, you'll probably win in an
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: offensive matchup. So I think for the Bills, defense. It
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: is communication there. They're communications that be stressed a lot
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: in this specific game.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: And we've seen I mean, you and I talked about
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: it going into the similar.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I could say this so much because you've been on
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: so much this season.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Going into that Bill's Rams game, we talked about leverage
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: and especially the horizontal leverage stuff outside the numbers and
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: in a similar aspect and using motion to create that
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: and to create this egy advantageous almost kind of like
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: easy button or automatic like layup for Stafford and how
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: he's able to see the field Mahomes can operate.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't even say to that.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Mahomes is obviously Mahomes, but when Matt Stafford is on
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: man like, the ultra instinct level of Matt Stafford is
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: just crazy.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: How he sees the field and what he can do
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: is nuts.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: So I don't want to say that Mahomes is that
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: or Stafford is Mahomes, but you get a similar aspect,
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: and we've seen the Bills struggle with offenses like that.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: You know, Miami usually does it in the run game,
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: but can do it in the past. The Rams did
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: it more from a pass perspective, but also did in
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: the run. These teams that will use motion to put
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: the bill second level in hell and then and similar
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: you're trying to figure out, okay, do we bump with
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: this motion?
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: And then the teams that get really diebocle with it.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Miami is great at this from a run game perspective.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: They'll use that motion and it's almost like as soon
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: as to a sees the second level react like and
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: they move this way, he's snapping the ball, and then
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: the run's going the other way, like they time it
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: so as soon as you step right now, they've created
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: that extra half a step for their linemen to climb
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: to the second level and be in better position to
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: steal you off.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: And you nailed it.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Like from the angle's perspective, I feel like I say
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: it so many times aroound the season, like football is
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: all about numbers, angles and space and it all comes
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: down yeah, like geometry and math and algebra and all
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: that kind of stuff, and it's just if we've got
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: six in the box, how.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Many do we have out?
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, the the good example, the touchdown to uh
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Terry McLaurin the Longhouse Calf that made it seventeen fourteen
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: that's purely just numbers. Jane Daniels looks outside of that
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: RPO and is like, there's one guy out there for
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: like three dudes, So I'm just gonna throw to where
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: the numbers are.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Like, that's it.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: And sometimes it's clearly about just numbers. Sometimes it's about
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: the angles. Sometimes it's about the space. In that instance,
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: it was the numbers end the space. We're going to
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: the wide side of the field and there's only the
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: and we have the numbers advantage. All I'm just spitting
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: it out there real quick and we'll see what we
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: can get. And the Chiefs have always been adept at
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: kind of manipulating that aspect. And again, I think it
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: ties in funny the Bills defense because when they get attacked,
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: it's usually from a leverage perspective in the run game
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: or in the past game.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: You see them out of position or.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: Just they'll read it right, or they have a good coverage,
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: but because they're a half step inside, they're not able
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: to get over the top, or they go underneath.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Instead of going over the top, and then somebody's open.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: And when you've got guys like Worthy and Hollywood Brown
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: with that kind of speed and then the opportunity to
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: react or over commit to that speed and Travis Kelcey
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: to just do his vibe stuff and find space.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just unreal.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: He I was watching something I think this past offseason
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: he was It might have been the tight End University
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: thing and he was talking about and he was giving
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: examples like breaking down with the clicker on on the
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: projector on film when he was talking about it's not
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: enough just to know coverage tendencies for defenses. You have
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: to know how they like to use certain coverages, like okay,
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: so they a cover two team, is it an actual
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Cover two or is it more of a Tampa two?
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: How do they spin to it? What is there? You
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: know the pole runner like to do?
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: How deep does he like to get talking about all
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: the intricacies and nuances and seeing him and just how
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: vibey he is on the field. I really think it's
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: because he sees everything at such a high level and
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: he studies so much film that it looks like he
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: feel like he just knows where dudes are going to be,
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: and so it's very just like la la la, Okay,
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: let me sit, and it's it's always like he's moving
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: at like a quarter speed and it's like he's getting opened.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: But he's moving like half speed. It's so annoying sometimes
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: because it's like, how do you how do you miss
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: a guy that's six ' five and moves at like
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: half speed like a YouTube video. But I think you
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: hit it on the head. It is he played quarterback
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: at Cincinnati before moving a tight end. He sees the
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: game like a quarterback. It's not only how they like
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: to get to Tampa too, it is who they're putting
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: as the bole runner. It's who is in this hook
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: the curl area, which is what they hammered against the Texans.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: They just hammered Aziz al Shair with a little under route,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: a little shallow and then Travis Kelce going right behind him,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: and it's you better pick one. And most of the time,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: if he's he's gonna bite the cheese on the shallow,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey is gonna be open. So I think a
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: lot of it. I think this game is gonna come
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: down to how comfortable the Bills are in man against them.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: I know the Bills played a lot of ard mirror,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: which I think will be pulled out against the Chiefs,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: But how comfortable you are in man coverage against this
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Chiefs team, where like I don't think they're great against
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: man coverage, but I also don't think you can sleep
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: on the man coverage because this is where DeAndre Hopkins
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: comes in. He only ran like eighteen routes against the
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Bills last time because he was like four weeks in,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: but his play has start to constantly come up. It
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: is now. It's the exavier worthiness of it all, with
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: the kind of the underneath stuff that he can do
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: with his speed. It's the Hollywood Brown downfield. It's not
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: an offense that is super explosive, but it has layers
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: and just like how I say with the Bills offense,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: the Bill's passing game is more explosive than the Chiefs,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: but they have they have more layers. There are more
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: layers to this team than how normal offenses are run.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: They have guys who win deep, they have guys who
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: can separate. They have Travis Kelce who kind of just
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: does what he does. So I think for the Bills,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: it's communication and if you can win a man coverage.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: It always funny with like the Bills and the man
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: coverage piece, I'm always wondering, like how much do they
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: uptick in it? And Kansas City is always like a
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: fun one because my theory every not theory, but like
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: my coaching point every time of facing Kansas City is like,
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: just beat the hell out of Travis Kelce, press him,
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: jam them, beat the hell out of them, and hopefully
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: by the fourth quarter he kind of wears down. And
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: I feel like that still applies to him, maybe even.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: More so now.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: But also even these chiefs receivers, like beat the hell
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: out of Worthy, beat the hell out of Brown. Hopkins
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: would probably invite that, Like if you want to press
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: hop and fight hop He's very willing to be like, okay, cool,
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: like let's fight because he's physical. He'll kind of play
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: that game. And I do wonder, yeah, how much man
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: they play. And then pairing that with press, because we
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: saw them getting into some press against Denver, we saw
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: them get into some press against Baltimore, We saw them
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: work in varieties.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Of folks watching JP's fixes h stuff.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: Got some technical issues there, focusing on aspects of kind
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: of locking one side of the field with man, incorporating
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: some press a little bit, some pieces that I think
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: could apply to this game. Oh, I see Mac is
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: getting so Max says, you guys are awesome, but it's
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: time to take down the Christmas tree.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: So as some folks in the chat that you know.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so the big tree stays up pretty much for November, December.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: And January.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: The little tree stays up all year round once and
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: as Sarah says in the chat, right now, he decorates
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: in different ways. Yes, so this is just a little
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: gold and silver tree, just because you know January New Year.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Once the big tree goes down, the little tree goes
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: over there, and then I decorate it with garland and
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: themes that represent whatever holiday we are currently. And so
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: for February it'll be hearts and red stuff for Valentine's Day,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: green will be Saint Patrick's Day. April is pastels and
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: eggs for Easter, all of those things. See now Mac
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: gets he says, I changed my My trees are also there.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: You go.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: See, good job chat. I appreciate everyone in the chat.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: This is fair for mar J says the big tree
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: needs to stay up as long as the bill's keep winning. Absolutely,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: there is nothing behind me that will change as long
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: as things I don't even want to say the words
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: because I'm scared of it. There is nothing behind me
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: that will change as long as we continue down this path.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: And I like where Sarah's head is at, she says,
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: I personally like the easter tree, soft, pretty colors.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: I think that's the right way to go. All right.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: So JP is fixing some things on his end. I
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: am going to power on while he fixes those things.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Actually kind of drop him down at this point while
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: he fixes those things. So let us, oh man, I
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: do this every week, whether with a guest, whether with not.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna start with this one.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: So I've talked a bunch of this year on social
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: actually even the past couple of weeks, and talking about
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen's ability to mitigate pressure turning into sex. He
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: was the best quarterback in that regard this year. But
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: this overall theme of how that ties into my first
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: point here of which defense can pressure and get home
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: versus the opposing quarterback.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: So some numbers real quick.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen, out of forty four qualifying quarterbacks in the
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: regular season, he had the lowest percentage of pressures converted
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: to sacks at eight percent. Pat Mahomes was twenty ninth
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: out of the forty four qbs twenty ninth in good way.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: You want to be lower at seventeen percent, but that's
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: seventeen percent for Mahomes. That was his highest pressure converted
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: to sack percentage of his entire career. His previous high
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: was twelve percent in twenty twenty one. Aside from that
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty one season, he hasn't had a pressure to
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: sack percentage higher than eleven point.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Five year in and year out.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: He is one of the best, if not the best,
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: at now not allowing pressures being converted to sacks. And
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: even if you don't know about the numbers, Oh, I
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: gotta stop because we got a super chat. Thank you
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: very much for being here, Jason. Thank you very much
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: for the super chat as well. Jason says had to
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: donate to remind everyone to never disrespect the Christmas tree.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: It's not just a Christmas tree. It is a tree
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: of life and Ant's wife puts work into it. Don't
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: disrespect life or Ant's wife.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Please.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Jason. I'm also gonna be a clap.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for that.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: Thank you very much for being here again regularly as
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: you are, and for the super Chat, and for defending
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: the tree and the effort that my wife puts into
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: it and decorating it and the background.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: So I appreciate you very much for this. This is fantastic. Yeah, Dan,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I know you just joined JPI technical difficulty.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: He's fixing the back. He will be back shortly, but
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: I'm powering on in his stet.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Ah.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: That was very good, Jason. I appreciate you for that.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: So continuing with those pieces.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: So Mahomes regularly, year in and year out, is one
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: of the best, if not the best, at not allowing
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: pressures be converted to sex. And even if you don't
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: know the numbers, just think about it with your eyes.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: How many games have you seen it with the Chiefs
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: where somebody gets in Mahomes gets pressured, he escapes, he
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: makes some throw under pressure, or he does his little
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: duck walk and gets the first down, extends the ball,
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: or acts like he's gonna go out of bounds and
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: keeps going forward. We've seen him time and time again
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: kill teams with his ability to evade and not allow
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: pressure to turn into sacks consistently, and that aspect of
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: his game has been huge. Allen has been tremendous in
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: that way as well, but usually Mahomes best him by
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: two to three, you know, four percentage points close. This
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: is the first year where Allan has trumped him, and
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: again by a significant margin. Allen again lowess in the
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: league at pressures converted to sacks at eight percent. Mahomes
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: more than double that at seventeen percent. But if we
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: go further and talk about again this aspect of defenses
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: pressuring the QB and whether or not they're able to
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: get home.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Let's bring him back to the stage. What do we got.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I think it's working now, Sorry about that. You're good.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: My podcast set up, the battery died, so I was
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: scrambling a little bit.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: No, you're good.
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: I heard the click and I saw it go out,
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, And then as soon as
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: the camera went town, I was like, he's got fixed up.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: We're all good. You're all good. We're in a good spot.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: So kind of recap fill you in my first point
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: that I'm leading off with here, which defense can pressure
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: the QB and get home.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: So kind of fill you and recap some quick pieces. Alan.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: We talked about the past couple weeks out of forty
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: four qualifying qbs in the regular season, lowest percentage of
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: pressures converted to sacks at eight percent, Mahomes twenty ninth
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: out of the forty four in a good way. Lower
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: is better, but he was at seventeen percent pressures converted
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: to sacks. That's his highest pressure converted to sack percentage
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: of his entire career. His previous high was twelve percent
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: in twenty twenty one. Aside from that season, he hasn't
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: had a pressure to sack percentage of higher than eleven
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: point five percent.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: He's usually the.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: One that gets in Allen's way of being the king
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: of that metric year and a year out of Tuesday Mahomes,
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: but Alan bested him significantly this year, continuing that conversation
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: in terms of pressure getting home scrambles. Overall, Josh Allen
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: seventh in scrambles with forty one. Patrick Mahomes was thirteenth
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: with thirty six epa per scramble. Patrick Mahomes was first.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: We talked about this last week first zero point eighty five,
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: which is unreal, almost a full point added per scramble,
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: which is nuts. Josh Allen was third at zero point
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: sixty nine, So Allen really good numbers.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Mahomes just out of.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: This world scrambling success rate. Pat Mahomes second at seventy
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: five percent, Josh Allen first seventy five point six percent
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: scrambling EPA. Mahomes was second at thirty point five eight.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: Allen was third at twenty eight point four to one.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: Also for reference, Jaden Daniels was first at forty six point.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Two to three.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Still ridiculous, grandediado he had way more attempts he was
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: in like the seventies. He led in scrambles, which makes
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: sense given his game. And then another little piece, big
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: time throws under pressure. For those who don't know, a
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: big time throw is a pass with excellent ball location
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: and timing, generally thrown further down the field and or
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: into a tighter window.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: This is per PFF. This is one of their metrics.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: I really like.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: Alan is first in big time throws under pressure with seventeen,
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: Mahomes tied for eighth with ten. If we look at
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: it from a percentage standpoint, Alan is first in big
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: time throw percentage under pressure at eleven point one. Mahomes
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: is tied for seventeenth at five point six. So more
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: than double the aspect of these two quarterbacks that we
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: are going to see and we see it all the time.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Mahomes gets pressured, do you get him down? Does I
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: mean what he did to Houston?
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: Right after he flops on the sideline The very next play,
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: he's getting brought down and he throws it off and
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: somehow is HEAs al Shaier loses Travis Kelce and then
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: Kelsey's wide out because again Kelsey's vibes and he.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Finds the space because he always does. But that ability right.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: There, Mahomes to shake someone, do his little duck walk,
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: scramble for a first down, or make a ridiculous throw.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: Alan doing similar things stiff arming defensive tackles, shaking defensive
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: linemen in a variety of ways, in a variety of styles.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Both of these qbs.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: Are hard to pressure, but even more so once you
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: pressure them, it's very hard historically to get either of
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: them down, even more so this year with the numbers
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: he's putting up. And so that's my first piece here.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: Can you pressure these qbs and if you do, can
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: you get them down? Part of the reason why the
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: bill started using that odd mirror package. They first rolled
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: it out a couple of years ago against Kansas City
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: and They've used it against other teams. They used it
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: against Baltimore a bit last weekend. They used it on
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: the first third down of the game against Baltimore and
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: Lamar broke it like Milana went to close on Lamar
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: and Lamar was just like Skirt and went out the
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: back door and scrambled for the first But they use
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: that against Mahomes to get him off the spot and
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: then close down on him with that aggressive spot. He's
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: the guy that they really They didn't invent it. Georgia
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: was already doing it, but they he was the one
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: that they first started implementing it because of Because of
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: him killing them year in and year out with scrambles,
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: they couldn't maintain rush lane integrity, They couldn't collapse the pocket.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: So I think so much of this game ties into
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: that piece of can you pressure the qbs and if
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: you do pressure them.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Can you get home?
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: And if you don't, how much do they kill you?
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: Is it with their legs eggs, isn't with their arm
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: because Allen will do both. Mahomes is more with the legs.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: Allen staff the target is like fourteen under pressure, Mahomes
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: is ten.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Still decent for Mahomes.
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: But yeah, these two can cut you in a variety
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: of ways of scrambling when they're under pressure.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: And I think the biggest thing for the Chiefs is
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: how they can get pressure now that Charles Amenieu is back.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: And I think Charles amenni who being back, he didn't
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: play against the Bills in the regular season. He came
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: back around like week thirteen, week fourteen. I think with
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Charles amennie Who being back, the pressure stuff makes a
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: whole lot more sense because it allows for Spags to
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: play Chris Jones iso ball, and that is where you
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: don't want to be if you're the Bills offense. You
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: don't want to give Spags and the Chiefs a way
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: to isolate Chris Jones on your weakest pass protector. We
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: all saw what he did to Blake Fisher, who was
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: a rookie right tackle. That's not a spot where you
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: want to be at. That is again we make the NBA.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: That's like putting like, oh gosh, I don't want to
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: slander anybody's name here, but that's like the Miami heat,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: like the Lebron dunk on Jason Terry in Boston like that,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: you're setting him up for that, and that's what the
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Chiefs can do now with Charles the Miniu back, they
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: can get into more overload fronts like the Texans do.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: But instead of the Texans doing that to free up
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: their edge rushers and Will Anderson Junior at the deal hunter,
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs are doing it for a three hundred and
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: fifteen pound defensive tackle who moves like somebody thirty pounds
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: forty pounds later. And I think with O many you
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: being back, George Carloft is playing really well. They can
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: design so many different things and that's something that hurt
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: the Bills in last year's playoffs, where some of the
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: designs were able to get Chris Jones free. But when
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: you look at what the Chiefs are this year, they
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: allow a point three to seven EPA on scrambles, which
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: is twelfth in the NFL. Like it's not bad, but
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: it's zero point three seven. It's not like this is
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: like incredible levels. Yeah. So I think a large part
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: of that is how much man coverage they'll play on
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: those downs. But I wonder how much man coverage they'll
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: play in this game. With Josh Allen deciding against man coverage,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: he's just gonna scramble and throw it a mile. Yeah.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: So I wonder how much man coverage they'll play, especially
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: because you know what they'll do is they had a
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: crazy rep against Houston where they're in a low red
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: zone third down and they show up Blitz with the
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: same but they spin it in the one double on
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Nico Collins where they just run the safety right into
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: that low, low hole where all the Nico Collins slants
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: and over route and in breakers like we know what
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: you're gonna do. Yeah, and then put McDuffie on Xavier Hutchinson.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: So I wonder if you get a little bit of
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: And I think where the Chiefs sort of differ from
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: the Ravens is I don't think they have a Brandon Stevens.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think they have that portion of their defense
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: where they have all these good players but one noticeably
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: bad one. They have a bunch of quality corners, especially
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: now with Jalen Watson being.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: I would say that first game he was out, it
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: was Nazi Johnson and that first one and that was
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: a difference significantly.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now Jayla Watson gives him a lot more size
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: at corner and allows McDuffie to play a little bit
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: more chess piece. You might see him a Khalis Shakir
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: a lot. So how they blitz without getting, how they
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: pressure without blitzing is going to be the big thing.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: And if you can keep the Chiefs from playing iso
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: ball with Chris Jones, because as well as the Bills
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: interior offensive line is played, that is not a matchup
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: you want. That's not something you want to go into
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: the game like, Okay, we're fine leaving Chris Jones one
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: on one because he is going to dominate the game
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: from that perspective, and we have seen him dominate Bills
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: games before by just isoing, And I as a Jaguars fan,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: I have seen Chris Jones iso ball. I vividly remember
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: him going io for like half the game against a
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: rookie right tackle with Anton Harrison and I'm like, well,
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, good luck. So it's it's that
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: from the Bill's offense perspective, from their defense perspective, I
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: think there's gonna be a lot of odd mirror. If
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Benford and Arren Johnson are both healthy and playing, that
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: allows to play a little bit more man coverage. But again,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: you worry a little bit if neither of them are healthy,
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: this might become a DeAndre Hopkins bullyball game where DeAndre
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Hopkins a little bit weird, a little bit weird in
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: this offense, where as you just kept getting bigger, his
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: snaps have kind of dwindled, but he's still like I'm
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: just coming up with basketball references today. He's like he's
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: like Ray Allen when he when he got to the heat,
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: or like he's a little bit older, a little bit
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: long in the tooth, not exactly a primary option, but
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: if you leave him open in the corner, he's gonna
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: he's gonna hit you for twenty.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: Four Say yeah, tell the spurs and the dwindling seconds
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: of whatever, game seven or yeah in.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Game seven, you don't want to leave him open. So
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: you can't. You don't want to like devote all your
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: attention to DeAndre Hopkins because he's clearly not the focal
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: point of this offense. But you can't just say you're
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: gonna leave him on an island, because DeAndre Hopkins lives
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: on that island. He lives in those seven yard stop routes,
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: those comebacks. Yeah, it's the slants where that that's their
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: outside option. Yeah, So I'm curious how each team, which
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: team breaks serve against these quarterbacks when it comes to pressure.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: That's for point.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: And I those little things are like what creeps into
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: my brain for like, oh, of course, Like I keep
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: thinking how reliant the Bill's defense has been on takeaways,
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: and I keep waiting for it to like regress to
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: the mean and it doesn't, and I'm like, oh, of course,
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: you know when it'll regress to the mean against Kansas
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: City and they'll have no takeaways or I think of like,
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: you know, when DeAndre Hopkins is gonna have like a
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: twelve catch, one hundred and eighty yard game, it'll be
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: like this week, and but he still got that in him,
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: Like you just can't you can't get too lax and
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: think like, okay, like we can forget about him.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: He could still win a one on one.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: He could still function in those areas underneath, especially in
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: this offense and how there'schematically designed.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a very good point.
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: That was that just a point or was that one
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: of your actual point points?
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: That was that was just a point? I was going
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: through so many different point points for this game, and
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: one of the small ones was Charles Miniu being back,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: and the ability to design games because I think against
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: the Texans they had like eight unblocked pressures. Yeah, but
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: it was some insane number. Where the Texans Shanahan offenses
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: are weird because they don't let the quarterbacks set the protection.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: It's the center. So you found a lot of times
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: where Dalton Schultz was blocking George Carloftis. I don't think
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: that's gonna happen with Buffalo, but they the Chiefs just
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: know how to poke holes, yep. And their offense is
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: very reflective of their defense. They can just they can
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: just jab you every single down. There's gonna throw something
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: at you. See if you like it, see if you
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: don't like it, and then if you don't like it,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: they're just gonna keep hammering it in different ways. So
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: the pressure aspect and how Omniu being back, getting Karloftis
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: playing well. They can do so many different games and
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: designs up front that you worry a little bit about
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: the third down, the third and medium aspect of it,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: third and medium.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: Third and longs and then thing two like that's where
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: obviously you get into like the spags designer stuff in
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: third and long So what he's doing upfront with coverage.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: But I think he ties in or taps into I
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: should say he taps into the personnel that they have
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: defensively so well, like there's three safeties on the field,
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: sometimes there's four, and then it's like how many down
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: linemen are on there? Where's Leo Chanel? What are we
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: doing with Bolton? What are we doing with Tranquil? Like
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: where's Carloftis? Okay, where's Chris Jones up? He's lining up
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: in a five tech up Now he's a one tech now.
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: He's like just he can take these guys and push
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: different buttons and pull different levers, all within the structure
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: and scheme and situation, and he just he has this
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: uncanny knack for consistently doing it in like big moments
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: where you just know you're gonna get put in hell,
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: like you very rarely see him moment where you're like
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: oohf Like Spags got too creative on that one, and
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: it really bit him for this entire game, Like you
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: might get him for a couple plays.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: And this is one of my points that I'll mentioned later.
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: But he just he knows what to tap into regularly,
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: and I think he would do that even you know,
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: to a decent degree from a success standpoint, even if
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: he didn't have these body types. But he does have
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: these body types, and just it increases the deception and
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: what you have to account for because you're sitting there
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: trying to figure out, like, okay, what coverage are they
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: gonna spin too? Because there's like nine safeties on the field,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: So who's gonna do what?
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Like what's gonna happen? Like what you know?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: You've got McDuffie, who can play inside, who can play outside,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: who can play man, who's a really good blitzer? Like
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: all these So okay, where's the pressure coming from?
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Who's dropping? Who's doing what?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: And I said it with the first time the Bills
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: played the Chiefs. But one of my main points then
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: was can you get Spags before Spags gets you? Especially
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: when he brings these exotics and gets creative, like somebody's open.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: If they're dropping Mike Dana into coverage, that's an opportunity
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: you can exploit. But are you recognizing that Dan is
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: the one that's dropping? Are you able to gum up any.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Of the pressure? Is there a free runner coming? Are
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: they bearing down on you?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: Are they're heating you up, just a force a short
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: throw underneath so they can rally and tackle. Like there's
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: so many layers, and I feel like so much of
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: it is like playing a game of Chicken against Spag
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: of him being like, if you get me, cool, but
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: I think I can get you more than you get me,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: and it's just a matter of who gets got more,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: and that chess match in the back and forth. Yeah,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: it's just it's just so intense because of how Spags is.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: But then the body types that he has with Kansas
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: City makes it so much more complicated than it already
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: is schematically, like, it just enhances that next level and
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: yet it puts you in absolute hell.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: That's a really good point. I like that kind of
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: stub point. All right, what is your second matchup point
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: that you want to dive into.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: So it's a bit general and for the folks to
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: know me, you know, I was going to bring it up,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: but how the Bills run the ball against the Chiefs,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: And I thought I.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: Almost did that, and I told myself, I don't need
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: to because I know JP is going to do it
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: and we can talk about it.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Then I thought the Texans game plan against the Chiefs
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: in the run game was actually really good. They they
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: had a fifty success rate against the Chiefs on the ground.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: It was insane. Joe Mixon had one of the best
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: games of the Playoffs of his Playoffs career against the
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Chiefs and the run game. And where they did it
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: was in two specific ways I thought was interesting. It
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: was eleven personnel the first one. The first one was
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: eleven personnel. It's Shanahan offense. They didn't have they didn't
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: have a lot of their bigger guys on the field
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: without having Breven Jordan, they didn't really get into a
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: lot of the beefy stuff. But out of eleven personnel,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: the Texans had a point four to five epa per
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: carry against the Chiefs, which is really good. And the
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: reason I thought this was interesting was because of how
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs defended it first play of the game. I
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: think they're in a little bit bigger personnel and the
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Chiefs do what they normally do, walk Leoshan All up
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: as like a de facto of three tech I say
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: all the time, it's like a joke. Leoshan All is
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: one of the best three techs in the NFL, because
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: that's basically what they do with him.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: I mean that's the best. Like his best reps at
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: Wisconsin were like coming. I remember him blowing up Tyler
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: Linderbaum with Wisconsin versus Iowa and it was like, yeah, man,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: if you can and he uses him, it spags you
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: him as that sub package blitzer to like cause havoc
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: or her drop into the little hole, or he'll rap
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: on a game and it's stunting, like he just leans
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: into that skill set, which sounds like, oh of course
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: he does, but a lot of guys don't do that.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: And a lot of things with Shanal, which I also
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: think could be an interesting point for this game. When
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: he talked about pressure, was Shanal is the spy when
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: they do when they do the odd mere stuff, Shanal
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: is the spy. Because against the Ravens, Shanal was the spy.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: Whenever they play the mobile quarterbacks, it's Shanal who does
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: the blitzing because Nick Bolton and Drew Trank will a
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: little better in coverage. But in the run game they
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: had Shanal walked up. It's a three tech. The Texans
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: ran duo Adam ran five yards is great, but that's
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: for zone runs. Because he can shoot gaps and you
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: don't want to run du You don't want to have
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: to defend duo as a two hundred and fifty pound
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: mindbacker Walter as a three tech. I also think how
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: they defended it and eleven personnel was interesting because of
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: who was on the field. Mike Panell wasn't on the
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: field when they were in eleven personnel very often because
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: Mike Panell is not a pass rusher. So you have
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: guys like Turshaun Wharton and Mike Dana on the field
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: who are more sub packaged pass rushers, but not the
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: one tech you need next to Chris Jones. So I
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: wonder who how they play that game and then when
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: they condense it and they want to get big, the
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Texans had a little bit of success in ie formation,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: which makes you think of one person on the bills.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: This is the Regigillium game. I've been waiting for the
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Regigillium game, and I think this is the one. I
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: think the Texans had some really cool reps of duo
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: rap where they had wrap a receiver back around and
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: it kind of caught the linebackers off guard with the misdirection,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: and I think that's something because of how the Bills
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: like to run duo. I think that's something they can
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: lean into with Gilliam on the field, especially in I formation,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: because that's where the Texans really kind of hit the
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Chiefs hard. You think of the touchdown that they score
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: with Joe Mixon to go up on the Chiefs. It
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: was out of I formation. They ran duo rep and
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: he bounced it. And I just think for the Chiefs defense,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: if they don't have Panel on the field, you worry
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: a little bit about the run game. And of course
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: if you don't have Chris Jones on the field because
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: they rotate their tackles, yeah, that's a problem. So how
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: the Bills run the ball out of eleven personnel, which
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: has kind of been their thing because they can run
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: that monster ball eleven. I call it monster ball eleven
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: because it's Mac Collins is not a receiver. He is
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: a defensive lineman cause playing wearing number thirteen. And then
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: you have Dawson Knox who is a very good blocker.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: How they can kind of attack this Chief's run. This
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: Chiefs run defense out of eleven could really open up
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff for them when it comes to
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: playing matchup ball and playing the matchup game, because I
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: think the Chiefs if they don't want to play panel
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: because they're worried about getting like no pass rush from him, Like,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: that's the risk you have to that's the tradeoff.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Well, that's a good one.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: And what's nice too is when the Bills go eleven,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: I mean they could do it out of twelve two,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: but when they go eleven, they'll run duo out of it,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: and they'll have that kind of like three by one.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: But then they'll also like jet motion someone across, and
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: then they'll run mid zone week and so it'll be
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: out of the exact same look, the exact formation, but
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: they can run either concept which are significantly different even
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: though they have the same similar presentation, and then they'll
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: work in the play action and the layering off it.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, even in this game, they ran duo a
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: whole bunch out of that look, and then they're running
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: that like I don't know, people call it different things.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: I never even know what called like that, like that
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: front side naked type of deal where like it's not
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: play action, but the running back goes to the same
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: side as like the boot and he just takes off
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: for the flat right away, Alan hit it to Ty Johnson.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Ah the sprint out, the sprint, Oh there you go.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I always call it front
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: side naked. I don't know why.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: And they work that off the duo look so like
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: Brady will add layers and like spam a formation alignment
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: and play and then turn it into something else. And
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: you're like, just when you got caught up, now we
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: hit you with that. And that's even if they have
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: to get to that, because they can just keep spamming
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: the same look and if it's working, they'll just keep
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: doing it. And I like the incorporation of Gillium. I
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: would really like, give give me more pistol in this game.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: I know you like that as a pistol advocate. Give
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: me some pistol. Give me some offset pistol with Gilliam,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: so that way we can get downhill with some stuff,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: but we can also do some counter stuff.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: We can do some power stuff. Give me that sticks.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: Give me Gillium and Alec Anderson as the sixth offensive lineman,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: but put him as an inline tight end and then
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: give me, you know, send him in that kind of
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: blast motion and let me and then run counter with it,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: or tie it into play action and now he's essentially
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: a tackle and.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: It's big on big on the backside.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: Or you can leave him in line and go traditional
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: play action, try to push the ball down field. Knowing
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: that you've got again big on Big on the line,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: you don't have to worry about a tight end trying
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: to block whoever whatever edge they have out there. I
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: think that aspect the person again, this is one of
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: my points. The first time they they faced a little bit,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: but that personnel matchup because Kansas City, again, you've got
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: Justin Reid, and you've got Cook, and you've got Jamari Connor,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: and you've got Leo Chanel, and you've got Bolton, and
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: you've got Tranquil, and you've got these defensive line pieces,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: and you've got McDuffie.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: You've got all these.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: Guys where like they can kind of live in all
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: these different waters. Like if you want to go big,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: they can go big. If they you want to go light,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: they can go light. Like they can go dime in
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: a variety of looks with a variety of guys like
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: on the back end, let alone the front combinations.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: It's such a fun chess piece.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: I feel like we could literally just do a whole
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: episode on personnel versus personnel for the Bills offense versus
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: Chiefs defense because of how multiple the Bills are, but
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs are equally multiple because of what they have.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: And it's just like who pushes the right button at
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: the right time or pulls the right lever at the
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: right time. And I mean Chanel is a good example, right, like,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: how do you weaponize him? How do the Bills weaponize
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: Reggie Gilliam? How did the Chiefs answer? Like, and you
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: just go back and forth. The Bills can go with
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: the heavy personnel, but also then spread you out and
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: go with a three by two and put Gillham out
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: and do different things like that. Given taken back and forth,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: I think is a really cool piece.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: And I think the way the Chiefs defend these multiple
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: personnel is kind of how they've been so good because
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: they've drafted these guys, like something that the Chiefs did
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: against the Texans when they would have eleven personnel, but
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: it'd be sort of condensed with either Robert Woods or
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Xavier Hutchison close to the line. They just have Jamari
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Connor walk up and basically be the edge and he
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: would just fly in and make tackles. He would try
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: and cause some havoc. Something else that they would do
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: is they would get into that five to one front,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: which is something that the Bills ended up running against
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: the Ravens, where they would walk Chana instead of walking
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: him up as a three tech, they walk him up
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: on the edge. Yeah, like I'm saying, yeah, he got
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: blown off the ball as a three tech. And then
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: Spag's like, yeah, we're never doing that again to get
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: Let's put you on the edge and then they'll walk
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Trank will up on the other side, so they can
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: get to a six to one front out of their
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: nickel personnel. And they just have so many guys who
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: can wear different hats. You talked about Justin Reid, who
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: can do a little bit more of the stuff in
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: the box. Trip McDuffie is really good at Nickel and
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: outside to Mary Connor, has kind of been the the
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: hammer Nickel role where they will they'll play him. They
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: play a lot of dime, which is again I think
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: it's funny to say because Trip McDuffie is awesome, but
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: I think they have the most underrated defensive back group
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: in the league because of how versatile they can be
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: and how good they are at tackling, like they they
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: are monsters yea as tacklers, but that opens up so
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: many different avenues for you, and they can play Brian
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Cook who's double injuries. Jayden Hicks is a rookie who's
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: played well. So how the matchups go in the run
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: game is really gonna dictate where both teams go. Because
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: again with the Ravens, if you can't stop the Bills
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: up front, they're probably not gonna win that game. And
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen will be playing a handoff simulator where he's
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: just gonna give the ball up like it doesn't matter
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: because he'll just get six yards of play.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: And I think that makes this this iteration of the
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: Bills offense so much more dangerous than previous ones because
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: it's not like, Okay, we ran the ball enough, let's
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: get it back in Josh's hands. Brady will just sit
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: there and be like, they're not stopping the run, let's
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: just keep running it. And then instead of like, well,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: we'll keep running it, but we'll vary it up if
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: if you're getting worked on mid zone week, He's just
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: gonna keep running that if duo is working, he's just
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: gonna keep running duo like he will, and he will
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: do it from the same personnel, the same formation, the
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: same alignment, and you'll be sitting there being like, here
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: comes duo and he's like, we're still gonna get like
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: six yards and until you prove you can stop it,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: he's just gonna keep doing it. And that makes them
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: so much I feel like, so much more dangerous this
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: time because they're not so dependent on Alan and to
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: make the plays. And you saw that from time to
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: time under Dable, you saw it under Ken Dorsey. Now
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: it's just more like, okay, like let's insulate him with
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: this run game, with the easy buttons and schematic pieces
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: we can.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Do in the past game. But it really is the
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: run game that stirs the drink.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: And obviously that piece from you kind of let off
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: this whole conversation, and I'm in lockstep with you like
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: so much of For as much as Josh Allen maybe
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: the MVP, and he is what makes this team go,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: the run game is what is the foundation for everything
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: for this Bills offense. It's what is It's what they're
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: established from and against Kansas City you don't want to
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: get into a known passing situation, true drop back type
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: of game against Steve Spagnolo, Like, you don't want to
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: do that and people, you don't want to do that
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: in general today's day and age in the NFL, but
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: especially against Bags and this Chiefs defense and with the
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: instructure passing game kind of struggling at times for the
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: Bills in known downs and when you had to push
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: it downfield.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that run game is gonna matter a lot and
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: keeping them on track.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: That really that whole conversation.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know where all right, I'll stay with
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: Bills offense versus Chiefs defense just for this sum So
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: I titled this point beating the Chief's coverage rules. So
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: in Week eleven, Brady and the Bills they did a
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: very good job of creating leverage and separation in the
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: past game with various motions and various releases. We saw
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: stack releases, switch releases, those coupled with various motions, And
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: what was key about the motions is they varied in
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: terms of type of motion, but the tempo and the
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: timing those paired with the different releases and what they
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: were doing created hesitation and miscommunication on the back end
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: for Casey. Now again Nazi Johnson was in there. Maybe
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: that's not the same level of effect if you've got
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: Watson in this time around. But when you factor then
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: with how Casey operates. We know Steve Spagnolo, he will
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: wield split field coverages and match coverages like it is
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: a legitimate weapon. And then, like we talked about, he's
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: got the personnel to get creative upfront and on the
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: back end, and then Spags utilizes all of it to
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: put offenses into a spot where they truly don't know
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: what's coming post snap. So tied to that the personnel
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: pieces and the creativity is how sound they are in
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: their coverage rules usually and the Bills us that against
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs earlier this year, and it led to big
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: plays and players wide open. You had multiple reps where
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: sometimes you're motioning from a three by one into a
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: two by two. Sometimes you're motioning into a three by one.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: Sometimes you're going from a three by one into like
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: a tight like a bunch of trips.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Look, sometimes you're going into a four strong.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: The Bills would do all of this and post snap
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: for the Chiefs, it wasn't clear. You know who's the
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: number one, who's the number two, who's the number three,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: who's going deep, who's going out, who's going in. You've
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: got some guys kind of running obstruction or like natural
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: interference to open up somebody else. You add multiple chiefs
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: defensive backs pausing in their triggers and in their drops.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: And I thought Brady did a.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: Really good job that game of giving allen answers against bags,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: aside from just the general Hey you got to throw
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: with anticipation. Hey you got to beat the blitz before
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: it gets to you. Hey you've got to figure out
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: where the vulnerability is in this pressure look or this
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: coverage look, there were guys open. The Curtis Samuel touchdown
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: against Kansas City is a really good example. They motion
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: him in. It's a tight trips bunch. Look, they create
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: a multiple multiple switch releases like number one because number
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: two three becomes two. You don't the Kansas City's trying
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: to figure out what happens. Curtis Samuel goes on the out,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: He's got about six yards of separation. He gets the ball,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: pivots back inside, gets down to the goal line or
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: scores on there. So they did one with Dawson Knox,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: they did one with Shakir Like. It was consistent throughout
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: that game of using Kansas City's rules and preferences against themselves.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: And that's what can happen when you've got teams who
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: play match or teams who want to play Man and
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: they're trying to Banjo. Okay, like, hey, I got you, Like,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: whoever comes out, I'll take them.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: But if you got guys who are.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: Released in a stack and they move in unison five
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: yards downfield, and then you're sitting there like, okay, we
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: got to wait for one of them to break, and
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: then if they break a certain way, you're like, oh,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: that's the guy I take psych one of them's open.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: And again Nazzi Johnson was factoring into a lot of
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: this and he's it should be Watson in this game.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: So we'll see how that plays.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: But they really did a great job of attacking Kansas
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: City's coverage rules, forcing miscommunication.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: They even did it a little bit the.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: Big touchdown to Curtis Samuel against the Broncos where it's
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: that four by one, look you motion mac Hollins and
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: then you send him back and Pat Sortan thinks, okay,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: I need to go with Hollands, but I forget.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: I think it's McMillan on the outside. He goes with Hollands.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: So Tam slams on the brakes is like, uh oh,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: I need to take Curtis Samuel on the crosser, and
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: at that time he's already out leveraged and Samuel is
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: just gone and created so much space. So I think
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: that's like another example to the kind of a most
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: more recent example for folks. So you know, just Brady
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: just using motions, formations and releases to create leverage attack
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: coverage rules. They did it a ton against Kansas City,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: and with a defense that likes to operate with split
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: field coverages. These creative pressure looks match situations from a
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: cover standpoint, but also from a coverage tied to a
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: pressure standpoint. You can really put them in hell and
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: Brady did that in the first week. So I look
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: for that to continue. And if it doesn't, where did
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: the easy buttons come from or how does the structure develop?
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: I actually think that's a really interesting point because that's
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: something I'm kind of noticed in the Texans game, and
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't really know how to verbialize it. I think
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: you had on the head. It's the motion into stacks
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: and bunches that really kind of gave Kansas City some
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: problems in the passing game, specifically Tamari Connor when they
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: play that dying personnel and they played a lot of
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: man against the Texans, banking on the fact that C. J.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: Stroud is not that much of a runner, which he
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: really isn't. But of course it's going into will you
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: play man against this team? But where they struggled was
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: Tamari Connor wasn't exactly the change of direction guy that
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: you wanted. When the emotion into these stacks and bunches.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: There's one I think it's Hutchinson or Mechi when they
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: motioned them from two by two into a three by
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: one and they kind of run this little inbreaker. It's
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: not really like a yeah, it's Mechi and he runs
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: this inbreaker, runs right past to Mary Connor. So I
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: wonder if that's gonna be something that the Bills kind
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: of do, because that's what the Bills kind of major
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: it this season in the passing game. It's a lot
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: of the four by one they did it against the Ravens,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: A couple of times. I actually think it's been a
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: really nice build off of them. They ran Mesh out
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: of four by one, which is something that they do
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: all the time. But then they ran Mesh return on
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: the set one of Samuel third down conversions where they
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: sent them, they sent them and then they with them
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: right back to the outside and they got the first down.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: So I wonder if this is gonna be a game
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: where the Chiefs play more zone in order to limit
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: to Marie Connor's change of direction, but also to kind
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: of cut off all the water of those quick timing
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: passes by just having somebody there in the flat ready
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: or having somebody there to kind of break on the
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: ball immediately, because that's something that the Chiefs, like I said,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: they're the most underrated defensive back group in the league.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: They will break on passes and they're not only looking
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: to separate the ball. They're going to separate you like
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: they try and hit people and to separate them from
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: the ball. So I really the chess match again between Spags,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: who is the best defensive coordinator in the league, which
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think is like, I mean, he and Vic
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: Fangio still running the game at whatever age they are
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: and some of the best playoff performers in the NFL
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: going up against the Bill's offense that doesn't necessarily have
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: the force multiplier receiver, but can has out schemed everybody
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: And I think that's like that piece is so interesting
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: to tie back to the first one, because it's like, Okay,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: the Bills have done so good for the majority of
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: that You're winning with scheme, especially in the end the
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: past game, and when it hasn't worked, Alan does mutant
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: alien unicorn stuff and then plays outside of the scheme
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: and structure and makes play. But like, I was tied
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: into how much how much did you put out that
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: first game? How much did Spags come out of that
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: first game in week eleven and be like We're fine,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: I got him in the playoffs?
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: Will we go again? Like how much? Or vice versa.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: Does Brady think like, ooh, we won this game and
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: I didn't even pull this out in my back pocket,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: or I still got this in the clip like ready
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: to go, or we killed him with this, Wait till
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: he sees what I layer it with next time, Like
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: how what level is Joe Brady at in terms of
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: going toe to toe with SPACs. So to your point, yeah,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: like I I still I mean, I know what happened
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: in Cincinnati this year, but they had a ton of injuries,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: So how many give him a pass? I still think
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 4: lou Ana Rumo is up there, especially from like a
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: big game perspective, like like what Luke can cook up
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: is tremendous, and yeah, Fangio, it's so funny.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: How like that?
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: I feel like so so many people were jumping on,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: like to the demise of Fangio, like Staley being bad
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 4: and then Fangio not being great. Miami was like, oh
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: he sucks, and then he went to Philly and it's like, oh,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: maybe maybe his demise is kind of greatly exaggerated a
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: little bit, and yeah, you've got this mind with spags
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: who Yeah, you can just put you in hell in
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: variety ways, and he's already seen you once.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: Is that enough? How much do you have to pivot?
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: How much does he pivot? Yeah? That chess match?
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's that's such an interesting side of the ball.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: Granted they both are, but I feel like the I
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: feel like the Bills offense versus the Chiefs defense is
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: more fun schematically than the Chiefs offense versus the Bills
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: defense because it's Spags versus Brady and Allen and how
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: everything ties in. I like that, all right, what do
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: you have for your third and final point?
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: So my third and final point is one that is
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: very football guy meathead type of stuff, but it's the
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: playoffs and everything matters tackling. Who tackled better?
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: This was your third point? Two for I think are
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: what you point your last week to.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, who tackles better in this game? It's gonna
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: be cold, it's in Kansas City. Everything is on the line.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: You have the difference in a second and four versus
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: second and five opens up so many different things, Like
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's the stereotype football's game of inches,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: but it really is, especially when it comes to high
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: leverage games like this one. So per Sports Information Solutions,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs are I believe, fourth in yards after the
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: catch this season total, the Bills are. Chiefs are third
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: in yards after the catch, The Bills are seven. The
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: first two teams are the Lions in the box, which
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: makes sense, but again, these are two teams that are
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: built to win after the catch. You think of Travis
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: Kelcey kind of doing his thing kind of vibing and
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: then kind of just like it's not like he just
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: like absolutely shreds somebody after the tackle. They just kind
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: of just fall off of him. Yeah, Like it's very
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: much like a Hallmark movie or it's like it's just
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: oh no, I'm yes, yes. But even even without outside
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey, it's the Pachecko runs. It's Kareem Hunt who
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: is running his ass off. Yeah, for Kansas City, there
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: was a rep he had He got eleven yards where
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: he forces out Shair to commit inside and then jump
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: cuts and gets skinny through a gap for eleven yards
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I haven't seen you do this in
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: like six years. Man.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: I was saying, this is like rookie Opening Night against
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: the Patriots. Kareem Hunt like he winded the wound the clock.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: Bag was like, oh, and that's like like, of course
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: he's doing that now, like because they like another element
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: for them to have.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: Of course, it's like, oh my gosh, it's from Star Wars.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: I can't remember what he said. Uh, they have wings now,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: like they could fly now. So it's it's like that
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: they have Pachecko who runs hard through tackles. If you're worthy.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: Can can be a pain to tackle because of his speed.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: It's you just SMIs Schuster, who come who if he
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: comes back, when he comes back, will be a pain
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: in the butt to tackle. And I think in the
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: first half of the game the Bills did a really
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: good job tackling. Of course, the damn kind of broke
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: because the Dereck henrness of it, all of getting hit
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: by Derrick Henry. Those three yard runs were gonna turn
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: into ten And like you said, like off show like
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: they had a seventy five percent success rate as a
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: rushing teem insane like and again the Chiefs offense is
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: so weird because everybody's like, oh, they're really bad. They
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: don't know what they can't do anything. Against the Texans,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs had a point oh wait epa per carry
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: and a fifty percent rushing success rate on early downs.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: They had a forty six percent success rate as a
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: rushing offense. This is compared to a thirty percent on
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: early down of passing. They can just do this now,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: and so it's important for the Bills to tackle in
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: this game. You have to force them because those second
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: and nine, for those it's a two yard catch keep
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: those at second and eight instead of making them second
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: and six or second and five, which opens up so
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: much more of the playbook. And conversely, can the Bills
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: make the Chiefs miss Can they make them miss tackles?
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: The Chiefs are really good at just they're just really
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: good a really good fundamental defense when it comes to tackling,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: you know, they they don't really miss a lot of tackles.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: They they just it's hard to say, like they're they're
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: They're an impressive team by far. They're fifth in the
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: NFL in terms of least tackles broken. Like they just
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: they just wrap people up. Like it's very much. I
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: say it all the time. This is they're the team
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: that every coach is gonna go show their tapes of,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: like them making a tackle on second and two that
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: keeps it to a yard, or they're on the goal
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: line and they get stopped by a shoe string tackle,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: and it's like that's the difference between great and elite.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: And going back into kind of the narrative of this game.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: If the Bills want to be elite and want to
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: be the team of the AFC, you gotta do these
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: little things. And I think the Bills. The Bills defense
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: is kind of odd, where like they'll have great moments
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: like the first half of the Ravens game, fantastic moments,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: but they also will have moments where just like, man,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: you're just small, like you just get run over a
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: little bit, and they miss tackles. And again, if Taron
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: Johnson is it one you worry about tackling and you
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: say it from the other side, like you need those
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: shakir to make peoples unique, Coleman to make people miss
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: James Cook, who one of the best like bouncers on
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: duo in the NFL. He can bounce those really well.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: And again, it's about tackling. It's about the little things
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: in this game that are gonna separate you, especially when
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: the margins are so thin.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 4: That's a good point, you know, like those those fundamental pieces,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: and I mean tackling. There was an issue forbidden the
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: Bills even the first half. I mean Justice Hill ran
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: through DeMar Hamlin. Hamlin spins down and Justice Hill runs
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: through his chest, embrace the tackle. And then the second half, yeah,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: they're getting blown off the ball, they're missing some tackles. Also,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: did you kind of piggyback on your point. There are
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 4: one of the pieces you mentioned some Bills defensive metrics
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: from the second half against the Ravens.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with the run numbers because they're nuts.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: So seventy six point nine percent rushing success rate allowed,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: which is crazy e insane. What EPA per rush zero
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: point four nine seven so basically zero point five almost
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: a half point added per rush nuts for the run
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: game overall, EPA per play of zero point three five
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: eight success rate overall fifty eight point six EPAY per
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: drop back point two four to four drop back success
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: rate forty three point eight.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: All of those.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: Were the worst amongst all defenses in the second half
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: of the Divisional round, except for the drop back success rate,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: which was fifth. And this was in a week where
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: defense was optional for the Lions and Commanders, so you
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: really had to get light worked. And I thought the
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: Bills defense against Baltimore was kind of what they've been
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: for the majority of the year. Like they're not forcing
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: a lot of stops, they're not forcing a lot of punts,
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: they're not getting a lot of three and outs. It's
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 4: either we're going to turn you over or we're going
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: to force the field goal or will get tough in
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 4: our own end and you go for it on fourth
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: down and then we get to stop. But like, you
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: can move the ball in this defense, and we saw
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: it again, especially in the second half. I mean, Derek
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: Henry was running through him, Hill was running through him.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: You've got the Mark Andrews fumble.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: You've got a couple of drops that were spread out
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 4: throughout the game. You've got the you know, Mark Andrews
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: dropped two point conversion. I feel like there was a
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: multitude of pieces that were kind of like unforced errors
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: for the Ravens that the Bill's capitalized on, and you
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: keep thinking like, Okay, well they can't keep doing that.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: But the Bills have done that for like a majority
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: of the year. They find this way to just put
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: you into a spot. It's almost like like they're literally
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: coaching it. It's it's hard certain things you can coach, right,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: we're gonna try and punch the ball, We're going for
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: the peanut punch, we're going for strips, so on and
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: so forth. But they just find a way to consistently
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: use turnovers as a means to stop drives, whereas other
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: teams are like, okay, we're gonna, you know, play sound
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: coverage or we're gonna stop the run, which the Bills
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: obviously like they're not going by the wayside with those things,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 4: but it really is this defense has become reliant on
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: generating the negative plays. You can get them though, like
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: you can mash them. You can generate explosives, But then
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: they're gonna generate explosive. It might be a sack, it
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: might be a takeaway, it might be a big tackle
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: for a loss. And they play this game of you know,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: you might get us, but we're gonna get you. And
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: they played similar chicken aspect, but just different versus how
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 4: Spags plays it from a defensive standpoint, and the tackling
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: aspect obviously funnels into that. It funnels into my first
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 4: point with Mahomes, right, like get to Mahomes? Can you
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: bring him down once you get to them? How are
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: you doing against Isaiah Pacheco and Kareem Hunt and against
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins and Travis Kelsey, who, yeah, even though Kelsey
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: moves at like a half a mile an.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: Hour, guys just like melt.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: Off him when they try and tackle them, Like are
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: you falling into that? Like can you consistently make tackles
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: from depth. If Taylor Rapp isn't there, it's Cole Bishop
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: coming from depth to kind of erase runs that get
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: through the first and second level. All those pieces just
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 4: get magnified and highlighted. And it I forget who said
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: it originally, but it's like most football games are decided,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: there's like two to three plays that turn the tide
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: or stem the tide and change it. And I feel
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 4: like one of those could easily be like, oh, you know,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: you you had the you had Xavier Worthy, but the
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: angle and he just got by you and it turned
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: into a forty yard game or just that little difference.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: Those little things are so magnified. That's a really good point.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: I like that. I have several, No, I'm gonna stick
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: with this one. I like this one. I I dieah,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: I did this.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 4: I did the same thing last week too, but I
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: titled this one is just more conversational and pieces of
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 4: really I kind of just want I dove into it.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: So I literally just titled this.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 4: Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes and Steve Spagnolo and Chris Jones,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: those four people give Kansas City. Between the four of them,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: give Kansas City. Consistently a way to win schematically and
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: individually on.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: Each side of the ball.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: For years, we have seen offensively and defensively great situational
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: play calling design. See when seeing playoff for the Chiefs
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: in big games, especially in the playoffs, Andy Reid puts
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 4: a defense in hell in the low red zone on
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: third or fourth down, using the Eagles rules against them
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 4: from something he saw earlier in the year, and it's
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: a wide open touchdown. Spag's doing the same thing against
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: an offense on third and fourth downs what he's doing
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 4: to the Niners in the Super Bowl when he's cooking up.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 4: He does that with regularity, like creative coverage spins, pressure looks.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: And then we've also seen Patch Mahomes and Chris Jones
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: when those schematic things don't work. Mahomes and Jones are
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: like to get out of jail free card on each
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: side of the ball whenever the play calling or design
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: or sequencing doesn't win for them.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: Beating the Chiefs.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: Entails beating them schematically while also mitigating the individual wins.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: From Jones and Mahomes.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: I feel like so much of this Chiefs run that
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: we've seen has been You've obviously got the schematic pieces,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: but then within it, or even in the absence of that,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: it's the game wrecking sack or tackle for loss from
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: Chris Jones, specifically to end a Driver game. We've seen
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: it so much. It's fourth and four and he just
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 4: whoops any offensive lineman. It's a quick pressure in a
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: sack and it's over. Or it's fourth and two and
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 4: fourth and one and they run the ball and he
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 4: quick swims the garden. He's in the backfield, he makes
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: the tackle for loss and it's over, and you're just like,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: like he has been. I think everybody knows how good
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: he is, but he's been Mahomes as equal on the
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: defensive side of the ball in terms of this game
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: wrecker all world dude that can just erase any one
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: in everything. And that again, like that Jones aspect with
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: the game breaking sacks and tackles for loss is paired
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: with Mahomes with the backbreaking scrambles or throws in and
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: around contact and just ridiculous things that he can do.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 4: And the Bills obviously have beaten the Chiefs before, not
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: in the playoffs, but in the regular season.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: They've beaten the Chiefs before.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: And when they have you tie in those those little
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 4: moments of beating those four It's Allen beating Spag his
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 4: fourth down adjustment this year in Week eleven and scrambling
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: for thirty something yards on fourth and two for a touchdown.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: It's him playing above the scheme, him beating Spags's answer.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 4: It's the Bills split field coverage in odd mirror package
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: stymying Mahomes and Reid several years ago, leading to a
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 4: game winning interception where they run split field coverage Taron
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: Johnson interception.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: Boom.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 4: They get another interception against Mahomes with some odd mirror
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: stuff earlier this year in Week eleven, Like it's those
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: little pieces of You can either beat them schematically or
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: beat them individual, but usually it has to be both
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 4: because one cancels out the other. Usually, if Mahomes isn't
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: on point, Andy Reid is cooking up some stuff and
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: they're good. If Andy Reid's you know, not in his
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: bag in this game, Mahomes is transcending and he's fine.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: Same thing defensively, Spags is usually cooking. If he's not.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: Chris Jones is there to be like, it's all right,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna line myself up out wide and whoop your
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: right tackle and I'll take care of it.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: Don't worry, Spags, I got you. Like it's those four.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 4: So much of this team comes down on to I mean,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 4: just the relationship that Reid and Spags have and what
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 4: they're able to do with one another.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: But then having these all world.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 4: Guys on that side of the ball with them, like
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 4: as their running mates and kind of the guys to
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 4: do their bidding for them, and it just makes them
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: so hard to beat because not only do you have
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 4: to beat the coaches who are great at their job
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: and beat them schematically with the x's and o's, you
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: also still have to watch out for these individual game
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 4: records that can beat you at any moment. And a
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: quick little thing tied to this Andy Reid's Kansas City
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: playoff record with him without Steve Spagnolo. I'm not saying
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 4: this Spags is responsible for any resuccess, and obviously Pat
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: Mahomes plays a role so on and so forth, But
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: without Steve Spagnolo, Andy Reid was two and five in
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: the playoffs in Kansas City and six seasons. With Steve Spagnolo,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 4: He's fourteen and three in five seasons. This doesn't include
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: any of the games this year, fourteen and three in
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 4: five seasons, three super Bowl wins for Super Bowl appearances.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: Just what they have done is a dynamic duo.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: What Spags running the whole defense, a Fords Andy Reid
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: on offense, and then they each have this all world
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 4: game wrecker with them. It's just usually one of those
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: is good enough to beat you. If they get multiple
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: it makes it even more so. It's it's so hard.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: We talk a lot about force multipliers. We talked about
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: on this show of Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes being
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: a force multiplier. Chris Jones is a force multiplier. He
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: is someone who elevates everybody else around him because of
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: the attention that he receives, and I think that's an
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: important aspect of how important he is and how good
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: he's been in the playoffs. It's you can't you can't
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: double him because Spag is gonna draw something up crazy
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: that will leave an unblocked pressure, which is exactly what
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs did to the Texans. But you can't risk
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: leaving him one on one because he's gonna absolutely obligate
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: anybody that you put him up against. I think there
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: was a rep. It was a holding call, I think
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: drawing on somebody else. But he walked Laramie Tunzel back
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: into CJ. Strouds lap. And it's like, Laramie Tunzel is
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: their best pass protector.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you do?
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: What one of my best pass protectors in the league?
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: What else am I supposed to do?
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: What? Hope does anyone else have?
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: What do you?
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: Where do you go from there?
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: And again it's the playoff aspect of it. Chris Jones
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: always goes to a different level in the playoffs. And
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: I think it's not only not trying to stop these
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: force multipliers, it's you just gotta store them down.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: Yep, mitigate, Yeah, you can't stop it.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: Same thing with Kelsey for years it was like, you're
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 4: not gonna stop Travis Kelcey, But can you just limit
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 4: him to like four catches for fifty two yards instead
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 4: of like twelve for one hundred and fifty?
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: Can you force somebody else to beat you? If George
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: Carloftus has three sacks in this game, okay, fine, that
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: if that how we're gonna go out. Because George Carloftis
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: decides to turn into Reggie White perfect like that's game.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: Congratulations to you. But you cannot let Chris Jones take
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: this game over, both in the run game and the
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: passing game, because there will be moments where he just
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: shuts a playdown just hell, he can shut drives down,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: where he's just like, all right, there's nothing else happening
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: on this one, Like it's it's over from that point.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: And I think the Bills have built this team to
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: kind of manage the Chris Jones. I said it with
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: Derek Derek Henry lightning Bolt. They built the team to
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: kind of be able to manage the Chris Jones Lightning
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: Bowl or the Pat Mahomes scramble, like you have to
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: be able to weather those storms, and say the same
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: thing for the Bills offense. You have to be able
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: to weather the storms and the punches that are gonna
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: be thrown at you in this game. And that's ultimately
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: how the Chiefs beat team. They weather them so much
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: that eventually Chris Jones is gonna get hold. Eventually Mahomes
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: and Reed are gonna find an answer. Eventually Spags is
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: gonna keep poking a hole until he gets what he wants.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: So the Bills have to have a way to weather
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: these storms and not allow poked holes to become glaring ones.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 4: That's so well said, and I feel like that that
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 4: encapsulates kind of yeah, just what the Chiefs are like.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: They're always they're never blown out.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 4: They're always like obviously, you know, I don't want to
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 4: speaking complete absolutes, but usually heavy majority of the time,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 4: they're never blown out. They are in the game, and
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 4: that's enough just to have Chris Jones game wreck or
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 4: have Pat Mahomes make a play, or sometimes you know,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 4: now a little bit, it's you know, Trent McDuffie does something,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 4: or the run game does something, like it's just they
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 4: do enough to stay close and then something schematic or
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 4: superstar individual happens and it turns the tide and they win.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 4: Or it's a block field goal against the Broncos, like,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 4: it's something where they're just in it enough to let
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: the coaching or superstar individuals take over.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: And even though you mitigated.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 4: It for a little bit, you weren't able to fully
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: kind of separate and take advantage of it.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: And if they're within striking distance, you're.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 4: It's just super vulnerable because of who they are from
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 4: a coaching standpoint, from a fundamental standpoint, from a schematic standpoint,
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 4: and then yeah, just having these individual guys. I was
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 4: thinking about it a lot during what hat When was
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 4: it during uh? I think it was whatever rep it
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 4: was where they moved Chris Jones against Houston, where they
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 4: moved him outside and he just whooped her.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when I ran.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 4: Right around him sack start toward the end, I think
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 4: like the fourth quarter at some point when Houston was
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 4: trying to like tie it and kind of see what
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 4: they could do, and it was literally just at that
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 4: point it hit me, Like Chris Jones has been talked
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 4: about it's so good, but I really feel like he's
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 4: Ben Mahomes is equal on that defensive side of the ball.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 4: So many times Mahomes just does something and it's like,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 4: oh my god, he just transcended everything, played above the
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 4: scheme and made a play. And like you said, Chris
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 4: Jones does that, like even like games where he's getting
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 4: beat up in the run and we know he doesn't
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 4: want to defend the run and then yeah, it's a
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: fourth and one and he just blows up a guard
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 4: or just shoots through and makes the play and you're
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 4: just like what, like how the play had just like
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 4: they snapped the ball and it's over immediately.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: Because Chris Jones blew it up.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 4: It's those moments where he just decides to take over
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: for a play or a drive, and it's that piece of.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: What do you do to mitigate those guys? Can you get.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 4: Away enough from them from a score standpoint where that
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 4: game wrecking on either side doesn't turn the tide, doesn't
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 4: turn the tables on you and you're still okay. But
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 4: then that means the schematic stuff, and it's just it's
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 4: so hard to beat all of those things, which is
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 4: why they're consistently in games and why they tend to
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: win more often than not. And it's utterly frustrating in
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: every way, shape and form.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: It's so frustrating because they are the rage quit team.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: They they make you want to rage quit. They make
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: you They make you so frustrated, Like how did he
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: get a scramble for eleven on third and ten and
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: he just sticks the ball out right as somebody's hitting
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: him and it's a first down? How is Travis Kelcey
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: so wide open? It's there was a specific play where
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: I could just like playing Travis kelce would piss me off.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a third and six check down. They
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: do that little delay. The Vikings love doing a delay
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: with TG Hodkinson. They did it with Travis Kelce. He
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: gets seven yards on third and six and it's just.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: All yeah, you're like, like.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: You just you want to rage quit the game. And
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: that's something I've talked about a lot with the Bills
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: and specifically with Josh Allen, but I feel it's more
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: of the Bills as a whole. The Bills, like you said,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: their defense is built on chaos, negative plays. We will
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: allow an explosive, but will take an explosive back how
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: they perform against a team that doesn't really they don't
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: really need to do explosives, Like we don't really have to.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: We're gonna mitigate the explosive plays you get while also
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: getting four yards, five yards, three yards, four yards, And
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: it's just again, this team is built for the jab.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: This team is built to keep jabbing you every round.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: They're gonna make make you feel it, make you feel it,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: make you feel it. Maybe they'll throw a body shot
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: in there, but we're gonna keep throwing a jab. And
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: then as soon as you get tired of that jab.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: They're gonna hit you with the cross and it's like,
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: oh my god, I forgot they could still do that.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: Like it's the Mahomes touchdown where he's falling down and
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: throws it at Dravis Kelce who just stares right back
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: up and disease outsty Year. That's the cross. That's the
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: right cross. And so the Bills have to be able
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: to weather those jabs and not let them become major
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: sticking points.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: That's very well said.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're just you're just feeling that jab over and over.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: But it's like working and they're winning rounds based on
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: points and then you're like okay, like time to open
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 4: it up. And then there comes to get the cross
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 4: or the uppercut or the hook, and you're like, how
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 4: did I end up down on the ground? Why is
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 4: everything fuzzy? And did I lose this fight?
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: And yeah, it's just in the blink of an eye, man,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: they can get you. Yeah, very well said.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 4: Anything else to wrap up any points thoughts on this game,
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 4: high level detail, anything you got left in the clip
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 4: or in your notes that you want to speak on
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 4: our address before we start to wind down.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: Here, I as me something real quick about Joe Tuney.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: Joe Toney had a bad game against freaking batman on
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: the edge. Like Will Anderson Jr. Is one of one,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: like just the stuff that he can do. And Bill's
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: fans have seen Will Anderson Jr. He is a monster.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: Joe Tony's played incredible at tackle. Yes, after moving to
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: tackle mid season, he's played incredible. I don't think I
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: don't think this is the matchup that the Bills would
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: want with Tony at tackle because he's less susceptible to power.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: Despite being a little he's less susceptible to power. Will
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: Anderson beat him with speed and bend which.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: Is dipped around the edge. Show that speed to power
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: and then.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: Screwt Yeah, which is something that the Bills edges don't
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: really do outside of von Miller. Nope, Where they need
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: to attack in this game, where the hole is is
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: right tackle and left guard because with Tuny moving up tackle,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: somebody's got to take his place, and I believe it's
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: Mike Caliendo. Jowan Taylor has been Jawan Taylor this year
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: like that that those are the matchups that they need
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: to address. But again, the Bills have done such a
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: good joke this season of avoiding the catastrophic meltdowns.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: Fingers crossed.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no Jins, But they cannot let this game snowball.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: They can't let a negative play snowball them. And I
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: think the last game that that really happened was like
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: the Texans game, where just everything just broke, broke the
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: wrong way. Josh Allen went nine to thirty, the pass
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: rush was absolutely dominating, Derek Stinguly, Kamario Lasser shut down
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: the edges, and then Nico Collins is Nico Collins. Yeah,
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: but what they've done such a good job of is
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: mitigating the disaster and mitigating the snowball effect. They can't
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: let this game snowball, despite how high the emotions will
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: run in this game on the road in Kansas City,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: you can't let it snowball. And I think that's gonna
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: be one of the biggest aspects of a championship team,
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: a team that has been there before, is they don't
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: let stuff snowball. You rarely ever see the Chiefs get
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: rattled like they just they're just they do this. So
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: the Bills can't let everything snowball in this game, and
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: they've done a really good job of it. But that's
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: one of the big things I want to say. They
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: just don't let it snowball.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 4: That's very well said they and I think I like that.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 4: I like to think that at this point, like the granted,
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 4: some of the leadership structure from a on the field
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 4: and all the field standpoint has changed a bit within
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 4: the roster, but.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: This team's been through so much the past several years,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: and I.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 4: Really feel like like all those failures and those scars
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 4: and like the fires that they've been through have really
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 4: fortified them to be a team where they don't really
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 4: get rattled then don't get down, and that's part of
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 4: the reason they're in close games all the time. Like
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 4: they they don't get blown out. They are able to
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 4: take a punch. Even that Houston game, it looks like,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: oh my god, this game's going to go off the rails,
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 4: and then they clawed their way back and they arguably
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 4: should have won that game like late, even with playing
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 4: absolutely horribly, and granted Nico Collins went out after that
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 4: big touchdown, but like they're down Shakir in that game
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 4: and they're missing some dudes and you're like, oh my god,
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 4: they're getting worked, and they find a way to come
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 4: back the week after they got housed by Baltimore, Like
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 4: it could have been easy to be like, oh, this
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 4: is another one we're going to get housed.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: And they find a way to try and scrap back.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 4: And even last year, playing against Kansas City in the
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 4: Division round with I can't even remember at this point
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 4: how many defenders they had out in that game.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: Was getting serious.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: Run aj Klein.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 4: The whole piece was he was like on his way
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 4: to a cruise with his family and then got the
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 4: call of like, hey man, you want to come back
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 4: and play football, like seriously, like this was several weeks before,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 4: and so he's like okay, and so he came back,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 4: was practicing, was there and then yeah, with all the injuries,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 4: starts and plays a significant amount in the Division round.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 4: And he does that because granted he's not the athlete
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 4: he once was. Dorian Williams is a much better athlete.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 4: But Dorian Williams is getting misled left and right like
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 4: a puppy with a treat on.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: Any type of eye can to your misdirection.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 4: So they feel it's kind of like six and one
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 4: half a dozen the other do we take the athlete
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 4: who's now ready for processing standpoint, or we take the
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 4: Vet who's got it all from the neck up but
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 4: isn't necessarily where we need physically. And you've got him,
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 4: You've got Rasul Douglas playing on one leg. You've got
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 4: Christian Benford out for that game. You've got Bernard out
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 4: in that game. And you've got Dake one Jones just
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 4: came back, but he's banged up. There's no Milano, Like
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 4: there's all these pieces. Milano was an injury concerned for
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 4: this week. He got his knee banged up. Does he
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 4: play this week?
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: We'll see. Oh yeah.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 4: There's just there's so many layers attached to this game
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 4: in a multitude of ways. And yeah, like this, I
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 4: don't even want to say what I was gonna say,
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 4: because I was gonna be like, oh, I don't think
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 4: anything of snowball, And then watched the Bills get housed
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 4: like thirty five nothing but that I don't think that'll happen,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 4: but it wouldn't be.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not gonna let U sleep in my paranoia.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: But yeah, man, what a game.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 4: I was hyped for Bill's Ravens obviously, and then the
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 4: schematics of it. But now it's a different it's a
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 4: different level of schematics with this one, and then the
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 4: winner goes to the super Bowl.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: It's these two teams again.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 4: It is the Brady and Manning Pats Colts of this
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 4: generation and this cycle of the NFL, and we'll kind
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 4: of see what it breeds. And I appreciate you taking
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  Speaker 4: the time to join me on this run, in this conversation.
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  Speaker 1: I very very very much.
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  Speaker 4: Hope that we are doing this for a fourth consecutive round,
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  Speaker 4: not next Tuesday, but the one after because there will
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  Speaker 4: be a bye.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully we're doing it leading up to the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills.
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  Speaker 4: But regardless whether we do, whether we don't, you are
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  Speaker 4: awesome as always. Just in case people don't know who
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  Speaker 2: Of course, you can find me at Acosta thirty two,
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  Speaker 2: NFL writer for eSPI Nation. I am the football writer.
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  Speaker 2: So anywhere whereas football being played, I'm probably talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing a lot of NFL draft work of starting this,
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  Speaker 2: starting up this week. I'm gonna be immobile for the
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  Speaker 2: Senior Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Of course you're there the year when I'm not going.
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  Speaker 4: There's so many people that are like going this year,
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic, this is I've been trying to get back since
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  Speaker 2: draft prospects. Got a mock draft I think coming out
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow and I'll just spoil it here. I have the
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  Speaker 2: bills taking Michigan's Kenneth Grant. Oh, I take it is?
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  Speaker 2: Who is a house as a run defender? Take it?
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  Speaker 2: But follow me, see what I'm doing, see where I'm going.
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  Speaker 1: You are awesome.
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  Speaker 4: I will be dming you after to say all these
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  Speaker 4: things again and thank you for your time, but again
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  Speaker 4: multiple weeks in a row, crushing it with the content,
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  Speaker 4: making yourself available. I appreciate it. I know a lot
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  Speaker 4: of the folks were pumped to see you again for
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  Speaker 4: this episode. Enjoy the rest of your Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: Again. We went almost two hours. Just once another little marathon.
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  Speaker 4: Technically we did do two hours because we talked offline
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  Speaker 2: It does.
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  Speaker 1: It counts. You're awesome.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate you for the work that you do and
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  Speaker 4: this comment from Pops who said, why is Dwayne Carter
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  Speaker 4: not playing in the playoffs after playing all year?
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  Speaker 1: I think For me, it's just this level of effective.
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  Speaker 4: Especially with how teams are gonna want to run the
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  Speaker 4: ball in the playoffs. His biggest issue with this point
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  Speaker 4: is getting displaced against the run, especially versus double teams.
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  Speaker 4: He's getting blown off the ball, He's getting displaced horizontally
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  Speaker 4: and vertically. You're just not seeing that level of effectiveness
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  Speaker 4: against the run, and then you're not getting the pass rush,
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  Speaker 4: juice or pop to kind of mitigate it or balance
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  Speaker 4: it out. So I think they just went with not
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  Speaker 4: that you know, Jefferson's a huge upgrade, or even Phillips
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  Speaker 4: or Austin Johnson are a huge upgrade, but I think
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  Speaker 4: they've given you a bit more than Carter, who at
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  Speaker 4: this point is just kind of not even a rotational body.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's more like a defensive tackle five or
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  Speaker 4: six at this point. Doesn't mean he can't get better,
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  Speaker 4: but I've spoken a couple times on the show.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's largely been ineffective all year, which is unfortunate.
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  Speaker 4: He had a good game against the Texans, but he
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  Speaker 4: really wasn't able to string more pieces together. Had some
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  Speaker 4: flashes here and there, but I think they were few
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  Speaker 4: and farther between and just with this aspect of the
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  Speaker 4: playoffs in general.
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  Speaker 1: Wanting a little bit more maybe or expecting teams to run.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit having a different type of skill set
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  Speaker 4: to round out the roster, especially on the interior. I
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  Speaker 4: think that's what they went for, but who knows. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: who play this week and suit we will see.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see if we can continue to do this going forward.
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  Speaker 4: If the bills do advance might kick around some bonus
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  Speaker 1: Big Week, Big Game, savor it, enjoy it.
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  Speaker 4: Bills down to the final four again, chance to win
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  Speaker 4: We'll see what happens. Enjoy the week, relish in it.
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  Speaker 4: This is still even though it's you know, could be
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  Speaker 4: this point and just be one of the final four
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  Speaker 4: But until then, godspeed and as always go Bills.