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The Bolt Report | 7 July · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Needs the reform it.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to admit to something. What I said last night,
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  Speaker 2: it's actually much.
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  Speaker 1: Worse and more serious.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: I and everyone else went.
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  Speaker 2: On about Anthony alban Ezi, the Prime Minister of Australia,
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  Speaker 2: being so low rent that he said on a podcast
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  Speaker 2: that he wanted to quote Shag singer Kaylie Minogue. But
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  Speaker 2: what I and so many overlooked is how alban EASi
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  Speaker 2: also mocked and sexualized the prime minister of one of
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  Speaker 2: our most critical allies in these suddenly dangerous times, an
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  Speaker 2: ally that was already wondering if we could be trusted.
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  Speaker 2: Japan's Sanai Takeichi. She came to Australian to talk to
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  Speaker 2: Albanzey about security, about his threats to our gas exports,
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  Speaker 2: and while here she paid public tribute to our war dead,
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  Speaker 2: especially those who died fighting her country now. It was
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  Speaker 2: deeply respectful and Takei also had a gift for Albanizi,
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  Speaker 2: a crown melon to thank Australia for letting in imports
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  Speaker 2: of this prize fruits. A note Takey's, she gave him
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  Speaker 2: one melon, a detail you'll find is relevant. So, like
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  Speaker 2: I say, very respectful in the Japanese way. But here
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  Speaker 2: is how Albanezi turned the Japanese Prime Minister and her
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  Speaker 2: gift into a dirty joke with podcasts that Nicki Osborne
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  Speaker 2: who asked him to name the worst gift he ever got.
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  Speaker 3: Here is something I got recently here that was pretty
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  Speaker 3: strange but ended up being quite good. Was a melon.
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  Speaker 3: The Japanese Prime Minister brought a melon?
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  Speaker 4: Did he get that through custom?
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  Speaker 5: She?
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  Speaker 3: It's a royal melon?
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  Speaker 6: She smuggled it was a she she she smuggled it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, got a couple of melons?
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  Speaker 4: She brought two.
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  Speaker 8: She brought too, as you do.
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  Speaker 9: She just came in looking like Pamela Randers.
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  Speaker 1: She brought to.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, take She actually gave Albernizi one melon.
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  Speaker 2: So it's very clear that the Prime Minister, by turning
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  Speaker 2: it into two, was making a pathetic sexual joke at
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  Speaker 2: her expense. And that was made even clearer by him
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  Speaker 2: even gesturing around his chest. So we can only guess
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  Speaker 2: why he was already smirking when he was with Takechi
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  Speaker 2: and camera. What was on his mind?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 2: This is all so trashy and so insulting and so sexist,
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  Speaker 2: and I wonder again why Labour's noisy feminists are today
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  Speaker 2: so silent. I also wonder what and thinks of this
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  Speaker 2: man and his government when it has already been alarmed
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  Speaker 2: by its threats to its critical gas contracts, and when
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  Speaker 2: it has been shocked by Albanez's refusal to criticize China's
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  Speaker 2: dictatorship for threatening to cut Takeiichi's throat. Yes, it really
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  Speaker 2: did do that. And now we got this, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister Benny Hill. And this when China is firing
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  Speaker 2: nuclear capable missiles as a warning to us, when the
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  Speaker 2: United States is now an unreliable ally, and when Japan
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  Speaker 2: is becoming our most important friend in any confrontation in
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  Speaker 2: our region. So how can we afford to have a
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  Speaker 2: prime minister who treats Japan's female leader with such sexist disrespect?
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  Speaker 2: Now talking about the China threat, something else is being
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  Speaker 2: ignored now. Yes, the ballistic missile that China fired yesterday
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  Speaker 2: in our general direction is frightening enough, particularly when you
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  Speaker 2: see when and where that missile was fired.
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  Speaker 1: The when is obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Yesterday, when Anthony Alberinezi signed a treaty with Fiji clearly
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  Speaker 2: aimed at China. And the where is where it splashed
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  Speaker 2: down among a bunch of Pacific islands close to where
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  Speaker 2: our Prime minister was visiting today, the Solomon Islands. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that's a coincidence, and the message was received
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  Speaker 2: here is Albani is He today.
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  Speaker 7: There is no doubt that this is a provocative act
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  Speaker 7: by China which does destabilize the region. It is standard
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  Speaker 7: procedure for tests such as this for there to be
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  Speaker 7: given forty eight hours notice. This was not done on
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  Speaker 7: this occasion.
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  Speaker 2: The Solomon Islands Prime Minister also got the.
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  Speaker 6: Memo registered my strong protest yesterday with the ambassador.
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  Speaker 1: Be our friend, but don't threaten.
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  Speaker 2: Us alvinacy today. Just wishing away this threat is so
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  Speaker 2: typical of a government that conducts foreign policy as an
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  Speaker 2: exercise in hopeful thinking.
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  Speaker 7: What we need is a less nuclear Our weapons are
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  Speaker 7: certainly not more.
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  Speaker 1: Please just face facts.
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  Speaker 2: There is no way that China would give up building
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  Speaker 2: more and better nuclear weapons, nor would its allies Russia.
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  Speaker 1: And North Korea.
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  Speaker 2: And that means we can't afford a lazily dream of
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  Speaker 2: fluffy kittens and cotton ball clouds and a world free
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  Speaker 2: of nukes. We must get stronger and richer to defend
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  Speaker 2: ourselves got to do the hard work.
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  Speaker 1: But more than that, and here is what's being missed.
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  Speaker 2: We must urgently get much more high tech in every
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  Speaker 2: which way. You not keep going like we are backwards deindustrializing.
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  Speaker 2: And that's because China won't need to wipe us out
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  Speaker 2: with nuclear weapons or weapons of any kind. It's already
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  Speaker 2: overwhelming us technologically. In fact, the whole West is now challenged.
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  Speaker 2: And I give you just three examples recent ones. America's
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  Speaker 2: space station it is ending its life. In contrast, China
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  Speaker 2: two weeks ago announced that it plans a big expansion
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  Speaker 2: of its own space station, it's third, which is already
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  Speaker 2: impressive enough in its engineering and in astronaut comfort, with
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  Speaker 2: exercise machines and even clothes with muscle testing resistance, so
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  Speaker 2: they're astronauts, muscles, they't waste the way in zero gravity.
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  Speaker 1: They are doing all that.
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  Speaker 2: When Australian universities are faffing around with indigenous astronomy of
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  Speaker 2: all pointless things, how China must laugh at us. It's
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  Speaker 2: not going down that kind of absurd multi culturalism. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: it last week connected a new ethnic Unity Low to
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  Speaker 2: push Chinese language in Chinese nationalism on its ethnic minorities.
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  Speaker 2: Some of got to tell us tell it our most
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  Speaker 2: popular slogan, you know, diversity makes us stronger. China doesn't
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  Speaker 2: seem to think so. Second example, China has already developed
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  Speaker 2: robots with astonishing agility, and this year unveiled its newest
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  Speaker 2: with mechanical face muscles to give it expressions plus software
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  Speaker 2: to give it empathy.
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  Speaker 1: Here's a review.
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  Speaker 10: Here, it's purporting this as a house partner with whole
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  Speaker 10: body tactile perception. As the baby asks for the robot
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  Speaker 10: to hand over its toy, it says that it also
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  Speaker 10: understands language. In this next clip, it's working as a
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  Speaker 10: partner to this woman. It says that it features something
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  Speaker 10: like an amygdala for emotional understanding and a deep sense
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  Speaker 10: of situational awareness. Here it tells this woman to take
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  Speaker 10: a rest because she's been working for an hour. Next,
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  Speaker 10: it acts as a well being partner for the elderly
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  Speaker 10: after giving this woman a drink. Here it's walking up
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  Speaker 10: to this grandma and asking her to tell it a
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  Speaker 10: story about when she was young, apparently using the droid
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  Speaker 10: Soul intelligence engine, which the company says not only understands thoughts,
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  Speaker 10: but also takes the initiative to accompany you.
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  Speaker 2: The price of that care roebook two hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars. What are we making in austro It's a
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  Speaker 2: match that I'm showing you. And to the third example,
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  Speaker 2: China this year revealed the fastest production model car ever built,
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  Speaker 2: the Young one U nine X electric car built by byd,
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  Speaker 2: setting a world record of four hundred and ninety six
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  Speaker 2: kilometers an hour. Why head of a Bugati or any
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  Speaker 2: other competitor you could find in Europe or America or
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  Speaker 2: wherever it's a car that's stunned. Former top gear star
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  Speaker 2: Richard Hammond, how.
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  Speaker 11: Does it make us all across the motoring world? We
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  Speaker 11: think where the most exciting technologically advanced cars come.
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  Speaker 2: From, not just across the motoring world?
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  Speaker 1: And is right?
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  Speaker 2: And again, what does Australia build? Do we develop technology
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  Speaker 2: like that or technology that lets people pay just by
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  Speaker 2: scanning their palm, or do we build firefighting dog robots
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  Speaker 2: or back to the military for that matter, armed dog
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  Speaker 2: robots backed up by swarms of microdrones able to kill
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  Speaker 2: en mass. What do we build that will guarantee that
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  Speaker 2: we stay rich and free? Now, but let's think missile
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  Speaker 2: firing over flying right over our pri Minister. That's just
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  Speaker 2: a warning shot of a future for which we haven't
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  Speaker 2: even started to prepare.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, if you want a shocking read on
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  Speaker 2: how we've tossed away our scientific and engineering advantages have
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  Speaker 2: become roadkill on the Chinese Highway, read this terrific new
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  Speaker 2: book by Australian academic Daria Tonchic While Australia slept, how
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  Speaker 2: wealthy nations slumbered its way to economic decline. But by
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  Speaker 2: way of introduction to my first to guests this decline,
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  Speaker 2: when will more Australians wake up and feel the pain
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  Speaker 2: of it? You know, people in Australia's most catastrophically miscoverned
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  Speaker 2: state might actually now be doing just that as they
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  Speaker 2: literally fall into a hole. Victoria's now broke after spending
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  Speaker 2: on insanities like you know, green energy and First People's
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  Speaker 2: Assembly and Commonwealth games that are then cancels without a
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  Speaker 2: single race being run, plus of course massive pay rises
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  Speaker 2: through a blow to public service. It is now so
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  Speaker 2: broke that it's run out of money to simply repair
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  Speaker 2: roads like it used to, so that it's increasingly like
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  Speaker 2: driving in the Third world in Victoria with the worst
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  Speaker 2: potholes in the country. The website snap Send Solved says yes, indeed,
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  Speaker 2: Victorian roads are easily the worst, judging from reports, and
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  Speaker 2: it's getting even worse. The Herald Sun Today reports that
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  Speaker 2: drivers have made a massive fifteen thousand pothole and road
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  Speaker 2: damage reports so far this year, compared to fewer than
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  Speaker 2: twelve thousand in the same period last year. I'll show
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  Speaker 2: you some examples from just the past week or two.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Turdin Station Road next to a big
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  Speaker 2: new housing development. This is from Banella last week. Can
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  Speaker 2: you imagine hitting that at speed? This is part of
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  Speaker 2: the Murray River Road in northeastern Victoria. This is the
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  Speaker 2: euro Merton Road that could kill a motorcyclist in the dark.
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  Speaker 2: This is south of Taller Rook on the Hume Freeway.
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  Speaker 2: This is from the Princess Highway. And there's an even
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  Speaker 2: bigger hole on the Nepean Highway that caused five hundred
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  Speaker 2: dollars damage to Alex's car. I could do the whole
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  Speaker 2: last night at eleven thirty for four hundreds apart.
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  Speaker 12: Their franceport as pain road o by them said it
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  Speaker 12: would be fifth by sixty m.
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  Speaker 11: This morning.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously it's not first as we've seen.
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  Speaker 2: I could go on all night. I hit a big
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  Speaker 2: pothole myself driving to Melbourne last week in the dark.
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  Speaker 2: But then there's the pothole on the Golden Valley Road
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  Speaker 2: last week that smashed this tire that was very kindly
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  Speaker 2: replaced by passing motorists. Danny O'Brien, who's leader of the
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  Speaker 2: Nationals in Victoria. Dannie O'Brien, thank you so much for
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  Speaker 2: your time. How bad is this pothole disaster in Victoria?
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  Speaker 12: Catastrophic at the moment, Andrew and frankly getting worse than
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  Speaker 12: you could see on all those pictures. That's been around
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  Speaker 12: for a long time, but it just seems in the
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  Speaker 12: last couple of weeks we've had a little bit of rain.
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  Speaker 12: Yes in the northeast, we had maybe one hundred mills
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  Speaker 12: in some areas, but that shouldn't be enough to destroy
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  Speaker 12: our roads. And that's literally what's happened. And I've been
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  Speaker 12: driving around the last couple of weeks, particularly in northern
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  Speaker 12: Victoria and Gippsland, and the number of cars I've seen
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  Speaker 12: on the side of the road pulled over, including that
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  Speaker 12: one you just showed, Well, it was there. That was
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  Speaker 12: where I was on the Golden Valley Highway and helped
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  Speaker 12: a young peop later who had a blowout.
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  Speaker 1: It's happening everywhere.
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  Speaker 12: There are dozens of people on the sides of the
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  Speaker 12: roads because they've hip potholes and blown tires, damage rims,
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  Speaker 12: cracked rims, all those sorts of things costing Victorians and
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  Speaker 12: it's simply out of control.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I've noticed too that there are so many more
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  Speaker 2: potholes in I would say the last three years, more
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  Speaker 2: than I ever remember before. So why isn't the government
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  Speaker 2: keeping the roads safe? What is the story here?
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  Speaker 12: Well, we've seen fifteen billion dollars wasted on corruption on
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  Speaker 12: the Big build Andrew and that's got a lot to
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  Speaker 12: do with it. Fifty billion dollars in cost overruns on
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  Speaker 12: the Big build. Just imagine if we had some of
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  Speaker 12: that money that we could put to our roads. And
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  Speaker 12: we've seen the last couple of years the government claims
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  Speaker 12: to be spending more on the roads, but going back
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  Speaker 12: three or four years, we had massive reductions in the
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  Speaker 12: amount of road maintenance spending being done. They stopped actually
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  Speaker 12: doing the road receiling, which is what keeps the water
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  Speaker 12: out and stops those potholes from forming in the first place,
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  Speaker 12: and we're now reaping the dividend of that lack of
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  Speaker 12: work over the last really, over the last ten years,
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  Speaker 12: there hasn't been enough going into maintaining our roads.
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  Speaker 1: And whereabouts is it worst?
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  Speaker 12: I often say, Andrew, the easiest way to start a
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  Speaker 12: fight in country Victoria is to say that your roads
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  Speaker 12: are worse than someone else's, because everywhere I go people
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  Speaker 12: say their roads are the worst. Like I said, I've
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  Speaker 12: literally been on the hum and the Golden Valley Highways
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  Speaker 12: the last couple of days and they're pretty bad. But
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  Speaker 12: I know the Southwest in Gippsland, the Northwest everywhere. Driving
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  Speaker 12: the Murray Valley Highway along the Murray today, a couple
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  Speaker 12: of shocking bits that we had to quickly avoid. And
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  Speaker 12: indeed people are on the side of the road everywhere
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  Speaker 12: with blown tires and I'm seeing people as well with
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  Speaker 12: actually having to be put on the back of trucks,
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  Speaker 12: so they've either had such to them a significant damage
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  Speaker 12: or they've blown a couple of tires and don't have
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  Speaker 12: a spear left.
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  Speaker 1: Denny O.
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  Speaker 2: Brian, thank you so much. We'll talk about the engineering
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  Speaker 2: and now thank you so much for your time. But
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  Speaker 2: bad potholes, of course not just a Victorian problem. There's
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  Speaker 2: evidence around Astray that there's a big in reports of potholes.
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  Speaker 2: Now you've just heard about the politics governed simply not
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  Speaker 2: doing the maintenance, no money. But in Victoria, at least
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  Speaker 2: when they do fix a road, now it seems to
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  Speaker 2: me those repairs seem barely to last.
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  Speaker 1: Why is that?
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  Speaker 2: For answers, of course you need someone who's trained as
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  Speaker 2: a civil engineer, someone perhaps who might even be an
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  Speaker 2: expert in ashphalts, maybe even head of the Australian ash
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  Speaker 2: Fhalt Pavement Association, someone who's now headed the Australian Road
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  Speaker 2: Research Board, and that man is Michael Caltelbiano. Michael, thanks
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  Speaker 2: so much for your time. The Victoria. The Victoria I
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  Speaker 2: see has big potholes that seem to be fixed one
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  Speaker 2: year and then the next same road huge potholes opening
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  Speaker 2: up again.
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  Speaker 1: Why is that?
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  Speaker 13: Well, firstly, Andrew, water is the kryptonite to Rhodes and
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  Speaker 13: Danny was absolutely right. We must keep our roads in
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  Speaker 13: quality maintenance, sealed to keep the water out because once
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  Speaker 13: the water gets in, our roads are granular material with
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  Speaker 13: a thin bitumen layer on top. There's no saving them
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  Speaker 13: once the water gets in, so we must keep the
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  Speaker 13: water out. And when when roads are repaired, there's two parts. Firstly,
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  Speaker 13: you've got to patch and keep it safe, so throwing
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  Speaker 13: some ash fell in keeping it safe.
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  Speaker 1: But you must then.
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  Speaker 13: Come back and do the serious repair, digging out as
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  Speaker 13: sections of road, digging down, replacing them, compacting the ashville,
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  Speaker 13: properly sealing all the joints so that no moisture get
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  Speaker 13: gets back in. I haven't seen a lot of that
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  Speaker 13: really detailed repair of the road system. There's been a
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  Speaker 13: lot of patching, and as you correctly say, patching doesn't last.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So what is it they should be doing. What
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  Speaker 2: does it look like this receiling? What's the difference?
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  Speaker 13: We will roads fail for two reasons and predominantly so. Firstly,
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  Speaker 13: more uture ingress under the side of the road, So
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  Speaker 13: if the shoulders aren't maintained and moisture gets into the pavement,
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  Speaker 13: you see in the outer wheel path it's cracked, it's rutted.
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  Speaker 13: Moisture in potholes form exactly as you've showed. The second
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  Speaker 13: mode of failure is aging, so bitumin ages and when
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  Speaker 13: it oxidizes it cracks and moisture gets in from the surface.
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  Speaker 13: The only way to maintain a road is to make
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  Speaker 13: sure you keep the shoulders maintained and reseal on a
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  Speaker 13: regular basis. That is very simple. Maintaining our road system
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  Speaker 13: is not a really complex task.
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  Speaker 1: It's very simple.
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  Speaker 13: The people in the Department of Transport and Planning are
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  Speaker 13: very competent and capable.
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  Speaker 1: People in Victoria.
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  Speaker 13: They've just got to be enabled to get on with
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  Speaker 13: the task of repairing what is Victoria's single largest asset.
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  Speaker 13: You know, it's worth more than eighty billion dollars, the
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  Speaker 13: road system in Victoria.
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  Speaker 2: Now, obviously you say they know the technology, they know
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  Speaker 2: how it's done. It seems that the missing ingredient then
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  Speaker 2: is simply political will the money.
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  Speaker 13: Well, it's combination. And we've got to remember there was
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  Speaker 13: a very large weather event in twenty twenty three in Victoria.
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  Speaker 13: Eighty four hundred kilometers of the network was water affected,
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  Speaker 13: most of it went underwater and the network really hasn't
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  Speaker 13: recovered since then. What other states have done, So if
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  Speaker 13: we remember, your viewers will know back in Queensland in
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  Speaker 13: twenty ten and twenty eleven had that huge flooding event
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  Speaker 13: through Southeast Queensland. We all paid a levee, a national
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  Speaker 13: levee to fix the Southeast Queensland road system. What they
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  Speaker 13: did was they built back better. They built resilient, sustainable roads.
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  Speaker 13: So they combined a two or three percent bitchumen in
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  Speaker 13: with the gravels and delivered a more resilient road system.
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  Speaker 13: And the consequence of that is all of the flood
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  Speaker 13: events that have happened in Southeast Queensland since twenty ten,
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  Speaker 13: twenty eleven, and the road systems rebuilt really hasn't left
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  Speaker 13: a mark on the network Victoria, doesn't you? Is that
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  Speaker 13: technology Victoria hasn't innovated to move and move the dial
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  Speaker 13: on delivering more resilient roads.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think we're talking back to money here.
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  Speaker 2: Michael Caltabiano, thank you so much for your time.
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  Speaker 1: After the break.
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  Speaker 2: I mean this is, by the way, that is a
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  Speaker 2: symbol of national decline, right Australias rich estate. Once after
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  Speaker 2: the break, Labor stabs Israel in the back again? When
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: will it stop funding terrorists? Unbelievably, Labor is again stabbing
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Israel in the back, giving comfort to Hamas terrorists ahead
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: of its national conference in Adelaide. Labor has rewritten its
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: draft policy on Israel, and this new version drops any
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: demand that Hamas disarm, It drops any demand that the
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: corrupt Palacini and authority reform. And that's despite Anthony Albanezi
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: thing last year that those were the key conditions when
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: he decided to recognize a Palestinian state that doesn't actually exist. Instead,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: the criticism now in this draft policy is virtually all
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: aimed at Israel. And as it happens, Hamas did yesterday
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: say it was going to give up running Gaza. It's
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: going to leave all that to the Peace Council that
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: was set up by Donald Trump. Except, of course there's
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: always a catch, and a very big, big one in
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: this case, it is still refusing to disarm. Almost who
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: are Labor Party members? No disarming, so obviously no deal.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: But there's something else that Labor does that shows how
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: lethally naive it's been about what's truly going on in Gaza.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: And I do ask why does it do this?
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: What does it take to make the government stop funding terrorism?
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I asked, because as I've said before, it's he doubled
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: our funding of UNWA, that's the United Nations Body for
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: palisin In so called refugees to twenty million dollars, then
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: added another six million, despite lots of evidence that UNWA
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: has been brought in.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: By Hamas, even hires Hamas terrorists.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: You take Muhammad Abu Alaui, one of many UNWA employees
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: that Israel identified who took part in the October Seve
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: massacre of Jews of Fato Sharif Abu el Amin, who
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: was a school principal pained by UNWAR and also a
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: teacher union official, or he was until Israel killed him,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: which is when the Hamas terrorist leadership said, oh yes, no,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: you're right.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: He was the Hamas leader in Lebanon.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, teachers employed by this UNUA that the Albanizi government
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: spends our millions on have kept teaching Palisinin children to
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: hate Jews and even killed them. The latest and many
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: examples this child.
• 23:01
  Speaker 9: Do go well and Dolan gow I've been much power plastic.
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: We're lucky your more Chindu.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: But surely now the Abeneza government realized at.
• 23:14
  Speaker 14: Last that it is funded terror and hate by handing
• 23:18
  Speaker 14: UNRA our millions. Last year, UNMA finally fired a few
• 23:22
  Speaker 14: staff that had said, oh whoops, yes, Israel's right may
• 23:26
  Speaker 14: have indeed taken part in the October seven massacre last
• 23:30
  Speaker 14: month fired seventy more seventy, but without admitting.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Clearly it was over links to Hamas.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Our money to these people joining me is Julian Lisa,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Federal Liberal frontbencher Julian, thank you for your time. But first,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: you know Labor changing its draft policy to remove any
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: demand for her master disarm.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: What does that tell you, Andrew?
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: This shows there are extremists and terrorism supporters within the
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: ranks of the Labor Party. Labor has always been weak
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: on national security, and now we see why when it
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: cannot condemn when it's national conference, its supreme policymaking body,
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: cannot condemn a listed terrorist organization that we have listed
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: in this country for years. It tells you everything you
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: need to know about why Labor and the Albanezy government
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: are so weak on our national security.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: It is really quite shocking now the Albani's in government
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: funding UNRU, the United Nations Body. This has been on
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: my goat for years now it's funding it despite even
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: UNUA now firing about seventy employees linked to Hamas.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: How can this go on? I agree, Andrew.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: Taxpayer dollars should never be used to fund terrorist organizations.
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: UNRA has been aiding and a betting Hamas for years
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: and years. And what I think is extraordinary is even
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: after these seventy people have been fired, even after there's
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: been a clear link between UNRA and October seven, you've
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: got Labor front benches like Chris Bowen defending the government's
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: decision to keep funding UNRA instead of condemning the terrorists.
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: This is the reason why when the Liberal Party was
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: lasting government, we cut all funding to UNRA. And that's
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: exactly what this government should do too.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but honestly, why does this need to be talked about?
• 25:25
  Speaker 9: Now?
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: You know, hasn't Labor learned from the Bondai massacre? I mean,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: you know, and then recognizing in a Palestinian state that
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: still is crawling with corrupt people and Hamas, terrorists, et cetera,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: et cetera.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, or the area is there's no state. I mean,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: one of the lessons that Labor has actually learned that
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: you can see.
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: I don't think they've learned any lessons at all, and
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: you can see it in their resolutions. Every year when
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: they have a national conference, the resolutions get more and
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: more anti Israel, and they keep making excuses for terrorist
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: organizations like Hamas even after BONDI this is a disgrace.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Now, Julian, I know you're not the party's for spokesman
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: on foreign affairs, although I suspect you'd be a very,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: very good foreign minister. But I mentioned at the top
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: of the show Anthony Albanize's sexist mockery of Japan's Prime
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: minister talking about her melons and the gesturing around his chest.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I find this utterly, utterly extraordinary.
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: You this is sorry, This is conduct unbecoming a prime minister.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: Robert Menzies would never have done it. John Howard would
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: never have done it. Julia Gillard would never have done it.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: You need to see the.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: Context of all of this. It was a context where
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: the Prime minister was asked a question in an easy
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: interview by a comedian. It says everything about his decision
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: making process that he wasn't able to deal with this
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: question properly. And I think it says something about his
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: character that when this was first called to his attention,
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: he laughed it away after it had insulted a friend,
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: an ally and a security partner, and the Japanese Prime minister.
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: I expect more from my prime minister.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I'd like to know with Kata Galla, the Minister
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: for Women is I mean, I wish she's got a
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: lot to say. Sometimes absolutely nothing now about a prime
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: minister who jokes about the melons of a female leader
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: of a very important ally. I would have thought this
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: was something she had an opinion on, but apparently not.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Julian. But if you hear from her, please let me know. Julian, Lisa,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I can't believe this crowd is running this country, or
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: maybe the country doesn't deserve better.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I do not know.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: After the break how Belgium humiliated Donald Trump today and
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: made sure that his appalling cheating did not pay Some
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: good news today cheats don't prosper. Well, one didn't. The
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: US team of the World Cup was thrashed today by
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: the Belgians, for one, despite corruption in the competition that's
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: horrified soccer fans and organizations around the world. Overnight, US
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: President On Trump actually bragged, admitted, or bragged he rang
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: the head of FIFA, the body which runs the top
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: soccer competitions, including the World Cup, to get him to
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: let America's star striker following blogan play today, even though
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: he got a red card in his last game and
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: shoot under the normal rules, have missed this one, and
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: FIFA is so compromised that it did what Trump wanted.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Trump suddenly becoming a soccer expert.
• 28:51
  Speaker 14: And that wasn't a foul, that wasn't even an infraction.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: There was two guys running full speed that happened to
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: crash into each a.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: And typical Trump, he smeared the referee to an audience
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: of hundreds of millions.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: This referee, who is a little bit suspect if you
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: check his if you check his past.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say that because they don't like
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: to create controversy, but very suspect.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: If you'd like, I'll provide you with the past.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: In fact, the referee has been cleared of any impropriety
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: and he was regarded highly enough for FIFA to pick
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: him for this critical game. I hope Trump has sued
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: for plenty and for Trump and FIFA to change the
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: rules for the US team is an utter disgrace. UIA,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: the European soccer body, said, we express our disbelief at
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: such an unprecedented incomprehensible and unjustifiable decision, and the Belgian
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: team celebrated its win over the United States with a
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: picture of the score of its fourth goal and the
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: caption overturn This I was joined earlier by Donald Trump's
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: first White House spokesman Sean Spicca. Great to see you again,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump intervening to get the rid card ban on
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: the US soccer team's best by it lifted and totally
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: against the rules.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: What is he thinking, Well, a couple of things. Let's
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: just be clear on what happens.
• 30:25
  Speaker 15: No one's denying that he made the call to FIFA's president,
• 30:28
  Speaker 15: the FIFA president making it very clear that the Disciplinary
• 30:31
  Speaker 15: Committee of FIFA takes no action based.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: On anyone weighing in one way or another.
• 30:37
  Speaker 15: And if you do look back, there are at least
• 30:39
  Speaker 15: two instances of other countries weighing in on similar penalties
• 30:44
  Speaker 15: that were done to players in previous World Cup.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: So I have no problem.
• 30:49
  Speaker 15: The President of the United States is supposed to be
• 30:51
  Speaker 15: our greatest advocate and him weighing in on what I
• 30:54
  Speaker 15: think was a ridiculous call is something that a president
• 30:58
  Speaker 15: should be doing.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know that one of those two examples is
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: from nineteen sixty two that was controversial enough, and the
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: other one was Ronaldo when thankfully they got smashed out
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: of the tournament today. But does it worry the president
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: that such things have then got most of the rest
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: of the world horrified in wanting the US to lose.
• 31:21
  Speaker 15: Well, look, as I said, his job as president is
• 31:24
  Speaker 15: to advocate for US. There was apparently some whizbang evidence
• 31:29
  Speaker 15: that showed that this was a ridiculous call, and the
• 31:32
  Speaker 15: punishment certainly didn't fit it. I don't think that FIFA
• 31:35
  Speaker 15: frankly cared. I mean, I really do believe that the
• 31:38
  Speaker 15: Disciplinary Committee probably didn't learn of this, but at the
• 31:42
  Speaker 15: end of the day, they made the right decision.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: I get your point. It probably doesn't look.
• 31:47
  Speaker 15: Good for the rest of the world to see anyone
• 31:49
  Speaker 15: weighing in on somebody else, but again, that's what fans
• 31:53
  Speaker 15: and leaders do, is they weigh in for their side
• 31:56
  Speaker 15: or in the case in the case of your Hey, look, look,
• 31:59
  Speaker 15: let's be hos honest. I'd rather have our president weigh
• 32:02
  Speaker 15: in for our team than you're Prime Minister talking about
• 32:05
  Speaker 15: shagging a pop star.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying that was a low blow. Sean that
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: was a low blow. I had no idea filtered all
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: the way. Look, we're embarrassed. Okay, we are embarrassed.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Let's not go there.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: It's just shocking. And wait till I tell you about
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: what he said about the Japanese prime minister. That was
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: outrageous enough as well. Donald Trump has also stepped up
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: his attacks on Italy's conservative Prime Minister, George of Maloney.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, I like her, but last month he angered
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Maloney by claiming she'd begged him for a selfie. This time,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: ahead of this week's not a meeting, he's posted an
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: image of Maloney looking adoringly at the President under the
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: headline restraining order needed, as if you were a stalker.
• 32:52
  Speaker 15: Why does he do this, Sean, Look, he trolls people
• 32:57
  Speaker 15: because she fight back, and she was very clear on
• 33:01
  Speaker 15: social media she.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Went after him. I said it at the time.
• 33:04
  Speaker 15: If you go back and look at my Twitter feed,
• 33:06
  Speaker 15: I said, trust me, you haven't heard the last of this,
• 33:09
  Speaker 15: and I was right. Trump doesn't sit back and take it.
• 33:12
  Speaker 15: He fights back. And I think this is just another example.
• 33:15
  Speaker 15: It's all in good fun though, at the end of
• 33:17
  Speaker 15: the day. Posting memes of people in a harmless way
• 33:20
  Speaker 15: is nothing that's like upsetting. We're not pulling out troops
• 33:23
  Speaker 15: of Germany or anything like that right now.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's just the needlessly making enemies of allies,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: which I think is a big mistake. Donald Trump's meanwhile,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: talks to the presidents of about Russia and Ukraine to.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: When their four year war.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: But his chief negotiator, Steve Witkoff, and I've said before,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I have no confidence, no trust in this guy whatsoever.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: He's met President put In seven times, often very friendly meetings.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: He's never once met Ukraine's Voladimir Zelenski.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Nor is the other.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Negotiator, the chief negotiator as son in law, Jared kush
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Trump's son in law.
• 34:01
  Speaker 15: Why not, Well, initially they had divided it up, so
• 34:06
  Speaker 15: General Keith Kellogg was talking to the Ukrainians and Witcoff
• 34:09
  Speaker 15: was talked to the Russians. I don't have a problem, Frankly,
• 34:12
  Speaker 15: I agree with you. I mean, I think we're having
• 34:14
  Speaker 15: one person lead the effort. So if Witkoff wants to
• 34:17
  Speaker 15: sit down with Zelensky and get his side or talk
• 34:20
  Speaker 15: to him about what he'd be willing to do to
• 34:23
  Speaker 15: put an end to this, I think it's in the
• 34:24
  Speaker 15: best interest of peace and the best interest of ending
• 34:28
  Speaker 15: this conflict. So I have no problem with that, and
• 34:30
  Speaker 15: I wouldn't be surprised if it does happen.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Soon, except General Kellogg seems to be shuffled off the scenes.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: A very interesting race in Maine. Look the House and
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: the Senate very finely balanced. You know, a little swing
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: against the Republicans and Donald Trump and the Republicancers lose
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: control of both or either the Senate and the House.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Tell us about the race in Maine, because this could
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: change a lot of things.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: Well, you frame this perfectly, Andrew.
• 35:04
  Speaker 15: I mean, the reality is the House has got a
• 35:07
  Speaker 15: two seat majority, the Senate has a three seat majority.
• 35:10
  Speaker 15: The Dems are defending three seats, the Republicans defending six
• 35:14
  Speaker 15: seats that are in play, so you have more seats
• 35:17
  Speaker 15: than that.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: A third of the Senate is up, but only nine.
• 35:19
  Speaker 15: Are considered in competitive races, and the one in Maine.
• 35:24
  Speaker 15: I had thought that once Graham Plattner became the official
• 35:27
  Speaker 15: nominee of the Democratic Party, Susan Collins would do as
• 35:30
  Speaker 15: she does every time, pulls out a win. It's not
• 35:33
  Speaker 15: hard to beat a guy who's got a Nazi tattoo,
• 35:36
  Speaker 15: his disparaged veterans, who's been accused multiple times of disparaging
• 35:40
  Speaker 15: women blacks, sexual assault allegations and accusations.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: So I thought we were in a good place. But
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: here's the kicker.
• 35:49
  Speaker 15: The Democratic Party has another week in which if Platner
• 35:53
  Speaker 15: were to resign step down from the race, they could
• 35:56
  Speaker 15: replace him. I put this out on social media, mark
• 35:59
  Speaker 15: my word, dough bi Chuck Schumer had always wanted the
• 36:03
  Speaker 15: current governor, Janet Mills to be the candidate.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Andrew, mark my word, put a pin on the tape.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Right now.
• 36:09
  Speaker 15: The Democrats are going to get their way in Washington.
• 36:12
  Speaker 15: They're going to push Graham Plattner aside the same way
• 36:14
  Speaker 15: they did to Joe Biden, and instead of Kamala Harris,
• 36:17
  Speaker 15: it's going to be Janet Mills at the Democratic nominee.
• 36:20
  Speaker 15: She's much more milk toast, less controversial, obviously a liberal
• 36:23
  Speaker 15: voting record, But I think that they are doing anything
• 36:26
  Speaker 15: they can in the pursuit of power in winning.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Well, we shall see, the fate of America could depend
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: on something as small in a small state like that.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Sean spicea thank you so much for your time.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Andrew.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: After the break the panel.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: With so much going on, let's go straight to the
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: panel joining me Mea Schleiff, executive director of the Samuel
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Griffith Society, and Peter McGarr and former Federal Nationals Minister Mia.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: There was such a huge think about Anthony Albanezi saying
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: he'd like to shag Kylie Minogue. But as I said
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: at the top of the show, is sex ist. Sniggering
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: at Japan's prime minister is actually more serious.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Just to remind viewers, this is what.
• 37:18
  Speaker 11: It was too.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Something I got recently here that was pretty strange but
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: ended up being quite good. Yeah, it was a melon.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: The Japanese Prime minister brought a melon.
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: How did he get that through custom?
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: She at a royal melon?
• 37:35
  Speaker 9: Oh, she smuggled It was a she she did she
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: smuggle it.
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: I got a couple of melons.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: She brought two.
• 37:43
  Speaker 12: She brought too, as you do.
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: She just came in looking like Pamela Randers.
• 37:47
  Speaker 15: She brought to.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Mia schlift. Your response.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: Embarrassing and gross Andrettison's any other word to describe that.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: I'm glad you've pointed it out because I think a
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: lot of the media has been swept up and criticizing
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: Albanesi over his comments towards Kylie Minogue.
• 38:05
  Speaker 9: But the interview was actually far worse than that.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: It wasn't just a one line blunder where he was
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: backed into a corner and was kind of forced to
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: give a terrible, terrible answer to the question about Kylie Minogue.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: It was actually a whole conversation plagued by this crude
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: locker room talk, the kind of type that the Albanese
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: government has sworn to take out a public life. It
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: was only a month ago that he was up in
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: arms about the ditch to the Wish campaign that was
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: being run against c Cinter Allen, saying there was no
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: place for this in public life, and here he is
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: making these comments, and just Cintra Allan, I will add,
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: has also now said that these comments were all made
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: in good faith and it was all light hearted and
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: it was all a bit of fun, which I just
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: think is appalling. And I'd like to remind Labor that
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: the Japanese Prime Minister, she has done more for women's
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: rights than many Western leaders have around the country. She
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: has done more to the protect female only spaces than
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: this Labor government could ever dream of, and they still
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: the ones who are unable to find what a woman is.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: So I don't want to hear Albanezi lecturing this country
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: about sexism ever Again.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Petter mcgowran, it's extraordinary those comments.
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: Agreed, Andrew. You just want to slide under the table.
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: It's quite difficult to speak of. It's so cringe worthy.
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: Never in my life did I think we would be
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: dissecting a prime minister's comments on this basis. And if
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: you look at the tape that you've just played, he
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: introduced the mallons so much so that the interviewer the
• 39:32
  Speaker 8: podcaster thought he was talking about a man and was puzzled.
• 39:36
  Speaker 8: And he quickly disabused it. And Albanezi then takes charge
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: of the situation and introduces what he thinks are the
• 39:44
  Speaker 8: funny and snide remarks.
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  Speaker 1: It's deadly serious.
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  Speaker 8: The Japanese will frown on this very seriously.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't take if any labor woman in that government,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: particularly the minister's ever has a word to say about
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: sexism in the Liberal Party again, I will laugh at
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: them for being silent about this absolutely appalling example. It
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: could even have foreign diplomatic repercussions. But speaking of diplomacy, Mia,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: the Chinese missile fared in the general direction of our
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Prime minicipal as off signing treaties in the South Pacific.
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  Speaker 2: It's caused panic, but I shouldn't we panic even more
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  Speaker 2: that China is overtaking us in all sorts of technology,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: not just secular missiles, not just military stuff, all sorts
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: of technology, all sorts of engineering and innovation, which indeed
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: will mean that it's going to be an economic superpower
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  Speaker 2: beyond anything probably we've seen.
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  Speaker 9: I think it's a huge wake up call for this country.
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  Speaker 5: And I think you're right, it's not just about China's
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: nuclear capacity. It's a show of strength of their power
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: and that ranges across a whole range of industries. And
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: I think what Australia has shown is that we have
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  Speaker 5: not invested in national sovereignty in this country. We are
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: completely reliant on the nations around us. And that was
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: highlighted by the fuel crisis that we saw, where a
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: foreign conflict in Iran showed that we have a complete
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: inability to make anything in this country anymore. And that's
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: partly due to our abysmal energy policy in this country,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: which sees us relying on wind and solar to power
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: the whole entire country, which, by the way, we import
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: those parts from China. So if we're going to have
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: a country whose entire strategies of relying on the nations
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: around us, and we better start investing in those relationships.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: But where I'm worried is we have a prime minister
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: here who, let's remember, it took two hundred and seventy
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: days to meet with Trump, our most important ally in
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: the West, yet spent six days frolicking with communist China.
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: So it makes me worried that we're seeing this show
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: of strength, and yet we've got this prime minister who's
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: kind of showing where he's loyalties lie, and it's not
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: with our traditional allies.
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  Speaker 1: But Peter, you must be like me.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when I was a boy made, not even
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: even if it's young. You know, a teenager made in
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: China was a byword for cheap and nasty. We were
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: priding ourselves on. You know, we got all this industry.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Now look we got about nothing industrially. We're technologically being
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: overwhelmed by China. China is cutting edge. What have we
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: done with our advantages?
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  Speaker 8: Just squandered it, giving it away or taxed it. You
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: just have to look at their electric vehicle manufacturing base.
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: That's swamping all the Western car manufacturers. So but counterintuitively, Andrew,
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: they've done us a favor with this missile chilling as
• 42:49
  Speaker 8: it is, apart from waking us up as mea outlines
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: to the dangers ahead, it validates Australia's position in the
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: Pacific Islands. If any of them were still stari eyed
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: or naive about China, that's out the window. This is
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: a fit of peak credit where credit's due. The government,
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: led by Albernizi and the Foreign Minister have secured security
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: arrangements with Papua New Guinea and Fiji, Solomon Islands, Vanuatu
• 43:18
  Speaker 8: and negotiating others. Now all of them have tilted towards
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: China in recent years or played us off against each other.
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: They're now firmly allied to Australia and this missile will
• 43:33
  Speaker 8: secure it even more. But medium and long term we
• 43:38
  Speaker 8: have a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Mia, I absolutely take Peter's point there. Part
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: of this outreach to the Pacific Islands is today China
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: a footholder. I do note that when he was speaking
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: today in the Solomon Islands. He was speaking at a
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: stadium built by Chinese, with Chinese soldiers who had been
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: stationed there in the stands. Right, so right, let's be
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: realistic about what's happening. But the point is for all
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: that when we have signed treaties with these countries, they're
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: not going to save us from China. The main game again,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: let's me go back to Japan. The main game is
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: a country who seems to treat with the back of
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: his hand.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a treaty is a treaty signing on a piece
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: of paper. And I think also I'm playing it speaking
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: about Albani'si's response when this happened was so weak, basically
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: just saying, why can't we all just get along. We're
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: in a better spot if everyone could just hold hands
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: and sing a song around the campfire together.
• 44:42
  Speaker 9: That seems to be as consistent response is visiting these
• 44:45
  Speaker 9: islands and thinking this will just be enough.
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: It's not enough, and we've seen that history teaches us
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: that words are not enough.
• 44:52
  Speaker 9: This country.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: This our leaders in this country need to get fair
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: income about our defense plan, and currently we don't seem
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: to really have one because we're not investing nearly enough
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: in defense. We have never been less prepared for conflict
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: since World War Two, and we are not investing in
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: any of the relationships around the globe who actually could
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: come to our rescue should a conflict arise.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Nor do we have an industrial base which will sustain
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: us in a prolonged period of conflict should that ever happen.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I mean Ukraine has discovered this is absolutely key. Peter, Well,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: both of you are from Victoria. Does it ever occur
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: to you as you drive along dodging potholes the size
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: of craters the Victoria's are worn into Australia. The danger
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: of laboromics.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely.
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: In the last twelve months, thirty two thousand incidents of
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: potholes or crumbling infrastructure roads were reported on the Special hotline.
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: So that gives you some idea of the magnitude. It's
• 45:57
  Speaker 8: far in excess. In fact, it's almost Queensland and New
• 46:01
  Speaker 8: South Wales combined. And it's not a priority for the
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: state government. They squandered fifteen billion dollars with payoffs to
• 46:09
  Speaker 8: corrupt CFMEU and labor supply firms in the Big build
• 46:15
  Speaker 8: and now of course they're set on squandering billions up
• 46:20
  Speaker 8: to two hundred billion dollars on the Ring Loop. So
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: it's never believe Andrew for a moment that state or
• 46:29
  Speaker 8: federal governments in Australia have a revenue problem. Their coffers
• 46:33
  Speaker 8: have never been fuller from taxation. It's an expenditure issue.
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: That state government can fix those potholes if it gives
• 46:42
  Speaker 8: it the priority to do so. But they're too busy
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: looking after their mates in the union unions, and they're
• 46:48
  Speaker 8: too busy expanding the public sector.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Well, no, wonder mere, the China can invent a car
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: that a production model car that can drive at five
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: hundred kilometers an hour. Couldn't do that here because they
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: wouldn't find a stretch of road where they wouldn't wreck
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: the chassis trying to do that. But anyway, you know,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: isn't this a warning that we've indulged ourselves too long
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: in handouts and fripperies and you know, slicing an ever
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: shrinking cake and not actually concentrated on engineering and hard
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: professions like that.
• 47:26
  Speaker 9: Oh, absolutely it is. And you know things about the state.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: It's the state government's job to fix things like the
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: roads and the hospitals. And here in Victoria you just
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: have one look and see that they're unable to do
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: any of that. You don't need to look at the
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: budget papers to know things are bad. You just have
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: to drive along the roads and be reminded every single
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: time you hit a pothole, or every single time you
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: walk down are the CBD of Melbourne. You see the
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: amount of shops that are boarded up on the front
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: or have a full rent sign on the top of
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: those stores. You know things about here in Victoria. And
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: I've said time and time again the Victoria is the
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: test case for the rest of the cuntry, and it
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: is a lesson just how bad things can get if
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: you're not continuously investing in improving infrastructure and inventing new
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: methods to improve things economically. But I think Victoria also
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: serves as another reminder because I think that there are
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: many parties in opposition around the country who think that
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: when things get bad enough that people in those states
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: will then neglect the incumbent government and vote for the alternative.
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: But here in Victoria, we have had this disastrous government
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: for over a decade, for a very very long time,
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: and there basically hasn't been an opposition at all posing
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: any credible alternative options, and therefore we've been stuck with
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: this government. So I think it is a warning also
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: to other oppositions around the country to actually start tabling
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: alternative policies that people actually.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: True. Peter MCGOMYISHLEI, thank you very much to you both.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: That's it from me.
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  Speaker 2: Up next to this Sherry, hosted by the excellent Jeane
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  Speaker 2: smit first in good Night