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NeNe-GOTIATIONS ARE OVER! | RHUGT Recap with Dustin Ross · Reality with The King

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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Speaker 2: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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Speaker 2: favorite shows from the Real Houseboys in Atlanta, New Jersey
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Speaker 2: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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Speaker 2: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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Speaker 2: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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Speaker 2: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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Speaker 2: scripted as well.
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Speaker 1: Rain drops on today's episode Reality with the King. It's
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Speaker 1: just the two of us. The boys are back dustin rotch.
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Speaker 3: The two of us. That's right, me and Carlos. You
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Speaker 3: can make it if we try. Okay, and we about
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Speaker 3: to try, which is more than we can say for
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Speaker 3: some people that we watched because Vicky didn't try worth
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Speaker 3: a damn.
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Speaker 4: Let's get into it, Carlos, Let's get into it.
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Speaker 3: I've been waiting for a reason to to be able
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Speaker 3: to definitively say that VICKI Gumbleson ain't shit. I got
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Speaker 3: it in this episode. But I'm gonna follow you. I'm
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Speaker 3: a whoa, I'm gonna ride your wave with this, but
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Speaker 3: I just want you to ride Umbleson ain't ship just.
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Speaker 4: Like I said, and I knew this.
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Speaker 3: I had a feeling about this, and I got two
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Speaker 3: examples of why in this episode, so we could continue though.
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Speaker 4: Love the show though.
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Speaker 2: Okay, well does that The beauty of recapping anything with
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Speaker 2: you is it's always unpredictable and I never know.
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Speaker 5: What to expect because that I was not expecting. But
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Speaker 5: like you said, let's get into it, so rain drops today,
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Speaker 5: we right here to recap The Real Housewives, Ultimate Girl's Trip,
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Speaker 5: The Roaring twentieth Anniversary se.
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Speaker 2: Andy Cohen, everybody involved to celebrate twenty years of a
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Speaker 2: reality show. It's unheard of, especially a docu series, So
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Speaker 2: shout out to the network to Andy Cohen.
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Speaker 1: Just refresh you guys in case I'll been living under rock.
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Speaker 2: The cast who are celebrating dustin this amazing milestone is
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Speaker 2: Vicky Bicky from OC, Lisa Barcow from Salt Lake City, Portia,
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Speaker 2: Dianne Williams from Atlanta Housewives, Giselle Kobe Bryant from Potomac,
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Speaker 2: Teresa Udj from Jersey. Last, but certainly not leavest called
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Speaker 2: Richards from Beverly Hill.
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Speaker 1: So Dustin before we get to the recap.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you are not only a reality show historian.
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Speaker 1: You know the Housewives front and back as well.
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Speaker 2: Now that I tell you the six women representing this milestone,
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Speaker 2: do you agree with who they chose as the woman
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Speaker 2: to represent each city?
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Speaker 4: No? No, just going city by city. Porsche.
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Speaker 3: I understand, she's the legacy face of the series. They
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Speaker 3: had already used Cynthia when The Real Housewives Ultimate Girls
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Speaker 3: Trip was already introduced, so Cynthia would have felt felt
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Speaker 3: a little redundant, I think to the fans, even though
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Speaker 3: they had already used Porsche too at this time. Porsia
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Speaker 3: is the leg the leading legacy full time cast member
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Speaker 3: on that show, and so her being chosen to represent
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Speaker 3: Atlanta made since Giselle being chosen to represent Potomac made sense.
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Speaker 3: Karen is compromised at the moment, and it could have
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Speaker 3: only been Karen or Gazelle, So Giselle makes perfect sense,
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, even and that's not I'm
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Speaker 3: not pitting them against each other, just to be clear,
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Speaker 3: because I would have been fine either way that went,
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Speaker 3: had they chosen Karen or Gizelle. I'm fine with Giselle
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Speaker 3: being the choice, but it would have become been down
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Speaker 3: to the two of them, so it made sense to me.
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Speaker 3: Luanne makes sense when it comes from New York those
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Speaker 3: ladies unless they're drinking and you know, riffing around and shit,
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Speaker 3: then then there's really nothing there. And Luanne has a
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Speaker 3: lot of personality she also and it's it's evidenced by
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Speaker 3: her off camera real friendships with people like Cynthia, like
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Speaker 3: they know Luyne.
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: So Luyanne being chosen and out of everybody from the
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Speaker 3: New York Women, it just makes sense for Luanne to
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Speaker 3: be chosen. She's got personality, she fit in. Teresa being
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Speaker 3: chosen from New Jersey, duh, there's literally no other choice.
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Speaker 3: Who has Kyle Richards duh for Beverly Hills the only
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Speaker 3: choice but Vicki for Orange County. I was surprised at
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Speaker 3: I was wow.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 3: The only reason that her her being chosen to represent
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Speaker 3: that franchise made sense to me is because they were
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Speaker 3: the first Housewives series. She was the first breakout star
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Speaker 3: of a Housewives franchise, so it made sense from a
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Speaker 3: legacy perspective. But Tamera would have been a much better
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Speaker 3: choice to me to represent the OC ladies on that trip.
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Speaker 3: I think we would have had more exciting conversations had
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Speaker 3: she been chosen, but we ended up with Vicki.
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Speaker 4: And we got to look at her.
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Speaker 2: This is going to be a weekp for the books,
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Speaker 2: and we have nine episodes to go through this season,
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Speaker 2: so already no episode one is going to be just
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Speaker 2: the kickoff in terms of this series. So I will
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Speaker 2: say this, I think the elephant in the room obviously
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Speaker 2: is the only thing that we all believe. Not to
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Speaker 2: put words in your mouth, I'm assuming you'll agree with this. Yes,
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Speaker 2: the only one that did not make sense to me.
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Speaker 2: And nothing against Porta because everyone knows I'm or just
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Speaker 2: like man at this point, right, So there's not anything
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Speaker 2: that gets Portia. But I think we all know that
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Speaker 2: Nini leagues made represent Atlanta, Like I think we all
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Speaker 2: know that I think Portia of going records saying that obviously,
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Speaker 2: look things have happened. Not to get into that, but
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Speaker 2: that was the only thing that I was like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: it would have been great to have Nini, I think
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Speaker 2: outside of Nini.
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this.
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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this first, do you agree that
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Speaker 2: if you have to choose, it would be Nini to
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Speaker 2: represent Atlanta?
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Speaker 3: If Nini had been in continuous good standing with the
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Speaker 3: network and all all subsidiaries of it, then yes, but
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Speaker 3: she hasn't been in it, no secret, So them choosing
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Speaker 3: her to represent an entire franchise that she has a
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Speaker 3: very storied history with wouldn't have made sense to me.
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Speaker 3: I think that we're all speeding from our hearts when
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Speaker 3: we say, damn, it would have been nice to have Niini,
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Speaker 3: because they would have felt good. We would have We
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Speaker 3: want to see her do well, and we want to
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Speaker 3: see We've all That's been part of the fun of
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Speaker 3: being a fan of Needing Leaks right from day one,
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Speaker 3: wanting to see her succeed, wanting to see her continuously elevate,
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Speaker 3: and celebrating her when she did that.
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Speaker 4: So we would have loved to have seen that.
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Speaker 3: But it doesn't make sense because she has walked away
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Speaker 3: from the franchise, talked horribly about it, all of those things,
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Speaker 3: so seeing her now just turn around and represent it
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Speaker 3: would not have made sense. I do think that it
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Speaker 3: was the right thing to do to have Needy be
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Speaker 3: a part of this series, and I love the fact
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Speaker 3: that the powers that be who make those types of
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Speaker 3: decisions were able to make their let their good sense
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Speaker 3: usurp their personal grudges with her and then re usher
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Speaker 3: her back into the Bravo universe. This way, I think
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Speaker 3: it was the right choice to do it this way personally.
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Speaker 1: No, listen, I think so too.
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Speaker 2: Andy has publicly said that there was no way they
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Speaker 2: can have celebrated this twentieth year without.
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Speaker 3: Her, but they can do it without Kenya. What does
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Speaker 3: that mean for Kenya?
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Speaker 4: Right?
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Speaker 3: I heard Andy say that and immediately I was like, well, damn,
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Speaker 3: does that mean that y'all had the same conversation and
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Speaker 3: we're like, well, we can do without Kenya.
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Speaker 2: I think what's unfortunate is this, I think I think
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Speaker 2: the unfortunate thing.
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Speaker 1: But the Kenya situation is the brit Eadie lawsuit.
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Speaker 2: I think, my opinion right right right, as a producer,
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Speaker 2: a production company works with networks, I think unfortunately brick
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Speaker 2: Edie's lawsuit going to prevent Kenya from being Umbravo until
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Speaker 2: that situation settled.
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Speaker 3: My oka, my opinion, that makes sense. That makes perfect
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Speaker 3: sense to me. As a theory, that makes perfect sense
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Speaker 3: and probably is the truth, right.
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Speaker 4: That's that probably would.
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Speaker 3: Explain it because when he framed it, when he phrased it,
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Speaker 3: that way, I should say, immediately my mind went to
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Speaker 3: Kenya more, did yourge touo?
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Speaker 1: Yes, no, listen, the thing is for.
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Speaker 4: Me, Carlos, that's another one, like what is why is there?
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Speaker 1: Well?
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Speaker 2: I do think the difference between Lisa Vanda Pump and
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Speaker 2: Kenya is Lisa Vanda Pump walked away from the show,
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Speaker 2: did not go to the reunion. She's obviously in good
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Speaker 2: standing with Bravo. She has VANDAM Pump Rules is on
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Speaker 2: a pause right now, but she has she she's a
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Speaker 2: good standing with the network. The thing with Lisa Vanda Pump,
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Speaker 2: which is fine. I'm not the one to trip off
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Speaker 2: anyone's confidence or you gotta.
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Speaker 3: Do you you think she thinks she bigger than the program?
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Speaker 1: Loose oh the ross any thinking the Pump? I think
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Speaker 1: she is the program.
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Speaker 2: I still don't understand why she's co hosting the reunion.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, why is she here? Like I don't why
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Speaker 1: are you even president? Like I don't need you here anymore.
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Speaker 2: She thinks she's bigger than the show, and I think, unfortunately,
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Speaker 2: you know, she doesn't ever want to a knowledge how
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Speaker 2: that show gave her everything she needed.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well that would explain it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you saw Nieni up here with course what
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Speaker 2: were and just seeing the dynamic before we get to
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Speaker 2: the minutia of it, did you, as a fan of
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Speaker 2: the show, feel like, damn, this woman is back and
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Speaker 2: deserves to be back on television.
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Speaker 4: I felt happy to see her.
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Speaker 3: I was happy to see her on a screen with
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Speaker 3: that Bravo logo in the corner in modern times.
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Speaker 4: I was happy to see that. I wanted to see.
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Speaker 3: Her current as current fresh, you know, talent on Bravo
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Speaker 3: and seeing that was made me happy. Hearing her and
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Speaker 3: Porsha have banter made me happy. We didn't get a
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Speaker 3: mind blowing sit down with you know, groundbreaking revelations or
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Speaker 3: a conversation in regard to her history with the network,
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Speaker 3: because it just wasn't time for that. It was a
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Speaker 3: fun scene where she went over Porsa's house to help
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Speaker 3: her pack for this trip, and I thought it was
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Speaker 3: a nice nod to Nini's time with the show. And
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Speaker 3: it's so funny when they put her name in the
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Speaker 3: lower thirds and down on the screen or whatever and
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Speaker 3: showed her time with the show. I had never you know,
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Speaker 3: you think about Nini being on the show and you
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Speaker 3: think about her being off the show, and as a fan,
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Speaker 3: of course, we acknowledged her break in season eight because
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Speaker 3: that's when she had gotten the show to Tell the
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Speaker 3: Truth with Betty White and Anthony Anderson and them on ABC,
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Speaker 3: and she had she was doing something else around that too. Well,
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Speaker 3: that was back in season five.
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Speaker 4: This is in eight.
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Speaker 3: She was doing that to Tell the Truth show and
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Speaker 3: something else she was doing I can't remember. And so
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Speaker 3: we remember she wasn't full time in season eight. She
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Speaker 3: came back at the end, she was on the reunion,
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Speaker 3: so there was a break there. Then we know she
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Speaker 3: wasn't there during season nine, which was actually one of,
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Speaker 3: if not the best season from a viewer's perspective of
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Speaker 3: the show. Then she returned in season ten. But you
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Speaker 3: never really consider that. You just think of Nini as
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Speaker 3: seasons one through twelve. But when they listed it seasons
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Speaker 3: one through seven and then nine through twelve, I was like, damn,
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Speaker 3: her past on the show was kind of broken up.
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Speaker 3: I just you just she hit such a big presence.
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Speaker 3: You consider her to represent the show and have always
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Speaker 3: been there until she wasn't anymore. But there were breaks taken,
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Speaker 3: and I just it was just noteworthy to me that
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Speaker 3: they acknowledged the breaks in their determination of her time
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Speaker 3: on the show. I was like, oh no, so with that, Okay,
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Speaker 3: you know she did take a break. I had just forgotten.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, just something that made me go, h okay, yeah.
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Speaker 2: No, I think it's what you're saying, like to acknowledge
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Speaker 2: the break she's had. I enjoy the flashbacks of her
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Speaker 2: greatest moments. Yeah, and I enjoyed her enforce as you know,
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Speaker 2: bantered there. It was, yes, listen, I I want her back.
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Speaker 1: On House Parts of Atlanta. It's not it's not my choice.
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Speaker 2: Watching her with Porsche, it seemed so easy how they
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Speaker 2: went back here because the last thing we know of
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Speaker 2: her in Porsche is, you know, they got into a situation.
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Speaker 1: They had a little you know, banter on social media.
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Speaker 2: But to see that they were able to like get
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Speaker 2: past that and kick things off.
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Speaker 1: I thought, Nini looked amazing.
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Speaker 2: The blonde was blonding, the hair was great, the body
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Speaker 2: looked good.
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Speaker 3: Rick Owens shout out to head her and there, Ricky,
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Speaker 3: oh yeah.
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Speaker 1: She looked amazing.
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Speaker 2: And she's she's meant to be back on television. This
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Speaker 2: is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King, let's
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Speaker 2: get back into the show. The one thing I did
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Speaker 2: notice though, and I was I was curious if you
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Speaker 2: caught this. I had a moment of sadness for Nini
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Speaker 2: as I was watching her and Porsche when it's not funny,
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Speaker 2: but Porscha is such a beautiful light that really does
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Speaker 2: me talking sometimes I'd be like, Porscha, do you see
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Speaker 2: what's happening in front of you?
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Speaker 1: Like yeah, girls, So like I would kinda and like
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Speaker 1: these women that.
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Speaker 2: Like like like these are women that my girl Nini
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Speaker 2: kind of like came up in the game with.
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Speaker 1: And Nini's face to me, to me, to me, to me,
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Speaker 1: I felt a little bit.
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Speaker 2: Of sadness in her eyes during that particular moment in
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Speaker 2: terms of damn, like this isn't.
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Speaker 1: Me on this trip with these girls.
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Speaker 2: When when when Porscha was like you know Kyle and
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Speaker 2: Nini touched her boos and.
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Speaker 1: Was like I know Kyle and and I love Kyle.
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Speaker 1: That's my girl. It was in those moments where I
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Speaker 1: was like, I wonder for her.
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Speaker 2: Was it weird to get these updates in real time
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Speaker 2: from Porsche, who you consider your little sister on the show,
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Speaker 2: and she's telling you, bitch, I'm going I'm going on
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Speaker 2: a trip with the with the Season one girlies, because
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Speaker 2: everybody on that cast a the Porsche dustin our Season
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Speaker 2: one Girlies. So for me, I wonder if in that
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Speaker 2: moment if Nini felt the reality that was hitting her.
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Speaker 3: Well, she gave up her rights to that shit when
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Speaker 3: she left the damn show on bad terms, you know,
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Speaker 3: to put it plainly, And so I think that that
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Speaker 3: we watched nine eat a piece of humble pie in
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Speaker 3: that scene, the whole scene itself with Shady.
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Speaker 4: When you think about it, you're going over there to
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Speaker 4: help her.
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Speaker 3: Pack, you know what I'm saying, while she's going on
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Speaker 3: this trip with the old the founding Father, Mount Rushmore
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Speaker 3: fucking housewives, and you're not a part of it because
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Speaker 3: you elected to leave the show and then speak negatively
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Speaker 3: about the network, the power players, all that other stuff.
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Speaker 3: And so listen, I don't want to see anybody that
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Speaker 3: doesn't deserve it just be incessantly torn down.
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Speaker 4: Right. I was happy to see Nini.
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Speaker 3: Get next to her glory as Bravo talent in that scene.
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Speaker 3: I was happy to see it. I think that we
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Speaker 3: have to keep our hopes and dreams realistic. They are
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Speaker 3: obviously working through some stuff. And also, let's be clear,
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Speaker 3: this is good business. Nini on that screen equates to
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Speaker 3: dollars for the network flat out when it comes to
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Speaker 3: her being a part of The Ultimate Girls Trip Roaring twentieth.
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Speaker 3: Her being a part of this makes people want to
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Speaker 3: watch it, so there's incentive on their side to include her.
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Speaker 3: And she is now a hope experiencing some healing. Anytime
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Speaker 3: you have a bad separation from something or someone, the
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Speaker 3: healing process feels great once it starts, and so seeing
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Speaker 3: her kind of repair her relationship with Bravo feels good,
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Speaker 3: you know, And I'm fine with this.
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Speaker 4: I would love to see Nini be a housewife, but
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Speaker 4: is that going to happen? Probably not, do you think
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Speaker 4: of plan.
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Speaker 3: It can stranger things have happened, But I think there's
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Speaker 3: a lot of I would imagine that Nini is going
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Speaker 3: to have to fix some things, and that's going to
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Speaker 3: take a lot of conversations, a lot of explanation, a
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Speaker 3: lot of accountability. And I hope that she's able to
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Speaker 3: rise to the occasion, and I hope the network is
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Speaker 3: able to rise to the occasion and offering her an opportunity.
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Speaker 4: I really hope that happens.
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Speaker 3: But I also know that The Real Housewives of Atlanta
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Speaker 3: is on a motherfucking road right now. The cast works
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Speaker 3: and so interrupting that with the hope and hinging on
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Speaker 3: the hope of on Nini just working out and being
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Speaker 3: willing to participate and willing to make good television. That's
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Speaker 3: a huge bet, Carlos, And you make television shows, so
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Speaker 3: you understand all these dynamics you order on the show,
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Speaker 3: and I do too. But you know exactly what I'm saying,
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Speaker 3: We fucked this include her and then she get over here.
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Speaker 4: And sit around or talk shit online, you know what
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Speaker 4: I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: Like, so there's there's considerations there that would have to
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Speaker 3: be made. In a perfect world, I'd love to see
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Speaker 3: her back on the Housewives of Atlanta, you know, but
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it'll happen.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, like you said, stranger things have happened.
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Speaker 2: Some people think it's strange, Dustin, that Kyle Richards is
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Speaker 2: the longest consecutive housewife. And we learned this Dustin as
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Speaker 2: the girls are meeting up and they're telling us a
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Speaker 2: little bit of backstory about their tenure on the show.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, does that surprised you?
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Speaker 2: Like, of all the girlies, Kyle Richards Beverly Hills is
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Speaker 2: the longest running consecutive house housewife wish by the way,
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Speaker 2: Tamra Judge says, it's really her, but that she feels
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Speaker 2: that because she got fired for two seasons, that that's
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Speaker 2: the reason why they want to say consecutive. But when
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Speaker 2: you go through the number, Tamra has had more seasons
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Speaker 2: than Kyle, do you are.
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Speaker 1: You surprised by that factoid?
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Speaker 2: Because you would think that of all the girls needing
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Speaker 2: Teresa Tamra, that they would happen.
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Speaker 3: Well, the key word here is consecutive and reading. You know,
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Speaker 3: words mean things, and so I think when people try
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Speaker 3: to eliminate the word consecutive from that conversation, it's based
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Speaker 3: in ego. Because facts are facts, and the longest running
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Speaker 3: consecutive housewife is, in fact Kyle Richards. That don't mean
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Speaker 3: she means more to the network than anybody else. That
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Speaker 3: don't mean she's better at this than anybody else. It
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Speaker 3: means that she's the longest running consecutive housewife on that network.
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Speaker 4: It's hers. I didn't want her to have it either.
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Speaker 3: I wanted Candy to have it, but Candy quit and
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Speaker 3: so she doesn't have it anymore.
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Speaker 4: Okay, so now it's Kyle's. It just is what it is.
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Speaker 3: When you try to remove that word so that you
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Speaker 3: can now be in the conversation, that means that your
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Speaker 3: ego on a piece of it. And I get it,
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, because it's a bragging right,
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And it means that you
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Speaker 3: are vested and rooted in a way in this universe
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Speaker 3: that is significant.
20:29
Speaker 4: But you are or you aren't.
20:31
Speaker 3: So we cannot remove the word consecutive to include others
20:35
Speaker 3: in the conversation. The answer and the rightful owner of
20:39
Speaker 3: that title is Kyle Richards And that's just what it is.
20:46
Speaker 2: You heard it here first from Dustin Roll. So speaking
20:50
Speaker 2: of facts, Teresa said Dusta that she didn't ask GPT
20:55
Speaker 2: who is the most iconic housewife, and she said it
20:59
Speaker 2: was her. I wanted to see that as well, So
21:02
Speaker 2: Dustin I did go on chat GPT, uh because.
21:06
Speaker 1: You know, as a journalist, Hey, Portia, I just wanted
21:09
Speaker 1: to see it. You know, Teresa's my girl too, but
21:11
Speaker 1: I just want to see it myself.
21:13
Speaker 2: So Dustin, I did ask chat GPT, who is the
21:19
Speaker 2: most iconic housewife Dustin? Do you think they did say
21:24
Speaker 2: Teresa or was another name given?
21:30
Speaker 4: They said Teresa?
21:33
Speaker 2: According to chat GPT Nimi Leaks housewife, Teresa is number two.
21:43
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, are.
21:46
Speaker 2: You able to tell me who rounded out the top
21:49
Speaker 2: five from chat GBT to Nini's number one, Teresa's number two?
21:55
Speaker 1: Who do you think? Five?
21:58
Speaker 3: No?
21:59
Speaker 4: Candy, No, Lisa vander Pump.
22:04
Speaker 1: Yes, you got two more.
22:07
Speaker 4: Nini Teresa.
22:09
Speaker 1: One is white and one is black.
22:12
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know who.
22:23
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll give you.
22:28
Speaker 2: Be to our East Coast one black, one white, East Coast.
22:32
Speaker 4: Giselle Briant. You're warm Karen Huger, Yes.
22:38
Speaker 3: Oh well yep, her recent situation would push her into
22:40
Speaker 3: that stage. Okay, now white from the East. Bethany Frankel, Yep, yep, yep, yep. Okay,
22:48
Speaker 3: that's what it was.
22:49
Speaker 1: That's what it was. That's what it was.
22:51
Speaker 3: Nannie Teresa, Kyle Bethany, and Kani Teresa Bethany.
23:01
Speaker 4: Cancer.
23:02
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I mean, hey, that's a strong five. That's
23:05
Speaker 3: a strong five.
23:06
Speaker 1: Yeah.
23:07
Speaker 2: So look, the gag is, look Teresa in the words
23:12
Speaker 2: of Dustin, but comes up the act it's on the list.
23:19
Speaker 4: The list, Yes, well, listen the word iconic.
23:24
Speaker 3: I guess we have to determine what that means in
23:27
Speaker 3: this case, right, because that that is what makes this
23:30
Speaker 3: conversation have so many moving parts, because how do you
23:33
Speaker 3: determine whether or not someone is iconic.
23:35
Speaker 4: If we had some.
23:36
Speaker 3: Stiff official criteria to determine that, then we could really
23:40
Speaker 3: get down to business. But unfortunately, it just becomes a
23:43
Speaker 3: popularity contest and you argue on behalf of your fave.
23:46
Speaker 3: That's why everybody can kiss my ask because I'll go
23:48
Speaker 3: to war about Cynthia Bailey in a New York minute,
23:52
Speaker 3: and you know I will, and Ebony K. Williams too,
23:54
Speaker 3: and Jordan you have yeah and will forever. Okay, It's
24:00
Speaker 3: just what it is. So we all have our favorites.
24:03
Speaker 3: Carlos loves Porsche. We all know what it is, so
24:06
Speaker 3: we do not get surprised when Carlos puts it to
24:10
Speaker 3: our neck about anything Porscha related, because we already know
24:14
Speaker 3: what to expect that And I hope everybody knows that
24:17
Speaker 3: from me about Cynthia, Ebane and Claudia because I will
24:21
Speaker 3: always go to war about them always, and.
24:24
Speaker 4: Stacy Rush too.
24:25
Speaker 3: If I'm being honest, I love Stacy Rush and I'm
24:30
Speaker 3: not having it about her flat out. Stacy Rush is
24:33
Speaker 3: on my list of Stacey's on the list. She's on
24:36
Speaker 3: my list of permanent protection.
24:39
Speaker 1: Listen, this is for you. Stacey's on the left.
24:44
Speaker 4: Nini used to be an Nini now.
24:47
Speaker 3: To be clear, Nini still is to a certain extent,
24:50
Speaker 3: because I can say stuff about Neini, but can't nobody
24:53
Speaker 3: else say stuff about Nini in front of me. Because
24:55
Speaker 3: I still love Nini. I still love Nini. I still
24:59
Speaker 3: am a Nini fan. I still want Nini to do well.
25:01
Speaker 3: I'm still happy for Nini. I just don't want Nini
25:05
Speaker 3: to get to a place like where she was during
25:09
Speaker 3: the season eleven reunion, during the season twelve reunion, during
25:14
Speaker 3: that season six trip to Savannah? Were they in Savannah, Georgia?
25:18
Speaker 3: Where were you all at? I don't want her to
25:20
Speaker 3: get to that place where she actually like she didn't
25:22
Speaker 3: give a fuck cause Cynthia was crying after she went
25:24
Speaker 3: in about Noel.
25:26
Speaker 4: No when Cynthia was was sensitive about Noel.
25:29
Speaker 3: That's where the shift came for me, and ever since then,
25:32
Speaker 3: I saw things differently. But love Nini, though and we'll
25:35
Speaker 3: forever have Ninie's back forever. And what's for the record,
25:39
Speaker 3: was emphatically happy to see her on Bravo screens that
25:44
Speaker 3: Sunday night.
25:46
Speaker 4: Was so very happy to see that.
25:48
Speaker 3: She looked good, she sounded good, she was exciting and funny,
25:54
Speaker 3: and that's the Ninni that we love, and so I
25:57
Speaker 3: was happy to see her for sure.
25:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I will say being around her, that's who
26:02
Speaker 1: Nini is today.
26:03
Speaker 4: Good a couple of years, I.
26:07
Speaker 1: Talked to her at least once every other week.
26:09
Speaker 2: She's real shit, that is Nini's personality right now.
26:14
Speaker 1: She's she's in the best place she's ever been in
26:16
Speaker 1: her life.
26:17
Speaker 4: I love that for her, and I.
26:19
Speaker 2: Know seriously, so I want to make sure to let
26:21
Speaker 2: the world know, like that's honestly in real life, off camera,
26:24
Speaker 2: who she is?
26:25
Speaker 1: Asked anybody who went to our meet and greets, Nimi.
26:29
Speaker 2: Was grabbing people, bear hugging them, buying shots of drinks
26:35
Speaker 2: for the audience. Like she's in the best I've known
26:38
Speaker 2: her for shit, seventeen years.
26:42
Speaker 1: I will say, who she is now is the best
26:44
Speaker 1: I've ever seen her.
26:46
Speaker 3: That's wonderful. That's wonderful, and that's what we want for her.
26:49
Speaker 3: So yeah, I love Nini.
26:52
Speaker 2: Now the one you don't love Vicki Govlson had a moment.
26:55
Speaker 1: So look Dustin on the boat. You know, Vickie. They're
26:59
Speaker 1: in Orange County. The first stop is Orange County. The
27:03
Speaker 1: girls are there.
27:05
Speaker 2: Vicky, you know, is hosting this and at some point
27:10
Speaker 2: Teresa does talk about.
27:13
Speaker 1: How you know she was going through this moment with Joe.
27:17
Speaker 2: Which, by the way, as somebody who knows her too,
27:20
Speaker 2: I didn't realize and maybe because I'm older, I now
27:23
Speaker 2: get it, but she I didn't realize it was she
27:28
Speaker 2: was signing refinanced mortgage paperwork, which is how she was
27:34
Speaker 2: able to unfortunately get caught in what her husband was doing,
27:40
Speaker 2: which was mortgage fraud. So I thought that was really
27:44
Speaker 2: interesting to hear her say it. Vicky, as you know,
27:47
Speaker 2: is somebody who prides herself on being a career woman.
27:51
Speaker 2: And as Teresa is reflecting on this, Vicky is telling
27:56
Speaker 2: her and the girls that she's going to teach them
27:59
Speaker 2: lessons like ownership.
28:01
Speaker 4: She did a lot more than that.
28:03
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Carlos, she did a lot more than that. Okay,
28:09
Speaker 3: this is the thing you on a real housewives show.
28:12
Speaker 3: Let's get in let's go there on a real housewives show,
28:15
Speaker 3: Being interesting on this show, on a show, on a
28:18
Speaker 3: show like this, does not require you to engage with
28:22
Speaker 3: people in ways that you never would in the real world.
28:26
Speaker 4: Right, That's not a pathway to being interesting.
28:28
Speaker 3: In fact, that's a pathway to tanking whatever the scene is,
28:32
Speaker 3: or tanking whatever the natural flow of the show will go.
28:36
Speaker 4: I'll give you a couple of examples.
28:38
Speaker 3: Think back to season twelve of Housewives of Atlanta when
28:44
Speaker 3: they were in when they were going through Snakegate, and
28:46
Speaker 3: they were in Toronto, and it was like a fever
28:49
Speaker 3: dream because Kenya and Porsche were on the same team
28:52
Speaker 3: going against somebody together and working together, using their brains together.
28:57
Speaker 3: It was it was, it was we were so we
28:59
Speaker 3: were on a high as fans. They finally corner yo
29:03
Speaker 3: Yo aka Yovanna in this room and start executing their plan.
29:08
Speaker 4: What does Marlowe do? She they lied. They don't know
29:12
Speaker 4: who it is. They lied, These people lying in front of.
29:15
Speaker 3: Me, throwing the whole fucking scene off, and it's frustrating
29:19
Speaker 3: to why it's not good TV? Any Vicky did that
29:27
Speaker 3: in this episode when Teresa was telling her story about
29:30
Speaker 3: her unfortunate experience, you know, being incarcerated and how she
29:33
Speaker 3: got there. Vicky literally falls out, leans out, exhales, makes
29:39
Speaker 3: her jaws wide like a bullfit, falls all out, leans
29:46
Speaker 3: all out, rolling her eyes, completely disrespect that you're talking
29:49
Speaker 3: about a woman who did what she did. Teresa committed
29:53
Speaker 3: whatever crime she committed, but like that's I'm sure to her,
29:57
Speaker 3: that's one of the most serious, fucked up terms of
29:59
Speaker 3: her life, having to go to prison and the whole
30:02
Speaker 3: fucking world knows about it. You can't escape, you know,
30:05
Speaker 3: people knowing your business. You gotta be separated from your children.
30:09
Speaker 3: People think you are a dishonest person all this shit,
30:12
Speaker 3: and that's how you're gonna react to it. You're gonna
30:16
Speaker 3: respond that way. That's why Porscha and all of them
30:18
Speaker 3: were like they didn't agree with it. And Porscha, you
30:21
Speaker 3: know how we are black people. We can't just sit
30:23
Speaker 3: by idly and watch somebody just be completely disrespected without
30:28
Speaker 3: them saying anything. So that's why you see Porscha was
30:29
Speaker 3: kind of like speaking up for Teresa because she she
30:33
Speaker 3: didn't like that shit that.
30:34
Speaker 4: Vicky was doing.
30:35
Speaker 3: Gazelle was looking at her crazy. That's why Giselle went
30:37
Speaker 3: and libbed that ball the tamer. Later on, Jaselle was like, Okay,
30:40
Speaker 3: well fuck you, Vicky. I'm gonna get your ass back
30:43
Speaker 3: in some way. And that's what they did on behalf
30:45
Speaker 3: of Teresa. And I did not like that. I didn't
30:49
Speaker 3: like that. And just like Lisa Barlow said, you can't
30:53
Speaker 3: turn somebody's pain into a fucking turbo tax tutorio, that's
30:57
Speaker 3: not what this is.
30:58
Speaker 4: Like, what are you talking about? She did that, by
31:02
Speaker 4: the way, Yeah, she did that.
31:05
Speaker 3: Man, so like I and I just for me personally,
31:08
Speaker 3: I did not like that. I did not like the
31:11
Speaker 3: way that she was responding to Teresa hadn't done nothing
31:14
Speaker 3: to her, nothing nothing, Vicky just in her from her
31:20
Speaker 3: spirit found a rotten place to just come from with
31:23
Speaker 3: that behavior, and she disrespected the fuck out of Teresa
31:27
Speaker 3: in that moment.
31:29
Speaker 4: Didn't understand and.
31:31
Speaker 3: I thought it was rich Loos because she went on
31:34
Speaker 3: to cry like a baby about somebody saying she looked
31:38
Speaker 3: like a muppet and how it made her get a
31:40
Speaker 3: nose job. And we have a whole scene dedicated to
31:46
Speaker 3: somebody tearing you up and man, it hurt your feelings
31:49
Speaker 3: that bad, but you are so willing and easily able
31:53
Speaker 3: to do that shit to Teresa.
31:57
Speaker 4: I didn't like that.
32:00
Speaker 2: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
32:03
Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show. Well, look, I did
32:07
Speaker 2: not correlate the two like you did, but I definitely
32:12
Speaker 2: agree with you when you put it that way, right
32:15
Speaker 2: Like you said, Teresa.
32:17
Speaker 1: By the way, is a sweetheart like Teresa is.
32:21
Speaker 3: Don't starting no be nuts Like a minute she came
32:25
Speaker 3: on my screen. I have loved Teresa Jude from the
32:27
Speaker 3: moment that she came onto my screen the moment. Always
32:32
Speaker 3: have loved Teresa. So I didn't like that shit. I
32:36
Speaker 3: didn't like that at all.
32:38
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't good. It wasn't good. Like the thing
32:40
Speaker 1: is this Vicky Stick. And I love VICKI, but Vicky
32:44
Speaker 1: Stick that gets a little.
32:46
Speaker 2: Bit daunting is the fact that she's self made, which
32:51
Speaker 2: we can celebrate and I love that for her, even
32:54
Speaker 2: when she gave them applications to fill out life insurance.
32:58
Speaker 2: It was things like that plus dissing Teresa as Teresa's having.
33:02
Speaker 1: An emotional moment that really made.
33:04
Speaker 2: You understand that Vicky really is somebody that is self serving.
33:11
Speaker 2: Like she doesn't in the room, she is all about
33:13
Speaker 2: self because at that point is when you do support
33:17
Speaker 2: a woman who unfortunately did And I love that all
33:20
Speaker 2: the girls said the same thing, like what Teresa did
33:23
Speaker 2: is something.
33:24
Speaker 1: As wives we all have done before.
33:28
Speaker 2: Y has always said when Mauricio tells me the sign stuff,
33:31
Speaker 2: that's my husband. I'm not No one think their husband
33:36
Speaker 2: is setting them up, you gee know what I'm saying?
33:38
Speaker 2: Like yeah, And I felt like it was a lost
33:42
Speaker 2: cause for Vicky because in that moment, instead of it
33:47
Speaker 2: being teachable, it could have been a moment where she
33:51
Speaker 2: understood that, wow, there are women out there who do
33:55
Speaker 2: do that, and what can I do to help women
33:58
Speaker 2: not make that same mistake?
34:02
Speaker 3: And also, as you could have just shut the fuck
34:04
Speaker 3: up and minded your business.
34:05
Speaker 4: You didn't even have to attach yourself to Teresa's story.
34:08
Speaker 3: That's her story, and you was gonna get the opportunity
34:11
Speaker 3: to tell your stupid ass story that you told later
34:13
Speaker 3: on that was meaningless. And thank god these women have hearts,
34:17
Speaker 3: you know, And they tried to show you some patrol
34:19
Speaker 3: her show VICKI rather some compassion that she was telling
34:23
Speaker 3: this fourth grade playground esque ass story.
34:27
Speaker 4: You know, you hurt my feelings like this piggy, so
34:33
Speaker 4: I gotta know his jobs, what.
34:39
Speaker 3: Grow the fuck up? And it stung you that damn
34:43
Speaker 3: bad grandmother. Mind you, this is, this is she is
34:48
Speaker 3: so far beyond the point where a playground, you know,
34:53
Speaker 3: ring around the rosies, ass insult would have affected It changed.
34:57
Speaker 4: Your life, and you gotta I knows job.
35:01
Speaker 3: And all this other stuff you probably had been wanting
35:04
Speaker 3: to know's jobs and you probably want another one because
35:06
Speaker 3: it don't seem like you like the one that you got,
35:08
Speaker 3: now you know.
35:09
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.
35:10
Speaker 3: And while no one wants to have someone say things
35:14
Speaker 3: to them about their appearance and things that they can't
35:17
Speaker 3: change on their own without a doctor's help, right, it's
35:20
Speaker 3: just not that big of a deal. But that shows
35:22
Speaker 3: you the world that she lives in, where something that
35:26
Speaker 3: something that surface and that elementary to us, is that
35:30
Speaker 3: impactful to her because she's fake and so.
35:34
Speaker 4: She's not even consisted.
35:36
Speaker 3: She does not consider the lives of other people, in
35:40
Speaker 3: the perspectives of other people in this world. She's all
35:43
Speaker 3: about her lens and what's going on in front of
35:45
Speaker 3: her face. That's why she felt like she could make
35:47
Speaker 3: light of and make fun of Teresa's shit, because it's
35:50
Speaker 3: simply not important to her, even though we're talking about.
35:53
Speaker 3: She doesn't take the time to step aside from whatever
35:57
Speaker 3: the fuck she be on and think about the fact,
35:59
Speaker 3: like you a mom, you got kids, and shit, Teresa
36:02
Speaker 3: got four daughters, Like she went to jail.
36:03
Speaker 4: That's got to be.
36:04
Speaker 3: Fucked up for anybody to go through the same compassion
36:07
Speaker 3: that everybody showed her while she was telling that stupid
36:10
Speaker 3: ass story about Slade. Is this compassion that she seems
36:15
Speaker 3: to be unable to extend to others. And I don't
36:18
Speaker 3: like people like that, So it's watching her do it
36:21
Speaker 3: on TV is annoying to me, that's all.
36:25
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I would have to once again agree
36:27
Speaker 2: with you because I didn't look at it way until
36:30
Speaker 2: you said it.
36:30
Speaker 1: But you're right if if something because.
36:36
Speaker 2: Teresa signing documents that her husband put in front of
36:40
Speaker 2: her as a housewife, Teresa was truly a housewife, did
36:44
Speaker 2: not work, took care of the kids, her husband said,
36:47
Speaker 2: we're going to.
36:48
Speaker 1: Refinance the house. Sign this.
36:51
Speaker 2: Ninety nine percent of wives would have done it because
36:54
Speaker 2: they trust their husbands.
36:56
Speaker 1: Yes, not have compassion with that.
36:59
Speaker 2: But for one person, a man, to call you a
37:04
Speaker 2: muppet that one comment and miss Piggy, that one comment
37:11
Speaker 2: made you change your face and you want people to
37:16
Speaker 2: have compassion for you for something that no shade. It's
37:21
Speaker 2: hard to find compassion for because if anything is.
37:25
Speaker 1: Quite, it's sad. It's not even the word, it's.
37:30
Speaker 2: It's I think about you said, it's kind of elementary
37:34
Speaker 2: that there's one comment unless you tell me all your
37:37
Speaker 2: life you've been called miss Piggy, you believe that.
37:42
Speaker 3: I would believe it if she were to say that,
37:45
Speaker 3: I would believe that for a succession of years, consecutive years,
37:50
Speaker 3: I would believe that she has heard that she looked
37:53
Speaker 3: like Miss Piggy, I would believe that.
37:57
Speaker 4: Would you believe that she had heard that before?
38:00
Speaker 1: I have to see old photos.
38:01
Speaker 4: I'm not going to what I would believe I would.
38:03
Speaker 3: I think it's a I think it's a reasonable assumption
38:07
Speaker 3: that that's not the first time that she's heard that.
38:09
Speaker 3: I think she has heard it for a long time. Well,
38:11
Speaker 3: how long has Miss Piggy been around?
38:14
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm in authorities around.
38:17
Speaker 4: And I was yeah, yeah, so, yeah, I believe it
38:20
Speaker 4: for sure.
38:22
Speaker 2: She's in her sixties, but so it's Spinky's been around
38:25
Speaker 2: for a minute. But yeah, I think to your point,
38:30
Speaker 2: you want to find compassionate about that, and I would say,
38:33
Speaker 2: although I feel sad for anybody getting surgery due to
38:37
Speaker 2: a comment, I logically have way more compassion for Teresa
38:43
Speaker 2: being in a situation where she was bamboozled by the
38:47
Speaker 2: person she chose to spend the rest of her life with.
38:50
Speaker 3: But same situation person talking about something serious and personal,
38:55
Speaker 3: two different reactions.
38:57
Speaker 4: Speaks to the character, That's all I'm saying.
39:01
Speaker 2: The one of the age old questions has been happening
39:04
Speaker 2: for years, and it was brought up on this show,
39:06
Speaker 2: which I love.
39:08
Speaker 1: Is who put housewives on the map. He is saying
39:12
Speaker 1: that wouldn't be one if it wasn't for her.
39:14
Speaker 2: Luyne is saying New York and Orange County was neck
39:17
Speaker 2: to neck. And then our girl Portia said how Alanta.
39:22
Speaker 2: She said, you guys may have opened up the door,
39:24
Speaker 2: but Atlanta kicked it down, took the house and kicked
39:28
Speaker 2: y'all out. Which I'll say this and I would love
39:31
Speaker 2: to get her thoughts. My opinion is this and this
39:34
Speaker 2: somebody that started Atlanta and Jersey. I don't care what
39:40
Speaker 2: anyone says that I'm not being biased. Atlanta Housewives for
39:44
Speaker 2: sure put housewives on the cultural map. Of mainstream America
39:51
Speaker 2: and urban and I think that's what people are getting confused.
39:54
Speaker 2: It's the same reason why Beyonce is the Queen of
39:57
Speaker 2: music is because this black woman domin the white audience
40:02
Speaker 2: and still maintained her urban audience as well. At the
40:05
Speaker 2: end of the day, That's how I look at it. OHC,
40:08
Speaker 2: New York, this is no shade to the show. Black
40:10
Speaker 2: folks wasn't watching OC in New York like that. When
40:13
Speaker 2: Atlanta came, black folks watched it, and the white girls
40:16
Speaker 2: came and watch it too, and that's why that show
40:18
Speaker 2: was number one for ten plus years.
40:20
Speaker 4: I agree one hundred percent.
40:22
Speaker 3: I am in one hundred percent agreeance with you, and
40:24
Speaker 3: you're talking about things that you know because you were
40:26
Speaker 3: there quite literally you helped create that magic. So yes, absolutely,
40:32
Speaker 3: Atlanta made everyone pay attention to the.
40:35
Speaker 4: Other Housewives shows.
40:37
Speaker 3: So the audience that Atlanta brought to the show then
40:40
Speaker 3: went and watched New York, then went and watched OC,
40:44
Speaker 3: then was able to watch Beverly Hills once that came.
40:48
Speaker 3: Those black eyes also watched Salt Lake City. Right now,
40:52
Speaker 3: we were not watching some of us, the majority of us,
40:57
Speaker 3: we're not watching the Real Housewives of Orange County or
40:59
Speaker 3: the Real Housewives of New York. But I remember it
41:03
Speaker 3: like it was yesterday. My sister called me and was like,
41:05
Speaker 3: look at this. She was like, I think this is
41:07
Speaker 3: gonna be a good show. She was like, We're gonna
41:09
Speaker 3: have to watch this shit, and I'm like, what is it.
41:12
Speaker 3: I remember, like it was yesterday. They were at I
41:14
Speaker 3: think the photo shit was done at the Shaun Snow's house.
41:18
Speaker 3: I believe they were outside and like the dresses, like
41:23
Speaker 3: bright colored dresses and shit. And I just remember being
41:25
Speaker 3: like this, look before I had even seen an episode.
41:30
Speaker 3: I just wanted to know about who these women were
41:32
Speaker 3: and and I just I was hooked. And that is
41:35
Speaker 3: what made me watch New Jersey from episode one first season,
41:39
Speaker 3: because I had watched Atlanta, you know what I mean,
41:43
Speaker 3: And so it created an appetite for that.
41:45
Speaker 4: So, without a doubt, Atlanta is the star.
41:47
Speaker 3: Flat out Atlanta is the thing that took the Real
41:49
Speaker 3: Housewives machine over the top and made it the universe
41:53
Speaker 3: that it is today. Atlanta infuse star quality or an
41:57
Speaker 3: element of it just made it appealing overall. That is
42:02
Speaker 3: one hundred percent result of the success of the Real
42:04
Speaker 3: Housewives of Atlanta and that success is one hundred percent
42:08
Speaker 3: result of their cast and for that reason, a loan
42:10
Speaker 3: Nini is always gonna give respect from me, period.
42:14
Speaker 4: No.
42:14
Speaker 2: And the facts are the facts, and that's just black
42:18
Speaker 2: folks in my opinion at large was not watching OC
42:22
Speaker 2: New York until Atlanta premiered, and it may pole go
42:24
Speaker 2: back to watch the others iron people go tuned in
42:29
Speaker 2: to all the things, and even now, like you said,
42:31
Speaker 2: with Salt Lake City, even Rhode Island like watching it
42:36
Speaker 2: because of Atlanta. And that's something that I think people
42:41
Speaker 2: have to understand. So yes, Vicki may have started it,
42:44
Speaker 2: but I really appreciated Porsche for defending her city by
42:49
Speaker 2: by really intelligently understanding the impact he was able to
42:55
Speaker 2: articulate it.
42:56
Speaker 1: And I love the fact that Gazelle set their air
42:58
Speaker 1: her food, you.
43:00
Speaker 6: Know what I'm saying, Like, I'm.
43:02
Speaker 1: Not gonna argue with this, like it's the proofs in
43:06
Speaker 1: the pudding.
43:06
Speaker 4: That's right.
43:07
Speaker 3: Pusha handled that and she represented for Atlanta and thanks
43:10
Speaker 3: shout out to Porsche for that.
43:13
Speaker 4: Well I'm not the.
43:13
Speaker 3: Girl, poor said, I am that girl. Okay, Vickie, have
43:20
Speaker 3: you fucked up?
43:21
Speaker 6: Man?
43:21
Speaker 3: She thinks she can do and say whatever she wants
43:23
Speaker 3: to to these women on these shows and it's just
43:25
Speaker 3: crazy to me.
43:27
Speaker 2: So well, we're seeing that too because even as a
43:30
Speaker 2: getting ready for the eighties party, Gazelle tosses to Luanne
43:35
Speaker 2: and she's asking her like, are you and Vicki close?
43:39
Speaker 2: And she was like no, like we're not close. She
43:42
Speaker 2: kind of has a mean streak. And then they flashed
43:46
Speaker 2: back to Vicki talking about Tamra behind her back on
43:50
Speaker 2: the boat and all the girls like you said, feel
43:53
Speaker 2: like Vicki is a mean girl. And the funny thing
43:57
Speaker 2: is Gazelle owning gets saying I thought I was gonna be.
44:01
Speaker 1: Looking forward to doing it.
44:04
Speaker 2: Listen, love her or hate her, anybody who can make
44:09
Speaker 2: fun at what they're known for, it's always a winner
44:14
Speaker 2: in my book. But Vicky's mean girl streak is definitely
44:19
Speaker 2: something that I I did feel was suffocating me in
44:25
Speaker 2: this episode because it wasn't fun to watch.
44:29
Speaker 1: It was definitely like, you're not like.
44:34
Speaker 2: The thing is that Vickie acts like they owe her
44:36
Speaker 2: something You're not like you you know, like everybody should
44:42
Speaker 2: bound down on her as if she really is like
44:45
Speaker 2: the Diana Ross, Beyonce, Michael Jackson of.
44:48
Speaker 4: This thing she's not.
44:51
Speaker 3: Okay, she's not.
44:54
Speaker 4: She's not even a She's not. I just put it
44:57
Speaker 4: like that. She's not. And so I don't know.
45:01
Speaker 3: I think this is gonna be an interesting ride watching her,
45:03
Speaker 3: because Vicky has one of those personalities that your patients
45:07
Speaker 3: will run thin very fast and you'll find yourself in
45:10
Speaker 3: a peculiar situation. Peculiar situation because you ben cuss her
45:15
Speaker 3: to funk out and then realize you did it afterwards,
45:17
Speaker 3: like damn, I shouldn't have talked to her like that.
45:19
Speaker 4: But she drives a person to that point.
45:22
Speaker 3: So these antics I don't think are going to be
45:25
Speaker 3: sustainable for her.
45:27
Speaker 4: Okay, So we'll see.
45:30
Speaker 1: Well this is what we saw, Dustin.
45:32
Speaker 2: So at the eighties party, the OC Grillies are there,
45:37
Speaker 2: Shannon shows up, Tamar shows.
45:39
Speaker 1: Up, have a debro. You know, Joe, I'm having a
45:46
Speaker 1: brain fart.
45:47
Speaker 4: I don't know her either.
45:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jenna, Gina, Gina, Oh yeah yeah yeah. So in
45:57
Speaker 2: my pinion, Dustin, I have to brown Giselle Kobe Bryant.
46:02
Speaker 4: She proved you right.
46:07
Speaker 3: From day from from the from the from her first scene,
46:11
Speaker 3: she was getting it cracking, she was connecting the dots,
46:14
Speaker 3: she was identifying connections and breaks and all the other
46:19
Speaker 3: ship she was. She was calling out and highlighting all
46:22
Speaker 3: of the things that could somehow be a source of
46:24
Speaker 3: interesting conversation. And she literally proved your point in this
46:28
Speaker 3: episode in her confessionals for the episode, in scene with
46:32
Speaker 3: the women, she literally proved your point. She was absolutely
46:37
Speaker 3: the force multiplier in this episode, pulling Timmor in her
46:40
Speaker 3: bathroom like that. So I don't know if you know,
46:43
Speaker 3: but if he said you she just trust you, and
46:46
Speaker 3: she said that you like that. She literally pulled her
46:49
Speaker 3: to the side and handled that you know what I'm.
46:51
Speaker 6: Sayings and she whispers to the point, I.
47:08
Speaker 4: Don't know if you know, why would you eat?
47:10
Speaker 3: Because she so she doesn't trust you, No, she doesn't.
47:15
Speaker 3: And she said that she is going to let you
47:18
Speaker 3: know when you get that tonight.
47:20
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know, Joe, let's come on like that.
47:23
Speaker 3: That's how she That's literally how she was talking to
47:25
Speaker 3: Tamor in that bathroom. Now, Tamra threw that uno reverse
47:27
Speaker 3: because that's going from OG to O G. Tamra really
47:30
Speaker 3: don't need no help. She took the allue, but she said,
47:33
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna cause no problems with what I'm gonna.
47:34
Speaker 4: Do instead and say, look, she told me this about you.
47:38
Speaker 3: I don't want to fight with you, but I'm gonna
47:40
Speaker 3: tell you she told you so that now y'all can
47:43
Speaker 3: go fight tamor.
47:46
Speaker 4: That that is.
47:47
Speaker 3: That is, that is the experienced housewife going against another
47:51
Speaker 3: experienced housewife. And it made for great tv. You don't
47:53
Speaker 3: know which way this thing is gonna go, and so
47:58
Speaker 3: it was great, great television. But just they'll proved you right.
48:02
Speaker 3: She was Jazell Kobe Bryant for sure.
48:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, she she she delivered and she is what
48:08
Speaker 2: I said. Gizell may not be the fan favorite, Gizelle
48:12
Speaker 2: may not have iconic reads, but the one thing I'm
48:15
Speaker 2: gonna be odiest to understand is Gizelle puts herself in
48:19
Speaker 2: the crossfire so that other people can have iconic moments.
48:23
Speaker 2: That's why she's of course multiplier. Moniques bind her is
48:27
Speaker 2: because of what Gazelle did. That's why moniques find the
48:30
Speaker 2: Iconicnique monique stand for homes.
48:32
Speaker 1: Karen's moment is Jamal coming jamming.
48:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, not that that moment.
48:41
Speaker 1: It just Kansas saying not today.
48:45
Speaker 2: Net all of those face if y'all look at it
48:48
Speaker 2: it's because the Zell doesn't mind putting herself across fires
48:52
Speaker 2: so that other people can shine. So to be in
48:54
Speaker 2: the middle of this tiny booth asking Shannon Tammer dusted
48:59
Speaker 2: like I can't do her in persons like Dustin can.
49:02
Speaker 4: But she's like, does do you hate her? Okay?
49:06
Speaker 3: Because because both y'll do okay, okay, okay, Like that's
49:10
Speaker 3: what she does every time. So it was like, I said,
49:13
Speaker 3: that was good to see, man, and she proved you right.
49:17
Speaker 2: No, it's it's masterful and that's why she continues to
49:20
Speaker 2: get hired. In this moment, I'm watching OC and they're
49:27
Speaker 2: bringing up this moment on the show this season season
49:30
Speaker 2: twenty of O Sea Housewives, and in this moment, Dustin listen,
49:36
Speaker 2: Shannon is saying that they filmed last season.
49:39
Speaker 1: She's trying to move forward.
49:40
Speaker 2: Tamar asked when, and then this is when Tamara went
49:44
Speaker 2: to me below the bell. She says she is good
49:48
Speaker 2: because I'm the one that has a husband, kid's going
49:51
Speaker 2: to college.
49:52
Speaker 1: I'm the one that has everything. I Am not struggling
49:56
Speaker 1: right now.
49:57
Speaker 2: Shanna calls Tamra delusional, and Tamra's said she's not the
50:00
Speaker 2: one that.
50:02
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe she did that. I could not believe
50:05
Speaker 3: she did that. I could not believe that she did that.
50:09
Speaker 3: When she did that, I could not believe it. Carlos,
50:13
Speaker 3: I'm not knowing who I was, Tamera. So yeah, she
50:23
Speaker 3: went there, she went there.
50:27
Speaker 1: She listen, she went there, and now we know why.
50:31
Speaker 1: Spoiler alert.
50:32
Speaker 2: They weren't invited to the finale at Derenda's place, just.
50:37
Speaker 1: Like who wasn't oh t for you? That's not that's
50:41
Speaker 1: a secret. Look, I'll think it is.
50:49
Speaker 4: Well whatever we on Patriot, I think.
50:52
Speaker 7: Talked about it all her podcasts, so so dustin this
50:58
Speaker 7: episode that we just watched the first episode season twenty,
51:02
Speaker 7: my season twenty, but the twentieth anniversary.
51:06
Speaker 1: That argument between.
51:08
Speaker 2: Tamra and Shannon happened maybe three weeks before filming OC.
51:15
Speaker 2: Apparently what we saw was just a smidge of how
51:18
Speaker 2: bad it was because it was going to affect them
51:22
Speaker 2: filming the season of Orange County at Derndas. What's it
51:31
Speaker 2: called the Bluston thank You, thank You, Bluestone manor that's
51:35
Speaker 2: the finale.
51:36
Speaker 1: So all the girls are going, all the.
51:38
Speaker 2: Housewives the big it's a big finale. Andy Cohen shows
51:41
Speaker 2: up Unfortunately, Tamra and Shannon were disinvited because of that
51:47
Speaker 2: moment because they did not want round two that would
51:51
Speaker 2: impact the production.
51:53
Speaker 4: Yes, wow, damn Tamra.
51:59
Speaker 1: That's I'm bad.
52:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, And Shannon is ghetto. So Shannon will like she'll
52:04
Speaker 3: argue and ship like you could, like she's ghetto like that.
52:07
Speaker 3: She don't care where they are, you know what I'm saying.
52:09
Speaker 3: She'll going and get up at the table and yell
52:11
Speaker 3: and walk off. She got that ghetto, you know, shit
52:14
Speaker 3: in her, so she definitely would have.
52:16
Speaker 4: Terror's ghetto too.
52:17
Speaker 3: She don't mind yelling and throwing, breaking the glass and
52:20
Speaker 3: screaming in somebody's face. So they didn't want that ghetto
52:23
Speaker 3: shit at boost on. It makes sense to me. I
52:26
Speaker 3: just hope the ghetto shit is on this season of OC,
52:28
Speaker 3: because now you got me wanting to watch. I wasn't
52:31
Speaker 3: gonna watch it because I literally didn't want to look
52:33
Speaker 3: at Vicky on the screen. So that you care me
52:35
Speaker 3: this is going on, I will literally I might have
52:38
Speaker 3: to watch O see.
52:39
Speaker 2: Now, well, let's see if it actually some drama happens,
52:43
Speaker 2: because as of now, I will tell you you're not
52:46
Speaker 2: missing anything.
52:48
Speaker 1: I will. I won't let you know to watch it, but.
52:50
Speaker 3: I ain't been able to watch it ever since Emily
52:53
Speaker 3: was drinking with that dog. Did you see that scene
52:57
Speaker 3: when Emily was and I can't even talk right now
53:01
Speaker 3: because I'm about to throw up, the way that she
53:03
Speaker 3: was drinking that water with that dog and using the
53:05
Speaker 3: spot eating what she eating with it, her something her
53:08
Speaker 3: and the dog was eating an ice cream cone or
53:10
Speaker 3: something together with the dog, and she was saying how
53:13
Speaker 3: the dog's mouth is cleaner than her. It was just
53:15
Speaker 3: disgusting and I couldn't. I can't watch that. So I
53:19
Speaker 3: have a hard time watching that shit.
53:22
Speaker 4: Huh.
53:23
Speaker 1: You haven't watched The Souls since that moment, not like
53:27
Speaker 1: five years ago?
53:28
Speaker 4: Well maybe I did, look, I think maybe three, I
53:34
Speaker 4: don't know, but I look.
53:35
Speaker 3: That fucked me up. Okay, Emily doing that was just
53:39
Speaker 3: it was nasty. Okay, I couldn't watch that shit. No
53:43
Speaker 3: more so. But this, if we get a Tamera versus Shannon,
53:47
Speaker 3: and if we could get a Tame reversus Vickie, I'll
53:49
Speaker 3: tune in to Ocie again.
53:51
Speaker 1: Oh I would love to see that and listen.
53:54
Speaker 2: I will say this the way this ended with Vickie
53:59
Speaker 2: telling Tamera Gizille's Aposta.
54:03
Speaker 1: And out of my life.
54:07
Speaker 2: One thing we know is Gizelle is not going down
54:11
Speaker 2: without a fight and that. Oh and and we know
54:15
Speaker 2: that her bestie Porsche ain't gonna let her handle that
54:18
Speaker 2: alone either.
54:19
Speaker 4: M M.
54:19
Speaker 3: So I can't wait, come on with to come on,
54:22
Speaker 3: come on, I'm ready for it.
54:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yes, So listen. I thought this was a
54:27
Speaker 2: great premiere.
54:29
Speaker 4: I thought fantastic. Actually yeah, no.
54:32
Speaker 2: The thing is, I feel like they did a good
54:34
Speaker 2: job with highlighting the past iconic moments leading us into
54:39
Speaker 2: what's happening today. Even though Porsche is the only one
54:43
Speaker 2: that's not a Season one girly, I will say her energy,
54:47
Speaker 2: her youthfulness, she adds so much comedy to this.
54:51
Speaker 4: So much.
54:52
Speaker 2: The fact that she talked about not having fingernails and
54:55
Speaker 2: the girls to get.
54:56
Speaker 3: It, and I could not believe she said like sh oh,
55:00
Speaker 3: because you you know, I said, yo, Porscha, it's crazy.
55:08
Speaker 4: That was hilarious, hilarious.
55:11
Speaker 1: But that's why you need someone like her.
55:13
Speaker 2: So the thing is, Porscha doesn't have fingernails because she
55:18
Speaker 2: has to use her fingers when she's playing in the
55:22
Speaker 2: bedroom with Sway.
55:27
Speaker 1: And use that to your imagination.
55:31
Speaker 4: How you want it.
55:32
Speaker 2: So, a lot of lesbians they don't have long fingernails or.
55:36
Speaker 4: They have all their nails long, except for like these two.
55:40
Speaker 3: So you ever seen people where they have like long nails,
55:43
Speaker 3: but these two will be short.
55:45
Speaker 4: Yeah? You ever noticed that you've seen women that have?
55:50
Speaker 1: Like you taught me something today. I mean, it's the
55:56
Speaker 1: reason why I don't have long nails.
56:00
Speaker 4: I can't stand no edge on my I keep mind.
56:10
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I love you love this show. Can't wait
56:15
Speaker 3: to continue. I am, and watching this first episode has
56:19
Speaker 3: made me so excited about watching the rest of this
56:22
Speaker 3: season because I just I think.
56:25
Speaker 4: It's really well produced. I love the include.
56:28
Speaker 3: Whoever's idea was to include all these housewives in addition
56:32
Speaker 3: to the main cast and celebration of the twenty years, kudos, kudos,
56:37
Speaker 3: because I'm excited this is.
56:41
Speaker 1: It's really good.
56:43
Speaker 2: So rain Drops, Dustin and I are going to recap
56:47
Speaker 2: every single episode of this special. So make sure you
56:52
Speaker 2: guys tune in to pay Tronic for Monday to check
56:55
Speaker 2: it out, and you know to find Dustin alonga Claudia
56:58
Speaker 2: and Blue Monday Night for Monday Night Live, and we
57:02
Speaker 2: will be recapping part one reunion of Atlanta Housewives.
57:07
Speaker 1: And Part two reunion of Bail Collective.
57:09
Speaker 3: Yes the hell we will. I cannot wait. I can't
57:12
Speaker 3: wait so good. We'll get to that. Look, we'll get
57:15
Speaker 3: We're not there yet, We'll get there. We'll get there.
57:18
Speaker 1: Yes we will.
57:22
Speaker 2: I love you, brother, and I'll see you with that.
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