Latest / NFL Game Previews / Tyrann Mathieu on Why His #32 is Personal, Prioritizing his Mental Health, and New Orleans Slang (ENCORE)
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- 0:04Speaker 1: What's up people, it's your boy, Cam Jay back with
- 0:07Speaker 1: another episode of Off the Edge with Cam Jordan. Now
- 0:10Speaker 1: as we gear it for another exciting season, I wanted
- 0:13Speaker 1: to reflect on some of the incredible guests I had
- 0:15Speaker 1: the pleasure of sitting down with last season. But hey,
- 0:17Speaker 1: don't worry, though, I got you. New episodes coming your
- 0:20Speaker 1: way real soon. Relax, I got you. But in the meantime,
- 0:24Speaker 1: in between time, let's rewind and play back some of
- 0:28Speaker 1: my favorite interviews from season one. This week, I'll bring
- 0:32Speaker 1: you Louisiana's very own mister Lsu, mister Honey Badger himself,
- 0:37Speaker 1: my guy, my dog, Tyron, Matthew.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Take a listen.
- 0:49Speaker 1: Appreciate you coming off for my podcast, Off the Edge
- 0:53Speaker 1: with your Boy, And you know, I just want to
- 0:56Speaker 1: ask you things straight off the rip. You know, I'm
- 0:58Speaker 1: gonna say thank you for the illustrious Honey Badger. I'm
- 1:02Speaker 1: gonna say You've got so many nicknames. I don't know
- 1:04Speaker 1: where to start. You know, we call you five, we
- 1:06Speaker 1: call you honey Badger, tiring. You know what I'm saying,
- 1:09Speaker 1: T T five Like I'm just variations here, you know.
- 1:12Speaker 2: But three time pro bowler, a man with over thirty.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Interceptions career because he just had a two piece, because
- 1:17Speaker 1: like before the season, I think he was at twenty nine.
- 1:19Speaker 2: We talked about that joint then.
- 1:21Speaker 1: I know you had a two piece and you had
- 1:22Speaker 1: one before that for the Tuddy against the Patriots. With me,
- 1:24Speaker 1: you're sitting at thirty two Tuddies.
- 1:26Speaker 3: Yeah, often, you know, thirty.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Two interceptions anyways, a few of them for Toddies. I
- 1:30Speaker 1: appreciate you just being on the podcast with me, Bro.
- 1:32Speaker 1: I appreciate you just taking a little bit of your time.
- 1:34Speaker 1: I know you're busy over the North Shore. You know,
- 1:37Speaker 1: the man with the legend that went to Saint from
- 1:41Speaker 1: New Orleans lives forty five minutes out.
- 1:44Speaker 2: My first question is why you live so far away
- 1:46Speaker 2: from home.
- 1:47Speaker 3: Bro.
- 1:47Speaker 2: You came home and you decided to move across the water.
- 1:50Speaker 3: Man.
- 1:50Speaker 4: To be honest, Bro, I don't have a problem with
- 1:53Speaker 4: living on the South Shore, but you know, I think
- 1:57Speaker 4: the north Shore man. I got three kids, so you know,
- 2:00Speaker 4: I think that like the idea of like, uh, you know.
- 2:04Speaker 3: Having like the big backyard, big front yard, you.
- 2:07Speaker 4: Know what I mean, nice pool, you know you can
- 2:10Speaker 4: do that.
- 2:11Speaker 3: I feel like on the north Shore a little bit
- 2:13Speaker 3: more than you could.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Okay, I say, I said, come on, come on, this
- 2:16Speaker 2: Kenner need be a Kenner. Bruh.
- 2:18Speaker 1: You could have been a Gabriel and everybody else's big houses, right.
- 2:21Speaker 1: You could have old mettery, you know, with that old money.
- 2:23Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Wherever Drew Liveing and Peyton and the man is in them,
- 2:26Speaker 1: I'm sure you could have been right in that neighborhood
- 2:28Speaker 1: somewhere in Garden District or Lower Lower Garden District or
- 2:31Speaker 1: whatever that is down down in New Orleans.
- 2:33Speaker 3: Nah. I mean that's probably true.
- 2:34Speaker 4: But to be honest, though, Bro, I like, I like
- 2:37Speaker 4: taking in that drive, like to work and like from work.
- 2:40Speaker 3: It's crazy. So uh that's.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Your decompression time.
- 2:43Speaker 4: Yeah, man, you know what I mean. So then it's
- 2:45Speaker 4: a little bit of a long time to so h.
- 2:48Speaker 4: I appreciate that, Bro.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Your your my my cause my cleats Week thirteen.
- 2:53Speaker 1: In the NFL, everybody gets to put, you know, their
- 2:56Speaker 1: own foundation, somebody else's foundation, support somebody else's foundation. Like
- 2:59Speaker 1: I went to Saint Jude Children's Hospital just because I
- 3:02Speaker 1: love the phenomenal work that they do. I went to
- 3:05Speaker 1: go to Memphis this offseason. I was like, Bro, I
- 3:07Speaker 1: was like, I walked around the campus. I was like,
- 3:10Speaker 1: this is like, why don't I do more with this?
- 3:12Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, why don't I do
- 3:13Speaker 1: more for somebody else? But you know your organization and
- 3:16Speaker 1: what is it? What does it mean or was it
- 3:18Speaker 1: represent for you?
- 3:19Speaker 3: Well, my my organization.
- 3:21Speaker 4: I started my foundation, man I wanted to say probably
- 3:24Speaker 4: like eight nine years ago. And uh, you know, the
- 3:29Speaker 4: real inspiration for me was was always my grandmother, you
- 3:32Speaker 4: know what I mean, because you know, in my mind,
- 3:35Speaker 4: in my eyes really man like, she was like the
- 3:38Speaker 4: first person that I saw that like was always like
- 3:42Speaker 4: in the service mod you know what I mean, like
- 3:45Speaker 4: just willing to help people like and my grandmother didn't
- 3:47Speaker 4: have much, but you know, whatever she did have, you
- 3:50Speaker 4: know what I mean, she was.
- 3:51Speaker 3: Willing to share.
- 3:52Speaker 4: And when when I got drafted to Arizona, man like,
- 3:54Speaker 4: it was a good It was a good situation for
- 3:56Speaker 4: me because I was around a good I was around
- 3:59Speaker 4: a group of football players, like guys that's probably going
- 4:02Speaker 4: to the Hall of Fame. But those dudes was like
- 4:06Speaker 4: off the field too, you know what I mean, Like, uh,
- 4:08Speaker 4: you know Kalais Campbell and you know Larry Fitzgerald, Patrick Peterson,
- 4:13Speaker 4: I think fits and Kalai is like one man in
- 4:15Speaker 4: the year, you know what I mean.
- 4:16Speaker 3: So like, uh, those guys were like heavy in the community.
- 4:20Speaker 4: Like for me as a rookie, you know what I mean.
- 4:22Speaker 4: So I soaked up a lot of that game. And uh,
- 4:25Speaker 4: you know, I always told myself like, man, once I
- 4:27Speaker 4: get to like my second contract, like once I'm straight
- 4:29Speaker 4: and secure, you know, I do much more you know
- 4:33Speaker 4: in the community. Uh. So it's kind of worked out
- 4:36Speaker 4: like that for me. But this year, Manu, I chose
- 4:40Speaker 4: to represent. Every year, I choose to present my foundation. Uh,
- 4:44Speaker 4: but this year was a little different because, uh, you know,
- 4:47Speaker 4: lately I partnered with you know, son of the Saint
- 4:50Speaker 4: uh organization you know from New Orleans, based in New Orleans,
- 4:55Speaker 4: and they got a lot to do with uh you know,
- 4:58Speaker 4: black young black kids who uh may needed like a
- 5:02Speaker 4: father figure, you know, maybe they need a mentor, you know,
- 5:05Speaker 4: a role model to look up to. So uh, you
- 5:08Speaker 4: know that that was kind of personal for me. So
- 5:09Speaker 4: it's been cool working with them and uh.
- 5:11Speaker 1: Shout out Sonny. Yeah whatever Sonny's last name is, I've
- 5:15Speaker 1: never known, but I.
- 5:17Speaker 3: Don't think I know it. Neither brow you say that.
- 5:20Speaker 2: Hey, it''ve been dealing with with son of a.
- 5:22Speaker 3: Saint for and I feel bad now eight nine years.
- 5:28Speaker 4: Yeah man, but now it's been cool to work with them, bro,
- 5:30Speaker 4: and uh just meet you know a lot of the kids.
- 5:34Speaker 3: You know, Uh, you know that they've been a big
- 5:36Speaker 3: blessing too.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Son of a saying that that's the last
- 5:40Speaker 1: time I normally since I've been in New Orleans, I
- 5:43Speaker 1: take one of these young bucks under my wing while
- 5:45Speaker 1: they're in high school, you know what I'm saying, like
- 5:46Speaker 1: a big toor mentee program, and once they get off
- 5:48Speaker 1: to college, I sent them on their way. Last last
- 5:51Speaker 1: kid I saw it was, you know, mentoring. Uh, Trey Hand,
- 5:54Speaker 1: his dad was norm Hand played for the Saints back
- 5:56Speaker 1: in the gap.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Whatever got him from son of a Saint. Trey Hand
- 5:59Speaker 2: never let Bro.
- 6:00Speaker 1: He just like inserted himself to the family boy in
- 6:02Speaker 1: college University of Arkansas, Monticello, Monticello, whatever it is. I'm
- 6:07Speaker 1: still talking to him almost weekly. I'm like, hey, man,
- 6:09Speaker 1: are you supposed to graduates a fly already? Bro?
- 6:12Speaker 2: I should have a new mintee already.
- 6:14Speaker 1: He's like, nah, Bro, I'm family. You know what I'm saying,
- 6:16Speaker 1: but that's just that part of New Orleans, bro is
- 6:18Speaker 1: just the community feel is always there, you know, the
- 6:21Speaker 1: family feel. I try and tell people like when they
- 6:23Speaker 1: come here and aren't from here or don't know nothing
- 6:25Speaker 1: about New Orleans, I was like, if anything, the strongest
- 6:27Speaker 1: part of that about this fan base is it feels
- 6:29Speaker 1: like a real family, Like they when you hurting, they hurting.
- 6:33Speaker 1: You know, they tell you straight up on the streets
- 6:35Speaker 1: like hey, when we win, you know, when we win,
- 6:37Speaker 1: it's good in the city. And when the Saints lose,
- 6:41Speaker 1: crime goes up. Black Air Force energy comes out.
- 6:45Speaker 3: Quick right right, speaking of being Look.
- 6:49Speaker 2: Why do we call you five?
- 6:50Speaker 3: You?
- 6:51Speaker 1: You was like seven the l s U when it
- 6:53Speaker 1: was a prime number was thirty two in Arizona and
- 6:57Speaker 1: in Houston, knas city for show with thirty Yeah, hey
- 7:01Speaker 1: you for show thirty two? Here where five come from?
- 7:03Speaker 2: And wild like.
- 7:05Speaker 4: So so five, so so five. I don't think I've
- 7:08Speaker 4: ever really told the story. So five actually comes from,
- 7:12Speaker 4: uh it has. It has a lot to do with
- 7:14Speaker 4: my grandmother. So most if you ask any most people
- 7:19Speaker 4: and you ask me, hey, what time is from, most
- 7:20Speaker 4: people will probably say the seven War War, and they're
- 7:24Speaker 4: right right, because there's like a catch, you know, like
- 7:28Speaker 4: like my first couple of years on Earth, I live
- 7:32Speaker 4: twenty nine thirty Orleans Avenue, which is the fifth Ward.
- 7:36Speaker 3: Now, the people that know me, they know that.
- 7:39Speaker 4: So that's kind of like where a five come from,
- 7:42Speaker 4: you know, because I'm like a seventh Ward dude. But
- 7:45Speaker 4: everybody know, like, man, he might really be from the
- 7:48Speaker 4: fifth Wark. That's where grandma. That's where Grandma lived.
- 7:52Speaker 3: So people say, okay, yeah.
- 7:54Speaker 4: That's where the five come from. And that's actually where
- 7:56Speaker 4: my jersey number come from two so uh you know
- 8:00Speaker 4: to plus two and so uh yeah, man, that's like,
- 8:04Speaker 4: uh what is that like a history lesson?
- 8:07Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 8:08Speaker 2: Man?
- 8:08Speaker 1: Man, and here and here, I'm like, yeah, that boy
- 8:11Speaker 1: really from the seventh line, and say, you know, right right,
- 8:14Speaker 1: defense dinner, you take us out to the seventh Ward,
- 8:16Speaker 1: you know, you take the whole defense to the seventh Ward.
- 8:18Speaker 2: I'm like, man, he's just showing love to his people's
- 8:21Speaker 2: from the fifth.
- 8:22Speaker 3: Ward, right Man, I'm.
- 8:26Speaker 1: In the locker room like, I'm like, T, you don't
- 8:27Speaker 1: be answer to the T. I'm like, five, turn right around.
- 8:32Speaker 2: That's crazy.
- 8:33Speaker 1: I mean, we we talked about the locker room too,
- 8:35Speaker 1: but you was like earlier this season, Bro, you had
- 8:38Speaker 1: one interception and you were like, man, I was like
- 8:40Speaker 1: I gotta turn, I gotta pick up my pants.
- 8:41Speaker 2: But like I ain't never not let the team interceptions.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Then you then you.
- 8:45Speaker 1: Had that two piece right and like you like you're
- 8:48Speaker 1: right on time now, Like where did that come from?
- 8:50Speaker 2: And what you see for the rest of these last
- 8:52Speaker 2: five games five?
- 8:53Speaker 4: To be honest, Bro, Man, I just see uh and
- 8:58Speaker 4: not just me, Bro, but I see all us like, uh,
- 9:02Speaker 4: like just doing whatever it take to win, Bro.
- 9:05Speaker 3: And I mean you know how it.
- 9:06Speaker 4: Is on the defense side of the ball, Like you know,
- 9:09Speaker 4: the more the more you can take the ball away, bro,
- 9:12Speaker 4: and uh, you know, especially like in you know, late
- 9:15Speaker 4: November December, you know, going into the playoffs, like you
- 9:19Speaker 4: want to you want to be able to you know,
- 9:21Speaker 4: take the ball away and kind of help that, you know,
- 9:23Speaker 4: help you build momentum bro, and confidence. So I think defensively, Bro,
- 9:28Speaker 4: like that's like the model for I mean even you
- 9:31Speaker 4: like if somebody asked, Hey, do you want to just
- 9:33Speaker 4: sack the quarterback or do you want to sack and
- 9:35Speaker 4: take the ball from him? I want the whole I
- 9:39Speaker 4: want the hat trick. You know what I'm saying, like
- 9:41Speaker 4: the fumble animal recovery.
- 9:43Speaker 2: You know, need it?
- 9:44Speaker 3: Yeah, Bro?
- 9:45Speaker 4: So uh man, just I just see all of us
- 9:48Speaker 4: manager's just just playing way more uh you know, aggressive,
- 9:52Speaker 4: you know, hungrier, you know, just trying to do whatever
- 9:56Speaker 4: it takes.
- 9:56Speaker 3: Bro. Right, you're right.
- 9:58Speaker 1: See See that's like when you have to an interception game.
- 10:00Speaker 1: They were like, oh it's vintage Tyre Matthews.
- 10:03Speaker 2: I was like vintage boy eating what vintage said, like
- 10:06Speaker 2: he oh what, what's what's up with this vintage part?
- 10:10Speaker 3: You know how I get, Bro, when you get over thirty.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Bro, you know, man, I hear you, but I don't
- 10:16Speaker 1: if I don't see no slow down, I don't hear you.
- 10:19Speaker 1: I'm over here looking like man. If they always if
- 10:22Speaker 1: they're already quick to be like he older, all right,
- 10:25Speaker 1: we'll tell some of these young boys to start out
- 10:26Speaker 1: working them. You know what I'm saying, Like that makes
- 10:29Speaker 1: everybody else elevate, if you know, if you know what
- 10:31Speaker 1: you're doing, Shoot, make them young.
- 10:33Speaker 2: Put the young bucks pressure on one time. We gotta
- 10:36Speaker 2: make we gotta make.
- 10:37Speaker 3: Them step up too, for sure, no doubt.
- 10:39Speaker 1: Tell me about the leadership in the dB room, because
- 10:41Speaker 1: you know me, you know what I'm saying, Like w's loud,
- 10:45Speaker 1: I'm overly loud and active in the team. And then
- 10:47Speaker 1: you bring up your leadership, you know, to to the
- 10:49Speaker 1: to the dbs, which I've always said, dvs in every
- 10:52Speaker 1: every team ever, just I swear they don't like each other,
- 10:55Speaker 1: like in my mind, like D line, you're always gonna
- 10:58Speaker 1: be like the closest knit right, Like any team I've
- 11:01Speaker 1: ever been on, the D line hangs out together. Right,
- 11:04Speaker 1: we hang out every Thursday, win, lose a draw. You know,
- 11:07Speaker 1: if the even if the defense don't hang out, the
- 11:09Speaker 1: defensive line is gonna hang out.
- 11:10Speaker 4: Well you know how it is on the back end,
- 11:12Speaker 4: brows on the island. Yeah, but too, bro, A lot
- 11:16Speaker 4: of us we're supposed to play like offense.
- 11:19Speaker 3: We just we just weren't good enough.
- 11:22Speaker 4: So I don't know if you you know, I don't
- 11:24Speaker 4: know if we got a living in that d but
- 11:26Speaker 4: you know, and you know what I mean, we think
- 11:28Speaker 4: it's all you know, that that prime time syndrome, you
- 11:31Speaker 4: know what I mean? Uh, But nah, Bro, I think
- 11:35Speaker 4: I think we got a good dB room, right, you know,
- 11:39Speaker 4: we got some dudes that could that could really play
- 11:41Speaker 4: you know I think for me, bro, uh, you know
- 11:44Speaker 4: every day knowing like I got like a young dB room.
- 11:48Speaker 4: It's just being consistent, like showing those dudes with a
- 11:51Speaker 4: consistent pro look like you know, in meetings, you know
- 11:56Speaker 4: obviously on the field, just just trying to take care
- 11:59Speaker 4: of my and it's the right way, knowing that even
- 12:03Speaker 4: if those do not necessarily asking me for advice, a
- 12:06Speaker 4: lot of them are watching me right right. So I
- 12:09Speaker 4: mean that's how some people learn too. They don't necessarily
- 12:11Speaker 4: communicate with you. They they can watch what you do
- 12:14Speaker 4: and watch how you act, and you know what I mean,
- 12:16Speaker 4: like it can kind of shape their perspective or you know,
- 12:20Speaker 4: their direction. So I just try to be like a
- 12:23Speaker 4: like a sound person for one, bro, like.
- 12:24Speaker 3: A sound of mine. Uh. I try to try to
- 12:28Speaker 3: tell them the truth, you know what I mean all the.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Time, keeping shoot shooting buck at all times for sure.
- 12:34Speaker 3: Bro.
- 12:34Speaker 2: And Bro, you do you do it as.
- 12:36Speaker 1: Such like a calm demeanor, Bro, like you so level
- 12:39Speaker 1: in the room, Like I'd be like, I'm like, Bro,
- 12:41Speaker 1: I don't know how to shake, because you know me,
- 12:42Speaker 1: I'll be out there shaking the room up. I'm come,
- 12:44Speaker 1: I'm come to like no this is what we're doing,
- 12:45Speaker 1: this how we're doing it, This is what we're going
- 12:47Speaker 1: to do. This is where we're going. Like it's a response,
- 12:49Speaker 1: you'll be like, man, that ain't right. The boys just
- 12:52Speaker 1: be like he's saying that.
- 12:55Speaker 3: You mean this? Yeah for sure, bro?
- 12:58Speaker 4: And you know, like I said, I think a lot
- 13:00Speaker 4: of that got to do with like you know, each
- 13:02Speaker 4: and other day that they're gonna get the same time,
- 13:04Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
- 13:05Speaker 3: Like, so they could come on.
- 13:07Speaker 1: That consistency, which is crazy, brocause like when you came
- 13:10Speaker 1: in to leave, Bro, you had vets, like you know,
- 13:12Speaker 1: Pat p was your dog from LSU, you know, over
- 13:16Speaker 1: over at the Cardinals. But you know, I feel like
- 13:19Speaker 1: you could relate so much more to these guys because
- 13:22Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, I was the first rounder.
- 13:24Speaker 2: You were you know, you were coming from LSU.
- 13:27Speaker 1: You were that guy. And then you face some adversity
- 13:30Speaker 1: over LSU. You know what I'm saying, You had obstions
- 13:32Speaker 1: to overcome. They try to hit you with that like
- 13:34Speaker 1: troubled the troubled youth syndrome or something. So you fell
- 13:38Speaker 1: a couple of rounds into the draft, right, But Bro,
- 13:42Speaker 1: your your story about you being consistent just like elevating
- 13:45Speaker 1: your play every year. Like I feel like some of
- 13:47Speaker 1: these guys don't really know what you've done and what
- 13:50Speaker 1: you've accomplished, bro. So like when you're cool, call them
- 13:53Speaker 1: to me and I'm like, bro, these like these boys
- 13:54Speaker 1: are taking it for what it is, Like this is
- 13:55Speaker 1: tyring now.
- 13:56Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, if you tell them the.
- 13:58Speaker 1: Real like how you started off, everybody was really accounted
- 14:01Speaker 1: you out, but you was just too cold to be
- 14:03Speaker 1: counted out, right, Like I feel like that would be
- 14:05Speaker 1: that would hit home for some of these knuckleheads.
- 14:08Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 14:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, bro, like y'all don't know what you
- 14:12Speaker 1: got in this room right here, and you bro, you
- 14:14Speaker 1: so humble like you don't even mention it. I'm like,
- 14:17Speaker 1: just like he used to war number seven LSU like
- 14:19Speaker 1: he was that guy like you can there's only one
- 14:21Speaker 1: of them, Like there's a playmaker in the work.
- 14:23Speaker 2: Number seven. You know you come into the league.
- 14:25Speaker 1: He was punk returner doing like playing playing that little
- 14:28Speaker 1: you know that roam around boys out there getting really
- 14:31Speaker 1: active like they know you from Kansas City years.
- 14:34Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, like look at his body of work.
- 14:36Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Bro.
- 14:37Speaker 1: You gotta tell him like I like, I'm like, I
- 14:39Speaker 1: tell him like it used to be so even consistent.
- 14:43Speaker 2: Bro, It's crazy, man.
- 14:45Speaker 3: I just I mean, like I said, Bro, I don't really.
- 14:50Speaker 4: You know, I don't try to be nothing special, you know,
- 14:54Speaker 4: you know I definitely don't try to uh force anything.
- 14:58Speaker 3: You know, body, you know what I mean? And so
- 15:00Speaker 3: uh man, some dudes come.
- 15:02Speaker 4: Around earlier, right, like you know, you may you know,
- 15:05Speaker 4: we may sign a dude with tomorrow, right and he
- 15:07Speaker 4: may gravitate towards me and ask me like, you know, man.
- 15:10Speaker 3: How you did it? Right?
- 15:11Speaker 4: Like like how you how you stuck around so long?
- 15:13Speaker 4: And and then you know, other guys, it may take
- 15:16Speaker 4: him a while, you know what I mean, to come
- 15:18Speaker 4: around and you know, ask like those real questions.
- 15:39Speaker 1: I always I've always talked about it on this podcast
- 15:41Speaker 1: or whatever, like it just brings me back to you,
- 15:43Speaker 1: of course, like that business side of football, even like
- 15:45Speaker 1: you though you play for the home team now, like
- 15:48Speaker 1: I remember, we we copped you, you know, we copt
- 15:49Speaker 1: you off free agency?
- 15:51Speaker 2: What does that free agency feel like? You know what
- 15:52Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, what does what does that feel like?
- 15:54Speaker 1: In terms of being at a team, and like when
- 15:58Speaker 1: you came to us from from can't see, Like, Bro,
- 16:00Speaker 1: you they didn't even offer you Like did that add
- 16:03Speaker 1: a chip on your shoulder? Like how did it make
- 16:04Speaker 1: you feel? How are you like, you know, how did
- 16:06Speaker 1: that change your mindset? And if it did at all?
- 16:09Speaker 3: Man?
- 16:09Speaker 4: To be honest, bro, I think for some dudes, freegency
- 16:12Speaker 4: is right, Like, I mean, it's probably like one of
- 16:15Speaker 4: the best moments of their life, you know. Uh, you
- 16:18Speaker 4: know a lot of them going to you know, sign
- 16:21Speaker 4: you know pretty good, you know contracts, you know what
- 16:24Speaker 4: I mean.
- 16:24Speaker 3: And I think for other players it's different.
- 16:28Speaker 4: You know, for me, for example, right, and I mean
- 16:33Speaker 4: we was kind of talking about it earlier right in
- 16:35Speaker 4: the show. I've always felt h a responsibility to like
- 16:40Speaker 4: the communities I played in, and so.
- 16:44Speaker 3: You know, most players don't.
- 16:47Speaker 4: Do it right, right, Like most guys aren't invested outside
- 16:51Speaker 4: of the defensive meeting, you know what I mean.
- 16:55Speaker 2: Going home and like like nothing else exists.
- 16:58Speaker 1: You know, all these all these schools out here, all
- 17:00Speaker 1: these people that you could like touch effect, be around,
- 17:02Speaker 1: learn your community, do all this like anyways.
- 17:05Speaker 4: But you know, uh, not for me, Like it was
- 17:07Speaker 4: tough because like I didn't know I was going to
- 17:12Speaker 4: the Saints. I didn't know, like I didn't know the
- 17:14Speaker 4: situation that was like waiting for me, right.
- 17:16Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:16Speaker 4: So you know when you when you like have those
- 17:21Speaker 4: type of you know, uh moments like where man, you're like,
- 17:25Speaker 4: damn you like, bro, I just sacrificed three yearss like
- 17:28Speaker 4: I gave everything I could, you know, to whatever organization,
- 17:33Speaker 4: right and so and then it's.
- 17:35Speaker 3: Time for you to move on, right.
- 17:38Speaker 4: And for some players it's easy to move on, you
- 17:41Speaker 4: know what I mean, like they don't really care. And
- 17:42Speaker 4: I think for other players, which is a small percentage,
- 17:45Speaker 4: like like they wear that, you know what I mean,
- 17:49Speaker 4: and so uh. But the blessing in my situation was,
- 17:53Speaker 4: you know, even though it took me a while, you know,
- 17:56Speaker 4: to kind of get over you know, damn, I an'tbody
- 18:00Speaker 4: be a chief no more. And you know, I got
- 18:01Speaker 4: kids that you know, like love the chiefs and you know,
- 18:05Speaker 4: and you know, I got a family, like you know
- 18:07Speaker 4: what I mean, like like this this is our home
- 18:09Speaker 4: right and you know, now you got to pick up
- 18:11Speaker 4: and move. So it's a lot of those type of
- 18:14Speaker 4: you know, conversations and you know issues.
- 18:17Speaker 3: You gotta kind of iron out.
- 18:20Speaker 4: But but the blessing for me was, man, like, you know,
- 18:24Speaker 4: like I got a chance to come back home. You know,
- 18:26Speaker 4: I got a chance to come back to the crib. So,
- 18:29Speaker 4: you know, as bad as it kind of stunk for me,
- 18:31Speaker 4: like damn, you know, I ain't gonna be a part
- 18:33Speaker 4: of that no more, but you know, you never know
- 18:35Speaker 4: that what God got waiting on you.
- 18:37Speaker 2: So to the crew we go.
- 18:39Speaker 4: That was a blessing for me, bro. But but some dudes, man, like,
- 18:43Speaker 4: they don't have that, you know, you.
- 18:45Speaker 1: Know, we signed you and then I was like, all right, cool,
- 18:48Speaker 1: and then you didn't show up to the training camp
- 18:50Speaker 1: and I was.
- 18:50Speaker 2: Like, hey, what what the hell did happen? They're like
- 18:53Speaker 2: and he was like, yeah, he said, he's having some family.
- 18:56Speaker 1: She's like, you just had to get your mind right
- 18:57Speaker 1: from that, Like I never asked, and I've always wondered,
- 18:59Speaker 1: like right, like, I was like, man, he come home.
- 19:02Speaker 1: You got to make sure. You got to make sure
- 19:04Speaker 1: everybody everybody knows he here for business and not pleasure.
- 19:07Speaker 3: Right, And man, that was that was important for me. Bro.
- 19:10Speaker 4: You know, you know, I've been in the league long enough.
- 19:13Speaker 4: You know, I've done a lot of good things, right,
- 19:16Speaker 4: and you know, I felt like I had kind of
- 19:19Speaker 4: earned that grace right to be able to take that
- 19:24Speaker 4: time right because you see dudes that don't take the
- 19:26Speaker 4: time right. And then after a while, you like, now
- 19:30Speaker 4: what happened to him? Like like why why? Why is
- 19:34Speaker 4: it like that with him?
- 19:35Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
- 19:35Speaker 4: And it could be you know, him getting in trouble,
- 19:37Speaker 4: It could be it could be a bunch of different.
- 19:39Speaker 3: Things, you know what I mean.
- 19:41Speaker 4: And so for me, man, you you try to avoid
- 19:44Speaker 4: that because you know when you when you lock in
- 19:47Speaker 4: on the football season, like that that's important, you know
- 19:50Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like like that's what's putting food on
- 19:52Speaker 4: the table, Like that's what's allowing with your kids to
- 19:55Speaker 4: travel the world and right, so like you won't be
- 19:59Speaker 4: all in right, like you on half of your mind
- 20:01Speaker 4: to be on football and then the other half you
- 20:05Speaker 4: worrying about all these different things that that's kind of
- 20:08Speaker 4: going on outside of it.
- 20:09Speaker 3: So but yeah, bro, like like like that's what happened.
- 20:13Speaker 2: I was like I've been waiting. I was like we
- 20:15Speaker 2: talked that, Like I was like you're like, man, I'm
- 20:17Speaker 2: good now. I was like, good now, what the hell
- 20:19Speaker 2: that means?
- 20:20Speaker 1: Like all right, and then we got to see you've
- 20:22Speaker 1: been locked in forever from them, and you know, the
- 20:24Speaker 1: second year with the team, you know, three interceptions in.
- 20:27Speaker 2: I'm like, Bro, he's gonna finish with six. I don't care.
- 20:29Speaker 2: I'm calling it bro.
- 20:30Speaker 1: So that being said, Bro, everything that you you know
- 20:33Speaker 1: you've done, city, city, community, community with your foundation, team
- 20:36Speaker 1: up with son of son of a saint leads you
- 20:39Speaker 1: to you know, now being told you know you're the
- 20:42Speaker 1: Saints Walter Payton Man of the Year. Uh, you know
- 20:45Speaker 1: Canada in for New Orleans? Like how does that make
- 20:48Speaker 1: you feel? Just feel different than anywhere else? Does it
- 20:50Speaker 1: feel different because it's hometown and you you like you
- 20:53Speaker 1: really got the key to the city, Like yeah.
- 20:55Speaker 2: Bro, seven seven war five man.
- 20:58Speaker 4: Because you know, really, Bro, like that that's that's that's
- 21:00Speaker 4: why I did it, you know what I mean?
- 21:03Speaker 3: You know that that's why you do the right things.
- 21:06Speaker 4: That's that's why you know, you try to get your
- 21:08Speaker 4: life on track. It wasn't for like people that didn't
- 21:12Speaker 4: know me, right, you know what I'm saying, Like, like,
- 21:15Speaker 4: you don't try to put together a successful life or
- 21:17Speaker 4: a successful career for people that don't know you, right,
- 21:21Speaker 4: You want people that do know you to be proud
- 21:23Speaker 4: of you, you know what I mean. And so like
- 21:27Speaker 4: like I say that to say, bro, like my motivation
- 21:30Speaker 4: has always been New Orleans, right, and like trying to
- 21:34Speaker 4: make my people proud, and you know, trying to make
- 21:36Speaker 4: my family proud.
- 21:37Speaker 3: And you know, like my grandmother not here no more,
- 21:40Speaker 3: but like I knew she would be you know, like
- 21:44Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
- 21:45Speaker 4: So for me, bro, Man, it's just a full circle
- 21:49Speaker 4: moment because it's like damn like.
- 21:52Speaker 3: Like all of because because a lot of times, bro.
- 21:54Speaker 4: Like early on in my career, right, like, uh, when
- 21:58Speaker 4: I was quote unquote uh a different person you know,
- 22:03Speaker 4: was always the same person, right, I was.
- 22:05Speaker 3: Just a eighteen nineteen year old who you know got.
- 22:08Speaker 1: In trouble, right, and they just hit you with that
- 22:11Speaker 1: troubled youth he said, like, hell he's trouble, come on, right,
- 22:14Speaker 1: One incidence doesn't make you trouble, right.
- 22:18Speaker 4: But you know, early on in the league, bro, like you,
- 22:22Speaker 4: especially me, I missed out on what I feel like
- 22:24Speaker 4: it is a lot of fun because I was so
- 22:26Speaker 4: focused on a game, right, Like I wanted to have
- 22:28Speaker 4: a successful career. So man, I ain't start going on
- 22:31Speaker 4: vacations to like my fourth year in the league. You
- 22:34Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like in all season none none,
- 22:37Speaker 4: bro like and but but that was like the level
- 22:40Speaker 4: of sacrifice like that I that I had right and
- 22:43Speaker 4: so but you don't feel that when you're doing it right.
- 22:47Speaker 4: You're like, damn, all my teammates going up there in
- 22:49Speaker 4: the Bahamans date they this way, like they having a
- 22:52Speaker 4: ball and here you is just so focused on not
- 22:54Speaker 4: messing it up. And so you know, it was some
- 22:58Speaker 4: moments early on in my career like damn, bro, like
- 23:01Speaker 4: it don't even feel like I'm in the league because
- 23:04Speaker 4: you know, I'm so serious right, like, like I'm just
- 23:06Speaker 4: trying to do the right thing. So so it's good
- 23:09Speaker 4: to look back on that, bro and be like, damn,
- 23:12Speaker 4: you made the right decision, Like you was doing the
- 23:14Speaker 4: right things.
- 23:14Speaker 3: Like right, like all that paid off.
- 23:17Speaker 2: So what was what was that transition? Though?
- 23:20Speaker 1: Like was that was that you adding on like meditating?
- 23:23Speaker 1: Was that you like you know, guys, guys in locker room,
- 23:26Speaker 1: we have doctor doctor Chambliss or whatever, you know, a
- 23:29Speaker 1: therapy coach and like, and I always say that because
- 23:32Speaker 1: I know there's a stigma around athletes or even black
- 23:34Speaker 1: men in general, you know, not wanting to go to therapy.
- 23:37Speaker 1: And I'm like, bro, like go talk it out. I
- 23:39Speaker 1: try to tell you know, my young books. Now, I'm like, hey, man,
- 23:41Speaker 1: talk to somebody sooner rather than later. Like I didn't
- 23:43Speaker 1: even think about talking to a therapist or having therapy
- 23:46Speaker 1: sessions or even somebody you can bounce ideas off until
- 23:49Speaker 1: I was like eight years in and you you.
- 23:52Speaker 2: Try it out, You're like, this ain't bad. I don't.
- 23:54Speaker 3: I don't.
- 23:55Speaker 2: I won't see you every week, but I see you sometimes.
- 23:57Speaker 3: Right right, man? I loved actually were just talking about it.
- 24:01Speaker 4: You know. Last last year for training camp, I think
- 24:05Speaker 4: I missed like six practices, like three of those days.
- 24:08Speaker 4: I was like like in a uh it was like
- 24:11Speaker 4: a wellness therapy uh you know center, right, So like
- 24:15Speaker 4: I'm always down for that, Like I still I still
- 24:18Speaker 4: got my therapist, you know that I talked to.
- 24:21Speaker 2: What the hell is a wellness therapy therapy?
- 24:23Speaker 3: SHT?
- 24:24Speaker 1: Like like it's like a resort, Like man, it's like,
- 24:27Speaker 1: uh is a car wash for the mind?
- 24:30Speaker 4: Yeah, bro, basically, but it's like different things like obviously
- 24:35Speaker 4: you know any therapist session, right, people, Most people think
- 24:38Speaker 4: of therapy and they thinking like, oh man, I got
- 24:41Speaker 4: to sit in front of somebody and telling my whole
- 24:43Speaker 4: life story.
- 24:44Speaker 1: And and they're trying to find the root to all
- 24:47Speaker 1: my problems, like don't solve me.
- 24:48Speaker 3: You know a lot of people don't like doing that.
- 24:51Speaker 4: I don't really like doing it, but I know when
- 24:53Speaker 4: I have to do it, it's kind of cool to
- 24:55Speaker 4: release that. But the place I went to, man, it's like, man,
- 24:59Speaker 4: you go for walks on the lake, you know you uh,
- 25:02Speaker 4: they got like horse therapy, you know what I mean,
- 25:05Speaker 4: Like it's just you on a horse and you you know,
- 25:07Speaker 4: rubbing the horse.
- 25:08Speaker 3: Man. It's crazy, bro, But it's like it's therapeutic.
- 25:12Speaker 2: You and you and you and you and your z
- 25:14Speaker 2: you know.
- 25:15Speaker 4: So yeah, bro, But but but but my transition broke
- 25:20Speaker 4: was it was serious, bro, because obviously you you do
- 25:23Speaker 4: the therapy, you know part of it. But you know,
- 25:26Speaker 4: I had started really getting into like yoga, you know
- 25:30Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and like meditation right and you know
- 25:34Speaker 4: a lot of people that I work with now was
- 25:36Speaker 4: on them. I credit them too, man, because I had
- 25:39Speaker 4: like a good kind of supports, Like I said.
- 25:42Speaker 3: Bro, I had Larry and LEAs and pat.
- 25:44Speaker 4: So it's like I had I had all their resources, right,
- 25:49Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
- 25:49Speaker 1: So, shoot, you probably even had Darnell Dockett big strolls,
- 25:52Speaker 1: big stroll.
- 25:53Speaker 2: Like you need something, you need some muscle therapy.
- 25:54Speaker 4: Bro, But that was any of that dude, doctors was
- 25:59Speaker 4: that thing was trying to take me out, buy me
- 26:02Speaker 4: Jordan's you.
- 26:03Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. You wanted me to enjoy myself.
- 26:08Speaker 1: You know yeah team jump Man jump and shout out
- 26:11Speaker 1: Jordan Jordan brand.
- 26:14Speaker 2: I love it, bro, Like like I said, I just
- 26:15Speaker 2: like I like to talk about.
- 26:16Speaker 1: Just you know that mental health and wellness too, because
- 26:19Speaker 1: in this game, bro, we give so much to it.
- 26:21Speaker 1: Like you give and give and give and give and
- 26:23Speaker 1: realize you depleted without knowing that you depleted.
- 26:26Speaker 2: Like why am I edgy? Why am I irritable?
- 26:28Speaker 3: Why am I? You know?
- 26:29Speaker 1: My body hurts, my mind hurts, and everything, like you know,
- 26:31Speaker 1: my family still wants to to cuddle and lay down.
- 26:34Speaker 1: You're like, bro, don't touch me. Why you know what
- 26:36Speaker 1: I'm saying? Like, or you know, all all I do
- 26:38Speaker 1: is is deal with football and then I'm out in public.
- 26:42Speaker 1: I'm dealing with fans. So you know you you don't
- 26:44Speaker 1: even really know your real self. So sometimes it's cool
- 26:47Speaker 1: to just decompress and figure out who you are. And
- 26:50Speaker 1: sometimes you need other people to help you with that,
- 26:52Speaker 1: you know, again just to bounce ideas off. So I
- 26:54Speaker 1: just I just love trying to break that stigma of
- 26:57Speaker 1: like we don't need to talk to people, you know
- 26:58Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, as human beings, we're social, people's
- 27:02Speaker 1: supposed to community, We're supposed to communicate. My wife, my
- 27:06Speaker 1: wife is definitely gonna use that against me on this episode.
- 27:08Speaker 1: She was like, so we're supposed to communicate.
- 27:10Speaker 2: Just not right. I'm like, I do just what you
- 27:13Speaker 2: want all my interfelings, come on, relax, take it.
- 27:15Speaker 1: Easy, right, disclaimer right now. But uh all right, let's
- 27:20Speaker 1: let's get off that heavy and get into something like
- 27:21Speaker 1: you know, coming from coming from New Orleans, I want
- 27:24Speaker 1: to know what your what your favorite restaurant is out here?
- 27:27Speaker 3: My favorite restaurant, bro? Yeah, I don't even think it's
- 27:32Speaker 3: a restaurant, bro.
- 27:33Speaker 2: What you mean?
- 27:34Speaker 4: I mean like, because you know, someplace to sell food,
- 27:38Speaker 4: but it's like should they be selling food?
- 27:40Speaker 2: Should they be selling food?
- 27:41Speaker 4: But the food decent though, you know, Like so it's like,
- 27:44Speaker 4: you know, but nah, so they got a.
- 27:46Speaker 3: Store called a Red Rooster, and like I said, I
- 27:48Speaker 3: don't think it's.
- 27:49Speaker 2: A like the like the hot sauce.
- 27:51Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so but the catch is it's like Ronald
- 27:55Speaker 4: Cording from the Magnolian.
- 28:00Speaker 3: So you know, but they got the best hot sized
- 28:04Speaker 3: sandwich in the world.
- 28:05Speaker 1: Bro, But come in coming anywhere to to New Orleans
- 28:09Speaker 1: and everybody pushing hot sausage.
- 28:12Speaker 2: Didn't hit right from me. It didn't hit right for
- 28:13Speaker 2: me for a long time. They're like they're like, hey,
- 28:16Speaker 2: lead bod.
- 28:18Speaker 3: Bro, I love them. I love hot saage.
- 28:21Speaker 4: I think I love them too, bro, because I don't
- 28:23Speaker 4: eat them as much now since I've been back home,
- 28:26Speaker 4: right because like you can get them whatever.
- 28:30Speaker 3: Right right.
- 28:30Speaker 4: But it's like, Bro, when I was living in Arizona.
- 28:33Speaker 4: In Kansas City, we had I couldn't wait to get out.
- 28:36Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Hey, you know of from Arizona.
- 28:38Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. That hot sausage was not
- 28:39Speaker 1: on no platelet. You can get Charriso.
- 28:42Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 28:43Speaker 1: You get your trees burrito up in that thing, five eggs.
- 28:46Speaker 1: You know, sometimes put fried squad. You know, Pico and
- 28:50Speaker 1: some chariso. You ain't getting no hot sausage?
- 28:51Speaker 3: What no out here?
- 28:54Speaker 2: I'm like, like you a hot sausage? Why are you
- 28:57Speaker 2: always forcing this issue?
- 28:58Speaker 1: Feil no?
- 29:00Speaker 2: I would like turkey sausage please.
- 29:03Speaker 1: Right now, I need to know what other slang comes
- 29:05Speaker 1: from New Orleans. Bootkoo's really from back rouge, but like
- 29:08Speaker 1: it could be for New Orleans, like it could.
- 29:11Speaker 3: I feel like I was.
- 29:12Speaker 4: I feel like I was saying boot coo when I
- 29:14Speaker 4: was in the first grade, which is which is just
- 29:16Speaker 4: I think back on just moments like that.
- 29:18Speaker 3: And I'm like, like, is that really you.
- 29:21Speaker 4: Was using that word in the first grade? Just so
- 29:26Speaker 4: so young, too young to be so ignorant.
- 29:29Speaker 2: Just mean more, you know what I'm saying?
- 29:31Speaker 3: Land?
- 29:31Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't started using land up until I got
- 29:33Speaker 2: to New Orleans. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah,
- 29:36Speaker 2: laniah definitely a New Orleans.
- 29:37Speaker 3: French word for sure.
- 29:40Speaker 1: Or you know you have a birthday, like bro I
- 29:42Speaker 1: you know, I just turned eighteen. Everywhere else in the
- 29:45Speaker 1: world except New Orleans. Boys be out here, I just
- 29:47Speaker 1: made eighteen.
- 29:48Speaker 3: I just made eighteen. Just that, just made thirty one, just.
- 29:51Speaker 1: Made thirty eight, and I'm like, bro, why is that
- 29:54Speaker 1: an accomplishment to make thirty one? Like, okay, that's take
- 29:57Speaker 1: your blessings. I just made groceries. What you mean That's
- 30:01Speaker 1: probably the biggest transition when you come to New Orleans,
- 30:04Speaker 1: something like, yeah, I just made groceries.
- 30:05Speaker 2: How you make groceries?
- 30:07Speaker 4: A lot of your words are like in the rooms
- 30:10Speaker 4: spot you know, it shouldn't be that word.
- 30:14Speaker 2: Switching that join up.
- 30:16Speaker 1: So I'm like, g Night for show, gotta be the
- 30:19Speaker 1: different slang word like gin. I've heard you know, g
- 30:22Speaker 1: Phaso's forces, you know the ones whatever, But g Night's
- 30:27Speaker 1: New Orleans Bookoo, were gonna say New Orleans. You know
- 30:30Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna throw made.
- 30:34Speaker 2: I made eighteen. I made groceries. That's just don't don't
- 30:38Speaker 2: add up? Still add up out here.
- 30:40Speaker 3: And they got more. It's like a million of those words, Bro.
- 30:43Speaker 1: You got you get that New Orleans and them boys
- 30:45Speaker 1: started to start rattling off, and you be like, I
- 30:46Speaker 1: don't think I'm falling this conversation more. As we went
- 30:49Speaker 1: around way, we'd make we have make we had make
- 30:51Speaker 1: some food real quick, make some groceries. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 30:54Speaker 1: legit don't turn. I'll be like, bro, where did we
- 30:56Speaker 1: go with this? And how did we get here?
- 30:58Speaker 2: Who?
- 30:59Speaker 3: Who?
- 30:59Speaker 2: Who made y'all to speak like this?
- 31:01Speaker 4: To be honest, Bro, I think it all goes back
- 31:03Speaker 4: to the gumbo saying. It's just like you just got
- 31:06Speaker 4: a bunch of different people, bro, from like a bunch
- 31:08Speaker 4: of different places, and you know, like they're all trying
- 31:12Speaker 4: to talk the same language, but they speak different languages.
- 31:15Speaker 3: And these are the words we end up with.
- 31:18Speaker 1: Right, you know, Boo boo boo, the French creole something
- 31:22Speaker 1: a native American Spanish somewhere all the dip that into
- 31:28Speaker 1: a big bowl of gumbo.
- 31:29Speaker 2: Which is New Orleans.
- 31:31Speaker 1: All right, Well, anyway, Bro, I'm gonna get you out
- 31:33Speaker 1: of there. I was trying to keep it at thirty,
- 31:34Speaker 1: but I'm always going over that's my part. I A right, Hey,
- 31:37Speaker 1: I appreciate you tapping in, bro with with your boy
- 31:40Speaker 1: on off the edge like so, I love I love
- 31:42Speaker 1: having a podcast just to talk to my boys because
- 31:45Speaker 1: I always get like, you know, the producer sitting the
- 31:47Speaker 1: cheat sheet of you boy, You're like, no, I knew
- 31:49Speaker 1: he was a three time Pro Bowl and nah, I
- 31:50Speaker 1: knew all this.
- 31:51Speaker 2: He's super Bowl champion.
- 31:52Speaker 1: But I get to I could to learn like things
- 31:54Speaker 1: I didn't know about, you know, like like I know
- 31:56Speaker 1: what your middle name is.
- 31:57Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like I can there, Ran,
- 32:00Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, divine, divine, the tyrant, divine, Matthew, the coldest.
- 32:07Speaker 2: I appreciate you tapping in.
- 32:08Speaker 3: Boy man, I appreciate you, brother.
- 32:19Speaker 2: So there you have it. It's a wrap.
- 32:22Speaker 1: I just want to say a huge thank you to
- 32:23Speaker 1: all my awesome listeners for rocking with me. I've got
- 32:25Speaker 1: a whole locker room full of my favorite interviews from
- 32:28Speaker 1: season one coming your way.
- 32:29Speaker 2: But before I go, you know the drill. Come on now.
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