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132: Vanderpump Rules - Saw It On The Graham (S11 E6) · Reality TV Cringe

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RTC Commutative. Thank you. Before we get into this episode, there was
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like a little article that came out after Rachel Levis filed her I think bogus
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lawsuit about revenge porn and the time. I'm just gonna read the title and
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then we can kind of talk about it. It reads Tom Sandoval is crushed
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by ex Rachel Levis and her revenge porn lawsuit and thought that they would spend
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forever together. As insiders claim, he will likely pay her off to avoid
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a huge mess in court after causing irreversible traumama. I don't want to make
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light of it, because I do think that Rachel experienced trauma from all of
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this, and a lot of other people did as well. But what do
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you think about Tom and his PR team releasing a statement that he's really sad
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about this turn of events. He's not fucking sad. He's already dating someone
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else, I know, So, like, who cares he's scared he's losing
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money, honey, Yes, of course he is. I mean that you
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fuck around and find out my dude, Like, I don't know what you
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fucking expected. I say this every episode, you know. I'm like,
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Lala, we don't need to crucify him and make merch about him and stuff
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like that. We don't need to make him think I will if we could
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sell it well. I mean, I worm with a mustache, stickers and
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stuff. I mean, that's funny, but we don't need to be crucifying
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him over and over again for his mistake. But at the same time,
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it's like, dude, I don't know what you fucking expected, and you're
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guilty as fuck. Yeah, if you're gonna pay her off because you recorded
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her doing sexual acts without her, I mean, dude, what did you
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expect? We were gonna's bed forever together. That's why I kept the video
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of you doing porn shit right. I don't even know what she was.
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I don't know either. I did see that, Ariana. I always say,
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Ariana, it's Ariana went on a podcast, and I want to say
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it was Sheena's podcast again Shenanigans, which is weird to me because it feels
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like this season is setting them up to not be friends. But at this
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point, if she's on a Sheena's podcast, they are friends. Maybe it's
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a different podcast. I don't know. All I know is that Arianna said,
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I want to be very clear. I do not have the video.
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I did not send the video to anyone. I barely watched the video.
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I identify what the hell was going on in the video, and then I
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deleted the video. I did not disseminate and distribute anything. So that's her
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statement. She seems really strong in that. I think if she did do
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it that, I think there's enough clout goblins in the world that would come
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out and say, yeah, she sent me that video. I also think
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they might be able to look at her records to verify this. I don't
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know, yeah, but she was strong on that. But it makes me
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wonder about their money because she has two lawsuits, right, She's got this
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lawsuit with Rachel. They both have two lawsuits. They have this lawsuit with
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Rachel, and then they have the lawsuit with themselves. She's not paying him
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the mortgage payments and he's saying, she owes me ninety thousand dollars. He's
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put all that money into renovations into the house. She's paid for all of
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the furniture, which has to be split between them. So two lawsuits and
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all of this money in play a lean on the house allegedly. Like I
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think Ariana is in a much better position than Tom because she's all of these
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deals that we're starting to see on the show. But I think Tom,
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with his fucking failed restaurant, his weird band, that he has to pay
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everybody, he pays everybody, Oh he does. He pays everybody. Oh
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shit, everybody out of his pocket other than the show, Like, where's
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the money coming from for him. I guess he's got to do more gigs
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with his weird cover band to make money, because if we're supposed to believe
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this narrative on season eleven of him being like, well, I had to
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go on tour right after scandalval happened because I had no money and I had
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to sing songs talking about all of you guys because I was so broke and
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I had no money. It's like, if we're supposed to believe that,
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then, I mean, this dude is struggling, I think, yeah,
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especially if he lost like all of his deals and stuff, like his brand
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deals and shit, and yeah, oh well, I mean he did go
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on a TV show apparently, like he did have an opportunity come as way,
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but I made some money there maybe, But I'm just wondering what the
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money is actually looking like, specifically for Tom Sandival, especially if he's going
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to try and settle this. Yeah, I'm like, how much money is
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the least amount of money that Rachel would take? Right if it were you
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and one of your exes recorded you illegally and that shit was sent around,
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Like, what would be your lowest amount that you would accept from a man
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who's got money oh, I mean for from him, I'd be like millions,
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Yeah, give means, bitch, because that can ruin people's lives.
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I mean, especially with sexual shit. We saw that on ninety Day Fiance
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with Jasmine when Gino his dumb ass, was sending her nudes. She got
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fired from her job, right, and she was like an actual working lady
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working at a fucking college or something, teaching something, teaching English or some
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shit. So she lost her fucking job Like that can ruin people's reputations forever,
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especially with Rachel because she was a pageant girl and stuff. She was
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already like feeling the loss of being out of the pageant world because she aged
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out the ripe old age of twenty eight, right, you know, So
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I mean I would be like, yeah, I would be asking for a
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good chunk of change, and so he's gonna have to pay something. Yeah,
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it's gonna be it's gonna be weird, and we will definitely continue to
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share with you whatever we hear. Yes, because I'm listening me too,
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I got my raccoon modicle out of yes, bitch. All right, let's
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get into this episode of vander pump Rule Season eleven, episode six, entitled
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son on the gram the Graham Cracker, oh so on the Grayham. I
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don't know why they're calling it that when they just changed his name to Hippie
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and he's not even in this episode, you know, Okay, like whatever.
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We don't make the titles though, So we start with the episode with
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everybody waking up from Tahoe, like their first night in Tahoe. Sheena and
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Laala have a little conversation about Arianna because she knows struggling. Okay, she's
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struggling with their relationship with Tom's Annibal because he gave her money during previd which
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you picked. You predicted that last week, right, I talked about I
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saw the scene, Yeah, you knew it. So she talks about that.
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And then you know Tom's journaling Tom's Hannibal, oh okay in his diary.
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So both of these things I really want to get into you with you.
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First of all, the journaling. Yeah, like, I don't know
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about you, but I've had journals before. These are my private thoughts.
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These are often like my darkest thoughts, my deepest thoughts. This is not
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something that I share with anybody, much less a camera crew. No,
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and he has it wide ass open for everybody to read, which I paused
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and I read it, well the majority of it, Like, there was
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some blurred out spots. I'm curious as to what he was talking about there,
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but the majority of it was the same crap he's saying, which is,
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it's so great that we're in Tahoe and like everybody's being really nice to
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me. Sheina said hi to me at the airport, and I cry,
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are you kidding? Literally that's what he said. He's like, I've been
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feeling a lot of emotions. Okay, cringe, and he's lying in his
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bed and yeah, obviously he's being filmed. It's just like, oh my
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god, what are we doing here? What are we doing here? I've
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been reading on the subreddits and people are really questioning production, like is production
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really trying to execute a Tom Sandoval redemption arc? Like do they want us
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to forgive him? Or is production, in a different way trying to continue
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to bury him? And people like Shina because I think Tom thinks he's doing
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something. I think Shina thinks that she's doing something in her various scenes,
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but I walk away from them and I'm like I can't stand her. Yeah,
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shut up, why are you on my teles. Stop crying. I
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can't deal with them. For me, with Tom, it feels like he's
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being coached, Like it feels like somebody, his PR team or their producers
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or whatever are telling him what to say and how to react, because initially
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he'll react pretty shitty, and he'll get all defensive and he'll be like,
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but what about you guys though, right, you guys hurt my feelings.
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Though I'm not a piece of shit. It's all you guys. But then
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he'll come back and be like, no, it's okay, I'm sorry.
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Right, I'm here to grow. Yeah, I'm here to heal. That
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original reaction is his actual reaction exactly. The thing he does after the fact
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is to just try and clean it up exactly. It's inauthentic entirely. Anyway.
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I just thought that was so preposterous. Yeah, can I take a
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moment, by the way to apologize for my voice? I feel like she's
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coughing. Well I've been sick. Yeah, you don't care that your mother
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in law. I care, but you're too focused on coffee. Well I'm
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having a heart. Joe Rogan literally will be hacking microphone. I have that
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misce aphonia stuff for its mouth noises, voices, I hear saliva in the
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mouth, and if I hear too much fit I do not, I freak
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out. I can't I literally can't listen to it. So I'm listening to
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myself, like trying to exorcise all this fucking fleming. I'm just like,
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I'm sorry from grossing anybody out, but I'm still kind of working through my
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sickness, and I apologize. It's okay, that's why we forgive you.
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I'm sick, but I'm working anyway. Nobody for you. I do you.
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I appreciate, Okay, I'm here anyway. Get over it. Well,
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now let's go on to Shina though. Yeah. Sheina was lying there
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talking to La La making sure that we all know what we had talked about
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last week, which is during the pandemic when Sina was let go from her
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Shenanigan's podcast with whatever platform she was affiliated with, they were not filming,
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so she's not making any money from that. She had just had summer moon
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and they did not have any money because of course, Brock's not working.
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I mean, he's a loseer. Brock was working. No, he's absolutely
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not, and so Tom Sandoval caught wind of this and sent her several thousands
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of dollars. I don't know how much that is, anywhere from four to
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seven to ten or more. And so she's struggling with the fact that he's
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been a real friend to her and now she just is expected to turn her
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back on him. Yeah, okay, real friends whatever. I mean.
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It feels like he was buying her friendship a little bit. And I don't
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know, I don't know. I'm like, that's nice and all, but
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that's she was talking about how they've been friends for fifteen years. So like
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that, I can understand that perspective. I get it's hard to let go
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of friendship for that long. But at the same time, you're saying to
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Lala, I'm team Ariana until the day I die. So then why are
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you struggling with it? Right? You know what I mean? It's like,
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it just feels like you're being a little dramatic. Well, and another
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thing I wanted to bring up about this is that at the time that he
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sends her this money, so I would assume it's twenty twenty, right,
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It's around the time of his refy, which is when the rates were really
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low. Honey, because I availed myself at those rates. That true,
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right, So he sends her this thousands of dollars, But like, isn't
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that also Arianna's money? Like, I'm not sure about their accounts and their
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shared accounts separate accounts, but I do know that they were paying their mortgage
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before the REFI, according to Ariana, outside of their joint account. And
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so I'm just what I'm saying is, did Tom send her that money?
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Or did Tom and Ariana send her that money? And if it was Tom
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and Ariana that sent her that money, why are you just bugging about Tom?
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That's a good point. Maybe it was both of them. I mean
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I would have had to Can your wife send somebody ten thousand dollars and not
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tell you about it? I know these are rich people and stuff like that,
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but I'm sorry, if you're sending ten thousand dollars, you better fucking
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tell me. Irs knows, so I better know for sure. But to
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play devil's advocate, though, I know a bunch of couples, like I
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know people who are married, who have been married for ten plus years,
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who have separate bank accounts and like their husbands don't know anything of their finances,
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right, All they know is can you pay half the bills? Right?
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So maybe they have separate accounties maybe, but I mean still it did
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make me wonder though, Yeah, I was just wondering. Yeah, I
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mean it would be very interesting, right, And if if it was Tom
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and Ariana, then yeah, why is she just focusing on Tom? Like
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he's such a humanitarian and such a good fucking friend right to send you money
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for that? I mean, yeah, it's a nice gesture, but again,
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like, what was the motive? Was he buying your friendship? Probably?
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And she strikes me as somebody who's a little easily manipulative. Yeah,
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manipulated. Yeah, I'm sorry, So I don't know about that. And
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then while everybody's getting ready at Tahoe for their guided meditation, we bop on
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over to Ariana and Katie. Arianna is doing some little fo to shoot for
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her cocktail book because she's a single lady, right, and she's in her
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bad Bitch era inspired by Alanis Morissette and Beyonce. Know. Yes, so
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she's coming up with this really petty cocktail book. But I love it.
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I mean I think it's great. Well, see, here's what you don't
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know. A few seasons ago. I don't know what is it. Raccoon's
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like five to seven seasons ago. Arianna had an idea for a cocktail book
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much like this one, but not with a focus on being single. But
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she had all these cocktails that she had created because she's a mixologist, and
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she had this big idea. And then Tom the worm with a mustache,
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horned his way into her project and basically insisted that he should be a part
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of it. He ends up on the cover of it, ends up collaborating
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with her. She lets him come into the project and basically changes it.
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And so this cocktail book that she's doing right now in the season is a
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response to what he did in the cocktail book that she tried to produce.
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Ah, So that's what she was saying in this season. Seeing she was
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saying that, like she felt like Tom would never let her do or could
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never think that she could do anything on her own, right, And I
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was like, what does she mean by that? Yeah, talking about the
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really pushy, oh, really pushy and condescending. I don't remember exactly everything
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that happened, but it was very much a vibe of like are you sure
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about that? Like are you sure we shouldn't do something like this, like,
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let me just try this. I think it's gonna be better. Oh
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I hate that. Yeah, very manipulative. And she just kind of let
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him do it. Yeah. Well, I mean she looks beautiful now,
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and her photo shoot, I'm like, her hair is perfect. She's doing
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this photo shoot, she's telling Katie all of the names of all of her
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cocktails and they're totally you know, chedabinette, fucking yeah, Tom, I
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love it, Petty, petty pitty. And then they had like a little
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brief discussion because I guess Shehena texted Arianna while they're at Tahoe. Oh,
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she like telling her about what's going on with Sandbal and everything she know was
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very honest. She was just like, well, nothing deep, nothing really
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happened, nobody's fought, we're not really talking to him. It's like whatever.
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And Ariana reiterates to Katie, Well, then that's fine, but I'm
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not gonna be friends with anybody who's friends with my ex, right, So
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I mean that's fine, which is really clear. Yeah, And I feel
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like she has probably heard this before, which is what is causing her this
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tremendous turmoil for the cameras, but Ariana, that's her boundary, and so
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like we always kind of talk about people who try to impose their boundaries on
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other people's actions, right, But Ariana's like, no, no, no,
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do whatever you want to do, But as for me and my house,
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if this is who you choose to associate yourself with, like we just
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can't. I can't hang with you. It's not safe for me to be
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in that relationship. Allah Cody Brown, Yeah, I know, and people
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use that safe, but I mean I agree with Ariana. I was watching
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this twice today and I'm like, you know, I don't see anything wrong
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with that. I don't see anything wrong with her saying I just don't want
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to be friends with you for friends with my toxic gas X And we know
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because Tom Sandoval is a fucking narcissist. So it's like, yeah, why
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would you want to be friends with somebody who's associated but Devil's Advocate Ariana,
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which we've addressed before, Like, these are also your co workers and Tom
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Sandival is everyone's co workers, So what are you telling them to do that
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they're going to refuse to film a scene with him on like the biggest season
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After scandival, which means if they don't film with him, they don't get
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paid for that truly, So there's nuances. Yeah that I think Ariana's being
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a little bit obtuse about purposefully. Yeah, But at the same time,
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I respect her conviction and she's absolute, one hundred percent entitled to that opinion.
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And maybe her harshness is just being heightened because of the producers, Like,
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maybe it's not really like that. I are rell, you know what
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I mean, Like, maybe it's just for the harsh to me. I
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mean, I don't I don't feel like And even when we get to the
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scene where she's actually talking to Shana, who's having like a fucking breakdown after
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meditation with Tom, she's like taking care of Sena. Yes, she's like,
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our are you okay? You know I love you even though you're fucking
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meditating with this man who destroyed my entire life. She's very kind, I
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know, not heartful. Yeah, I agree. Well, let's get to
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the guided meditation, because this whole thing was as cringe as why do I
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hate Brocks so much? I mean, I actually didn't mind end this episode,
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but I can't and I tried. I understood that he was saying things
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that advocate for the way a lot of us feel, but coming out of
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his big fucking mouth. I couldn't take it. And when he shows up
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late to meditation, like making a grand entrance, I'm just like, I
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hate you so much, I really want I wonder what exists inside of me
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that you remind me of that I need to fucking go to therapy for because
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I hate you. Like, does he remind you of an X or something?
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Oh? God, maybe, maybe maybe, But he's such a clout
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goblin. He places himself in the middle of that fucking half circle of characters
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of castmates that have been on this program for one hundred years. He play
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sees himself right in the middle and starts talking, and shit, I'm like,
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shut, why are you talking? Who do you think you are?
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I mean, I didn't mind him, though, I will say some of
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the shit that he was saying. I'm like, it's pretty base. He's
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calling out Tom Sandoval on the gondola and shit, but he's offending Sheena.
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Right. I'm just saying, right, And that was good. I mean,
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that was a good conversation. But to me, it should have come
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from somebody else. It should have come from Sena, Like, I just
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don't understand who he thinks he is to have all of these very important conversations.
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Yeah for a round shit that he wasn't even around for. True.
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Yeah, he's acting like he knows everybody when he's literally nobody. While on
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the side he talks to Sina the way that he does. Yeah, like,
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dude, you don't work. She pays for absolutely. I'm going off.
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I'm going crazy. Yeah, stop, but you do nothing, So
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shut up. Sit over there and look pretty yeah, okay with all your
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muscles and everything. And I know for when they go to start guided meditation,
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like he went and left at five am to go golf in South Lake
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Tahoe and then he shows up hell a fucking li to the guide of meditation.
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He's like, sorry, I was going one hundred and twenty down the
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freeway. I'm like, oh my god, shut up. This lady's taking
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time out of your day to do this stupid guid of meditation with y'all.
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When you guys don't even take it seriously. They're just sitting there closing their
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eyes. Well Tom took it seriously. He sat down with the meditation lady
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guide Shanna lady. He's like, well, just so you know, like
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she doesn't know. Yeah, she wasn't there for Scandibal, Like you didn't
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watch the show during Scandabal, but you knew exactly what was going on.
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She's like, I know what happened. Yeah, I know you're a fuck
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boy. I know you're a cheater. But she's just sitting there like,
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oh, okay, I'll try to help the group. We'll see what we
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can do. I was really fucking cringe. And once they actually start doing
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the meditation, of course we got to focus on Shena and Sandoval because they're
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paired together, and she knows, like having a panic attack about it already.
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Why, I don't know, because our back's touching him. Listen.
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My first and instinct is to say, shut up, Shina, for real,
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it's not about you. Yeah, you don't have to be here if
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it makes you so fucking uncomfortable. But then I'm gonna take a step back
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and say I again, I say, I think this girl has legitimate anxiety
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for sure. I mean, does she still have some postpartum stuff going on?
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Because I think I can linger for quite some time if it's untreated,
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like she's got OCD. She's got fear, Like I can see that she
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would be emotional in any situation, much less something involving a friend of so
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many years. But at the same time, I mean, just like she's
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just making everybody comfort her and her feelings, like, and she's just crying
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non stop during this meditation because at one point, Shannon, the instructor,
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is like, turn to your partner and imagine that this is the last time
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you'll ever see them, and then she starts bawling, right, and I'm
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like, oh my god, yeah, whatever to me, I was watching
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this and I'm like, am I fucking jaded? Like? Am I such
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a piece of shit that I'm watching these people do a meditation that I'm like,
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this is cringe. But it just felt really like produced and it felt
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a little especially on Sheena's part. And then afterwards, I mean, oh
23:03
my god, yeah, no, it was very produced. It was ridiculous.
23:07
It wasn't happenstance that she got paired up with Tom, Like it's all
23:11
very calculated. Yeah, And then there's Tom with his one glycerine tear rolling
23:15
down his face, I know, and she no like thinks that that's genuine
23:21
and starts crying about it, and then she yeah, she says she does.
23:23
Okay, She's like having a whole ass reaction. I'm just dubious about
23:26
everything. Me too. Yeah, it feels very produced. It feels like
23:30
she's acting, it feels like he's acting. It feels like everybody's acting.
23:33
Yes, I think it's all an act. And then after the whole meditation
23:37
and everybody's healed, apparently, she know goes and cries more in the bathroom
23:41
with La La, and then she texts Ariana and she's like, we just
23:44
had really intense meditation and I'm just feeling a lot. So intense with all
23:49
the cameras and everything. You had a spiritual experience in a produced and fucking
23:52
curated moment. Okay, it was really ridiculous. But she does reiterate to
23:59
Ariana in the text. She's like, just know that I love you no
24:02
matter what, and I'm always going to be like having your back. So
24:04
I mean that's good. But then I'm like, then why the whole tears
24:08
and the theatrics, right, I mean, but she's not because we see
24:12
the preview where she's jealous about dancing with the stars. Yes, like she's
24:15
not an and Lala is also very very jealous, So yeah, yeah she's
24:22
not. She is team Arianna, but she's vacillating and she's trying to get
24:26
permission to do something she knows Ariana doesn't want her to do and will never
24:30
be okay with. And because of that, because Ariana is going to continue
24:34
to withhold that, she's going to make a victim out of herself. Why
24:37
can't it just be about my pain in the situation. Why can't you see
24:41
that and then let me do this thing that ultimately betrays you. Yeah,
24:45
because Ariana set the boundary and she told you a million fucking times, I
24:48
don't want to be friends with somebody who's friends with my ex. Sorry.
24:52
Yeah, it's like you can't sorry about it too, Yeah, sorry about
24:56
it is what it is. Yeah, you're either gonna do it or you're
25:00
not. But like, stop crying about it when Ariana already told you,
25:03
and again when she calls in this scene with Katie and Ariana, like,
25:07
Ariana's just trying to take care of Sheena because she knows obviously an emotional mess.
25:11
Yes, Katie has Sheena's number. I know, I know. I
25:15
like Katie in this because she's clocking it and she's like, the fuck.
25:18
So we'll get to that scene. Okay, they're so sorry, I'm jumping
25:22
all around. No, you're fine. Crazy. It's basically right after that
25:25
because after the meditation they go on a gondola ride. We'll talk about that
25:29
in a second. It's dumb. Then we bop over to Katie and Ariana,
25:32
who are interviewing Rando's for their restaurant that never opens, with some bitch
25:38
named Penny who's interrupting constantly, which I hate. I'm like, oh,
25:41
right, and well she's taking over the conversation for a shop or a restaurant
25:47
that she does not own, but I don't know whatever. Yeah, and
25:49
this is where Sena. Then facetimes Ariana and Katie and Sheena's on the boat
25:56
on Lake Tahoe and she starts crying. She's like, it was just a
25:59
lot. I admit that she was just a lot. You're a bummer.
26:02
Should have brought you to Tahoe. We're here at a party. What the
26:04
fuck is going on? Sad sack pig pen, You're in your You're in
26:08
a fucking beautiful place, and I'm like, I've never been to lake.
26:11
She misses her kid. Probably Probably she's probably having massive anxiety because her child
26:17
is not there. Probably, Yeah, because she's been struggling and Brock's been
26:19
pressuring her, yep, to fucking leave her kid with nanny's and shit when
26:23
she doesn't want to do that. Hm. Although I mean she went to
26:26
EMO night and stuff and she was fine, So I mean did Brock though,
26:29
Like who was watching the child? Yeah? I know she does stuff,
26:32
but like I do think I think she has a legitimate problem in this
26:34
area. She does, definitely for sure. But she's telling Ariana that she's
26:37
struggling with her not having a relationship with stand of all because he was such
26:42
a good friend to her, and Ariana has given her list look like,
26:45
hey, what do you want me to do about it? But she's being
26:48
comforting, like you said, she's telling her she loves her and that sounds
26:52
really hard and I'm sorry you're going through all of that. And then they
26:55
hang up, and then Katie and Arianna talks shit about it, and Katie's
26:57
like, she is a fucking mess. Yeah, Like she sounds fucking miserable
27:03
because she is. And they again reiterate that, Okay, that's cool that
27:07
you're struggling with that. But if you start being friends of Sandoval, I'm
27:11
not gonna be your friend, right. That's that. Well. In the
27:12
after show, Katie calls Sheena a man sympathizer. What yeah, She says,
27:18
Sheena has always been a man sympathizer, and she's got a point because,
27:23
for example, when Tom and Katie broke up, and Tom Schwartz was
27:29
one hundred percent a problem in that relationship, I'm not saying Katie wasn't,
27:33
but Tom Schwartz definitely acted badly in that marriage. Sheena went to Tom and
27:40
started spending way more time with Tom. Now, I don't know how close
27:42
she was as a friend to Katie, but she immediately took the side of
27:47
Tom. And we could probably go back through the seasons and see a lot
27:49
of times when Shina has done that. But Sheena refers to herself as a
27:55
boys girl. Interesting, isn't that what people say about Lisa too? Yes,
28:00
very much. That man's very very similar energy. But she's always kind
28:03
of been around the dudes, and the girls have always kind of kept her
28:07
on the outskirts for example, Stacy, Katie Kristen were always kind of antagonizing.
28:12
She know which is why I liked her for so long. Yeah,
28:15
because she was kind of like the odd one out, but she always hung
28:18
with the dudes, and so she chooses she tends to choose the dudes over
28:23
the checks. Hmmm, so then that tracks with her. I think it
28:27
tracks. I think what Katie's saying it tracks. Yeah, it makes a
28:30
lot of sense. And it seems like from the preview she is going to
28:33
try and be friends with Sandoval again because she believes him for how sorry he
28:37
is right, and I'm just wondering, is he giving you more money?
28:41
I don't know, And like I just wonder. Well again, let me
28:44
float the theory that maybe they can kind of all tell that Ariana is cycling
28:48
herself out of this series. Yeah, maybe she's not going to be on
28:52
vander Pump Rules anymore because she's so fucking tired of it. And she's also
28:56
refusing to film with people, which I mean, I don't think you can
28:59
do for a long period of time before the production company tells you to fucking
29:03
kick rocks, right, So maybe she's trying to align herself with the person
29:07
she thinks is going to be there longer. Interesting theory. Well, then,
29:15
after the text or after the FaceTime call and everything, we get back
29:18
to Tahoe. Now everybody took a gondola ride up to the lake or something.
29:23
I don't know, because after the gondola ride, they get on the
29:26
yacht and that's when we get to the fight. But the gondola ride to
29:29
me was interesting only because the boys rode together and then the girls rode together.
29:34
And Brock was antagonizing Sandoval in the gondola, and he was accusing him
29:41
and his published like his publicists and stuff, his pr team for spreading rumors
29:45
about Brock having an affair with Rachel during the whole scandal thing, right,
29:51
And do you remember me mentioning this to you, Yes, at the very
29:53
beginning, like before we even started the series, and I was like,
29:56
yeah, there was some kind of rumor that Brock's a cheated Yeah, and
30:00
yeah it was alleged that he did something with Rachel. And so Brock says
30:03
in this scene that, uh, they know it was Tom, Yeah,
30:07
they know off the record it was Tom's team to try and get the heat
30:11
off of Tom, and Tom denies it and he's like, that never happened,
30:15
that's not true. Blah blah blah, and then of course broadcast to
30:18
say in his talking head, like that affair never happened. Rachel was like,
30:22
my little sister, I would never let that happen because I'm married to
30:25
Shina. But I'm like, I don't know, dude. My first impression
30:29
of you was cheater vibes, Like, maybe you didn't cheat with Rachel,
30:32
that's cool, but I feel like maybe you would have cheated with somebody else.
30:34
Yeah. That's just my straightforward, fake, psychic, intuitive hunch about
30:38
that chick. Yeah, so that was the only interesting thing about the gondola,
30:42
right, But then we get to the boat in Dahoe, and this
30:47
is where everything kind of pops off between La La and Sandoval. So everybody's
30:53
drinking, everybody's partying. It looks beautiful, it does. The weather looks
30:57
like because you're from the Northwest, yeah, which is not the Northwest,
31:03
but it's California. Yeah, it's northern California. That's like the only area
31:08
in California that I've never been to. It's gorgeous. Lake talk you've been
31:11
there, Yes, they've been to Taho. Yes, it looks absolutely so
31:15
beautiful and it does look just spectacular. But like, this is why we
31:21
can't have nice things because people start to drink or people start to pop off,
31:25
and actually Tom's not drinking and Lala's not drinking, but we're going to
31:29
have a fight there. Yes, well, because Lala sits down with Sandoval
31:33
and she's like, I want to tax you a little bit. And she
31:36
was very calm at first. She's just like, I just want to talk
31:37
to you about how you had the ability to lie to my face for so
31:41
long and that wasn't cool, Like why don't you apologize for that? And
31:45
then of course Santoval reacts and he's like, but you're a liar too,
31:49
you lied for six years. And I guess he's talking about her relationship with
31:52
that Toady, remember, Like just to give some context here, when Lala
31:59
was with Randall in the good years, like they would give people NDAs if
32:04
they flew on Randall's private jets or went to any of their parties, like
32:07
you can't talk about Randal, you can't talk about anything. She was very
32:10
private, did not share a lot of information. When they asked, she
32:14
was just like, fuck you, I don't tell you anything. When he's
32:16
finally introduced to the group and people start questioning like, what's going on with
32:22
this though, Like wasn't he married this or that? Which Tom Sandoval tried
32:25
to bring up a few times, Laala popped the fuck off, got all
32:30
crazy. Don't you ever question my man? My man's a good man,
32:35
all the shit. So she did not share her life for years. I
32:38
think Tom's right about that. It's just the wrong time. And again,
32:43
you can't do it this way. It's like every single member of this cast
32:46
has done shitty things right, and they're absolutely hypocrites in my opinion, But
32:52
now is about you, right, this moment is about the shit that you
32:54
did. And what she's saying is like, while you were calling me out
32:58
for a lack of trans parentcy, and she even says I think she says
33:02
somewhere in this episode, I mean, and I was, Yeah, I
33:05
didn't, I didn't share. But while you were doing that, you're also
33:07
fucking Rachel right, And I have a problem with that. Yeah, I
33:12
have a problem with that too. And like to me, when he was
33:15
accusing her of lying, I'm like, this isn't the same kind of a
33:17
thing, like because Laala maintains the idea that she didn't know that Randal Toad
33:23
guy was married, that she was a mistress, right, and like,
33:27
okay, yeah, but I mean, like it's still not the same context
33:30
to me. I'm like, it's not they had a whole relationship. She
33:34
was only with this guy. She wasn't cheating on Randall, was she No,
33:37
exactly, but she was cheating with Randall? What do you mean,
33:39
well he was cheating? Oh? So like she was she was the mistress,
33:43
right, she was a collaborator. Yeah. That she says she didn't
33:45
know, but that is in question, and I think she's slowly but surely
33:52
trying to accept the fact that that's what she was. She was a mistress.
33:55
I didn't know I was a mistress, didn't you? We all did,
33:59
though, How did we know that watching you when you were doing your
34:00
private jets and your range rovers, how did we know that you were a
34:05
mistress? But you didn't. You absolutely did in my opinions, Yeah,
34:07
and you're just not owning it, Like how are you that stupid? And
34:09
so Tom had a problem with that because absolutely, you're not sharing your life
34:14
on this show where I'm gonna have to share it fucking everything, right,
34:16
but I'm getting into physical fights with Jack's and fucking Stossy's hitting Kristen like we're
34:22
showing absolutely everything, but you get to hide stuff. Why Yeah, I
34:25
mean I guess I see where Tom's coming from. But again, like you
34:29
said, it's not the fucking right fine, like just say you're sorry.
34:31
And that's essentially what happens because he doesn't say sorry at first, he doesn't
34:36
take any accountability because it's Tom fucking Sandoval, and so then Lala blows up.
34:40
She starts calling him a fucking dirty liar in her talking head, She's
34:45
like, maybe I overestimated the self work he's been doing. I'm like,
34:47
yeah, bitch, you have well, But can I just be Devil's advocate
34:52
here? I mean, like, Lala, you get triggered so quickly,
34:57
like if you want to sit down and have a reasonable conversation, even if
35:00
it's with a narcissist, like you're not helping yourself by immediately escalating when he
35:07
doesn't do exactly what you want him to do or say what you want him
35:10
to say. And so then she's yelling, then she's stomping around, then
35:14
she starts to cry, and all of that is just dog brain, Like
35:17
there's a part of your brain that we get into when we get really angry
35:21
and we're arguing, that is just not present. Yeah at all. You're
35:23
just barking, barking, barking, and nobody's hearing you. She really needs
35:27
to learn how to calm the fuck down and communicate in a different way.
35:30
Yeah, and why bother with Tom, right, because you know what he
35:36
is. Yeah, but she does call him a groomer, which I was
35:38
like, I ah, that was and an isolate you isolate and you groom
35:43
which I'm like, I feel like that's true. Yes, And I feel
35:45
like because she's so problematic in ways, but at the same time, she's
35:49
a truth teller. Yeah, she's calling it like it is. And then
35:52
of course that's when once she calls him a groomer, that's when Tom starts
35:55
really freaking out. He's like, don't fucking kill me a groomer. He
35:59
starts standing up and starts yelling and freaking out. Yeah, and then Brock
36:02
comes in because of course he's got to center himself. And then Shena comes
36:07
in, so Brock and Sheena both are yelling at Tom, being like,
36:09
dude, all she wants is an apology, Like you just have to acknowledge
36:14
that you affected everybody, like we just want apologies for all of this shit
36:17
and for you to take accountability. And then, for some reason, after
36:22
Brock says that, and after Sheena says that, then Tom comes to his
36:25
senses and in his talking head he's like, yeah, I realize I'm being
36:30
kind of hypocritical, like I should just say sorry. So he does say
36:32
sorry. In the moment, he hugs Lalla and cries yeah behind his sunglasses.
36:37
Yeah, I think that. I think Lala is trying to work on
36:44
this relationship authentically, she just doesn't know how. I think Tom is completely
36:50
manipulative and just trying to get an ally back on his side with Lala,
36:53
yet like he's not really interested in a friendship with her. And the after
36:58
show I heard say that it was really great that Shina went in, not
37:02
Brock, but Shina went in to talk to Tom because she spoke very calmly.
37:07
She spoke in a way that Tom could hear. She's not barking in
37:10
her dog brain, so that Tom gets really defensive, and then he was
37:14
able to say, I get what you're saying. Let me apologize. But
37:16
as I said at the top of this episode, if you don't lead with
37:21
You're absolutely right. I betrayed you. I betrayed the group. If you
37:24
don't lead with I'm actually really sorry. I've been thinking about it. I'm
37:28
in therapy. These are the things that I'm gonna do to get better,
37:30
all the things you should do. If what you lead with is well what
37:32
about you? Yeah, then you are not sitting in the energy of the
37:38
shit that you did and taking ownership of it exactly. And he won't.
37:43
I don't think he will. Well, how can he Wasn't it just three
37:45
weeks ago that he was being interviewed by New York Times and he likened his
37:51
popularity to what happened to OJ and George Floyd, like this where his fucking
37:54
head is that, yes, he's a fucking idiot. It's a ding dong.
37:58
He's so dumb dope. And but for some reason, like Laala takes
38:01
his hug and apology seriously and she's like, Okay, I think I think
38:07
there's so many psychological things that we could talk about with that too, because
38:09
I really think that Laala needs feels, it wants the validation and affirmation from
38:17
everybody, from men in particular. I don't know why. It's very paradoxical
38:22
to me, and that might be Yeah, that might be controversial, but
38:25
I mean I just feel in my spirit that she needs that, and that's
38:30
probably how she ended up with Randall Emmett in the first place, an older
38:34
dude. I mean, that's what that would makes sense, because I'm like,
38:36
how, as a beautiful girl like you, you don't end up with
38:39
pieces of shit Toad. I mean, I don't understand. There's plenty of
38:44
wealthy billionaires that look good that you could end up with, but there's something
38:47
inside of you willing to accept that. Yes, and you had a kid
38:52
with him. I'm like, speaking of which, did you hear that Lalla
38:57
is pregnant with her second baby? And she did what y'all are gonna do,
39:00
you Leyspians. She got artificially inseminated, and she's like, the best
39:05
thing about being pregnant is that the father doesn't fucking exist. What. Yes,
39:10
So she went to a spoiling bank, dang, and she took that
39:16
by the reins with her own agency. She went out and she selected the
39:22
jiz that she wanted to line up with the family she wanted to create.
39:24
She doesn't want a man to fuck it up. That's great. And she's
39:29
pregnant. She's got a poof she's got to be at least four or five
39:30
months. Oh my god, that's great. That's cool. I can't wait.
39:34
I love that. That's awesome. Well, then maybe she's in therapy
39:37
and she's here. I think she is. I think she is validate her
39:39
need for validation from men. So you can tell because she calls herself on
39:44
her own ship. She does. Yes, she acknowledges it. But that's
39:46
what I like her. Doesn't mean that there's no shit. Yeah, so,
39:50
but we all have shit, of course, So I mean nobody's perfect.
39:53
She's sober, she's trying to work out her shit. She's not perfect,
39:57
but compared to fucking Thomas of all, I mean, worlds apart.
40:01
Yes. So after they make up and everything, everybody gets off the boat
40:07
and Brock and Schwartz are drunk as fuck. They had this like little scene
40:12
where Brock tells Schwartz He's like, you didn't hit on any of the girls
40:16
on the boat at all, which I'm like, okay, gay conspiracy,
40:21
Like it just feels like they're setting it up for that. Tom and Tom's
40:23
staring at each other from across the yacht. Yeah, I mean, if
40:28
only we could show these people who we really are. I mean, please,
40:30
don't, please do I'm just saying, I mean, that would be
40:35
great. I would love it for them. Well, we did see Tom
40:37
Schwartz awkwardly ask to give his phone number to one of the crew, but
40:42
it was so so dry, it was so no chemistry. You're just doing
40:47
this for the cameras. Yeah, to appear that he's straight. I don't
40:51
think he's I don't think he's gay, but but the I did notice that.
40:53
I was just like, that's really what Brock said. That's the first
40:57
thing he says. But they're drunk, so I'm like, maybe it's just
41:00
whatever, Maybe it's just bro talk. I don't know. But then they
41:01
talk about Katie a little bit, because Schwartz is like, well, you
41:06
know, I'm still dealing with, you know, the whole Katie stuff,
41:08
Like I've been in love for a long time, and as much as I
41:10
hate Katie, right doesn't miss an opportunity to throw her under the bus.
41:15
Yeah, you were with this to asters, Like, what the hell?
41:20
As much as I hate Katie and there's a lot of things to hate about
41:22
her, and I mean a lot, a lot, and I'm like,
41:24
I've yet to see one thing right, but whatever, he says, he
41:29
has a lot of love and respect for her because she was willing to date
41:31
and when he was a broke ass, hoe ass loser right before he had
41:37
anything. And truly, verily, I say unto you, Yeah, the
41:40
only reason he has anything right now is because of Katie. Yeah. Because
41:45
Katie legitimately worked for Lisa vander Pump. She was literally a server. Tom
41:50
Schwartz was not Tom Schwartz was just her dumb boyfriend. And it was Katie
41:55
Stossy Jack's and Tom and Sheena who started this whole series Wow. And she
42:02
brought Tom along. And then Tom goes on to be on Winterhouse and Summer
42:06
House. Tom goes on to become famous, make a lot of money.
42:09
He gets the opportunity from Lisa vander Pump to join to open Tom Tom,
42:14
which is a restaurant bar. Not Katie Nastasy, not any of the women,
42:19
of course, And he gets the opportunities and ultimately they break up.
42:22
But make no mistake, the only reason he's anybody is because of Katie.
42:27
And so for him to continue to take every single opportunity to drag her.
42:31
Yeah, it's really shitty. You act like you want to be her friend.
42:36
You act like you want to have this great co parenting relationship for your
42:38
dogs. But when she's not there, and even when she is, like,
42:43
you take all the opportunities to shit on her. That's why I don't
42:46
really respect Tom Schwartz. He's got that aw shucks kind of charm. But
42:51
I'm like, I see you, you motherfucker. You're slimy. Yeah,
42:53
I'm seeing it now in every episode. I'm like, I really don't like
42:57
you. Like you here if you have a succulent Yeah, he does suck.
43:01
That's all he has now is his succulence and his little apartment. Yep.
43:06
Oh god, embarrassing. And then it's the last night in Tahoe.
43:09
Everybody's packing up. I'm like, we're they only there for two nights?
43:14
Yeah? I think they got there on a Friday. They're leaving on a
43:15
Sunday. Honey. Is that all Swartz could afford because he's the one that
43:19
paid for this. No, Bravo definitely put them in the the RBO.
43:22
I mean they had to. Absolutely, this is all production. It has
43:25
to be because I'm like, that house was fancy, but anyway, it's
43:31
the last night in Tahoe, and Sandoval thanks Schwartz for inviting him because you
43:36
know, this was a breakthroughs a breakthrough. Oh my god, it's so
43:43
dramatic. And then this is where we have Shena and Laala in the bed
43:49
and Shina's on Instagram and Twitter obsessively checking her mentions because she's a narc,
43:57
because she's looking at she posted we didn't even talk about, but she had
44:00
posted a photo or somebody had posted a photo of her standing next to Tom
44:05
Santaval. She had her arm behind him because she was taking a photo for
44:08
somebody's birthday or whatever. And so everybody on the internet allegedly is saying,
44:13
oh my god, she knows bfs with Tom Sandaval. What a bitch,
44:16
what a trader? And she is taking it very personally. And she's in
44:21
bed with Laala looking at her mentions and Lala's like, why are you looking
44:24
at that? And she was like, I'm not searching for it, it's
44:28
just you know there, it's on my timeline, like whatever. Lala's like,
44:31
I don't see that at all. I don't see that in my algorithm.
44:35
I haven't seen anybody talking shit, you're literally looking for it, right,
44:38
she is taking it personally. And then this leads into the conversation again
44:43
about how she's struggling with her relationship with Tom Sanaval, and then she starts
44:46
crying, right, and then she brings up Ariana. No, Laala brings
44:51
up Ariana because Lala's like, has Ariana defended you at all? Has she
44:55
been there for you? And she was like no, talking about all we
45:00
sees all we see the footage that we see, Like there could be other
45:05
things happening behind the scene, I guess, but from the footage that we
45:08
do see, I feel like Ariana's for going through what Arianna's going through.
45:15
I feel like she's giving a lot of support, Yeah, to Shina and
45:17
to other people. Yeah, And we literally saw you in this episode,
45:21
Facetimer, and she was being there for you as you're crying about struggling with
45:24
a relationship with her ex. Right, and she betrayed her fundamentally, yes,
45:30
and changed her entire life. And Ariana in that FaceTime I forgot,
45:34
was telling Shina. She's like, look, it's not like I don't want
45:37
you to be friends with him, like you could do that. We just
45:38
won't be as close. But I don't want you to be friends with somebody
45:42
like him because he's a piece of shit, Like, and I worry about
45:45
how he will treat you, and I don't think he cares about you.
45:47
Like she's literally looking out for Shena and then for Shena in this scene with
45:52
Lala to act like Ariana's being a shitty friend and to Lala like Lala's kind
45:57
of co signing it yeah, and being like, well, yeah, I
46:00
mean, she's going through a lot, and she's like doing all these brand
46:02
deals and stuff, and she deserves that. Boom boom boom boom. Jealousy.
46:07
It's all jealousy from those two girls. I'm like, fuck, y'all.
46:09
Yeah, they see how much money Ariana's making. They see the zeitgeist,
46:14
the national consciousness, and that Ariana is right in the center of it.
46:16
And I remember what they were doing online at this time too. They
46:20
were doing the fucking most and Sina got a lot of profit, a lot
46:23
of attention, a lot of shine, so did Lalla. But the fact
46:27
that they're still jealous over something terrible that happened to Shina is pretty wild.
46:31
I'm sorry to Ariana. Yeah, is pretty wild to me. And then
46:36
when Sina's crying, why can't it ever be about me? Girl? I
46:40
mean, like, just to utter a statement like that, I know.
46:44
I mean, if I'm uttering a statement like that again, I have the
46:47
facility to pop out of my own body and see how I sound to other
46:51
people. Like right, I would be so hard pressed in any situation to
46:53
say something like that, even if I deserved it for really, like what
46:58
what about me? It's so fucking narcissistic and immature. Yes, the call
47:02
that she has the hubris, the audacity. I say this on camera when
47:07
she knows Ariana's gonna see this, I know. I Like, people are
47:12
making memes of this scene as she is laying that angle is so unflattering.
47:16
I feel bad. It's kind of funny her saying that. I'm like wow,
47:22
and like this whole episode is about you, Like what are you talking
47:25
about? When it's I've ever been about you? Literally, the last five
47:29
episodes have been about you. You crying, You've been highlighted a lot.
47:32
We've been talking about your Emo night and your dumb music. Oh my god.
47:37
But like you'd have to have watched every single season. She got married
47:39
twice she got a divorce. We heard about that. She releases his music.
47:45
She dates all these fucking loosers, right, and we always hear about
47:50
that. Like, she is featured so prominently in this show, Like I
47:52
would much rather have other side characters, Yeah, get more time than Shena
47:57
and I have historically over the course of the series, Like Peter Madrigal,
48:00
Like I'd like to know more about Peter Magical. You haven't even met him.
48:02
He's a guy works for Lisa with the same crowd, Like I would
48:06
have always just wanted to know more about him, huh, and just other
48:08
side characters. But I'm just saying Sheena has gotten a lot of time in
48:13
front of the camera. She's had a lot of storylines. Yeah, for
48:15
her to say this is abb absolutely de Lulu. Do you think it's scripted
48:20
or do you think she actually feels that way. I feel like she's maybe
48:23
a little bit being massaged by the producers to feel this way. But because
48:28
she's in such a weird, heightened, emotional, anxious state, it's easy
48:31
for her to tip over into that paranoia. That's embarrassing and it's totally gonna
48:37
cause issues. It's gonna cause issues Arianna and Kate. She's gonna have the
48:40
nerve to go to Lisa Vanderpump's house and talk about dancing with the stars.
48:47
Arianna knows how much I wanted that. That's how you know, That's how
48:52
you know somebody's a real friend. Yeah, Like, I think jealousy is
48:57
normal. And when you see your real tight homegirl getting all the opportunity and
49:00
you're just sitting there, I can see how that would hurt. But like
49:04
to say that out loud with your own voice and words, it's crazy to
49:08
me. That's wild. Those are inside thoughts, Like those are things that
49:12
you think inside yourself, and you check yourself in your brain and you're like,
49:15
well, that's a little bit shitty. Do you know you're saying that
49:17
so we can all hear it exactly speaking right now exactly like that is embarrassing.
49:24
That's why I'm asking is production actually trying to throw Tom and Sheena and
49:31
Laala under the bus because of these types of scenes, Because when you look
49:37
at it straight on, it looks like, oh shit, they're trying to
49:40
reform Tom's sound of all. They're trying to bring him back into the friend
49:44
group. They're trying to get all the friends to forgive him. But when
49:47
you kind of step back and look at all of the angles, it's like,
49:50
mm, it kind of feels like they're doing Shina dirty. I mean
49:54
kind of and Tom too. Nobody's buying it. No, nobody's buying the
49:58
Tom stuff. But I have been seeing people being kind of pro Shena and
50:00
pro Laala, Like people have even commented to us on Instagram and stuff,
50:05
being like, you know, you guys should give Sheena more credit. I'm
50:07
like, well, we're trying, but she's annoying, you know. So,
50:13
I mean, we're just calling it as we see it, right,
50:15
But I don't know, maybe they're trying to throw them under the best.
50:19
But it feels like everybody's trying to be anti Ariana Ariana And now I'm saying
50:25
it wrong, right because Lala in this scene is trying to throw her under
50:30
the bus, and I'm just what the fuck? Lala in the interstitial in
50:32
her talking head, She's like, Shina has shown up for Ariana time and
50:37
time again, and it's time now for Ariana to show up for Shena.
50:40
And I'm like, why what are you talking about? Ariana has been there
50:44
the entire time oh, and she even says in the preview for next week
50:49
something like, you know, Ariana's on Dancing without the Stars, which is
50:53
quite a step up from being my background dancer. Oh my god. And
50:57
then there's footage of Ariana being her background dancer. That's that's petty, that
51:02
is so what that is like? So this is I think this is going
51:09
to get pretty interesting. And I actually have a suspicion that this is all
51:15
kind of being curated and designed to get us to an end, a result
51:20
that we haven't yet determined, do you know what I mean? Like,
51:22
I think we're gonna end up in a very interesting place. And by the
51:25
time we get to the reunion with Arianna, having seen all the shit that
51:30
these girls are saying, I think there's the potential for it to be very
51:32
good. I'm excited for the reunion's high key because the ones from season ten
51:37
were lit. Yeah. Oh yeah, they're typically always good. Oh my
51:42
god. Are they always fighting? Oh yeah, they're always fighting? I
51:45
love it. Yeah, somebody's always breaking up, Yeah, getting together.
51:49
There's some problems in the friend group, who's the number one guy, arguments
51:53
and such, But yeah, they do tend to pop off, so I
51:58
don't know, very interesting. I'm I don't not like Sena, And again,
52:01
I want to advocate for her mental health right now, which I think
52:06
she's making way more out of what's going on because of her mental health,
52:10
like a baseline issue that she might be dealing with, and so I have
52:13
compassion for that. But at the same time, some of this is a
52:16
little Delulu. Yeah, check yourself period a little bit. Yeah, but
52:22
yeah, the preview looks interesting next week. I mean there was also Lala
52:24
talking about wanting to rebrand. This is where she does talk about the sperm
52:28
donor. Schwartz goes on a date with a girl and then Katie and Lala
52:35
argue, which, because Katie is good at argumentation, Bealala's better, honey.
52:45
And I think a lot of people in the friend group, in the
52:46
girls section of the friend group, are intimidated by Katie because of how mean
52:52
she can be. They know she can be from seasons before, and if
52:57
anybody's gonna go toe to toe with her, it's gonna be I want to
53:00
see it yet, but I mean, I just feel like Lala's going to
53:02
be on the wrong side of that argument. Yeah. Probably, it's probably
53:06
gonna be some bullshit, and then Sandy it's going to be about Sheina probably,
53:09
Oh yeah, She's gonna be like, why don't you care about Gina?
53:13
And then Katie's gonna be like, because she sucks Scott, she's a
53:15
girl woman. Katie doesn't like Sina, she really hasn't ever liked her.
53:20
I mean I kind of don't really like Sina. I mean I can see
53:22
the goodness and Sheenah and everything, and I totally empathize with her with her
53:25
mental issues right now that she's going through. But if you had watched previous
53:30
seasons, she would have had stored up a lot of credit with you so
53:34
that you could give her a lot of grace in this season. Not in
53:37
her music though, but not in her music like a lot of people have
53:39
always historically just hated Sheena. Well, I've never been one of those people.
53:44
Yeah, you always root for the underdog, Steff, you do.
53:46
I do. And then the last thing that was in the preview with Sandoval
53:50
has a conversation with Lisa vander Pump about Rachel, which will be interesting.
53:54
Okay, it's probably just gonna be talking about how he loved her, he
53:59
cares about her, and now she doesn't want anything to do with him.
54:01
Well, I would she here for you? You're forty two, you're a
54:07
la who's paint your nails. You're gonna lose your home, you're gonna lose
54:10
your restaurant, you're gonna lose your friend group. Like, ooh, why
54:15
would she? Yeah? Yeah, you suck. Yeah, yeah, he
54:17
kind of does suck. Well, we will be back to discuss that,
54:20
of course next week Thursday slash Friday. Yeah, is that what we do?
54:25
Yeah, And we will be back next week at the beginning of the
54:29
week to talk seeking Sister Wives, which is crazy. Oh my god,
54:32
you watch that right? Yes, I listen as a former fundamentalist, having
54:39
to listen to and even look upon this Garrick guy. I've never watched this
54:44
before. Oh my god, he's a buzz. Like when I tell you,
54:46
I had my fucking concordance out, wh when I tell you, I'm
54:50
like fucking googling scripture the shit he's talking about. I went crazy. So
54:53
I can't wait to talk about that. We're gonna have to catch up on
54:57
the first episode and then we'll do the second episode, and that's going to
55:00
be on Tuesday slash Wednesday. Up next week, and just a reminder,
55:06
we are not going to be covering Sister Wives Rewinds for indeterminate Yeah, we're
55:12
not quite sure when we're going to feel ready to come back for that,
55:16
so we will let you know if and when we do, you will be
55:21
the first to know. But we'll definitely be back to talk about some crazy
55:23
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