Latest / Saints Block Party Podcast / Ep 278 - Saints vs Vikings Week 5 Preview
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- 0:00[SPEAKER_00]: hashtag no music no intro we are back the same spot party podcast coming at you brought to you and prison it by precious works LLC for any of your business website needs each out to our Guy Bajan he woke you up.
- 0:14[SPEAKER_00]: It is
- 0:15[SPEAKER_00]: On to week five, my name is Adam and joined by my co-host, my friend Ryan aka Wolf.
- 0:24[SPEAKER_00]: We have been covering the Saints and the variety of capacities over these six plus years for unprodased senior bulls, combined you named it, we've covered it.
- 0:34[SPEAKER_00]: And we recorded this on a Wednesday night.
- 0:43[SPEAKER_00]: wins the night and we just want to give like thoughts to the whole golf course in Regent area regarding I don't know what the name of the hurricane I don't need right
- 0:54[SPEAKER_00]: tracking category two, potentially going to hit the Alabama, and maybe Oh, it's me and the, but yes, right in Ryan's fucking direct line of sight, we are still scheduled to have our big Sains Block 40 podcast, SBP.
- 1:13[SPEAKER_00]: big meet up this weekend.
- 1:15[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be might be rainy, but we are we're pushing through.
- 1:18[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be there.
- 1:19[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to have a great ass time all of us together.
- 1:24[SPEAKER_00]: But you talk about a game.
- 1:28[SPEAKER_00]: How does
- 1:44[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know, it, uh, that's a, that's just, Oh, I always ask you this on the preview, but after you've gone back, you watched all 22 or what happened on the night football.
- 2:03[SPEAKER_00]: Are you, are you, I was kind of like the astro perspective postwatching the all 22.
- 2:12[SPEAKER_00]: So do you, after you've seen it and you wrote, you wrote about it, should go to patreon.com slash things, but probably read Wolves all 22 breakdown of all the games that have happened so far, the office of breakdown.
- 2:25[SPEAKER_00]: Did you come away as like a gas as you were as you were watching the game or did you feel like, like if you could squint, like it may be,
- 2:36[SPEAKER_00]: didn't look as bad as maybe it the score.
- 2:39[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was a terrible fucking game.
- 2:41[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's no way around this terrible.
- 2:43[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's no way around it.
- 2:45[SPEAKER_01]: Like those squinting needed.
- 2:47[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
- 2:48[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you watching the tape, I mean, you just, you go back to you, understand.
- 2:53[SPEAKER_01]: Really how the game just unfolded.
- 2:57[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, kind of just gave way to what it ended up in.
- 3:02[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm saying because
- 3:04[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, even there were times when the Saints' offense like did wake up and moved the ball well and scored a couple of touchdowns or getting scored in range.
- 3:16[SPEAKER_01]: And then the defense just couldn't stop there.
- 3:19[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was just any time they would get like a little more, or would look like a little more midsum, it just would dissipate away immediately.
- 3:26[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not to put all the blame on the defense because I still think offensively,
- 3:31[SPEAKER_01]: There were things they could have done to steer the ship a little better, but with the way to defense was playing, I just don't, I don't know if.
- 3:40[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if anything could have been done unless you just said shut up.
- 3:44[SPEAKER_01]: It would have had to have been like that giant Saints game in a dome 15 when Breeze threw like 30 touchdowns, it would have had to be like that.
- 3:54[SPEAKER_01]: Like just just cooking it.
- 3:56[SPEAKER_01]: The offense just isn't that complete to be able to do that.
- 3:59[SPEAKER_01]: You know, even just the passing game is just not, you know, it's just not there yet.
- 4:03[SPEAKER_01]: So.
- 4:04[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, it was like, how did they disintegrate so badly from the first three and a half quarters of that Raider's game to where the offense is now?
- 4:17[SPEAKER_00]: Because it doesn't look like it's even recognizable at this point.
- 4:22[SPEAKER_00]: Because like that Raider's game was so crazy because that felt like bra like this, this is it.
- 4:27[SPEAKER_00]: Now I know it ended badly, but like it was like we kind of saw like the full
- 4:32[SPEAKER_00]: vision, ask of what like the killer more offense and system want it to be.
- 4:39[SPEAKER_00]: Shocked through for fucking four touchdowns in that game.
- 4:41[SPEAKER_00]: And the NFL is such a, like, like it could have such a way of like, like it could be very humbling.
- 4:49[SPEAKER_00]: Like to you as an organization and to a fan base because now it's like,
- 4:56[SPEAKER_00]: Well, now these things got to go against the Minnesota vikers and Brian Flores and and Kellen Morick got in the offensive line, can't really pass protect.
- 5:02[SPEAKER_00]: And they can't run the, like, though, and we'll get into it.
- 5:05[SPEAKER_00]: Like the way you've got to beat this vikers team is you got to be able to run the ball to not have to be in passing situations all the fucking time.
- 5:12[SPEAKER_00]: And so they can't, you know, Brian Flores can't get all freaky with the blitzes and all that.
- 5:17[SPEAKER_00]: But this team can't run the ball and they couldn't run the ball ash.
- 5:20[SPEAKER_00]: So like it's a, it's a fundamental, like,
- 5:24[SPEAKER_00]: coaching failure on both sides of the ball, but when you're the head coach, like you're going to get that front of it because I was thinking this after the game on Monday night and even a little bit today is I'm sitting here and I'm kind of asking myself the same type of questions I was asking myself during the DA era of like what is what is the identity of this
- 5:49[SPEAKER_00]: like Chuck has to play like hero ball for them to have a chance to win.
- 5:54[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes Brandon's daily is in a defense play the above his head but then the off like what is the identity of this team like I couldn't I couldn't tell you what it is right now.
- 6:01[SPEAKER_00]: I know what it wants to be like you could.
- 6:04[SPEAKER_00]: Gling from what they invested in the offensive line last year first from picking banks.
- 6:09[SPEAKER_00]: What they invested in, David Edwards this year, them, 61 million dollars that he got, adding Travis HN, adding a tie-in to, you know, adding two tie-dens with fan and delp to go more 12, 13 personnel.
- 6:24[SPEAKER_00]: And the crazy thing is that Raiders game, they were using 12 or 13 people personality, it was work.
- 6:28[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's like, what I came to tell you with this, this offense is right now.
- 6:32[SPEAKER_00]: What if I could, could not tell you.
- 6:33[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, it's like a, like a running shoot off.
- 6:38[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a, it's, it's like a, like a almost like a college offense in the sense that it's, you know, it spreads you out, it spreads you out.
- 6:46[SPEAKER_01]: And like,
- 6:48[SPEAKER_01]: pick your poison.
- 6:49[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying is like pick pick where you can like that's just where this awful to is.
- 6:53[SPEAKER_01]: It's not it's not a Kyle Shannon hand like paint by numbers offense.
- 6:57[SPEAKER_01]: No.
- 6:58[SPEAKER_01]: It's not.
- 7:00[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's not offense that dictates to the defense in very much offense that the defense dictates what the offense can do like that's what the offense is.
- 7:12[SPEAKER_01]: So it and it's like we the thing is like the offense wasn't really different versus the Falcons than it's been all year.
- 7:20[SPEAKER_01]: It just didn't work as well right against the Falcons and the defense didn't keep them in the game.
- 7:46[SPEAKER_01]: I mean this court, you know, I mean I know the final touch of down was the garbage trash touched down, but you know this court 24 points of whatever which has been consistently they scored by 20 something.
- 7:56[SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy.
- 7:56[SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy.
- 7:58[SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy.
- 7:59[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 7:59[SPEAKER_01]: And it won't get out.
- 8:03[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, down.
- 8:09[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, the offense is just kind of been what it was and it's but it's always been this kind of high wire and every Yes, you're depending on Chris or live in a big amazing catches you depending on Devon Villita make amazing catches you depending on you know Joined Johnson and make a couple of moves and make a couple of people miss it depending on Shut to get out of structure sometimes escape the pocket stand in the in the barrel of a gun and just take blast It's after hits while making it like and he'd be getting all in toggle
- 8:39[SPEAKER_01]: it gets done for making on target throws.
- 8:41[SPEAKER_01]: You depend on that week the week and some weeks it just ain't going work like that, bro.
- 8:45[SPEAKER_01]: Like it just ain't, man.
- 8:47[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's all we don't live.
- 8:49[SPEAKER_01]: And that's that's the same's identity right now.
- 8:51[SPEAKER_01]: Let's dive in.
- 8:53[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to Will for Roberts who just became a SPP YouTube member, shout out Will for appreciate you and then treat your true preacher with the 49-year-old super chat, much love said, a preach, more's face annoys me, he should go up here and go to, or at least a soul patch, I hate you face, I hate you face, I hate you face, but that's really, right
- 9:21[UNKNOWN]: real.
- 9:22[SPEAKER_00]: I also want to give a shout out to like all our viewers and listeners in a weird wild way that our Monday night football recap part that we did on Monday.
- 9:35[SPEAKER_00]: is upwards of like 6,000 views on YouTube, which is by far our biggest YouTube video we've done since we've gone YouTube heavy.
- 9:46[SPEAKER_00]: And I get it, like people were pissed wolf like they said, we gotta let it out be listening to our guy and talk about what happened.
- 9:57[SPEAKER_00]: So we appreciate it that we keep it 100.
- 10:00[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
- 10:07[SPEAKER_00]: That, that empathy hits real quick, bro.
- 10:10[SPEAKER_00]: It's real, it's real quick.
- 10:14[SPEAKER_01]: Well for that, I remember the day as we was big and people to take a song's ticket.
- 10:19[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, here's two.
- 10:19[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like
- 10:34[SPEAKER_00]: Hemisphere said when Kellen, when Kellen makes Bobby A.
- 10:38[SPEAKER_00]: Bear in Newsmick, I was just saying if he does not have the team more prepared than that, Bobby said he will get fired.
- 10:43[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, Matt, I said this in our discord, but I said, what happened against the Falcons was almost a carbine copy and I get people or quick to say shit is just preseason.
- 10:58[SPEAKER_00]: There is so much to like, and not just just preseason because we saw this dating back to last season what Kelly and how now the team kind of came, like, did just show it to be unprepared.
- 11:08[SPEAKER_00]: Also, what are they doing in the dome at home games where the sales players, especially on office, are like sliding all the time?
- 11:16[SPEAKER_00]: Have you noticed that?
- 11:17[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 11:18[SPEAKER_00]: That's an attention to detail thing because that means you're probably not running the right cleats, but that's neither here nor there.
- 11:23[SPEAKER_00]: But I remember watching that ram, I was there and so far, all these fucking stadiums out here in LA.
- 11:29[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just, and it was just like, did these?
- 11:32[SPEAKER_00]: Like, did they know they had a game today?
- 11:35[SPEAKER_00]: Did they know they got a game to do it?
- 11:38[SPEAKER_00]: And I talked about on the recap part and people just were just so like,
- 11:43[SPEAKER_00]: with so much vitriol just like it was just preseason they had all these joint practices early and it's like it's not like y'all are missing the point like the team was not prepared the team as a whole did not believe did not but look like they belonged on the field against the rain was back up and it just felt like that Monday night football game because the Falcons was just
- 12:05[SPEAKER_00]: and expansion of that on just a much bigger stage in a regular season game.
- 12:09[SPEAKER_00]: Like they just didn't look prepared.
- 12:11[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't look like they belonged on the same fucking field as Falcons.
- 12:16[SPEAKER_00]: And you can't continue.
- 12:19[SPEAKER_00]: to have a team completely be unprepared, because I was looking after schedule with if they have, they got the Vikings game.
- 12:26[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about if we think they'll win or lose that game.
- 12:29[SPEAKER_00]: But after that, it's Vikings, Giants, and then the Paris game against Steelers.
- 12:35[SPEAKER_00]: There's a chance, there's a chance that they may be on a, like a four game, lose this recated into that Steelers game.
- 12:45[SPEAKER_01]: And that's it was a game made.
- 12:46[SPEAKER_01]: I'm being did.
- 12:47[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be like a e. And no, I'm a preparation.
- 12:51[SPEAKER_01]: Playing overseas is all about preparation.
- 12:54[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
- 12:55[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, 60% of,
- 12:58[SPEAKER_01]: What's going to cause you to win or lose is how you prepare to play overseas, how you manage time, how you manage they all go to play.
- 13:05[SPEAKER_01]: We saw how it back to the match, we made it.
- 13:07[SPEAKER_00]: The Rams when they're whole Australia thing.
- 13:10[SPEAKER_01]: And they had one of the better, the best head coaches in the league was Sean McBay.
- 13:14[SPEAKER_00]: And he came on said, I fucked up.
- 13:16[SPEAKER_00]: Like we fucked up that whole whole thing.
- 13:21[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of like, I have no face.
- 13:24[SPEAKER_01]: I have no face.
- 13:25[SPEAKER_01]: Um, me just got to show me, but that's been the hallmark of the killing more experience so far.
- 13:31[SPEAKER_01]: It's unprepared.
- 13:32[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 13:33[SPEAKER_01]: I'm prepared.
- 13:34[SPEAKER_01]: We're going back to last season.
- 13:36[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 13:36[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, we like, we understood that last season was like, you know, a
- 13:41[SPEAKER_01]: no talent on it's end we get it like we completely understood that but it was the same thing a lot of that going in the Seattle um yes it was a tough super tough environment we get it but they looked completely unprepared like they'd never prepared for a loud roll game you know saying they just were completely overwhelmed we just see it over and over and now the flip
- 14:07[SPEAKER_01]: We have to see this team be resilient.
- 14:10[SPEAKER_01]: We have to see a nice team bounce back.
- 14:13[SPEAKER_01]: Like us, but it's like, at some point it's like, all right, we're getting a little tired out of resilience.
- 14:19[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
- 14:20[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, just do it right from the beginning so you don't have to be resilient in response to that.
- 14:27[SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing what I'm saying.
- 14:29[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, you know, like, there is some positive there, but man, like there's, there's some things that really, really needs to be fixed.
- 14:38[SPEAKER_01]: And now he's to the point where there's nothing he could say that a big people like, like, you got to show it.
- 14:44[SPEAKER_01]: Like, no people listen to his press conferences, it's just like, pressure up, pressure up, you ain't saying enough.
- 14:50[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, I didn't bring it up during the recap part, but it was just on my radar and I tweeted about it.
- 14:56[SPEAKER_00]: the whole Christian Miller being an active thing.
- 14:59[SPEAKER_00]: It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, like their super power is running the ball with an elite star running back.
- 15:09[SPEAKER_00]: And you drafted a second year defensive tackle where his elite trait is being a run stuff like a run stopper.
- 15:17[SPEAKER_00]: And people was like, my mentor's like, well, he was injured.
- 15:19[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he practiced fully like the last two days before the Monday night football game.
- 15:24[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't have a injury designation, which means he was completely healthy to play on Monday night.
- 15:29[SPEAKER_00]: And they made him a Mac different than when they asked him about it on Tuesday, I think it was, I don't know, yeah, Tuesday.
- 15:34[SPEAKER_00]: They were like, oh, we didn't feel like he had enough time on task.
- 15:38[SPEAKER_00]: What?
- 15:39[SPEAKER_00]: What is going on?
- 15:40[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, thank you.
- 15:42[SPEAKER_00]: What, you stack, stack to center.
- 15:47[SPEAKER_01]: What?
- 15:49[SPEAKER_00]: That's like that shit like that.
- 15:50[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like it.
- 15:51[SPEAKER_00]: What, um, uh, girl Sam Niels Jr. said, good evening, fellas.
- 15:56[SPEAKER_00]: So you, thank we are heading for a coaching change again.
- 16:00[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to ask this to Wolf.
- 16:01[SPEAKER_00]: So I think you've written up there.
- 16:03[SPEAKER_00]: If they lose, Vikings game through the Steelers game, and it does not look good from Vikings against the Silver's game, and they go into that
- 16:19[SPEAKER_01]: My, my, I guess I would start wondering, okay, what, what is the team atmosphere?
- 16:25[SPEAKER_01]: Cause we saw last year, last year they, they, you know, they tough through it, you know, had long losing streak and stuff like that.
- 16:32[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of power through with something to leadership.
- 16:34[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, leadership is going now, you know, the team is going, Cam Jordan stood there and he has some interesting comments after the game.
- 16:44[SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of his gone, but I like,
- 16:46[SPEAKER_01]: Will they be able to push through a long loose and streak this year with the expectations just wrapped up a little more?
- 16:52[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to Paris?
- 16:55[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 16:56[SPEAKER_01]: We're not saying it's going to happen, but say they lose to the Vikings, then lose to the Giants.
- 16:59[SPEAKER_01]: And then go out to Paris and lay a egg out there, when Gale Benson just was showing nipples
- 17:13[SPEAKER_01]: So he was to get that game out there in Paris.
- 17:19[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted that game out there.
- 17:21[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't.
- 17:21[SPEAKER_01]: Go out there and let it air your front the fridge.
- 17:24[SPEAKER_01]: And then you're going to buy a bro.
- 17:26[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're going to buy a week just stinking.
- 17:29[SPEAKER_00]: I've said, bro, it would be very unsafe.
- 17:33[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, but at that point, they would be one in.
- 17:39[SPEAKER_00]: So they're one in three right now.
- 17:43[SPEAKER_00]: one in six, one in six, one in five, we're just going to, okay, sorry, one, three, four, five, yeah, one in six.
- 17:49[SPEAKER_00]: They'd be one in six going into a bar with facing the browns after the bar.
- 17:57[SPEAKER_01]: It's just one of those things that can get out of hand.
- 17:59[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen it happen, but I haven't seen it happen with the Saints.
- 18:02[SPEAKER_01]: I'll put it like that.
- 18:03[SPEAKER_01]: No, they've just been, I've always been super patient.
- 18:06[SPEAKER_01]: I've always happened.
- 18:08[SPEAKER_00]: I just keep saying on Twitter, people, or in my mentions about like, I think it 100% depends on how it looks.
- 18:18[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 18:20[SPEAKER_00]: You, they can't have these next three games looking like Monday night football.
- 18:25[SPEAKER_00]: If these next three games look like Monday night football,
- 18:28[SPEAKER_00]: Like, all options are on the table at that point.
- 18:31[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you can't have that.
- 18:33[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you make such a salient fantastic point during the recap part where you said,
- 18:39[SPEAKER_00]: It becomes worrying for Tyler's shock.
- 18:41[SPEAKER_00]: Like we've seen what he can do at his like, not even his apex, but like we've seen what he could do.
- 18:47[SPEAKER_00]: But the amount of times he's getting fucking crushed when he's dropping back to the type of his state he's taking.
- 18:53[SPEAKER_00]: The feedback loop.
- 18:54[SPEAKER_00]: It just, this is how you ruin young quarterbacks, not to mention the face of the Vikings, Kevin O'Connell.
- 19:01[SPEAKER_00]: That, that, you know, that very famous statement is that young quarterbacks don't fail organizations fail young quarterbacks.
- 19:08[SPEAKER_00]: And right now, what the same sort of doing even even in week one, right?
- 19:16[SPEAKER_00]: They are not setting him up for success.
- 19:20[SPEAKER_00]: You would think that with all the investment and first round pick, second round pick, guard, and I get it.
- 19:26[SPEAKER_00]: Banks is out, you've got to back up less tackle.
- 19:28[SPEAKER_00]: But like, even the back up left tackle thing is a little bit like,
- 19:34[SPEAKER_00]: I see the cheaps out her undefeated with the undrafted free agent rookie at left tackle.
- 19:39[SPEAKER_00]: I just watched Monday night football where Jake Bathews gets hurt.
- 19:43[SPEAKER_00]: Their backup goes in.
- 19:45[SPEAKER_00]: It's home.
- 19:46[SPEAKER_00]: Rough like that.
- 19:46[SPEAKER_00]: The train just kept fucking pushing.
- 19:49[SPEAKER_00]: So like I don't want it in like this injury stuff.
- 19:51[SPEAKER_00]: Like people were in our TikTok comms like they're injured.
- 19:55[SPEAKER_00]: Every fucking team is injured in the body.
- 19:57[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck it NFL.
- 19:58[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody.
- 19:59[SPEAKER_00]: Burn.
- 20:00[SPEAKER_00]: And like the commanders had so many injuries and beat the seahawks when they were undefeated.
- 20:05[SPEAKER_00]: Like King's figure out how to win, bro.
- 20:09[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't know how to make this succinct and get people to understand it.
- 20:13[SPEAKER_00]: Like this team can't utilize that injury, excuse again.
- 20:17[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember the year that they used it.
- 20:19[SPEAKER_00]: That's out the window when you have almost every fucking NFL team injured.
- 20:24[SPEAKER_01]: straight up straight up man.
- 20:26[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the thing.
- 20:27[SPEAKER_01]: I had I am worried about shook him.
- 20:28[SPEAKER_01]: He's on peace for 51 sex.
- 20:32[SPEAKER_01]: If you know if things continue, how do you all look quarter the sex or record a bad state.
- 20:37[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like yes, it's all on office.
- 20:39[SPEAKER_01]: When I was somebody that's on him, it's stuff like that.
- 20:41[SPEAKER_01]: But he's getting hit a lot, man.
- 20:42[SPEAKER_01]: He's getting hit.
- 20:44[SPEAKER_01]: way too much and it's like, it's almost like it's a part of the offense where he's expected to get hits.
- 20:51[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
- 20:52[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, hey man, look, it's 3rd and 11.
- 20:54[SPEAKER_01]: I gotta get it.
- 20:57[SPEAKER_01]: I gotta get it.
- 20:57[SPEAKER_01]: I gotta get it.
- 20:58[SPEAKER_01]: How you live, brother?
- 21:01[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying, and second round pick with a guaranteed contract, but he like I've seen that exact thing happened like with Kurt Warner when he was with Mike Martin with the round.
- 21:11[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, where he was just taking beaten up the beaten taking those big deep shots and it ruined him.
- 21:18[SPEAKER_01]: Like it literally ruined him where he was
- 21:21[SPEAKER_01]: a bat, like he would to be a backup for the Giants behind Eli, you know what I'm saying?
- 21:24[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 21:25[SPEAKER_01]: We need to go with the Cardinals.
- 21:26[SPEAKER_01]: He was a backup for the Cardinals.
- 21:27[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody expected him to kind of come back alive like he did and have like that great run to the Super Bowl, but like those things run players, man, and I just hope they don't get to that point because I know Kelly is.
- 21:39[SPEAKER_01]: I see what you want about Kelly, he's smart with quarterbacks, he understands, he understands that which is why a soul just like dump founded is that he's letting this continue like you can't that he can't I I could see it in killing that he understands the issues that's going on like he sees the problems but
- 21:57[SPEAKER_01]: He can't think of it.
- 21:59[SPEAKER_01]: But he's not a problem.
- 22:00[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what good are you a head coach if you see the problem, but you're not a problem's offer?
- 22:03[SPEAKER_00]: Like what did a crime show?
- 22:05[SPEAKER_00]: What do you, what do you brains of the table?
- 22:07[SPEAKER_00]: What, what do you even hear for?
- 22:10[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, those are the best hay coaches in the league.
- 22:12[SPEAKER_01]: They're problem-solves, man.
- 22:13[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they constantly call out problems.
- 22:16[SPEAKER_01]: They constantly get teams through the crisis.
- 22:20[SPEAKER_01]: That's what, you know, made Sean Payton a great day coach.
- 22:23[SPEAKER_01]: That's how you have to do it, man.
- 22:24[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he has not shown yet that he could solve some of the major problems.
- 22:29[SPEAKER_01]: He could solve some of them, but that's some of the major problems you face called week to week in NFL.
- 22:35[SPEAKER_00]: I know people tuning into this list to a bike into a preview pile, we'll get to it.
- 22:39[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's honestly not a whole bunch of talk, like it is, but it is, it can also kind of like, is it like this game is very kind of straight, and we're gonna get into it.
- 22:49[SPEAKER_00]: Just cut you up on the chat real quick.
- 22:51[SPEAKER_00]: I do Watt's Chris at the same seven best of two million in contract with the office online, just to be a bottom half of the league unit is on the front office and coaches that.
- 22:58[SPEAKER_00]: It is a 100%, I'm gonna even say, I lean more coaching,
- 23:03[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 23:03[SPEAKER_00]: Because I saw what this offensive line looked like for a couple of weeks on the Clint Kubiak when they had like a journeyman, Lucas Patrick at left garden and Lucas Patrick for the first three weeks was looking like one of the best guy damn guards in football, Nigger.
- 23:20[SPEAKER_00]: We had Caesar Wies had like, so they had bounty bounty breakdowns on Caesar Wies.
- 23:25[SPEAKER_00]: Like what?
- 23:25[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's coaching.
- 23:28[SPEAKER_01]: it's co-coated, or he had shit, right?
- 23:31[SPEAKER_01]: Like for what they had, what they had a great one his, you know, his work his season was considered like a really good, you know, work his season and, you know, he's taken it up.
- 23:40[SPEAKER_01]: I see a lot of people like me.
- 23:41[SPEAKER_01]: He's trying, he's playing a trash, fire was not playing a trash, he's fine.
- 23:45[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's playing fine.
- 23:47[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's fine.
- 23:48[SPEAKER_01]: Like I saw people's call him Trevor Pinnon and stuff.
- 23:50[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, it's nowhere near that.
- 23:52[SPEAKER_01]: It's not that, but you may expect more use or draft it
- 23:57[SPEAKER_01]: 10 times 11.
- 23:58[SPEAKER_00]: It was right.
- 23:58[SPEAKER_00]: It was right after Brock Bowers.
- 24:01[SPEAKER_00]: They go 12.
- 24:03[SPEAKER_01]: 12.
- 24:03[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 24:04[SPEAKER_01]: So you want like in his third year you want more like you want more from your your right to have you want him to be this kind of solidify be among one of those top 10 right tackles in the league, you know, I'm saying he's not that right now.
- 24:17[SPEAKER_01]: He has his struggles.
- 24:18[SPEAKER_01]: Most of the struggles are in the Runk game.
- 24:20[SPEAKER_01]: He says some some lapses in the past game, but the Runk game has been very disappointed.
- 24:24[SPEAKER_00]: Which is so that's a very disappointing thing when you think about his profile coming out.
- 24:29[SPEAKER_00]: Michael Morgan with the one I now superchised said, I think the Vikings reports a lot of turnovers.
- 24:34[SPEAKER_00]: I think they will too.
- 24:37[SPEAKER_01]: I hope not man.
- 24:38[SPEAKER_01]: I hope not because that's the thing.
- 24:39[SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing about this offense is the deep well really the defense can't afford for the offense to the big turtle It's because one the doubt the deep the defense doesn't create turnovers No, I wasn't thinking I went in a section on a year.
- 24:51[SPEAKER_00]: What was it?
- 24:52[SPEAKER_00]: What went in a section?
- 24:53[SPEAKER_01]: She didn't have to force Fumble That's why like when when Kenjrey Miller fumble that ball.
- 24:58[SPEAKER_01]: It just felt like it was over right there You fumble that ball against the crowd.
- 25:01[SPEAKER_01]: It was like just right, but I mean that was like the first quarter It's like let's just go home right now for his old
- 25:10[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to check out the other chapter before we take our first break.
- 25:13[SPEAKER_00]: Jack Hunter said, what is so frustrating?
- 25:16[SPEAKER_00]: What is so frustrating is do the saints up her management even know that the problems, the problems are other than getting else.
- 25:22[SPEAKER_00]: We need solutions in action.
- 25:24[SPEAKER_00]: I think there are some people in front of us that understand what the problems are.
- 25:29[SPEAKER_00]: And I think there may be others who, I don't know, ignorance is bliss, type of thing.
- 25:38[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, a lot of people in there know what it's supposed to look like.
- 25:41[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
- 25:42[SPEAKER_01]: I know aren't right there.
- 25:44[SPEAKER_01]: Like, so I'm pretty sure that a lot of them are looking like the same.
- 25:48[SPEAKER_01]: They're seeing how it's supposed to look, bro.
- 25:50[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm saying that and you have so many legends in the building on Monday that saw that the buckle, all of them knows that it's not that's not how it's supposed to look.
- 26:01[SPEAKER_00]: And they, you know, have some pretty strong voices that they can utilize.
- 26:05[SPEAKER_00]: So all that to say,
- 26:08[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna, I'm gonna ask you this question and we're gonna take a break and have you answer it after we come back after the break, but all we'll ask before I hit the button before we go to break is if there was a potential way that Sean Payton could become the same tech coach in the off season.
- 26:34[SPEAKER_00]: How'd you feel about that?
- 26:35[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna take our first break
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- 26:46[SPEAKER_01]: And it's weird, bro, because I'm kind of known to get my sleep all.
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- 27:17[SPEAKER_00]: If you are a Saints fan and at nighttime, you're thinking about Marcus Williams missing that tackle.
- 27:21[SPEAKER_00]: You're thinking about that.
- 27:22[SPEAKER_00]: No call.
- 27:23[SPEAKER_00]: You're thinking about burning Davis, where I'll be sitting there for you.
- 27:27[SPEAKER_01]: Just looking at the ceiling,
- 27:33[SPEAKER_01]: Angola, I was trying to scapegoat.
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- 28:41[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, if I ask you a question before we went to our first break, I ask you, Tom Peyton was available in the off season when it'd come home.
- 28:50[SPEAKER_00]: Will you take him back?
- 28:52[SPEAKER_01]: From me, of course, when I took him back, well, like, that would be a immediate coaching upgrade, like, immediately.
- 28:58[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it would course it would, man.
- 29:00[SPEAKER_01]: But I would have my reservations about it, though, like, I would rather I would prefer to keep the search going for the right guy to lead us into the future and just move on from that era, like,
- 29:15[SPEAKER_01]: Even like just looking at this past game and there, you know, all the talk about the don't come in and all that stuff, as you know, it's like, you know, touching it as it was, it's almost like damn man, it's time to make some loop members, you know what I'm saying?
- 29:27[SPEAKER_01]: Like we still holding on to this era, beautiful era, don't get me wrong, but it's like man, at some point you've got to run like,
- 29:34[SPEAKER_01]: like when Ben Affleck went back with Jean-Louis, like, here's after they were.
- 29:39[SPEAKER_01]: It's like I get it, bro.
- 29:40[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, she, you know, that's Jay Lowe.
- 29:43[SPEAKER_01]: She's still in Jean-Louis, but you know, I just go in, bro.
- 29:45[SPEAKER_01]: Like, people who doesn't say anything.
- 29:46[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we don't, you know what I'm saying?
- 29:48[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, they go in well, bad.
- 29:51[SPEAKER_01]: That with someone is like,
- 29:53[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't know, man.
- 29:54[SPEAKER_01]: Like Sean could always go ahead and be shaking on the sideline, bro.
- 29:57[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like Sean, Sean is so slick but I feel like he'd be using that shit as just like his guitar.
- 30:03[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna get, you know, he get a lot of that big check.
- 30:06[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna write that big check.
- 30:08[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, she's right at that.
- 30:09[SPEAKER_01]: I think he got a little bit, if he got Mickey out the paint.
- 30:14[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
- 30:16[SPEAKER_00]: Sean's a title right there.
- 30:17[SPEAKER_00]: Sean's all got, I'll come back, but Mickey got to go if I come back.
- 30:28[SPEAKER_00]: That would be the, you talk about a southern and soap opera.
- 30:33[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of, that would be, it's great.
- 30:37[SPEAKER_00]: Great rules of tone and learning shit for what love it would love it would love it.
- 30:42[SPEAKER_00]: uh... let's get into this Vikings preview we didn't do we didn't do x factors in matches of this game that's time time content that was jimmy fox or brion florid in one they got a close that you know you don't just fight with it uh... chemical good-hat coach in the league brion florids everyone knows about brion florids and is uh... aggressive super super aggressive defenses um... they're the
- 31:10[SPEAKER_00]: We just talked about all of this thing about Chuck taking hits and shit.
- 31:12[SPEAKER_00]: There's a number one team in the NFL.
- 31:14[SPEAKER_01]: This is like every week we put face to the number one QB person in every week because they're possible.
- 31:22[SPEAKER_00]: Played a face this week.
- 31:23[SPEAKER_00]: Number one QB pressure.
- 31:25[SPEAKER_01]: What the hell.
- 31:27[SPEAKER_00]: And the crazy day is.
- 31:29[SPEAKER_00]: At least with the least that that Raiders game the Falcus game the Vikings game that Raiders game It didn't look like they were but then by the fourth quarter like okay, here's the past rush That Falcus game bro felt it all game.
- 31:45[SPEAKER_00]: It was there all game along so like name the pants rush
- 31:49[SPEAKER_00]: can, uh, ubic, ubicam was the only one I could fucking tell you.
- 31:52[SPEAKER_00]: You know, other than that, bro.
- 31:54[SPEAKER_00]: No, no idea.
- 31:55[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but the Vikings are the first in quarterback pressure percentage.
- 31:59[SPEAKER_00]: First, uh, Brian Flores is sending blitzes 67% of the time.
- 32:07[SPEAKER_00]: He leaves it by far, by far, and here's the thing while I talk about earlier about the rushing, they're fit in rush EPA allowed, meaning they may take their heavy top five defense in terms of stopping the opponent's team's running game.
- 32:23[SPEAKER_00]: Although I will say,
- 32:25[SPEAKER_00]: the dolphins with Ali Gordon, and this was HM went out.
- 32:30[SPEAKER_00]: Doppers ran all over the Vikings last week.
- 32:33[SPEAKER_00]: They ran all over, but the Saints can't really run the ball and Travis, HM, and healthy.
- 32:38[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see the part where it gets interesting, where you're like, ooh, if this team can win it, we're gonna be there.
- 32:46[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna, it's Drew Breeze, a ring of honor, induction in New Orleans and all that.
- 32:52[SPEAKER_00]: So it's, and he's calling the game.
- 32:56[SPEAKER_00]: Like we had this streak in terms of meetup games where we don't lose meetup games and we lost our first meetup game last year when the Saints played the Patriots.
- 33:03[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to go as much as like, and I'm kind of where you are too to a degree bruh.
- 33:09[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, man, I don't want it to be draft season already bruh.
- 33:12[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know.
- 33:14[SPEAKER_01]: What did we already, already, already dropped season?
- 33:18[SPEAKER_00]: I, I, I, I, I swear to God, if they do not win a game between now and there by week, we're doing a Jeremiah Smith prospect of the week episode during the fight.
- 33:28[SPEAKER_00]: I don't do it, bro, we, we, we, we already, put it off there already, bro.
- 33:32[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but the parts where I think there's a chance where the Saints may be able to win this game is that the Vikings offense has been absolute dog shit.
- 33:41[SPEAKER_00]: awful, awful, awful, just in Jefferson status for the game is TBD.
- 33:46[SPEAKER_00]: He might not play.
- 33:47[SPEAKER_00]: They may give him another week in regards to that ankle injury.
- 33:50[SPEAKER_00]: They're 18th in points per game.
- 33:52[SPEAKER_00]: This is what by far a Kevin O'Connor's worst biking's office that he's had since he's taken over as biking's head coach, Kyle and Mary while annoying has not comfortable in that system.
- 34:03[SPEAKER_00]: So this is like that's where
- 34:06[SPEAKER_00]: The Saints have consistently put up 20 plus points in all their games.
- 34:12[SPEAKER_00]: Even last week is kind of misleading because the Scarborough system, they're honest, you're probably really only sort of really score 17 points, but they score that last touchdown at the end in Scarborough's time.
- 34:21[SPEAKER_00]: But they've been able to put up points consistently in all their games, even that Falcons game, they at least put up 17 points.
- 34:29[SPEAKER_00]: The Vikings have a tough time scoring period.
- 34:31[SPEAKER_00]: If the Saints are going to find a way to win, it's going to be by the offense, being able to put up points in the board in the defense, potentially being able to keep a Vikings offense that has struggled, continuing to struggle.
- 34:46[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, I mean, and the defense, like, oh, you did gotta show me some pride, have to play the show Monday night.
- 34:54[SPEAKER_01]: You gotta show me some pride, man, because it was to the point where, towards the end of that game,
- 35:01[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, you know, just read on Twitter, just crashing out, uh, it was, it was embarrassing.
- 35:10[SPEAKER_01]: So, they got to show some.
- 35:12[SPEAKER_01]: I noted beat up to it.
- 35:13[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like, um, I didn't have the injury report to put up here, but it looks like we'll see with with Kate Nellis, but it looked like just another game.
- 35:22[SPEAKER_01]: He might miss, which is huge, but huge, come on, man.
- 35:26[SPEAKER_01]: This, this office is not great.
- 35:29[SPEAKER_01]: Like, just nut up, I'm just saying nut up and don't let them keep it below 20 at least.
- 35:35[SPEAKER_01]: Keep the offense below 20 and give our offense a chance.
- 35:39[SPEAKER_01]: You know, playing a chance to win this game.
- 35:41[SPEAKER_01]: Cause it's just, it's just not good.
- 35:43[SPEAKER_00]: It isn't.
- 35:45[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the thing that worries me in this game and this is becoming a trend, I've noticed it's just not a great thing to like, as a fan, like if you realize this,
- 35:58[SPEAKER_00]: But like Kelly Moore has had coach like how many times is he like the smarter head coach in a coaching matchup like the better head coach in a coaching matchup right like last week it was Jeff Oldbrook Jeff Oldbrook's had his had his fucking number before the race pockets and his pocket and his pocket and his fucking pockets.
- 36:22[SPEAKER_00]: now he's going to get his Brian Flores.
- 36:23[SPEAKER_00]: Like do you do you trust Killing more in a Brian Flores?
- 36:26[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
- 36:27[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
- 36:28[SPEAKER_00]: So do you trust Kevin, like Kevin O'Connell and Brandon Staley, like, like, I think I might just, like, even after the last two, like, damn, do I really trust Brandon Staley that much now?
- 36:37[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know, bro.
- 36:39[SPEAKER_00]: But like, how can this, how can this same-steamed beat the undefeated Vikings all Sunday meet-up gang?
- 36:46[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna be in the dome.
- 36:48[SPEAKER_00]: How can they do?
- 36:49[SPEAKER_00]: How can they pull it off?
- 36:50[SPEAKER_01]: I've been wrecking my brain, bro.
- 36:52[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was watching some of the Vegas defense at all 22, I was just watching at third down snaps against the bucks.
- 36:59[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, it's easy to think like, oh, just, you know, you got to pick up the places.
- 37:03[SPEAKER_01]: It's not that what makes what Bryan Fuller has done so special is not that he just sends a bunch of guys.
- 37:11[SPEAKER_01]: One pre-snap he shows you a look of like seven, seven guys on the line.
- 37:18[SPEAKER_01]: It's looking like the bottom of the pressure.
- 37:20[SPEAKER_01]: mugging, you know, mugging up every gap right there.
- 37:23[SPEAKER_01]: So, one, you don't know who is gonna rush, but you look at that, you don't know who's gonna rush.
- 37:29[SPEAKER_01]: He sometimes he will rush everybody.
- 37:31[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes he will drop one or two.
- 37:32[SPEAKER_01]: You know, no, who's going to drop?
- 37:33[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes he's dropping a couple of defensive tack on a defensive ramp.
- 37:36[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it's a linebacker and a defensive tackle.
- 37:39[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it's a corner.
- 37:40[SPEAKER_01]: And he tries to create matchups with the front to get your their best pass rush.
- 37:47[SPEAKER_01]: You may see, you may see Dallas Turner, lined up on CJ Donaldson.
- 37:54[SPEAKER_01]: like, good luck, you know what I'm saying?
- 37:55[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he, that's what he does.
- 37:58[SPEAKER_01]: And on top of that, in the back end, it's like he has them trained to understand it.
- 38:04[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 38:05[SPEAKER_01]: they know the blitz is coming.
- 38:07[SPEAKER_01]: So we got to take a route or take away the hot route too.
- 38:10[SPEAKER_01]: So, say, do you want a Jackson is running across it?
- 38:13[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to drop a defensive tackle or defensive end.
- 38:17[SPEAKER_01]: In that lane where, do you want a Jackson is running to put that on?
- 38:21[SPEAKER_01]: So that causes the quarterback to help it all.
- 38:24[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to do it.
- 38:25[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want a Jackson immediately?
- 38:27[SPEAKER_01]: It's not there.
- 38:27[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, now he comes to pass first.
- 38:30[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough, bro.
- 38:31[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough.
- 38:32[SPEAKER_01]: and look I haven't seen anybody crack the code yet this year but like it's been tough now you there if you watch a long enough you do see cracks in their secondary and secondary is not very good you just got to find a way to block it up man I don't know how and this thing's team like this blocking scheme
- 38:51[SPEAKER_01]: I have no feet, bro.
- 38:53[SPEAKER_01]: No feet whatsoever.
- 38:54[SPEAKER_00]: Broward, you know, bar floors is going to get a Dallas turn in line up against us.
- 38:59[SPEAKER_00]: I saw him richer so many times.
- 39:00[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, yeah, he's at the thing with that.
- 39:05[SPEAKER_01]: You only have to try like, cause Kelly's just going to leave him out there.
- 39:08[SPEAKER_01]: Just so little, little bro.
- 39:11[SPEAKER_01]: You got good luck 72 figure it out, nigga.
- 39:14[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
- 39:16[SPEAKER_01]: Why, why pay you for it?
- 39:17[SPEAKER_01]: There'd be so big Bryan Flores like, like, this is like his least blitz game.
- 39:21[SPEAKER_01]: You need to, we need to, we need to, we need to, we need to blitz, bro.
- 39:24[SPEAKER_00]: Like, just, just, just, just, just system four just, we're gonna drop, we're gonna drop, drop seven, we good, we good.
- 39:30[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing is, like, they even have players, like, fucking Calvin, no, we playing out of, out of his mind.
- 39:35[SPEAKER_00]: Like, man, man, he was just been just chilling out there, bro.
- 39:39[SPEAKER_00]: He was on the bike and his practice squad and they elevate him through, like, he's been playing crazy,
- 39:45[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the, you borrowed the secondary.
- 39:48[SPEAKER_00]: Can we, can we talk about maybe this whole, because there's a lot of A, like controversy in terms of like, what's going on personally?
- 39:58[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 40:00[SPEAKER_01]: Cause nobody believed Kellenberg.
- 40:02[SPEAKER_01]: Kellenberg was like, look, man, he's just having a dear wrist.
- 40:05[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody like, man, we sold it.
- 40:08[SPEAKER_01]: He took on eddy and get up.
- 40:11[SPEAKER_01]: and take yourself out of the game, like he's like, get me out of here, you know what I'm saying?
- 40:14[SPEAKER_01]: Like, come on man, I'll play with me.
- 40:18[SPEAKER_01]: But he's just rest.
- 40:20[SPEAKER_01]: And there's like speculation that he was at a hospital.
- 40:23[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I don't know, I'm confirmed that.
- 40:28[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't prefer.
- 40:30[SPEAKER_00]: Bowers posted it like, like, it was facts though.
- 40:32[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, I will hear more about it.
- 40:36[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to, I'm trying to confirm it.
- 40:38[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm trying to pin it down.
- 40:41[SPEAKER_00]: All that to say, if Crystal Lave is unable to go on Sunday because of being in a, well, one, he should hit none of the start, like the starter starter should have been in the game in that drive period.
- 40:54[SPEAKER_00]: But if he can't play on Sunday because of a, like a hit, he took an meaningless football in garbage time and he's your best weapon on offense.
- 41:04[SPEAKER_00]: to me that that from the jump is a fireball offense like you like what are you doing and we'll see today's Wednesday he may come back to practice who shook was limited to the he was limited with his hand with his hand injury luckily this is non-throwing hand but still you know I'm saying like taking the snaps under center and all that that matters you
- 41:26[SPEAKER_00]: uh... bike Vikings wild wolf so i'm guessing the Vikings fans the shook averages thirty completions a game and the biking secondary is due to is it is but like the thing that's worrisome as if you're a saying span is the office line is not played well majority of the season
- 41:47[SPEAKER_00]: And the Vikings defensive line and their defensive scheme in general, like they are designed and scheme to take advantage of that.
- 41:56[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's where like the concern comes from because it's like it's like strength versus bad when you have the bike pass rush and the Saints.
- 42:06[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, a bad matchup man.
- 42:08[SPEAKER_01]: He was a bad man.
- 42:08[SPEAKER_01]: He was a bad matchup before we even saw this version of the
- 42:16[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, young Noah, uh, 5044 said, that's why we got a run.
- 42:21[SPEAKER_00]: I feel you, Burr.
- 42:24[SPEAKER_00]: Who?
- 42:25[UNKNOWN]: You know, but.
- 42:27[SPEAKER_01]: You broke, run away.
- 42:28[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Kaker, hey, Kaker.
- 42:30[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know, a back issue.
- 42:32[SPEAKER_01]: You on the edge of your report.
- 42:33[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm saying, sorry, you know, you know, we'll see if he ain't ready to go, but, you know, now you depend on Kenjai, who's been very disappointing.
- 42:42[SPEAKER_01]: I'm highly disappointed in the pitch.
- 42:43[SPEAKER_01]: I'm tired of being disappointed in the pitch, right?
- 42:46[SPEAKER_00]: Get him up.
- 42:46[SPEAKER_01]: But at least in the past, it was like...
- 42:49[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, he's injured, but you know, when he's on the field, you know, he shows some things.
- 42:53[SPEAKER_01]: But now you just, you fumbling, you running in the blockers, you're not hitting the whole, you don't even look exposed to what you're running like, oh, I get to tell them about this.
- 43:03[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, well, I'd rather just find somebody on the street.
- 43:07[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what is the mirror white doing, bro?
- 43:10[SPEAKER_00]: Get him, and bring all the stuff.
- 43:12[SPEAKER_00]: And this is another thing, like Kevin,
- 43:17[SPEAKER_01]: If I see got you all having another rest date of moral and him, you got his big ass out there on Sunday, some wrong man, like something wrong.
- 43:25[SPEAKER_01]: Like you got to stop bitching some pleasure.
- 43:28[SPEAKER_01]: You got to start.
- 43:29[SPEAKER_01]: You know, guys got to lose jobs.
- 43:32[SPEAKER_01]: Like sometimes like that's the only thing that works is like, hey, like hey.
- 43:37[SPEAKER_01]: You might lose your job, do it this, that's okay.
- 43:40[SPEAKER_01]: You have that power as a head coach.
- 43:43[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes you gotta do it, man, like, you gotta shake things up a little bit for our life.
- 43:47[SPEAKER_01]: Nick, Nick is just too comfortable, never.
- 43:50[SPEAKER_00]: Two.
- 43:51[SPEAKER_00]: to come.
- 43:52[SPEAKER_00]: And that's, that's the risk you run with kind of just having the personality that Killing has as a hey coach.
- 43:59[SPEAKER_00]: It's in very much the same being in that Mike McGangio situation, which was with the dolphins, only differences like they had sustained success very early when he got there.
- 44:08[SPEAKER_00]: But like when you
- 44:11[SPEAKER_00]: have that like, yeah, he's like, is he a frizzy a pier?
- 44:15[SPEAKER_01]: He's my coach, but he's like, you get people that's, that's that's comfortable.
- 44:20[SPEAKER_00]: Too comfortable, as you said.
- 44:21[SPEAKER_00]: Our new last Chris said, have you formation, please?
- 44:27[SPEAKER_00]: I can be sure.
- 44:28[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember.
- 44:30[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, to play with it, rolled out a big William Sherman out there, big General Sherman.
- 44:36[SPEAKER_01]: unbalanced line hit all of the meat and girth all the little sides and let's run behind it blown up immediately for a just tackle tackle four laws it's about just it's cracking up because you know it was just you could tell like they probably practices like twice they like oh we got we got one right here right this we bought the redness they
- 45:05[SPEAKER_00]: Um, uh, Brock said I'm a little worried that shook didn't complete anything over the middle on the field on Monday.
- 45:11[SPEAKER_00]: The last thing we need is floor is knowing he doesn't have to defend the whole field.
- 45:14[SPEAKER_00]: That's such a weird thing to me.
- 45:16[SPEAKER_00]: And I was talking about it where,
- 45:19[SPEAKER_00]: last season it was shook super power and his ability to throw over the middle of the field and now like and it seems like it's like designed like there's nothing that does not have to go over the milk it which is insane with the investment that they invested in tight-ends bro it's insane yeah I don't get it I don't get it I don't even have the answer for it I think it's you know I think it's some of it is sample size
- 45:45[SPEAKER_01]: Some of it is game situation just, you know, defenses they go on against, you know, not in safety's, you know, however in the middle of the field, stuff like that, but yeah, it is weird, man.
- 45:56[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to see more because it's like, you know, it should be how to go back and watch, but they should be like opportunities over the middle for them to take advantage.
- 46:06[SPEAKER_00]: Um, will for robbers say, why is in every interview so hard for killing more to take accountability?
- 46:12[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
- 46:12[SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing.
- 46:13[SPEAKER_00]: That's not the same that doesn't bother me with.
- 46:15[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think he takes accountability.
- 46:17[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think he realizes his shortcomings, but then like, they don't get fixed.
- 46:23[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's that's the part that's like, like, I mean, they're asking about the poor start to the game every week.
- 46:34[SPEAKER_01]: under hillby asking about the leaving tackles on the island every week every week like whatever and he just like I don't know he just has like these you know we got to keep working at it but I don't know like I'm saying nothing man like you're not saying anything not the bruh just killing talking just be talking uh one thing i saw in the chat so one's asking for jack hunter say can we see some germar white finally please
- 47:03[SPEAKER_01]: Make it make sense to me, make it make sense to me.
- 47:07[SPEAKER_01]: Even if it's just rotate them in there.
- 47:09[SPEAKER_01]: Like, okay, rotate them in there and run down.
- 47:12[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if it's a tail.
- 47:13[SPEAKER_01]: Just rotate them in there.
- 47:14[SPEAKER_01]: It'll better check you still rotate until your linemen.
- 47:17[SPEAKER_01]: It's all the time.
- 47:18[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, didn't care.
- 47:19[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you trying to do what's work.
- 47:21[SPEAKER_01]: I want to put the best players for the situation on the team.
- 47:24[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do what works, man.
- 47:26[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what are you doing, bro?
- 47:28[SPEAKER_00]: Like, figure it out.
- 47:34[SPEAKER_00]: One thing I will say I think is playing to the St.
- 47:37[SPEAKER_00]: Struggles is we, and again, I want to say this is not me counting any of these players out, but we talked about how important this last draft class, these last two draft classes is for the St. And the fact that this current draft class, you're during Tyson, who's injured.
- 47:54[SPEAKER_00]: Chris and Miller injured back and forth, but then he was healthy.
- 47:58[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't play
- 48:04[SPEAKER_00]: He's not on the same page with Chuck and what have you, you have Oscar Dup who's out there, like, seem like only like one play, like they don't really get him involved in it.
- 48:16[SPEAKER_00]: Black and his ass though, I said, past and game, Jeremiah Wright, like when you are a young team in a rebuilding team, those draft picks, they have to hit and they have to work and get the grounds.
- 48:31[SPEAKER_00]: perfect example.
- 48:32[SPEAKER_00]: And the Saints have not seen a return on their draft picks in last year's draft, which is crazy, because we live probably the most excited draft we've been about a Saint's draft class and forever.
- 48:43[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not to say that these players won't work out, they may not be good, all that.
- 48:47[SPEAKER_00]: But like you, this is how teams who were rebuilding,
- 48:55[SPEAKER_00]: the way you get better is these draft picks, these young players coming in and changing, like the culture and identity of the team and they just have not gotten anything.
- 49:06[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you got a good, very in-brown punt return, you know, that really changed that Raven's game.
- 49:12[SPEAKER_00]: But like as a whole, they haven't gotten much from this draft class at all.
- 49:17[SPEAKER_01]: We get some barren brown in the past game like they did the little they did the fake Just we then they ran a little just people into round.
- 49:26[SPEAKER_01]: They got blown up for like minus two yards Because we'll leave this to block You know that just goes to the larger thing like guys just not execute
- 49:37[SPEAKER_01]: like killing world design it, but you have to teach it and implement it.
- 49:41[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't know, I don't know how else to put it, but like can we get some very important, can we get some passes to Oscar Delp?
- 49:47[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you fluttered the tape with him blocking.
- 49:50[SPEAKER_01]: Now, flood it.
- 49:51[SPEAKER_01]: You can use him in the passing game.
- 49:54[SPEAKER_01]: You might catch him open down the scene or something like that now, because defenses aren't expecting him to be any use in the passing game or stuff like that.
- 50:04[SPEAKER_01]: So try some stuff, man.
- 50:06[SPEAKER_01]: and see if you could get something going, man, because right now it's all just all crystal-lavi and believe, you know, and you want it?
- 50:12[SPEAKER_01]: Let's hit 11 personnel, you know, damn shotgun.
- 50:16[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go again, which is crazy, because like you could argue their best office of performance and Stitz was against the raiders and they were not in 11 personnel.
- 50:26[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of that game.
- 50:26[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of very, very formations and all that.
- 50:30[SPEAKER_00]: So when shout out to our dude James Smart with the 492 project, he said,
- 50:39[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, well fit to fit the winner.
- 50:41[SPEAKER_01]: It was best one blocking game.
- 50:42[SPEAKER_01]: He was in there.
- 50:45[SPEAKER_00]: It's a trash ass game, bro.
- 50:47[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.
- 50:49[SPEAKER_01]: We actually only run block in a thing like that.
- 50:52[SPEAKER_01]: Damn it.
- 50:55[SPEAKER_00]: He was fine on Monday night.
- 50:58[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, let's take our last break of the, uh, the pod will come back and kind of give our predictions.
- 51:02[SPEAKER_00]: Also, feel like we didn't really haven't talked about things that you've been against Vikings offense a lot.
- 51:06[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about that and we'll be right back after this break.
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- 53:02[SPEAKER_00]: I think our do Tony's watching on Twitch.
- 53:05[SPEAKER_00]: I've told it.
- 53:07[SPEAKER_00]: We'll have anyone who have people coming in and out of our Instagram last year, how does this, how does this Saints defense slow down and already struggling Vikings offense?
- 53:20[SPEAKER_00]: And I think in the formula changes a lot, it's just some Jefferson plays.
- 53:22[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, that, you know, that would be a game changer.
- 53:23[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, like Edison, I think he's on an injury or poor, he probably plays, though, um, they signed OBJ, I mean, I don't know, I don't know, yeah, to the practice of the games.
- 53:30[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
- 53:46[SPEAKER_01]: it comes down the collar like they want to like KLC wants to run the ball they haven't really been able to crack the cold with their run game much either right um so i think this is this is like a good opportunity for the same defense just to kind of feel a little better after what they put on the table last week you know i'm saying they have one of the worst run
- 54:11[SPEAKER_01]: Rampus, like his second worst in a league.
- 54:14[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, it's terrible.
- 54:16[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a bit terrible too, like, but when the office is able to get the other office out the run, you know, it's just a long day, you know what I'm saying?
- 54:27[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 54:29[SPEAKER_01]: They go have to stop the word, get collar, the collar is scatter shot, you know, so sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco-sco
- 54:45[SPEAKER_01]: if you're scratching your hair, especially like on dirt down, and stuff like that.
- 54:49[SPEAKER_01]: So this time for Braille to steal it, it makes it up, done, let's stop with all these 15 yard cushions, oh my god.
- 54:55[SPEAKER_01]: On third and six, you know what I'm saying?
- 54:58[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I couldn't, could test somebody's broals, man, you know, play, can we get a turn over to like, can we show some energy and some passion?
- 55:07[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's the biggest thing for me.
- 55:09[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if you miss some players or some players
- 55:13[SPEAKER_01]: Play with passion and energy, man, like I watched, I watched the more you would be without there with the jets, you know, on a jet team, that's, you know,
- 55:23[SPEAKER_01]: apparently trying not to go nowhere.
- 55:25[SPEAKER_01]: And he's playing the bears on the goal line.
- 55:29[SPEAKER_01]: He flying around like, like, he is 25 years old.
- 55:33[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the Super Bowl.
- 55:34[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what I'm saying?
- 55:35[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's how he playing.
- 55:36[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I was just showing me some of that passion for like that.
- 55:39[SPEAKER_01]: That to me is a difference.
- 55:40[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it's all about.
- 55:41[SPEAKER_01]: Even I don't care.
- 55:42[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell it to you or not.
- 55:43[SPEAKER_01]: I just play with that passion and emotion.
- 55:49[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, like we said earlier, they're able to keep a lid on that Vikings.
- 55:56[SPEAKER_00]: offense.
- 55:57[SPEAKER_00]: You give your offense to chance enough cracks to maybe put enough points up that they can win the game on Sunday against the Vikings.
- 56:06[SPEAKER_00]: The Saints are one and a half point under dogs as a right now going into the game with that bit.
- 56:13[SPEAKER_00]: Not bad, especially after what we saw on Monday night football, you think would be a lot worse, but they're only one and a half under dogs for this game.
- 56:21[SPEAKER_00]: So as we wrap up, again, it's a meetup game.
- 56:25[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a great week.
- 56:28[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be maybe rainy, great week for just our community, our podcast.
- 56:34[SPEAKER_00]: Should be even with all the weather, quote-unquote concerns, should be our biggest meetup event.
- 56:41[SPEAKER_00]: We've had up to this point.
- 56:42[SPEAKER_00]: So we're extremely excited for it.
- 56:45[SPEAKER_00]: Safe probably to everyone who's coming to the meetup
- 56:51[SPEAKER_00]: We always say that we don't lose beat-up games.
- 56:57[SPEAKER_00]: Are the things gonna get back on track with that this year and beat the Vikings on Sunday?
- 57:06[SPEAKER_01]: You know, man, I'm a good, say, the arcade do it.
- 57:11[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 57:18[SPEAKER_01]: But let's see, I'll see this.
- 57:21[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Saints makes this a competitive one.
- 57:24[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they get ran out of the home.
- 57:26[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be just happy Monday night.
- 57:27[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is a competitive one, but they just don't trust the trenches.
- 57:34[SPEAKER_01]: The trenches aren't good enough in a game.
- 57:37[SPEAKER_01]: There's just such a bad matchup.
- 57:40[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard for me to see it.
- 57:41[SPEAKER_01]: Pro me wrong.
- 57:42[SPEAKER_01]: Pro me wrong, killing more like,
- 57:44[SPEAKER_01]: Cracked the cold cracked the cold in his Brian Flores defense or shook if he is killing eight up to his chuck show me something bright like you cool might have to be some sorry, I hope but like you might have put some in here or ball again, Brian and make it happen man like you could do it a chuck and do it like he has.
- 58:02[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel like it's doing it.
- 58:03[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, if alive is out there they could do it together when they like make a couple of throws they'll be there'll be chances
- 58:12[SPEAKER_01]: Um, in this in the secondary.
- 58:14[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, prove me wrong.
- 58:16[SPEAKER_01]: You know, 20 28 28 points might be enough to win this.
- 58:20[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
- 58:21[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, like, yeah.
- 58:22[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, if you can get, if you can get into the mid 20s, that might be enough to win this, you know, if the same defense like steps up like now the same defense going like allows the Vikings off.
- 58:34[SPEAKER_01]: It's to get off the sky and have like their best.
- 58:38[SPEAKER_01]: Like the best game of the years so far, like, Oh, the Vikings offensive back, this is over.
- 58:47[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the other score prediction, I'm going to say Seizelos, um, 20 27, 27, the 24.
- 59:02[SPEAKER_00]: They put 24 points up on Bryan Flores defense.
- 59:05[SPEAKER_00]: Like, so I mean, you know, you come away feeling like, Alice sucks to, you know, it might be on the right track again.
- 59:11[SPEAKER_00]: And Adam, we'll see, I can't do a brother.
- 59:16[SPEAKER_00]: It's such a terrible matchup.
- 59:18[SPEAKER_00]: It's such a awful matchup for this team.
- 59:24[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going 2015 Vikings.
- 59:29[SPEAKER_00]: I did.
- 59:29[SPEAKER_01]: That's a nice decay.
- 59:34[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to run it out of there to do the post graph, we're going to run it with my
- 59:41[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, we truly, truly appreciate everything and you know, this week is like a celebration of everything in terms of like our community and what we build and I want to give a shout out to our dudes Tony and Dante today.
- 59:58[SPEAKER_00]: So the brand their birthdays or birthday in integral part of our
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- 1:00:15[SPEAKER_00]: So shout out to y'all.
- 1:00:16[SPEAKER_00]: Happy birthday.
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- 1:00:59[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be doing the recap pod together in person, live from New Orleans after the Vikings game.
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- 1:01:14[SPEAKER_00]: Do the recap pod and with that we are out.