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Morsel of Murder - Vallow-Daybell and Franke Stories For March 11th, 2025 · The Radio From Hell Show - Best Of

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  Speaker 1: So I watched two things about Horrible Moms this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Is this a morsel of murder?
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  Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean it's yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And now a morsel of murder with Gina Barberry Radio
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  Speaker 2: from Hell on X ninety six.
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  Speaker 1: So one of them actual murder, the other one potential murder.
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  Speaker 1: So I watched the dateline about Lori Valo day Bill.
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  Speaker 3: I watched that one, yeah, and then I also the
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  Speaker 3: interview one right, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Then I also watched against Carrie's wife, Sue's recommendation, you did,
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  Speaker 1: She actually texted me and she said, don't watch the
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  Speaker 1: Ruby Frankie miniseries on.
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  Speaker 2: It really upset her. Now, can I let me ask
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  Speaker 2: you two questions?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, First of all, what is gained by watching an
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  Speaker 4: interview with Lori Valoda Bell to see how crazy she is?
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  Speaker 4: Is just it's kind of like watching a car record.
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  Speaker 1: I think I keep wanting to understand how a mother
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  Speaker 1: could could go there, like I want to try to
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  Speaker 1: see the like the beginning and how how they progressed,
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  Speaker 1: and because it's so far out of.
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  Speaker 3: My realm of understanding.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's good.
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  Speaker 4: Well yeah, and then my second question is when you
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  Speaker 4: were warned not to watch with the other one.
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  Speaker 2: Why did you do it anyway? I?
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  Speaker 1: Well, what what Sue doesn't know Mark, And what Sue
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  Speaker 1: doesn't know is most of those details I already knew
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  Speaker 1: because I.
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  Speaker 4: All, okay, So why did Why did Sue warn you
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  Speaker 4: off it?
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  Speaker 3: Because it's it's horrendous.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's let us in a little of it.
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  Speaker 1: So I found this article that sort of speaks to it.
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  Speaker 1: Two cases with UTAH ties have gained worldwide attention for
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  Speaker 1: egregious crimes against children. In both mother had a view
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  Speaker 1: of their children that was seen as somehow demonic. Laurie
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  Speaker 1: Valodaebell and Ruby Frankie or two moms who were both
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  Speaker 1: members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.
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  Speaker 1: They went from being ordinary and having extreme views then
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  Speaker 1: to doing horrendous criminal acts. USU Professor of Religious Studies
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Mason said the major similarity between the women is
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  Speaker 1: their belief that quote that children have the ability to
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  Speaker 1: be overtaken by demons because of activity and past life
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  Speaker 1: or just the behavior of children as seen as demonic. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Lauri Valo day Bell is cuckoo for Coconuts crazy. She's
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  Speaker 1: in that interview on Dateline she says, Jesus comes to
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  Speaker 1: jail and talks to her.
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  Speaker 3: She goes back and forth between here and.
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  Speaker 1: Heaven, and she talks to Chad Dabll's wife who they.
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  Speaker 3: Killed, and she says she's totally fine with it.
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  Speaker 1: And she goes and talks to her kids in heaven there,
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  Speaker 1: totally fine with it.
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  Speaker 3: She thinks she did them a favor.
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  Speaker 2: Well, she has to do something, you know, to not
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  Speaker 2: to hide from herself.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, she has totally justified what has happened there.
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  Speaker 4: But and this the thing that I got from her, though,
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  Speaker 4: is that, Okay, admittedly, yes.
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  Speaker 2: You're a celebrity, but this is not a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: No, she's she's she loves, she loves well.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's a similarity between her and Ruby Frankie,
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  Speaker 1: who was one of the first really successful Mormon mommy vloggers.
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  Speaker 1: You know, look at my perfect life, look at my
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  Speaker 1: perfect children, and they're perfectly dressed. But the thing I
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  Speaker 1: most wanted to hear about with the Ruby Frankie thing
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  Speaker 1: was they do extensive interview with her husband, Kevin, and
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  Speaker 1: I wondered when this story first came out, when they
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  Speaker 1: said Kevin hadn't been living in the house and had
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  Speaker 1: not talked to the wife or the children for a year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's very odd. And you watched did you watch the
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  Speaker 1: documentary too?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I've seen a few of these, so
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  Speaker 2: it's so all.
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  Speaker 1: So they got in with this psychologist who lost her
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  Speaker 1: license life coach Jody Hildebrand. Yeahs too, And and he
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  Speaker 1: went along with it, like he said, the first time
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  Speaker 1: he went to her her group is the husband Kevin
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  Speaker 1: the first thing he said. And there were witnesses that
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  Speaker 1: said he he went there and he said, this is
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  Speaker 1: a man hating group. This is a I don't but
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  Speaker 1: over the period of years, this this psychologist moved into
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  Speaker 1: their house said said he needs to leave and not
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  Speaker 1: have contact with the children. This the thing that I
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  Speaker 1: thought was really bad was her oldest daughter, Sherry, was
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  Speaker 1: kicked out of the house at one point and she
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  Speaker 1: called the police and said, I'm worried about my siblings.
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  Speaker 3: Will you please go do a wellness check.
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  Speaker 1: The police went and nobody answered the door when they
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  Speaker 1: knocked on the door, and they asked, and all the
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  Speaker 1: neighbors said, yeah, these people are crazy and they're abusing
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  Speaker 1: their kids. And they said, well, have you seen any
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  Speaker 1: evidence of it, meaning.
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  Speaker 3: Did you see bruises?
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  Speaker 1: Did you see And one of the neighbors said, I
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  Speaker 1: said no, because I hadn't actually seen any physical evidence
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  Speaker 1: of the abuse. And they said, well, we can't do anything.
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  Speaker 1: And this poor woman was crying on the documentary and
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  Speaker 1: she said, I wish I had lied and said I
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  Speaker 1: had seen something, because maybe they would have investigated further.
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  Speaker 1: But these women that think they are helping their children,
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  Speaker 1: like my child is possessed by a demon. And Ruby
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  Speaker 1: Frankie kept meticulous notes every day of the abuse of
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  Speaker 1: her kids, and she was starving them and she said,
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  Speaker 1: because I won't feed a demon.
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  Speaker 2: Now, these kids in school, they were.
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  Speaker 1: At some point they were removed from school by the parents.
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  Speaker 1: Well not, I mean then the dad was long gone.
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  Speaker 1: But I wonder if there's a point where you're a
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  Speaker 1: very religious person, and I'm not going to say, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's crazy Catholics, there's crazy everything. You're a very religious person,
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  Speaker 1: and in your mind you're thinking, I want.
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  Speaker 3: My children to make it to the next highest.
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  Speaker 1: Level of heaven or whatever righteousness, righteousness, at what point
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  Speaker 1: where you think, what kind of God would you believe
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  Speaker 1: in that would treat their earthly form in that way,
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  Speaker 1: thinking it would exalt them.
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand at all.
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  Speaker 1: But she in her mind, that's not my child exactly.
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  Speaker 1: That's a zombie, or that's a demon, or that's a
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  Speaker 1: and I think.
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  Speaker 3: She still believes that, Oh yeah, she does.
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  Speaker 4: That's quite an admission, though. Gene to say that they're
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  Speaker 4: that they are crazy Catholics.
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  Speaker 1: Well, now I'm just saying I'm not picking on the
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  Speaker 1: LDS church, is what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: There's crazy everything.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting that these women are both from that church,
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  Speaker 1: and that's why we pay extra attention to it here.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't just disturbing. Well, you know, you never
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you've if you really want to want to
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  Speaker 4: understand it, you can. However, it's that comes at a price.
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  Speaker 4: What do you mean, I've some famous philosopher once said,
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  Speaker 4: nothing that is human is alien to us individual. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it is all in us, and it's in you somewhere.
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  Speaker 4: Uh but you you you don't let it.
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  Speaker 2: It's so far, it's so far away inside of you.
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  Speaker 4: But but there, if you really wanted to understand.
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  Speaker 2: It, you could.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, but on the on the basic, most
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  Speaker 1: basic of terms, I understand wanting what's best for my children.
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  Speaker 3: They have adulterated that into.
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  Speaker 1: Harming them because they think that's best for them.
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  Speaker 3: That's the part I can't. I can't.
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  Speaker 2: It's like the Munchausen by proxy people.
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  Speaker 3: That's for that, No, that's for attention. And there's some
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  Speaker 3: of that in both.
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  Speaker 2: Of these things certainly.
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  Speaker 4: And Lorie Valley, Oh yeah, that's why I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: kind of don't like watching those because because of that reason.
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  Speaker 2: It's like I almost can understand.
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  Speaker 1: They believe that God was telling them to harm their children,
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  Speaker 1: and I question why you would want to believe in
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  Speaker 1: a God that would tell you to harm.
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  Speaker 2: You don't quit at that point. You ever ever read
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  Speaker 2: the Bible?
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  Speaker 4: When when when he took his son Isaac out sacked
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  Speaker 4: to sacrifice him because God told him to. You bet,
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  Speaker 4: God told me to take my son and my only
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  Speaker 4: son and kill him.
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  Speaker 2: So I am.
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  Speaker 3: I don't get that either. That's I don't get that.
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  Speaker 4: It's he showed his extreme faith in God by doing that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, God was.
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  Speaker 4: New to the job then maybe that was was back
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  Speaker 4: when he was a younger. He was a learning curve,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we give him a learning.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody says, my wife watched the Ruby Fank Cranky
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  Speaker 1: documentary to understand why the husband hasn't been held accountable
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  Speaker 1: for anything.
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  Speaker 3: That's the part.
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  Speaker 1: I was mostly confused by how how he gets away
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  Speaker 1: with not being responsible for this