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I Saw HUNDREDS of Ghosts in Malaysia: Dennis Chew’s Real Paranormal Encounter · Tales from Incredible Tales

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  Speaker 1: I saw them
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  Speaker 1: And hundreds of dams.
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  Speaker 1: Hundreds. Yeah, my first experience.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Dennis,
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  Speaker 2: my name is Fa, my name is Kyle, and this
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  Speaker 2: is Tales from Incredible Tales, inspired by the classic horror series,
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  Speaker 2: we explore Southeast Asia's supernatural culture. Today,
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  Speaker 2: As you guys can see, it's only Kyle and I
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  Speaker 2: because Wayne is on MC. Get well soon to win.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody in the comment, I think because of the haze la. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, he's really on MC. Oh, OK.
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  Speaker 2: So, um.
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  Speaker 2: People on MC then you
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  Speaker 1: No, someone replacing which you didn't see, see.
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  Speaker 1: Seriously, no kidding.
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  Speaker 2: very scary for special ability
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  Speaker 1: scared. No, no, no, I don't have, I don't have
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  Speaker 1: my ability is something good, but it's not good for
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  Speaker 1: ghost stories because there's 3 different function masters told me.
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  Speaker 1: Um, I have this aura. If, um, like wherever I go,
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  Speaker 1: they will just move.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so what, what do you call it the yang energy, right,
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  Speaker 2: yang energy.
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  Speaker 2: So this episode's guest needs no introduction at all. You
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  Speaker 2: probably already recognize him from his face or from his voice.
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  Speaker 2: He is the host of Mr. Zhou's Ghost Stories original podcast,
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  Speaker 2: which has been on radio since 2007, as well as
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  Speaker 2: his TV series spin-off and has been putting out podcasts
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  Speaker 2: since 2020.
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  Speaker 2: Actor, singer, businessman, lifelong learner, and horror icon. Let's welcome
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  Speaker 2: to the show, Dennis Chuu. Thank you so much. I'm
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  Speaker 2: a big fan. And in this episode, we will be
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  Speaker 2: diving into Dennis's illustrious horror career to learn more about
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  Speaker 2: his scariest supernatural encounters, his thoughts on evolving horror scene
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  Speaker 2: across his years as creator, and also his advice about
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  Speaker 2: ghost hunting and his growing sensitivity to horror.
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  Speaker 2: This episode was inspired by the classic Incredible Tales episode,
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  Speaker 2: Old Hotel. You've had many years of experience, uh, dealing
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  Speaker 2: with horror and the supernatural. Tell us about your scariest.
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  Speaker 2: Supernatural stories throughout your experience with hosting and and filming
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  Speaker 2: horror content and how did the different mediums affect your
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  Speaker 2: supernatural experience?
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  Speaker 1: Actually telling ghost stories
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  Speaker 1: It's always scariest if you listen to ghost stories. To me,
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  Speaker 1: the most scary part is to listen and it's not
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  Speaker 1: to watch a scary movie, because if you listen, if
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  Speaker 1: you watch a scary scary movie, they show everything, but
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  Speaker 1: if you listen, it's all up here how you imagine.
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  Speaker 1: So to me that is the scariest part. But for
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  Speaker 1: me to tell ghost stories because no one, no one
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  Speaker 1: ever
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  Speaker 1: Have this kind of program on radio. So I remember
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  Speaker 1: 25 years ago, I went into my, my ex-boss's office
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  Speaker 1: and said, um I want to tell ghost stories on air.
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  Speaker 1: She said, are you sure? But I, I, I don't
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  Speaker 1: dare to listen. I said, best.
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  Speaker 1: Then you won't know what happened. Don't have to check. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I, I started in 2007, telling ghost stories until now. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I can never see a ghost, um, never feel anything.
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  Speaker 1: I only feel when people say, oh, I, I can feel,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like when people talking about it, naturally you're like,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, my, my hair stand, yeah, um, but
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  Speaker 1: the first experience I have was actually last year when
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  Speaker 1: I was in Malaysia, that was my very first experience
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  Speaker 1: I
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  Speaker 1: I saw them
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  Speaker 1: And hundreds of dams.
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  Speaker 1: Hundreds, yeah, my first experience. Yeah, I always love to imagine.
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  Speaker 1: I always like to tell ghost stories. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: to me it's an entertainment and I respect them. It's
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  Speaker 1: very important to respect them. I believe they, they are around. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Why I why I like to tell ghost stories because
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  Speaker 1: from young I can hear people talking to me. So
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  Speaker 1: I always thought it's ghost until I met this shifu.
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  Speaker 1: Three different she who told me that no, it's not
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  Speaker 1: it's not ghosts that they are talking to you. If
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  Speaker 1: you are a Christian that is guardian angel if you
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  Speaker 1: are bison, you know that is a deity we call
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  Speaker 1: an earth deity Tuttikong.
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  Speaker 1: If you remember, Dennis, every time when you hear something
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  Speaker 1: talking to you, they're asking you to do good things, right?
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  Speaker 1: I said, yeah, when I recall back, um, for example,
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  Speaker 1: when I crossed the bridge.
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  Speaker 1: Some, some voice will just say, talk to the person
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  Speaker 1: in front of you in Chinese, in, in, in Mandarin,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes in Hokkien. Talk to the person in front of you,
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  Speaker 1: talk to him, talk to her, but I don't know
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  Speaker 1: the person in front of me, how to talk to
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  Speaker 1: her or him. Then the next moment the person will
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  Speaker 1: fall down. All these things will happen. My mom told
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  Speaker 1: me when I was young, I will automatically suddenly scream.
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  Speaker 1: From, from my sleep, mama lao kalangallo like like downstairs
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  Speaker 1: accident after I, I sit finished my sentence downstairs, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: accident happened yeah so this happened to me which I,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want, I don't want all this to me
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  Speaker 1: it's scary. So I, I went to church and I
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  Speaker 1: prayed to God. I said, God, please take away all
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  Speaker 1: this from me, please.
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  Speaker 1: And God is so powerful. He actually took away all
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  Speaker 1: this from me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, until 2017, I met this very nice feng shui
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  Speaker 1: Shifu and she sees everything in me.
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  Speaker 1: And she's asking, why are we rejecting something that is
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  Speaker 1: so nice that that God gives to you? Why why
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  Speaker 1: are you rejecting?
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  Speaker 1: So I told her, because I can hear ghosts talking. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's the time she enlightened me, no, it's not ghosts.
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  Speaker 1: So I start to
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  Speaker 1: Um, believe and also try to gain back all this
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  Speaker 1: ability but no more. It's like it means he took
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  Speaker 1: it off. I can never hear people talking to me again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then last year something happened when I'm filming
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  Speaker 1: um sightings in in Malaysia. Yeah, that's how I connected
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  Speaker 1: with with another master. He's a very young master in
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  Speaker 1: Malaysia in JB, very famous because he's so good looking,
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  Speaker 1: but he's actually a, how to say tanki in English,
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  Speaker 1: he's a medium medium medium, yeah, like, like God can
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  Speaker 1: goes into his body, yeah, so he's a medium and
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  Speaker 1: we got connected.
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  Speaker 1: So whatever he can see, I can see for the
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  Speaker 1: two nights. I tell you it's amazing. To me it's
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  Speaker 1: It's impossible, but, but it really happened to me. We
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  Speaker 1: actually saw the same thing and he, and this is
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  Speaker 1: also the first time that happened to him, like a
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  Speaker 1: person and him is, is connected. So he believes it's
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  Speaker 1: our last life, we already knew each other, yeah, yeah, it's,
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  Speaker 1: it's
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  Speaker 1: amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, which I didn't know.
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  Speaker 2: Even after you go back
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  Speaker 1: or I lost it. I lost it.
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean like that two nights when you go
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  Speaker 2: back sleep, you still can see because the connection. No,
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  Speaker 1: only when I'm very near to him. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: It's
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  Speaker 2: borrow
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  Speaker 2: borrow. You see, he's so excited. You want to borrow. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: because I never thought of that. I think, I think
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  Speaker 2: we
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  Speaker 1: had
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  Speaker 2: this conversation. I ever thought of that like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: what if, like, because I do horror content as well, right?
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  Speaker 1: I
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  Speaker 2: tell you
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  Speaker 1: it's possible. Let me bring you to him. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's possible because, because I knew it. I feel it.
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  Speaker 1: And I saw it with my own eyes, oh, this
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  Speaker 1: is how they look like, it's like human, but, but, er,
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  Speaker 1: lighter
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  Speaker 1: colors.
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  Speaker 1: Not really, but some are like blood, blood over, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: To me it's not, to me I feel painful. I,
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  Speaker 1: I actually asked uh uh Andren, which is the the
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  Speaker 1: the medium, can we, how, how can we help them?
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  Speaker 1: He said it's difficult because there's too many.
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  Speaker 1: We can have 1, we can have 2, but how
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  Speaker 1: to help?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all of them. I think you saw hundreds,
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  Speaker 1: right?
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  Speaker 2: This is the abandoned shopping
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  Speaker 1: mall.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you went there as well.
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  Speaker 1: We went to Malaysia for two apps. I am very
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  Speaker 1: excited because to me this is a new, new experience. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: so normally the program uh is 4 of us sit
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  Speaker 1: inside this big car, yeah, so we have mics, cameras
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  Speaker 1: all all over.
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  Speaker 1: So normally everyone would tell one story until the last story,
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  Speaker 1: the director in front, she was, he or she will
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  Speaker 1: sit in front and and she would give me a nod,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll say, OK, now we have reached our destination,
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  Speaker 1: which is like the topic that night. That night I
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  Speaker 1: remember was haunted school, haunted old haunted school, very exciting, right?
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  Speaker 1: Old haunted school, you know, supposed to be, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who tell the last stories, then we're
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  Speaker 1: supposed to enter the old haunted school. But that night
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  Speaker 1: once we entered the car, camera spoiled.
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  Speaker 1: Light got problem. Even the most professional sound man.
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  Speaker 1: His sound got problem. So the director Bo Penna, she said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, guys. Normally we have all these surprise
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  Speaker 1: the last story will, we will enter to to to
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  Speaker 1: our destination. But now because all my crew, they are
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  Speaker 1: already at the destination at the old haunted school, so
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  Speaker 1: we have to go back there and let them fix
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  Speaker 1: the camera. So we go back again. Ah, so we
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  Speaker 1: go out and shoot again. I have to break this surprise.
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  Speaker 1: Then we say, oh, OK. So once we enter the
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  Speaker 1: haunted school.
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  Speaker 1: I saw two short buildings, like, like I remember a
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  Speaker 1: pink bungalow and a white bungalow, you know, once we entered,
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  Speaker 1: like two short houses.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why my head starts spinning like like
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  Speaker 1: something inside me is missing. I feel like, wow, very giddy,
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  Speaker 1: don't know why.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm, I don't feel good. I don't feel good. Why, why,
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  Speaker 1: why these two houses cost me all this. Then we
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  Speaker 1: enter to the old haunted school, uh, they start to
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  Speaker 1: fix the camera, after that we went out, everything go
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  Speaker 1: back normal. I, I'm thinking, you know, whether to tell
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  Speaker 1: the director about how I feel, OK, I better tell
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  Speaker 1: her in, in case if I go back again, um,
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  Speaker 1: all this happen again. So, I went to tell the director.
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  Speaker 1: And, and she called back and said, hey, um, Chongqing Tucker,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just now he was giddy. I think we
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  Speaker 1: have to think of another um idea if, if this
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  Speaker 1: really happened to him again. So Andren heard Andren came
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  Speaker 1: to me, the medium, uh, in, in Mandarin, he said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like, like Chongqing Taka, you don't worry if
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  Speaker 1: you go back there again, you won't feel that. You
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  Speaker 1: trust me, you will be OK. If you feel giddy again,
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  Speaker 1: then we, we stop filming.
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  Speaker 1: So I trust him lah, true enough, we went back,
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  Speaker 1: nothing happened, perfectly normal. You know what happened? Because he said,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't tell them that I'm coming here to shoot
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  Speaker 1: because of my aura, yeah, and the two houses, the
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  Speaker 1: pink and the white houses, is not ghosts.
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  Speaker 1: They are demons, demons staying there. They are very strong.
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  Speaker 1: So this deity inside my body went out from my
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  Speaker 1: body to discuss with them, to have a meeting with them. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: so sorry, he's not here to disturb, you know, that's
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  Speaker 1: why that moment I feel giddy because
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get what I mean, yeah, like like like
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  Speaker 1: a spirit inside me came out to talk to them, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what he told me.
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  Speaker 1: And he also blessed our camera, like, you know, camera,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he blessed the camera, OK, this camera can see,
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  Speaker 1: can see ghosts, yeah, because we, we wanted to shoot ghosts, yeah, but,
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  Speaker 1: but we never have the chance. But in Malaysia, we,
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  Speaker 1: we don't have the chance also, we we we didn't
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  Speaker 1: see any, though many of them feel it, but when
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  Speaker 1: we came back to Singapore, the camera that he blessed.
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  Speaker 2: They shot a
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  Speaker 1: ghost
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  Speaker 2: actually the last one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, so a bit of context, uh, the director
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  Speaker 2: is CC, right? CC, the CC and Chong Wu, they
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  Speaker 2: were both directors for, uh, the show that you mentioned
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  Speaker 2: last year, and they were on my other show did air,
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  Speaker 2: and they, we did talk about this, but I didn't
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  Speaker 2: know it was the demon. I didn't know it was demon.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was spirits, so it's
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  Speaker 2: demon,
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  Speaker 1: the the two shot, shot, the houses,
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  Speaker 2: yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the demons,
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  Speaker 2: demons, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So after the blessing.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, we started to connect with the, with the shifu.
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  Speaker 1: So the, the first night went on smoothly. When I
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  Speaker 1: went back also, I sleep very well. Then, um, second
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  Speaker 1: night this award-winning actor in Malaysia.
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  Speaker 1: So he's, when he starts telling story, I feel that
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  Speaker 1: how come like there's something black here like like the
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  Speaker 1: hair now, you know, like something dripping. So when I,
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  Speaker 1: when I turn my head, I saw something, I, I,
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  Speaker 1: I hear her first in in Cantonese saying sorry and
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  Speaker 1: then she just
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  Speaker 1: When, you know, went out of the car. So it's,
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  Speaker 1: it's like when the actor is talking, she, she dived
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  Speaker 1: into the car and listen to him. Ci saw my
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  Speaker 1: expression because I'm like, you know, deep inside me is
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  Speaker 1: like what the but but I cannot, I cannot say
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  Speaker 1: anything because he's still telling his story, so I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: what is that? So Cici saw my expression, so she
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  Speaker 1: came to ask me what happened just now in the car,
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  Speaker 1: why you have like such an expression.
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  Speaker 1: The engine master came. Hey Dennis, you saw something in
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  Speaker 1: the car, right, just now? You saw, right? Tell me
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  Speaker 1: what you saw. Tell me what you saw. Yeah, you saw,
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  Speaker 1: finally you saw come high five. I was actually a
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  Speaker 1: bit upset. I told him, Hey, I, I, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want all this kind of thing. No lah, only, only
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  Speaker 1: today because we are connected already and when we came back.
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  Speaker 1: We went to abandoned HDB block to shoot. So that
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  Speaker 1: producer CC lah, CC, she, she, she kept wanting to
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  Speaker 1: try new things, she wants to play with the pen.
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  Speaker 2: What is that called?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: using pen, using a pen to ask questions and the
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  Speaker 1: pen can like write words to show us. So, OK lah,
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  Speaker 1: we we we we did it and then there's this
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  Speaker 1: uh moment when the camera turned to me and when
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking, nobody realized, even the editor until the whole
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  Speaker 1: episode was out, my listeners told me, wow.
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  Speaker 1: How can a ghost like 2 m tall walk past
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  Speaker 1: you you cannot see,
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  Speaker 2: and it looks like you don't have like one black
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  Speaker 2: stick
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  Speaker 2: and,
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  Speaker 1: and that's the camera that that the medium blessed open
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  Speaker 1: close
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  Speaker 2: then maybe that you should bless all your camera bro
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  Speaker 1: but when I see you, ah, I think you.
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  Speaker 2: Handsome.
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  Speaker 1: You are very confident and I don't think you can
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  Speaker 1: see also
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  Speaker 2: yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: true, true. I, but
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  Speaker 1: the
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  Speaker 1: thing is you also have this aura.
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  Speaker 2: I
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  Speaker 2: can, the thing is I can like I can feel
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  Speaker 2: every now and then, especially in you you've done this
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  Speaker 2: show for 24 years,
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  Speaker 1: yeah, like this little girl.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a few times already. Yeah, this little girl, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it's old man, yeah, it's an old man, yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: only play two voices like sound,
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  Speaker 2: yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's always like different, yeah, a few times
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes everything OK, but when we download the podcast, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: things happen.
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  Speaker 2: Little girl, I, I think is quite interesting because I
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  Speaker 2: know there's a very famous story from Caldecott Hill, the
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  Speaker 2: little girl, could it be the same little girl?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah, she's she's still there I think. Cannot,
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  Speaker 1: she cannot leave the place. Yeah, because the, the big
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  Speaker 1: fire burned the whole house down, that's why, yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: whole family was trapped there. First of all, the first
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  Speaker 1: time when we knew about her, we thought there's only her.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but actually the whole family is is staying at
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  Speaker 1: the Radio building of the old catacott.
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  Speaker 1: whole family.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, that, that have I told you this story before?
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  Speaker 2: So there's, there's one time, right, uh, I don't have
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  Speaker 2: season parking for to park at the basement of Media Corp,
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  Speaker 2: so I had to park outside. So after my show,
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  Speaker 2: after 2 a.m., I have to walk the long way.
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  Speaker 2: I have to take the escalator, go up the open space, right,
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  Speaker 2: and then there will be one, staircase leading down to
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  Speaker 2: the car park, uh.
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  Speaker 2: That place is really, really, really, um, very iffy when
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  Speaker 2: you try, try going there like 2 a.m. in the morning, right?
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  Speaker 2: It's not a good feeling. It's really, really scary. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I tried, I tried before, I think actually you're not
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  Speaker 2: the first one who told us that Hafiz Rahman, who
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  Speaker 2: we also met, he also, uh, goes to middle court
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  Speaker 2: quite often. He told me that that the staircase is
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: very creepy, like especially when you at night you go down,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: then there's a certain part, right, almost no light on
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: actually after 2 a.m. there, I think they don't turn
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: on the light one, so you'll be that one.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I think you know, bro, so, so the staircase is
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: like the like that. So whenever you, whenever at that
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: point of time, I think like for about a week
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: I don't have any parking, right. So after 2 a.m.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I have to like go down and I will always
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: feel like, you know, and then the car park is empty.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Then your bike is the only bike there. My bike
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: is the only bike there. And then like, so to, to,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: to counter that feeling that I always like.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: You won't see,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: but this might not be OK. This, I want to
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: tell all the audience, OK, what Fa did just now, um,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: can be dangerous. Yeah, because you offended them. You just
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: keep quiet. If you make sound, they will make back.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: But it's like, OK, the thing is about me is,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: is like my, how to say, my defense mechanism. No,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: you're trying to cope, la, because trying to scared, right?
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: You're trying to cope yourself, lah. So lately, I don't
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: know why lately, uh, the past few weeks I've been
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: feeling the iffy, iffy feeling after my, after my show.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: So I have this habit now, uh, after I close
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: the off or whatever, after I close everything, opening the door,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I will just do this.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I swear. So as times have changed, right, the way
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: people watch and listen to media has also evolved greatly.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: So as a pioneer of telling ghost stories on air
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: and TV, how has your experience changed from being a
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: ghost storyteller across the years?
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: You know, never changed. Radio is
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: It's very magical. OK, I will understand how I feel.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: When we go out, people see us as a friend,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: but for example, if I go out with a star,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: people are like, oh, that's who, who, who, but when
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: people see us, they're like, Hey, Dennis, how are you? Wow,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: so free ah, but you, you, you never dare to
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: do that to a star because to them it's like, oh,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: that's a movie star, it's a TV star, but radio
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: is always
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: The same pattern. We we we talk through the mic and,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: and it's always 1 to 1. It's like
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: that. So all
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: these years, we didn't change much, but 11 reason is
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm scared, you know, to tell ghost stories uh alone.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: So I include Miss Mo.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: And then Msmo can also see ghosts. Then we include more.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: So now we have 12 lah.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: It's like, even if it's not podcast, right, you sit
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: together like school camp. Hey, I tell you a ghost story.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Then it's like everybody take turn to share. I think
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: that's the most fun part, correct. You have been out
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: in the field filming ghost, uh, hunting reality segments for
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: your TV shows, uh, where you have experienced supernatural experiences
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: while recounting stories of the past. Out in the field.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: You know, you are very sensitive to everything around you
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: and you can tell like, like how do you tell
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: if it's like a real supernatural encounter or anomaly or
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: is it just like a natural maybe sound from the environment,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: you know, you know. How do you
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: differentiate that?
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Experience that I can really share with you.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Um, we went to this island to shoot sightings, and,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and that guy that went 7 years ago, he was
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: possessed by this female ghost. So 7 years later, he
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: said he's strong enough to go back again to share
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: his experience. So we went to this, went back to
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: this island to, to shoot again. My director is a
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: very angmo Paiwan.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, she, he, he believed, but then he
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: is very, um, active, sporty, so when we reached the place,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I cannot see what, what is, what is that place
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: also because it's like pitch dark. So he went there,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: light up the whole cemetery.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: So they line up the whole cemetery. I saw, wow,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: it's a big cemetery, you know, big grave is graveyard, right? Ferm,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: very big, like, you know, it belongs to, um, famous
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: people there la, on, on, on, on the island.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: About 67 of them. So, OK, like from a semi-circles,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: everyone come. OK, we, we, we, we do our link
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: already now. OK, action. So we, I, I start.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: And he started to describe when he met this female ghost, this,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: this female ghost kept wanting him to, to call her name.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: So when he starts calling her name, the female ghost
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: enter his body. So deep inside, I'm thinking, hey, please
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: ah please ah, other people don't go and ask what
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: is her name? And Dasty D Dasty, so what's her name?
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Immediately he asked this question, this guy said her name.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: And one of the masters saw when immediately he said
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: her name.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: The female ghost immediately appeared in front of that guy. Oh,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: you still remember me? And he, and she entered his body,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: but I cannot see. I only feel.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Weird because he starts speaking English, then his hand like
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: keep keep shaking like and and he start like
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I want to kill some people.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: He start doing all this in front of the camera
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: but that wasn't in the right? No, we have to
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: edit because I watched it
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: because, because this is going to show on national TV
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: yeah but it's yeah, but
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: yeah.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I said, can we, can we stop already
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: because something is not right. But then at this point
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: of time, we also heard a girl singing behind us.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: So the, the director, this very, he's he's a very
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: nice guy lah. The director went to collect the sound
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: with the sound man. So we have another camera. I
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: asked the cameraman to roll, continue to roll, yeah, and
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I told the director, we are going to leave, leave
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: this place, we cannot stay here anymore. So we went out.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: To the entrance, which is like 15 minutes, 15 minutes walk,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: and he kept wanting to kill people. The whole night,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I want to kill some people, you know, his eyes,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the behavior very different. He's a very, um, jovial person,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: you know, kept laughing, you know, whatever uh whatever Da
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Lii said on on on me, he would just laugh at, at,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: at what we're talking about.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: And when we went to the entrance, the, the old
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: uncle that, that drove us to the entrance looked at him. Oh,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: you are possessed, ah, very normal lah. Always come to
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: this cemetery, got people cannot possess.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Ah, y'all have to settle, y'all have to settle.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: So he lit up, he lift up the, the back
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: of the door in the van, this big door. So, so, um, um,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: his name is Lorenzo. Lorenzo just sat down there looking
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: at us like very fierce. I don't know why, you know.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I just look at him and I start to say
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: things that
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Not me.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Like
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: This is not Dennis was saying. I, I just kept
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: saying things that, that, that
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Not me lah. I I I don't know why. I
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: don't know how.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I said,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: There's a very big sun shining on you and you
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: feel very hot now.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: In Mandarin. The sun is so bright and it's so warm,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: so hot, shining on you now, a big sun.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: And, and, and, and he start closing his eyes and,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: and he fainted.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: So when he woke up
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: He asked, what happened? And he, and his body is, is,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: is warm again because at that point in time, um, we, we, we,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: we can feel his body is cold. Yeah. So I
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: asked my master, how come at that moment I would
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: say all these
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: And, and she said, it's all inside you.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: So, you know what I said?
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: You have the ability also because when we have the
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: courage to tell ghost story, there must be a reason.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: There's something in us that we don't know. That's why
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: we're there to tell ghost stories. Seem like you.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: So I said you have an ability that you still
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: don't know yet.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Only when things happen, yeah, you will unlock it like,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: like me, my case that night I unlock it. I
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: don't know how I tackle with this whole thing.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: And
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not scared at all. That's the
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: It's not me because normally I see all these things
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I'm very scared when like, hey, some, some guys cannot possess,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: but I don't know why I'm not scared, I'm, I'm
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: just angry. I just want to get rid of, of,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, even when I'm saying now, I still
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: feel angry, yeah, which is because it's not right, it's
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: not right for this person to enter his body, yeah,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: we are like two different worlds.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: That the episode you watch is is really good. Now,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: now knowing the behind the scenes, so I, I, so basically, right,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: some context, right, they actually show, they actually let you
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: hear what the sound and captured is really truly someone singing.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Chinese folk song, not from this century. It's very old
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: and not everyone heard,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: yeah,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: like operah like that
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: you won't understand. Even I don't
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: understand,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: yeah, but it's very far like yes.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, so it was quite creepy. So is he
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: OK now?
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's OK. He's married, um, uh, got kids now. I,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I even went to his wedding
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: lunch, yeah. But after the incident, like nothing happened to
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: him. Nothing.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: You know, why, why, why did I ask, why did
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: I ask is because um
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: People believe that, especially in my, uh, from my culture, right,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: people believe once the thing, like once you cannot disturb before,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: like once the thing possess you, right, it kind of
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: like open your inner thing so like it's now it's
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: after the incident it's easier for the thing to go,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: go inside, you know, it's like your third eye open.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you open the third eye,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: but I think my chanting did help a bit and
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: also all these years for the past 7 years there
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: have been a very devoted Buddhist and yeah, and uh
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: what we know is from the, from the Master Wisely, um,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: the ghost only enter half of him, yeah. So because
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Das Didi saw something like he don't believe, so we
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: all went behind him and see, wow.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: It's like how, how, how can the human body, you know,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: did this like half of his body is, is wet.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: He only sweat half of his body. Yeah, you really
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: see like the whole shirt behind him, half is wet.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, how, how is that possible?
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: And all
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: this
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: we, we captured but then we cannot,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: yeah, what, what does she look like?
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: No, he didn't.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: He didn't,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I should ask him,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Chinese or what because he speak English, I think it's Chinese,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I feel because the song by the name, the name
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: is
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: English
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: but Chinese in the Wonderland,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: yeah, yeah,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: that's the name.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I don't wanna say the name. Yeah, even, even the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: one at the old Caldecott Hill, yeah.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: So I always,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: yeah, don't, don't say because that's why they say name
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: has a lot of power.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Some names cannot be, especially when you're at the place
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: that they stay.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Alright, this question is for everyone here and those watching
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: at home. Which occupation do you think would encounter the
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: most supernatural beings?
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Wow,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I don't want to give an easy answer. I want
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: to bring outside the box, OK, the easy answer is
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: that people who work in the afterlife care, that kind
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: of thing, right? Maybe we, I, I, I go with
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: something that's more representative of our industry. I would say
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: people were in production.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Actually, a lot of weird things, especially sound, OK, because
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I do, I do my own recording and sound. I've
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: heard a lot of weird stuff, and she also has
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: a sound person. Audrey also have heard a lot of
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: weird stuff like you remember Kara.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, I got extra sound. I forget. We caught it. Oh, the, the, the, the,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: the shouterna, yeah, we some whispering. So you walk into
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: the kampong, right, and got the sound. Oh really? Can
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: you hear a bit, a bit, a bit. I've also
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: heard quite a few, and I think sound is easier
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: to capture ghosts than video. I think the ghosts use
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: less energy.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you said. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: To me, security guard. Hmm,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: OK, true, true, true. Never fails. They will always have
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: story because it's one of the occupations that he covered
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: in his show. I remember
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: that one. OK, this is a true story in Bellestia.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Can I say the condo. So my friend went.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: And he cannot. Oh, finally he, he, she found this
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: place and, and she drove in. Then the security asked, uh,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Niao Chinali. Oh, well, took a block, block 2, and then, uh, uh, Chilo. Oh, OK,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: it's in front. Come, you park your car, I bring you. Wow,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: so nice this security uncle. So she went down, then
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: she took the lift up.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: But, but she was like she's thinking this whole condo
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: only one block leh.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Like the security asked me Niao q nali like where,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: where you, where you want to go. Like there's only
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: one block, of course, only this block lah.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: So she went up and she told, she told her friend, eh,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: your security guard asked me where I want to go,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: but there's only one block. We we don't have security guard.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: It's a very old condo. We don't have a security guard. You, you,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: you go down with me, you go down with me.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: So they went down.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: And true enough,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: The place that he was standing, there's no light.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Just now when she entered, it's like, oh, a bit
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: light up, but now it's like totally darkness.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's no security guard. Impossible to have a
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: security guard there.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: There's no guard.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: There is a guard posts, so when she entered, the
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: guard post was light up, but now the light was off.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: So
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: and the friend went to ask like old name.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: The old neighbor said, yeah, it's the, the gold security
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: guard lah. The old uncle very love his job very
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: much and he, he will always appear there if you
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: have the faith to see him,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: you know, I think because of inflation, I also need
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: to work part-time now the most easiest one I can
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: think of is our jobs, lah.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: We share ghost stories like podcasters, you know, like, like
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: you always say when whenever you talk about them, most
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: of the time they will come and listen to you.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: He came up with the slogan. Oh, I love this slogan.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: How many if you're listening, so are they. Wow, it's
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: so creepy, man,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: but it's so true. It is. It is, you know
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: why I feel them. Miss small feel them.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: When she was during her year when she was like
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: wearing her earphone every time, when she tells a ghost story,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Miss Mou, she can always feel that they are so
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: near to her.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, audio lah, like radio podcast, you feel that
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: you cannot the most.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I feel like
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: an actor also because acting is a very emotional job and,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: and actor and actress tend to be very sensitive, so easy,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: very easy to feel spirit,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: especially when they are in their zone, it's quite true
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: and sometimes when they are learning their lines, right, they
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: talk to themselves.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: You don't know who is there. So they then someone
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: reply you, you, yeah. And also because actors, you know,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: they will have some fans, right? Sometimes the fans can
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: be from the beyond. They like, they like
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: the actor.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, can I share something? Yes, yes, yes. OK. My
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: feng shui master, um, got her cert after, OK, they
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: all must pass this test in Japan. This hotel is meant, uh, uh, for.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: People like them that want to pass all the feng
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: shui tests. So this master will bring um um all
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: of them to this hotel, each one room, and how
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: they tackle with the ghost there.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Wow,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: training, training that night if you can pass through.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: You, you, you, you are like, yeah, you, you, you
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: get your cert. So my master went. So she said, eh,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I think leh, wow, tatami is very nice there, but
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: tatami you must open the cupboard, then you take out
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: the tatami or the the mattress from the cupboard. So
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: she opened the cupboard, this little boy inside look at her,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: then she's like,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: wow,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: interesting. My master is, I tell you.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: She's very brave. Everything, she would just smile on me. Yeah. She,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: she was inciting season one, yeah, so we, we both
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: saw the door knob.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: You know, you need strength, you need strength to, to,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: to pull the doorknob.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: And we both saw the dawn of light.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: When, yeah.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: She's so happy, I'm so scared but she's so
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: happy.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Maybe I should do that ah whenever you see something
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: like very amiss, right, challenge yourself
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: training that's crazy.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: That's not brave. The way you, you cannot be an actor,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: you can be a host.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Ouch,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: you're telling the story, you saw or not like.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: What specific role for you lah, specific role.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: What happens after you see too much ghosts?
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Tonight, my, uh, this, this episode my heart very pain. No,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: but he did say that we have season 5.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: It's still you,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know whether you host it this way.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Ting Tong area because of ghost stories. Alright, Kyle, I
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: think we are ready to learn about the morbid fact
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: of the day. So speaking of Japan.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: If you're looking for spare cash and you are a
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: brave soul, property owners in Japan are paying 88,000 yen,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: which is about $700 Singapore dollars, for people to houses
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: in their homes that have a tragic past. It's basically
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: a jiko bukan. It's a home where someone had died
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: under disturbing.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Circumstances. Since Japanese law requires agents to disclose such activities
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: to prospective tenants, people are reluctant to move in. Overnight
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: investigators then spend the night monitoring the property with cameras
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: and equipment. If there is no paranormal activity, they will
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: issue a certificate declaring so. Some companies even give compensation
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: if a verified haunting is later proved after declaring a
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: property ghost free.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Guys, I think we can go to second career. We
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: go to Japan and uh $700. And by the way,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: it's a sign we were talking about season 5 Japan
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: and then suddenly the morbid fact already also Japan. This
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: was not planned. It's a sign, but I, yeah,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: so you are paid 700
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: dollars a night
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: to investigate if the house is really haunted. So if
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: it's not, then you got the evidence you give it
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: to the agent, then the agent, OK, chop this house
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: can rent but like easy money.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Is it though?
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Selected few selected
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: few, but people,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: yeah, people actually work. It's an actual job. It's an
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: actual job, yeah,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: yeah. Wow. Japan really a lot
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: of, I feel like they're very thoughtful lah. Like it's like,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: you know, like they have more certify. Maybe somebody unfortunately
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: passed away in this house, then they're trying to, OK,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: got no ghost. The ghosts move on already, so then
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: can rent the house, but also good job more job
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: opportunities for
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: people.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: But, but if there is, they also have to prove it,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: yeah.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: How to prove, that's why I think sightings, video cameras,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: and like maybe put salt or I don't know, there's
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: ways to prove if a house is haunted. No, I mean,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe the company provide you lah. They
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: take a card, then they provide you everything like IR camera.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I think the first thing the paranormal investigators that we
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: spoke to, right, is the temperature and the pressure of
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: the room. It will change.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: If there's something there, yeah, you know, like some haunted
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: places just cold one, yeah, yeah, but, but this studio
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: also quite cool. It's because of the aircon la, bro,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: this studio very hot.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Wow, this job, OK, um, it can be very scary
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: because like me, if I go there, definitely I can
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: sleep very well. If I like, even I, I, I
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: on my handphone, I, I show the whole place that
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I sleep very well. So the next morning I told them,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I slept well, nothing happened, and they said, oh, OK,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: good job, OK, this house clean, but in actual fact,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: when you look into the camera.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: There's so many people around, it's just that I
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I slept so well I didn't notice
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: but maybe like then they will have to look at
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: the video evidence if they see got other things moving
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: and if they look
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: if they didn't or they
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: didn't then I, I doubt so. I think they are quite.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: I think Japanese.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: World culture is very thorough. Yeah, they will analyze every
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: freak
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: maybe got something Japan goes quite fierce.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Juan Juan Japan,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: right? Japan, yeah,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: the little boy lah, yeah, he's a Japan. Got one more.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: What's Sudoku?
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Hey, that one
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Sudoku is the number you
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: dig yourself
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: up
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: the grave you keep digging.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Where is Sudoku? Sudoku is the number, is it
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: the Sudoku.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Hi, how to have season 5? I think I'm
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: the problem.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: What, what, what again?
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: It's Sadako scary, man.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Sadoku which one come out from the TV, then she
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: can come out from the blanket also. The
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: ring,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: the
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: ring. OK,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: to me, ah, the most scariest movie is Dark Water.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Same, same taste. My favorite Japanese ghost Japanese. It's very atmospheric,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: so
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: good.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, realistic. The buildup
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: is crazy.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I mean Taiwan is uh um uh shutter shuttle,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: the camera, the last shot that is karma. It's about
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: karma la.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I like The Conjuring also, especially the part.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Am I the only one who who has never watched
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: The Conjuring. Go watch the one with the pain one.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Then she take the painting, then the spirit come out
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: of the painting, rush towards her.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe I should start watching. You need to watch Conjuring
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: is the best. Conjuring is very, very good. Have you
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: seen Dark Water? No, I got a DVD. I
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: borrow. You
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: should watch the Japanese version. Hollywood.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: The Japanese Japanese versions damn creepy. It's super creepy. Dark Waters,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: it's very real, very realistic. You, you, you really feel
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: that this can happen.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: yeah.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: What's this homework, I think I need to do some homework.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Then you learn about Akigahara. Akigahara.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: What is that?
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Uh, the forest, the famous forest, ah, yeah, the creepy
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: the famous forest.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Alright, so thank you again, Dennis for joining us. Thank you, Dennis.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Thank
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: you. Thank you, Dennis, my, my senior. And thank you
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: to all of you for tuning into Tales from Incredible Tales.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: New episodes go online every week on MeWatch, me Listen, YouTube,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Spotify and Apple Podcast. My name is Dennis. My name
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: is Kyle, my name is Fer and we'll
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: See you next time. Tales from Incredible Tales was hosted
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: by Far Anwar and Kyle Ong with special guests, Dennis Chew,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: directed and produced by Kyle Ong, written by Pear Li Kee,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: assistant director, Chin Chin Wei, director of photography, Shervin Chua, Gaffer,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Chan.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Art director, Jolene Lim, sound recordist, Audrey Lee. Behind the
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: scenes footage shot by Ella May Walker, hair and makeup
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: by Bino Lim, Production assistance, Aishwarani Durias Singam, Ella May Walker.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Post-production by Fudge Studios. Assistant editor, Ella May Walker. Motion
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: graphics by Jolene Lim.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Camera support by Nikon Singapore, lighting support by Amaan, smoke
• 44:52
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• 45:01
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• 45:04
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