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Make America Trans Again w/ River L. Ramirez | TBCC Ep. 21 · The Big Cunty Couch

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SPEAKER_00: Coming up on the big cut tea couch.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm always like one bad day away from fully diving into dolls and dollhouses and doll making.
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SPEAKER_02: You need a little mahogany dining room set based on what I'm saying.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Wow.
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SPEAKER_04: I would love to get to know you, know more about you, and visit you in America and Massachusetts.
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SPEAKER_04: That'd be really nice for me to do that.
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SPEAKER_04: And I want to go to education.
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SPEAKER_04: Penis never stops.
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SPEAKER_02: Penis never stops.
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SPEAKER_02: Stick around.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: See.
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SPEAKER_02: Sorry, it's the red hair.
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SPEAKER_02: Hi, this unfortunately is giving Democrat Republican.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm always like the red one.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you cause you are not.
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SPEAKER_02: Don't even start that rumor.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm all honey, I'm all right.
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SPEAKER_02: No, you know what's so funny now?
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SPEAKER_00: I feel like the crazy right conservative people are now dressing like this, though.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like they're all doing like a shtick.
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SPEAKER_00: They've got like a tight little cheetah.
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SPEAKER_00: Like a tight pant.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, well not maybe not cheetah, round, but like a tight, like a stupid outfit with like dumb glasses and like a dumb haircut.
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SPEAKER_00: They look like millennials from like Well, that's definitely a dumb haircut.
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SPEAKER_02: And dumb glasses, dumb body shape, dumb personality.
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SPEAKER_00: Lifestyle, uh job, dumb breath.
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SPEAKER_00: Cool.
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SPEAKER_03: Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
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SPEAKER_00: Hi.
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SPEAKER_00: Hi, how are ya?
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Big Country Couch.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm Mike Fales.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'm Gina Bugatti of Bugatti Farms.
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SPEAKER_02: Not the car, the farms.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like everyone always thinks we own the cars, but we own the farms.
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SPEAKER_02: And you just zoom in.
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SPEAKER_02: Sorry, I don't know why I did that.
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SPEAKER_02: That's from BC before COVID.
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SPEAKER_02: I used to be a character actor, and that's a little old bit.
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SPEAKER_02: And you know what?
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SPEAKER_02: It wasn't funny then, and it ain't funny now, girl.
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SPEAKER_02: Did you ever put that out?
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SPEAKER_02: You did.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: It's out there, it's out in the world.
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SPEAKER_00: And it was one of those things where you're like, well, I think I'm gonna release it in five parts.
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SPEAKER_00: And it was like, maybe um straighten it down to two.
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SPEAKER_00: But I still think like Bugatti of Bugatti Farms.
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SPEAKER_02: Like it's not, it sounds luxe, but it's like not.
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SPEAKER_02: Who are you wearing?
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SPEAKER_02: What is your problem, my dear?
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SPEAKER_02: Who am I wearing?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm wearing actually vintage mosquito.
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SPEAKER_02: It looks great.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: I love a cheetah moment.
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SPEAKER_02: And the glasses are from Shen.
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SPEAKER_02: But is it Shen or Sheen?
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SPEAKER_02: Sheen.
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SPEAKER_02: Shein.
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SPEAKER_02: Sheen?
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know what it is either.
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SPEAKER_00: Does anyone know?
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SPEAKER_02: Sheen, but um, the I dragify them using little teeny doll parts.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Isn't that cool?
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SPEAKER_02: Like little moldings?
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SPEAKER_00: Florettes.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're like they're supposed to be big for like doors or for your little dollhouse dining room.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Who knew?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm always like one bad day away from like fully diving into dolls and dollhouses and doll mentions.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like perv um weirdo who like dolls.
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SPEAKER_02: You need a little mahogany dining room set.
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SPEAKER_02: Based on what I just do my pants.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh based on what I'm seeing here.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_02: I should get you that, a teeny chair.
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SPEAKER_00: That'd be amazing.
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SPEAKER_00: Like I said, you I never get gifts and certainly never get them from you.
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SPEAKER_02: So that'll be uh I have a lot of gifts coming for for you.
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SPEAKER_02: For you.
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SPEAKER_02: For you.
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SPEAKER_02: They're coming soon.
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SPEAKER_02: Um and what is my problem?
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, I have two problems today.
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SPEAKER_02: One is that I'm not smoking SIGs or weed during May, and I'm fucking bored out of my mind.
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SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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SPEAKER_02: And that's like the addict screaming, all right?
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SPEAKER_02: Aren't you you're supposed to like sit in that boredom?
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SPEAKER_02: But I'm like, what the fuck do I do?
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SPEAKER_02: Like get into bird housing?
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SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, get into miniature chairs.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I have.
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SPEAKER_02: Because like literally, I'm like, whatever would I do?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm so fucking bored.
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SPEAKER_02: And you have edibles or you're just off THC altogether.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm off the SIGs, but they're coming right back after this.
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SPEAKER_02: 30-day detox.
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SPEAKER_02: And then also problem number two is I lost my earpod ear pod spec pro?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Pro?
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SPEAKER_00: They're pro are they pro?
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SPEAKER_02: They're pro.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh and I bought them.
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SPEAKER_02: Things I didn't want to spend, like I didn't, I didn't know.
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SPEAKER_02: Is it$300 for the case?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's up to three.
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SPEAKER_02: Insane.
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SPEAKER_02: So I rebought them because they kept saying, like, my find my my case was like the case was in bed style, and like one, the left one kept showing up in my room, and I'm like, it's not here.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: And never mind the right one.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Forget it.
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SPEAKER_02: Who knows that it's like?
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SPEAKER_02: She's out of here.
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SPEAKER_02: So I bought new ones, and then today on the way here, I opened up my backpack, the little top zippy.
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SPEAKER_02: They're in there.
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SPEAKER_02: So what do I do?
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SPEAKER_02: Return the Yeah, but now I'm like enjoying the new system.
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SPEAKER_02: How much newer is it?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's something's different.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, the the noise canceling gets worse over time.
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SPEAKER_00: That that is something I have noticed.
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SPEAKER_00: When I had to replace mine.
4:30
SPEAKER_02: Well, do you shower with yours?
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SPEAKER_00: No.
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SPEAKER_00: I do.
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SPEAKER_00: Are are you supposed to do that?
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SPEAKER_02: I think technically they're waterproof, but I don't know if that means like go submerged into water.
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SPEAKER_00: Which is what you do when you bathe.
4:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: You dive headfirst into the tub.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: But I do.
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SPEAKER_02: I do, and they do okay until they like one of them gets a little like ringing sound.
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SPEAKER_02: So that's why I've been enjoying the new the new.
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SPEAKER_00: The new new.
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SPEAKER_02: The new ones, because there's no ringing.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm but I'm also like, what do I do with the old?
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SPEAKER_02: I think send them to Reba.
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SPEAKER_00: You could do that, but I think you can also trade them in for like a gift card or something, which I if they're if they're not super old, you might get a decent amount of money for them.
5:04
SPEAKER_02: They like melt it down and make something for someone else?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they turn it into like a keychain.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh no, I I was trying to see if I could like do that with my phone, and I did the like evaluator, and they were gonna give me a gift card for six dollars for for my for my iPhone 12.
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SPEAKER_00: I was like, okay, cool.
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SPEAKER_00: I guess I'll just keep this forever then.
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SPEAKER_00: Like there's literally it'll cost me more, it'll cost me more to get rid of it than it will be to to uh get that gift card.
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SPEAKER_00: It's ridiculous.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, use that as a doorstop.
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SPEAKER_02: Um I'm giving slutty secretary, but you know what I'm also giving?
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SPEAKER_00: What?
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SPEAKER_02: Lucy Lou in Charlie's Angels 1.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes! Um the when she's the uh efficiency expert.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, with uh with Drew and and Cameron and Drag.
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SPEAKER_02: Efficiency expert.
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SPEAKER_02: Hello, pretty spot on.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're incredibly efficient.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm very efficient.
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SPEAKER_02: I I am the uh efficiency expert.
5:53
SPEAKER_00: We were shooting a little uh extra content and you were smacking literally everything with the the little riding crop.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, oh yeah, this is part of it.
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SPEAKER_00: Which I think actually this is relevant to today's today's guest because I think that was a prop that we got and didn't use for uh pervert everything.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay, perf.
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SPEAKER_02: It's been I'm so excited for our guests today.
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SPEAKER_00: Me too.
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SPEAKER_02: It's all in the family.
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SPEAKER_02: Like truly.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, love it.
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SPEAKER_02: Coming soon.
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SPEAKER_02: I we break the fourth wall.
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SPEAKER_02: They're right over there.
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SPEAKER_02: Hello?
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SPEAKER_02: Hello?
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SPEAKER_02: Hello Amelia! Amelia All in the family.
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SPEAKER_02: Woo! Same in your life.
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SPEAKER_00: You're like me, right?
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SPEAKER_00: I can live with you, right?
6:37
SPEAKER_00: I can live with you.
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SPEAKER_00: You guys love me?
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SPEAKER_00: Anyone want to marry me?
6:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
6:44
SPEAKER_01: I'm just like my talk show for Persona.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, yes, I am very excited.
6:52
SPEAKER_02: It's our first guest of this.
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SPEAKER_02: The first guest of the season, yeah, yeah, yeah.
6:55
SPEAKER_00: Because booking has been what?
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SPEAKER_00: A nightmare this this time around.
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SPEAKER_02: Everyone like has cooler things to do thanks.
7:00
SPEAKER_00: It's just we've been on, I mean, everything's all over the place because of the accident.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
7:06
SPEAKER_04: Nothing makes sense right now.
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SPEAKER_04: The fact that you're doing anything is like amazing.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like, what?
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SPEAKER_02: Thanks.
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SPEAKER_02: We need to hear that because uh really that means a lot.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: It's hard getting it's hard getting out of bed.
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SPEAKER_02: Never mind getting into this.
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unknown: And then you putting this much effort too, like it makes me happy.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, thank you so much.
7:25
SPEAKER_00: You can leave now.
7:27
SPEAKER_00: We got the shot!
7:30
SPEAKER_02: But that was there before.
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SPEAKER_02: Please shit your jumpsuit.
7:34
SPEAKER_02: Um we need uh who are you wearing and what is your problem?
7:37
SPEAKER_00: Are those little girl pants?
7:39
SPEAKER_00: They they feel and look like they are little girl pants.
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SPEAKER_00: I've I tell myself every time I wear them, like, this is the last time I need to get these cut into shorts or I have to get rid of them.
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SPEAKER_00: Because not only did they look like little girl pants, when I bought them, they had like like a panty liner like sewn into them, like a gussel.
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SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Oh, are you all gussy though?
7:55
SPEAKER_00: Second hand, they were in the men's section, but maybe they were put there um erroneously.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: They never were my favorite, to be honest.
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SPEAKER_02: But now today I'm actually thinking they're cool again.
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SPEAKER_02: Wow, that's so nice.
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SPEAKER_02: So nice of me.
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SPEAKER_02: No, seriously, today I like them.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't know, maybe it's your new torso.
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SPEAKER_00: Would you cut them into shorts?
8:11
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, well, I'm wearing this um this sweater vest that I got on Depop like a couple years ago.
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SPEAKER_00: And when they when it got shipped to me, it stunk like like girl body spray.
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SPEAKER_00: I was like, sell something secondhand.
8:22
SPEAKER_00: You gotta pull back on the sense, I think.
8:25
SPEAKER_00: Like you don't you it should come in neutral.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, what do you do you think when they receive like the the secondhand stuff, do they like batch blast it with like Lysol or not even?
8:35
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Depop doesn't do shit.
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SPEAKER_00: Deepop is like d direct.
8:38
SPEAKER_00: If it's like the real, what do they do?
8:39
SPEAKER_00: Nothing.
8:40
SPEAKER_00: I think maybe like a spray spray.
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SPEAKER_00: Lysol.
8:42
SPEAKER_00: Um oh, but this this I said this because this is giving me like an actual like man's torso for one.
8:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you look like little waist.
8:48
SPEAKER_02: I like the cheetah pants.
8:49
SPEAKER_02: It's a loose cheetah theme for no fucking reason.
8:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
8:51
SPEAKER_00: And I'm wearing a cheetah tie and I'm wearing my old glasses from college, which is like this this is what I used to wear on the daily.
8:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
8:58
SPEAKER_00: And what did I say?
8:59
SPEAKER_00: I was like, wow, your face got wide.
9:01
SPEAKER_00: And that's exactly what Michael said too.
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SPEAKER_00: Really?
9:03
SPEAKER_00: He was like, he's like, I was like, isn't it crazy?
9:04
SPEAKER_00: I used to wear these every day.
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SPEAKER_00: And he's like, well, yeah, your face got bigger, though.
9:06
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Well, how do you know me?
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SPEAKER_00: Men get so wide, it's like, how do you not get wide?
9:10
SPEAKER_00: I don't you have to course it your head.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you do every night.
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SPEAKER_00: Because I do.
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SPEAKER_00: Is it working?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Men's faces don't grow, they stay small in the in the center, and then it's that's big head.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
9:21
SPEAKER_00: Which is I feel like I have a big face and a big head, so it's only getting bigger.
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SPEAKER_00: Hello.
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SPEAKER_03: My press on nail.
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SPEAKER_00: And my problem, other than my big face, I mean my my tiny face and big head is I think um my I think my feet have grown.
9:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
9:34
SPEAKER_00: That happens too.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah.
9:36
SPEAKER_00: So I your nose, your ears.
9:37
SPEAKER_00: Well, the nose is never gonna stop.
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SPEAKER_00: Your wiener and wiener is never gonna stop.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, but the the feet, I was like, Woo.
9:45
SPEAKER_01: There's a live, there's a live audience.
9:48
SPEAKER_01: All the signs say applause.
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SPEAKER_01: Penis, what?
9:52
SPEAKER_02: Everyone's like, penis never stops.
9:54
SPEAKER_00: Penis never stops.
9:55
SPEAKER_00: Wouldn't that be crazy if your penis never stopped growing?
9:57
SPEAKER_00: I think that'd be like a very different culture.
9:59
SPEAKER_00: Like people would be like, I don't think it would no men roll everything.
10:04
SPEAKER_00: It would be worse.
10:05
SPEAKER_00: It'd be worse.
10:05
SPEAKER_00: But wouldn't it get to be like in jail again?
10:09
SPEAKER_00: Oh no.
10:10
SPEAKER_00: Oh god, yeah.
10:12
SPEAKER_00: We're like, yeah.
10:13
SPEAKER_00: I see that for you.
10:14
SPEAKER_00: No.
10:16
SPEAKER_02: I see that for you.
10:17
SPEAKER_02: I see it too.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: Oh god.
10:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, my problem is my dick won't stop growing.
10:22
SPEAKER_00: Uh no, my feet got bigger.
10:25
SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
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SPEAKER_00: Applause.
10:27
SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah.
10:29
SPEAKER_00: No, my feet, I always thought I was a 12, but I really think I it's it's gotta be something else.
10:35
SPEAKER_02: Well, in recent years, your foot has gotten smaller and more uh to me, to the eye, smaller and more beautiful.
10:40
SPEAKER_02: I always thought you had a horrible, like disgusting, crazy, overgrown, weird, deformed foot.
10:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
10:47
SPEAKER_02: Based on what you told me.
10:49
SPEAKER_02: Right.
10:49
SPEAKER_02: And then and and based on what I I saw.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
10:52
SPEAKER_00: And smelled and heard and ran from.
10:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
10:55
SPEAKER_02: But uh it's been looking to me smaller and cuter.
10:57
SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, what's your secret?
10:59
SPEAKER_00: One of the nicest things you've ever ever said to me.
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SPEAKER_00: I think uh no, I I was putting lotion on them for a while and then I stopped, and I guess they just stayed cuter.
11:08
SPEAKER_02: And you combated fungus or something?
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe.
11:11
SPEAKER_00: Uh that's it.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, big feet.
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SPEAKER_00: I guess I need to like go get my foot like professionally sized and figure out what my new shoe size is.
11:17
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
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SPEAKER_02: Because 12 ain't cutting it.
11:19
SPEAKER_02: That's content.
11:21
SPEAKER_02: We should go do that.
11:22
SPEAKER_02: We should get you all measured up.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, you said your husband got hit by a car, obviously, as we know.
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SPEAKER_02: And I um around the time of the accident, my I my my plant had not had sort of died.
11:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
11:35
SPEAKER_02: But and so I was like, I'm gonna just bring this back.
11:39
SPEAKER_00: You're you're I love it.
11:42
SPEAKER_00: Leave it in, leave it in.
11:43
SPEAKER_00: You just were walking back and forth across the Yes.
11:50
SPEAKER_02: We're like, who is that?
11:50
SPEAKER_02: That's what we need for ratings.
11:53
SPEAKER_02: Get off our set! Um my rubber plant didn't do so well last year.
11:58
SPEAKER_00: That's a rubber plant?
11:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, wow.
12:00
SPEAKER_00: It's literally one stick and one leaf.
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SPEAKER_02: But I around the time of the accident, I decided that it was Michael Proudie, and I was like, and I named it Michael Proudie.
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SPEAKER_02: Wow.
12:10
SPEAKER_02: And it's for it's thriving.
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SPEAKER_02: That's great.
12:12
SPEAKER_02: Well, you told me.
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SPEAKER_02: That is your husband.
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SPEAKER_00: You're like, I'm pretending that like it's him, so hopefully he's getting better.
12:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
12:18
SPEAKER_02: And I sent you a picture of it last night with Billy Eilish.
12:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
12:21
SPEAKER_02: What am I What's that song called?
12:25
SPEAKER_02: What's that song called?
12:26
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
12:26
SPEAKER_02: What was I made?
12:27
SPEAKER_02: What was I made for?
12:28
SPEAKER_02: I always pretend that's like her pussy singing.
12:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's it's the nothing has ever been breathier than that song.
12:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
12:39
SPEAKER_02: It's totally the whole time.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
12:41
SPEAKER_02: Totally pussy is like my album.
12:43
SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah.
12:44
SPEAKER_02: Totally pussy.
12:45
SPEAKER_02: My love firm named Michael Proud is doing well, and I can only imagine your husband is too, because uh they are one and the same.
12:51
SPEAKER_02: That's so um nice strange.
12:54
SPEAKER_00: That you I think you you told me that, and you're like, isn't that just weird of me?
12:57
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, yeah, it is weird.
12:59
SPEAKER_00: That is weird.
12:59
SPEAKER_00: That's so weird.
13:01
SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
13:02
SPEAKER_00: No, it's nice that you're uh you're thinking of him and I'm watering and growing.
13:06
SPEAKER_00: Water him in real life.
13:07
SPEAKER_00: I think that would help too.
13:08
SPEAKER_00: It will.
13:08
SPEAKER_00: Uh no, he had a great week.
13:09
SPEAKER_00: He um he I was telling you he's uh got his piano voiced and he's been um obsessed.
13:13
SPEAKER_02: And wasn't it kind of cool that I was like, wait, that's like the second part to tuning, it's like stylizing the tuning.
13:19
SPEAKER_02: Kind of kind of yeah, yeah.
13:20
SPEAKER_02: Kind of knowledgeable.
13:21
SPEAKER_02: We pissed someone else off today.
13:23
SPEAKER_02: Oh, right.
13:23
SPEAKER_02: We pissed off the French cabaret.
13:25
SPEAKER_02: The French cabaret.
13:26
SPEAKER_02: Because like we did a tutorial about like how to make like a tool boa that's like, you know, really fluffy and huge.
13:31
SPEAKER_00: Which is the only thing of ours that has ever gotten well.
13:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like a little viral.
13:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
13:36
SPEAKER_02: Um, and then today someone was like, This isn't a boa, boa is our feathers.
13:39
SPEAKER_02: This is a cheap fabric.
13:40
SPEAKER_02: That's not a boa, I'm part of the French cabaret.
13:42
SPEAKER_02: I I was like, We have we have ostrich too, honey.
13:45
SPEAKER_00: And then they responded with like crying, laughing, and hard.
13:47
SPEAKER_00: So it was like now we're now they live.
13:48
SPEAKER_00: We want them back.
13:50
SPEAKER_02: How are you gonna respond?
13:51
SPEAKER_02: And did you like my response?
13:52
SPEAKER_00: I I I liked your response.
13:53
SPEAKER_00: I thought I you got you, I I'm usually the one who gives like a sassy response.
13:57
SPEAKER_00: Right.
13:57
SPEAKER_00: I always take the high road in a cool way, huh?
13:59
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
14:00
SPEAKER_00: Uh after after the the they they referenced the French cabaret in all caps, they were screaming about the French cabaret.
14:05
SPEAKER_00: All caps, I'm part of the French cabaret.
14:07
SPEAKER_00: I I wanted to be like, oh, I'm sorry, there's some confusion here.
14:09
SPEAKER_00: Boa stands for Bank of America.
14:10
SPEAKER_00: Hope that helps.
14:11
SPEAKER_00: That would have been fun.
14:12
SPEAKER_00: Just leave a weird, like, not like nonsense comment like that.
14:14
SPEAKER_02: But you know, I should have also been like, babe, so are we.
14:17
SPEAKER_02: Like, part we're part of the French cabaret.
14:19
SPEAKER_02: All caps, babe, so are we.
14:21
SPEAKER_02: Clap, clap, clap.
14:22
SPEAKER_02: Could have been a thing.
14:23
SPEAKER_02: That would have been good, yeah.
14:24
SPEAKER_02: Get him on the button.
14:24
SPEAKER_02: We just moved it out.
14:25
SPEAKER_02: It was on the button.
14:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
14:26
SPEAKER_02: Get the whole French cabaret on the pod.
14:28
SPEAKER_02: That'd be amazing.
14:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then let us join.
14:30
SPEAKER_02: Really quick before we take a break.
14:30
SPEAKER_02: I always make fun of office pumps, but today I have an office pump on.
14:33
SPEAKER_02: But it makes sense.
14:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for once it makes sense.
14:35
SPEAKER_02: Uh I made a pencil skirt.
14:37
SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, Steve Madison.
14:38
SPEAKER_02: It was breaking.
14:39
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, wait, hold on.
14:40
SPEAKER_02: Getting something in the earpiece.
14:41
SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
14:42
SPEAKER_02: Apparently, I'm wearing an office pump.
14:44
SPEAKER_02: Just in, I have a little Steve Madison going on.
14:46
SPEAKER_00: Cute.
14:47
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
14:47
SPEAKER_02: Um, should we take a break and we should let our guests do on camera?
14:51
SPEAKER_00: We should.
14:52
SPEAKER_02: We can't even find our guests anymore.
14:54
SPEAKER_02: Like, hello?
14:55
SPEAKER_02: They've been looking for mirrors all around the building.
14:58
SPEAKER_02: Let's take a little break.
15:05
SPEAKER_04: No, it's okay.
15:06
SPEAKER_04: I'm not sure.
15:07
SPEAKER_00: We're not.
15:08
SPEAKER_00: So that's why that's why I prefaced.
15:11
SPEAKER_00: True, true.
15:11
SPEAKER_04: Nah, yeah, but I got the thing.
15:12
SPEAKER_00: You're like, true, true, you're not.
15:14
SPEAKER_04: You're not.
15:14
SPEAKER_04: You guys are pretty bad.
15:16
SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
15:17
SPEAKER_00: We are pretty bad.
15:19
SPEAKER_00: And we're back.
15:20
SPEAKER_00: For the first time on season two history, we have a guest, the one and only dear, dear member of our family, River.
15:27
SPEAKER_03: River El Romero.
15:33
SPEAKER_02: That's my hockey horn.
15:34
SPEAKER_02: We were saying River's all in the family because we've known River for a hundred thousand years by now.
15:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, truly.
15:39
SPEAKER_02: I think River's the reason why we why we're here.
15:42
SPEAKER_00: It's there's there's a very small chain that goes from Misha to Sam to River.
15:46
SPEAKER_00: And that kind of is like, you were the first person who put our work in a show.
15:50
SPEAKER_00: Totally.
15:51
SPEAKER_00: You're the first person who gave us an audience.
15:53
SPEAKER_00: You discovered Sister's Weekend.
15:55
SPEAKER_04: You had like such a such a little aesthetic, maybe?
16:00
SPEAKER_04: No, you had like your just little vibes together.
16:03
SPEAKER_04: We're like, and I was like, what's going on over there?
16:07
SPEAKER_04: And then I looked you guys up and we were having so much fun.
16:10
SPEAKER_04: And I love you.
16:11
SPEAKER_02: Oh thank you for being our first guest.
16:16
SPEAKER_04: Remember when we wrote the Franz?
16:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
16:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
16:21
SPEAKER_04: And nobody wanted it.
16:22
SPEAKER_00: Everyone was like, fuck.
16:23
SPEAKER_04: But it's so funny to me.
16:25
SPEAKER_04: It's still so funny.
16:26
SPEAKER_00: The gala.
16:27
SPEAKER_00: The gala.
16:28
SPEAKER_00: The gay.
16:30
SPEAKER_02: It was really funny.
16:30
SPEAKER_02: Do you guys say gala or gala?
16:31
SPEAKER_02: I say gala.
16:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you gotta say gala.
16:34
SPEAKER_02: If you say gala.
16:34
SPEAKER_04: Gala.
16:35
SPEAKER_02: Gay.
16:36
SPEAKER_02: Don't say gay.
16:36
SPEAKER_02: Don't say gala.
16:37
SPEAKER_04: Don't say gala.
16:38
SPEAKER_02: Don't say gala.
16:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that sucks that that wasn't made.
16:40
SPEAKER_02: Because didn't I have some alone time with like an orca whale?
16:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
16:44
unknown: Whale looks to you.
16:46
SPEAKER_02: And we were playing with scale.
16:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
16:48
SPEAKER_02: I had like a moment where like the whale.
16:50
SPEAKER_01: But didn't you say like, why am I unhappy?
16:53
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
16:58
SPEAKER_02: My character was lost because I was like no push at the time.
17:01
SPEAKER_02: Their meaning.
17:02
SPEAKER_02: But like, so I had like an underwater moment with an older.
17:05
SPEAKER_02: The whale asked you, Are you happy?
17:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
17:08
unknown: Well, you look at the whale's eye and the tiny.
17:10
SPEAKER_02: And I literally was like the whole size of the.
17:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:15
SPEAKER_00: Should we talk about it?
17:16
SPEAKER_00: Can you believe they didn't green light?
17:18
SPEAKER_00: Should we talk about like what the show was?
17:20
SPEAKER_04: I guess say a little, a little bit.
17:22
SPEAKER_00: If I were if I recall, it's been a minute.
17:23
SPEAKER_04: If anybody wants to pick it up.
17:25
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's it's available.
17:26
SPEAKER_00: It is available.
17:27
SPEAKER_00: The general premise was that it was a group of people who were kidnapped by a jigsaw-like person and they trauma bonded and then like had to live together and try to like make sense of their lives.
17:39
SPEAKER_00: Right, but together because they're trauma bonded.
17:41
SPEAKER_02: But weren't they supposed to dance?
17:43
SPEAKER_02: They were forced to dance sexy and cute as well.
17:46
SPEAKER_04: They were forced to dance sexy and cute is one of the jigsaw premises.
17:51
SPEAKER_00: Guy's name was Palm Frond.
17:53
SPEAKER_00: Because I think you were literally, you were literally in Kat's living room and there were like plants, and it's like, what if Palm?
17:58
SPEAKER_00: It's like a little French.
18:00
SPEAKER_00: Now that's French cabaret.
18:01
SPEAKER_00: But it was the show was called Fronds, and it was like Friends Meet Saw.
18:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Friends Meet Meet.
18:08
SPEAKER_04: So it's like Friends Meet Saw.
18:09
SPEAKER_04: So let us know if that's something that you want to do.
18:12
SPEAKER_04: We're still available.
18:14
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
18:14
SPEAKER_04: By the time this is all, probably have moved to Philadelphia, but and given up on kind of my whole career here in New York.
18:20
SPEAKER_04: But let's pick it up.
18:22
SPEAKER_02: It was literally friends meet saw.
18:24
SPEAKER_02: Like that.
18:26
SPEAKER_02: Which like that's sellable.
18:28
SPEAKER_02: It was so what were they thinking of?
18:31
SPEAKER_00: It was the three of us and Captain Desco and Change.
18:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we as it's it's so systematically to do a photo shoot.
18:38
SPEAKER_04: But I feel like no.
18:39
SPEAKER_01: We didn't.
18:40
SPEAKER_01: I posted that once and I was like, not all.
18:42
SPEAKER_04: Look at who our president is and what he's saying.
18:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:44
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, there's an there's nothing we're doing that's weird.
18:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, exactly.
18:48
SPEAKER_04: We try to there's nothing we're doing that's weird.
18:51
SPEAKER_04: You look amazing, by the way.
18:52
SPEAKER_04: I just look like this.
18:54
SPEAKER_00: I I wish.
18:55
SPEAKER_00: Well, one of our uh classic lines is who are you wearing and what is your problem, River?
18:59
SPEAKER_04: So you want to describe what you're so like I'm wearing the deep voice kills me.
19:06
SPEAKER_04: Juicy, and I have my boyfriend's sweater on, and like my cross because I love Jesus.
19:12
SPEAKER_04: Right, of course, of course.
19:13
SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, a lot of people think that like just because you're Republican, like you're mega, like you're Christian, like you're a certain type of person, and it's like I'm like always with my boyfriend's like friends, like always like driving a car, um my boyfriend's car and like a truck.
19:32
SPEAKER_04: I'm a truck driver sometimes.
19:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for like uh like or more like freelance.
19:38
SPEAKER_04: It's like no, I'm not really driving, but like I have people that work for me and they're women.
19:44
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so I'm like trying to empower women, and like I think that like Trump really empowers women because he loves pussy.
19:52
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's true, yeah.
19:54
SPEAKER_04: So I don't know, like yeah.
19:58
SPEAKER_04: Full voice change, so like yeah, so like yeah, but yeah, you know, there's like there's like girls that change their voices.
20:10
SPEAKER_04: I used to have a roommate like that, and I was like, what the hell?
20:14
SPEAKER_04: What's her name was all over, and but she was like a sexy girl, but it was like, what who are you?
20:20
SPEAKER_00: Who was the blood startup scammer woman?
20:22
SPEAKER_00: Oh with just a single drop of blood.
20:25
SPEAKER_00: We can scale disease in your life.
20:28
SPEAKER_00: What are you talking about?
20:28
SPEAKER_00: The what was her name?
20:29
SPEAKER_04: Um Yeah, yeah, I know who you're talking about.
20:31
SPEAKER_00: The scam girl, black turtleneck.
20:33
SPEAKER_00: She thought she was like a founder, she was like pretending to be Steve Jobs, and she was like, it was a whole like there's been 900 documentary series about it.
20:39
SPEAKER_02: Email me.
20:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:40
SPEAKER_02: Wait, when you finally like finish this look putting it together, you're like, my emails surge up.
20:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like I'm hitting on.
20:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, every everyone's like, hey, do you want to be part of this thing?
20:50
SPEAKER_04: But only dress like this.
20:52
SPEAKER_04: You're so bookable in this.
20:53
SPEAKER_04: I'm so I'm so I'm finally so bookable.
20:56
SPEAKER_04: Maybe this could be my audition for for everything.
21:00
SPEAKER_02: For Love Island.
21:01
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, for a 90-day fiance.
21:03
SPEAKER_02: You look amazing.
21:04
SPEAKER_02: I know like River's one of the funniest people I know.
21:07
SPEAKER_04: I would love to get to know you.
21:09
SPEAKER_04: I would love to get I would love to get to know you, know more about you, and visit you in America and Massachusetts.
21:16
SPEAKER_04: It'd be really nice for me to do that.
21:18
SPEAKER_04: I've been spent so long spending spenting so long alone, and I don't know what to do anymore.
21:26
SPEAKER_04: I need a really a man to help me and I want to go to education.
21:33
SPEAKER_00: For one second it was like, is that Irish?
21:35
SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't know what else.
21:37
SPEAKER_00: She's from Ireland.
21:37
SPEAKER_02: I was like, let's keep going.
21:39
SPEAKER_02: But what is your problem?
21:41
SPEAKER_02: And we like petty problems.
21:43
SPEAKER_04: Like my real problem or my character's problem?
21:45
SPEAKER_02: Both.
21:46
SPEAKER_02: Both.
21:46
SPEAKER_02: Like 'cause like who are you wearing and what is your problem?
21:48
SPEAKER_02: It's kind of fun to be like you as river.
21:51
SPEAKER_02: But also I want to know more of um Did we say your name was?
21:55
SPEAKER_02: Your character name?
21:56
SPEAKER_02: Mat Madden Madden.
21:58
SPEAKER_02: Like Steve like Like Steve Madden.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: Madden.
22:01
SPEAKER_02: What was the football game?
22:02
SPEAKER_02: It was like Nintendo.
22:04
SPEAKER_02: Madden.
22:04
SPEAKER_02: Madden Madden.
22:05
SPEAKER_02: Madden.
22:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I love like games.
22:08
SPEAKER_02: Madden 64.
22:09
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I love playing games.
22:10
SPEAKER_00: Like a gamer?
22:11
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like what my boyfriend plays it.
22:13
SPEAKER_00: Like, I just you serve up the apps.
22:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
22:16
SPEAKER_04: I'm just like naturally good at it.
22:18
SPEAKER_04: Like I don't really like try.
22:21
SPEAKER_04: It's kind of like like when we go dirt biking, like, I don't really.
22:26
SPEAKER_04: I'm just like naturally good at it.
22:28
SPEAKER_04: Like everyone's like, Madden, why are you so fucking good at this?
22:31
SPEAKER_04: It's crazy.
22:32
SPEAKER_02: Do you remember the movie Motocross?
22:33
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm like really like tough, you know.
22:37
SPEAKER_04: But like no one expects it coming from me.
22:40
SPEAKER_04: Like, especially these Ollie's dudes, but I like pwn them so hard.
22:44
SPEAKER_04: That's gamer card.
22:45
SPEAKER_02: When I hear dirt breaking, not to ignore you, um, but when I hear dirt biking, I think of full throttle, the uh VMX scene with Charles LaBeouf, right?
22:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, or I think of um the Disney St like movie of the month, uh, motocross.
23:01
SPEAKER_02: Do you remember that?
23:02
SPEAKER_04: Oh, I fucking remember that.
23:04
SPEAKER_04: Oh, I fucking remember that.
23:05
SPEAKER_04: That was like playing with drag.
23:07
SPEAKER_02: That was like Disney's first stat at drag.
23:10
SPEAKER_02: Why?
23:10
SPEAKER_02: Like that was crazy.
23:12
SPEAKER_02: She just got a buzz cut.
23:13
SPEAKER_02: She was her brother.
23:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:14
SPEAKER_02: Why was she her brother?
23:15
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, all those movies, like I really liked.
23:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they had a big budget for monthly.
23:21
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, yeah, I ended up.
23:23
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, yeah, when uh when a girl goes undercover and is dressed like a guy and nobody knows it's a girl.
23:31
SPEAKER_04: And gets on a dirt bike, man.
23:33
SPEAKER_04: Damn.
23:33
SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, yeah, that's pretty much my life.
23:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
23:37
SPEAKER_00: Dirt bike at all.
23:38
SPEAKER_04: And then when I dress up like this, it's like, oh my god.
23:41
SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, it's just like the movie.
23:43
SPEAKER_00: But you play like a crazy scam, and then you have to reveal yourself to everyone at the end.
23:48
SPEAKER_04: Well, I was I've been thinking about being like the White House like press secretary or who's a person who's speaker, the person who talks to the news.
23:56
SPEAKER_04: That's the efficiency uh expert.
23:59
SPEAKER_04: Because I could do a whole thing where it's like, oh, I'm detransitioned, like, oh my god, all this stuff, like, and this is why you don't do that.
24:07
SPEAKER_04: And the I'm the voice of Republicans, and I would eat that up.
24:10
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
24:10
SPEAKER_04: And I could just be like a woman can be like whatever she wants to be.
24:17
SPEAKER_04: And what's amazing about being a woman, womb, is that we have that, you know?
24:24
SPEAKER_04: And I think it's just like really sucks that anybody, and she's talks like that.
24:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
24:31
SPEAKER_04: Press security.
24:32
SPEAKER_02: Madden.
24:32
SPEAKER_04: Madden.
24:33
SPEAKER_04: And I think it really sucks that like people are afraid of being a woman.
24:40
SPEAKER_04: So she like unknowingly kind of champions like transness.
24:44
SPEAKER_04: Right.
24:45
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, unknowing.
24:45
SPEAKER_04: It goes like that.
24:46
SPEAKER_04: Unknowingly.
24:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:47
SPEAKER_04: Unknowingly.
24:48
SPEAKER_02: Madden's like woman womb and womb and campaign movement.
24:53
SPEAKER_04: Womb and yeah.
24:55
SPEAKER_02: But it's womb and it's like what's the and?
24:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she thinks it's woman.
25:00
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
25:01
SPEAKER_02: Because she thinks there's a D at the end of woman.
25:03
SPEAKER_02: Silent.
25:04
SPEAKER_02: There's always there's a there's a silent D.
25:05
SPEAKER_04: And then and then like trans women come, but she can't clock them.
25:09
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she can't.
25:10
SPEAKER_04: So she's like, come in, all women.
25:13
SPEAKER_04: She's like, I support women.
25:14
SPEAKER_04: I support women.
25:15
SPEAKER_04: No matter what you look like.
25:17
SPEAKER_00: Womb and.
25:18
SPEAKER_04: Womb and exactly.
25:20
SPEAKER_04: And then there's like it's only trans people.
25:22
SPEAKER_04: And she's like, wait, what's going on?
25:24
SPEAKER_04: And then she realizes she's a guy.
25:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's how it ends.
25:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:27
SPEAKER_04: Oh fuck.
25:28
SPEAKER_02: Kind of like that movie motocross.
25:30
unknown: Yeah.
25:30
SPEAKER_04: And that's a motherfucker.
25:33
SPEAKER_00: I said off camera when you were talking about the scene from the first Charlie's Angels where it's Lucy Lou and Efficiency expert.
25:39
SPEAKER_00: Cameron and Drew in mail drag.
25:41
SPEAKER_00: I always thought they looked really hot as a kid.
25:43
SPEAKER_00: I was like, why are these women dressed as men turning me on?
25:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:48
SPEAKER_00: I was like, what's going on there?
25:49
SPEAKER_00: Because they were like, I don't know, yeah.
25:51
SPEAKER_00: Or it was like they were pretty boys, but I was like, there was something horny about like their wispy beards or something.
25:57
SPEAKER_02: I was like, it's kind of like how I find it.
26:00
SPEAKER_02: Do you feel like that about trans guys?
26:01
SPEAKER_02: A weak jaw and like a little button nose, kind of cute.
26:04
SPEAKER_02: Like a little hoov when a guy kind of varies a little hooville, like one thimble.
26:09
SPEAKER_02: Just one little, you know, I mean, I'm like trans is hot.
26:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
26:13
SPEAKER_04: Like gender bending has always been hot.
26:15
SPEAKER_04: It's something I've never understood of why I liked it.
26:19
SPEAKER_04: But I I used to just be like on the train, and there would be like a I guess like a gay.
26:26
SPEAKER_04: It wasn't a gay guy, it was like someone more like feminine, like up, but it was like a guy dressed in like a femme way, and and I would just be like, why is that so beautiful to me?
26:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:41
SPEAKER_04: And I just didn't, I didn't and I didn't know what trans was, like I didn't know anything about it.
26:45
SPEAKER_04: And but I was just so taken every time somebody was in the middle area.
26:51
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
26:51
SPEAKER_04: And I didn't understand it.
26:53
SPEAKER_00: What but helped you figure it out?
26:56
SPEAKER_04: Time.
26:57
SPEAKER_00: You fall asleep.
26:58
SPEAKER_00: You're like time.
27:01
SPEAKER_04: Time.
27:02
SPEAKER_04: I think somebody well, education, because it's like somebody telling you about transness or non-binary and then meeting trans people and totally, yeah.
27:13
SPEAKER_04: Um because it just wasn't I I I feel like I just didn't have the words for it, but I I knew it was beautiful.
27:22
SPEAKER_04: That's all I knew.
27:24
SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, most of us find it beautiful.
27:26
SPEAKER_04: Like there's always like someone you run into and you're like, huh.
27:29
SPEAKER_04: Well, I guess like my first gender well, the the earliest thing I remember about like not understanding the whole gender thing was I I made a friend in school um when I first moved to Miami.
27:43
SPEAKER_04: And is that where you're from?
27:45
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm from Miami.
27:47
SPEAKER_04: So this mommy's back home.
27:50
SPEAKER_04: That's why this that's why it just clicks on.
27:53
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
27:54
SPEAKER_02: This is her casual.
27:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you were like my mom would scream.
27:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she would love this.
27:59
SPEAKER_04: She would love if I looked like this.
28:00
SPEAKER_04: And I don't.
28:01
SPEAKER_04: And I don't go.
28:04
SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah, so we I went to uh uh elementary Spanish, all Spanish-speaking elementary school there.
28:11
SPEAKER_04: And I made one friend my first day there, and it was this I didn't know he was a boy.
28:17
SPEAKER_04: Well, I was just like, we're the same.
28:19
SPEAKER_04: That's what I thought.
28:20
SPEAKER_04: I was like, oh, we're the same.
28:21
SPEAKER_04: And and I just like thought he was like really great, but I thought it was like a girl.
28:26
SPEAKER_04: And I was like, la la la, yeah.
28:29
SPEAKER_04: And then they split us into uh lines and PE, girls and boys.
28:35
SPEAKER_00: And you're like, wait, what?
28:36
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and so they I followed my friend to the boys line, and I was like, lily, and they're like, no, the girls line, and I was like, Yeah, but like my friend, and they're like, No, you're a girl.
28:50
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they're like, you're a girl, and I was like, no, but many like I'm the same as my friend, like what?
28:55
SPEAKER_04: And they're like ripping me from the boys' line, and I was like, Oh my god, realizing like in slow motion, and I was like, gender, yeah, and then and then and then shortly after, like just square dancing they would pair a boy and a girl, and I was like, But I I remember that moment being so like but we're the same, yeah, and I was quickly taught we are not the same.
29:23
SPEAKER_04: Wow, but that was my experience, and and then But that was a little pretty boy, like uh he felt safe.
29:29
SPEAKER_04: He just had longer hair.
29:31
SPEAKER_04: Love it really gay, and they stripped you, but just like when you're kids, you're all kind of the same.
29:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, totally.
29:37
SPEAKER_04: There's no like binary, there's no masculine boy.
29:40
SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah.
29:41
SPEAKER_04: What little boys like No, they're all like they are.
29:45
SPEAKER_02: I basically compared to me, they were masked boys.
29:48
SPEAKER_04: There's no mask boys.
29:49
SPEAKER_02: I could never do anything.
29:50
SPEAKER_04: Hellboys are gay.
29:52
SPEAKER_02: You know what makes me feel so masked?
29:53
SPEAKER_02: What?
29:54
SPEAKER_02: When I um when we have a bag of ice and I slam it down to break it, because you gotta be confident with that shit.
29:59
SPEAKER_02: You gotta like hold it down on concrete and I can see mask.
30:04
SPEAKER_02: Confidence with throwing ice.
30:05
SPEAKER_04: Maybe you need to redefine because you can be a hard femme.
30:09
SPEAKER_02: You're right.
30:09
SPEAKER_02: And I am, and you are, I am.
30:13
SPEAKER_00: I'm a dommy femme, Dommy Femi mommy.
30:15
SPEAKER_00: Bagot.
30:16
SPEAKER_02: But I do, but but like you know what I mean.
30:17
SPEAKER_02: Like throwing ice on the ice.
30:19
SPEAKER_02: You gotta go all out.
30:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:21
SPEAKER_02: That's the only time in my life I feel masked.
30:23
SPEAKER_02: It can surpass gender, but it just needs to be when I'm about to make a cocktail and I'm like, Wait, the ice is solid.
30:30
SPEAKER_02: Just like this.
30:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so that's my gender story.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: We always like wind up talking about gender one way or another, but like a gender guy.
30:42
SPEAKER_02: Like, who's more trans?
30:43
SPEAKER_04: You you because like like you I think because like when you dress like a woman, it's like low-key, like kind of beautiful.
30:53
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like like you you give off an S your essence is like like beautiful woman essence.
31:00
SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much.
31:01
SPEAKER_02: You sort of discovered uh we did gelato a a series where we played, did mom grab.
31:05
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, that didn't.
31:06
SPEAKER_02: That's what I was thinking about you.
31:08
SPEAKER_02: Sort of like, I don't know, got me my first manager because of that one character.
31:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
31:14
SPEAKER_04: That's funny.
31:14
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, I didn't do shit.
31:16
unknown: You did.
31:17
SPEAKER_04: No, I didn't do anything.
31:18
SPEAKER_02: I ended up getting dropped by the manager.
31:21
SPEAKER_02: And you didn't do shit then either.
31:23
SPEAKER_02: You didn't you didn't match me.
31:25
SPEAKER_02: It's all you.
31:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, I do make a pretty girl.
31:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I am certainly fluid in some sort of way.
31:31
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you're pretty.
31:34
SPEAKER_04: It's fun.
31:35
SPEAKER_04: I don't know if I could ever I mean, it's been cool to sometimes when people are like just think I'm a young man and I'm like, cool.
31:44
SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
31:44
SPEAKER_04: And then people sometimes pe people aren't con confused.
31:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, where are you now on your gender journey?
31:49
SPEAKER_02: Still non-binary, like whatever.
31:51
SPEAKER_04: I mean I'm non-binary.
31:52
SPEAKER_04: Like, make a choice.
31:54
SPEAKER_02: Saky gun.
31:55
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, really, choose now.
31:57
SPEAKER_04: I'm non-binary.
31:59
SPEAKER_04: I uh don't want to be a man, and I've never fit into being a woman.
32:06
SPEAKER_04: Like my whole life, it's always been like I've lost jobs from it, like just the way that I act.
32:12
SPEAKER_04: So how I feel is uh the way I feel is like I have like a really I'm like I know my body is like a sexy woman's body, and like I have th like I and I'm I I used to be a shame more ashamed of it, and now I'm I'm like, wait a minute.
32:31
SPEAKER_04: There's like this weird, there's this weird like war against anything that looks feminine and I'm kind of in this place where I'm like oh I have it, let me, I'm gonna embrace it.
32:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
32:47
SPEAKER_04: And I also think that just the way that I go in the world is masculine.
32:52
SPEAKER_04: Like the way that I'm in the world is masculine.
32:55
SPEAKER_04: Like w I've never really thought about it that way, but I I'm like, oh yeah, like I almost like okay, I was joking with a friend being like, okay, let's say you guys are two bros.
33:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, we are.
33:08
SPEAKER_00: You could tell.
33:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and can you not tell?
33:10
SPEAKER_04: And and you meet me and I look like this, but I'm like, but maybe instead it's it's actually I'm like trying to convince you that I've been freaky Friday, and it's just like you're dude.
33:21
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, dude, no, like it's me.
33:24
SPEAKER_04: Really?
33:24
SPEAKER_04: It's Brad.
33:25
SPEAKER_04: Brad like Brad.
33:26
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like your problem.
33:28
SPEAKER_04: We're drink drinking shit.
33:30
SPEAKER_04: Like, remember, like at the frat, like, no, I know.
33:33
SPEAKER_04: It's crazy.
33:35
SPEAKER_04: No, I know, dude.
33:36
SPEAKER_04: But look at this fat dumper.
33:39
SPEAKER_02: I know, and it kind of pussy, bro.
33:41
SPEAKER_02: We slug it.
33:43
SPEAKER_04: Don't, but don't fuck me, please.
33:45
SPEAKER_00: Well, isn't that like we're like, are you sure?
33:47
SPEAKER_00: I feel like I feel like if cis men were body swapped, they'd be like the first people who'd be like, ooh, they would be like loving femininity and like.
33:57
SPEAKER_04: No, but not until like, but when your friend wants to fuck you, I think they would do it.
34:01
SPEAKER_04: I think well, I'm saying, like, how I feel is like if I I feel like, oh, I was just a bro, and you're looking you're now treating me different because I am in here.
34:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
34:15
SPEAKER_04: So that's how I feel in regular life.
34:18
SPEAKER_04: Like I've never liked that aspect of uh having this kind of body.
34:24
SPEAKER_02: It's just like that's why I asked you.
34:26
SPEAKER_02: I was like, you're so beautiful, and I love to say that.
34:28
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, does that make you uncomfortable?
34:30
SPEAKER_04: Because No, I love, I love, I love beautiful.
34:33
SPEAKER_02: Cause like, again, River's the funniest person I know, and this is comedy, but it's also like you're beautiful.
34:38
SPEAKER_04: Like we're crying, we're that cho that chocolate barrel girl.
34:42
SPEAKER_02: It's not not working, honey.
34:44
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, nobody says that to me.
34:46
SPEAKER_02: I feel like I do uh every time I see you, or or I don't know if I can't.
34:51
SPEAKER_00: Check your email inbox because there's a lot coming from it.
34:53
SPEAKER_00: You're beautiful, you're beautiful, you're beautiful.
34:55
SPEAKER_04: That's all I want.
34:57
SPEAKER_04: Like I'm like, oh, why is everyone just telling me I'm talented?
35:01
SPEAKER_04: No, I love I I I I like being pretty and I like when people feel there's when people feel confused about being attracted to me.
35:11
SPEAKER_04: I've had that on both sides.
35:13
SPEAKER_00: That's cool.
35:13
SPEAKER_04: Lesbians and men.
35:15
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I kind of have that like a kernel of that with like lesbians, I think, like me because like I'm a pretty boy.
35:21
SPEAKER_02: Because you're feminine.
35:23
SPEAKER_02: For sure.
35:24
SPEAKER_02: For sure.
35:24
SPEAKER_02: Girl vibe.
35:25
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
35:27
SPEAKER_02: Um, and then I always say straight men, I feel like feel comfortable with me in like oh, they would try something because it's like I'm a wait, really?
35:37
SPEAKER_04: Has it happened?
35:37
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure in some form, but like I think straight men are like I'm sure.
35:42
SPEAKER_04: Did it?
35:44
SPEAKER_04: I'm sure that's so hot.
35:46
SPEAKER_04: Wait, and lesbians too.
35:48
SPEAKER_02: Lesbians love me because I'm pretty, but also straight men I think are comfortable with me.
35:51
SPEAKER_02: It's like a first little baby step into gay.
35:55
SPEAKER_02: Curious.
35:56
SPEAKER_02: It's even before by curiosity.
35:57
SPEAKER_02: It's like creature.
35:58
SPEAKER_02: They're like, I'm so stupid.
35:59
SPEAKER_02: Who's this them bitch?
36:02
SPEAKER_02: This is a pretty boy.
36:03
SPEAKER_02: Like, they're comfortable.
36:04
SPEAKER_02: People look a little bit around me.
36:05
SPEAKER_02: He's not having this.
36:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
36:07
SPEAKER_02: He's not having this, but I think I feel that like street men are um he's also you're like a forever twink.
36:13
SPEAKER_00: He's just as trans.
36:14
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
36:15
SPEAKER_00: I don't have I don't fall into somebody called me a like a tall twunk one time, and I was like, I don't think I'm a twink.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: I don't think I qualify as a.
36:21
SPEAKER_04: I think you're you're in the twink twunk territory.
36:24
SPEAKER_04: Am I a twunk as a boy?
36:26
SPEAKER_04: No.
36:27
SPEAKER_04: What am I?
36:27
SPEAKER_00: Well, you're you look, you read twink, but you're actually like very like built.
36:31
SPEAKER_00: You are you would be a twunk, but like you're too pretty to be I don't know.
36:35
SPEAKER_00: It's so weird.
36:36
SPEAKER_00: The categories don't make any sense, and they're not they're not.
36:37
SPEAKER_04: I think I'm in a category.
36:39
SPEAKER_02: See, I don't feel non-binary, I feel like both.
36:42
SPEAKER_02: And like that can be.
36:44
SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's the language, like fuck this shit.
36:48
SPEAKER_02: I remember when I first came out, which like you and I came out together.
36:51
SPEAKER_04: We were both straight.
36:54
SPEAKER_04: That's so funny.
36:55
SPEAKER_04: And we were both like, yeah, I think I have like dreams about being with like a women and you're in that craft pipe.
37:01
SPEAKER_04: I I think I'm in love with a guy, and we're like, yeah, let's smoke more.
37:07
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, we're like, we're gonna do it.
37:13
SPEAKER_02: Wait, what are you doing tonight?
37:15
SPEAKER_01: We have a straight wedding.
37:17
SPEAKER_01: Please.
37:19
SPEAKER_04: MAGA.
37:22
SPEAKER_04: Wait, this is good.
37:24
SPEAKER_00: MAGA would be so happy for us.
37:27
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
37:29
SPEAKER_04: We love Donald.
37:30
SPEAKER_00: Donald.
37:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I feel like this podcast has helped me sort of well inside your trans.
37:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
37:36
SPEAKER_00: Covenant actually was sort of like a bit of a gender, like, yeah.
37:38
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, well, tonight's the night.
37:40
SPEAKER_00: She is more than me.
37:42
SPEAKER_00: Coven was a bit of a gender.
37:46
SPEAKER_02: I feel he's coming out, and I'm like, everyone's trying.
37:54
SPEAKER_04: He's trying to come out.
37:56
SPEAKER_04: You can't come out.
37:57
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
37:59
SPEAKER_00: Um, I think I have like sometimes I feel like a gender tourist where I'm like, I don't know if I feel if I qualify as being non-binary.
38:06
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of stuff about masculinity that I don't like.
38:09
SPEAKER_04: There's no qualification.
38:10
SPEAKER_04: I know.
38:11
SPEAKER_00: I guess that's part of like the thing where it's like I don't feel entitled to it somehow because I'm not like embodying it correctly.
38:15
SPEAKER_04: But that's that kind of respect is usually when you're trans.
38:22
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, okay.
38:25
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: Oh I die.
38:31
SPEAKER_01: I was like, I sip cock.
38:36
SPEAKER_00: We were texting and uh we were asking, remember, do you like want anything to drink?
38:40
SPEAKER_00: And you're like, oh, like seltzer, and Andrew's like, oh, I I I sip cock while we record.
38:45
SPEAKER_04: As in sipping cocktails.
38:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:49
SPEAKER_04: You sip cock.
38:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we sip cock, you go cock question mark, exclamation point, and like um, yeah, we sip cock around here.
38:57
SPEAKER_04: But okay, on transness.
38:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
38:59
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't feel like a woman.
39:01
SPEAKER_00: I don't, and then there's third.
39:02
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I don't feel like either.
39:03
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I don't feel like here's the thing none of us are anything.
39:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
39:09
SPEAKER_04: Right?
39:10
SPEAKER_04: There is actually nothing.
39:12
SPEAKER_04: I so I think that's what gender uh the conversation around gender is actually doing.
39:18
SPEAKER_04: It's like uh there is no reason why we're divided into these two categories based on our genitals that tell you how to treat someone, how sh someone should dress, right, how they should act, blah blah blah, because there's so much variation in how we are made genetically and like in terms of personality and all this shit.
39:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, totally.
39:45
SPEAKER_04: So it's actually, I mean, what what it's I think like Lauren Berlant talks about.
39:50
SPEAKER_04: Um, I've learned this from my friend Charlie, like talks about how the division of gender is actually a eugenicist framework in order to make us procreate, but mostly to actually make a white race non-disabled, like like keep uh going.
40:13
SPEAKER_04: So we're actually part of this larger project.
40:17
SPEAKER_04: Um, and that's why gender variation or like any other form of expression can't just is yeah.
40:25
SPEAKER_04: But it's like we have normalized it uh to a point where now it's uh uh under attack, you know, in a big way.
40:35
SPEAKER_04: And it's like, wow, us just being ourselves, like us just literally like hanging out, talking shit, doing what we want, is being like, you know, people trying to stop that because they're like, oh, you're too free, you know?
40:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, exactly.
40:50
SPEAKER_04: We're in like the freest country or whatever the fuck.
40:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
40:54
SPEAKER_04: And it's like, oh, this is uh it's because you're doing something that requires us not to be free in our modes of expression.
41:03
SPEAKER_04: And yeah, I've I had friends who also have like done research in like was where did Darwin go?
41:11
SPEAKER_04: It's like that bird place.
41:12
SPEAKER_00: The Galapagos Islands, yeah, yeah.
41:14
SPEAKER_04: They that they go d there and research birds and gender shit.
41:19
SPEAKER_04: And there's a lot of birds that switch gender.
41:22
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
41:23
SPEAKER_04: After a certain time, there's a lot of you know, so like in the natural world, there's all kinds of shit going on.
41:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:29
SPEAKER_04: And guess what?
41:29
SPEAKER_04: We're a part of the natural world.
41:31
SPEAKER_04: And we are part of it.
41:33
SPEAKER_04: But it but all of this keeps kind of like being, it feels like all of I hate the word capitalism, but I'm gonna use it, is like used to make us forget about our nature or something.
41:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:47
SPEAKER_04: Like it's like you want us to just like be in the buildings dressed as a man or a woman, dressed as a bathroom sign.
41:54
SPEAKER_02: Uh okay, Halloween costume.
41:56
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
41:59
SPEAKER_02: You should be a handicapped Halloween sign.
42:00
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
42:01
SPEAKER_04: Hello, here for the bathroom.
42:03
SPEAKER_04: And they're like, this is bad.
42:06
SPEAKER_04: This is ableist.
42:07
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, yeah, yeah, it is.
42:11
SPEAKER_04: Like, this is how we dress in Philly.
42:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and then I go to MACA.
42:14
SPEAKER_04: And then I'm MAGA.
42:15
SPEAKER_04: I'm with Trump.
42:16
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, holding him by the waist.
42:18
SPEAKER_04: Actually, did it, you know the pattern?
42:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh, wait, the yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:22
SPEAKER_00: The horse cup app.
42:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
42:23
SPEAKER_04: You could match yourself with someone romantically, and they have Trump on it, and I match with him.
42:29
SPEAKER_04: And then it's uh like I put it so I could match with him, and it says, like, you guys will change each other's lives.
42:36
SPEAKER_04: So now I'm like, maybe dress like this.
42:39
SPEAKER_00: That's good for him, but bad for you, though.
42:41
SPEAKER_03: Like no, it's good for me too.
42:44
SPEAKER_00: That MAGA dick.
42:46
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the gender shit is like none of it's real.
42:49
SPEAKER_04: All of it's none of it's real dumb and fake.
42:52
SPEAKER_00: We we have known each other all for such a long time, and like everyone's grown and changed, but I always like I associate like learning about gender and sexuality and like making new friends who are all different kinds of expressions, like with creativity and like with comedy.
43:07
SPEAKER_00: And it's always so funny to me to think about like how that could be so not the case for so many other people.
43:13
SPEAKER_04: But I think it's also beautiful how we just were like attracted to each other.
43:17
SPEAKER_00: It's always the way it was.
43:19
SPEAKER_00: No, exactly.
43:20
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, that's high school friends were all same and gay.
43:23
SPEAKER_00: Same.
43:23
SPEAKER_02: The whole like lunch table.
43:24
SPEAKER_02: And we were like, la la la la la shoot.
43:26
SPEAKER_02: Why are we so close?
43:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:28
SPEAKER_02: It's like y'all gay.
43:32
SPEAKER_04: Like this is like so wild.
43:35
SPEAKER_04: That's always the case.
43:36
SPEAKER_04: Like, like we just we have some kind of not a radar, but like our a gay dar, if you will.
43:43
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
43:44
SPEAKER_04: I think attraction to people, like there's so much information actually in your attraction to people.
43:51
SPEAKER_00: That's why like I associate it with creativity, though, because it's like when you saw our videos, you were like, yes.
43:58
SPEAKER_00: And like when we saw your stand up, we were like, Yes.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: And there was just like an exchange there of like understanding, even if like we didn't fully know what it was.
44:04
SPEAKER_00: So it's just I don't know.
44:05
SPEAKER_00: It's funny to me.
44:06
SPEAKER_04: I was I guess it was like like yeah, like uh you guys are seeing the world in a similar way.
44:14
SPEAKER_04: Gina walks out, she's like, Yeah, you're like this is dumb.
44:19
SPEAKER_04: You're straight again.
44:21
SPEAKER_01: All right.
44:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like cut it off me.
44:25
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, we should make something with these characters that they're together.
44:30
SPEAKER_02: I have so many video ideas for you.
44:31
SPEAKER_04: Or like, what if it's like we're married and I'm like, yeah, my husband dresses sometimes.
44:38
SPEAKER_04: Dresses.
44:39
SPEAKER_02: You can't say, like, well, how?
44:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:41
SPEAKER_02: He dresses.
44:42
SPEAKER_02: He dresses.
44:43
SPEAKER_04: He dresses, and I'm, I love him.
44:46
SPEAKER_04: And then he has like another look.
44:48
SPEAKER_04: Or or it'd be funny if like uh she's also like a man can look like this.
44:54
SPEAKER_04: Like, what I love about Trump is that he doesn't care about the way he looks.
44:59
SPEAKER_04: Doesn't care because he looks really bad.
45:01
SPEAKER_04: And so, like, my my husband can look however he wants.
45:05
SPEAKER_04: Like, they're they're just kind of like trying, looking beautiful but not serious.
45:10
SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, it should be beautiful.
45:12
SPEAKER_04: A beautiful woman.
45:13
SPEAKER_00: Just a regular straight husband.
45:15
SPEAKER_04: You really do beautiful women so well.
45:17
SPEAKER_04: Like, why how?
45:19
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, I don't understand.
45:20
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
45:21
SPEAKER_02: I think it's a why uh genetic layout.
45:25
SPEAKER_04: Do you look like your mom?
45:26
SPEAKER_04: You were raised by women.
45:28
SPEAKER_02: I was raised by a hundred she-wolves, all Italian women, but like I look like a 50-50 split of my mom and dad.
45:33
SPEAKER_02: It's like annoying because like it's down the middle.
45:36
SPEAKER_04: Could your dad be like a girl or no?
45:38
SPEAKER_02: Probably.
45:39
SPEAKER_02: Um, no, he's pretty like mask and normal, which means he's probably trans and crazy.
45:44
SPEAKER_02: But every every every like guy, it's adding up.
45:49
SPEAKER_02: No, I always say my mom's a trans man, and if she was a man, it would be AJ McLean from the back shoot boys.
45:54
SPEAKER_02: Like with the chin strap.
45:55
SPEAKER_02: How your mom wants you to be Miami Hoochie, like would love this look.
45:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, my mom would love me to have like a lineup, like and like I don't know, it's like what blue sunglasses on and a lineup and like a fade and all that shit.
46:10
SPEAKER_04: I dressed like a guy for fun, just to piss off your face.
46:23
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they're like fully like like with the line now.
46:27
SPEAKER_04: Oh my god, that's genius.
46:30
SPEAKER_04: And they were like, Why did you do that?
46:33
SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
46:33
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
46:34
SPEAKER_04: And now I'm like, now I know I have all these memories of like me wearing my dad's shoes, like putting them on them being so big, and me being like, and then getting like foot fungus after because like he had fungus, and I was like, oh no, and then also memories of-that's very male, also memories of me being like, like I would see him basically like everything he did.
46:56
SPEAKER_04: Instead of following what your mom did, I was like, Oh, my dad is like gelling his hair, and he's like doing that.
47:03
SPEAKER_04: So I'm I was like, Oh, I'll shave.
47:06
SPEAKER_04: So then when I shaved my face, I like cut it, and I was like, Oh no! And then like instead, instead of putting gel or mousse in my hair, I put on by mistake a shaving cream in my hair.
47:19
SPEAKER_04: And I was like just trying to be him so bad.
47:22
SPEAKER_04: That's cute.
47:22
SPEAKER_04: But it I never registered in my head that I was like trying to be a guy.
47:28
SPEAKER_04: I was just like, oh, that is what I but so it always it has been like I've been looking at what dudes are doing in a space, and I'm like, oh, I'm I should do that.
47:40
SPEAKER_04: And then when I would do it, people would be like, Why are you doing that?
47:43
SPEAKER_04: And I'd be like, I'm not understanding.
47:47
unknown: Hold on.
47:49
SPEAKER_04: Hold on, I don't get it.
47:52
SPEAKER_00: Now you do.
47:52
SPEAKER_00: You're like, oh.
47:56
SPEAKER_04: So I I just didn't, yeah.
47:57
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, I don't understand the woman stuff.
48:01
SPEAKER_04: Like when I do this, I think it's like funny because I'm like, oh, this is like funny to me.
48:07
SPEAKER_04: Uh it's a drag.
48:09
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's like a performer.
48:11
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, oh, this is fake.
48:13
SPEAKER_04: This is fake.
48:14
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's that's what I was gonna say.
48:16
SPEAKER_00: Like, every every man, cis man who like claims to not understand gender expression or like more than two genders, it's like my dad hears us, he's gonna be annoyed, but it's like he has a mustache.
48:28
SPEAKER_00: Did he listen?
48:28
SPEAKER_00: And I uh no, but like sometimes my sister will like tell him stuff.
48:31
SPEAKER_00: That's how he found out that I said, like, what if my dad met Ice Spice?
48:34
SPEAKER_00: Um my dad has a mustache and it's like he has never shaved his mustache the entire my entire life.
48:42
SPEAKER_00: 35 years he has had a mustache, and it's like, dad, shave your mustache, and he's like, No, it's like that's your gender affirming expression.
48:50
SPEAKER_00: It's like if someone forced you to shave your mustache, you would be fucking pissed and annoyed and embarrassed and feel weird.
48:56
SPEAKER_00: It's like that's because it's something that is of your gender that feels good.
49:01
SPEAKER_00: You're a part of it too.
49:02
SPEAKER_00: You're you're on this gender spectrum.
49:04
SPEAKER_00: That's just the way you're doing it.
49:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you do be looking good with that mustache.
49:08
SPEAKER_04: I hate I would never wear a mustache.
49:10
SPEAKER_02: I've drawn it on and I'm like disgusting.
49:14
SPEAKER_02: When I'm not doing drag, I feel like I do like a mustache.
49:17
SPEAKER_04: If I was a like sis guy, I'd be a clean shaven, sisy ass looking cis guy.
49:24
SPEAKER_04: I would not be like a hairy dude.
49:27
SPEAKER_04: I'd be bi.
49:28
SPEAKER_04: I'd be a bi.
49:30
SPEAKER_04: Are you still bi now, Kaida?
49:31
SPEAKER_02: If you don't mind me asking, I would say Kaina, cosmically.
49:34
SPEAKER_04: Like I feel like it's a vibe.
49:36
SPEAKER_00: Everyone winds up being bi on this couch.
49:38
SPEAKER_00: Literally.
49:39
SPEAKER_04: I think it's a vibe.
49:40
SPEAKER_04: I think like I'm like, I'm not attracted to everybody.
49:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:43
SPEAKER_04: Like regardless of gender.
49:45
SPEAKER_04: I would say like I'm less attracted to men.
49:49
SPEAKER_04: Men most of the time.
49:51
SPEAKER_04: I think they're pretty until they say stuff.
49:55
SPEAKER_04: Like I I feel like literally, like, I feel like I'm a man the way that I think.
50:01
SPEAKER_04: So like how I look at men is how I they look at women.
50:04
SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, oh, pretty, but like shut the fuck up.
50:07
SPEAKER_04: Like you're so stupid.
50:08
SPEAKER_04: And then I see when women are like I'm like women for me.
50:13
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, oh my god, like this is incredible.
50:17
SPEAKER_04: Some, and then some I'm like nasty as a bitch.
50:21
SPEAKER_04: So I'm like, and then like non-binary trans people.
50:25
SPEAKER_04: I uh I'm like, oh, you're so hot, but you're gonna hurt me because you guys are crazy.
50:32
SPEAKER_04: We're crazy to do this.
50:34
SPEAKER_02: What's the non-binary for both?
50:36
SPEAKER_02: Uh gender, bigender?
50:38
SPEAKER_02: Bigender.
50:39
SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
50:40
SPEAKER_04: I'm non-binary and I feel like both.
50:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
50:42
SPEAKER_02: I remember Peter Smith, friend of the pod, blue guest from season one.
50:46
SPEAKER_02: Um, sort of was like, I feel like neither.
50:48
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, oh, I don't feel that way.
50:50
SPEAKER_02: Because I do feel strongly like both.
50:52
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
50:53
SPEAKER_02: I have this masculine side of me, I have this feminine side of me.
50:56
SPEAKER_04: I feel like both and neither.
50:58
SPEAKER_02: See, I don't, yeah.
50:59
SPEAKER_04: I feel like very middle, and then I'm like, I know I can play these two sides, but I know, yeah, like my feminine side is easier to play, and then I have a boyish it's more like yeah, I had this weird dream that was like about a really sexy woman and a little boy, and they were melding, and I'm like, that's exactly how I feel.
51:24
SPEAKER_04: Like I am a sexy woman and a boy together, and whatever that is, like I'm like, that's the vibe.
51:33
SPEAKER_02: I slide you my number.
51:35
SPEAKER_02: I have it already.
51:38
SPEAKER_02: Not that number one.
51:38
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, hi and my Chan's number.
51:42
SPEAKER_00: It's a beeper.
51:43
SPEAKER_00: It's a beeper.
51:43
SPEAKER_00: They give you a new one when you transition.
51:45
SPEAKER_04: You get a bee pill from Net and Yahoo.
51:49
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I told you that you call me here.
51:51
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I just wanted to say Peter Smith was our our first solo guest.
51:55
SPEAKER_04: Peter Smith is so beautiful, beautiful funny tale.
51:58
SPEAKER_02: Another vertical, but you're our second solo guest, so it's uh Aaron Markey, who's yet to come on the pod, but a friend of the pod.
52:07
SPEAKER_02: I love Aaron.
52:08
SPEAKER_02: We love Aaron.
52:10
SPEAKER_02: The way when they came out as non-binary, they sort of broke down the word, uh, the origin of the word or like the root of it being in transit.
52:18
SPEAKER_02: And it was sort of interesting to me because I had never heard anyone talk about it in that way.
52:22
SPEAKER_02: And just me, based on my personality and just everything I've you know kind of come to accept is that my personality is a pendulum.
52:28
SPEAKER_02: I switch no matter what.
52:30
SPEAKER_02: I I like change my mind in a way that sort of is always in motion, in that I will never make a damn decision.
52:38
SPEAKER_04: But also, it's like nah but you know what I mean?
52:41
SPEAKER_04: And I'm not just saying that.
52:42
SPEAKER_04: It's like in in life in general, like we're going from being a baby to like an ad and then like decaying, like we're always changing our organism to actually put any like strong label on it is fake.
52:58
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's not real.
52:59
SPEAKER_04: Like what we're going through is like we're traveling through space within a body for now, and then we keep traveling as something else.
53:10
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
53:10
SPEAKER_04: Like that, why even put a fucking marker on this?
53:15
SPEAKER_04: And it just it's so stupid.
53:18
SPEAKER_04: I I also see it as like a spirit, like I'm very spiritual, and I'm like, I really feel like I'm in here, and I had no choice about what's outside, I have no choice about how that's treated, and I have no choice about how that's seen, but I'm in here, and I've redefined what this type of body means in the world just from my will.
53:40
SPEAKER_04: So I'm like, well, I know that now I know my will is stronger than how I'm perceived, or how people think I should be perceived, or something.
53:49
SPEAKER_04: And so much before I was like picked non-binary or whatever the fuck.
53:54
SPEAKER_04: People were like, would be like, you're like kind of androgynous.
53:58
SPEAKER_04: Like there's something like, or like I used to hang out, well, I still hang out with guys, but like I'm a guy because I'm a guy.
54:03
SPEAKER_04: You're a guy's guy.
54:04
SPEAKER_04: Um people could really see me would be like, I feel like I'm not hanging out with a girl.
54:11
SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, I know what you're getting at.
54:15
SPEAKER_00: You're like, you're almost spoiler.
54:17
SPEAKER_02: I'm not spoiling, you let you a kid, dude.
54:26
SPEAKER_02: You kind of get breaking me shoehorning in like the pendulum of trans.
54:30
SPEAKER_00: The competition's amazing.
54:31
SPEAKER_04: I know.
54:32
SPEAKER_04: But I but I do love uh lately in my trans journey, I think especially with like Trump stuff happening.
54:39
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, there is a weird, I feel like trans women get it the most, where it's like, why you why is you being beautiful and feminine and embracing like your curves and all this beauty um so damaging to society?
54:56
SPEAKER_04: It's like there is a a war against like femininity.
55:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
55:02
SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, oh, I've been given this.
55:04
SPEAKER_04: Like for me right now, it feels I'm like, I'm still non-binary.
55:09
SPEAKER_04: I stand by that.
55:11
SPEAKER_04: Who knows if it'll change?
55:12
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, whatever, things change.
55:14
SPEAKER_04: Um, but also like I want to embrace this body that has actually made me feel so trapped and so uh scared.
55:26
SPEAKER_04: Like it's like very fear because I've only been like uh objectified, like through it and not seen as like who I am.
55:34
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
55:35
SPEAKER_04: But now I'm like, you know what?
55:36
SPEAKER_04: Fuck you.
55:37
SPEAKER_04: Like non-binary.
55:40
SPEAKER_04: I can redefine what this is.
55:42
SPEAKER_04: This is not a woman.
55:44
SPEAKER_00: Right.
55:45
SPEAKER_00: Um, this it's yours, just me.
55:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so you can use it how you want to.
55:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
55:49
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, this is mine, so I will now use it.
55:52
SPEAKER_00: You're like, these pants are mine now, too.
55:54
SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm like the windows.
55:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they are all in the back of the back, are they?
56:00
SPEAKER_02: Your pants are never coming back.
56:05
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so let's take a break and we'll be right back.
56:07
SPEAKER_02: Let's take a break.
56:16
SPEAKER_02: Um, I loved you, Reese.
56:18
SPEAKER_02: Are we recording?
56:20
SPEAKER_02: Make sure this is on.
56:22
SPEAKER_02: No, I love your oyster.
56:24
SPEAKER_02: Your flash tats are so beautiful.
56:27
SPEAKER_02: Sarah, my ex, I kinda wants to get an oyster from you.
56:30
SPEAKER_02: Sarah wants an oyster from you.
56:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
56:32
SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
56:33
SPEAKER_02: And Sarah.
56:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
56:34
SPEAKER_02: They're beautiful.
56:36
SPEAKER_02: We should get a half an oyster that like enjoys.
56:39
SPEAKER_02: We should both get oysters.
56:41
SPEAKER_02: That'd be.
56:42
unknown: That's so cute.
56:43
unknown: Your relationship is so cute.
56:44
SPEAKER_00: It's very admirable.
56:45
SPEAKER_00: I really, I really respect the way you guys have been able to like.
56:48
SPEAKER_00: So beautiful.
56:48
SPEAKER_00: Well, we love each other for sure.
56:50
SPEAKER_00: It's really love each other.
56:52
SPEAKER_02: We do.
56:52
SPEAKER_02: It's awesome.
56:54
SPEAKER_02: We both feel lucky.
56:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's very unconditional.
56:56
SPEAKER_02: Because like we were happy and like our we had a good sex life, like it worked, but I just felt like I was holding myself back.
57:04
SPEAKER_02: Because I had this queer muscle that was just collecting dust.
57:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't hold myself back anymore, which is cool.
57:10
SPEAKER_02: And I still get to have a relationship with her, which is cool.
57:13
SPEAKER_02: So I feel lucky.
57:14
unknown: Yeah.
57:14
SPEAKER_02: You know, because that's not guaranteed.
57:16
SPEAKER_02: And it's a testament to like what we had.
57:19
SPEAKER_02: So there's a little like sadness there, but ultimately it's beautiful.
57:22
SPEAKER_02: Cause like we were closer in a way.
57:24
SPEAKER_04: I think that we're doing this for the mic.
57:27
SPEAKER_04: Oh no.
57:28
SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
57:29
SPEAKER_02: I've had like very strong loves of my life.
57:31
SPEAKER_02: So I don't know if it will, I'm sure it will come again, but I'm like, I'm not looking because of that.
57:35
SPEAKER_02: Like, I I've had great relationships, and I'm like, it needs to be correct for me to like want to get into like something serious until it gets dark and weird.
57:45
SPEAKER_02: I'm 80.
57:46
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I don't need any of this.
57:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm still in this look.
57:51
SPEAKER_02: We're like, okay, Nana.
57:53
SPEAKER_02: It's just this exact look about a gray streak.
57:57
SPEAKER_00: Yes, they got the hairline reventilated.
58:02
SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, should we uh should we play a game?
58:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so so And we're back.
58:07
SPEAKER_00: And we're back.
58:08
SPEAKER_00: The game's called label whores, right?
58:09
SPEAKER_00: Do you have some?
58:10
SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
58:11
SPEAKER_00: I thought we were just all kind of improvising.
58:12
SPEAKER_00: I saw humans.
58:13
SPEAKER_00: Pulled out the paddle.
58:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
58:16
SPEAKER_00: You you need some alone time with that.
58:18
SPEAKER_03: Oh, ow.
58:19
SPEAKER_03: Whoa.
58:22
SPEAKER_02: That's how we chop the pillows around here.
58:27
SPEAKER_01: Madden!
58:28
SPEAKER_02: Madden takes the whole set down.
58:31
SPEAKER_02: Madam realized she's been a little pent up.
58:36
SPEAKER_02: I want to see, I want to see Madden at the Madden cages.
58:39
SPEAKER_04: This is Madden BDSM.
58:42
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
58:44
SPEAKER_02: Madden.
58:46
SPEAKER_04: Whenever I've done a hyper feminine look, people are always like, step on me.
58:50
SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, this is what is this what you mean?
58:52
SPEAKER_04: Step on my exactly.
58:54
SPEAKER_01: I know.
58:54
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, okay, hit people.
58:57
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, honey, don't pop.
59:01
SPEAKER_01: Don't pop my tongue.
59:03
SPEAKER_02: Not the chandelier.
59:05
SPEAKER_01: Don't pop my tongue.
59:07
SPEAKER_00: Every single thing.
59:09
SPEAKER_00: Not a square left.
59:11
SPEAKER_00: Um, anyways, so the game's called Label Whores, wherein we uh choose a person place thing or idea and assign it a letter from the LGBTQI.
59:20
SPEAKER_00: You better have a canon of shit.
59:22
SPEAKER_00: Because I didn't know you I didn't know she was pulling out the paddles.
59:25
SPEAKER_00: I was like, It's season two, maybe it's time for paddles.
59:27
SPEAKER_00: We haven't done it yet.
59:28
SPEAKER_00: Um, so in the past, uh we've said uh Twizzlers are by are by.
59:33
SPEAKER_00: Twizzlers pull and peel are trans, jet skis are lesbian, things like that.
59:37
SPEAKER_00: I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready.
59:38
SPEAKER_02: Madden with a paddle.
59:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Madden.
59:40
SPEAKER_02: This is good.
59:40
SPEAKER_02: Actually, Madam with a paddle is everything I need.
59:43
SPEAKER_04: You know, I try not to judge people, only Jesus could judge people.
59:47
SPEAKER_04: But like, yeah, rainbows for me mean something else.
59:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, rainbows mean the covenant of God, covenant with God.
59:53
SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, it doesn't mean like gay to me.
59:56
SPEAKER_04: It means more like I appreciate what the earth has to give.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_04: Like when after it ran.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_02: Colored colored.
1:00:03
SPEAKER_04: I have a couple on my list.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_02: Let's do it.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_00: All right, restaurant leftovers.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_00: Restaurant leftovers.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, I put B for buy.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_02: I didn't write mine down yet.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_02: Leftovers?
1:00:16
SPEAKER_00: I said lesbian.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_02: Restaurant leftovers are lesbian.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_02: Because it's like, I don't know.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_02: Practical.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_04: It's not practical.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_04: You can't, it's hard to get one.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_04: To get a lesbian?
1:00:30
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_04: It's hard.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_00: Restaurant leftovers are lesbian, I think.
1:00:34
SPEAKER_00: I put buy because it's like why are they buy?
1:00:36
SPEAKER_00: Wants to be more than one thing.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_04: I put poly because someone's already had it.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_04: And then you're like, I'm gonna take it home.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_04: Nasty.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_02: See, lesbian, I'm like, well, let's ration the uh the serving.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_00: No, very lesbian.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just a warm-up, it's just a warm-up.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_00: But I think poly poly makes sense.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_04: Okay, moving on.
1:00:59
SPEAKER_00: First class seats.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_00: Like flying first class.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_00: Come again.
1:01:03
SPEAKER_00: The experience of being in first class.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_00: I always need a cheat sheet with like LGBT.
1:01:08
SPEAKER_02: LGBT.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, easy.
1:01:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:01:14
SPEAKER_02: They do it um everything for first class.
1:01:16
SPEAKER_04: It's first class.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, but lesbians aren't practical.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like dirty in the dump, like a truck.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_04: Gay guys, first class Dubai.
1:01:26
SPEAKER_00: Dubai, Dubai, yeah.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_00: Like Dubai, gay guys are Dubai.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_00: Gay guys, Diamonds Dubai, Audrey Hepburn.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_00: That's gay.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_00: That's gay.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_04: That's gay.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_00: Gay guys are Dubai for sure.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_04: No, gay guys got it.
1:01:38
SPEAKER_04: Oh, like I wish.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_02: You could.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_02: You are.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_02: You could.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_02: You could.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_04: No, but uh, you know I'm not.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_04: You guys got a different thing going on.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_02: Uh postmodern.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_02: Postmodern?
1:01:50
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:01:51
SPEAKER_02: Or like the idea of the thing.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, postmodernism.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_04: I think it's trans.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_02: I think it might be trans.
1:01:56
SPEAKER_04: Because they're thinking.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're in on the joke.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_04: They're thinking.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_04: They're thinking about things.
1:02:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_02: There's commentary there.
1:02:05
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_04: They understand history thinking.
1:02:08
SPEAKER_04: They're evolving.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_04: Right, right, right.
1:02:10
SPEAKER_04: Postmodernism as a subsect of modernism.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_00: It's a conversation.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_00: It's a conversation.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, totally, totally, totally.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:02:17
SPEAKER_00: T.
1:02:17
SPEAKER_00: T.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_00: T.
1:02:19
SPEAKER_00: T mama.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_04: T mama.
1:02:22
SPEAKER_04: Postmodernism runs mama.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_02: Postmodernism.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_04: You're just going with what you feel.
1:02:29
SPEAKER_04: Postmodern.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_02: That's postmodern.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_04: That's postmodern.
1:02:32
SPEAKER_04: Being trans is postmodern.
1:02:34
SPEAKER_02: The movie Enough with JLo.
1:02:36
unknown: Ooh.
1:02:37
SPEAKER_02: Ooh.
1:02:38
SPEAKER_00: Ooh.
1:02:39
SPEAKER_00: Ooh, that's tough.
1:02:41
SPEAKER_00: That's tough.
1:02:44
SPEAKER_04: I think it's lesbian.
1:02:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:02:50
SPEAKER_00: I feel like it's P for Pan.
1:02:56
SPEAKER_00: Because my gut says it's gay and my gut says it's trans, but I feel like it's covering.
1:03:01
SPEAKER_04: I feel that.
1:03:02
SPEAKER_04: Because she kind of looks like a guy.
1:03:04
SPEAKER_00: She transforms.
1:03:05
SPEAKER_00: She's but it's still J-Lo.
1:03:06
SPEAKER_00: But it's J-Lo.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_00: She's masked.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_00: She's masked, but she's also like, she's still like a mother, you know.
1:03:12
SPEAKER_00: She's she's it's giving J J-Lo in enough is everything.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:03:16
SPEAKER_00: For everyone.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_02: I think I have an incredible answer.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_02: I think it's bi because I was gonna say it's lesbian and that's like female embarrassment, but then I'm like, it's gay and that it's like canon, and like, you know, and then I'm like, well, there's something for everyone here.
1:03:29
SPEAKER_02: So maybe it's bi.
1:03:31
SPEAKER_00: But but what about trans?
1:03:32
SPEAKER_00: What do you mean?
1:03:33
SPEAKER_00: I guess you can be by bi and trans.
1:03:34
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
1:03:34
SPEAKER_00: I feel like Psyche.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_04: Oh, it might be because she cuts her hair.
1:03:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but there's something very like hetero about the movie.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_02: There is something hetero.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
1:03:43
SPEAKER_04: That's why we're on the yeah.
1:03:45
SPEAKER_02: And that's why I'm like a little bit of both.
1:03:47
SPEAKER_02: I think I could go with B.
1:03:48
SPEAKER_02: I could go with P.
1:03:49
SPEAKER_02: We don't need to agree.
1:03:50
SPEAKER_04: Actually, I'd go with P.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_02: Pan?
1:03:52
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'd go with Pan.
1:03:54
SPEAKER_02: See, that sounds almost too cool for that movie.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_04: So you're like, it's a confused trans person in a bi movie.
1:04:00
unknown: Yeah.
1:04:01
SPEAKER_02: No, it's B for bi in that it's like a little basic in that as someone I I'm bi.
1:04:06
SPEAKER_02: I'm bi, you know.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_02: Bye for bi sick.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_04: We're all bi.
1:04:12
SPEAKER_04: Our four bi fans.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_04: Wait, everyone else was by who came on the show?
1:04:16
SPEAKER_00: Kinda.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_00: A lot of bi.
1:04:17
SPEAKER_00: Who else is by?
1:04:18
SPEAKER_00: Um I I don't know.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's just drone's not by.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_04: Drone's not by.
1:04:24
SPEAKER_04: No.
1:04:24
SPEAKER_04: Drone's gay.
1:04:27
SPEAKER_00: Drone loves dick.
1:04:31
SPEAKER_00: Loves dick.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_00: Not one person.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_00: I guess it's just us, actually.
1:04:36
SPEAKER_00: It's just us.
1:04:37
SPEAKER_04: People always ask me what I like.
1:04:40
SPEAKER_04: They're like, oh, but are you this?
1:04:42
SPEAKER_04: Or they have an assumption, and I'm like, I literally don't know.
1:04:48
SPEAKER_00: Like done how to tell you.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_00: So that's probably Pan.
1:04:52
SPEAKER_04: I don't like saying pan.
1:04:53
SPEAKER_04: Somebody was like, oh, pan usually means chaser.
1:04:57
SPEAKER_04: And I was like, oh no, no, no.
1:04:58
SPEAKER_04: Really?
1:04:59
SPEAKER_04: So I guess like by really, I feel I feel just like gay in every way.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_04: Like I'm like, if I like a guy, it's in a gay way.
1:05:10
SPEAKER_04: If I like a girl, it's in a gay way.
1:05:12
SPEAKER_04: If I like a non-binary trans person, it's gay.
1:05:15
SPEAKER_04: Like I just feel like I'm gay.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_04: Like it's like I could never be, I can never be straight.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, when I think about like my straight relationships, I'm like, they were gay.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_04: So or people thought I was like just living with my gay best friend.
1:05:34
SPEAKER_04: So I'm like, okay, so people, you know.
1:05:37
SPEAKER_02: My relationship was queer.
1:05:38
SPEAKER_02: For starters, our height difference alone was enough to get us on the spectrum.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_04: You had like like every gay guy's dream.
1:05:48
SPEAKER_04: A big lady.
1:05:49
unknown: Yeah.
1:05:51
SPEAKER_04: Big lady.
1:05:52
SPEAKER_04: My big spirit is huge.
1:05:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:05:55
SPEAKER_04: My doll is the big doll.
1:05:56
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:05:58
SPEAKER_02: And now I am the doll, honey.
1:05:59
SPEAKER_02: And now you
1:06:00
SPEAKER_04: You are the doll.
1:06:01
SPEAKER_04: I think it's so beautiful.
1:06:03
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
1:06:04
SPEAKER_02: Is she queer at all?
1:06:06
SPEAKER_02: She is.
1:06:06
SPEAKER_02: She's queer in general.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_02: Queer adjacent.
1:06:09
SPEAKER_02: I think she's she's sort of like open to it, but like can't find like a woman to like date.
1:06:16
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of things.
1:06:16
SPEAKER_02: I think she like loves Dick, but like is queer.
1:06:20
SPEAKER_02: She's a slave for the cock, is what I'm saying.
1:06:23
SPEAKER_02: But um don't put that.
1:06:29
SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's going in.
1:06:30
SPEAKER_04: Oh, she's a slave for the cock.
1:06:32
SPEAKER_02: How do I put that?
1:06:33
SPEAKER_02: She's a slave for the cock.
1:06:34
SPEAKER_04: Well, I mean, like, there's ladies with cocks.
1:06:36
SPEAKER_02: Totally.
1:06:37
SPEAKER_02: I think she should peg someone.
1:06:38
SPEAKER_02: I think that would be in her um It's my dream to peg someone.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_02: You should.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_02: I guess I'm very cool.
1:06:44
SPEAKER_02: That's hot.
1:06:44
SPEAKER_04: I guess I have before.
1:06:46
SPEAKER_04: Really?
1:06:46
SPEAKER_04: With my hands.
1:06:47
SPEAKER_02: But we need you strapped up.
1:06:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:06:49
SPEAKER_04: I've never done that.
1:06:50
SPEAKER_02: You need some gear.
1:06:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:06:52
SPEAKER_04: But I'm like, I've been kind of sizing a bit.
1:06:55
SPEAKER_04: I have this obsession right now with having a bi boyfriend.
1:06:58
SPEAKER_00: That's hot.
1:06:59
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, what would that be like?
1:07:01
SPEAKER_04: But they it would have to be like, yeah, like why is it hotter to be bi?
1:07:06
SPEAKER_00: Like, because you're open-minded.
1:07:09
SPEAKER_02: Because you're just like, and so maybe secure enough.
1:07:12
SPEAKER_02: But it gets stressful.
1:07:13
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't know.
1:07:14
SPEAKER_04: People want to put you in a category.
1:07:17
SPEAKER_04: I feel like I don't know.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, I don't fucking know.
1:07:20
SPEAKER_04: I'm just out here.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_04: I don't know who I am.
1:07:23
SPEAKER_04: Like, hello?
1:07:24
SPEAKER_04: I just like, yeah.
1:07:25
SPEAKER_04: Hello?
1:07:26
SPEAKER_04: I just like, I'm like, if there's a vibe, if there's a vibe, and you can't help it, so why put a thing on it?
1:07:35
SPEAKER_02: T.
1:07:36
SPEAKER_04: T.
1:07:36
SPEAKER_02: Wait, I have T.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_02: I raised a paddle that the movie motocrossed.
1:07:40
SPEAKER_02: That's trans.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_02: That's trans.
1:07:42
SPEAKER_02: That's trans.
1:07:42
SPEAKER_02: That's trans.
1:07:42
SPEAKER_02: That's trans.
1:07:43
SPEAKER_02: Wait, I love it, not to make it back about motocross, but I love that her like version of like being her twin brother is for whatever reason, like, was just a face of foundation, like all over the lips.
1:07:53
SPEAKER_02: Like that was her masculine look.
1:07:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:07:56
SPEAKER_02: It was just like one color of foundation all over her face.
1:07:58
SPEAKER_02: It's like the lips.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_02: You're not well.
1:08:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like, dude, are you okay?
1:08:01
SPEAKER_02: One color.
1:08:02
SPEAKER_02: And they're like, oh, you're a boy now.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_02: You're a dude.
1:08:05
SPEAKER_04: Like mad.
1:08:07
SPEAKER_02: What a movie.
1:08:08
SPEAKER_04: It's so funny.
1:08:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:08:10
SPEAKER_02: Those Dizzy movies.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_04: Oh, trans everything.
1:08:13
SPEAKER_04: Trans is so normal.
1:08:14
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:08:15
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, actually, everyone before they like before you have to perform.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_04: Because it's like the performance gender.
1:08:23
SPEAKER_04: So before you have to perform, I'm like kids before teens, preteen?
1:08:29
SPEAKER_04: Trance.
1:08:29
SPEAKER_04: Butter tits?
1:08:30
SPEAKER_04: Everyone's got like the same body?
1:08:32
SPEAKER_00: Did you say butter tits?
1:08:33
SPEAKER_04: Butter tits.
1:08:34
SPEAKER_04: When you have butter tits as a kid.
1:08:36
SPEAKER_04: What are butter tits?
1:08:37
SPEAKER_04: When you it's like tits that aren't really.
1:08:39
SPEAKER_00: Is that what that's called?
1:08:40
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
1:08:41
SPEAKER_00: Butter tits.
1:08:42
SPEAKER_00: I know we're like.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_04: But there's only a limited amount of time of being a man or woman.
1:08:47
SPEAKER_00: And right, because when you get old, you you degenderify.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_00: You just become older than a few.
1:08:52
SPEAKER_04: Everyone looks the same.
1:08:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:08:55
SPEAKER_00: We need to get your teeth active.
1:08:59
SPEAKER_00: Okay, what about scaring people?
1:09:01
SPEAKER_00: Like that's the straightest thing of all time.
1:09:03
SPEAKER_02: But we could try.
1:09:04
SPEAKER_02: I'll see what I can do.
1:09:06
SPEAKER_02: Scaring people.
1:09:07
SPEAKER_00: Like jumping out from behind something.
1:09:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go B because it's closest to straight for me.
1:09:14
SPEAKER_02: Because I think scaring people is so straight.
1:09:16
SPEAKER_02: Like pranks are so straight.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_02: So B It's not lesbian.
1:09:20
SPEAKER_04: It's not it's not gay.
1:09:23
SPEAKER_02: It's not trans.
1:09:25
SPEAKER_04: It's not trans.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_02: It's B.
1:09:27
SPEAKER_02: B in like a performative way.
1:09:30
SPEAKER_02: Performative bisexual.
1:09:31
SPEAKER_04: Intersex though.
1:09:33
SPEAKER_02: It's intersex.
1:09:34
SPEAKER_02: Scaring people is intersex.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_04: No, because people are like wait, what?
1:09:41
SPEAKER_04: Wait, ah, yeah, yeah, I guess you're there.
1:09:45
SPEAKER_04: I scared now.
1:09:46
SPEAKER_04: You know, like the conversation of gender that people always forget intersex.
1:09:51
SPEAKER_04: They're like, and it's like it's it's the beginning of time.
1:09:54
SPEAKER_00: People like what truly, okay.
1:09:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
1:09:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:09:58
SPEAKER_02: That works.
1:09:59
SPEAKER_04: And they're still fighting for people not to be scared.
1:10:02
SPEAKER_02: Scraps.
1:10:02
SPEAKER_02: River, do you have any?
1:10:04
SPEAKER_02: Or Madden?
1:10:04
SPEAKER_02: Does Madden have any questions?
1:10:06
SPEAKER_02: We could raise a battle.
1:10:09
SPEAKER_04: When your boyfriend is adamant about cooking for like the football game.
1:10:17
SPEAKER_00: Oof.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_00: When a man wants to cook.
1:10:19
SPEAKER_04: When a man wants to cook and doesn't want you to help.
1:10:23
SPEAKER_04: Oh, I know.
1:10:24
SPEAKER_04: What is that?
1:10:25
SPEAKER_04: That is like gay.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_04: That is lesbian.
1:10:30
SPEAKER_02: Lesbian.
1:10:31
SPEAKER_04: So like I'm with a lesbian.
1:10:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:10:33
SPEAKER_02: Man in the kitchen is so lesbian in a hot way.
1:10:36
SPEAKER_04: But man, but I would love to be with a lesbian man.
1:10:40
SPEAKER_04: You know, like a man that feels like like there's a woman inside.
1:10:44
SPEAKER_00: Wait, there was a character on the L word.
1:10:48
SPEAKER_00: There's a character on the L-word.
1:10:50
SPEAKER_00: Like, we leave.
1:10:52
SPEAKER_00: We're like, who was he view?
1:10:54
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, bye.
1:10:55
SPEAKER_00: Uh no, there's a character on the L word who was a male-identified lesbian.
1:10:58
SPEAKER_00: There was a few episodes where like one of the lesbians was dating just a guy, and he is, and he was like, I'm not sure.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_00: I remember, I remember a lesbian.
1:11:04
SPEAKER_04: And everyone was like, well, he says he's a lesbian.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_04: No, there are dudes that feel like girl, like it's like you're a girl.
1:11:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:11:12
SPEAKER_00: But is that they're just trans and haven't come out yet?
1:11:16
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
1:11:16
SPEAKER_04: I feel like it's a spirit.
1:11:18
SPEAKER_04: It's a spirit.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_04: Spiritual.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I would love like they're hard to come by.
1:11:24
SPEAKER_02: You have a little bit of lesbians.
1:11:25
SPEAKER_02: We both have a little lesbian energy.
1:11:26
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you guys are lesbians.
1:11:27
SPEAKER_00: For sure.
1:11:28
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:11:28
SPEAKER_00: But but not letting someone into the kitchen or not letting someone help you cook is lesbian.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_00: I I I don't know why.
1:11:34
SPEAKER_04: It's just like I take care of that.
1:11:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
1:11:37
SPEAKER_00: Or like I'm the caretaker.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_00: It's you, but it's caretaker at all, but also it's like, don't get in my way.
1:11:42
SPEAKER_00: Like, it's like, this is mine.
1:11:43
SPEAKER_00: This is my world.
1:11:44
SPEAKER_00: Like, but also I got you, but don't come in.
1:11:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:11:47
SPEAKER_00: But also don't scratch the granite.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_00: It's like there's a high level of like technical ability in the world.
1:11:53
SPEAKER_02: I have that FKA twig song, like when a girl feels like You know what I who I'm obsessed with?
1:11:57
SPEAKER_04: I am obsessed with like trans lesbians.
1:12:00
SPEAKER_02: Just like I love a trans gay guy.
1:12:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:12:03
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
1:12:05
SPEAKER_04: I'm the I love a trans lesbian.
1:12:07
SPEAKER_04: My um I'm like, I'm like, I think it's the hottest thing.
1:12:10
SPEAKER_04: I'm like he's trans, and I'm like, be gay.
1:12:13
SPEAKER_02: Really?
1:12:13
SPEAKER_02: It'd be so cool if you'd be gay.
1:12:17
SPEAKER_02: He's like, he's like still.
1:12:19
SPEAKER_04: He's like, I guess who I am.
1:12:21
SPEAKER_04: Be gay.
1:12:23
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like I didn't know that was like a thing, like a butch trans lesbian.
1:12:29
SPEAKER_02: No, it happens all the time, I think, right?
1:12:30
SPEAKER_02: I think it's so good.
1:12:31
SPEAKER_02: I think it's pretty common, yeah.
1:12:32
SPEAKER_02: Because a lot of times it's so fun.
1:12:35
SPEAKER_02: It's so fun.
1:12:35
SPEAKER_02: That's why I'm like, be gay.
1:12:36
SPEAKER_02: It'd be so fun if you were mass gay.
1:12:39
SPEAKER_04: Everything is great when it's gay.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, it's also so like I transitioned and not for the male gays.
1:12:47
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, no, I love it.
1:12:49
SPEAKER_04: It's incredi.
1:12:51
SPEAKER_04: Goddess.
1:12:52
SPEAKER_02: When a trans person's gay, like either way, I'm like a trans guy who was straight.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, fuck you, man.
1:12:59
SPEAKER_04: I hate this.
1:13:04
SPEAKER_01: I hate you.
1:13:05
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:13:06
SPEAKER_04: Uh my brother.
1:13:08
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, oh my god.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_01: I thought gay.
1:13:13
SPEAKER_04: Gabby.
1:13:14
SPEAKER_04: Agave.
1:13:15
SPEAKER_04: Agave.
1:13:16
SPEAKER_04: Agave.
1:13:17
SPEAKER_04: Agave.
1:13:18
SPEAKER_04: No, I was like, okay, everything's fucked up.
1:13:21
SPEAKER_04: People are straight?
1:13:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:13:23
SPEAKER_04: When gay people are straight, I I can't.
1:13:25
SPEAKER_02: I don't either.
1:13:26
SPEAKER_02: It's like when trans people are straight, kinda.
1:13:29
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I get it.
1:13:29
SPEAKER_02: They're like, you know, that's part of your identity.
1:13:31
SPEAKER_04: But I'm like, I get it.
1:13:33
SPEAKER_04: But I'm also like, you're queer.
1:13:34
SPEAKER_02: Queer.
1:13:35
SPEAKER_02: Come on, really.
1:13:36
SPEAKER_02: Really?
1:13:36
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, can I have you?
1:13:38
SPEAKER_04: It's really ultimately like Can I keep you?
1:13:41
SPEAKER_02: Can I have you?
1:13:42
SPEAKER_04: What do you mean I can't have you?
1:13:44
SPEAKER_02: Can I keep you?
1:13:46
SPEAKER_02: What is that?
1:13:46
SPEAKER_02: The Indian in the cover?
1:13:47
SPEAKER_02: Uh Casper.
1:13:48
SPEAKER_02: No, yeah, it's Casper.
1:13:49
SPEAKER_02: Oh, God.
1:13:50
SPEAKER_02: Can I keep you?
1:13:51
SPEAKER_02: Can I keep you?
1:13:52
SPEAKER_02: Hey, you look like the dad from Casper.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_02: I do.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_00: When he turns into a ghost when he turns into a ghost.
1:13:57
SPEAKER_02: No one has looked more like anyone other than you.
1:13:59
SPEAKER_00: Everyone's always like, I look like the Pixar dad from inside out.
1:14:02
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, I look like the ghost dad from Cat.
1:14:05
SPEAKER_00: I literally do.
1:14:06
SPEAKER_00: It's amazing.
1:14:07
SPEAKER_00: I grew up into him.
1:14:08
SPEAKER_00: He's more he's more you than you are.
1:14:11
SPEAKER_00: Is what you're saying.
1:14:13
SPEAKER_00: Well, because my face has gotten bigger and fatter and rounder.
1:14:15
SPEAKER_00: I used to be all chin.
1:14:17
SPEAKER_02: And these glasses are getting tinier by the second.
1:14:19
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Madden.
1:14:20
SPEAKER_02: What happened?
1:14:21
SPEAKER_00: This is Madden on one wine.
1:14:24
SPEAKER_04: I love playing, but I'm like, in this, I feel like uncomfortable.
1:14:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:14:30
SPEAKER_04: Like I'm like, yeah.
1:14:32
SPEAKER_00: Well, it is, yeah, it's a costume.
1:14:35
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but for certain people, it's not like people wear this shit.
1:14:41
SPEAKER_04: A wig, also makeup.
1:14:44
SPEAKER_04: And then like it feels like I'm me.
1:14:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:14:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:14:47
SPEAKER_02: I really to each their own.
1:14:48
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, get it off me.
1:14:50
SPEAKER_04: I know.
1:14:50
SPEAKER_04: I feel very like.
1:14:52
SPEAKER_02: And if you're doing this on purpose, I know.
1:14:55
SPEAKER_02: I know.
1:14:56
SPEAKER_04: You're like, somebody help me.
1:14:58
SPEAKER_00: Why do I?
1:14:59
SPEAKER_00: It's painful.
1:15:00
SPEAKER_00: I guess heart.
1:15:01
SPEAKER_02: But it's in heart form.
1:15:02
SPEAKER_00: It truly is.
1:15:03
SPEAKER_00: And you're good at it.
1:15:04
SPEAKER_04: Your legs.
1:15:06
SPEAKER_00: You're a woman.
1:15:07
SPEAKER_04: But I'm like, you it's funny because you have you're like bulky.
1:15:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:15:13
SPEAKER_02: But you can give soft.
1:15:15
SPEAKER_02: It drops away.
1:15:16
SPEAKER_02: It can do both.
1:15:17
SPEAKER_02: Why do you have to do it?
1:15:18
SPEAKER_02: Because on both.
1:15:18
SPEAKER_02: On both.
1:15:19
SPEAKER_02: It's weird.
1:15:20
SPEAKER_04: That's so like with the body of like you're like soft.
1:15:25
SPEAKER_02: Thanks.
1:15:26
SPEAKER_02: I try.
1:15:27
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:15:27
SPEAKER_02: You're like, how?
1:15:29
SPEAKER_02: Josh.
1:15:31
SPEAKER_02: Cause I I do, it's both, it's they're both things.
1:15:33
SPEAKER_02: You just have it.
1:15:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:15:34
SPEAKER_02: How do you know?
1:15:35
SPEAKER_04: That's why like my masculine side actually.
1:15:37
SPEAKER_04: How did you know you had that?
1:15:39
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:15:40
SPEAKER_02: Since coming out, I I feel like almost more masculine than ever in a weird way.
1:15:44
SPEAKER_02: Cause all my cards are on the table, like I'm not performing for anyone.
1:15:47
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:15:47
SPEAKER_02: So it's made me like accept my gender, whether it be 50-50 or not, like whatever it is, like in a more secure way, which has been cool.
1:15:55
SPEAKER_02: Totally.
1:15:55
SPEAKER_02: So it feels like, oh, I can be a man for myself because that's like what I want to be, and it's not performative.
1:16:01
SPEAKER_02: And I can also like Gina's here, and I can just do that and be beautiful.
1:16:06
SPEAKER_04: And that's cool.
1:16:11
unknown: Yeah.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_00: That's amazing.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_00: Like a slow 90s.
1:16:14
SPEAKER_04: Like that's cool.
1:16:15
SPEAKER_00: Oh, wait.
1:16:16
SPEAKER_00: This is nothing, this has nothing to do with the game, but the 90s nutkick like it hasn't been seen on camera in decades.
1:16:23
SPEAKER_00: Like the 90s nutkick is transphobic.
1:16:26
SPEAKER_00: When it's something like crap, like a kid would be like, get away from me, and like kick like a band, like a robber in their house.
1:16:32
SPEAKER_00: Be like, yeah.
1:16:33
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's the knee.
1:16:34
SPEAKER_00: It would often be like a company with like mama.
1:16:36
SPEAKER_00: Like something like really dumb.
1:16:38
SPEAKER_00: You know, no one said mama about like.
1:16:46
SPEAKER_04: I love the hot chick.
1:16:47
SPEAKER_04: Like, that's I loved that shit.
1:16:49
SPEAKER_02: That's also body swap.
1:16:50
SPEAKER_02: It's so offensive.
1:16:51
SPEAKER_02: It's so transphobic now.
1:16:53
SPEAKER_02: But like I live.
1:16:55
SPEAKER_04: I what was his name?
1:16:56
SPEAKER_00: Rob Schneider.
1:16:57
SPEAKER_00: Rob Schneider.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_04: I love all those stupid ass movies.
1:17:02
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:17:02
SPEAKER_00: That's a Patreon episode.
1:17:05
SPEAKER_04: You're so trash.
1:17:08
SPEAKER_01: We should have river back and rewatched The Hot Chick.
1:17:10
SPEAKER_01: Wait, we should do that.
1:17:11
SPEAKER_01: That's a Patreon episode.
1:17:12
SPEAKER_01: We should do that.
1:17:13
SPEAKER_02: Wait, that movie is so problematic, but in the refreshing way, because it's so fucked up that it's like, okay.
1:17:17
SPEAKER_02: Kind of kinda.
1:17:18
SPEAKER_02: But that shit was nuts.
1:17:19
SPEAKER_02: I saw a clip recently and it's um uh Rachel McAdams being like the mean girl, whatever, and she bumps into the girl and she's like, You look skinny, are you eating less or barfing more?
1:17:28
SPEAKER_02: And the girl goes, barfing more.
1:17:30
SPEAKER_02: It's like amazing, like that.
1:17:33
SPEAKER_04: That was allowed.
1:17:33
SPEAKER_04: It was like, what the fuck?
1:17:35
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm like, I kind of wish it's coming back, sorry.
1:17:38
SPEAKER_04: I kind of wish that we could all work with like the those dudes from before.
1:17:45
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, you guys were kind of doing what we're doing now.
1:17:48
SPEAKER_04: Totally.
1:17:49
SPEAKER_00: Like ahead of the curve.
1:17:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you you even Adam Sandler had a drag drag.
1:17:53
SPEAKER_00: He was he was playing his sister or whatever that movie was.
1:17:55
SPEAKER_04: It was like I'm like, you guys were you were in character like fully, yeah.
1:18:02
SPEAKER_00: Like not like you were making fun, but you were embodying you were embodying it by embodying it.
1:18:09
SPEAKER_04: Like actually, let's go.
1:18:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let's go!
1:18:12
SPEAKER_04: Let's fucking see.
1:18:15
SPEAKER_04: Like, I would love that a crossover between all the guys that people think are like anti-trans and actual trans people.
1:18:23
SPEAKER_04: It's like you're not they could play.
1:18:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they get it.
1:18:26
SPEAKER_00: Like you're women, yeah.
1:18:27
SPEAKER_04: You're women.
1:18:28
SPEAKER_04: There's a part of you that's a woman.
1:18:31
SPEAKER_04: And that's what made it funny because it was so real.
1:18:34
SPEAKER_00: Like Tyler Perry.
1:18:35
unknown: Yeah.
1:18:36
SPEAKER_01: You're a woman.
1:18:39
SPEAKER_01: Something else.
1:18:40
SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure.
1:18:40
SPEAKER_04: It'd be cool if it was like can happen.
1:18:44
SPEAKER_02: L O L.
1:18:45
SPEAKER_00: Uh, well, that's label whores.
1:18:46
SPEAKER_00: I think we don't have anything left in that tank, unfortunately.
1:18:49
SPEAKER_00: Uh, any final cunty thoughts?
1:18:51
SPEAKER_04: Um, I loved this.
1:18:53
SPEAKER_00: We love you, River.
1:18:54
SPEAKER_00: We're so happy to have you.
1:18:55
SPEAKER_00: We really do.
1:18:56
SPEAKER_02: You are you are you are family.
1:18:58
SPEAKER_02: You are seriously one of the funniest people I know.
1:19:02
SPEAKER_04: I love you guys so much.
1:19:04
SPEAKER_04: I'm so happy you're doing this.
1:19:06
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
1:19:07
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
1:19:07
SPEAKER_02: And thank you for coming on.
1:19:08
SPEAKER_02: You're our first guest for season two.
1:19:10
SPEAKER_02: It's so cool.
1:19:11
SPEAKER_02: We're seriously finding you.
1:19:12
SPEAKER_00: What's going on?
1:19:12
SPEAKER_00: What are you up to?
1:19:13
SPEAKER_00: What are you up to?
1:19:14
SPEAKER_04: You're moving, maybe.
1:19:14
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm gonna move to.
1:19:16
SPEAKER_04: I keep staring at your crotch because I'm I'm no better than a man I'm finding.
1:19:23
SPEAKER_04: Um I am possibly moving to Philly.
1:19:28
SPEAKER_04: I hope by the time this comes out, I'll I'll have fine.
1:19:31
SPEAKER_00: This could literally come out in uh October.
1:19:33
SPEAKER_00: So it's like you probably hope.
1:19:35
SPEAKER_01: You'll be to Philly and back probably by the time this comes out.
1:19:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
1:19:38
SPEAKER_01: Like, we'll see.
1:19:39
SPEAKER_02: But uh we're putting you on a business.
1:19:41
SPEAKER_02: Please, please, I hope you do, because I'm like, I've been trying to I tell myself I've been saying I've been leaving for cheap.
1:19:47
SPEAKER_00: She's been trying to leave, and I'm like, you can't, you're we're doing something.
1:19:49
SPEAKER_00: And you're like, I'm out of here.
1:19:51
SPEAKER_00: I know I'll remote it.
1:19:53
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I have friends in Philly and like a lot of great artists and musician friends, so I'm like, it'll be very generative.
1:20:00
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:20:01
SPEAKER_04: I want more community stuff.
1:20:02
SPEAKER_04: Like here, it's just felt really uh network.
1:20:06
SPEAKER_04: Isolated, yeah, isolated.
1:20:07
SPEAKER_04: Networky, isolated.
1:20:09
SPEAKER_04: Like, what's anyone doing?
1:20:11
SPEAKER_04: What's anyone doing for themselves and not just to make it or get some sort of attention and including myself in that um I just want to have fun.
1:20:23
SPEAKER_04: Follow pile of tears and and pile of tears art?
1:20:26
SPEAKER_04: Pile of tears underscore art on pile of tears everywhere.
1:20:31
SPEAKER_04: Threads.
1:20:32
SPEAKER_02: But to me, you're just pile.
1:20:34
SPEAKER_04: I'm just pile.
1:20:35
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes I call you pile, and you're like, I can hear you say that.
1:20:38
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, pile.
1:20:40
unknown: Okay.
1:20:40
SPEAKER_02: God, I love you.
1:20:41
SPEAKER_00: I have to pee.
1:20:42
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:20:42
SPEAKER_00: I gotta untuck and pee also.
1:20:44
SPEAKER_00: I gotta pee just.
1:20:47
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1:20:52
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1:20:58
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