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Avengers Assemble! · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 8: all the comic books in the world, they can't substitute
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  Speaker 8: for that one person.
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  Speaker 7: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Patrick.
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  Speaker 1: the danger room, we decided. We were trying to remember
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  Speaker 1: what we called this last time we were in Patrick's
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  Speaker 1: subterranean attack mode bomb shelter movie watching facility.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, when zombies take over the world, you'll
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  Speaker 2: be glad you have a place to go that has
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  Speaker 2: a projector.
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  Speaker 5: That's true.
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  Speaker 2: And just in case you didn't watch the second Avengers movie,
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  Speaker 2: extra pairs of shorts.
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  Speaker 5: We need to just line all these sofas with plastic.
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  Speaker 5: It needs to look like Dexter's about to kill somebody
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  Speaker 5: in here.
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  Speaker 1: That's the way my whole house looks. What are you
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  Speaker 1: talking about? That's for practical purposes. I mean, you just
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  Speaker 1: got to plan ahead.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So before we get into it, we thought aside from
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  Speaker 1: our Avengers ridiculousness that will ensue, I'm sure, our little
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  Speaker 1: intro geek activities for the week would be, I'm assuming
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  Speaker 1: by now we've all gotten through Daredevil?
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  Speaker 5: I'm halfway through my second pass.
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually only on episode four, but I think that's enough.
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  Speaker 2: That's enough.
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  Speaker 1: It's your house, but get out.
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  Speaker 5: Is it four or five? Four or five has a
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  Speaker 5: real nice ending.
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  Speaker 10: There's several of them.
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  Speaker 2: I fell asleep through the end of it, so I
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  Speaker 2: don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Shut your face. Are you serious?
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  Speaker 2: I am very serious about that. Only because I work
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  Speaker 2: a lot.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's my thing.
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  Speaker 1: I usually do on most movies, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I have to go back and watch it. I just
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  Speaker 2: saw The Kingpin for the first time.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, okay.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it's episode three, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: There's... significant well early on there is something significant i
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  Speaker 5: thought then episode two which you've seen and then there's
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  Speaker 5: something i thought significant then if i thought it's episode
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  Speaker 5: four so you're about to see like the other to
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  Speaker 5: me like holy f kind of yeah you know showing
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  Speaker 5: just how brutal dark gritty and I think I know
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  Speaker 5: what you're talking about. I kept waiting for Steven Seagal
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  Speaker 5: to be Daredevil. He was just breaking so many arms
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  Speaker 5: and wrists. He's like the new Steven Seagal.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you like it because he pops out and he's like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm the goddamn Daredevil.
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  Speaker 5: Are we going to go right there?
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  Speaker 1: Do we need to throw the spoiler alert out on
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  Speaker 1: this one?
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  Speaker 5: I guess we won't go too deep. I can stay
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  Speaker 5: within spoilers.
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Everybody else has seen it.
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  Speaker 5: My thing is, The comic's been out for like 50 years.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 5: What am I spoiling? Not everybody's.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't it in the Ben Affleck movie?
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  Speaker 1: It's exactly the same, right?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, man. Yeah, I think I could stay, at least
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  Speaker 5: with Daredevil.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Ultron's going to be tough. We're doing full spoilers.
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  Speaker 10: We'll give you the heads up later, but yeah, it's
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  Speaker 10: going to be full spoilers.
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  Speaker 2: It's full frontal on Ultron.
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  Speaker 5: But Daredevil, it's mostly story driven. It's not like it
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  Speaker 5: had a twist. It would be tough to ruin Daredevil.
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  Speaker 1: It's got a few key moments.
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  Speaker 2: That would Surprise, he gets the suit.
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  Speaker 5: You may think that.
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  Speaker 1: After a while, I'm like, I'm pretty sure I've seen
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  Speaker 1: pictures of him in the suit. I kept going, he
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  Speaker 1: really needs to hurry up and get the suit so
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  Speaker 1: I can quit calling him Dread Prior Roberts. Because that's
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  Speaker 1: all the entire time. It was so funny going to,
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  Speaker 1: I went to C2E2 a couple weekends ago in Chicago,
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  Speaker 1: which is a big comic book convention for people who
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  Speaker 1: don't know. And I'm telling you right now, There was
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  Speaker 1: a ton of Daredevil cosplay, but 99% of it was
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  Speaker 1: the simple black pants, black tee, black bandana, some rope.
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  Speaker 5: There was like two people that were actually dressed as Daredevil.
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  Speaker 5: Everyone else was like, oh man, I can do that.
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  Speaker 5: That simple black attire he did for like 11 episodes.
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  Speaker 1: As they're ripping a curtain off mom's basement window. Where'd
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  Speaker 1: this curtain go? Shut up, mom.
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  Speaker 5: I'm putting on my head grip. Yeah, it was, it's
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  Speaker 5: kind of become the new lazy cosplay. Like for real, definitely.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes I appreciate those even.
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  Speaker 1: More that like are so half-assed. You're like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate your mental amount of effort you put into this.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's better than somebody who tries kind of hard,
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  Speaker 1: but still doesn't really nail it. I kind of like
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  Speaker 1: more that just sort of puts the t-shirt on. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: kind of dressed up right.
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  Speaker 5: You know we rant about this a lot because I
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  Speaker 5: mean you know I help out some friends at conventions
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  Speaker 5: so we're hanging out like all weekend just people watching
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  Speaker 5: essentially you know and it's fun to watch like the
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  Speaker 5: different levels of commitment. You know some people will be
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  Speaker 5: so decked out until you look at her shoes. And
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  Speaker 5: they're wearing, like, some sneakers. You know, it'll be like Thor, like,
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  Speaker 5: full-on armor cape.
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  Speaker 1: Thor didn't have Nikes.
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  Speaker 5: And he's wearing some, like, white K-Swiss. Like, you couldn't
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  Speaker 5: do the shoes? You couldn't do some shoes, too?
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  Speaker 1: Because we would sit at our table. There's been several
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  Speaker 1: times now where we will sit at the table with
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  Speaker 1: the mics, and she will just critique.
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  Speaker 5: And it's almost always shoes.
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  Speaker 1: She will be like, what is this sandals bullshit, girl?
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, you've got a full-on outfit going, and you
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  Speaker 1: wore flip-flops.
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  Speaker 5: Get the fuck out of here.
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  Speaker 1: That's the easy stuff.
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  Speaker 5: You don't have to make it. That's the one where
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  Speaker 5: you can kind of you know, maybe quote unquote cheat,
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  Speaker 5: you know, just buy them, just buy the shoes. You know,
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  Speaker 5: you don't have to, no one's expecting you to like
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  Speaker 5: soul a shoe, you know, to be authentic.
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  Speaker 1: Just please cobble this for me.
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  Speaker 2: Groot didn't wear Crocs. I'm pretty sure Groot didn't wear Crocs.
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  Speaker 5: They were green.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool, right?
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  Speaker 2: You grew a whole fucking tree into a costume and
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  Speaker 2: then you put goddamn Crocs on.
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  Speaker 5: It's interesting you brought that up at C2E2. They have
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  Speaker 5: some national level, you know, cosplay contest and the person
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  Speaker 5: that won was Groot.
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  Speaker 2: That was a very impressive costume.
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  Speaker 5: Eight-foot-tall, amazing-looking Groot.
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  Speaker 10: Again, he just had a twig taped to his head.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys. I'm Groot.
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  Speaker 5: Just a bunch of mulch. He just, like, did, like,
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  Speaker 5: spray glue all over his body and rolled around in mulch.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Groot.
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  Speaker 2: Fucking up the one line.
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  Speaker 5: There was one line!
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm totally Groot. Wait, that's not.
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  Speaker 5: No, wait a minute. Hey, guys.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Groot.
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  Speaker 5: Groot is I. Be like the Yoda Groot.
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  Speaker 1: Groot.
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  Speaker 5: So, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, just overall, Daredevil, I'm like, again, we've kind
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  Speaker 1: of entered into a whole new level. Just in general,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I, and this is how I knew, because
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  Speaker 1: I don't, I'm kind of hit and miss on TV
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  Speaker 1: shows anyway, and, like, definitely, like, I'm not the marathon-ing through. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I know that's everybody's favorite thing to do now, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm just kind of like, the few that I actually
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  Speaker 1: watch regularly, I kind of do try to hit that
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  Speaker 1: night and be like, oh, yeah, that's on Tuesday. I'll
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  Speaker 1: try to be home and watch that. So it's like
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  Speaker 1: most of the ones I'm watching.
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  Speaker 5: Which iZombie is awesome, by the way. Is it good?
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  Speaker 10: I really like it. I'm making a point to be
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  Speaker 10: home to watch iZombie.
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  Speaker 6: Got you.
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  Speaker 1: And I think I've said it before, but that chick,
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  Speaker 1: way hotter as a zombie. They show the flashback episode
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  Speaker 1: from the pilot, and I'm just like, oh, zombie girl.
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  Speaker 10: Like, all of a sudden, she gets all pale and
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  Speaker 10: white hair and dead, and I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Just like, oh, now she's hot.
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  Speaker 5: Brian's secretly gone.
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  Speaker 2: This episode brought to you by the Suicide Girls.
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  Speaker 1: If they want to spy, I mean, that's all they
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  Speaker 1: do is sell out now, so if they want to
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  Speaker 1: kick in some cash, I am all for that.
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  Speaker 5: I liked it when it was just emo chicks taking
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  Speaker 5: pictures of themselves.
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  Speaker 1: That's before they sold out. Anyway.
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  Speaker 5: I have to pick that interesting side note. Because, you know,
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  Speaker 5: it was like, all to build up on that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I was just like, I don't know on this. I
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  Speaker 5: just have a feeling this is a cash in. So
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  Speaker 5: you tell me it's good. I'll have to, I zombie.
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  Speaker 5: I get, well, see, that's, that's the thing. It's, um, Oh, uh,
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  Speaker 5: Rob Thomas who did Veronica Mars, which.
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  Speaker 1: I still to this day, I think is one of
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  Speaker 1: the best written shows ever period. And, um, it's really
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  Speaker 1: close like there's times that i'm like this is just
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  Speaker 1: the gothy veronica like it even has like this like
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  Speaker 1: voiceover stuff that is straight up exactly the stuff that
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  Speaker 1: used to kick in in the middle of veronica mars
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  Speaker 1: and i'm just like that's half the reason i think
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  Speaker 1: i'm so attached to it but i do like that
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  Speaker 1: they took because again zombies how much can we beat
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  Speaker 1: the hell out of zombies at this point uh about
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  Speaker 1: five years ago you know we were already at the
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  Speaker 1: point of like good god there's a lot of zombies
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  Speaker 1: but it found this new weird spin on it that
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  Speaker 1: I guess is in the comic. But to me, just
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  Speaker 1: in general, like approaching it as a story, the fact
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  Speaker 1: that they've put this weird twist on it where like,
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  Speaker 1: and again, it's so convenient, but real world, the fact
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  Speaker 1: that she found a way to be around brains.
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  Speaker 5: All the time.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's kind of awesome. Like nobody's done that in
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  Speaker 1: something other than this before.
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  Speaker 5: And then the fact that, Eating the brains gives.
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  Speaker 1: Her this weird connection to the person that she just
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  Speaker 1: ate their brains. Oh, it's almost.
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  Speaker 5: Like she eats their memories.
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  Speaker 1: And then, well, she has these weird flashes in her head,
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  Speaker 1: so now like, there's a cop that's investigating that first one.
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  Speaker 1: Now we can solve a crime.
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  Speaker 5: That thinks that she's psychic.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. And she's like, oh, shit, now I
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  Speaker 1: have to pretend like I'm psychic.
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  Speaker 5: Interesting. So, yeah, there's several different parts of it.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is a cool spin that, like,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see coming and is done pretty well.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I can see where that almost has a Shaun of
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  Speaker 5: the Dead kind of play.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's fun, but it does have some dark moments.
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  Speaker 1: They so far have not been afraid to introduce a
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  Speaker 1: character and then off them pretty quickly. And I'm like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: that's not always done on TV shows in particular. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's been kind of an interesting run. So I like that.
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  Speaker 1: Not Daredevil, but that nice side note there. It's still
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  Speaker 1: based on a comic. Comic fanboy geek talk. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That's one of the few that
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'll try to actually sit.
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  Speaker 5: Down and watch it.
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  Speaker 1: But I knew Daredevil was something special when I was
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  Speaker 1: actually like, shit, I need to watch another episode. I
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  Speaker 1: don't ever do that.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't happen anymore.
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  Speaker 1: The few that I've watched on Netflix in a row,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh my god. It's so grueling to
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  Speaker 1: me that it's 12 to 15 hours worth of time
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  Speaker 1: logged in. I'm like, I just finished this so I
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  Speaker 1: can stop watching them.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm not like that with Daredevil.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Oh my God, it's almost over.
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  Speaker 5: What the hell am I going to do then?
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  Speaker 1: I want more.
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  Speaker 2: I need more goddamn Daredevil.
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  Speaker 5: Anything for a reason to watch it again. I'm watching
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  Speaker 5: it with the girlfriend now, but you know, like I
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  Speaker 5: probably would have watched it a second time anyway. I
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  Speaker 5: think it was, I absorbed it. I think I would,
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  Speaker 5: I found out, you know, usually I'm, I'm good about
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  Speaker 5: stuff like this. Like the day it comes out, being
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  Speaker 5: on it and something happened where someone posted something on
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  Speaker 5: Facebook or something about Daredevil. And I was just like,
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  Speaker 5: Holy F I missed it. Like, It had been out
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  Speaker 5: for two or three days, and I was still behind
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  Speaker 5: the times.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 5: Why even try? I watched all 12 episodes in three days.
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  Speaker 5: It was like four episodes a day for the weekend,
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  Speaker 5: and I was just like, oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: Again, I would have called you out for that, except
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  Speaker 1: when I started watching Daredevil. I was like, oh, that's
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  Speaker 1: not bad. Four a day, I can deal with that.
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  Speaker 1: I guess to really get into it now, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like the.
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  Speaker 5: The storytelling was so much richer than any of the
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  Speaker 5: other Marvel experiences to this point. Like, you know, when
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  Speaker 5: you have 12 hours to elaborate on a pilot instead
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  Speaker 5: of like one and a half, two, you know, which
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  Speaker 5: is why, you know, he does spend so much time
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  Speaker 5: in that, you know, black attire. Like, you know, you
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  Speaker 5: have to kind of keep in mind this entire project
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  Speaker 5: is the pilot. It's not like the first couple episodes
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  Speaker 5: are the pilot and we're going to get into it. Like,
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  Speaker 5: He's a complicated character and he has complicated villains. And
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  Speaker 5: so they took the time to fully elaborate.
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  Speaker 2: Which is genius and which is the way it should be.
• 12:45
  Speaker 5: Hell's Kitchen is such a big deal anyway.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 12:47
  Speaker 5: You know, I mean, now, man, I mean, things you
• 12:50
  Speaker 5: could do with a Spider-Man cameo or a Punisher cameo
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  Speaker 5: now is just.
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  Speaker 2: Worth everything.
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  Speaker 5: Like, it's just like, oh my God. They're like two episodes.
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 5: The infamous scene at the end of episode two, which
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  Speaker 5: is just literally like, I don't know if it's given...
• 13:07
  Speaker 5: an homage or a middle finger to Oldboy, but either way, man,
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  Speaker 5: I was just like, where's the Punisher? Where's Frank Castle?
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  Speaker 5: This is the perfect atmosphere and environment.
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  Speaker 2: And why isn't he played by Bane?
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  Speaker 9: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 5: Did you hear who wants to do it?
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  Speaker 2: Who?
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  Speaker 5: Oldboy from Mad Max.
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  Speaker 1: No, Bane.
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  Speaker 5: Was that him?
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  Speaker 1: Tom Hardy.
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  Speaker 2: Tom Hardy wants to be Bane.
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  Speaker 5: Wow, I really did hate that movie, didn't I?
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  Speaker 2: Because you blocked out the best character. The best actor.
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  Speaker 5: You're going to get me ranting, dude. Bane is not
• 13:39
  Speaker 5: some white English dude. It bugged me before I even
• 13:42
  Speaker 5: sat in the theater.
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  Speaker 2: South African.
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  Speaker 5: We're going to get that straight. South American. He's like Brazilian,
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  Speaker 5: I believe, right? Isn't the actual Bane from Brazil? I
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  Speaker 5: have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just making shit up as I go along.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, that dude would be he's pretty good and just
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: about everything i've seen him and he's pretty damn impressive so.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah stoked yeah that uh i've told most people to
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  Speaker 5: like you know people that maybe aren't in the comics
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  Speaker 5: you know people i'm trying to you know bring over
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  Speaker 5: it's like you know if you watch daredevil just do
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  Speaker 5: me a favor and watch two think of it as
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  Speaker 5: a movie watch two because when you get to.
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  Speaker 2: The end of that second one.
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  Speaker 5: Those first two alone, if you're not hooked, you're not
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  Speaker 5: going to be hooked. But you're probably going to be hooked.
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  Speaker 1: I think it works because it's kind of not comic book-y,
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  Speaker 1: just the way that it's set up. I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: spends so much time hanging out in the law office.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's kind of not a comic book.
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: It's so light in its references. They're there. And when
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: they're there, they're fun. Like, I forget the complete context
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: with someone's someone failed, someone's getting ripped to shreds by
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: his mob boss, and when a guy's making excuses, he
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: says something like, unless the guy was wielding a hammer
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: or flying in a metal suit, I don't want to
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: hear it. Something making reference to Thor and Iron Man.
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: I was like, see, I dig that. I like that
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: you acknowledge this is still in the universe, but not
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: everything has to be fantastic, which it's not in Daredevil's realm.
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: I think the genius part.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: Is that I think the very first episode there where
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: they're talking about why they get such a deal on
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: that space to put the law. It's because the Battle
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: of New York and like most people will not get
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: that reference.
• 15:18
  Speaker 10: But like for Marvel geeks, they're like, oh, my God,
• 15:20
  Speaker 10: it's the same universe.
• 15:21
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: You know, so I'm like, it is funny that.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: And at the end, they bring that back around where
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: you see the shots of that happening. And it is
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: funny that that is such a monumental thing within the
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: universe that it has all these little, well, not little, obviously,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: but it's still, like years later, it will have these
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: after effects that have affected the entire city and the
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: entire world as it goes on.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: Which is going to help it make a lot more
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: sense in its overall universe whenever Civil War stuff starts
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: to happen. Because it's... I'm sure it's going to be
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: a bit different from the comics reading how they're going
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: to do it, but it's still going to have to
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: do with collateral damage. It's still going to have to
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: do with these superheroes. Yeah, you've got to fight at
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: this level to stop these guys, but it doesn't mean
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: that people are going to be happy that you just
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: obliterated half their city. So it's like seeing how their
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: actions in Avengers movie led to... all this crime and
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: all this poverty, you know, it just, it's going to
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: add so much more relevance when the civil war movie happened.
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: Cause they're going to be able to name drop this
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: stuff and just be like, well, look at, look at
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: hell's kitchen. You guys completely like decimated a quarter of
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: the city. And it's just, you know, it's all crime.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: And, and speaking of hell's kitchen, not that I'm usually, uh,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: on board with this, but midway into the run of
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: this series, I was just like, okay, for geeks out
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: there who want a drinking game, every time they say
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: the city, uh, I mean, Kingpin is going to give
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: some people alcohol poisoning because it is so often that
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: he goes on about his love for the city. A
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: couple of times an episode, at least, there is a
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: rant about the city. Just like, there's your drinking game.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: That's what makes it dark and gritty, though.
• 17:01
  Speaker 9: It does.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: But he's always so preachy about it, though. He's so
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: not dark and gritty about it.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Thank God it's Vincent D'Onofrio. He's so cool.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: Fucking you know going into it i was real skeptical.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: I was skeptical too but when you see him and
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: then you're reminded of like the cell and and those
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: things you're like nobody could character act such a weird
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: fucking character to begin with better it's just one of
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: those super villains that it's like you need the best
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: actor like it would it's either vincent d'onofrio like daniel
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: day lewis and they couldn't get danny.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: Well you know and it's like i bulk up a
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: little bit i i As the show was going on,
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: and I was liking him as Kingpin, there was a
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: part of me that... And I've done this with a
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: bunch of other characters as just geeks stuff, probably from
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: watching this. But immediately, I was just like, I want
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: Kingpin to be bigger so I can see him interact
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: with other superheroes. I love the way he's acting so much.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: I want him to have a back and forth with
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: Tony Stark slash Robert Downey Jr. I want him to
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: have a back and forth with Chris Evans. That's what
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: I think is so... exciting you know before we got
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: the Avengers movies it was when we got them all
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: individually we knew that they were going to come together
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: like oh my gosh it's going to be so awesome
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: seeing this guy and this guy and I'm already feeling
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: that with Daredevil I'm like hopefully with season 2 we
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: can work in some cameos or something because Kingpin is
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: so great and he's so more relatable I don't want
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: to say than the comic but the way that they
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: really showed you both sides of the coin with him
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: is just like I don't hate him I'm terrified of him,
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: but I don't hate him, if that makes sense. That's
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: what I thought was.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: So good about it, is that they don't just make
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: him a big caricature of a villain. You spend a
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: couple episodes, and you really are kind of like, he's
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: really not that bad a guy.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: He's a product of the environment. Again, it goes back
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: to the whole battle in New York, and I'm sure
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: his childhood was before that, but it is still, he's
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: the product of his environment. Again, trying to say a
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: little spoiler-free, but you see that he wasn't a bad
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: person when he was.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Young and you also see how professional he is like
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: everything and he never really gets himself he never really
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: gets violent over business right the only time he ever
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: loses it is when it gets personal right if you
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: cross that line into somebody that he cares about do
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: not embarrass him he will lose it but other than
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: that like you never see he will have people killed
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: for business reasons, but he still is not ever emotionally involved.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: It is just, it is business. And this is what
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I do in the city.
• 19:31
  Speaker 10: But that, and like, that's such an interesting.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Performance because again, I think if you gave it to
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: a lesser, everybody involved, lesser writers, a lesser performer, like
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: they would just be like, Oh, he's a big dumb
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: villain all the time. But like the fact that he
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: kind of plays it so subtle in the beginning that
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: you're like, this guy's not so bad and then when
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: you see him lose it you're like oh oh.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Shit yeah like that's he's the episode four yeah like
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: i said same spoiler free but the first time you
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: see him lose it man you know i used to
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: think american history x had a shocking moment not anymore
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: you have been two upped I want to like, to me,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: that was like a two up.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: I was like, wow.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: See, here's the sad thing is that part. I didn't
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: find near as shocking as other people that were telling
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: me about it. I was like, were you talking about
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: four when the, you know, they were like, yeah. And
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, see, yeah. Well, I was, no, the
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: sad part was like right before that I was calling
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: it out. I was like, well, you're obviously good.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: You're right there. Like I was looking at the framing.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: I'm like, well, the dude's right. So you're gonna.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: And like, so then when he did, I was like,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: of course, that's what you were going to do. I'm like, Oh,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I'm a horrible, evil person.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: So on a side note, Brian's a supervillain.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: That's possibly true.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I just need that funding from the city.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: It reminded me of, you know, after seeing like Reservoir
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Dogs ages ago and you tell everybody about the ear scene,
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: you know, and some people were just like, what? It
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: wasn't that bad. And you're like, what is wrong with you?
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: Have you ever cut a person's ear off? And it
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: was because it was kind of filmed that same way.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: It leaves, you know what's going on. You hear what's
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: going on.
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: But it leaves your imagination to really decide how disgusting
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: this is. And apparently I have a vivid imagination because
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: every time gore is filmed this way, I think it's
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: insane even though you don't actually see a thing. There's
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: some viscera. There's some drippage, but you don't see it.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: But I was still just like, and it felt like
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: the longest scene in the world. Watching it a second time,
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: it's probably only about 20 seconds? But to me, it
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: felt like three minutes. I'm like, oh my God, is
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: this going to stop? Is this ever going to stop?
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: You're crying on the floor.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: Oh God, oh God, make it stop. So that's why
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: I actually, because I'm sure, you know, again, someone's going
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: to talk about the voice because there's a little bit
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: of Batman.
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: You mean?
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was too bad.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: The Daredevil. Like, you know, with Daredevil, it was a
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: little like, why are you doing it? Kingpin may come
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: sense to me, though, because I felt like he's like
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: the Hulk. He's just this dude that has this insane
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: temper and brutal rage just beneath the surface, and it's
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: just visible and audible. You can just hear in his
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: voice he wants to overreact at all times. So when
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: you're giving him bad news and he kind of goes
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: into that voice, it's almost like a red light flashing
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: like B- Be careful with everything you're about to say
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: and do because he might just snap. So I pardoned
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: him on a voice. There was a couple times where
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: Daredevil got a little growling. I'm like, you're a little boy.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: You're a little boy.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Quit growling.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's not so bad.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Jump around and do your flips.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: I feel like when he did it, it was when
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: it was people. It was much more methodical. Batman seemed
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: to just do it 24-7. I felt like Matt was
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: doing it when it was people he was going to
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: have to talk to in his regular life. It was cops.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: It was, you know, associates. It was people where it's like, okay,
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: he has to kind of hide his voice a little
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: here where Batman just did it to everybody.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: People always call me out when I do it at work.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it, it was surprising. I think how
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: much the weird mask, cause it seems like there's still
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: so much of him, but I'm like, all right, you
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: might not, you might not know. Like, To me, it
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: almost was more the fact that, like, at first I
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: was like, that's kind of awesomely creepy that it has
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: no eye holes.
• 23:28
  Speaker 10: Like, he's not pretending. Like, he's just like, I can't,
• 23:31
  Speaker 10: you know, it's.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Totally covering my face. But it's worse than fucking Clark
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Kent because it's like, well, if you're blind and.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: My lawyer is blind.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: I was, like, midway into him talking with people he knows.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, you obviously can't see through that thing.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: So, like, either you're magical psychic and you can.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: Like, know what's going on, which is kind of true.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: But on top of that, I'm like, if you're narrowing
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: the field of who this guy could be in the
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: real world, I don't know, that blind guy over there?
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: Who also seems to find the doorknob really easy? It
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: does seem to be a giveaway.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I know exactly where to go now.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: So finally, once the suit comes into play, I'm like,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: at least then you can't really tell so much, so
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: that works okay.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: I'm still on the fence on the actual suit.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I'm glad that they're taking a long time getting to it,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: because I think the suit's retarded. But that's just me.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: I kind of think that it's gimmicky.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: I do think season two will see a revamp. I
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: think what you're going to get Cause I feel like
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: it's kind of general opinion. Like, it seems like no
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: one's very excited about the suit itself. And then, and
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: I think they'll do a, you know, that was, you know,
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: prototype number one. I think we'll get a different suit
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: in season two.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: He just comes out in his little ninja outfit and
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know what? Thank you. Cause Iron Man,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: you need a fucking suit. But like this guy, like
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: when Ben Affleck starts sewing and I'm.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Like, yeah, you're blind and you're selling like, right. Let's just, I, I,
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: I get your special, but you're, a blind person. So
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: in a suit, am I the.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Only one though, that like when he does these fights
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: and he's being thrown from building to building or running
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: after people, am I the only one that wants him
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: to be like, just stop and go like, where the
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: fuck am I? I forgot to count. Was that North?
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Shit. My favorite actually is cause, and I almost like,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I guess they did this on purpose. Cause
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: there are several times when like, he'll come into the
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: office as himself and his hair is not combed exactly right.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's pretty good. If that's on purpose,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: like that's an awesome detail.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: Cause I'm like, how would you ever fucking know?
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Like that's gotta be frustrating.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: That is a direct reference eventually.
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: Doesn't she kind of call him out towards the end?
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: I think so. Someone does something like, you know, does
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: he say it? I think he said, he's talking about
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: people that, you know, ask blind people questions. He's like,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: how do you comb your hair?
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: And I was like, And then later on when he
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: came in, I'm like, it's kind of messed up a little.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Just a little bit.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Just enough that you wouldn't know the difference. Everything has
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: been so methodical in the Marvel stuff. So methodical that
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: I'm sure this is all over.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: It's like people are going to know that his hair
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: is actually a reference to the Hulk issue 4.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: See that girl? See that girl? All I know is
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the intro scene has to be sponsored by Maker's Mark.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: It has to be sponsored by the same people who
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: brought you the intro scene to Hannibal.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: Is it similar?
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: It's pretty similar. Blood pouring over shit.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: Oh, got you.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: Man, I dig it, though. I dig it. I want
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: to see... I usually don't care for his cliche bad guys.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty stoked to see Elektra, though. It's not confirmed
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: at all, but when old Chinese girl went home, I
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: was like, yeah, you go home. You go bring Elektra
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: with you next time. Because, you know... Well, here's something
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: we haven't even started on yet, really. We talked about
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: how brutal that fight was at the end of episode two,
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: but the choreography, holy F, these fights go above it, like,
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: for being realistic. Yeah, that's exactly what I was about
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: to try to, like, differentiate there. Like, you know, the
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: action in Avengers 2 is just, like, holy, like, I
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: was not joking with that comment. I mean, I need
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: to see it again just to, like, realize what I
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: just saw. The action is so fast and intense. You know,
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: there is, like, That one at the end, it was
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: just doing a 360 pan as they fought. I was
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: just picking people to watch. I'm like, I can't watch
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: all this, so I'm going to watch what Thor's doing.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: You know, it was like you have to pick someone
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: because there's so much and it's so awesome.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: That's how they fight in Mayberry, apparently.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: Daredevil just, man, the choreography. This is not just mindless beat-em-up.
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: This is good. If any part of you has ever
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: liked a martial arts movie, any part of you has
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: ever liked some old John Booth stuff like this.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: There he goes, pleading to the internet again.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: But it And again, as much as he's jumping around
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: and doing all this physical stuff, it never feels unreal.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: It feels like somebody knows what he's doing. I love
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: how he gets tired and he'll be leaning. He'll be
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: leaning up against a wall or a car, and then
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: just as he's about to get hit, then he pops
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: back into form and dodges and goes back. You see him...
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Getting fatigued, getting hurt. I mean, you really see him
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: getting hurt. Oh, man.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Again, not to spoil it, but you were talking about
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: the second episode fight. Like, to me, the one midway
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: into the run with one of the other bad guys
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: will say, that is brutal.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: Like, it is hardcore. So, I don't know.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: It's all just so well choreographed and pieced together. All
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: of the fights are very real-world fights. So, again, I
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: give him credit for that, that it doesn't seem like
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: a bad CG effect all the.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: Time that he's doing.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Like, it feels like this guy or whoever, like it
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: feels like it is a physical person doing it and
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: it could happen. If you were that skilled at it,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: all of these things could actually happen.
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Bounce off of a fire escape and disappear over the
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: building and you're like.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: That could happen. Off the wall kicks he would pull off.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: I'm just like, that's so... I'm not trying to be
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: too unrealistic about this, but we'll watch a lot of
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: martial arts and there's a lot of things in fights
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: where you're just like, when would you ever really do that?
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: Come on. When would you really do that kick? That's
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: just pretty. It's not functional.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Somehow he makes those kind really functional. There's stuff that
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: seems so impractical when he'll flip upside down but then
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: his foot will land on their head and i'm just
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: like okay the fact that you could ever choreograph that
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: right and not have supersonic bat powers is like would
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: be impractical or impossible but like when he lands it
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and it totally annihilates that guy.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: I'm like oh that's awesome and it was great like
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: in that hallway scene there's um he pulls one of
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: those kicks like getting around the door and it's like
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: that kind of stuff was like it makes sense You know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: like he jumps, kicks off the wall, get on the
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: door and turns it into an offensive maneuver. It's like this.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: This works. It's smart. It's realistic.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: That's everything about it. It works.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: It's smart. It's realistic.
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: Daredevil.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 8: Up.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: That's our plug there for our Marvel super special.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: So we will take our break here, and we will
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: come back and get into the Age of Ultron.
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• 31:01
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• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Happens to be the best damn candidate out of 600 volunteers.
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: A secret experiment gave one man the strength of a hundred.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: The rest of the world, he's just codenamed Captain America.
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: And the power to save millions.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: The gerrysand experimental rocket ready to fire.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: And a target somewhere in the United States.
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: Only he could defeat a superhuman madman.
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: We got a fella called the Red Skull heading up
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• 31:27
  Speaker 5: All's we can hope to get in there is one
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• 31:34
  Speaker 8: Trapped in an icy grave until fate released him to
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: finish a battle started decades ago yeah he's still alive
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: we don't know where he is or who he is
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: now an evil genius is on the verge of global domination.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: Captain america you gotta help.
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: Us and only captain america can stop him Ronnie Cox,
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  Speaker 8: Ned Beatty, Darren McGavin, Kim Gillingham.
• 32:02
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  Speaker 8: Salinger as the Marvel Comics hero, Captain America.
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• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Leah Thompson. You're listening to Movie Meltdown.
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: My God.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: This relationship, it defies all the laws of nature.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: This is not what you think. We're just very good friends.
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: Get more out of life.
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: Go out to a movie.
• 34:45
  Speaker 9: I was designed to save the world.
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: People would look to the sky and see hope. I'll
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: take that from them first. There's only one path to peace.
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: Their extinction.
• 35:16
  Speaker 9: I tried to create a suit of armor around the world.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: But I created something terrible.
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: Artificial intelligence.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: It's called the Ultron Program.
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: I'm sick of watching people pay for our mistakes.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Isn't why we fight so we can end the fight
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: and go home?
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: Well, you amazingly failed. Here we all are.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: There's nothing but our wit and our will to save
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: the world.
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: So stand and fight.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: No way we all get through this. I got no
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: plans tomorrow night.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I'm always picking up after you boys.
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: We can tear them apart. From the inside.
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: Alright, we are back.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: And Patrick's been abducted.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: We're not really sure. He wandered off and we haven't
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: seen him. We're He said something about he had an
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: appointment with a Mr.
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: Fisk.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: And then he made fun of his mom or something.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he did.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: Did he say he was going to go meet him
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: at the restaurant or something? Pretty sure he'd be there.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Right after he said he loves Superman. He can't wait
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: for Batman v Superman. It's his favorite movie.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: He knows it.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: We're basically just going to make fun of Patrick Till.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe he resurfaces, but In the meantime, I guess we'll
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: get going on the movie. So we actually, again, it's
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: always shocking when geeks leave the house. We actually went
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: out into the world and saw this movie. So that
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: makes it for once the out on the town feature
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: this week is Avengers colon Age of Ultron.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: The year is 2015. Director Joss Whedon.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: The plot, according to IMDb, when Tony Stark and Bruce
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Banner try to jumpstart a dormant peacekeeping program called Ultron,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Things go horribly wrong, and it's up to Earth's mightiest
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: heroes to stop the villainous Ultron from enacting his terrible plans.
• 37:57
  Speaker 10: Spoiler alert.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: No, seriously. I know this is a new movie, but
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: we're going to go full in on this one and
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: just reveal things you probably don't want to know about
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: if you haven't seen the movie.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: So go watch the movie. You have been warned. Where
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: would you like to begin? I guess from the beginning.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I think that's what I noticed going in is like
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Joss realized his money shot and just like, well, we're
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: just going to start with that. Because, I mean, Avengers 1,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: we get that sweeping shot around the city that just
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: watching them all fight and then that big hero shot
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: of all of them together. And he's like, oh, no,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I'm going to start this movie like that. So, I mean,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: you get that battle through the woods and it's just
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: leaping from one to the other. And then we get the, like,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: it's not cool enough that they're all jumping. We're going
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: to slow-mo it so you guys can go, oh, cool.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: It's so cool.
• 38:57
  Speaker 10: Yeah, so geeks everywhere just lost their shit.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: And I was just like, now he knows.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: Like, it's not that he didn't already know. Now that
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: I have your attention. I know I'm a geek god anyway, but, like,
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: watch this.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Like, before we even get through the intro scene here, yeah, you're.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: Going to lose it. I think to some degree that was...
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: I don't even think that was like about story writing
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: and about, you know, it was more of like, OK, look,
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: when this movie drops, it will have been like what
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: four five years since the first one it's like we're
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: gonna get you guys in that frame of mind real
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: quick it's like you've been waiting for it here it
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: is like right off the bat boom get the adrenaline
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: going get your attention get the eyes dilated we're back.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: We're on like it never ended yeah I mean it
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: did get right back into that and I think that's
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: what I kind of took from it. Cause afterwards I
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: remember like not, I don't know. By the end, it's like,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I wasn't as overwhelmed as I assumed, I guess I
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: would be. But I think it's because I was just
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: right back into that mode. And I think that in
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: a way is like a good thing because I, I was,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I think that first time I was so caught off
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: guard because it's like, it was this culmination of everything
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: for years that we'd never seen happen before. And then
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: interactions were so good. Yeah.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: That like i'm like oh no.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: It all paid off really like you did it like.
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: You made it happen and it was awesome so it's.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Like i think the other alternative would have been for
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: it to suck but because it didn't by the end
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: i was just like oh no that was good that
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: was that was what i.
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: Wanted like that was right back into it just like
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: so i.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Think that was my takeaway was more like i didn't
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: have a weird different feeling because he did what he
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: needed to do like he just kept it going at
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: the level it was and maybe even improved upon it
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: a little bit. So I think that was my like
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: feeling going out of the theater. It was just like, yep,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: that's what I wanted. Like he knows what he's doing.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: You know, it's like, there was a part of me about,
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: you know, I'm sure we'll bring it up more, but
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: there is, there's some dramatic pacing contrast. And it's not
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: that the first one was ever like, you know, high
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: then low, but you get a high and low in this.
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: I felt like immediately it was like a big high,
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: and what feels like a low because then the tones
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: just brought down so much for a good 15, 20 minutes.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: But it's, to me, there was like a much more tangible,
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: like I think its function has changed. I think with
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: the first Avengers, it was showing you, you know, the plan. Like,
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: you know, you had all these solo movies and look,
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: guess what? They're all here. We didn't have to waste
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: time with pilots. We didn't have to waste time with backgrounds.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: Just they're here. They're going to do it. You know,
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: it's going on. Let's move forward. I felt like the
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: function for Avengers two, when I would guess will be
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: at a function even more so for Avengers three is
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: it's almost like this is the first chapter of a
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: new book. Like it's like, okay, because there was so many, man,
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: if you haven't read comics, you just have no idea
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: how many Easter egg type things there wasn't. There was
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: so many people, there was nothing in that movie was
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: an accident. every person they talked to every location they
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: went to all this stuff matters like you know i
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: know it's his whole kind of running thing to kind
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: of like emulate star wars and people getting their hands
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: chopped off but you know the the dude that plays
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: gollum right yeah wasn't it him and eric getting his
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: hand chopped off he's he's a big deal he's a
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: big big baddie later on he'll I assume being the
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: Black Panther movie. That wasn't an accident. It's not just
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: some dude at a control panel. That was kind of
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: his origin story in a way. He's going to do
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: something with his hand, come back a big bad guy.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: The location they went to for the vibranium, again, that
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: was another reference to Black Panther. That's what I heard.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I'd heard that one, if you go back, is planted
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: way earlier than that.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: If you go.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I think maybe it's the first Avengers, if not one
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: of the Iron Man, but I think it's the first
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Avengers because they give... the Tony Stark, that like file
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: of like, and he like throws all the maps up
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: on the wall. And one of them is that location
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: in Africa where they go, where it's eventually going to
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: be how the whole.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: Black Panther movie starts.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: And like how many years, because the black Panther movie
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: is not coming out for what, like two or three
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: more years.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: So it's like, how many years ahead were they planning
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: that shit? Here's where, you know, Marvel universe can get
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: real confusing right now, movie wise, but he's confirmed to
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: be in the civil wars movie, which is technically the next.
• 43:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: There's not a new Iron Man, not a new Captain
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: America per se. They're going to be in it. They're
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: calling it the next Captain America movie. I thought it was.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Captain America 3 is how they're billing it now.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: It's both of them. This is going to be their
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: last solo-ish kind of run probably. But Black Panther is
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: confirmed to be in that. So either he will debut
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: in that, then get his movie, or they're going to
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: come out about the same. Well, no, Civil War is
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: next year, right? I think it's that quick. Isn't Civil
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: War like May next year?
• 43:48
  Speaker 10: I thought the next Captain America was like next year sometimes.
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: So I guess we'll get a glimpse at him in that.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: And then he'll get his full-on solo. I think Ant-Man's
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: going to be in that, too, which I thought was interesting.
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of, like, they announced the cast for
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: Civil War, and there was a lot of people in
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: there I was surprised about. I was like, wow, you're
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: rushing a lot of these guys right into it.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially since we don't really have a lot of
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: between now and then. Like, you've got Ant-Man, but that's
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: kind of the big end of.
• 44:14
  Speaker 10: Marvel for this year. They've kind of shoved it all
• 44:17
  Speaker 10: in the first half, so.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: It's interesting that they're going to be able to get
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: to that level again without entering extra little side movies
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: and whatnot. Look, it's Patrick. He's a horrible person.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: Mr. Kent has joined us. Mr. DC.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: We went into 15 or 20 minutes on how much
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: you love Superman and.
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: How Aquaman is the favorite superhero ever.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Unless he's like, I'm the goddamn Aquaman.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's kind of funny. This is kind of worth mentioning.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: This is my friend's story, not mine, but it's still amusing.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: So everyone's seen the picture of the Joker, right? I
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: think I posted it.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Stupid social networking.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: We haven't talked about it, so I don't know your
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: guys' opinions. I'll say I'm cynical. That's not anything new.
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: I expected that.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I was not impressed when I saw Heath Ledger's first
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: picture as Joker.
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: And I've heard this argument.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to say that.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: I wasn't even going to get into, like, photo bashing
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: because they're already backpedaling. I've already heard that they were like, oh,
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: the tattoos were just having fun photoshopping. The tattoos aren't
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: on them. And it's like, really? Because you didn't say
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: that when you showed the photo to everybody. Oh, I
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: didn't see that.
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: No.
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: Harlequin's like actually.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: OK.
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: Anyway, point being, me and some some friends at a convention,
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: you know, we're like, you know, just talking trash about
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: that photo and stuff. And it was funny. I have
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: a friend who, you know, had an artist table. He's
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: doing his thing at the artist table, kind of drawing, whatever,
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: you know, kind of not necessarily looking up in a
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: weird way. You know, he's just doing his thing. And,
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: you know, whoever walked up to the table before he
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: could look up, you know, I was like, hey, so
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: what do you think of that Joker photo? And he
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: said that, like, thank goodness his head was on the
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: way up as he started to give his opinion. because
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: it was aquaman himself it was mamo like standing there
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: like hey buddy what you thinking that joker picture he's
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: like dude it's so neat oh you know he gave
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: him some kind of mediocre thing but it's one of
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: those things like knowing what he really thought is like
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: yeah i don't i don't know if i would have
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: told that dude right to his face either could have
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: been like well it's nothing compared to that aquaman photo
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: oh With your dreads and tattooed scales. He's still better
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: than the aqua. Never mind.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: He is a big dude.
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: That could be a bad segue. We don't want to
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: start DC bashing. It's not about that.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I will. Okay, because I wanted to bring it up
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: and because we're making fun of how much Patrick loves
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Superman and Batman.
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: Superman.
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: You bleed.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like.
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: You're gonna.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: Bitch.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I feel like, I don't know how much it was
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: conscious last time in the first Avengers, because I feel
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: like there was almost a specific difference in the way that,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: because I was, I remember in Avengers feeling so like,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: relieved that even in the middle of this giant battle
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: of New York, their main objective was protecting humanity. And
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: they spend so much time being like, all right, get
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: them out of the bus. Get these people over here.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Clear this street. Their job, number one, is protect humans.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: And then, okay, if we can kick some ass, that's good.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: But first and foremost, get these people.
• 47:45
  Speaker 9: Out of the way.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, the whole thing with the nuke. I mean,
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: the fact that they were, the government was willing to
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: nuke the city to end this thing. And they were
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: the ones that saved millions of lives and But that.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Was timed so close that maybe that just happened to
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: come out. But this one, being years later, I remember
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: so much backlash on Man of Steel that he did
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: not give a shit about people and they plowed through
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: building after building in that city and he could care
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: less he was throwing.
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: Them through the building it wasn't like it was just
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: him getting thrown he would like spin with someone and
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: toss him through a skyscraper like you just killed people
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: yeah you just killed that that's like a a biological
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: bullet you just shot through if it's going fast enough
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: to go through concrete windows steel you just threw a
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: human bullet Blindly through that building. You killed people. Definitely
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: killed people.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: This being so many years later and after all that
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: fallout that I'm like, I feel like they made such
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: a conscious effort to be like, look how much we're
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: trying to save people. Like, we're not stupid like Superman.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: We're like, I'm Iron Man and I'm getting these people
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: out of this elevator. As he looked to the camera
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: and saluted, God bless America.
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: I saved people.
• 49:01
  Speaker 10: So, yeah, I feel like there were so many moments,
• 49:03
  Speaker 10: especially in that big, in the Hulk battle, basically, where
• 49:06
  Speaker 10: they're just like.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: For God's sakes, protect people. You know, they were just,
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: it did seem almost like a conscious move.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: But one I approve of, actually.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: His first email son after that fight is to send
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: them money.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Again, I think it's Joss being smart about it. He's
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: just like, yeah, that's their job. They're heroes. That's what they're.
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: There to do. We don't need more anti-heroes dressed up
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: like good guys. It's like we've got plenty of that.
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: That's what really happened with Superman. He's kind of an anti-hero.
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: He's a dude with a great big ego that seems to.
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying Superman didn't care about his own life,
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: but in the comics, my impression was always that he
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: cared about the Earth a lot more. He would die
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: to protect it. Now it seems like he would fuck
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: up your semi over his ego in a heartbeat. He's
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: a dick.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: That was a douchebag, man.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: He was a Canadian douchebag.
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: It's a fine line.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I think back on the Like the old, which was it,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: three that he throws the guy into the pinball machine?
• 50:10
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: But that one's so lighthearted about it. It's so funny
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: at that point. And I guess it also kind of
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: helps because that Superman is so damn likable that it's
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: hard to be angry at it. It is kind of funny.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: He makes a joke that's been working out. It's just
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: funny at that point.
• 50:26
  Speaker 10: But I guess it's a fine line between messing up
• 50:28
  Speaker 10: that dude's track.
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: I think even as a kid, I feel like that
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: wasn't bad because he messed him up the first time.
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: He did beat the hell out of him. He did
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: kind of beat the tar out of you. It's okay
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: for Superman to throw you into a pinball machine.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm sure it didn't
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: feel good, but you didn't break anything. You were embarrassed.
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: He embarrassed you.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: He didn't beat you up.
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: He didn't take your... $ 20, 000, $ 30, 000 vehicle and toss it up,
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: you know, in the power lines or whatever he did
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: with it. I'm trying to shut it down.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: They stuck through the truck, man. Those trees had lots.
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: Didn't he wrap the wires? He fucked up the utility company, too. Yeah,
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: you just, some people don't have electricity.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: You know what? Canadians, and it's cold there.
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: And you know what, Superman? People died. Some old lady
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: who was like huddled up next to her floor heater
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: just died because of your ego over some waffles at
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: some little shitty diner.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: So, not to get too off on Superman.
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: Bashing. But, I mean, that was my thing. I felt
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: like it almost.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Was a very specific, okay, we don't want to do that.
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: Like, we don't want to be that.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I've specifically set up this universe and these heroes to
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: be just that. And I feel like he totally delivers
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: Like, it really is. In all fairness, like, the very
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: beginning of the first Avengers. I mean, when the Tesseract
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: starts acting up, the first thing out of Fury's mouth
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: is get everyone out of here. Like, that's their whole
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: thing is they're getting... You know, and that's the whole
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: drama where, like, he does choose to salvage the weaponry
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: or whatever, the alien weaponry, and they're all kind of
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: put out by that because they're like, screw that stuff.
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: People are going to die. And he's like, no, get
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: it too. So, I mean, you know, they did have
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: a lot of that in the first movie.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: But I feel like some of that stuff needs to
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: be there because it's realistic.
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: Because not that, I mean, S.H.I.E.L.D.
• 52:13
  Speaker 10: Is sort of a government agency, and he's still sort
• 52:16
  Speaker 10: of working for the government.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: So, like, they're going to be, I mean.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: That's kind of the cool thing that you see coming
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: to play in the Avengers when they're working on secret
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: weaponry or you get the Captain America two where they're
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: building this arsenal of weapons that can take out whoever
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: they want at any point. Like it is sort of
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: the government overstepping their bounds and like the government being
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: super power hungry and like having a little more power
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: than they need. So it is interesting to see that
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: sort of mentality and, butted up against like supernatural powers.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, but we have this power too.
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: And we're trying to do something good with it.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: So we need a little of that just to maintain
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: some sort of evil government realism, which we're obviously going
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: to get, not just our country, just people in general,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: that you give them that much power and horrible things
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: start happening.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: Going back to, you know, it was during the break,
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: but we were talking about the fantastic four a little,
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: just how I'm disappointed doom's kind of, falling to the
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: wayside how amazing would have been that first location they
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: would have went to would have been i felt like
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: that area that went to i think they mentioned hydra
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: while they're in that first place you know and stark
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: is finding all the weird computer stuff like there's a
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: part of me it's like this should be doom this
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: is one thing like you're in some weird country like
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: up in the mountains of these people with accents like
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: this is doomed it should be doom here like you
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: know yeah you made it hydra good for you but
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: if you guys would have implemented doom this could have
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: been like doom's layer could have been could have been
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: fantastic instead of a weasley computer hacker no i felt
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: like there was some it was much more story driven
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: this time yeah there was just you know because of
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: that big lull that happens after the very beginning like
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: you get just like crazy epic fight right out the
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: gate you know and it's like they chill out for
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: a while like a long while like 15 20 minutes
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: But it's like all of that stuff matters. It's kind
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: of like what I was saying earlier. It's like even
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: to the point where like when Thor, well, you know,
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: everyone kind of gets, you know, kind of dazzled a
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: little and has some stuff happen where they see some
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: stuff in their past and their future. That whole thing
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: with Thor like sets up his whole movie. Like going back,
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: you know, how this is going to set up the
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: Civil War movie. This is going to set up the
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: Infinity Wars movies. Well, it also, well, and it's going
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: to be setting up. everyone's movies really because even the
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: hulk might get a solo movie now yeah but the
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: way they ended this but the thor one that sets
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: up thor is like this whole thor ragnarok thing is
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: based on that vision he saw like that's why he
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: spoiler leaves at the end because it's like he realizes
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: after that he's got some shit he's got to go
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: take care of which will probably have to do with
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: another infinity stone but he's supposed to like go to
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: like to the demon dimension or whatever based on that
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: vision so there's a lot of stuff in there where
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: like you know maybe if you're not a comic geek
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: it might seem like pointless random details yeah but for
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: you know people that are dorking out to kind of
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: be into knowing his stuff like you i know i
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: didn't mind i i was conscious that the pacing had
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: really dropped but at the same time i was like
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: oh but this is like sneak previews this is like
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: hey guess what's gonna happen next guess what's gonna happen
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: next guess what's gonna happen next.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: They've decided to not even just make easter eggs anymore
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: but everything's so hardcore.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: They're just eggs it's not easter they're just eggs i
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: don't even feel like it drops is in a sense, like,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: like I was saying earlier, like, I feel like it
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: just continues that pace, because truthfully, that's what I said
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: about the Avengers the first time around, was the part
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: that I love the most is the part that is
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: so not what anybody, like, not what you would go
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: in for, everybody wants the big epic battles and the
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: cool action, sci-fi, fantasy kind of stuff, my favorite part
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: of Avengers is when they all get on that ship,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: And they're flying around for, like, 40 minutes.
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: And they're just talking. Taking shots at each other.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Taking shots. And I'm like, that is the movie. Like,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: the battle at the end is cool, but that is
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: the movie. That is the heart of that movie is
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: all of them being stuck together. All of them, like,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: just having, like, this battle of wills sometimes. And that
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: was always a big part of the comics. But weird camaraderie.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: That's when they're just hanging out.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: Talking shit. And honestly, I had it reading Anne Rice stuff, too. Like,
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: I kind of feel like in a way. vampires kind
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: of like superheroes in the same sense that like, you know, in,
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: in comics and stuff, you have all these great people.
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: And for the most part, you're probably reading, you know,
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: a comic about just that one person you're reading about
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: Peter Parker, you're reading about, you know, Clark Kent, you're
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: reading about whoever it may be. And it doesn't, it
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: doesn't resonate the same until they're around someone else on
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: their level. You know, then when Superman is next to
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: Batman and you're like, Oh shit, You know, what's going
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: to happen here? So I think, you know, comics in general,
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: it's like that when, you know, you put a bunch
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: of them in a room, you're like, oh my gosh,
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: how would these guys interact with each other? And I
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: think that's what Avengers did really well.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Just, you know.
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: Just so much. Joss Whedon is just so masterful with
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: his dialogue and his humor anyway. Taking those personalities, putting
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: them together, and just letting them go. I'd watch Improv
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: Night with those guys anytime. Just sit down and just talk,
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: and I'm going to be completely entertained.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Just like them being on the ship was the backbone
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: of the story that the other part branched off of.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: I think he was genius in this one, making the
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: backbone of the story. Basically, Hawkeye understanding that he sucks. Like,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: helping us realize that even Hawkeye knows that he's just
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: a shitty, worthless individual.
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: Can we get into the spoiler then? Because on that note, someone... Well, no,
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: I don't even have to make it a spoiler. Someone
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: does pass away in this movie.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: In Avengers 2?
• 57:44
  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm. Who?
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: Someone passes away, and I really... I just saw it.
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: After the movie was over... Were you not there?
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: I can't remember.
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: Are you being serious?
• 57:52
  Speaker 9: No, yeah.
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: I thought you were being sarcastic. You really don't remember?
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Cut it out. Who?
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: It's... oh okay sorry so i couldn't figure out why
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: this one kid and his girlfriend he flies away and
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: he keeps running into godzilla and the wife's oh oh
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: shit sorry sorry go back.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: I did think that was weird midway in it like
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: i guess i knew it but i forgot and midway
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: through they kept like brother and sistering it up and
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: i was just.
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: Like wait, that was just your wife last movie. No,
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: but you know what? It's okay.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: But you know what?
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: It's okay.
• 58:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: Cause they're kind of like Lannisters. They are a bit
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: more than brother and sister. So it was kind of okay.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: To, I mean, that's what she said. They were kind
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: of playing it like that. That like the way that
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: they teased it a little, that she like, well only
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: because they were so like, she, again, the Elizabeth Olsen
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: chick is so fucking awesome. So like the fact that
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: she puts this much in, like she wanted them to
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: have been like, we were abandoned by everyone.
• 58:48
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: All we have is each other so we're gonna be
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: so close.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: That it's kind of uncomfortable and she did a great
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: job so i mean there are a lot of scenes
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: where they're holding hands there are a lot and she
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: specifically was setting up so there are a lot of
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: scenes where it's shot so that one is looking over
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: the other shoulder gotcha that literally they've that we were
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: watching each other's back you know like they were she
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: was taking that much detail and putting it.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Into god joss whedon just let him do the rest
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: of the fucking movies it's killing.
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: Him that's why he's not real is this i mean
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: this one sounds.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Too much killed him like he's just like i don't
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: want to do things i'm just like I'm out.
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: Give it to JJ or somebody. Okay, give it to JJ.
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: You know, I really thought that with that backstory, not
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: that it's a backstory, but, you know, finding out Hawkeye
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: has a wife and kid and all that kind of stuff.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: That he sucks.
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: You know, again, like, I have too many thoughts at once. So,
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: you know, I was saying earlier, you know, this is
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: really a transitional movie in my opinion. The first Avengers
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: kind of felt like a conclusion in a way. You know,
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: you watch a movie and you were kind of like, well,
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: I don't really know where it's going to go from here.
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: You watch Avengers 2, and you're like, I know about
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: 10 different ways this is going to go from here.
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: There's a lot coming. And so with that said, I knew,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: I had read, I didn't get this from anybody, but
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: I had read that every phase is supposed to be
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: a different clique of Avengers. So going into phase two
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: like this, the team was supposed to change up. It
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: wasn't going to be Thor, Iron Man, Hulk, and Captain
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: America all the time, which is why we got a transition.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: That's why I really thought it would have made sense
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: if it would have been Hawkeye that just went home
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: instead of killing anybody. It used to be like, how
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: can I just go and, dude, I'm just a human.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: I'm really precise. I'm really good, but you guys are
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: going next level. I got a wife who's about to
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: have a kid. I'm going to go over here and
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: let's not kill off someone who was a huge surprise
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: that I really, really liked in that movie. I thought,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: I thought the new additions were fantastic. I thought Scarlet
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: Witch was awesome. Scarlet Witch was pretty sick. I really
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: wasn't sure if she was going to be good in
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: a movie.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: I think they were smart to kill off Quicksilver because
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: I think, and not that I like the X-Men movies,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: but I think the X-Men movies are going to take
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: their Quicksilver more. And I think it was very nice
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: of Marvel to say, you all are the shitty little brother.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: If that's all you've got, we're going to let you shine.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: Well, they've got to keep Scarlett with it. She's too
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: important to the bigger picture. Plus, if you're going to
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: release Vision in a movie, you need Scarlett.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: To get around, too.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, she's so huge now. I'm like, you don't
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: want to kill her off.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: How boss does she look in her final outfit, though?
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, she was pulling crazy off. Well, and after
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: that little... God, there's so many moments. When Hawkeye had
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: that little pep talk... What is it about slow motion?
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: When she busts the door out in slow motion, just
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: does that one shot off to the side without even looking.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my God, she's killing it.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: While we're here, because that's the thing. I specifically, as
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: we got to that little pep talk, it clicked and
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, do you know what this is?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: And it's funny because you're saying that he sucks. I'm
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: sitting there and I'm going, this is like.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: The Xander speech. Oh, wow.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 9: Nice.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: Did anybody watch all the way through Buffy? I'm watching
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: Buffy again right now. I'm in season two.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing it all, but I'm literally watching it again.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think it will spoil it because this is
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: all stuff that you know. Xander's a fuck up. Xander has.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: I just had the episode where like... They wouldn't let
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: him help.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: This one ends up with the zombie guys that bullied
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: him in school. And every time he runs into anyone,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: they're like, oh, no, we're good. You're going to get hurt.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 9: Go on.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: Like, I literally just watched that episode like three days ago.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: But as you go on, and it's, again, not spoiling anything,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: but everybody else that he meets, and even some of
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: the friends that he starts with, continue to become more powerful.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: And he, like, all of the Scooby group are, like.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Supernatural powers.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: Freaking godlike, yeah, creatures. And he's a guy.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: And so by the end, and I went and found
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: it because I was like, this is too close. I
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: was trying to figure out what it was that he said.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: And it's him like talking to Dawn, who's sort of
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: dealing with the fact that she's not a slayer and
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: she's not like, she's not, she's surrounded by all these
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: people that are trying to save the world. And like,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: I'm just a dumb kid. And his, like his thing
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: was basically like his comments about being surrounded by all
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: these amazing people is like, how much harder is for
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: the rest of us? And spending time with them, he's like,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: see my friends become more and more powerful. They will
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: never know what it's like to not be chosen, to
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: not be special. And it's like, he even specifically said, like,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: to live so near the spotlight and never be able
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: to step into it. And all of these are just like,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is Hawkeye. I'm like, this is the same.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: And it's Joss.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm like, he must be hitting that same, like,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: groove because it really is a thing when you're dealing
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: with with supernatural characters versus being friends with humans it's
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: like it's gotta be difficult and it really is interesting
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: that he's sort of trying to explore that and then
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: the more i thought about was like it's kind of
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: like his position too like as you get into these
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: it's like the writer director type person is the one
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: that takes on the brunt of all the work and
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: all of this and if it's awesome people love Captain America. People, like,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like, you're right there next to it.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: You're putting in all this work you don't get in
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: the spotlight. Like, aside from the handful of, like, super directors, like,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: how many people know who directors and screenwriters are? Like, nobody.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: So it's like, you're one step away. So in the end,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: if it sucks, it's your fault. But if it's awesome,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: it's the star's fault. Like, to me, it's like, you're
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: that same thing. Like, you're right there next to superstardom,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: but you're never really gonna get it unless you're Joss.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 8: Whedon, but.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: Even when you do make awesome movies, you still get
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: slammed on Twitter for being a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, whatever
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: all that drama is over the scene. I still don't
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: understand how all the character development he has given Black
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: Widow probably, I dare say, more than anyone else.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Definitely.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: Even though she hasn't had her own movie, between all
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: the movies, the character development you've given Black Widow and
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: that there is still... a group of ladies that still
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: want to say that he's misogynistic. Of all people, him.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: Is there anyone who's written more strong female roles ever.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: Than Joss Whedon? What's his infamous quote he gave during,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: was it after Buffy? Somewhere in there where someone was like,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: so why do you keep making all these things with
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: strong female characters? And he's like, so why do you
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: keep asking? There was something real witty he threw out
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: like that.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: No, his comment was basically like, I just write good characters.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: A lot of them tend to be female characters. but
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: that's not why I write them that way. Like I
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: write them because this is the story I'm trying to tell.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: These are the characters that I write. And a lot
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: of them happen to be female, but like, that's not
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: my starting point is like, let's have some bad-ass chicks. It's,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: this is the story I wrote. It just happens to be,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: you know, a lot. And again, that's kind of the
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: way you should write things at this point. We don't
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: need token characters. We need well-written real characters. And that's,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 10: Again, I think if anybody has shown people.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: That you can do that, And specifically in that first Avengers,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: she is the character that shines the most.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: I still go back to the first Iron Man. Second. No,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: I still go back to the first.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: With Scarlet.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: Where at the very end, she has a little fight
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: scene at the hallway when she reveals.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: That's the second one.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: Was it? I thought she showed it.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: It's the second one because that's when everything goes haywire.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they start working in way too
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: many Avengers plot tie-in points.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, even because, let's be honest. Let's be real honest.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: Hawkeye and Black Widow.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 7: Suck.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: Before these movies, no one cared.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, they were filler. You might find that dude
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: that liked them, but it's that dude that honestly liked
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: them because no one else did. Exactly. Just kind of
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: keeping it geek real. Like, these movies put them on
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: next level. Period. Black Widow was not important. I mean, yes,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: she was parts of plot lines and was usually a traitor.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: Usually, like, yeah, she was a big deal because she
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: just traitored. to Avengers, but she had not even a
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: hint of the level that she's at now. And that's
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: because of Joss. So being upset that... She's.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: Still dealing with the traitor in the background and stuff.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: It's not just a cheesy comic book plot point. She's
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: a real character and she's still dealing with that.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: She's not just a piece of hot Russian tale. She matters.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: She is.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: involved in everything more than any other superhero in these
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: movies and this little you know network of movies she
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: is more involved than any other individual i mean she's
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: been in iron man movies captain america movies avengers movies
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: because she's.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: That damn character that she needs to be like she's the.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: Best part of them she always has handled her own
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: Doesn't matter how bad scenes start with her.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: That's the thing that bothers me is when he talks
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: about women getting kidnapped or the people on the internet
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: were talking about women getting kidnapped. And I'm like, wasn't
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: she tied to a chair and answered a phone while
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: killing someone?
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: Wasn't that part of the plan?
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: Wasn't that part of the plan?
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: You can't tell me that there's ever been a female
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: lead this strong before. Who so much of the franchise
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: sits on. And she has no powers.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: It's like the scene with Loki where everyone was like,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: you know, oh, she got all girly and cried when
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: he started kind of like ripping her through the glass. Like,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: and that was part of the plan. She turned around
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: right afterwards and smiled like, oh, it's about Hulk.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Thanks.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: That's what I think is genius.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: Again, her being the kind of person that she is,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: it's like, it's not that, oh, no, being a woman
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Not only does it matter, she knows how
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: to fucking use it to her advantage. She is that
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: strong of a character. She's like, there are a lot
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: of people that she knows she can use that against them.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: And she does.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 10: And she just then takes people out in the process.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: Interesting side note for people that have not read the comics.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: The whole scene where they're all taking turns lifting Mjolnir. Technically,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: it was, I believe, a what-if comic.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: It is a what if.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: Okay, there was a what if comic in the Ultron
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: era where um she goes bad I believe I believe
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: she ends up helping Ultron she picks up Mjolnir whatever
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: happens with her power upgrade like she can actually pick
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: it up so I thought it was funny that she
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: didn't even try I almost feel like that was Joss
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: nodding a little like we all know who can really
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: pick this up so we're not going to do it
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: not that she could have in this story because it
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: was a what if comic but None of the other
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: guys have ever picked it up in a comment.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: My favorite was just the little movement we got for
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Captain America. And the look on Thor's face.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: That was awesome.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: That half second of Thor being like, oh, what do
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: I do when he does?
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: And then the elevator comment murdered me.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: It murdered me.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: But the elevator's not worthy.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: I love their bromance together so much.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: See, that's what I'm saying. All those scenes are, again,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: to me, what makes this movie. The party scene. is
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: like the best scene.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: Like, I know it's not a big dumb battle.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: I could care less. It's the most impressive stuff in
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: the movie.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: It's always got that really cool jacket.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: It's like the same, but different, you know, like I,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: I promise, you know, and I admit it because I
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: was the same way for me. Like, you know, in
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: the beginning of movie, it starts so hot and so
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: high that one day they chill out afterwards. It felt,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: it didn't feel like a letdown, but you know, you
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: feel that adrenaline going away. Like, Oh man, what just happened?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: but it doesn't matter when they start talking because the
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: writing is so good. Either, you know, the storytelling is
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: interesting because you know that these are little snippets of
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: what's to come or their humor is just killing it.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, just like he just, their humor is so good.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: What I was more impressed with is the fact that,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: I mean that first Avengers, we already have all those
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: characters that we're dealing with, but since then we've had
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: several other movies that have brought in these other characters.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: So now he's working in all these side characters from
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: the side movies and Along with the group that we're
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: already dealing with.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: So when you've got, like, the... I like how they
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: were arguing over their girls.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: They were like.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: Jane's better.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: That's so funny. I also like how the transition of
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: the individual characters is going over the three parts of
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: the bigger picture, the faces, right? Because just like Tony Stark,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: watching him from, like, pre-Iron Man... becoming iron man and
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: becoming powerful but then ptsd iron man yeah i think
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: is just phenomenal and seeing how that is going to
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: play into building civil war is that is the when
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: you step back it really isn't the fight for new
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: york or the big hulk smash scene it's those things
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: that are character driven and that's what will set marvel
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: apart from everything else because it has to be the
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: character story.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: I wonder if they'll put the put the glass in
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: his hand finally.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: I want him to so bad.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: Because in a comic, again, for people who don't know,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: he becomes an alcoholic. He can't deal with his stress.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: That's what they were supposed to do.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: With the first movie. And it was him, like, making
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: some bad mistakes drunk.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: We kind of get that in the second movie. I mean,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: his drunken ramble, like, it's like a light version of
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: it that he immediately comes out of. But I'm like,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: we kind of see him lose it and he's not
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: responsible enough to have the armor to the point that War.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 10: Machine's like, no, get out of it.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: I'm taking over.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 10: You can't handle this shit. So, I mean, we get
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 10: a light version of that.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: So, I don't know. To me, that almost, like, doing
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: it again would almost be rehashing and just dragging it
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: out into a longer version of it.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: I think Civil War is going to be a lot
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: different than the comic book and I'm excited about that.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 5: It sounds like they, you were, googling stuff on superman
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: earlier we were talking about how um the civil wars
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 5: movie like they've uh they've released a cast like they've
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: talked about yeah and like there's a lot of people
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: i was like surprising me like hawkeye is gonna be
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: in it hawkeye does come back at least for that
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: shut your dude i like this hawkeye as much as
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: i said no i have anything in the comic.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: I have to say i've hated hawkeye my entire life
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: and then hated him even more since the first movies
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: But Joss was absolutely genius to play off his humanity.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: And it really rectified Hawkeye, I think, for everybody.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 10: I think Renner does a really good job with him.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: He does.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 10: If they gave it to somebody else, he might be forgettable.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: He's such a little tort, but he does so good.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: And I liked him so much from 28 weeks later.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: And that was my first... I don't know if he
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: was even in anything else before that. That was my
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: first time seeing him in something.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: And.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 5: He was so endearing in that movie. When he died,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: I was really upset. Great spoiler, Jesus. Yeah, because you
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: didn't spoil anything about Quicksilver.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: We threw the spoiler away now. Oh, no.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: Civil Wars is going to be about the collateral damage, though,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 5: which is close. You can't do the epic level that
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: the comic was. I get that. I get this is
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 5: going to be a one-movie story arc. This isn't going
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 5: to be the earth-shattering thing it was in the comics.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: It sounds like it's going to be a one-on-one. They're
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: going to choose a couple people on their side. But
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: I think that's why we got S.H.I.E.L.D. That's why, again,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: going about how this movie felt like so much of
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: a setup for everything else, I think that very end
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: scene is blatantly to set up for Civil War. I
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: think it's almost going to be scene for scene attached
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: because you got Captain America declaring who the new Avengers are.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: He had that whole shot with a couple of roster changes. And,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, how hard is it to see the blowback when,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 5: you know, Wakanda or whatever the place that the country has, Autovibranium,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 5: that fight with the Hulk wrecked that place. That, you know,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: the whole thing at the end with the whole city,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 5: you wrecked that place. The UN or the world is
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: going to want something done. You know, there's going to be,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 5: you know, some serious, serious blowback after Avengers 2. And,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: you know, I get the impression it's going to be
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: something of an effect where, you know, now that S.H.I.E.L.D.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: is back, S.H.I.E.L.D. doing something where it's like, you know,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: you have to do exactly what we say at all times. And,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: you know, that's how issue one of Civil War started.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: It started with Rogers on a helicarrier. You know, Hill
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: turns around and is like, sign this paper. And he's like, no.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: And literally fights S.H.I.E.L.D., jumps off the helicarrier. That's issue one.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: And how did this end? Him at a new S.H.I.E.L.D.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: facility with new Avengers about to get the blowback from
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: everything they just did with Avengers 2. Like, I feel
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 5: like this segues perfectly into Civil War.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's, again, what I think has been so
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: well done with this whole, the whole series, at least from,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: definitely from Avengers, like from Avengers going into like Iron
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Man 3 and Captain America 2, you see like not
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: only the overall story changing, but the characters readjusting as
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: they go. So you get like the wormhole that opens
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: up and we're exposed to this other super powerful life forms.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 10: So then you see, you already see like S.H.I.E.L.D.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: Going, oh shit, what do we do? So we need
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: to use this to make bigger weapons so that we
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: can fight them. And then you see, even like you
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: get to like Tony Stark going, I can't stop all
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: of this. We need something bigger than me and bigger
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: than all of us. So you see like all of
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: this coming from like this whole arc, these last three
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: or four movies that have been like, we're watching all
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: of these people kind of readjust with these huge changes
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: that again, if, if it were done a little sloppier,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: but like none of this would all fall apart, but
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: it's all so smooth the way that everything sort of
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: falls into place as they go along. And like, everybody
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: is changing everything. because of these previous events and it's
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: not completely separate little movies it really is this overarching
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: story that's tying into all these points yeah.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 5: It's not just there's character growth it's not just these
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 5: static personalities that just get shifted around you know i
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: mean it's how you know it's like you know someone
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: that reads walking dead it's like you know if you
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: were to grab issue one again rick grimes you would
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: not even recognize that boy now compared to what you
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: read of him now. I mean, you're already getting that
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: from the movies. You go back and watch Iron Man 1,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: Captain America 1, Thor 1. These are completely different people already.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, remember how ego-driven Thor was in the first one?
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 10: Or Tony Stark.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 5: Tony Stark. But I mean, it's shockingly different to how
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: they are now. Especially Tony Stark.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Again, Thor's just i don't know thor's always like so
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: godlike that he doesn't factor in as much for me.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: I mean he's literally a god so it's hard to
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: He's always the one i'm least affected by but but
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: again like robert downey jr has done so much with
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: this what could have been a dumb comic book movie
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: yes he's turned in some pretty amazing performances he set the.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Bar so fucking high That it carried the whole goddamn franchise.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: It has.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: He created this franchise, basically. I think that's what DC's
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: recent casting with Suicide Squad was. It was like, hey,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: Will Smith. You know, hey, Jared Leto. It's like, you know,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: we need to take this serious.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: We need big names like that.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: Not that that's everything, but, you know, it doesn't. hurt
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 5: if you have people with charisma who can't act and
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: integrity like I'm not saying I honestly don't know I'm
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: not saying that Robert Downey Jr. has a stack of
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: Iron Man comics from when he was a kid but
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: I can tell he gives a shit I can tell
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: he's probably read shit.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: Now more than that I mean he lived that Like,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. Like, I think I've said that before. Like,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: that first Iron Man movie is his life. Like, it's
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: him being a party boy and losing everything.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: Losing everything. That's why it worked.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: And, like, he really, like, this is pretty mirror image to, like,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: what he went through.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: You need a Tony Stark getting fucked up and then
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: going home to the wrong bed. That's what you need.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: Well, and then watching this, like, to power becoming a
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: huge celebrity again so even when he gets to like
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Iron Man 2 superstar status that's what he was when
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: he came back to Hollywood he was like you're right
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: I'm a superstar I've been through hell and back and
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: I'm glad to be on top again and I'm gonna
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: like showboat as big as I can and I'm like
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: again I'm like this is just his story like I
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: feel like it's only these last two he's really kind
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: of started taking it to new territory because the other
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: two are so close to him that again it's kind
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: of perfect casting on their part and just him delivering
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: a good performance but yeah that was just so closely
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: tied to his own story that we were all a
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: little too familiar with probably for his comfort I.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: Can't wait to see like when Doctor Strange comes out,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 5: I'm real curious to see Edward Cumberbatch interact with these guys.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 5: Because he'll be all over Infinity Wars. He's a big
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: part of that. So it's going to be, it's just
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: never ending anticipation. Like seriously, if you're a Marvel fan
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: or now, it's never, even as you finish Avengers 2,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 5: you're still coming out just like, oh my God, Black Panther,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 5: Doctor Strange, Civil Wars. You know, yeah, and like, you know,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: that end scene. I mean, you watched after the credits, right?
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do it myself.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: What was with no double stinger?
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 5: What the hell is that about? You know, did you
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: wait for it?
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: Josh tweeted it. The people sitting in.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: The theater said, they said there's not anything.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: But we all sat there going, just in case, let's
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: sit here. I don't want everyone... He said something like,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: we couldn't do the shawarma scene again. It was too good.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: So he's like, I'm going to give you one at
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: the half credits and you can go home.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: But the one at the half credits is the same
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: one from last time. Yes.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: It's almost the exact same one from the first half credits.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: The first one, it was pun-tastic, though. Because the whole thing,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: they still haven't talked about it yet. But there is
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: kind of like the endless from Salmon. There's these more
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 5: God-type entities. And there is an embodiment of death And
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: it's a very attractive woman.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: And the universe.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: And Thanos is very, very much in, I don't know
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: what you're going to say, in love, but obsessed with
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: this very attractive embodiment of death. So if you recall
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: that clip at the end of the first Avengers, that
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: dude says to him, there's nothing here on earth. There's
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 5: only death. And that's when Thanos turns around like, oh, really?
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 5: You know, that's what that was. That was him like, death?
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 5: Did you say death? And this one is, you know, yeah, between...
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 5: you know, Guardians of the Galaxy and Infinity Wars on
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: the horizon now. It's officially going, look, he's fucking arrived.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: It's fucking time for you to watch Thanos. I mean,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 5: they edited him out of Guardians. Apparently, James Gunn filmed
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: quite a bit more of Thanos in Guardians, but I
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: guess the collective was like, let's keep him just a
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: little bit in there until he's going to be all
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: over two movies. Let's keep it live.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know they're smart to do that.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: Let's not overdo it this early on.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: I think the setup for Infinity Wars is going to
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: be pretty interesting.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: I think, It is something, whether movie people care about
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 5: comic books and geek stuff like that or not, I
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 5: don't think anyone can argue that this is going to
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: be historical. When has there ever been a time that
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 5: so many movies have accumulated to one focal point? I mean,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 5: by then, there would literally be what?
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: A dozen movies or whatever.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 5: At least 12 movies that all story-wise, character-wise, cast-wise... all
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: come together for this one... I mean, what do you
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: do after this? I feel bad for comic book movies
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 5: after this. After this is done and Infinity Wars is done,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: what movie is ever going to get you this excited again?
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: The scale is so big, it's almost like, what are
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: you going to do? You just won comic movies. Everybody
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 5: go home. It's over.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: We never have to make another comic movie again. I
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: really hope Civil War ends with them all broken apart, though.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: So they have to come back.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: Come back to fight Thanos. That'd be a good arc.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: Because, well, think about it. Because it's like, you're going
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: to have all these other people, Doctor Strange, that need
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: the limelight for a little bit. And it's like, do
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: we really need more Tony Stark? I mean, I want
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: more Tony Stark. Don't get me wrong. I want Iron
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: Man 4, 5, and 6. But I ain't going to
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: get it. So it's like, what if they break them
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: all up? And you get your Black Panther and your
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: Doctor Strange and whoever the fuck else.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: Ant-Man is going to be in it.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Ant-Man is going to be the best goddamn movie of
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: all time. Let's just throw that on the fucking ground.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 10: That trailer that opened before this when I'm just like.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: That train scene is where it's at right there.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: I'm still like it looks better than I expected. But
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: I'm still like on the fence.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just like. it could be good and then it
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: could really, you know, I mean, it could, it could,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: He's the domestic abuser though in the comic, right? Isn't
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: it Ant-Man? I don't know if it's the old one
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: or young one. I thought it was Ant-Man that beats
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: his wife. Oh, that's what bugs me about Ant-Man.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: That's the Michael Douglas character.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 5: So it's, okay. I knew that one of the Ant-Mans
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: beat on his wife a little and so I never
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 5: really liked him. I was like, I don't, I don't
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 5: want that in my comic books. I don't need that
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 5: in my comic books. I don't read for that.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: The other thing I was going to say that I
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: was so impressed with is, and again, even just growth
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: from one movie to the next, because in the first Avengers,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: how not only were they sort of bickering, but when
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: they would get out there and fight, most of the
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: time it was just them, well, literally they're fighting each
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: other halfway into the movie, but even by the end,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: they're all kind of doing their own thing, just like,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: here's my awesome power, and I'm going to use it
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: to take care of this guy.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 5: In this Avengers.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: the teamwork in Captain America is so amazing.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 5: He hit his shield like three different times. Like one
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 5: time he baseball hit it and just shot it around.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 5: One time he just hit it for the vibration. I was,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 5: I wanted Hulk to throw Thor or someone in the
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 5: worst way. I was like, please, you know, do that
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 5: Colossus Wolverine tag team. Someone, Hulk, pick up someone and
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: throw them at something, please.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: Just the fact that so many different attacks in all
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: of the battles, like the one in the beginning and
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: the one in the end, like, involves more than one
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: of the team and i'm just like that's so impressive
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: and again showing that they've kind of gotten over most
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: of their bickering amongst themselves and like they are a
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: team and they not only work together as a team
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: but they battle as a team and like that was
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: really well put together that that i don't know that
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: there was that much thought into even the physical attacks
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: that they.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: Were still working together definitely yeah i marked out for
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: Every single one of those. Every time he hit the shield,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 5: I made some awkward geek noise. I always have mixed
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 5: feelings taking my girlfriend to those.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: She's like, I'm out of here.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: One of these days, I'm afraid to just, one of
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 5: these days, she's just, I'm going to look over and
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 5: she's just going to be staring at me, not even
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 5: watching a movie, with just this weird look on her face.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: You're leaving me for Marvel.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 5: What am I doing? Thankfully, every time I geeked out
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 5: to that, she'd just be smiling too.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: I'm like, good.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: I'm allowed to be a super nerd for these two hours. Yeah,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 5: that was excellent stuff. Man, I mean, how about that
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: Hulk fight, though? We've been talking about everything else.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: It's been built up for a while now.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: They did a good job because of the buildup, I think.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: I think it was.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: Cool that they made sure that Bruce Banner wasn't involved.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: He even says, yeah, I know I helped build this.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: So it didn't because the way they were sort of
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: teasing it was almost like it was just Tony Stark going,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: one of these days he's going to go off. So
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: I do like that even Bruce Bennett, and again, showing
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: his character continually being like more and more paranoid of like,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: which all comes together in this.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 10: Like you do see it happen.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: And then I think that kind of goes into this
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: new like weird offshoot story for Banner that like he's
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: to the point now where, Not only does he, like,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think I can be part of the team,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think I can be part of humanity.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: Like, I have to isolate myself from the world.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: Did he go to an island or did he go
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: to space?
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 5: They didn't say. Okay.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: He was talking about the island midway in, but that
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: was when Scarlet was still attached. So when he took off,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: then it's like, now we don't really know.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 5: That's where, again, that's where, you know, with the whole
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 5: where does this go from here, it's not confirmed if
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 5: he's going to have his own movie, but the rumors
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 5: are circulating.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: That if he does have his own movie.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: You can go two routes with it. You can go
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 5: Planet Hulk, which would be real interesting to see in
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 5: a movie. I almost feel like it'd be like Guardians
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: of the Galaxy. It's going to be one of those
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: ones where it's like, this is kind of a unique story.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: You're going to have to really tiptoe to get this right.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: They're going to get in trouble if they do it, man.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 5: My thing is that scene in Infinity Wars is... afterwards
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: would be what's weird because Planet Hulk stuff happened after
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 5: Infinity War. So if you give mainstream audience that level
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 5: of growth for him to come back and be in
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: full control, you know, just be mentally sound and shit
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: as Hulk, that's kind of counter to some of the
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: main stuff that's going to happen in Infinity Wars because
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 5: Hulk's a big deal in the Infinity Wars.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to have that Hulk storyline
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: from the comic book Infinity Wars and Infinity Wars. I like,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: I have my own idea of what they should do
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: and they should just do it. And it should be
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: that he goes to space. He's a cameo in the
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: guardians of the galaxy. There was a rumor that though,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: like in that, in that time, he figures out how
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: to control the Hulk. And so by the time infinity
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: wars movie rolls around and they all come back together,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: that he can be like.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 5: Oh, that would, that would be kind of nice though.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 5: Like he comes back as planet Hulk, but he's always
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 5: been kicking it with the guardians for so long that
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 5: he's kind of, he's kind of still all right. He's not,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 5: Because he goes off and lands on this gladiator planet
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 5: and learns to fight with a sword and a shield
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: and he's wearing armor and he takes over the planet
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: and comes back to Earth with his whole army. But
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 5: that's where it gets weird because it's like Doctor Strange,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 5: Professor X, and a bunch of people are the ones
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 5: that shoot him out into space.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: That could go. Again, they would have to change just
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: enough that it could it could then make it work
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: in this universe, but it could potentially spiral off and
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: mess it up in changing it just enough.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: I feel like no Hulk movie has ever made it,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: and you have to be very careful when they're treading
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: on glory.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 5: I liked... Edward Norton.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: I like the Edward.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 5: Norton one a lot. I wish he wasn't.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: The people don't.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: Geeked out. Really? Did it not do well? Honestly, don't
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: pay enough attention.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: Nobody likes it.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: To me, he works.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: So well as the side character that trying to make
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: him lead again could backfire and be like, wait, why
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: did we like him in these other movies? Because it
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: went two movies and really nobody cared.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 5: And then Avengers, they loved him.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: So I'm just like, maybe that's his best place is
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: just keep him to be the big bad that you
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: bring in to kick everybody's ass at the end of
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: the battle.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 5: It's like, In every crossover animated film or comic book thing,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 5: anytime you put Hulk with someone else, it was always
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: the same story. Yeah, always. It was always the same story.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 5: It was just, you know, you're going to get three
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 5: quarters of this is going to be filler. At some point,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 5: Hulk's finally going to snap. Everyone's going to try to
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 5: beat him and not be able to do it.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: It's a Toho Godzilla movie.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: And we're going to bring out a girl to calm
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 5: him down. I forget what his girl's name was, but
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 5: that's how every single one ended. Every single one. You
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 5: could not beat him. They made it very clear. It's like,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 5: you know, Hulk versus Iron Man, Hulk versus Thor, Hulk
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: versus Wolverine, Hulk versus Spider-Man, Hulk versus the Avengers. It
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 5: doesn't matter. You can't beat them. That's why, you know,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 5: like I said, eventually Professor X, Doctor Strange, all these
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 5: people got together and shot him off into space. They're like,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: he can't be beat, period. He just gets more mad.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 5: He gets more strong, period. But I did like how
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 5: they kind of put Black Widow in that role, though.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 5: And that really changed, like, you know, since his girl
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: isn't in it.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: Which works so well with. what then becomes with their relationship.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: But it is nice that it worked kind of both.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 7: Of those angles.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 5: I wonder how far back that goes, though, because, you know,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 5: with her being the one that kind of recruited him,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 5: I wonder if it was that long term of a
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 5: plan where, like, you know, she's going to be the
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 5: one who goes get some, she's going to be the
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 5: one he kind of trusts first.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: Well, she's going to lead to this, which is going
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: to lead to that. He also totally attacks her. Like,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: that's the only, like, disturbing scene in that first one
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: is when, like, he goes after her and, like, that
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: like watching her kind of deal with like, that's the
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: point I thought we were kind of going to lose
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: her as like a character that always seemed to be
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: in control. That was the only time that she was like,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: I can't stop him. Like I can't do any. So
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: it is interesting to see again, sort of a character
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: growth that like by the second one, she is the
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: one that can, like she is the only one that
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: comes in and is like, hey, all right, let's take
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: it down a notch now. And she's gotten, again, she's
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: in control of not only how she is handling the situation,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: but is so in control, she's bringing him down. You
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: call it lullaby?
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I think we need a lullaby.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: I thought that was so well done.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: That was really well done.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 5: I've been saying, well, everyone's been saying it, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Hulk,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 5: these guys might not be strong enough to do movies
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 5: on their own. Black Widow is. Black Widow.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know about Hawkeye, but Black Widow is.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: I want like a Metal Gear Solid Black Widow movie.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: Why not?
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, but do that then. Do the Black
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 5: Widow movie.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you do it.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: Hawkeye shows up to help, and Hulk shows up to help.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, how?
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 5: Done. You got my money. I will go see it.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: If you do it as close to what they did
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: with Captain America 2, because you just make it very
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: real world. I mean, she's a human. She's an agent.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: Just send it in as a mission thing and have
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: her be badass for an hour and a half. And
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: you can work in cameos, but she is a strong
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: enough character. She can carry any plot like that.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 5: Because that'd be beautiful. Do Secret Wars and have Black...
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's espionage. That's her thing. Have it kind
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 5: of focus on Black Widow and Avengers eventually coming together
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 5: based on her story conflicts and stuff. That'd be awesome.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: I'm all for that. I'd have to go see it again.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: I do want to say on the Hawkeye thing, and again,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: we've already touched on that spoiler, but they so set
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: it up to off him right there. They pulled the
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: classic cop slash war trope of like, anytime you're like,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: it's the cop movie you're watching, it's like, man, one
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: week from retirement, sure hope nothing happens to me. Or
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: the Gear in a War movie. Here's a picture of
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: my girlfriend back home. I can't wait to get back
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: home with her. Ten minutes later, those guys are dead. So,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, as soon as they introduced the family
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: and the wife and that little lovely house.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: I was looking so forward to it.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: And he was like, I'm going to remodel this room.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, shit.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: That room's never getting remodeled.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, he is, they are, especially after his whole
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: speech of.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 5: Like, I'm a regular guy. Right. There's no hope for me.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm just like, oh.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 10: So, I mean, again, I almost have to give it
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 10: to Joss for pulling back.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: On that and being like, here's the fake out. you
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: think we're going to do what every other movie does. No,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: this young character that doesn't need to be killed.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 5: Screw it. That's how I operate.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: Like he will, he has no problem killing off characters
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: when he thinks they need to go.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 5: And like George R.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: Martin switched it up and was just like, Nope, this
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: is how we're doing things. So, I mean, I kind
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: of have to give him credit for not doing the
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: most cliche thing that he could have done.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 5: And let's talk about his wife.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 10: I've been saying forever, like, why is she not more stuff?
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 5: Cause she is so, that's, that's the girl from Freaks
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 5: and Geeks.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: And for years I've been like, why are the two
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: main kids who are so awesome in that show? They're
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: the ones that didn't become superstars. Like everybody else is
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: huge now.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 5: And then like, yeah.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, just seeing, I mean, she's, I think
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: I looked it up and she'd been doing some TV
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: show that I hadn't watched. So I just was missing
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: like her only other credit in the last few years.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm just like, all right, bring her into
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: more stuff.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 10: Because she was awesome on that show. I want to
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 10: see her get more work.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: That was just kind of an awesome little real world cameo.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, good. She's doing more stuff again.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: I'm still a big fan for Grandma's Boy. I still
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 5: think that movie's so good. But I mean, it's kind
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 5: of up my alley. It's a bunch of video game
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 5: geeky gamer kids. Geeks. But yeah, her being all blonde.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 5: It's good stuff. I didn't recognize her at first. I
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 5: remember getting, like, halfway through the movie, and it's like,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 5: where do I know this girl from? It took me, yeah.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: Like, she came up, and I'm like, oh, look, she,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: wait a minute. It was the second of, like, I
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: know her. Why do I know her? And I was like,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: because I did just look her up recently, and I
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: don't think I hadn't seen that she was in there, but, like,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: I'd seen a pic, because she was at, like, the
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: TV land, just gave, like, Freaks and Geeks a, like,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: an award. Like, it was some sort of, like, bring
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: the whole cast back together. And she, and I'm sitting
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: there going, is that her? Cause I hadn't seen her
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: in so long. Like she looks so different now from
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: high school that I'm just like, so I had seen
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: her just recently enough when they did that TV land awards.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: And I was like, no, wait, that is her. So yeah, she's,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: she just needs to be more stuff.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 5: She's awesome. I don't know.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: The only other thing I was going to go into
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: is the fact that they, again, it being so well
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: developed in the real world and the overarching story that,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: Because again, this is the kind of stuff you don't
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: see in dumb superhero movies. The fact that they are
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: concerned about what the press thinks about them. And we
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: started seeing that in Iron Man 2, where you see
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: him just eating up what a superstar he is. But
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: then now we see the backlash end of it. They're like, okay,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: not only did we just trash this town, but the
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: entire world saw it. And now we're going to have
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: to deal with all the negative, not just press, but
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: people are legitimately going to hate the Hulk, if not
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: all of us.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 5: I feel like it was tangible during the movie. I
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: feel like, again, that's why I think this leads directly
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: into Civil War, is that even though, as you mentioned,
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 5: they're constantly getting people out and stuff, there was a
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 5: part of me that's just like, when Iron Man has
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: Hulk and he's eyeballing that skyscraper, I'm like... You're going
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 5: to demolish a skyscraper.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: In development for this.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 5: You are about to obliterate a skyscraper in the middle
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 5: of a city that has not been evacuated for this.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, this has to lead into civil wars.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 5: This has to be... Like, they don't even.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 5: In the comic books, it was a school gets blown
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 5: up with kids in it. That was the final straw.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 5: You don't even need that, I think, right now. Between
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 5: these three huge, between New York, Wakanda, and wherever that
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 5: city was at then, that's plenty. The whole world is
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 5: definitely going to be mad enough to be like, you
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 5: guys need to step in line. Totally see that. That'll
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 5: help so much for a Civil War movie. Because you
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 5: don't have to establish that, really.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't need the first 40 minutes.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 5: We've built all that already into the series. You don't
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 5: even have to spend 40 minutes doing a dramatic, epic
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 5: loss with a bunch of sadness or something. It's like,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 5: we know, just have it be the backlash from Avengers 2.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 5: Be like, you guys killed this many people. You obliterated
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 5: this much people. It's like, you know, sign these papers.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 5: You work for the government now.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: Basically, it's going to be Gary Shandling sitting behind a
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: table going, you guys.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 5: Well, they cast, oh, what's his name? Is it Martin?
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 5: Who's the dude that played Bilbo? Oh, yeah. Sherlock Holmes with.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: Martin Freeman.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 5: He's a Civil War. Yeah. So I assume he'll be
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 5: a politician, government agent of some kind. She's saying.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: We know he's not a superhero. He's a hobbit.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 5: But they already got Peter Dinklage on the X-Men side. Like,
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 5: you can't get any smaller than that.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 8: Jesus.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 5: He's awesome.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: I love Peter Dinklage. We need that crossover.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: The Dinkster.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: So, I don't know.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, was there anything?
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 10: I mean, we didn't really even go into Ultron much, but.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: I hated Ultron.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 8: Really?
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a waste of time.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: I had a lot of people, you know, when I
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 5: geeked out after the movie, there was a lot of
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 5: people that I talked to, and I was just like,
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 5: Ultron was kind of a wuss. I was like, look, dude,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: he beat them in that first fight. Did you not
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: get that? Did you not get the part where they retreated?
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 5: They ran to Hawkeye's house because they got their ass kicked.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 5: It's like, he won that first fight.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: There were a couple parts of it. The Ultron thing
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: kind of let me down in three different areas. The
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: first one is the, I didn't like his mouth movement.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: And this is a more serious thing about how like,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: I I'm kind of let down that it's getting so
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: CG and I wish that they had like Iron Man
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: looked so good in the first and second one when
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: it was really just something that Robert Downey was wearing
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: with like, you could tell that like the big pieces
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: armor were real and there were little blue parts for the,
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: for the computer. And that's great. This is just like,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: what's the, who's fucking the guy from the episode three
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: fucking the robot from star Wars episode three.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: Grievous. General Grievous. Where it's just like, okay, so I
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: mean like.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 5: Where he just looks like a transformer.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's just like if I want to watch
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: a cartoon, I'll watch a cartoon.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: I want you to attempt to use some kind of
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: like a miniature or a something.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 5: I did just read that today.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: This has by far the most effects in any Marvel
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: movie ever. Yeah. Guardians had the closest.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: I see them gravitating away from the beauty that was
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: that first Iron Man film and that first Captain America
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, don't. It's so easy and I know
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: that it looks amazing but like, you all built this
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: whole thing on a foundation of good looking shit. Like
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: you could just CG Captain America's outfit and have the
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: green lantern.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: You could do it.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: And it would be, it would be cheap and it
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: would be easy, but everybody would hate you. The other
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: thing about Ultron for me was you probably felt this
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: with the comic books. I'm pointing towards David where when
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: the whole Ultron arc was building, um, it was what
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: we think of now as like the Thanos arc is building.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: Ultron building was the end of times and Ultron is
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: the greatest thing of all time. And I felt that
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: they did that really well with like the marketing behind
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: the movie. But then the movie came out and it's like, actually,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: and this wasn't bad, but like actually the movie is
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: about this character development and these people and their problems
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: and we're building up for civil war. And oh yeah,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: there's this Ultron.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: I feel kind of like they wasted Ultron.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: But for what they did, I do like the way
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: that they worked it in. It was good. I like
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: that it wasn't Tony Stark just being crazy on his own. Again,
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: I like that he's working with Banner. He's so convincing
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: that Banner's like, all right, fine. You're right. We do
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: need something.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 5: I like the whole mad scientist speech. Yeah, but he's right.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: Again, that's taking this universe and he's like, we need
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: a better plan and this could be it. If it
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: goes right, this is it. It didn't go right, but
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I do like the way that he built
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: it up and the reasoning behind it was sound enough
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: that you're like, yeah, it's kind of worth a shot.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: I think it was a good way of getting Vision
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: into the movie.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 5: I was going to say that ultimately, it's more like
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 5: Age of Vision than Age of Ultron. The other thing that.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: Bothered me about that is like, well, if you're going
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: to bring Vision into the movie and all the comic
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: book people know who Vision is, Vision can snap his
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: fucking fingers and Ultron's done. Or at least all Ultron's
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: minions are done. So like, are we bringing Vision in
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: just to make him a bigger deal in later movies?
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 5: Probably.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: But if you bring him in, like, fucking, you've got it.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: You've got Scarlet Witch and you've got Vision.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 5: The wars won.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know if they didn't give them the, like,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: list of magical powers, but you just won it all.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 5: There was this little comic book story arc called House
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 5: of M where Scarlet Witch had enough and essentially pushed
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 5: the great big reset button on the universe. Like, she is, like,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: Everything that Dark Phoenix was, everything that Professor X was,
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 5: she's that and then some. I mean, it was all
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 5: comic books being stupid and killing people off and doing
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 5: stupid stuff, and they need a reason to set everything
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 5: straight again. But she was the one that used to
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 5: do it, so she gets the credit. She was the
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 5: one that was strong enough to alter reality. I mean,
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 5: she's not just some little girl that just gets in
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 5: your head. But I thought it was neat that Ultron
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 5: was so much like Tony Stark. Yeah. I thought that
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 5: was kind of a neat twist on it where instead
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 5: of just being this kind of ambiguous Skynet in a body,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 5: it was more of like he was using his mannerisms
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 5: and he was talking like him and was like upset
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 5: about it.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: Unless you've seen the black one.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 5: Kind of shut it back to Blade Runner a little
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 5: to me. I was like the way he kind of
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 5: hates his maker and wants to kill his maker.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: What I thought was cool and it's very obviously considering
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: they quote it, but like the Pinocchio.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the Pinocchio.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: That was.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 5: That could have been really silly. It made me think
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 5: a little bit of the Itsy Bitsy Spider and Spider-Man 2,
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 5: but it worked here. I was like, this is really cool.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: I was like, number one, it's really convenient that you
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: guys just bought that company. The higher-ups making this movie
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: now own all of this property, so it's fine that
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: you use that reference. And second of all, I was like,
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: but damn, it kind of worked really good. Because it
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: really is this creature becoming a sentient being, and him
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: sort of dealing with that in the most messed up
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: way that he can, which is just start annihilating people
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: basically and, and becoming power hungry and that he can
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: create his own army in the process.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 5: And again, it's for, for what it did. I agree.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: It probably isn't as big an arc as it should
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: have been, but given that they don't have, again, back
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: to our reference earlier, they don't have 13 episodes to
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: stretch it out over. Cause that's probably what this could
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: have been.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 5: And it would have been awesome.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: Netflix series, which they've got three more coming, so we'll see.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 5: Well, they made their choice. They chose that Thanos and
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 5: Infinity Gauntlet is going to be the big one.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: It's a six and a half hour movie.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 5: Even though things like Civil War were huge and a
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 5: year long.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: If you had it written out on paper and you're like,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: we want to do Ultron, we want to do Civil War,
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: it's like, Thanos.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: And this was the fill-in, I think. I'm pretty sure
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: I read that they wanted to go straight to Thanos.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: And Joss said, we're not ready for that yet. We
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: need to get to it. let's go with Voltron now.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: Just let him run Marvel. He doesn't want to. It's
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: going to kill him.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 4: Do it.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: Who cares? He will die in glory. Are you kidding me?
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: People will know his name more than Gandhi.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 5: He's already a geek god.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: He is.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 5: Think of everything he did for TV. I mean, that
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 5: alone made him a geek god. And now what he's
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 5: done with Marvel.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: It's like.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: And the fact that he continues to do... Again, the
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: cast keeps getting bigger. He not only keeps.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 5: It all straight.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: but they all interact perfectly together. In the middle of
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: the scene with our old superheroes, you've got Falcon come in,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: and the back and forth with him and Captain are
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: so good.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: I hate Don Cheadle. I hate Don Cheadle. I hate
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: Don Cheadle. He was so good in this movie with
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: that fucking story, though.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: He's so much fun.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: It's all you need from him.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: I wish we could CG him back into the first
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: Iron Man, because now I'm just like, ugh. Nobody likes
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: that guy, including Robert Downey Jr. So I'm like, let's
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: just put Don Cheadle in all these now, which I
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: think that's kind of fun because even as Robert Downey Jr.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: is sort of backing out of this, we've.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 5: Still got Iron Man. I mean, War Machine is Iron Man.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 7: Come on.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: We still have Iron Man as the machine coming in
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: to do what Iron Man needs to do for the
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: practical purposes. Sadly, it's not Robert Downey Jr., but again,
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: we're still filling the void of Iron Man with what
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: is essentially Iron Man with a big gun.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 5: So I don't know.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: I think I'm more impressed with that, that not only
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: that cast from last time, but now expanding all these
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: side characters in and keeping it all not only straight.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 5: But well thought out, continuing.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: To like improve the dynamic between the characters and still
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: keeping the overarching story going.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 5: Like it's, it's so damn impressive, which is like, again,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 5: not to DC bash again, but on the flip, you know,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 5: The other thing, the other choice, the only other choice
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 5: would have been to kind of go what kind of
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 5: looks like a DC route of just introducing like eight
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 5: people in one movie. And just throwing them out there.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 5: Which one is going to work better? Like eight people
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 5: you've seen in eight different movies coming together or eight
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 5: people that show up at the same time and you
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 5: don't know jack about them. So yeah, that's like what
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 5: I've said before. I just said earlier, it's like in
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 5: movie history, like.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 5: How hard would it ever be to recreate this again?
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 5: What's even another story?
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: Another, yeah, another.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's not. Anything that you could do this with again.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, somebody.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: Eventually will come along and try to do.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 5: Something like this. I mean, the only thing I could
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 5: think of is, like, supposedly this next X-Men movie is
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 5: supposed to. Somebody would.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 5: I mean, I guess comic industry is really the only
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 5: thing where you really could.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: Just because there are so many people. Again, during the break,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: we had our offshoot Star Wars story. I mean, Star
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: Wars is a big enough universe. You could set up
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: so many little side movies and then by the end
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: have them all come into a big... I mean, there's
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: enough geeks out there. You could do another epic version
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: of this. This is a lot of movies, though. I
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: gotta say, this is a huge tie-in.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: I cannot wait for the DC box-out.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 5: I think when it's all said and done, it's supposed
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 5: to be 22 movies? Something like that. I'm gonna say
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 5: it's almost two dozen movies by the time Infinity War
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 5: 2 ends.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: That's a huge plan that's going pretty well so far.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: Billions and billions and billions of dollars.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 5: So I wonder if that means Avengers 3 is Thanos,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 5: because I just assume Infinity Wars, if you're doing two
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 5: movies of it, that it would be two movies of Thanos.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: It's Avengers 3 Part 1, Part 2, right?
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 5: Oh, is that?
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, it's both.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 5: I had that confused. I thought there was a Phase
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 5: 3 and then Infinity, but no, that makes sense then. Yeah,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 5: that's how it is. Yeah, so we are setting it
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 5: up now, aren't we? It's about that time.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: The next official Avengers phase is all of that.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 5: We've only seen three stones though. I believe the purple
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 5: power one and guardians, the yellow ones in vision. That's mine.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 5: And then the snippet at the end of one of
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 5: the Thors.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: No, the red one is in Thor 2, The Dark World.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 5: Is that the one they give to the collector? Because
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 5: at the end of one of the Thor movies, it
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 5: shows a scene where.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: So you've seen four. Because there is a snippet where
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: he gives two to the collector.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 5: Does he give two?
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: Okay. He gives two.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: And then one you don't see the powers for. And
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: that is the time stone, which will probably be in your.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: Is it Doctor Strange?
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 5: Because there's technically six though, right?
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: I have no idea.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 5: Because there's one on each knuckle, one on the thumb,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 5: but there's also one on the top of the hand.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: The gravity stone.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 5: Is that what it is?
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: I think so. So are you going to talk about
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: the left-handed glove right here?
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 5: That's what I was just going to say. If you
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 5: look in the Thor movie.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: The first one.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 5: Odin.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: Odin's brocade.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 5: Has the right hand. Odin has the right. If you look,
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 5: like at some point passing in a hallway, you see
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 5: the right-handed infinity gauntlet with no stones in it.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: It had the stones.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 5: It had the stones.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: It has the stones in it. Well, it has colors,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: and they don't look like stones.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 10: Just a place for those stones to go.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: Maybe it is, and people have speculated, but how much
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: cooler does it make Ragnarok sound when at the end
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: of this movie, not only is Thor thinking, hey, I've
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: got to go and figure out why these people think
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: I've killed them, but also, where the fuck.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: Is that glove?
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: And the whole, why would the ancient elders of the universe...
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: did they only have one hand? Why did they make
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: one glove?
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 5: They really love Michael Jackson.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: And like, what's going on with Loki being Odin?
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 5: Oh, we didn't talk about that. Loki had a scene cut.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 10: I heard they shot something and just took it out.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: Does anybody know what it is though? I'm kind of
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: glad he did because Loki gets a lot of play.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: Loki, as much as I like him.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: And I love Loki. Yeah, I love that character.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: See that, and that's what I was going to say
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: I think is an improvement with this is I think
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: we get a pretty, like at least, the James Spader
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: version of, again, whether or not the overarching story, but
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: I feel like he's a, he's a pretty decent villain
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: as far as just the way he presents himself where
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: Loki never really was. Like we almost didn't have a
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: villain in that first one. He plays both sides. He's
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: so likable in the way, again, like you forget that
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to not like him.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 5: He's Starscream.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 5: Everyone has read a comic, you know, every time he's Starscream,
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 5: he's going to take a shot at Megatron every, he's
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 5: going to be his yes man.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: All along, but in the end, he's going to try
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: to backstab you. So, yeah, it's like I felt like
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: we didn't. And then you get to the whatever those
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: aliens are that come in. That's always my knock on
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: the first one is like, I could care less about those.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: They're not characters. They're just something for them to fight.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: It's an awesome fight scene. But I'm like, I could
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: care less about those characters where at least I feel
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: like Spader does a good performance with it. And we
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: get a little bit of a real villain in this one.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see when we come around
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: to the third one. He's a real villain. Like, it's
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: going to be a real.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 5: With Thanos being, from what I can tell, completely CGI.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so disappointed.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 5: I really hope they change up somehow beforehand. I do, too.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 5: I hope that somehow before that last one, they get
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 5: a guy in an outfit that they can enhance that
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 5: looks at least close.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: Well, you know who it is. What's his face?
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 5: Oh, is he Cas?
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: Thanos is played by... Yeah, since the first one, he's...
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: No Country for Old Men. The good guy. God, who's
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: the guy?
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: Old boy remake.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 5: Oh, Josh Brolin.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: It's Josh Brolin. It's his face CG'd and his voice
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: and he does the whole Smeagol thing and acts with
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: the thing.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 5: So it is a physical person. It looks so CG
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 5: on me that I thought it wasn't even a person.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: It's his face taken and put into a computer and
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: then made bigger. You can see his face looks like
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: Josh Brolin, but it's CG'd.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: That's the thing I just heard that I didn't know
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: was that Spader was there.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Like he circused it.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: Like he was on set with giant like red balls
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: where the eyes are supposed to be for his character
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: doing the performance. I thought he just sat in a
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: room and did the voiceover later, but he was on set.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: That's the kind of shit that makes it. And that's
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: the kind of shit that I'm like, don't CG these people.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: Like Indiana Jones worked real fucking well. Not the fourth one.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: Worked real fucking well. And it's like, You don't need CGI. Okay,
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: when the Hulk transforms and when you throw him through construction,
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: we got a CG, right? When your arm's forced, but
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: for the most part, oh, for the love of God,
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: just make it. Like these Star Wars movies are looking
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: real good, and I bet there's some fucking sets, you know?
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: I bet there might even be little models at some point,
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: because that shit works. Just let the guy do them all, Joss.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: Joss, if you're listening, we'd really like you to finish
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: out the set.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: Get a fucking senzu bean.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: Eat that shit.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: Good to go.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: Why don't you become his personal trainer slash... I'll.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: Take care of you.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: All of your nutrition is.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 5: I'll be his master Roshi.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: I'll be his master Roshi.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: I'll give you the acupuncture and the herbs.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: Be in his corner to take care of him.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: I'll give you a room and you just go in
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: there and don't come out and write your little stories.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 5: I'll just feed at the end of the day.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: And on that bombshell.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: And on that. Just picture that, Patrick.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 5: Be prepared for some super fast, hard action. Like, seriously.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 5: I know I've said it like three times already on
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 5: the podcast. Probably a dozen off. But the action is...
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 5: There's so much going on.
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  Speaker 4: So much.
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  Speaker 2: It's too much action.
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  Speaker 5: It's so intense that.
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  Speaker 2: You have to watch it.
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  Speaker 5: I want to watch it.
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  Speaker 2: How many Avengers are there?
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  Speaker 6: Five?
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  Speaker 2: You got to watch it five times.
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  Speaker 1: I get on Blu-ray.
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  Speaker 8: Like, I.
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  Speaker 2: Stop, rewind, pause.
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  Speaker 9: Exactly.
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  Speaker 5: I will probably absolutely watch every chapter multiple times until
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  Speaker 5: I feel like I got it. Because there's so much
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  Speaker 5: great stuff going on. And where my eye was, I
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  Speaker 5: was very happy what I was seeing, but I was
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  Speaker 5: aware that there's like a third of the screen I
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 5: can't focus on at the same time. And there's so
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  Speaker 5: much great stuff going on.
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  Speaker 2: Even from the trailer, I thought the first Kung Fu
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  Speaker 2: Panda jump scene was going to be stupid. And it
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  Speaker 2: felt so good.
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  Speaker 1: Even knowing it's coming.
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  Speaker 10: When you're in the theater, yeah, you're like, what's going
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  Speaker 10: to happen?
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  Speaker 5: Even when it did it was funny like being in
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  Speaker 5: a theater and hearing like people audibly like you hear
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  Speaker 5: people like oh like you heard people like make noise
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  Speaker 5: to it and it's like how.
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  Speaker 2: Dumb is that but it's so marvel it's like did
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  Speaker 2: you see big hero six yes okay like the very
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: first scene when he's like trolling the guy and they're
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  Speaker 2: doing the bot fights and his little bot does like
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  Speaker 2: the marvel and you're like i'm like oh that's fucking
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  Speaker 2: awesome oh my god this just made the whole movie
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  Speaker 2: for me.
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  Speaker 5: At least it makes me think of Power Rangers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I see people do that kind of pose. I think
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  Speaker 5: Big Hero 6 can be in Infinity Wars.
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  Speaker 2: That would be sick if it was like Thanos had
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: them all dead and then that little guy.
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  Speaker 5: And he comes up and heals Hulk.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 5: And then Hulk beats him.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, my telemetry says that you have sustainable damage.
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  Speaker 5: Zero gamma rating. Camera rating 100%.
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  Speaker 2: Would this make you feel better?
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  Speaker 5: He gives him a lollipop.
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  Speaker 11: Right?
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  Speaker 2: We can jump out a window.
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  Speaker 1: Hulk likes lollipops.
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  Speaker 5: I think so.
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  Speaker 9: Alright.
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  Speaker 1: I think we've addressed our Marvel geekiness.
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  Speaker 5: I think geek out accomplished. Now I have to go
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  Speaker 5: see it again. Alright.
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  Speaker 3: Alright.
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  Speaker 5: Otherwise, that about does it.
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  Speaker 10: I'm sure this geek trio will return in the near future.
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  Speaker 1: But otherwise, we shall return. Same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 11: Let me show you a place where everything's wonderful.
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  Speaker 1: We never lose a girlfriend.
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  Speaker 11: Well, you gotta be hard if you wanna fight crime.
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  Speaker 2: My hair, my abs.
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  Speaker 11: Sometimes life gets dangerous when there's a new bad guy.
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  Speaker 11: But we're not scared, and I'll tell you why.
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  Speaker 10: Jarvis, drop a beat.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. That offends me.
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  Speaker 11: Let me show you a world that's always appropriate.
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  Speaker 1: Cause I got my special stretchy pants. Where the only
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  Speaker 1: romance I.
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  Speaker 11: Want is one dance.
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  Speaker 1: And he doesn't even get it.
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  Speaker 11: Where guys with goatees are friendly and science geeks are buff.
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  Speaker 11: No one needs a secret identity except like Widow who
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  Speaker 11: tears some bad stuff. There's no world like the Avengers
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  Speaker 11: where there's not much to avenge. Where radiation poisoning's a
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  Speaker 11: good thing and your wounds are magically mend.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to a world of civilians who are all in
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  Speaker 1: mortal danger, but you never really see any die.
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  Speaker 7: A world where Tony Stark created Ultron, because things are
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 7: so perfect that we gotta make our own bad guy.
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  Speaker 5: And yes, there are some problems with S.H.I.E.L.D.
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  Speaker 9: Not this S.H.I.E.L.D.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 5: But their cover-ups are.
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  Speaker 10: Sloppier than what's beneath this pack.
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  Speaker 9: Gross.
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  Speaker 1: So feast your eyes on a world so groovy that
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  Speaker 1: a female superhero can get her own movie.
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  Speaker 5: Guys, come on, you all have your own.
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  Speaker 11: Cause there's no world like the Avengers, where no one's
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  Speaker 11: really dead. We brought back Bucky, Bones, Coulson, Loki, and Fury,
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  Speaker 11: and fans don't feel misled.
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  Speaker 5: And this movie's not out, but.
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  Speaker 1: We've all signed for a third. So you can bet no.
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  Speaker 11: One's dying in the Avengers world.
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  Speaker 5: Because you can bet nobody's dying in the Avengers world.
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  Speaker 2: Excelsior.
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  Speaker 1: Cameo.
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  Speaker 1: Talk hard!