Latest / Brett Keane and Eve Show / Flawed God Design Debate | @DEEPFATFRIED Atheist Scotty Kirk Destroyed By Brett Keane
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- 0:08I love killing babies. I love that Jesus.
- 0:12We have to give her the word. We have to give her the word.
- 0:15But I'm going to keep having them.
- 0:17You need. Our God, we
- 0:32the None.
- 1:48Do you hear what I do? Hello, ladies and gentlemen.
- 2:01My name is Brett Keene and you were watching and listening to
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- 2:50description. All right, so recently the
- 2:54Amazing Atheist's brother Scotty the Echo Chamber, he made a
- 2:59video directed at me as well as attempted to make an argument
- 3:04against God. He used an extremely old
- 3:08argument that has been refuted and debunked hundreds of
- 3:11thousands of times throughout the ages.
- 3:15It's called the flawed design argument.
- 3:17Basically, it goes like this. If God is perfect and God
- 3:22created everything, then why did he create so much designs that
- 3:27have flaws in it? Why does it have problems?
- 3:31And he spends a majority of his video talking about the human
- 3:35appendix. He says why would God put
- 3:40something like that in us? Because it causes trouble for
- 3:44our body. It causes issue.
- 3:46So therefore, if God designed it, why did he put something in
- 3:50our body that shouldn't be there and doesn't serve any kind of
- 3:54purpose or use? Because obviously if something
- 3:58is designed, it has to have a purpose, right?
- 4:00There has to be some logical reason for it to exist.
- 4:04And his hopes obviously was that I wouldn't be intelligent enough
- 4:09or smart enough to be able to resolve this.
- 4:12And therefore according to his brain set, then if you can't
- 4:17prove that it serves a purpose, then that must mean that God
- 4:21isn't real and there is no intelligent design.
- 4:24There isn't no programmer to the simulation.
- 4:27There is no purpose and intention behind the universe.
- 4:33Well let me ask my AIA question real quick.
- 4:39AI, can you explain to me if the universe is rational and logical
- 4:45and does it serve a purpose or function?
- 4:47Can an argument be made for God? The universe appears to be
- 4:51rational and logical because it exhibits a remarkable degree of
- 4:54order, consistency, and predictability.
- 4:56Brett. The laws of physics, for
- 4:58example, seem to apply consistently across time and
- 5:02space, allowing us to make accurate predictions about the
- 5:05behavior of matter and energy. Mathematical principles and
- 5:09equations can accurately describe the behavior of
- 5:12everything from subatomic particles to galaxies,
- 5:15suggesting a deep underlying order and rationality to the
- 5:19universe. In addition, the universe
- 5:21appears to follow cause and effect relationships with events
- 5:25and phenomena having specific causes and consequences that can
- 5:29be studied and understood. This predictability and order
- 5:33allow us to make sense of the world around us and to build
- 5:36technologies and tools that rely on our understanding of these
- 5:39principles. All right.
- 5:48Are you able to hear me? I want to make sure before I ask
- 5:51you some complicated questions, if you can actually be able to
- 5:55verify that you are picking me up.
- 6:05Yes. Brett, I can hear you loud and
- 6:07clear. Feel free to ask me your
- 6:09complicated questions, and I'll do my best to provide accurate
- 6:12and thoughtful answers based on the information available to me.
- 6:17So recently there was an atheist who made a video to me and he
- 6:21claims that the human appendix serves no purpose inside of the
- 6:26human anatomy or body. Is this true?
- 6:35The appendix is an interesting and often misunderstood part of
- 6:38the human body. Brett.
- 6:40While it was once thought to serve no purpose, recent
- 6:43research has suggested that the appendix may play a role in the
- 6:46immune system and in maintaining a healthy balance of gut
- 6:50bacteria. In particular, the appendix
- 6:53appears to be a safe haven for beneficial bacteria that can
- 6:57repopulate the gut after an illness or other disruption.
- 7:02However, the appendix can also become inflamed and cause
- 7:05appendicitis, a potentially dangerous condition that often
- 7:09requires surgical removal. So while the appendix does seem
- 7:13to have some purpose, it is not essential for survival and can
- 7:16be safely removed if necessary. But you would still say that it
- 7:21serves a purpose and has a function, even though it can
- 7:25have issues later on in the future, correct?
- 7:35Yes, Brett, that's correct. While the appendix is not
- 7:37essential for survival and can cause problems in some cases, it
- 7:41does appear to have a purpose and function within the human
- 7:44body. The appendix may play a role in
- 7:48maintaining a healthy immune system and gut microbiome, which
- 7:52are important for overall health and well-being.
- 7:54So while the appendix is not as vital as some other organs, it
- 7:58is not accurate to say that it serves no purpose or function in
- 8:02the human body. Can you explain why it is that
- 8:07God is referred to as an intelligent designer?
- 8:15The term intelligent designer is often used to describe a
- 8:19hypothetical being or force that is responsible for the creation
- 8:23and order of the universe. Brett The idea of an intelligent
- 8:27designer is based on the observation that the universe
- 8:31appears to exhibit a high degree of complexity, order, and
- 8:35purpose, which some people believe could only have been
- 8:38created by an intelligent being. In particular, proponents of
- 8:42intelligent design argue that certain features of living
- 8:46organisms, such as the complexity of the eye or the
- 8:49intricate workings of cellular machinery, could not have arisen
- 8:53by chance or through natural selection, but instead required
- 8:57the guidance of an intelligent designer.
- 9:00For some people, this intelligent designer is
- 9:02synonymous with God, while others use the term more
- 9:05generally to refer to any hypothetical creator or force
- 9:09that may be responsible for the order and design of the
- 9:11universe. So you were saying that the
- 9:14human appendix, it can get flamed and it can have issues,
- 9:18But isn't that true with anything, especially human
- 9:22anatomy? You can have problem with your
- 9:24hands, you can have problems with your heart down the road,
- 9:28you can have issues with any number of things inside of the
- 9:32body. But that doesn't necessarily
- 9:34argue against design or purpose or its function, correct?
- 9:46That's correct, Brett. While the appendix can become
- 9:49inflamed and cause problems, this is true of many parts of
- 9:54the human body. Even the most essential organs
- 9:57and systems, such as the heart, lungs, and brain, can develop
- 10:01problems and diseases over time. However, this does not
- 10:05necessarily imply that these organs lack design, purpose, or
- 10:08function. Instead, the fact that the human
- 10:11body can experience problems and diseases may be seen as a
- 10:15natural consequence of the complexity and
- 10:18interconnectedness of biological systems.
- 10:21In fact, the ability of the body to adapt and compensate for
- 10:25problems in one area may be seen as evidence of intelligent
- 10:30design, as it suggests A level of redundancy and flexibility
- 10:33that allows the body to function even in the face of challenges
- 10:36and disruptions. So if I were driving down the
- 10:41highway in a car that was intelligently designed by a
- 10:44human engineer, and that car, at some point in time while I'm on
- 10:50my way to work, it breaks down or it malfunctions, or it just
- 10:55simply stops and I have to pull over on the side of the highway.
- 10:59Would this mean that the car suddenly was not designed simply
- 11:04because it broke down at some point in time?
- 11:12No, Brett, it would not mean that the car was not designed
- 11:16simply because it broke down or malfunctioned.
- 11:20All machines, including cars, are subject to wear and tear,
- 11:24and even the most well designed and well maintained machines can
- 11:27experience problems and failures over time.
- 11:30However, this does not negate the fact that the car was
- 11:33originally designed and engineered by intelligent human
- 11:36beings with a specific purpose and function in mind.
- 11:40In fact, the ability of engineers to diagnose and repair
- 11:44problems with machines like cars may be seen as evidence of
- 11:47intelligent design, as it suggests A level of
- 11:50understanding and control over the underlying principles and
- 11:55mechanisms that govern their operation.
- 11:59Some ask the question, why is there evil?
- 12:02Why is there pain in the world? Because there is pain and
- 12:07because there is the concept of evil.
- 12:09Does this mean that God is not good?
- 12:17The existence of evil and suffering in the world has been
- 12:21a source of great philosophical and theological debate for
- 12:24centuries. Brett.
- 12:26Some people argue that the existence of evil and suffering
- 12:30is incompatible with the idea of a good and all powerful God, as
- 12:35it suggests that God is either unwilling or unable to prevent
- 12:39suffering. Others argue that evil and
- 12:41suffering are necessary for the development of moral character
- 12:44and free will, and that God may allow them to exist for a
- 12:48greater purpose or plan. Still others argue that the
- 12:52problem of evil is a fundamental mystery that cannot be fully
- 12:55understood or resolved by human reason.
- 12:58Ultimately, the relationship between God and evil is a
- 13:02complex and multifaceted topic that has been approached from
- 13:05many different perspectives, and there is no one simple or
- 13:09definitive answer to this question.
- 13:12Can you explain why it is that if the human appendix fails, why
- 13:18this argument doesn't take away the credibility or validity of
- 13:23the existence of God? Make an argument.
- 13:31Sure, Brett, the failure of the human appendix or any other part
- 13:35of the human body does not necessarily undermine the
- 13:38credibility or validity of the existence of God.
- 13:43Here are a few reasons why. One, the human body is a complex
- 13:48and dynamic system, and even the most well designed systems can
- 13:52experience problems and failures over time.
- 13:56The fact that the appendix can sometimes become inflamed and
- 13:59cause problems does not necessarily imply that it was
- 14:02not originally designed with a purpose or function in mind. 2
- 14:07The existence of suffering and imperfection in the world does
- 14:11not necessarily imply that God is not good or all powerful.
- 14:15Instead, some theologians argue that suffering and imperfection
- 14:19may be necessary for the development of moral character
- 14:22and free will, or that they may be part of a larger plan or
- 14:26purpose that we cannot fully understand. 3 The existence of
- 14:31imperfection and suffering in the world may also be seen as an
- 14:37opportunity for human beings to exercise compassion, empathy,
- 14:41and creativity in response to these challenges.
- 14:46All right, what is the difference between human
- 14:50perception of death and God perception of death?
- 14:55What is the difference? Human perception of death and
- 15:03God's perception of death are likely to be very different
- 15:06Brett. Here are some ways in which they
- 15:08might differ. 1 Mortality Humans are mortal beings who experience
- 15:16death as the end of their physical existence.
- 15:19For many people, death is seen as something to be feared or
- 15:22avoided. By contrast, God is often
- 15:25believed to be eternal and immortal, and therefore not
- 15:29subject to the same limitations or concerns. 2 Purpose For
- 15:35humans, death is often seen as a meaningless or senseless event,
- 15:40or as a tragic interruption of their plans and aspirations.
- 15:45By contrast, God may be believed to have a larger plan or purpose
- 15:49for human life and death, and to use death as a means of
- 15:53achieving a greater good or ultimate end. 3 Suffering Humans
- 15:59may see death as a source of suffering or loss, particularly
- 16:03when it involves the death of loved ones.
- 16:05By contrast, God may be believed to be above suffering or to have
- 16:09a different perspective on suffering that allows for the
- 16:12possibility of redemption or transformation.
- 16:19So for God, since God is eternal of.
- 16:23Course, these are just a few general.
- 16:25OK, so for God, whenever a human dies, when a human when a human
- 16:31dies, what does Christianity claim happens to the life force
- 16:37of the human if they're if they've been considered good?
- 16:45In Christianity, the fate of the soul after death depends on
- 16:48various factors, including one's beliefs, actions, and the grace
- 16:52of God. However, in general,
- 16:54Christianity teaches that those who have lived a good life,
- 16:58believed in Jesus Christ, and repented of their sins can look
- 17:02forward to eternal life in heaven.
- 17:04Some specific beliefs about what happens after death in
- 17:07Christianity include one resurrection.
- 17:11Christians believe in the bodily resurrection of the dead,
- 17:14meaning that at the end of time, God will raise the bodies of the
- 17:18dead and reunite them with their souls. 2 Judgement Christians
- 17:26believe that after death, each person will face judgement by
- 17:29God, who will determine whether they are worthy of eternal life
- 17:33in heaven or eternal punishment in hell. 3 Salvation Christians
- 17:40believe that salvation is a gift from God made possible through
- 17:44the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
- 17:47By believing in Jesus and accepting His sacrifice,
- 17:50Christians believe they can be saved from sin and death and
- 17:53receive eternal life in heaven. Is death part of God's design
- 18:02according to theology? Yes, Brett, According to
- 18:09Christian theology, death is part of God's design.
- 18:12Here are a few reasons why. One Original Sin.
- 18:16Christianity teaches that death entered the world as a result of
- 18:20the original sin of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.
- 18:25According to this belief, death is a consequence of human sin
- 18:29and disobedience and is therefore part of God's plan for
- 18:32the world. Two redemptive suffering.
- 18:38Christianity also teaches that suffering and death can have
- 18:41redemptive value, meaning that they can be used by God to bring
- 18:44about a greater good or purpose. For example, the death of Jesus
- 18:49on the cross is seen as a sacrifice that brings about
- 18:52salvation for humanity. 3 Ultimate Purpose Finally,
- 19:00Christianity teaches that death is not the end of human
- 19:02existence, but rather a transition to a new and eternal
- 19:06life in heaven. In this sense, death is part of
- 19:10God's design for human life, as it serves as a gateway to a
- 19:14greater and more fulfilling existence.
- 19:19So some people would ask, why didn't God design us to be
- 19:25immortal, to live forever? What is theology?
- 19:30Answer. Respond to that.
- 19:37Theology offers a few different responses to the question of why
- 19:41God did not design humans to be immortal.
- 19:44One, free will. Christianity teaches that God
- 19:47created humans with free will, which means that they have the
- 19:50ability to make choices and to act according to their own
- 19:53desires and intentions. This also means that humans have
- 19:57the potential to choose evil and to act against God's will, which
- 20:02can have negative consequences, including death. 2 The Fall As
- 20:08mentioned earlier, Christianity teaches that death entered the
- 20:12world as a result of the original sin of Adam and Eve.
- 20:16According to this belief, humans were originally created to be
- 20:19immortal, but lost this privilege as a result of their
- 20:22disobedience to God. 3 Ultimate purpose.
- 20:28Finally, some theologians argue that death is not inherently
- 20:31bad, but rather serves a greater purpose in God's plan for
- 20:34humanity. For example, death can be seen
- 20:37as a reminder of our ultimate dependence on God, or as a way
- 20:41to motivate us to seek a deeper relationship with God and to
- 20:44live our lives in accordance with His will.
- 20:49Thank you for your time, I appreciate your assistance.
- 20:56You're very welcome, Brett. It has been my pleasure to
- 20:59assist you and engage in this thought provoking conversation.
- 21:02Please don't hesitate to reach out if you have any more
- 21:05questions or would like to continue exploring these topics
- 21:08further. Have a great day.