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Speaker 1: Welcome to Table Talk here at the Philadelphia Sports Table
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Speaker 1: podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly sports podcast show
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Speaker 1: in the world, over twelve years strong.
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Speaker 2: We got a great discussion coming your way.
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Speaker 1: It is a post mortem from not only the NHL Draft,
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Speaker 1: but this Flyers draft and what Danny Brier and company
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Speaker 1: did this past week and weekend.
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Speaker 2: There are new.
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Speaker 1: Talent coming to the Philadelphia Flyers in the future and
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Speaker 1: joining us. We absolutely love having her on the show
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Speaker 1: from Broadstreet Hockey dot Com. She runs the ship over there.
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Speaker 1: She's been a good friend here at the podcast for
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Speaker 1: so many years. Jumping on, miss Kelly Hinkle, how you doing,
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Speaker 1: Kelly good?
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Speaker 3: Really, you've been on for twelve years?
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Speaker 2: That's sick for freaking twelve years. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: We celebrate our anniversary in April. So I can't believe
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Speaker 1: the guys are still doing this with me too. I honestly,
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Speaker 1: Lenn can't commit to anything in life, and the fact
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Speaker 1: that he's still been doing it for over twelve years
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Speaker 1: it's astonishing to me. But anyway, it's great to see
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Speaker 1: you and I gotta tell you too, Like before we
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Speaker 1: like really dive into the draft, I thought it was fantastic.
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Speaker 1: I was listening to the phl Y podcast as I
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Speaker 1: usually do. You Charlie O'Connor and Bill match You actually
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Speaker 1: were talking to Rick Tockett after the draft, you know,
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Speaker 1: talking about the draft process, what it was like, you know,
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Speaker 1: as they were evaluating players, and you guys had a
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Speaker 1: great interview. I would really really suggest that folks listen
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Speaker 1: to that phly Flyers podcast with the three of you,
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Speaker 1: or I should say the four of you including Rick Tockett.
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Speaker 2: How was the converse? Like, how was that talking to
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Speaker 2: the new Flyers head coach.
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Speaker 1: He hasn't done anything yet at this point, there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of optimism.
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Speaker 2: How was it?
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Speaker 3: It was really neat, actually, and it was kind of unexpected.
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Speaker 3: We were actually supposed to talk to Dan Hilfredy Oh okay, yeah,
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Speaker 3: and then last minute they were like, uh, never mind,
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Speaker 3: you're getting talking and we were like.
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Speaker 2: Neat, okay, fine, you guys. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously it's it's cool to meet him. I'm
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Speaker 3: a big vibes person, and you know, to kind of
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Speaker 3: like get the vibe of what kind of guy he is.
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Speaker 3: I know that that people can be an authentic, but
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Speaker 3: I do kind of think it's difficult to kind of
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Speaker 3: completely shield who you are as a person when you're
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Speaker 3: talking to a group of strangers. Yeah, for twenty minutes,
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Speaker 3: and I got the sense that he is so no secret.
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Speaker 3: It's not who I would have chosen for the Flyer's
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Speaker 3: head coaching position, right, but you know, the second that
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Speaker 3: they made the decision, you know, behind it, I want
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Speaker 3: the Flyers to succeed. So you know number one Riptoka
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Speaker 3: fan here. But a lot of his answers I think
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Speaker 3: were a little bit more forward thinking than I think
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Speaker 3: you would imagine, a little bit more nuanced, Like he
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Speaker 3: seems like a very thoughtful guy. He seems to have
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Speaker 3: a lot of ideas about what he's going to do
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Speaker 3: with this roster and how he's going to maximize the
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Speaker 3: talent of you know, some of the guys that last
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Speaker 3: year didn't take the steps forward that we were hoping for,
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Speaker 3: like Tyson Forrester, Owen Tippett. We asked about them specifically
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Speaker 3: and it and it seems like he has put together
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Speaker 3: a team of assistant coaches that he is a lot
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Speaker 3: of faith in and also that it kind of seems
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Speaker 3: like he he thinks they're smarter than him, which I
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Speaker 3: feel like as a leader, like that's like a really
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Speaker 3: good way to build a team. Yes, to get a
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Speaker 3: bunch of people that you think are smarter than you.
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if it was your question, right,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I forget if it was your
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Speaker 1: question or Charlie's question. When he was at like right
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Speaker 1: at the start of the interview, was asked about Danny
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Speaker 1: Brere and just like, you know, because they had known
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Speaker 1: each other and and and do have somewhat of a
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Speaker 1: pass together, and he was trying to describe Danny Brier
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Speaker 1: in that way where he's like, you know what, and
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Speaker 1: even himself as a as a coach, he's like, you
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Speaker 1: want to put people around you that know more than you,
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Speaker 1: you know, yea, and that are better than you at
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Speaker 1: certain things, you know. And I thought it was really
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Speaker 1: honest of him saying that. I thought I and that
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Speaker 1: gave me a lot of hope for the future, that
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Speaker 1: he's a real guy, that he's going to be able,
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Speaker 1: he's going to at the end.
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Speaker 2: Of the day, be relatable to these players.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that like the worst thing you
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Speaker 3: can be as a leader is the type of person
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Speaker 3: that thinks you're the smartest guy in the room and
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Speaker 3: I do think that a lot of NHL head coaches
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Speaker 3: fall into that trap, particularly ones that have been around
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Speaker 3: for a long time. I mean a lot of people
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Speaker 3: generally fall into that trap. Whenever they get, you know,
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Speaker 3: a little bit of power, a little bit of authority,
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Speaker 3: they just start to assume that they know best and
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Speaker 3: they're the smartest guy in the room, and every decision
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Speaker 3: they make is infallible. And I really got the sense
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Speaker 3: that Rick Tucket is absolutely not that kind of guy.
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Speaker 3: And John Tortorella, while he was a nice guy, like
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Speaker 3: genuinely seemed like a nice man, I do think that
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Speaker 3: is particularly in his role as an NHL head coach.
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Speaker 3: I kind of got the vibe that he thought that
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Speaker 3: he was the smartest guy in the room.
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Speaker 2: Oh and he's putting his heels in and he wasn't
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Speaker 2: going anywhere.
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Speaker 3: That he made was the right one is the only
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Speaker 3: way to do it properly, And I think, I don't know,
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Speaker 3: I found it a bit refreshing to come away from
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Speaker 3: that chat with him thinking like, Okay, this guy probably
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Speaker 3: has some interesting ideas, and not only that, he's going
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Speaker 3: to be willing to listen to the people around him,
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Speaker 3: and you know, maybe implement some stuff that he didn't
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Speaker 3: implement in Vancouver or in Arizona, or as his time
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Speaker 3: as an assistant coach in Pittsburgh or whatever like it
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Speaker 3: just it made me feel better about the higher than
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Speaker 3: I did.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it made me as well.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, it's like I want I want this season to
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Speaker 1: get here sooner rather than later, just to see what
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Speaker 1: title she's really gonna be. But look, as we you know,
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Speaker 1: are reflecting on this NHL draft, this Flyers draft here, Kelly,
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Speaker 1: the last time that we talked was back in I
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Speaker 1: think like mid May, and I had asked you at
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Speaker 1: that point what your hope was for the Flyers at
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Speaker 1: the number six overall pick, and you know, let's just say,
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Speaker 1: you know you had mentioned and then I think the
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Speaker 1: consensus was leading up to the draft that we hoped
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Speaker 1: they would be able to pick.
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Speaker 2: A guy like James Hagen's.
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Speaker 1: He was and he was there at number six, and
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Speaker 1: they pressed on him for Porter Marton. So look, we've
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Speaker 1: heard what Danny Brieres had to say about Marton the decision.
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Speaker 1: Why we all know that I'm wondering as a as
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Speaker 1: as a fan, and as somebody who covers this team
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Speaker 1: as well, what are your thoughts about the pick and
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Speaker 1: what kind of player Porter Marton may be for this
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Speaker 1: team as part of this rebuild down the road.
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Speaker 3: So I'm pretty excited about it. Actually, I think that
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Speaker 3: it seemed like heading into the draft, the general consensus
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Speaker 3: seemed to be that Marton probably wouldn't be there, yeah
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Speaker 3: at six. I think that like most of the experts
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Speaker 3: assumed that he was going to be taken before six,
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Speaker 3: and then kind of like in the week leading up
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Speaker 3: to the draft, Anton Frondel seemed to like rock it
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Speaker 3: up to that third spot pretty quickly. Obviously you had
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Speaker 3: the Brady Martin thing happen. Yeah, you know, he was
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Speaker 3: taken before the Flyers could get to him. So I
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Speaker 3: think that, like I think, heading into the draft, I think,
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Speaker 3: at least in my mind, based on like conversations I
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Speaker 3: have with Charlie, reading mocks and things that the experts
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Speaker 3: had to say, it seemed to me like the best
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Speaker 3: case scenario for the Flyers was that they were going
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Speaker 3: to have the choice of one of like O'Brien, Porter
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Speaker 3: Martau or not Quartermarton sorry James Hagen's and then like
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Speaker 3: maybe Brady Martin, Like those were going to be the
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Speaker 3: ones that they were picking from, and in that situation,
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Speaker 3: I really wanted them to take Hagen's because he was
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Speaker 3: obviously the one out of those three that was going
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Speaker 3: to be the best.
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Speaker 2: And we're looking at the center position. Honestly, we're looking
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Speaker 2: at and.
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Speaker 3: You need centers, right, there's no denying that. But it
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Speaker 3: seems like Martone falling to them at six was a
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Speaker 3: little bit of kisnet because he's not Okay, he's a winger, yes,
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Speaker 3: but he also seems to be one of the best
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Speaker 3: playmakers and scorers in the draft. He seems to be
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Speaker 3: one of the guys that's closest to NHL ready yeah,
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Speaker 3: in this draft, which is cool. And we've been saying
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Speaker 3: all along that like, yeah, the Flyers have positional needs,
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Speaker 3: but they also just need talent. And I think that
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Speaker 3: I think that the wager is that Porter Martone is
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Speaker 3: a more of a sure bet on talent, high end talent,
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Speaker 3: than James Hagen's is. And then also on top of that,
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Speaker 3: the size thing. It was very clear if you look
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Speaker 3: at this draft, very clear that the Flyers were like,
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Speaker 3: we got to get bigger.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we're going to get into that for sure.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, porter. Marton's a big boy. Yeah, James Hagans
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Speaker 3: is not. And I wonder if you know, trading for
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Speaker 3: Trevor Zegers the week before might have factored into that, Like, Okay,
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Speaker 3: now we have Zegris, he's kind of a small center.
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Speaker 3: Now we have Luchenko, he's kind of a small center.
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Speaker 3: Like they were probably thinking like, do we want to
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Speaker 3: add a third small center, like even though he's definitely
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Speaker 3: going to be good, or do we want to take
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Speaker 3: this big wing who's also really really good. Like it
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Speaker 3: would be one thing if you looked at Hagen's and
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Speaker 3: Martone and you know there was a real talent disparity
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Speaker 3: between them, but there's not like Martone is just as
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Speaker 3: good or arguably better of a player, right, you know,
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Speaker 3: as a whole than Hagen. So the Flyers got a
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Speaker 3: really good one. And I think it's it's exciting. I
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Speaker 3: believe he was a Flyers fan when he was a kid, yes,
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Speaker 3: which is kind of neat, Like that's always that's always
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Speaker 3: fun for me. You know, he's not from here, but
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Speaker 3: he was a Funds.
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Speaker 2: Fan talking about coming up to a game and stuff.
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Speaker 2: That was really cool.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really neat. I's kind of love when that
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Speaker 3: kind of stuff happened. So I think it was a
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Speaker 3: really good pick by Brier and his team. I think
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Speaker 3: it's a kid that we're going to be really excited
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Speaker 3: about once we start seeing him on the ice. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and he seems you know, were the years last couple
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Speaker 3: we've had some I think anxiety about people wanting to
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Speaker 3: play here, right, I think he really wants to play here, So,
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Speaker 3: you know, that's also really good.
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Speaker 1: I think that was one of the best parts of
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Speaker 1: the draft in terms of the whole format, because the
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Speaker 1: NHL Draft format this.
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Speaker 2: Year, Holy Cow was really really rough. I was it
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Speaker 2: was so rough to get through. It really was.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm watching it on vacation and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I probably should be with my family here.
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Speaker 2: Kidding folks. I was with my family, but it was
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Speaker 2: it was rough. But that was that was like the best.
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Speaker 1: That story about how he and his family came up
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Speaker 1: to see a Flyers game, been a Flyers fan for
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Speaker 1: for his entire life.
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Speaker 2: It was great.
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Speaker 3: So quad Wall.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, Yes, absolutely.
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Speaker 1: Well, now let's get into their second first round pick,
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Speaker 1: Jack Nesbit.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 1: You know, I had this weird feeling that Nesbit was
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Speaker 1: going to be drafted by them. To be honest with you,
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Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be one of the
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Speaker 1: their later two picks. But then they they moved up.
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Speaker 1: They packaged those ladder first round picks giving them to
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Speaker 1: the Penguins, which I thought was interesting. Moved up to
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Speaker 1: did they move up to number eleven or twelve? I'm
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Speaker 1: forgetting it was twelve. Yeah, number twelve overall and has
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Speaker 1: been noted by our good friend Charlie O'Connor and other
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Speaker 1: NHL reporters and analysts there. There's definitely some big, big
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Speaker 1: upside with Nesbit, but his skating needs to improve. It's
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Speaker 1: probably the weakest aspect of his game. That's what everybody's
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Speaker 1: been talking about since he was picked by Danny Brier
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Speaker 1: and company. So what are your thoughts on how Jack
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Speaker 1: Nesbit coming to the Flyers in the first round, how
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Speaker 1: that actually played out, and your thoughts about the kind
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Speaker 1: of player he's going to be potentially for this team
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Speaker 1: down the road.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was a really interesting one. So we
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Speaker 3: were at our draft party, the Broad Street Hockey slash
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Speaker 3: phl Wy draft party. We had a pretty sizable crowd
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Speaker 3: and when the trade went down, like people were excited,
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Speaker 3: like people were pretty amped.
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Speaker 2: The energy level got up to hear, the energy level
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Speaker 2: got up to here.
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Speaker 3: Yes, especially I think because of two players in particular
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Speaker 3: that we're still on the board at that time, Kashan
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Speaker 3: Ahison and Jack Smith, both defenseman, both kind of predicted
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Speaker 3: to be taken kind of in that you know, ten
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Speaker 3: to fourteen range, and I think people were kind of
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Speaker 3: excited about the prospect of getting one of those guys
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Speaker 3: because you know, the Flyers could use help on defense too.
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Speaker 3: And then they take nesbit and kind of like the
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Speaker 3: the air kind yeah, yeah, yeah, because and here's for
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Speaker 3: me too, because it kind of made me think back
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Speaker 3: to the the the Jet pick, because that was a
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Speaker 3: guy that was not on anyone's radar for the Flyers
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Speaker 3: at thirteen the night of the draft. It's not what
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Speaker 3: anyone expected, and when it happened, there was kind of
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Speaker 3: just this like palpable like, well, what the hell are
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Speaker 3: you doing? Like what are you doing? Yea, why are
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Speaker 3: you making this crazy reach? And to be fair, Jet
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Speaker 3: was kind of a pretty substantial reach, I think consensus
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Speaker 3: wise like that that was definitely a reach. However, in hindsight,
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Speaker 3: like obviously we don't know for sure yet, but right
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Speaker 3: now it seems like jet Luchenko is going to be
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Speaker 3: a pretty effective any shell hockey player. And I don't
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Speaker 3: feel bad about that pick at all at this point,
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Speaker 3: and I would be surprised if other people still felt
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Speaker 3: bad about it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So that said, I think that for most people, like
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Speaker 3: casual fans, casual draftwashers, the people who just look at
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Speaker 3: rankings and mocks and stuff like that, they saw that
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Speaker 3: pick and they were like, this is not a guy
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Speaker 3: that I had in my brain, Like, this is not
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Speaker 3: a guy that I thought we were going to take
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Speaker 3: at twelve, Like what are we doing? This is crazy?
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Speaker 3: And honestly, that's kind of what are we thinking? I
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Speaker 3: was like, what are we doing? This is crazy? Like
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Speaker 3: why are we not taking Agisin like that? What's happening?
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Speaker 3: But then, you know, in the days following, I did
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Speaker 3: some reading and it seems like as far as as
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Speaker 3: far as like you know, like public draft people, like
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Speaker 3: you know, the the buttons, the prawn men's, like the wheelers,
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Speaker 3: like those kinds of guys that put out these mocks
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Speaker 3: over and over and over again, the ones that we
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Speaker 3: all consume most, it did seem like you said that
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Speaker 3: Nesbit was going to be kind of a late first
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Speaker 3: round guy. But when you kind of dug in more
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Speaker 3: to like Bob Mackenzie's ranking, which is more based on
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Speaker 3: what teams will actually do, it seems like Nesbit was
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Speaker 3: definitely ranked higher among league people, you know, the guys
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Speaker 3: making the picks he was. He was ranked higher amongst
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Speaker 3: those people that he was in the private rank or
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Speaker 3: the public rankings, like for example, it's Barry Trotz said
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Speaker 3: that they were trying to trade up into that range
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Speaker 3: and then the guy that they wanted to get was taken,
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Speaker 3: and so they stopped trying. And it kind of is
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Speaker 3: like assumed at this point that they were going to
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Speaker 3: take Nesbit ye if they were able to get into
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Speaker 3: that range. So I don't think it was as much
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Speaker 3: of a reach as people felt like it was. Night
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Speaker 3: of that said, it's definitely not a sure thing, but
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Speaker 3: his biggest problem seems to be skating, and the Flyers
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Speaker 3: have kind of proven that they can fix that, like
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Speaker 3: to a degree, Like Tyson Forster was a terrible skater
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Speaker 3: when they got it, they've fixed that pretty well. They
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Speaker 3: seem to be confident in their ability as an organization
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Speaker 3: to take a bad skater and make him into one
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Speaker 3: that's at least good enough to maximize his talent in
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Speaker 3: the NHL. So I think there's that part of it,
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Speaker 3: and then there's also like the obvious fact, like you
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Speaker 3: said at the beginning of this, the Flyers need centers.
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Speaker 3: They went into this draft. I think we all went
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Speaker 3: into this draft assuming that the top and targets were
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Speaker 3: going to be centers. So they obviously wanted to make
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Speaker 3: sure that they got out of that first round with
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Speaker 3: the guy that they wanted to get, yes, and that
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Speaker 3: was clearly Nesbit, probably because he's big. He's pretty big,
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Speaker 3: but he also seems to apparently have like a high
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Speaker 3: end skill set that's held back by the bad skating.
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Speaker 3: And if they can fix the skating, if that gamble
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Speaker 3: pays off for them, we could have a pretty solid
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Speaker 3: two C on our hands. That's good. The problem is
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Speaker 3: we still don't have a one S. A lot of
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Speaker 3: people Charlie O'Connor included, seemed to think that James Hagen's
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Speaker 3: was a shore fire one se. I think if he
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Speaker 3: was a sure fire one sea, like, would he have fallen?
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Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean? Like, why wouldn't somebody
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Speaker 3: else has taken him before he got to six. Like
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Speaker 3: that's kind of like my thinking on Hagen's Like I
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Speaker 3: wouldn't have been that if they took him, But I
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Speaker 3: am starting to doubt just how much of a sure
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Speaker 3: thing one see he is, given that you know, a
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Speaker 3: bunch of other teams passed on him as well, So
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Speaker 3: I think it's definitely a gamble. It definitely kind of
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Speaker 3: I think put a little bit of a damper on
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Speaker 3: the Flyer's first round draft for fans particularly, But I
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Speaker 3: don't know. At this point. I still trust Danny Brier
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Speaker 3: in this front office because I still have no reason
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Speaker 3: not to. So if this kid's a total bust, well
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Speaker 3: then we know that they made a bad pick. But
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Speaker 3: until he is, I'm going to believe that, like they
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Speaker 3: see something there and they think that they're going to
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Speaker 3: be able to get it out of him, and if
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Speaker 3: they do, then, you know, landing a really good two
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Speaker 3: see with the twelfth overall pick in a relatively weak
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Speaker 3: draft not a bad thing at all.
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Speaker 2: I agree, totally agree with you.
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Speaker 1: I I came away from this draft and we're going
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Speaker 1: to get into more of these Flyers picks. I came
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Speaker 1: away just good vibes. At the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: I really did. I came away from having good vibes
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Speaker 1: and knowing that there is a plan of action in place.
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Speaker 1: We haven't seen that plan of action in so long
19:26
Speaker 1: as fans.
19:28
Speaker 3: A clear plan, and it's like it's just so clear.
19:32
Speaker 3: Every move they make you can like see it as
19:35
Speaker 3: an incremental movement, movement forward in this ultimate plan, and yeah,
19:41
Speaker 3: it just feels really good to know that, like finally
19:45
Speaker 3: his organization. Will the plan work? Unclear? Not going to
19:50
Speaker 3: know for a little while. However, there is a very
19:54
Speaker 3: clear plan. And not only is there a plan, but
19:56
Speaker 3: it's like a plan that if you think it through
19:58
Speaker 3: to the end and work and it makes sense. Yes,
20:02
Speaker 3: and the moves that they're making are moves that will
20:05
Speaker 3: get us to that end. Hopefully it works. But right now, yeah,
20:12
Speaker 3: right now, knowing that the plan is in place and
20:16
Speaker 3: pretty much every single move that has been made has
20:20
Speaker 3: been a win, Yeah, it's hard to like, it's hard
20:24
Speaker 3: to not have faith in what they're doing.
20:26
Speaker 2: And at this point, I think Flyers Nation as well.
20:28
Speaker 1: That's the vibes I'm getting from the fan base, a
20:31
Speaker 1: fan base that is very segmented, a fan base that
20:33
Speaker 1: absolutely loves to be critical constantly of an organization, and
20:38
Speaker 1: you really feel the majority of folks just kind of
20:40
Speaker 1: gelling together after this draft to say, Okay, we're seeing
20:43
Speaker 1: some good things here.
20:45
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, look.
20:46
Speaker 1: Hey, we need to take a quick break here to
20:49
Speaker 1: pay some bills. And when we get back, we got
20:51
Speaker 1: more draft talk, got more flyers talk. Folks, stick around,
20:54
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.
20:57
Speaker 2: All right.
20:57
Speaker 1: We are back with our good friend from Broadstreet hot
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21:04
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21:11
Speaker 1: a lot of great content and a lot of great
21:14
Speaker 1: great Flyers podcast too. You got a Flyers podcast two
21:17
Speaker 1: over there too with our good friend Ryan Gilbert and
21:20
Speaker 1: uh yeah, doing good stuff, doing good stuff. All right,
21:24
Speaker 1: keep talking about this draft here, because I thought that
21:28
Speaker 1: Danny Brier was kind of surgical when it came to
21:30
Speaker 1: the second round when they drafted defenseman. I'm gonna mess
21:33
Speaker 1: his last name up because I constantly screw up names.
21:35
Speaker 2: Carter Amico, did.
21:37
Speaker 3: I say, Oh my god, I said it right.
21:39
Speaker 2: I can't believe it.
21:41
Speaker 1: I thought it was. I thought it was a really
21:43
Speaker 1: shrewd trade. They traded down to get the number thirty
21:47
Speaker 1: eight overall pick in the second round, moving back just
21:49
Speaker 1: two spots. Then they turned their third round pick into
21:52
Speaker 1: a late second rounder, jumping eleven spots in the process. Right,
21:56
Speaker 1: So this move essentially gave them back the second rounder
21:59
Speaker 1: that they give to get Trevor Zegress. And I guess
22:02
Speaker 1: the conventional wisdom, Kelly was that if Amiko didn't have
22:07
Speaker 1: that injury, likely would have been a first round pick. So,
22:10
Speaker 1: I mean, what are your thoughts on the Amiko pick,
22:13
Speaker 1: the first defenseman that they picked here in this twenty
22:16
Speaker 1: twenty five draft.
22:18
Speaker 3: I think it was, like you said, the move that
22:21
Speaker 3: he made to just move down a little bit to
22:24
Speaker 3: move up a lot later. Yeah, again, does another one
22:27
Speaker 3: of those Danny Brier moves where you're like, okay, surgical, Yes,
22:31
Speaker 3: he cooks a little bit, you know what I mean.
22:33
Speaker 3: He does stuff that's like unexpectedly sneaky and good. So
22:39
Speaker 3: that was that was cool just in and of itself.
22:41
Speaker 3: But Amiko seems to be kind of the logical successor
22:47
Speaker 3: to Rasmus or Salignin. Like he's very big, he's got
22:51
Speaker 3: a mean streak. He's a defensive defenceman. He's not an
22:54
Speaker 3: offense guy, and like you said, it was just that
22:58
Speaker 3: knee injury that kept him out for most of last
23:02
Speaker 3: season and as a result, he just fell out of
23:04
Speaker 3: the first round. It's an interesting pick to me because again,
23:14
Speaker 3: there seems to be a very clear agenda that would
23:21
Speaker 3: suggest that when this team is competitive. So if this
23:25
Speaker 3: is like if this is a Cup contending team in
23:28
Speaker 3: like three years, I think there'll be a playoff team
23:32
Speaker 3: before that. But like if we're talking like real Cup contention,
23:34
Speaker 3: probably like three if all things go well, you would
23:39
Speaker 3: hope that most of these kids are going to be
23:42
Speaker 3: ready by then, particularly because again they drafted big boys
23:48
Speaker 3: and so all of them are kind of physically ready
23:50
Speaker 3: already for the NHL. They're all big enough, so it's
23:54
Speaker 3: just a matter of developing the skill and you know,
23:57
Speaker 3: getting up to NHL speed and all that kind of stuff.
24:01
Speaker 3: It seems like they very clearly want to make sure
24:04
Speaker 3: that around the skill guys that they're getting, and they
24:08
Speaker 3: don't seem scared of small skill guys. Jentlu shan't go again.
24:13
Speaker 3: Not very big. Nietsch cough, He's thick, but he's not big, right,
24:18
Speaker 3: Trevor's negros obviously not big at all. Like they don't
24:21
Speaker 3: seem scared of the idea of having small skill guys.
24:25
Speaker 3: But also I think that, like the rest of the league,
24:29
Speaker 3: they took a look at what the Florida Panthers do
24:31
Speaker 3: in the playoffs and they're like, Okay, so when we're
24:35
Speaker 3: really ready to get there, we're gonna need some dudes
24:38
Speaker 3: that are willing to, you know, elbow the goalie in
24:42
Speaker 3: the head or take out somebody's knees or you know,
24:45
Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. Like, they obviously very clearly
24:48
Speaker 3: think that they need a little bit of big and
24:50
Speaker 3: a little bit of nasty, kind of in like the
24:55
Speaker 3: mid range skill wise, and I think that Amico seems
24:59
Speaker 3: to fit that bill perfectly. Like he's not just big
25:03
Speaker 3: and mean, he's also got some skill. But I do
25:06
Speaker 3: think that like they're looking down the line and Risto
25:11
Speaker 3: will probably not be here, and then like you have
25:16
Speaker 3: Hunter McDonald, but like, is he actually good? You know, unclear,
25:20
Speaker 3: Like he's definitely big, right, is he actually good? I
25:23
Speaker 3: don't know. Amico seems more like a shore fired bet
25:26
Speaker 3: to be a guy that can stick in you know,
25:30
Speaker 3: your bottom pairing in the NHL and bring that kind
25:33
Speaker 3: of nastiness that it seems very clear that the league
25:37
Speaker 3: has just decided collectively that we need to be dirty
25:42
Speaker 3: as hell in the playoffs in order to win the
25:44
Speaker 3: Stanley Cup. Hard to argue with a team doing it
25:48
Speaker 3: twice in a row. But you know, you could also
25:51
Speaker 3: just like call penalties, but I guess we're not going
25:53
Speaker 3: to do that exactly. Yeah, So, I mean it just
25:57
Speaker 3: seems again, like we said, like, there seems to be
26:00
Speaker 3: a plan. There seems to be like in place the
26:03
Speaker 3: idea of what this team needs to look at look
26:07
Speaker 3: like at the end of this and I think that
26:09
Speaker 3: a Mago fits that bill of just like we need
26:12
Speaker 3: to be a little bit bigger and a little bit
26:13
Speaker 3: tougher when we get to the portion of this rebuild
26:17
Speaker 3: that involves us competing for a Stanley Cup.
26:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
26:22
Speaker 1: It was such an interesting draft in so many different ways.
26:25
Speaker 1: And I'm also wondering too, like, and I know it's
26:27
Speaker 1: a general question, but I mean, are there any picks
26:29
Speaker 1: from this draft that you really liked? I mean outside
26:32
Speaker 1: of the draft picks that we've already talked about thus far,
26:34
Speaker 1: maybe like really liked or maybe really disliked. I mean
26:37
Speaker 1: another center they picked up in the second round was
26:41
Speaker 1: mech Matthew Guard. You know, they also ended up getting
26:44
Speaker 1: another center in the sixth round, Nathan Quinn. I mean,
26:47
Speaker 1: are there any guys that you liked did not like
26:50
Speaker 1: in terms of the pick where they were picked, or
26:52
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts here.
26:55
Speaker 3: I don't know that there were any that I actively disliked.
27:02
Speaker 3: I know it at broad Street Hockey there were a
27:05
Speaker 3: couple on Day two that kind of had the folks
27:10
Speaker 3: that I consider experts in the draft kind of being
27:13
Speaker 3: like kind I don't know about that. One one that
27:17
Speaker 3: I think is universally seemed to be liked both by
27:22
Speaker 3: the folks at broad Street Hockey and like Charlie Shane
27:25
Speaker 3: Van Sagi Okay to be a guy that people are
27:30
Speaker 3: pretty excited about. I know Charlie had.
27:31
Speaker 2: Him second folks, just to let you know.
27:34
Speaker 3: Yeah second, yeah, who plays I think for Michigan State.
27:37
Speaker 3: I think so, yeah, Michigan State. I know Charlie had
27:41
Speaker 3: him as one of the guys that he was hoping
27:43
Speaker 3: the Flyers would be able to land. I think in
27:45
Speaker 3: the late first round when we were thinking they we're
27:46
Speaker 3: going to be picking twenty second thirty first, So he
27:51
Speaker 3: seems like he's a lot of fun as a player,
27:56
Speaker 3: so that'll be interesting. It's just I kind of like
28:01
Speaker 3: it's hard for me to get super excited about draft
28:05
Speaker 3: prospects like the second after they're drafted, you know what
28:09
Speaker 3: I mean, just because like it's like it's like, you know,
28:13
Speaker 3: in the weeks leading up to it, we can all
28:15
Speaker 3: pretend that we know what these kids are going to be, right,
28:18
Speaker 3: I don't know what these kids are going to be.
28:19
Speaker 3: Like the only way you really know is, like, you know,
28:22
Speaker 3: the Islanders know that in Matthew Schaeffer they got a
28:27
Speaker 3: stud defenseman that they can build an entire defense around,
28:30
Speaker 3: Like they know that.
28:32
Speaker 2: Well, this is the part this is it's the draft.
28:36
Speaker 3: It's like you don't know, right, it's some of these
28:39
Speaker 3: kids are going to be busts. Yes, some of them
28:42
Speaker 3: are going to turn into something. I don't know what's what,
28:45
Speaker 3: but like I I just know that, Like if you
28:48
Speaker 3: look at what the experts grading drafts, everyone gave the
28:53
Speaker 3: Flyers an a a's A minuses. I think the lowest
28:56
Speaker 3: I saw was a B plus. So it's it seems
29:00
Speaker 3: pretty clear that the people who do this for a living.
29:02
Speaker 3: The people who watch tape on these kids and really
29:05
Speaker 3: study this stuff, they think Danny Brier did a great job.
29:09
Speaker 3: So like, who am I to argue with them at
29:12
Speaker 3: this stage of the game. You know, if if in
29:14
Speaker 3: three years Shane van Sagi can't crack an NHL lineup,
29:18
Speaker 3: then like maybe I could be like, ah, well that
29:20
Speaker 3: was kind of a bad pick, wasn't it. Yeah, but
29:22
Speaker 3: like right now seems good.
29:24
Speaker 2: It does. Right now it does seem very good.
29:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one of those times I know that
29:28
Speaker 3: you and I talk about this a lot. This is
29:29
Speaker 3: one of those times we're as a fan, you can
29:32
Speaker 3: choose to be optimistic and happy about what happened, or
29:36
Speaker 3: you can choose to be negative and pessimistic and think
29:40
Speaker 3: that they did a bad job. Because both of those
29:43
Speaker 3: outcomes are equally likely as we sit here today, So like,
29:47
Speaker 3: it's your choice. If you want to be excited about
29:49
Speaker 3: what has happened, you can be or you can you know,
29:52
Speaker 3: be a bummer about it because they didn't get James.
29:55
Speaker 2: Hagen to happen exactly.
29:56
Speaker 1: Well, it's a perfect segue into the next topic, you know,
29:59
Speaker 1: as we're reflect here on the draft too, because you
30:02
Speaker 1: know the I think the biggest theme, and I was
30:05
Speaker 1: whether I was asking Madeline Campbell from Broad Street Hockey,
30:08
Speaker 1: who came on talking to Charlie as well recently getting
30:12
Speaker 1: his thoughts too about you know what we wanted the
30:15
Speaker 1: theme to be from this Flyers draft. And I think
30:17
Speaker 1: the biggest theme coming out of this draft is that
30:19
Speaker 1: Danny Brier in the front office they wanted their prospects
30:23
Speaker 1: to be a lot bigger, which is what we're we've
30:25
Speaker 1: been talking about as well. So many of these draft
30:27
Speaker 1: prospects are well over six feet two at this point here,
30:31
Speaker 1: I mean, and who knows, maybe maybe some of these
30:33
Speaker 1: kids will still continue to grow.
30:35
Speaker 2: We don't know.
30:36
Speaker 1: I mean, this draft was a defining moment for Danny Brier,
30:39
Speaker 1: and I think we also have to realize that as well,
30:43
Speaker 1: Like you were just saying, some of these picks are
30:45
Speaker 1: going to come to fruition in various ways. Some may flop,
30:49
Speaker 1: some may be better than we expected on draft night itself.
30:53
Speaker 1: But the vibes that you're talking about, and and just
30:57
Speaker 1: I guess to talk about it one more time before
30:58
Speaker 1: we get to uh, Trevor Zagris, because I want I
31:01
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about him, get your thoughts there, But
31:05
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, what are the vibes that you
31:08
Speaker 1: now have after this draft? You know what this moment
31:11
Speaker 1: actually means for this Flyers organization overall? I mean pretty
31:14
Speaker 1: positive from what you're saying here.
31:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's really hard for me to look
31:20
Speaker 3: at what has happened over the past season and not
31:24
Speaker 3: be excited about the future of this team, just because
31:28
Speaker 3: while every single move might not have been the move
31:31
Speaker 3: that I would make if I were GM of the Flyers,
31:35
Speaker 3: I don't look at a single one of them as
31:37
Speaker 3: objectively bad. Like there has not yet been a bad
31:41
Speaker 3: move made by Danny Breer. Be it like a trade
31:44
Speaker 3: where they're just getting rid of guys like Faribe and
31:47
Speaker 3: frost yep trade where they're bringing in a guy like
31:49
Speaker 3: you get Trevor's Negres for essentially Ryan Paling and that's it.
31:56
Speaker 3: This draft again, Like, I think that the Flyers should
32:01
Speaker 3: at this point always be prioritizing high end talent. They
32:05
Speaker 3: obviously were prioritizing size, but also with talent, Like I
32:10
Speaker 3: don't think they took anybody in the Brady Martin vain,
32:14
Speaker 3: which is to say, a guy that is questionable on
32:19
Speaker 3: the talent side of things, but definitely big and mean.
32:23
Speaker 3: They didn't do any of that, Like they took guys
32:26
Speaker 3: that they think are going to be good hockey players
32:29
Speaker 3: that are also big, and that kind of prioritization I
32:33
Speaker 3: think is important because in the past, I think the
32:36
Speaker 3: Flyers had a tendency to just go big, Like I
32:40
Speaker 3: always think back to the Samaran Like that pick was
32:44
Speaker 3: insane start to finish. The only reason they took him
32:48
Speaker 3: is because he was really really big, and we.
32:49
Speaker 1: Saw what he did in the AHL at the Fantoms,
32:52
Speaker 1: you know, we saw what they brought him up to
32:54
Speaker 1: and just the lack of being able to really develop.
32:58
Speaker 2: We saw it.
32:58
Speaker 3: And he had, you know, a lot of injuries that
33:01
Speaker 3: of course hamper him a lot. Thing you can do
33:03
Speaker 3: about that. But at the end of the day, when
33:07
Speaker 3: they made that pick on draft day, they were making
33:10
Speaker 3: it simply because he was large, and that's not really
33:14
Speaker 3: a good reason to draft anybody. But in this draft,
33:16
Speaker 3: the Flyers seem to be prioritizing a combination of talent
33:21
Speaker 3: and size, and I think that's good. And you really can't,
33:25
Speaker 3: I mean, you really can't succeed in the NHL if
33:30
Speaker 3: you're just small guys, and the Flyers have been like
33:34
Speaker 3: I said, they don't seem to be scared of small
33:37
Speaker 3: talented guys, and they've been going out and getting some
33:40
Speaker 3: of these small talented guys. So yeah, eventually you are
33:44
Speaker 3: going to have to fill in with some big dudes,
33:47
Speaker 3: and they seem to take the approach that, like, okay,
33:50
Speaker 3: rather than going out and finding like a big fourth
33:53
Speaker 3: liner in free agency in two years that we can
33:57
Speaker 3: use to plug a hole, maybe we draft and develop
34:01
Speaker 3: some big guys that might also have some upside on skill.
34:04
Speaker 3: And I think that that's a fine gamble to take. Yeah,
34:08
Speaker 3: it's the theme for the team very very clearly was big. Yep,
34:13
Speaker 3: every kid they took pretty much was big. I think
34:15
Speaker 3: they only took one guy that was under six feet tall.
34:19
Speaker 3: But like I said, I don't look at any of
34:21
Speaker 3: those picks and see just big, which I think for
34:24
Speaker 3: a fan like me that wants to see like the
34:28
Speaker 3: exciting high end skill that the Flyers have been lacking
34:31
Speaker 3: for so long, not a lot of these kids are
34:35
Speaker 3: going to bring high end skill. But like, you're not
34:37
Speaker 3: going to get a lot of high end skill in
34:39
Speaker 3: the second round unless you get super lucky fires took
34:42
Speaker 3: a bunch of kids in the second and third rounds
34:44
Speaker 3: that are big and might be good, and I'll take it. Yeah.
34:49
Speaker 2: Good vibes. Good vibes for sure, exactly, Kelly.
34:52
Speaker 1: Before I let you go, you know, we'll end our
34:55
Speaker 1: discussion by you know, diving into the Trevor Zagris pic,
34:59
Speaker 1: which you know, we still haven't been able to talk
35:01
Speaker 1: about on this podcast show because of our schedules and
35:03
Speaker 1: vacations and things like that. But Danny Brier, I mean,
35:06
Speaker 1: he also you know, took a big swing on Zagres,
35:09
Speaker 1: acquiring him right before the draft, and it was kind
35:11
Speaker 1: of nice to see Flyers Nation again kind of like
35:15
Speaker 1: after this draft basically at a consensus with this trade
35:20
Speaker 1: to say, you know what, this is a damn good move.
35:23
Speaker 1: This is a really good move for the future.
35:25
Speaker 2: Of the team.
35:26
Speaker 1: I mean, for the most part, everybody has basically loved
35:29
Speaker 1: it from what I've been reading. I mean, of course,
35:30
Speaker 1: you have a few negative Nelly's here and there. What
35:33
Speaker 1: did this move mean for the Flyers organization is we're
35:36
Speaker 1: now looking to see, you know, how these pieces of
35:39
Speaker 1: the rebuild are really trying to take shape like a
35:41
Speaker 1: puzzle here.
35:41
Speaker 2: What are your.
35:42
Speaker 3: Thoughts, well, I think it was kind of like the
35:48
Speaker 3: textbook move that I wanted to see from this off
35:52
Speaker 3: this front office, because they do need top line talent. Yeah,
35:58
Speaker 3: without question, specific one C. And it's really hard to
36:04
Speaker 3: get those guys, Like those guys don't really get traded, Like,
36:07
Speaker 3: no one's trading you, Nathan McKinnon, Right, no one's trading you,
36:10
Speaker 3: Connor McDavid, Like you're not going to get the sure
36:14
Speaker 3: thing guys in a trade. You can probably get one
36:19
Speaker 3: at the tail end of his career in free agency.
36:22
Speaker 3: That's one option, or you take a risk on a
36:28
Speaker 3: reclamation project, which is exactly what Trevor Segras is. The
36:32
Speaker 3: high end talent is unquestionably there. Like we saw it
36:38
Speaker 3: for two It wasn't just like a one season aberration.
36:40
Speaker 3: We saw it two seasons from him ye when he
36:42
Speaker 3: was very young, that he can be a very very
36:46
Speaker 3: good center in this league. The Ducks kind of fell
36:51
Speaker 3: apart as an organization. Their coach is apparently a nightmare
36:56
Speaker 3: like towards times ten, just like a terrible guy to
37:00
Speaker 3: play for. They moved him to wing. I'm assuming because
37:05
Speaker 3: of his size and he is not a winger, and
37:10
Speaker 3: I think that the Flyers clearly believe that he is
37:12
Speaker 3: a center. Like everything that they've said since they traded
37:15
Speaker 3: for him was seemed to suggest to me that they
37:17
Speaker 3: think this guy is a center. At the very least,
37:19
Speaker 3: they're going to give him ever up every opportunity to
37:21
Speaker 3: succeed at center. So this is the kind of move
37:25
Speaker 3: where not only are you able to get a guy
37:30
Speaker 3: that potentially could be the one see that you're looking for,
37:34
Speaker 3: but you're able to get him for practically nothing because
37:38
Speaker 3: you were willing to be patient and kind of outweight
37:43
Speaker 3: the teams that you're dealing with, which which Breer has
37:46
Speaker 3: done before. He did it with Scott Lawton. Yes, he
37:49
Speaker 3: got more for Scott Lawton than I think the Bruins
37:51
Speaker 3: got for brad mar Shamp.
37:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy, simply.
37:54
Speaker 3: Because he was like, no, no, no, if you want
37:58
Speaker 3: to give me a first overall or if you want
38:00
Speaker 3: to give me a first round pick, you can have him,
38:02
Speaker 3: but otherwise no other gms that might have been like
38:06
Speaker 3: all right, I'll take the second. Brier was like now
38:07
Speaker 3: I'm gonna wait, and he ended up getting what he wanted.
38:10
Speaker 3: He like these Zebra's rumors have been around for at
38:13
Speaker 3: least like a year. Right, We've been hearing about the
38:16
Speaker 3: possibility of Zebras coming to the Flyers, and clearly Brier
38:21
Speaker 3: was waiting and waiting and waiting for the moment at
38:24
Speaker 3: which he could get him for Ryan Paling. Like listen,
38:29
Speaker 3: no shade to Ryan Paling. I really liked him as
38:31
Speaker 3: a player. He was a very effective and fun fourth
38:35
Speaker 3: line center, but very clearly a fourth line center, like
38:39
Speaker 3: not anything more than that.
38:40
Speaker 2: Right, And you.
38:42
Speaker 3: Traded him and a couple of late picks, which, as
38:46
Speaker 3: you said, you ended up getting back one of them.
38:48
Speaker 3: Yea for a guy that could potentially and probably more
38:54
Speaker 3: than like a fifty percent shot at him becoming your
38:57
Speaker 3: one seat for the next ten years because he's like
39:00
Speaker 3: twenty four, you know what I mean. Like everything about
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Speaker 3: this move is good, and like you said, I didn't
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Speaker 3: see a single and this is really hard to come by.
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Speaker 3: I didn't see a single negative reaction to this trade
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Speaker 3: on social media, Like everybody was like oh okay, like yes,
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Speaker 3: that's that's that's very good. I mean, everything about it
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Speaker 3: is low risk. He's got one year left on his contract.
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Speaker 3: If this is a disaster, then you let.
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Speaker 2: Him there you go.
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Speaker 3: If it's like only a little bit good. You could
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Speaker 3: probably sign him for a pretty decent price and hope
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Speaker 3: that he still turns into the guy that you want
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Speaker 3: him to be. If it's really really good and you
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Speaker 3: have to pay him a lot of money, good problem
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Speaker 3: to have in my opinion. So there's there's just a
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Speaker 3: lot to like about that deal. I would love to
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Speaker 3: meet someone that didn't like it. I would just like
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Speaker 3: to hear the reasoning behind not liking it. But like
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Speaker 3: you said, it was one of those rare moments when
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Speaker 3: every single Flyers fan was like, hell, yes, this is awesome,
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Speaker 1: And it shows what it shows what Danny Prayer has
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