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EP152 - Death Becomes Her · Thirsty For More - Movie Review

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  I need the goal. Hello everyone, and welcome to Planet Bruce. Before
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  we start the show today in earnest, I'm going to sit down with a
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  friend of the show, Dylan Barry, Dylan Son of a Bitch, to
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  talk about this movie, to kind of interview him about why he likes this
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  movie and like get his insights, because you know, this is a movie
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  he expressed that was pantheon for him, and I feel like I wanted to
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  know more about that and see if I could use that conversation to kind of
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  help frame the conversation I was going to have with Alex afterwards. So I
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  hope you guys enjoy this little introduction with Dylan, and we'll see you on
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  the flip side with the full episode with Alex and I talking about it.
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  No, but why I bring up Moonlighting is I think that Death Becomes Her
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  is the closest to Moonlighting in terms of his performance. Like it's really because
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  it's it's it's I don't think of Bruce Willis as a comedic actor. Yeah,
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  he's a brilliant comedic actor and he has impeccable comedic timing and you can
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  see that in Death Becomes Her that like and Moonlighting was all about wait was
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  he No, he wasn't. I don't think he was a straight man.
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  I think believe Sybil Shepherd was a straight man in that. But it just
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  there's something about the two performances that it reminds me of. I feel like
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  he's channeling himself from Moonlighting, even though the character is completely different from one
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  another. So is that I'm maybe I'm making random connections that make no well
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  so, but this is this is why you're on today. We're here to
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  talk about Death Becomes Her because, like I, Alex and I are trying
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  to pilot this thing with where we want to do like corners with people,
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  you know, people who seem to express an emotional reaction to like a certain
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  movie. And it feels like, you know, you have a couple that
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  you wanted to talk about, but it seems like you were like, hey,
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  death Becomes Sir, that was one that like stuck out to the first
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  one. Yeah. Maybe maybe that was just because I was going chronologically in
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  my well, but what do you What is it about this movie for you?
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  You know, it's so many like there's the there's so much about this
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  movie that's great. Um, all three of the stars deserve oscars for it,
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  like that obviously wouldn't happen, but like they're all phenomenal in it,
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  not a single performance as a waste. The special effects are phenomenal. And
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  to see computer like nowadays you can kind of see it and look where you
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  can see the computer stuff, but like those are brill Like the shot of
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  her coming out of the pool and then the hole is in her body and
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  the water comes out of her body looks that looks you could you could put
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  that on a movie right now and no one would fucking complain about it would
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  be like that looks amazing. Like in fact, people might be like charmed
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  to see something like that. Again, there's a style to it, there's
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  a ton mean to like the special effects. There's it's it's it's interesting to
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  see Robert Zemeckis use his love of special effects for what is essentially a women's
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  picture. It's about two women who are being cattied to each other, who
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  fucking ruin each other's life, like and it's dynasty. That's you know,
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  it's so feminine, it's so like female, and it's a way more about
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  their relationship than it is about their relationship to he's incidental for the plot,
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  like he's there and again he's the straight man in the situation. You need
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  that. Like he gets manipulated by both of them. So he sucks so
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  much in this movie, knows like, and I'll argue, I'll even argue,
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  like it sucks in what way? Oh, his characters just kind of
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  a little shit like come on you, like just leave, like just fucking
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  leave you, stupid fucking guy being manipulated by these two like kind of a
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  world. Well, yeah, he's such a sniveling. He's a sycophant,
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  like yeah, as soon as one of them tells him, like, hey,
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  go murder her or she's He's like, yeah, I'll go murder,
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  Like what the fuck? And I do think that that is actually, now
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  that I think about it, it's like, I think that's what I like
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  about his character. And at the end, because he's sort of like he
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  finally isn't a fucking piece of shit. At the end, he immediately goes
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  like, no, fuck you, I'd rather die than me around you and
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  fucking goes for the suicide, survives and fucking lives a great life, Like
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  it's actually good for him for changing. But but that's not even the story,
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  right, Like that's not even a fucking movie. Yeah, and they
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  just get really good at working with car pain. Yeah, it's so just
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  like, oh my god, there's just there's something really what it does really
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  well, especially the makeup and their performance is like there's such a creepy,
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  uncanny valley ness that comes to their makeup when they like when they come back
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  where you're just like this is like when both of them are going him,
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  They're like yeah, yeah, like that is such a creepy image staring at
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  him. That is such a fucking horrifying image. Like well and speaking to
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  the like looks in this movie, you know this movie, like I can't
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  talk to you without talking about drags. Oh yeah, like hig high drag.
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  This is I think, like what I said earlier, I mean,
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  this is one of those this is a what I like to describe like a
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  gay movie for heterosexuals. Can elaborate what other movies are heterosexuals movie for and
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  I threw out Missus Dolf definitely hoterosexuals. Um, I'd argue the Simpsons episode
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  with John Waters in his games. No, it's just things that are like
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  extremely queer. But it's like not queer that people didn't make this and it's
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  not really four queer people, but it uses a queer aesthetic too. It
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  uses queer aesthetic. And yeah, um, I'd argue a lot of fucking
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  Oliver Stone's career is queer movies for heterosexuals. Natural Born Killers is a queer
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  movie for heterosexuals. There we go. That's a movie with a queer aesthetic
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  that is not queer as fuck. That is a straight ass heterosexuals really great
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  point, Um, come on the whole. Like they open it like the
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  fucking sitcom Rodney Dangerfield opening like very good. That's high drag. The mom
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  has blue fucking hair, like one who like so but but but but this
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  movie, what did you think? What did you think of the drag in
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  this movie? And like even the way they kind of like have this friendly
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  combative relationship, like it's like a camaraderie of friend of me situation, not
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  even like the Dragon It is like they're both drag queens and like like they
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  are two these are two sisgendered women drag queens. There's no there's no question
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  about no question about that. And I'm not sure if you know this,
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  but there's a documentary about Jinks Monsoon called Drag Becomes Him. Yeah, you've
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  watched You've seen him, And like, I kind of love that they bring
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  that up in it where Jinx is just like I was talking about watching like
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  Death Becomes Her at like six years old on repeat on VHS because that was
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  one of her pantheon movies and being like, wow, I should not have
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  been watching this movie, but you know, I like I'm here for it
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  because it's kind of like you know what, like the cartoonishness of it,
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  any sort of like if a child can deal with the creepiness of it,
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  it's just going to be a cartoon, you know. Like, Yeah,
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  I mean I think I would have no problem showing this movie to a child
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  of my child that I had the right, Yeah, that's strangers. I
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  wouldn't go up. Well, I think I think it's interesting, you know,
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  like there's obviously a lot in there, like Jinks watching this movie,
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  Like she wasn't only watching this movie for you know, I'm sure like a
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  young Jinx was watching this because this movie is gay and like or like or
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  like feels like there's like a there's that embrace of high camp glamour. It's
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  still like an embrace of like sociopathic women fucking doing their thing and being like
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  yas queen, like you know, and the evil woman thing, which is
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  like you know, like Alex kind of like rolls his eyes at like the
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  Disney queer coded characters. I hate it, And it's like, no,
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  I got it. Yeah, I know that it's like a trope and it's
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  annoying, and Alex hates like annoying tropes. But it's like, yeah,
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  dude, but you don't know exactly what it's like to not be represented at
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  all. Well you know what I mean, Like no, no, And
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  I actually don't disagree with him at all in terms of that, but I
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  don't disagree with you at all, you know what I mean, Like to
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  watch this movie and like you can sort of like, yeah, you shouldn't
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  be watching this movie as a kid, But like I feel like queer people
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  can understand and couch things, and because they know they're not being represented,
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  they understand that the like the over the topness is part of it, right,
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  like, and so that that's kind of like that's actually the funny thing
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  about Bruce Willis's performance of it, And like with the clips I was watching
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  yesterday at the movie I forgot how like over the top and cartoonishy, isn't
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  it? Oh like and he's the straight man. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  that's something Alex and I have been talking about, like during this season,
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  A lot is like Bruce Willis's I acting like he does a lot of
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  like Okay, So I was also thinking about this as well when we were
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  when we're doing this because you have um, I was on last season for
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  Sean Claude, Ben Dam or not last season, but the season John clad
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  Vandam, and my argument was always that I think John clad Vandam is the
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  best of the action actors. Um. I know y'all disagree with me,
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  but all right, now we're watching some of some of Bruce Willis's movies,
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  I think Bruce Willis is the best comedic actor of all the boutch like he
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  is, like his time comedic timing is impeccable. I would agree with that.
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  I would agree with that. I think Schwartzy is second. Yeah,
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  Shartzy has no yeah, Shartzy is actually Shortzy and Schwartzen sorry Schwartzy and Stallone
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  yeah both have and even John clud Vandam has good comedic timing as well,
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  like, but I think there like, there is definitely a hierarchy with them,
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  but there's definitely they're all close. Yeah, I don't think that anyone.
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  I think that, you know, there's something to be said that I
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  think a good action star should be good at comedy. I agree, I
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  agreet Jackie Chan look at like there's something about the rhythm of comedy films and
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  the rhythm of action films that go hand in hand. And even though a
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  lot of action comedies or shit, Yeah, I agree, I agree exactly.
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  Yeah. But but but when they when it works, it works really
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  well. It works because like, when it works, it's great. When
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  it doesn't, it's like, oh god, they're running from the giant flame
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  ball. I don't know what's Yeah, but so this movie it kind of
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  fits in a weird place too, because it's very it's very funny, it's
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  very silly, it's very ridiculous. But it's also so dark. Yes,
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  that's the thing it feels. And I'm kind of like also saving this because
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  it's going to be a big thing that Alex and I talk yeah today,
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  But but but but it feels like a Tale from the Crypt episode. Oh
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  that's good. I never thought of that, but you're absolutely correct that it's
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  like it's a it's a Tale from the crypts episode with an actual budget.
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  Yeah yeah, with a really good budget, Like because if you were you
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  could totally do this as a Tales from the Crypt and just like it a
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  lot of things off the street. There's there's a work perfectly, there's a
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  lesson learned, there's a kind of like campy over the topness, there's a
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  there's a kind of the expressions are really big, always really big, and
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  there's a kind exactly there's a kind of like um other worldliness to Tales from
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  the Crypt episodes that that that this movie really encapsulates. Robert Zemeckis was involved
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  in Tales from the Crypt. Oh, Okay, that makes more sense.
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  It was Walter Hill as well. I want to say that I don't know
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  if that's true. Leave Walter Hill. I might just be making that up.
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  What do you think it is? Another? Like? Did I just
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  make that up? Or is it? Let me look at the Walter Hill
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  tell us from Tales from the Crypt a few of the episodes. Okay,
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  yeah, so yeah yeah he did, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  I feel like Walter Hill is a kind of the kind of director that could
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  work well with like Zamechi's type. Yeah, no, that's actually no,
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  that a is well like. And I think that what's interesting about this movie,
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  um as well is that Zamechis is I think the main disc ble of
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  Spielberg. If CON say that he's the biggest disciple, this is the most
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  Joe Dante Robert Zamachis goes interesting. Well, did you say that well,
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  because like Joe Dante was kind of the he's also Spielberg disciple. I guess
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  Ron Howard is as well. There's what I think of the three main Spielberg
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  disciples. Um, Joe Dante was always kind of the like punk younger cousin
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  of them or younger brother. He was the one who was kind of the
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  anarchist, kind of didn't give a fuck, would do like weird, creepy
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  kind of scary shit. Yeah, he's like what he's like what, um
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  what's his face? Harmony kren Is to Dogman Movies. Yes, yes,
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  yes, vary that vary that in terms of it. No, that's good,
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  Um no, because he's just he's like he's just doing his own shit.
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  That kind of is so much weirder and out there than all the other
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  Like, well, like Zackis and Ron Howard are kind of interchangeable at times,
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  Like there's a certain movies like I always have to look up movies by
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  either them, be like wait, which one did which and which one did
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  like? Because well, I feel like I feel like Zamechis is more magical
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  than Ron Howard. Ron Howard is more um kind of like he tries to
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  capture the high cinema of Spielberg, whereas Zamechez tries to capture the zaniness.
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  Yes, well that's a very good point. That's a very good separation between
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  the two. No, but this is Amechis going his most joke. Yeah,
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  I can stand by that, and I think, yeah, no,
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  yeah, yeah, I mean, and this movie it feels very Zamechis,
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  but it also feels like you're right, like there's some other kind of element
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  to it. And I think it's because of it feels kind of like Burdeny,
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  Tim Burtony, because of the way that the zany darkness comebo. Yeah,
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  and that's also just the same era of all those things. Yeah,
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  it's like that, like it's it's I don't want to call it the darkest
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  comedy, because that's that's not in that's not correct, but like it's dark
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  and it's comedy. It's Spielberg become body horror, which just counter to like
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  everything Spielberg stands more well, before we before we end, I'd like to
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  know, like, what are what are your standout what are your like top
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  three standout moments in the movie. Oh, that's great. I don't want
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  to say scenes even because there's so many moments in scenes that are really brilliant
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  and really great. So I'm just gonna say even like which sticks out in
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  them? Just doing this based on first coming to my head the hole in
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  her body when she gets out of the fucking fountain, because that special fact
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  is fucking Phenomenal's incredible mail Street falling down the stairs. I don't know why,
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  but that always really like stuck with me. It's so it hurts to
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  watch. Yeah, it's a really brutal fair stair falling. And then it
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  would be the third one, I think, the ending, fucking where's the
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  park? Car park? Like them is these like pieces of the ground ship
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  and you're just like you guys suck like old bitches. You can't even fucking
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  die, like you rotten old bitches die, that's looking depth becomes there.
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  Well, I think that's a perfect way to end this segment. And thank
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  you so much for joining me. Thank you for having me. It was
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  always, always, always a pleasure to be here. But what would you
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  say if I had to ask you, and have you been following a little
• 16:23
  bit of our criteria of what makes a good Bruce appearance? Bruce is more
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  subtle, right, So he's got what he's like, does a lot more
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  charm, He's got a lot of vocal inflections. Here's the thing. Here's
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  the thing. It's a very Yeah, just to go back to Bruce Willis
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  for a second in terms of this, um, it's a very not Bruce
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  Willis movie and a very not Bruce Willis role. Yeah, it's extremely that
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  and I think he sells it brilliantly. Well. I mean, I think
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  just for that reason, and something that's going to play into this a lot
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  is Bruce has taken way more chances than any of the other guys. He's
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  had opportunities too, He's been given opportunities. But no, you're absolutely correct,
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  he is. He takes way more risks than the rest of them,
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  and I think he has he has more room to take risks. Yeah,
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  people don't pigeonhole him as much as they pigeonhole the other three actors. Like,
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  like you say, Jean Claud van dam or a Swarts and Anger people
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  have. People have a very particular image in their own minds. Yes,
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  Well is far more elastic in people's image. Yeah, yeah, you're right,
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  You're right. I mean he did, he did. He was on
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  Friends for a while. Like I hate, like I'm not saying that the
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  Great Friends or anything, but like he was a reoccurring character on Friends.
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  I mean, please, Jean Claud Vanda was on Friends too, was in
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  one episode playing Bruce Well has dated Jennifer Anderson's characters. Oh my god,
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  I forgot that. Yeah, no, he basically And I hate that I'm
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  bringing up because I fucking hate Friends. But Ross is dating a woman in
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  university, one of his students, I think, And it's really weird and
• 17:59
  gross when retrospect, but a lot of Ross's behavior is that anyway, Bruce
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  Willis is the woman is the woman he's dating his father, and she starts
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  dating Jennie. Wow, outrageous. Well, maybe we'll cover some Friends episodes.
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  I hate Friends. Too. Yeah, I know. I just I'm
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  drinking up to bring a point that it's like the other three. I can't
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  think of a sitcom that they appeared on that wasn't themselves as themselves. And
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  that's the joke, is that they're on a sitcom as themselves promoting whatever movie
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  they're in. Yeah, well it's actually character. I mean, that's different,
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  that's different level. That's different level. Well, thank you so much,
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  dude, Thank you so much. I love anytime. Thank you go
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  again, and let's not have you fucking walking it. Hello everyone, and
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  welcome to Planet Bruce. My name is Malenko and I'm Alex. Nice to
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  me, and today we're talking about Dead Becomes Her nineteen nine ones. Death
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  Becomes Her directed by Robert samackis okay, so like we get the whole treasure
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  roberts as Yeah, like Spielberg protege, Robert smackis the best of the Spielberg
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  Protege's. Yeah. I talked to Dylan a bit about this, and so
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  it was interesting. It's it's been interesting to like to have that conversation.
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  Tee up this conversation. But um man, this movie is great and it's
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  it's Dylan said, it's a cult classic when it should be just a regular
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  classic. I agree, I agree with it. I agree with it too.
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  Yeah, because, as I said, it is probably the best Tales
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  from the Crypt Episode movie ever. So I did mention that in our discussion.
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  I did credit you for getting the idea. And it really feels like
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  a very high budget Tales from the Crypt Episode totally, and like that's actually
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  like when when because I watched the first half and you hadn't said that,
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  and then I watched the second half with that in mind, and it actually
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  made the movie so much better for me. Yeah, totally because the first
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  half of the movie. I know why, because the first half of the
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  movie almost takes it a little too straight, and then all of a sudden,
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  it becomes like so much more magical. Yeah, but it's very it's
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  very Zamech is magical. It's very like nothing's explained normally, but everything makes
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  total sense. Totally. Yeah. Yeah, is hot. Everyone's everyone's really
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  hot in the movie. And like it's interesting. Also they're the main characters
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  and they're the love story. But somehow because they're the main characters and they're
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  the main love story, the Goldie Han and Meryl Streep are the main love
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  story and the main characters, but somehow them being that makes Bruce willis secret
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  third made character. Totally. Yeah, we're like he actually even has like
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  this whole other. I mean, we'll get to it, but should we
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  should we go through it? Like we think this movie it's the full treatment.
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  I think go through it. I think this is because Zamka's movies are
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  perfect for storytelling. He's such a storyteller totally. Alan Silvestri Um, Oh,
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  I mean, of course music. Uh. We start out the movie
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  in nineteen seventy eight where a Broadway dancer show person. People are just leaving
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  the theater too. They hate they they hate her, like she's really like
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  gone off and like isn't isn't like very good at Broadway anymore? But but
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  it's such an amazing it wasn't an amazing professor had to be. It makes
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  it so much funnier that that, well, it's funny because like it's like
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  like what's the taste? Like who's you know what I mean? Like it
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  kind of there's a level of outrageousness to like it makes it more magical.
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  It makes it more magical because it is such an incredible show. His his
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  Bruce willis Is reaction to the show is amazing. Bruce Welis being like remember
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  how Nelson reacts and Simpsons when he likes sees like concert totally he's so happy
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  about it. But like, right, Bruce Willis doesn't like fat people in
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  a different way than than or because like I was like, naybe like when
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  you said it the last time, I was like, I think I even
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  said it on the podcast. I was like maybe I don't know, I
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  don't know i'd have to say. And then it was just like it's happened
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  too many times where you're just like this specific thing not even schwartzy. It's
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  like, yeah, any fat suite stuff is always so dehumanized. It's very
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  dehumanizing. I like there was a while where like, because I've listened to
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  I follow some some like you know, like fat activists who are like talk
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  about like a lot about like fat phobian movies and like how wearing a fat
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  suit is fatphobic, and like I've I've had the instinct of like that some
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  other people that I know have like heard that and like had the instinct of
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  like a pushback. But I agree when you think about it, it's like
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  yeah, like it's like you're doing something that is the regular body of another
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  person and and is and making it ridiculous and disgusting, like yeah, showing
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  it to be that and it's not. That's fine. But at the same
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  time, I will say there's a there's I will push back on a couple
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  of things because there I agree that that can happen. I do think that
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  there are certain practicalities that go into that that don't quite ven diagram onto what
• 23:59
  are you saying practicalities they're going to what practicalities into in certain like moments of
• 24:03
  like oh, okay, well we need a person who's six hundred pounds,
• 24:07
  but we also need to be able to make this movie, like we need
• 24:11
  to get a star do that, you know what I mean? Or it's
• 24:14
  not like sure, you can say that it's to humanize in but then you
• 24:17
  get into the whole like a whole other discussion about like um, like what
• 24:22
  is drag versus? What is this? You know what I mean? Like
• 24:26
  do you enter into all these like weird territories you don't have to no,
• 24:30
  no, yeah, but I think there's just to comment on that quickly.
• 24:33
  I think there's a kind of like um level of representation thing of like what
• 24:38
  are you trying to say? It's more about what you're trying to say if
• 24:42
  you're like are you like having someone in a fat suit and then like celebrating
• 24:47
  that body or like or making it you know, it's you always usually saying
• 24:52
  something pejorative or doing something like it's like a bad part, you know,
• 24:56
  Like sure, I I don't doubt that. I'm just saying that. Like
• 24:59
  like even even in that, it's like, well, what do you mean
• 25:03
  about the bad part? Is it like oh, well there's a level of
• 25:07
  shame or what do you even mean by like no, no, there's a
• 25:10
  value? Just yeah, sure, yeah, yeah, you're you're right,
• 25:12
  Like I know what you're saying. Yeah, for sure. And like,
• 25:17
  don't get me wrong, like I'm not I'm not a person who wants to
• 25:18
  be like, oh fat people should feel bad. I'm just pointing out the
• 25:22
  fact that like in this specifically, there is one a purpose and two it's
• 25:27
  weird that it's post Yeah, it's weird that it is weird. It's very
• 25:33
  weird that it's Bruce Well and like yeah they show her as so so let's
• 25:40
  let's go through the plot. Yeah, so Bruce Willis's way too into the
• 25:44
  play, you know in a way that's like he wants to have sex with
• 25:48
  Meryl Street. Yeah, and then and we find out from Goldie Hans character
• 25:52
  and frumpy Goldie Han with the the kind of like bangs, Yeah, the
• 26:00
  aangs and but like she's also hot the whole She's so funny. It's they're
• 26:07
  they're they're both they're also funny. Like we were talked a lot about that
• 26:10
  them as comedic actors all just works so pitch perfectly. But I want to
• 26:17
  meet her backstage because she wants to put Bruce through the final test of like
• 26:22
  before they get married. He has to meet her because she has stolen almost
• 26:27
  every single one of her boyfriends. Do you know what's funny is that what's
• 26:32
  interesting about the dynamics between all of them, So they're all as much as
• 26:40
  they want us to believe that, oh these are like there's an innocence to
• 26:47
  Bruce Willis and and uh Goldie Hawn in this at the beginning, but they're
• 26:52
  all such bad people immediately because it's like it's like the weird art about Goldie
• 27:00
  Hawn is that like she's been so tortured by this person that she's driven only
• 27:06
  by like motivated by like getting revenge, getting revenge. And it's like she's
• 27:12
  lured this dumbass into into this situation. She actually brought him into the situation
• 27:18
  when you find out like to you know, meet her, Yeah, yeah,
• 27:22
  you're lured him and so like she brings him into like this whole dynamic.
• 27:26
  But I mean he does make his own choice, of course, of
• 27:30
  course. Great. And then the first condescending kiss on the cheek where she
• 27:37
  leaves the lipstick on her face and and like her hair looks what's her name,
• 27:45
  Meryl Streep's hair is amazing. I know you don't think I need you
• 27:48
  do, because he's a he's a we find out he's a plastic SURGEONRYL Streep
• 27:53
  MARYL. Streep plays this character of like wanting to like a kind of like
• 28:00
  former beauty so well so well yeah, because it's interesting, like how losing
• 28:07
  her kind of you can tell that she's you know, aging out of being
• 28:11
  like a superstar and people that's why presumably people are leaving her shows and stuff.
• 28:17
  It's all about like looks and preserving youth, yea, and like it's
• 28:22
  which is is really is really good and interesting. But they do a funny
• 28:26
  cut of like he's like, oh honey, I'll never leave you, and
• 28:30
  that he had the cut to the next scene and he's marrying and I love
• 28:36
  the jump cuts to like seven years later that we check into to like first
• 28:41
  seven years later and she's like a wreck and has like become fat, yeah,
• 28:47
  and gets cats and he's eating ice cream out of the bowl and with
• 28:52
  her hands and her finger has this is so made her again, made her
• 28:56
  disgusting, has like white cream all over her face and it's fat. Like
• 29:02
  what you can't tell me that that's not meant to humiliate fat people. Um,
• 29:07
  it is kind of but I think actually the cats make it way more
• 29:14
  disgusting to me. To me, it's like yeah, whatever, like this
• 29:17
  fat lady, but like because like she doesn't look like bad either, like
• 29:22
  you know what I mean. Like that's the thing is like there, I
• 29:25
  think they're saying that she looks bad, but I'm like, she looks hot
• 29:29
  like to me, Yeah, I was like yeah, exactly. I was
• 29:30
  like, I don't know, like she looks hot to me, Like I
• 29:33
  don't know, I get I get what the movie is saying, yeah,
• 29:36
  I get with the movie and it's definitely making the idea of fatness a bad
• 29:41
  thing. Having said that too, is that the movie is a lot about
• 29:45
  like judgment on looks and like what it takes. Yeah, oh exactly exactly,
• 29:52
  So that's true. But I love the fact that Michael Kaine was in
• 29:56
  this movie. I just do you? What do you? And what when
• 30:02
  in this in the scene where Michael streep in then they got they got him
• 30:07
  to do just do that. That's a fake movie. That's amazing. And
• 30:14
  her but her watching how did you guess? Yeah, how did you guess?
• 30:17
  But her watching on the TV, her dying screen, like Goldie Han
• 30:22
  living this fantasy of seeing her frenemy get murdered. Um, but this movie
• 30:29
  really made me think about the idea of frenemies are great, frenees are fun.
• 30:36
  The psychiatric scene was also like psychiatry is bad and this is how it
• 30:40
  is. It's like there was a real pushback in this time about like quacks
• 30:47
  and it's a real you know, like, oh, like someone's really bad
• 30:51
  if they're going to therapy. I mean, but not just that, like
• 30:55
  it's just like the therapist is terrible. She's like screaming at her, being
• 30:59
  like you're fucking fat and terrible. What the hell? Oh my god,
• 31:03
  It's like, what one dude that's not a therapist. She's into like an
• 31:07
  institution. Yeah, she's in an institution. But even that, it's like
• 31:10
  it seems but like doesn't seem well, I mean, but it's a cartoon,
• 31:15
  right, Yeah, of course, it's very very Tales from the Crypt.
• 31:17
  It's like, are you fat? Well. That's the thing is that
• 31:19
  they have to also get out so much information so quickly. It's like it's
• 31:25
  we're thirteen minutes into the movie, right, so it's like they and they
• 31:29
  do do they really really just like, Okay, we gotta get this because
• 31:33
  the greatest parts because then that like they do a lot of setting up on
• 31:37
  the like murder part, which it was an interesting choice to draw that out
• 31:44
  because when I remember this movie, I remember that part the most. Oh
• 31:48
  yeah, because the stairs, the it's the most they're the most impactful parts.
• 31:52
  The one thing that we didn't mention that actually kind of gets a little
• 31:56
  bit done dirty was the maid the or the like person that helps Meryl streep.
• 32:04
  She's like a maid. Oh and then she takes on the job first
• 32:07
  she's like her handler and then she's like becomes just her maid, yeah,
• 32:12
  which is like it's a funny transition. But like she she she also has
• 32:15
  like a weird when sexual tension with like, yeah, they have a mutual
• 32:22
  understanding. It's like a trauma bond that they both Well, anybody who's like
• 32:28
  together with a narcissist that closely does form that kind of a bond of like
• 32:31
  rolling their eyes at like, oh this fucking person. Yeah, and they
• 32:36
  like if they didn't have that person in their life, they would have nothing
• 32:38
  in common. But they Yeah, they're so intensely intertwined. Yeah, no,
• 32:44
  totally, And you kind of then realize after like maybe we don't have
• 32:47
  that much in common when the person is no longer no longer there dude.
• 32:52
  By the way, Bruce Willis also plays an alcoholic really well that like alcoholic
• 32:58
  kind of like shoveled old umair. I think this is real. Yeah yeah,
• 33:04
  yeah, well not in the beginning. It's in the beginning. Yeah,
• 33:08
  just a straight wig in the beginning. Yeah, there's a hard I
• 33:12
  don't know that there's much that is straight about this movie. No, but
• 33:15
  Dylan was saying it's funny. He was saying, it's a it's a gay
• 33:17
  movie four straight people, Yeah, which I think it's like such a good
• 33:22
  observation. I think you mean it's a Terry Gilliam people movie for Americans.
• 33:30
  Oh man. Also also England is just a gay America. That's true.
• 33:35
  Um yeah, oh man. Um. But yeah, now Bruce Willis is
• 33:45
  working as an undertaker, which is not how an undertaker works. But I
• 33:51
  found this interesting so like it was like a huge step down for him to
• 33:53
  not be uh plastic surgeon anymore. But why, he was an alcoholic and
• 33:59
  he was shaky. That's why he was shaky. That's why at the he's
• 34:02
  made his shakes worse. In the when he wakes up from like an alcohol
• 34:08
  days or whatever, he tries to whip the knife at the darting board and
• 34:14
  he keeps missing it because he can't do surgery. Good observation. I totally
• 34:19
  now that you're mentioning it. I remember the shakes and stuff, and I
• 34:22
  was like, I didn't make the connection. They did a really good job
• 34:23
  at at not spelling stuff out like that, and it's coolness. Yeah,
• 34:28
  um, but what's her name? It's gonna justice a little bit. Um,
• 34:34
  I'm already fucking loud as shit, but yeah, you're fine, it
• 34:36
  doesn't matter. Um. Yeah, So what end up happening is um Meryl
• 34:39
  Streep goes to her like not surgery. She's doing like a I think like
• 34:45
  a plasma something and she's like, um, we the like assistant or the
• 34:53
  nurse ladies, like we only do it every six months. It's almost been
• 34:57
  six months. It's been three weeks. Yeah her Yeah, and then her
• 35:04
  like panicking looking in the mirror is so funny. She's like, you can't
• 35:07
  handle it. Yeah, she did a really she's so amazing, did really
• 35:12
  chicken job. Yeah, she did such a chicken job. But she also
• 35:15
  did that thing that narcissists do, which is back but like flip on a
• 35:22
  dime to be your friend after screaming at you and if you're like in a
• 35:25
  job or like you a son or two brothers of a narcissist um that you're
• 35:34
  scared of and have no power against. Um. But yeah, she she
• 35:38
  like flips on a dime and then is so nice. And then all of
• 35:43
  a sudden, like the nurse lady moves out of the way at the head
• 35:45
  of the company or whatever's just sitting there Yeah, it's amazing that. Yeah,
• 35:51
  and he's like, oh, did you say you had money for things?
• 35:57
  That's basically what it is, dude, Oh you have clearly. But
• 36:02
  something that something that Dylan said that that I thought was really interesting about this
• 36:09
  movie is that it really only has four characters in it. Yeah, it
• 36:15
  has Isabella Rosselini, who is amazing, amazing and makes it the gayest part
• 36:22
  of this movie simultaneously the gayest part of this movie, and like, yeah,
• 36:27
  she's amazing, simultaneously the gayest part and the time when her and David
• 36:31
  Lynch were together and it's like, oh they were together. I mean,
• 36:36
  that's very Lynchi in Yeah. But but I think that having her in this
• 36:43
  movie was such an amazing choice. Yeah, she was perfect. She was
• 36:45
  like at the height of her career. But so her, Bruce Willis and
• 36:51
  Goldie han And and Miryll Streep are the crux of the movie and the rest.
• 36:55
  Then I made the observation that this movie could have been a play feels
• 37:00
  a little bit Oh yeah. I think that's on purpose because of the fact
• 37:05
  that she's in theater um and there there is like a very it's not it's
• 37:10
  not actor in the movie. Sense in this movie. For sure, it
• 37:15
  feels very playlike, but the POV is very like Looney Tunes, like even
• 37:21
  yea, even the beginning of the movie where they're like we know every card
• 37:25
  by like I mean, it just reminded me of that that that Looney Tunes
• 37:34
  commercial or the Looney Tuns were bugs. Bundy is one of the guys and
• 37:37
  he does the same act. So any times for us, we're we're looking
• 37:45
  for us, No, we have to go. We didn't it remind you
• 37:59
  of though? Oh yeah? But so yeah, the way the camera moves
• 38:02
  and this reminded me of how like it does it loudy tourn sometimes you know
• 38:07
  what it like pans, Yeah, totally, it would. It would pan,
• 38:10
  and also like things would happen in the background that we're like outrageous um
• 38:15
  and I really loved um. This is where Bruce, while he's coming to
• 38:21
  the show or to the opening, we get the reason, oh, the
• 38:25
  reason Meryl Street gets so panicked about her looks is because she receives an invitation
• 38:32
  to Goldie Hawn's new book, which is about being Forever young or whatever.
• 38:37
  Oh yeah, and then they see her and they think it's a We also
• 38:42
  find out through another character, um who Bruce Willis has worked on, and
• 38:49
  she's like, oh, how did you do that? You're you're a master.
• 38:52
  And he's like spray paint talking to this woman about her dead grandmother,
• 38:57
  and then like the camera moved to just him and it's and he's like describing
• 39:02
  a horrible process and it cuts back to her and she's like, Oh,
• 39:07
  don't tell me that. Yeah, I like that, like the trying the
• 39:09
  tooth with the spray paint here, because spray paint ends a play. It's
• 39:13
  like it's the plastic of this movie. Oh, definitely. Um. And
• 39:16
  then it like when they first see her and she they see like a woman
• 39:21
  who's like slightly frumpy looking. Yeah, and she's like, oh she's They're
• 39:24
  relieved a few pounds, They're relieved, and then they she that woman moves
• 39:29
  out of the way and she's like got a gorgeous silhouette. Yeah. And
• 39:31
  like like one of the obvious big things that Dylan and I talked about is
• 39:36
  how drag this movie. Yeah, it's definitely. It's definitely very like her
• 39:40
  red lipstick, the iconic red dress, her hair is perfect. Even even
• 39:45
  the even the regular people that are they're playing like the regular versions of themselves
• 39:55
  are still so heightened. It's camp. Yeah, it's very sharp. Yeah.
• 40:00
  Yeah. And as a result of the whole movie then like he has
• 40:04
  that Terry. That's kind of what gives it the Terry Gilliam feel is that
• 40:07
  there is an other worldliness that's a creative Yeah, that's a very built world
• 40:13
  and where people don't ask the questions of how things happen. The things just
• 40:19
  unfold the way they do in the world, and which I also love.
• 40:22
  We get the reactions that most match the character rather definitely, rather than pushing
• 40:28
  any story forward. Also, Bruce Willis's dead eye to acting where he's like,
• 40:31
  I've wasted my life. That was more Alec Baldwin, Um, i'ted
• 40:37
  my life. He's so outrageous in the movie. And the eyes did I
• 40:40
  tell you he's eye acting all eyes. It's all eyes, like he's not
• 40:45
  afraid to go like yeah, kind of monkey. I love it so much.
• 40:54
  He's so funny. He also like just when when he's when where he's
• 41:00
  yeah, when she's telling him, when she's telling you, he's got like
• 41:04
  a sunning smirk. No, but like like when she when she's like when
• 41:07
  Goldie Han pulls him aside to like make their relationship bad between each other,
• 41:13
  like feed him information that feed Meryl Streep information where um um where uh he
• 41:25
  She's like, look at you used to be an amazing surgeon. Now you're
• 41:30
  an she's turned you into an undertaker. And just like the feelings that he
• 41:35
  has about it, like I'm devastated face that he has. He was incredible.
• 41:40
  Yeah, he was amazing. You know. It's really interesting now because
• 41:45
  like we've seen Bruce sort of show up in a side role at this point
• 41:52
  a few times during this season so far, and one of the things that
• 41:58
  I'm noticing is that I think that's actually a huge strength of Bruce's. He
• 42:02
  showed up in this movie and he made it better without being the main character
• 42:07
  in such a good way that like it's almost like exciting. Yeah, totally,
• 42:14
  It's like what can he do because he has a lot more range in
• 42:17
  the he has a lot more movement in those those places. Um. After
• 42:22
  the the party, they go home and Meryl Streepe it like sneaks out to
• 42:30
  go see a lover and lovers t Yeah, yeah, exactly, He's taking
• 42:38
  another younger Lover's embarrassed. I'm embarrassed of you. You're old now, yeah,
• 42:45
  exactly exactly, but it's such a purple see us together, and they
• 42:47
  think it looks weird. Yeah, totally. It's it's such a eighties guy
• 42:52
  like it kind of seems like they like, well, they are signaling that
• 42:59
  everyone understand what I mean, you know what I mean. They make it
• 43:04
  seem like everyone thinks this, but it makes sense what you were saying in
• 43:07
  the world, like it helps with the world building of like, yes,
• 43:10
  in this world everyone does have to be beautiful and that's why it's like he
• 43:15
  talked about Hollywood excess. Like later on in the funerals, and we get
• 43:22
  little the little hint of um, like her Goldie Han trying to like make
• 43:30
  herself look like she's crying um. And Meryl Streep has found the card that
• 43:36
  the the guy at the plastica surgery place gave her for umbell I was able
• 43:44
  to say Isabelle hupir Um, Isabella Roussellini and um. It's funny because the
• 43:47
  guy's eye is twitching because he's also old and his body is fucked, so
• 43:53
  he has to like pretend he's one of those he's one of those guys because
• 43:57
  later on he appears again not so funny. Yeah, okay, okay,
• 44:00
  okay, um, but yeah, they've concocted a plan to kill her,
• 44:07
  take her car, kill Mellor Merrill Streep and they show all of this in
• 44:13
  like a like a Tales from the Crypti Imagination forward. There's no, it
• 44:17
  doesn't happen. They're thinking about it happen. Yeah, for sure, we
• 44:21
  put and they make it even goofier because of that, they're allowed to have
• 44:24
  the freedom to make it sillier looking in this fabios in this right? Was
• 44:30
  that him? I thought it was the one blond guy, but I didn't
• 44:35
  see him again, so I was like, no, I must have been
• 44:37
  one of the other dudes. Yeah. It was interesting all of the like
• 44:42
  weird little cameos in this movie of like they have like Jim Morrison, yeah,
• 44:45
  and Elvis and John Lennon I think, or it was like pretty conspiratorial.
• 44:52
  Yeah, but the like people they've played, like Elvis and like Jim
• 44:57
  Morrison, they were like so over the top yea dred percent yeah. Um.
• 45:00
  And then I like, I I wish movies did this. Movies don't
• 45:06
  do this now I've noticed because magic isn't real and technology has proven that,
• 45:12
  um where like she'll open a thing that has another thing that she'll open and
• 45:15
  there's like a potion in there to like make her young forever or stay youthful
• 45:22
  for us. I know, I know, you don't need to like I
• 45:27
  don't know. Yeah, and so much could be done practically too, I
• 45:29
  know, I know. And and like she was like, oh how much
• 45:34
  is it? And stuff like that. A lot of it's like money changing
• 45:37
  hands as well too, Like how much like there's a lot of value placed
• 45:42
  on on like who is rich and who is exactly exactly who's successful and successful
• 45:47
  matches the rich matches the good looks right, like it's all connected. I
• 45:52
  also really love when she's like, oh dude, think I am. I
• 45:55
  love I love her voice and I love her accent. It's funny because she's
• 46:00
  actually the age that she says now she's seventy three now and she's like seventy
• 46:04
  one, and I think she's a little yeah yeah yeah, but the like
• 46:08
  Meryl streeping like thirty eight twenty four one felt bad. Yeah, The like
• 46:15
  chest piece that she's wearing of diamonds, yeah, like bejeweled perfectly draped over
• 46:23
  her breasts. Yeah, it was like pretty pretty amazing. Yeah, and
• 46:30
  then like, yeah, them concocting this plan and um, Bruce willis like,
• 46:37
  yeah, Tales from the Crypting in a white suit and like put putting
• 46:42
  poison on the Yeah, the reason it's poison beach class. Yeah, so
• 46:46
  that the reason it's so Tales with the cryptis because the camera's constantly dollying into
• 46:52
  people. And that's so true the Tales with the Crypt dolly Yeah all.
• 47:00
  So what's really funny is just the the idea that like pouring a bun it's
• 47:06
  such kid logic. Pouring a bunch of alcohol bottles onto a person and the
• 47:12
  car, yeah implies something, but it really doesn't. And they put like
• 47:15
  seventy bottles in the bottom of the car. Yeah, and then they drive
• 47:20
  her off the cliff. But I also really like the idea they'll check her
• 47:23
  blood alcohol level and then there's like a Charret gym. Yeah, totally in
• 47:29
  the imagination. But the idea that like they kind of introduce, they did
• 47:34
  a really interesting thing plot wise to not have to explain a lot of like
• 47:39
  the magic part where it's like, oh, she's dead. They do it
• 47:45
  like forty five minutes in. She gets the power, and like she goes
• 47:47
  to be like an awesome chick and like leaves him and it's like, oh,
• 47:54
  you're and Bruce Willis says she's cheap and like that really like offends her,
• 48:00
  and she's like, well, yeah, so like that. That's also
• 48:05
  very interesting because like so much of everything is about affluence and the like word
• 48:09
  cheap kind of the word. She defends her on multiple levels, in the
• 48:15
  way that it offends Marty to be called a chicken in the second one third
• 48:19
  one the Red con Chicken mcf man, those guys, these guys are all
• 48:30
  gay, dude, I mean yeah, those guys are all bad people because
• 48:35
  they had terrible parents who didn't accept I think, I think the guy.
• 48:40
  I think the the guy who's putting the is non binary. I do,
• 48:47
  I do gives me non binary vibe. So yeah, Bruce Willis gets really
• 48:53
  really mad at Meryl Street for um basically calling him a flaccid undertake, and
• 49:00
  like, oh, the way she's taking away his manhood. The way she
• 49:05
  acted the part when she's when she's telling him, when she's humiliating him and
• 49:10
  insulting him, was like, man, have you have you done this before?
• 49:17
  Movie? It seemed like there was like a relishing in it, like
• 49:21
  I did a really good job. I was like, wow, dude,
• 49:23
  Like and I know she's a really good actor. I know that that it's
• 49:27
  her acting, but but she did such she's able to channel this kind of
• 49:31
  narcissist so well yeah, really really well. Um. But yeah, speaking
• 49:37
  of Bruce Willis eyes like just being a guy, I was like, like,
• 49:42
  be doing this kind of like chunky puffy face. Chunky puffy face for
• 49:49
  sure, and like but also with a sense of humility about it's for the
• 49:54
  movie, yeah or never never never doesn't you can tell, doesn't question.
• 50:00
  There's a working ethic to him. Definitely, He's it feels like he's doing
• 50:06
  what the director told him, and the director told him to put it up
• 50:10
  to eleven and it's it's like and it's okay, and he so can do
• 50:15
  it both seriously and for comedic effect. And both of them are locked in
• 50:21
  in this role. And that's why I'm really glad that for the Boner Show
• 50:24
  we're covering Frighteners finally. Oh man, Yeah, definitely, And the outrageousness
• 50:30
  of her tripping down the stairs and cartooniously flow and just the like heels are
• 50:39
  like attached to the stairs and she can we talk about this stairfall is like
• 50:46
  oh my god, and she's like sickening, hurry up, help me,
• 50:52
  you whimp and then he pokes her with the finger and she falls down the
• 50:57
  stairs. Like it's like it's cut too so many times. It's such a
• 51:04
  funny. I was like, I loved so much when I saw it,
• 51:09
  but then like all of the next stuff was so like just made my stomach
• 51:15
  turn. Yeah. The body, like just the mangled neck bones and like,
• 51:22
  yeah, it looks like four or five vertebrae, Like I don't know,
• 51:25
  your neck just shouldn't be doing that. Yeah, And like his reaction
• 51:29
  to it is so funny too, and the willingness to just be like,
• 51:32
  you know what, let's play this out. No, why to dolly in
• 51:37
  and watch that body just flop just like flops a lot. It's great and
• 51:43
  like walks backwards with her neck like head twisted on backwards and like so it's
• 51:49
  really upsetting um. And and it's very scary in the way that all of
• 51:54
  the scariest parts of Who Frame Broder Rabbit are scary, but just in an
• 51:59
  entire movie that's true. That's true. Then Okay, I will say there
• 52:04
  was there is something that stopped this movie from being Pantheon to me as a
• 52:08
  kid, and that was how sinister these parts were. It felt a little
• 52:15
  too scary for me. I obviously grew to appreciate it later, but like
• 52:21
  it feels like the like violence of him killing his wife is really scary.
• 52:30
  It's really it's really terrifying in a way that like someone close to someone else
• 52:35
  is murdering them, you know what I mean. Like it's like it was
• 52:37
  upsetting to see and I think I like physically reacted to it. But also
• 52:43
  like obviously it's like part of the like story, This movie feels very much
• 52:52
  a different kind of adult movie than the kinds of adult movies we used to
• 52:58
  watch. And this one feels like because it has uh some sort of like
• 53:04
  marital problem in it, it feels like more adult, do you know what
• 53:07
  I mean? There's a rooted in reality noess of like oh no, don't
• 53:15
  exactly exactly. And um, you know, I Dylan was talking about how
• 53:21
  he was watching this thing of it with the jinxpan Soon you know, the
• 53:23
  the drag star. Um. I had watched this as a kid obviously,
• 53:30
  and like, but was like it was like way too young to watch that
• 53:34
  movie. Like, yeah, in retrospect, and I see what they mean
• 53:37
  about that. I'm like, yeah, it's like really upsetting. Yeah,
• 53:43
  I mean it's it's like pretty um like those parts are really scary, especially
• 53:50
  if you don't have any like context context. Yeah, that's the thing.
• 53:55
  But yeah, but he calls He calls Goldie Hawn first to tell her I
• 54:00
  didn't I didn't. Don't you think it's gonna look suspicious when the police come.
• 54:05
  The first call you made was to me and not the police. Yeah,
• 54:07
  for sure. He's like, oh, I didn't think about that.
• 54:10
  Yeah, but also that felt very dumb believable. It felt very believable in
• 54:17
  details for the crypt kind of way one hundred percent. And then he takes
• 54:21
  him to the she she like gets back to life. Like they have like
• 54:25
  kind of an argument, and he has this like uh, like god moment
• 54:30
  where he's like, oh my god, this is actually amazing, like I
• 54:32
  should be with this person. It's like, no, this is even worse.
• 54:37
  Now. This person's gonna be alive forever. He's a real fucking simp
• 54:42
  in this movie. Yeah. The way he like he turns, he goes
• 54:45
  from like being kind of like just into these ladies and like for different reasons
• 54:52
  and then getting convinced for different reasons to like just like he's a total fucking
• 54:59
  simpl He becomes so much like and he becomes so erratic too, and throughout
• 55:06
  the movie, like where he like drives up it immediately just crashes into the
• 55:10
  ambulance and Sydney Pollock is in the movie, Oh okay, it's amazing job.
• 55:15
  What a like very low key performance but perfect, perfect, and it
• 55:22
  did it did really well, Like it was kind of like, I don't
• 55:25
  know what's going on. It was like such amazing whoa Like when he gets
• 55:30
  scared of the vertebrate, it's like he it's like he was like, you
• 55:35
  know, I have a doctor in mind that I want to paste this of
• 55:38
  him, like and he's like bending her arm and he's like that that doesn't
• 55:45
  hurt, or or yeah it does that hurt? Is it? This is
• 55:49
  it? And then it's like that doesn't hurt, this doesn't hurt. And
• 55:53
  your arms broken in three different places. Uh yeah, she doesn't have a
• 55:59
  pulse, she doesn't have a temperature, she doesn't have a heartbeat. So
• 56:04
  he lists off all these things and his kind of deadpan disbelief mixed with her
• 56:09
  sort of like dead eyed boredom, Like she's so magically over it already.
• 56:16
  Yeah, Like that's when this and Bruce Willis is so majestically incredible, majestically
• 56:22
  confused about it, but also kind of excited. Yeah, total horny.
• 56:27
  Yeah, totally, so like all of these things like kind of mixed together
• 56:32
  and bubble into this like weird brew of this movie feeling so funny and strange.
• 56:38
  Yeah. And then and then when he like he runs out for a
• 56:43
  moment and they've taken she she faints. He runs out for a moment to
• 56:47
  call the doctor, sees that the doctors in shock and has to be resuscitated
• 56:52
  as well, and then goes back to Meryl Streep to realize that she's been
• 56:58
  taken to We could take it to them, but did they show her like
• 57:00
  fall asleep or anything, or they show her like fainting. Oh, she
• 57:06
  gets taken to Morgan. He's like the Mark, She's gonna be so mad.
• 57:10
  I love I love like pathetic Jerry from from Rick and Marty. Bruce
• 57:16
  Willis, Oh yeah, yeah, just totally fucking loser year old man.
• 57:23
  It's a loser totally. This is still a wig though for Bruce Willis because
• 57:28
  he doesn't have the balding back. The front is definitely his hair though I
• 57:31
  love the balding front and she mentions his balding when she calls him limp Yeah,
• 57:37
  totally uh. And then Goldie Hawn sees them come home and she's like,
• 57:42
  what the hell is this and she tries to sneak in and then she
• 57:45
  jumps off the fence after she sees the like dead body come in. And
• 57:50
  then man, the scene where Bruce Willis is like funny your whole Yeah,
• 57:55
  totally. But what was crazy about this scene is that like when he drives
• 58:00
  up takes the body out and then she sneaks in, she falls on the
• 58:05
  ground and then he drives around and almost almoshes her head with the cars.
• 58:10
  Us. This is the stunt, Like I thought had the same thought.
• 58:14
  I was like, did they do it? Looked really good? It looked
• 58:17
  too good. Like I was like, I was thinking, is this a
• 58:22
  stunt too? Yeah, it is a stunt. It is a stunt.
• 58:25
  It must be. It was real because yeah, because one shot, it's
• 58:29
  one shot. It doesn't it's not like they switched out a body. It
• 58:31
  looked really good. But there are a lot of visual effects in this movie,
• 58:37
  and they're very good. Like the neck twisting stuff was uncanny and weird
• 58:43
  looking enough that like it turned my stomach, but I was also like,
• 58:46
  it's too stupid looking and you could tell they agonized over the look of the
• 58:51
  next agonized so much. This was like that was probably the biggest What would
• 58:55
  take like maybe three days, you know, from a person to for one
• 59:01
  person to do this would probably take have taken like a railer. Do you
• 59:07
  know what the how they filmed this and what was behind it and stuff,
• 59:10
  Um what I'm I don't know. Actually I wouldn't even think I saw that.
• 59:15
  There's like they did like I remember some making of featurettes that had like
• 59:20
  a plastic scene element to the neck. Oh yeah, for sure, Meryl
• 59:23
  Streep's wearing a thing. But then also they put stuff over I don't know,
• 59:28
  something like that. But it looked amazing and looks really good. The
• 59:30
  like falling it was just like all of the like kind of crunchy bones was
• 59:37
  so upsetting, Like like I just I get so squigged out. Bye bye
• 59:40
  bye neck shit and bone shit shit, tongue, bone in general bones,
• 59:49
  it's because it's too much of like it's the reminder of the insides. So
• 59:53
  like when I broke my arm broke last year, I was I was like,
• 59:59
  man, I'm so roast out that I broke my arm. It was
• 1:00:00
  gross. Three. It makes you it makes you feel like, uh,
• 1:00:05
  like reality in a different way because in internal stuff you can't see, so
• 1:00:09
  it's like you can be like, oh, is that a cancer? Like
• 1:00:14
  with like other things like scars, you sort of like, well that's there
• 1:00:16
  forever. But whatever, cars, guards, tattoos, tattoos, bald guards,
• 1:00:22
  Oh, new Succession? Are you gonna watch it this time in order
• 1:00:25
  with as it's coming or not? Maybe? Not? Why only the first
• 1:00:30
  episode is out? Only the first episode? The first episode is out?
• 1:00:34
  Yeah? Probably not. I'm gonna wait why because I want to enjoy it
• 1:00:37
  all okay? Yeah, um, but you watched it so slowly. I
• 1:00:43
  figured this would be a good thing. That's true. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:00:46
  And I don't have anything else to watch, so so you could do it.
• 1:00:50
  I could do it. And also I can talk to you guys about
• 1:00:52
  it rather than being told we were we talked about maybe doing the fourth season,
• 1:00:59
  but already, like people are so on succession that literally minutes after it
• 1:01:02
  came out, there was like explainer video, so many speaking of explainer videos,
• 1:01:07
  Um, Bruce Willis is explaining how to spray paint a body, and
• 1:01:13
  then um, what he went to go get was his supplies for the body
• 1:01:20
  making, which is great, and they definitely got a body double because the
• 1:01:22
  Barrel Streets body does not look like but oh my god, there was a
• 1:01:27
  lot of like butt shots and like I like that this movie was like into
• 1:01:30
  juicy butts because like juicy butts were not a big thing in this time.
• 1:01:36
  Yeah, for sure. And I love the fact that Bruce Willis is like
• 1:01:40
  gosh, hell, you know, like totally became like exactly what they thought
• 1:01:47
  of him. Yeah, yeah, which is kind of amazing. Like they're
• 1:01:52
  like, it's totally the plot is totally driven by them, and like he's
• 1:01:57
  just the fucking loser. Yeah, totally percent. They and they're best friends
• 1:02:01
  and then maybe even like that's that's the romance. So that's the trouble.
• 1:02:07
  It's it is very threes company. This is where uh um, Meryl Streep
• 1:02:16
  finds out what the plan was originally and she reverses, she does reversals,
• 1:02:22
  She goes and steals a shotgun, which it makes this more looty to oh
• 1:02:29
  man, dude when she shuns, Yeah, and like, which is like
• 1:02:36
  her it's viciousness of this. It's like, whoa, dude, it's violently
• 1:02:40
  Yeah. And it's like movies would not get made like the said scale on
• 1:02:45
  this scale anymore at all, like a high budget horror comedy. Well,
• 1:02:51
  that's why this movie should be more pantheon than it is. Yeah, like
• 1:02:54
  it should. This is a red heat, even though I knew it was
• 1:02:58
  good. Yeah, for sure, it should be a red heat to everyone.
• 1:03:02
  Man, when she comes back with the shotgun and she's like, oh,
• 1:03:06
  you're gonna tell the police and she like threatens him. Um, he
• 1:03:10
  did a really good job at being kind of tales from the Crypt moral core,
• 1:03:19
  because all tales from the Crypt episode are are really shitty people, total
• 1:03:23
  of them totally, but they're there. There's always a moral story. They're
• 1:03:28
  always taught a lesson, and I feel like they're all taught a lesson in
• 1:03:31
  this movie. Yeah. And dude, that whole in her stomach looks amazing.
• 1:03:35
  It looks amazing. I'm sucking just the like her eyes, like her
• 1:03:43
  demon demon eyes, was great. Yeah, and like just her running makeup
• 1:03:47
  and this like gaping hole in her stomach and all of the whole effects were
• 1:03:52
  like perfect, Yeah for sure were like you can tell also that they agonized
• 1:03:57
  like Meryl Street putting your face behind the hole and appearing in I'm sure that
• 1:04:02
  that took a lot of like a lot of special effects. And when she
• 1:04:08
  hits the head with the and it like falls over and then like you've got
• 1:04:14
  the crush you neck bone, man kind of just goofing around other to the
• 1:04:17
  skid and then she like puts her head back on. But then Goldie Hans
• 1:04:23
  smashes her head into the hole of the body, into her rib cage.
• 1:04:29
  Her head like it falls in like a ninja turtle. It's so gross.
• 1:04:31
  It's so gross, and but I loved also the little turtle, just the
• 1:04:35
  ninja. Yeah let's say hey baby, sure yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:04:54
  yes, yes, yeah that anything works. Maybe I you want to go,
• 1:05:00
  well, it's okay, I can go anytime, all right, yeah,
• 1:05:08
  let her text me okay, and you sent her the money or you're
• 1:05:13
  sending out when or you're giving me the money or And also I really like
• 1:05:18
  the little flourishes of like putting in cartoon shadows to fight with the shovels.
• 1:05:27
  Because they start a shovel fight, Bruce Willis runs away. Bruce Willis just
• 1:05:30
  runs away and like they sort of start making up in this scene, which
• 1:05:36
  I thought was great, Um where this is where the turn happens at the
• 1:05:40
  time Jerry become friends. Yeah, and and and it is Tom Jerry coming
• 1:05:45
  friends. Um and and the the like sadness to which both of them portray
• 1:05:51
  these scenes. Goldie Hawn does it a lot in the beginning. She she
• 1:05:56
  has a lot more sympathy at the beginning, but Meryl Street being like and
• 1:06:01
  you thought it was cheap, like this like thing that she has with like
• 1:06:06
  feeling like she's not worth it even though even though she has basically everything.
• 1:06:14
  Um. And they become friends and come up and they're like, yeah,
• 1:06:17
  I mean we're friends. Now we can be a throuttle Well, they're like
• 1:06:23
  they just decide that he's going to maintain their appearances for the rest of eternity.
• 1:06:29
  But then they realize that he can't do it forever because he's not gonna
• 1:06:32
  live forever. So they did concoct a plan to kill him or get him
• 1:06:38
  to almost die so that he will take it. Yeah, they wanted to
• 1:06:42
  take the potions so that he can look forward at his drink. I love
• 1:06:45
  this, Sorry, go ahead, I love this. Yeah. I think
• 1:06:49
  when when you started pointing out what kinds of things all that which you're just
• 1:06:56
  stupid, Like they're so stupid, like him telling the telling them with the
• 1:07:02
  drink and the drink flopping around. Well, so they know they want to
• 1:07:06
  poison him so that they can bring him to Isabella Rosalini. Yeah, so
• 1:07:11
  that's the first poisoning. Yeah, and they want to put him in a
• 1:07:15
  position where he has to take the potion exactly. So yeah, but he
• 1:07:19
  doesn't get poisoned and they like bunk him on the head with vases. Yeah,
• 1:07:25
  exactly. It is Fabio. It is straight up Fabio Juno Junia,
• 1:07:31
  totally totally um and then it's Fabio. It is Fabio. Yeah, it
• 1:07:38
  is Fabio. He had quite the career showing up in random random things.
• 1:07:43
  Yeah for sure. Uh And you know, hey, I really liked the
• 1:07:49
  moral core element in because this is where he makes it work. Yeah,
• 1:07:55
  where he puts his foot down and he's like, I'm not gonna like stand
• 1:07:58
  for this anymore. But also so that she's Isabella Rossellini's character does like an
• 1:08:04
  interesting turn here too, because she almost is punishing people for the curse that
• 1:08:11
  she has, because she starts flipping out when he's like, I'm not going
• 1:08:15
  to take this. Yeah, she starts like it's like almost it's very cult
• 1:08:19
  like the like thing that there's recruiting people. Yeah, exactly, So it's
• 1:08:25
  like if somebody's not doing it, it's messing with her reality. Well,
• 1:08:30
  it's it's kind of like a tails from the crypt Um set up to begin
• 1:08:34
  with, because like this where it's like from his perspective on the scene where
• 1:08:40
  she's about to and then she she's just like he's about to drink it and
• 1:08:44
  she's just like what and like so mad. It's so dragged, Like that
• 1:08:48
  outfit is amazing, um, but I was gonna say, like he sorry,
• 1:08:55
  also is okay lonely, I'm gonna hang out with Magdalene and Helen,
• 1:09:00
  so don't but that's out with you. It's such a realistic totally I would
• 1:09:09
  think about who am I going to hang out with? Um? But like
• 1:09:13
  it's almost as if like having the hubrists to seek out Isabella Rosselini in the
• 1:09:16
  first place, kind of makes you punishable. Yeah, you know what I
• 1:09:20
  mean. Like it's like it's like the vanity and the idea that you have
• 1:09:25
  to be forever young is the punishable offense. Yeah for sure. So like
• 1:09:29
  that's why she flips out, because she's there to dole out the punishment.
• 1:09:31
  Yeah. And then and then when she's classic became yeah totally um. And
• 1:09:38
  then when she turns to the the servids, Tom Dick, Harry oh Man,
• 1:09:45
  I kind of chess um. And then when when he gets to the
• 1:09:54
  like uh sware the party um that everyone is at all the like cult members.
• 1:10:01
  Yeah, they are eating adrenochrome. Um. And the guy who's the
• 1:10:06
  plastic surgeon guy is at their introducing the party. Um. And then uh,
• 1:10:13
  Magdalen and Helen see him and they chase him down. Uh and he
• 1:10:17
  like is like running away. And the two dogs, the scary dogs that
• 1:10:23
  she has that would be terrifying Rottweilers is really sweet. They probably are,
• 1:10:29
  but they're so scary. They're scary looking, yes, yeah, but they're
• 1:10:31
  also portrayed as scary looking. I think they're very cute. Yeah, I
• 1:10:36
  loved I saw one the high Park the other day. Uh. And he
• 1:10:41
  Bruce Willis climbs up to the top of the crypt keeper's home. Uh.
• 1:10:45
  And the background is just like full on like green scoring, old style green
• 1:10:51
  screen. I loved it. It was great. Yeah. And then on
• 1:10:56
  the other side of the castle or whatever, just his exit north just on
• 1:11:00
  a sign and he tries to like climb down and Helen and Magdalen gets stuck
• 1:11:08
  on like a stick. Oh yeah, he gets stuck on a pipe that
• 1:11:11
  breaks off and his suspenders are suspending him. Uh. And I love that
• 1:11:17
  he's into suspension too. Of course. I love the fact that he's like
• 1:11:24
  trying to save himself. They're trying to save him for a totally different reason.
• 1:11:29
  And there he's like, oh yeah, She's like, yeah, drink
• 1:11:31
  it, come on, just like you live forever, um. And they
• 1:11:35
  keep trying to get him to drink it, and he so happily just like
• 1:11:44
  lets himself go and he pours it out though too. Yeah. I was
• 1:11:47
  gonna say, we didn't say how the potion's made, like you Isabella was
• 1:11:50
  lining cuts his dagger. Yeah, and then you like leak blood into the
• 1:11:56
  potion and then you drink that potion, which is how oh um. Apparently
• 1:12:01
  Jeremy Lank was acne was cured. One of the ways. Um, a
• 1:12:06
  guy from Montenegro made a potion with some of his own like pus from his
• 1:12:13
  like um acne, and he had him applied this like um ointment that was
• 1:12:19
  made with his own, like with part of his own like what's it called
• 1:12:25
  pus puss, and then he put it on and it never came back apparently.
• 1:12:30
  I mean we both know that's not magical. Magical magical lord j Yeah,
• 1:12:34
  totally. My grandfather, my namesake, the person I was named after.
• 1:12:40
  So Bruce Willis falls through glass and falls into a pool and meets Jim
• 1:12:46
  Morrison and runs away, uh and survives, just survives. Um, And
• 1:12:55
  Isabella Russellini is like better, you better get him back, because it's they're
• 1:13:00
  not supposed to reveal that adrenochrome actually solves problems. Um, what is adreno
• 1:13:05
  chrome? Adrina chrome is a fake. It's a real drug that you keep
• 1:13:14
  mentioning it is. I'm guessing it's a conspiracy thing. Oh oh you always
• 1:13:17
  I thought you meant I thought you knew the conspiracy. Oh it's like the
• 1:13:19
  QAnon conspiracy. That's that they think that people are drinking adrenochrome. But adrin
• 1:13:25
  chrome is a real thing that Hunter S. Thompson mentioned in in Um Fear
• 1:13:30
  and Loving in Laws of Vegans really and it's but it's not a it's a
• 1:13:33
  drug, but it's not a hallucinogen. In the movie it's a hallucinogen.
• 1:13:36
  Oh interest, Um, I think speak yeah, Terry Gilliam, Yeah,
• 1:13:42
  of course, transport victim to it makes sense. He's British. Um.
• 1:13:48
  But yeah, then you see the like disgusting peeling body parts of um,
• 1:13:56
  what's her name, Meryl Streep and Goldie Hawn. I love that. Well,
• 1:14:00
  like they're not disgusting yet, they're just like pieces and they're like starting
• 1:14:09
  to like moldy underneath. You know, it's not mold it looks like metal
• 1:14:12
  underneath or something. Yeah, well it's like green right. Oh I don't
• 1:14:16
  know, Yeah maybe now I don't remember, but yeah, I guess they're
• 1:14:20
  it's like greenish gray thirty seven years thirty seven years later. I loved the
• 1:14:25
  final one being such an awkward number so great, well because it's like up
• 1:14:30
  until the end of Bruce Willis's life, because he survived and had a whole
• 1:14:33
  other life. Yeah, so he's supposed to be fifty in this movie and
• 1:14:39
  then he lives for another thirty seven years and you know, a good run.
• 1:14:45
  I think that he survived that fall because he had the strength because Isabel
• 1:14:48
  Ross Lady put a little bit of the magic in his well. They keep
• 1:14:51
  implying yet too throughout the movie, where it's like, but he's magical.
• 1:14:57
  He is old, though at the end of his hand get a little less
• 1:15:00
  old looking when they do the the less hand spots. That was the only
• 1:15:06
  visual that like felt a little bit like, I don't know what I'm looking
• 1:15:11
  at. Yeah, you know, sometimes I was like, is this just
• 1:15:15
  look better? I don't know, Like yeah, totally, it's like but
• 1:15:18
  yeah, by by this point, they just look like they've had They look
• 1:15:25
  like Mickey Roart suddenly Mackey. Their faces are like, um, like they're
• 1:15:30
  like painted and like they're they kind of look like I don't know if you've
• 1:15:32
  ever watched UM Deep Space nine and Star Trek d Space nine. But sometimes
• 1:15:38
  when Odo he's a changeling, he can't go into his liquid form, he
• 1:15:42
  starts peeling like this. Yeah. Yeah, so that's kind of what it
• 1:15:45
  reminded me of. Yeah, when when and and like, oh I can't
• 1:15:47
  find the spray paint. It's like how do you lose spray? That was
• 1:15:53
  such a like good payoff for like when they like trip over the stray pad
• 1:15:58
  and fall and then into doll bits. Yeah, they fall and break into
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  doll bits as Roger parked the car. That was really funny. Yeah,
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  it was really funny. And it it like the fact that this movie makes
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  its own world makes it so good. Yeah, and it makes sense,
• 1:16:19
  it makes sense within itself. Yeah that's great. Yeah. Yeah. I
• 1:16:24
  mean and having the off screen like death of Bruce willis thirty. Yeah,
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  it's kind of amazing and like actually feel like it adds to his character so
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  much that this would be the like deciding factor in him like changing his life
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  completely. Yeah. But like also the fact that they could never let go
• 1:16:44
  of him and they came to his funeral was really interesting. Yeah, and
• 1:16:48
  they kind of scoffing at like all the nice things that they're saying about him
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  and talked about his scary times in Hollywood regale people with stories of never lasting
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  like yeah, yeah, totally totally um. In terms of the rating that
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  I would give this movie, I would definitely give it a nine out of
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  ten. Definitely a red heat. Definitely a nine out of ten for all
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  the reasons that we've talked about, for all the reasons that we talked about
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  so far. In terms of Bruce's I would also give it a nine.
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  It's such a it's such a good bold Zany performance that nobody would None of
• 1:17:32
  the other guys would do a movie like this, None of the other guys.
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  Maybe maybe Stallone Oscar tries to do something like this, but he could
• 1:17:44
  just never get he would never be able to get the balance of darkness right.
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  And also, a role like this requires too much humility. He doesn't
• 1:17:54
  have it. No, he's not. He's not. He doesn't do what
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  He's not willing to be humiliated. No, And he's not willing to look
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  stupid. He's only willing to look stupid on his own terms. He's not
• 1:18:06
  willing to look stupid on to service other characters. Yeah, the filmmaking is
• 1:18:13
  amazing. I wish Roberts Mack has made more movies like this. Um And
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  I know he's like a frontier guy, like I'm pushing the effects and stuff
• 1:18:23
  like that. But like the newer movies don't really create a lot of worlds
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  on their own. They're all like a lot of them are very realist now,
• 1:18:39
  um, but like with like whacky, this is what reality could be.
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  Like that weird Man on the Wire movie that that he didn't watch that
• 1:18:47
  it was terrible. Um, this was like cool visually, but like you
• 1:18:51
  know, even the like Dead Eyed, like uh, like performance capture movies
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  which are cool as like technical things, but like you know which ones were
• 1:19:04
  those like Polar Express and Christmas Carol with Jim Carrey and um what's it called
• 1:19:14
  that? There was that other movie, but you know there's some like I
• 1:19:19
  liked Castaway Robert Szemeckis director, key, Yeah, oh wow, I liked
• 1:19:25
  Castaway. I like Forrest Gump. Right. I always forget that he directed
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  those movies because I always associate him, obviously with with like Tales from the
• 1:19:32
  Christ Roger Rabbit or Back to the Future or like, but those are all
• 1:19:38
  like technical marvels. Like all those movies are technical mass like the thing is,
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  like I think that he, Robert Semeckis, works really well with this
• 1:19:46
  kind of visual storytelling, and I don't think he survives the visual change up
• 1:19:54
  of the like decades past, you know, maybe because he did also that
• 1:19:58
  that plane movie with dens l Uh where Denzelza like the alcoholic who likely lands
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  the plane. But it's almost like for being an alcoholic or whatever or not
• 1:20:10
  persecuted, but like he was drinking on the job right and then, but
• 1:20:13
  still managed to save those people, but not the real one. I don't
• 1:20:18
  think that's based on the real story. That's just like a casually is the
• 1:20:23
  real guy and he wasn't an alcoholic, or maybe it wasn't real. I
• 1:20:26
  don't know anyway, What about you, what do you think? I mean,
• 1:20:29
  I agree, I agree with everything you said, and I do think
• 1:20:32
  we should rate it out of hans and oh yeah, I mean, but
• 1:20:36
  they did like an amazing I mean, she was on a real streep here.
• 1:20:41
  She did such a good job. Do you think did the best better
• 1:20:45
  job? I think Meryl spry job. I think Goldie Han played a good
• 1:20:51
  Goldie Han was perfectly cast. But Goldie Han could not do what Meryl streep.
• 1:20:57
  That's true, but she had less to do. She had a harder
• 1:21:00
  she had a harder job. I think. So that's why I would put
• 1:21:05
  them only slightly less. Only slightly less, yeah, because like point five,
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  because she she if I'm giving it nine strips, I'm giving it eight
• 1:21:15
  point five Hans, I'm gonna ten straps. Yeah, nine point five Hans.
• 1:21:21
  Maybe you're right, Maybe maybe that's true. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:21:24
  Like what is Meryl Streep veteran? She's good in everything. I mean,
• 1:21:30
  we did a we did a really good job. I have doubt,
• 1:21:32
  um, father, I have so much doubt. Oh man, that movie
• 1:21:38
  that being the payoff the name of the movie is so trying to do the
• 1:21:45
  most insane way. Also, that movie tricks you into thinking it's a good
• 1:21:49
  movie and it's not a good Philip Good in that movie him, he's so
• 1:21:57
  good at everything, but also like having him be try that hard though he's
• 1:22:03
  such a he's so good, he's he was Philip, he was amazing.
• 1:22:11
  I mean it every movie. Yeah, I mean really he was. Like
• 1:22:15
  he's one of those Yeah, he's one of those guys who's like understated performances
• 1:22:20
  are always the best where you're just like, whoa dude, Like what why
• 1:22:25
  are you kind of acting? Like tom Noon in here? Well, I
• 1:22:29
  mean all all of those all character actors pulled from the same sort of like
• 1:22:34
  Jack, so same sort of nervous energy. Speaking of Tom du every time
• 1:22:40
  they said as name Jack, I kept thinking Jack, Yeah, totally.
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  Um, all right, see you next week, because yeah, see you
• 1:22:46
  guys next week. Dude, can I ask you something? Yeah, what's
• 1:22:49
  up? How do you feel about Bruce? I mean he's great. How
• 1:22:54
  do you feel about where we are in this season? I mean this is
• 1:22:58
  all where I think we're finally getting into some of the more interesting choices he's
• 1:23:04
  going to be doing, because you know, die Hard is die Hard.
• 1:23:11
  It's a lot like it's a lot like Terminator and Terminator two. Whereas like
• 1:23:20
  when you get into like Commando or like you know, Red Heat or where
• 1:23:28
  it's like something slightly different than what he can do, it's a little bit
• 1:23:32
  more fun for me, you know. Yeah, yeah, well like yeah,
• 1:23:36
  especially also I think for us maybe for us at this point in the
• 1:23:42
  series, thirsty for more. It's a relief to get to talk about these
• 1:23:47
  kinds of movies and to like have it be like next week is in just
• 1:23:50
  like another of Ange Angelo, you know what I mean. Like I'm glad
• 1:23:55
  we're never really gonna get too much of like Director Video and type Man.
• 1:24:02
  Yeah, it's hard because we'll do some of it, but like I don't
• 1:24:05
  want to Sully, what we have going you know what I mean, Like,
• 1:24:10
  I think Bruce needs to end with a bang. Yeah for sure,
• 1:24:14
  a couple of geezers, but we won't dwell. Yeah for sure, We're
• 1:24:17
  not going to dwell with geezers. Al right, next next week, all right,