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Jaguars Happy Hour | Pending Free Agents, NFL Combine & Texans Offseason POV · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, February twenty sixth.
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  Speaker 2: This is jack Bars Happy Out.
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  Speaker 3: And now fresh from the combine, you know, like combining
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  Speaker 3: a nice bourbon with a lovely cigar.
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  Speaker 2: Perhaps J. P.
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  Speaker 4: Chackridge surest me all too well.
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  Speaker 5: Welcome in.
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  Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour and we are back again.
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  Speaker 2: It is Combine week. We are here in Jacksonville. We'll
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  Speaker 2: get to that coming up. Busy show. Mark Lamping had
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  Speaker 2: some updates this week. Jaguars president on the construction for
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  Speaker 2: the Stadium of the Future and the two London game
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  Speaker 2: announcement this year in twenty twenty six. We'll get to
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  Speaker 2: all that coming up. A Combine review sort of. Some
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  Speaker 2: of the Jaguars front office executives were there, others were not.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get into some reasons why we're gonna keep it
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  Speaker 2: real and do that tonight. We're keeping it real a
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  Speaker 2: little bit later.
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  Speaker 4: And AFC South check in the first of three straight weeks.
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  Speaker 2: We'll visit with an opposing announcer this week, the Houston Texans,
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  Speaker 2: Mark VanderMeer. We'll get into their needs this offseason. I
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  Speaker 2: caught it with him on Radio Row in Indianapolis this
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  Speaker 2: week as well. We're on ten Tenexlamjaguars dot Com, Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: YouTube JP, Shadwick with you, and at long last, Jeff
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  Speaker 2: Loghman returns to the mill of Electric Center in the
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  Speaker 2: Hyundai Studios.
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  Speaker 5: It's been way too long, Logs, how are you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing good and your beard has gotten like thick
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  Speaker 4: and bushy. Yeah since the last time I seen you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm kind of digging it. Well, one of these days
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  Speaker 4: when I grow up and be like you, Logs. It
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  Speaker 4: looks like and some of the old wrestling fans Tony
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  Speaker 4: Kahn would know this. Jim Hacksall Dougan beer going on
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  Speaker 4: right now, even two by four, the American flag, the
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  Speaker 4: whole thing, that's right. Yeah, that would be interesting.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, well, we've got a lot to get to
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  Speaker 2: here on a weird week, I mean usually, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: get to this and keeping it real, the Jaguars presence
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  Speaker 2: or lack thereof, of the NFL scouting combine this week
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  Speaker 2: has kind of made some headlines.
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  Speaker 5: We'll get to some reasons.
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  Speaker 2: Why are why and you should not be concerned.
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  Speaker 4: Or you could say was not in the headlines because
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  Speaker 4: they're not there or that or that was some of
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  Speaker 4: the headlines that they weren't there too, erect Well, we'll
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  Speaker 4: get to that and see if it's a big deal. Also,
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  Speaker 4: we've got to hear from Mark Lamping, Jaguars president. He
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  Speaker 4: spoke earlier this week with the media yesterday about some
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  Speaker 4: of the updates.
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  Speaker 2: But let's get us some football, and some reports today
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  Speaker 2: are around the Jaguars, including out of Pittsburgh today. Andrew
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  Speaker 2: Philipponi of ninety three seven The Fan in Pittsburgh reported
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  Speaker 2: today tweeted today that the Steelers have been in talks
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  Speaker 2: with the Jaguars about wide receiver Brian Thomas Junior, and
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  Speaker 2: that the two teams discussed a deal with the deadline
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  Speaker 2: last year. Of course it did not go through. Here
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  Speaker 2: we go, it's that time of year. Free agency starts
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  Speaker 2: Mart's eleventh, the new league year. I mean, the Titans
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  Speaker 2: made a trade today, Tovandre sweats gone. You're gonna start
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  Speaker 2: hearing these kind of things ramp up the next two weeks.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, tovandr set went to the Jets, right, that's right, yea, yeah, yeah. Look,
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  Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of things that can fly
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  Speaker 4: around this time of year, you know, because there's not
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  Speaker 4: a whole lot going on, But then there is a
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  Speaker 4: whole lot going on kind of behind the scenes. So
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  Speaker 4: would I be surprised if there was a conversation about
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  Speaker 4: Brian Thomas soor know? I mean, because look, if somebody's
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  Speaker 4: gonna call me up and I'm James Gladstone, okay, and say, hey, look,
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  Speaker 4: we really have an interest in player X, what do
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  Speaker 4: you think. I'm like, Well, look, everybody's got a price tag.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there's very few in the NFL that don't
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  Speaker 4: have a price tag. You got to be willing to
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  Speaker 4: listen to maybe improve your franchise in a way that
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  Speaker 4: was unexpected, you know. So is it likely that this happened?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know who knows, but if it did happen,
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  Speaker 4: it would not surprise me one bit.
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  Speaker 5: And let's be honest.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the Pittsburgh Steelers when it comes to receivers
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  Speaker 2: last year they had some issues too, right, They had
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  Speaker 2: a couple they lacked in that department, And even with
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Thomas, you know, not having the great statistical season
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  Speaker 2: that we saw in his rookie season, he would still
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  Speaker 2: be right up there.
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  Speaker 5: And what the Steelers are doing this The.
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  Speaker 4: Only thing that I think is a little it makes
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  Speaker 4: me a little bit skeptical on this is that. Look,
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  Speaker 4: I think the Pittsburgh Steelers in a situation where they
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  Speaker 4: don't even know what the quarterback situation is going to be,
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  Speaker 4: and so I just kind of find it maybe a
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  Speaker 4: little bit hard to believe that they would be out
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  Speaker 4: trying to find out about trading for a wide receiver
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  Speaker 4: that you know, I mean, the price tag would not
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  Speaker 4: necessarily big as far as how much money you would
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  Speaker 4: have to pay Brian Thomas Junior. The price tag may
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  Speaker 4: be big when it comes to draft picks, but when
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  Speaker 4: you don't know what your quarterback situation is going to be,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, are you willing to sacrifice a lot of
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  Speaker 4: equity to bring in a what is viewed as a
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  Speaker 4: top end wide receiver for maybe a quarterback that you
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  Speaker 4: don't know who's going to be. That's why kind of
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  Speaker 4: I think that again, I'm skeptical.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of questions.
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  Speaker 2: New head coach of course in Pittsburgh this year, and
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  Speaker 2: we'll see if the old man Rogers.
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  Speaker 5: Comes back or not.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and you know, and maybe they've got a wink
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  Speaker 4: wink handshake deal with Aaron Rodgers to where they say
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  Speaker 4: that they know he's coming back, but he wants all
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  Speaker 4: the publicity about maybe is he going to come.
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  Speaker 5: Back Darkness Retreat and figure it out a couple.
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  Speaker 4: Of that stuff, you know, so that he can get
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  Speaker 4: more attention on himself in the meantime.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but the Darkness Retreat sounds pretty relaxing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, who knows. I mean, there's a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 4: that gets thrown on the wall at this time of year.
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  Speaker 5: True, We'll see, we will see. We do know that
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  Speaker 5: the Jaguars do not have a first round draft.
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  Speaker 4: Pick, Yeah, which kind of makes the draft, I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to say uninteresting because with James Gladstone, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: You never know, and you know what was something like this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you can get a first round
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  Speaker 2: pick for that. Who knows how the deals go, but
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  Speaker 2: I mean maybe you back in somehow or future considerations.
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  Speaker 4: But what I like is that, to me, the meat
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  Speaker 4: and potatoes of the draft is day two and three.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, sexy is day one, and obviously that's the
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  Speaker 4: greatest chance that you get to improve your football team.
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  Speaker 4: But how many picks do the Jaguars have on Day
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  Speaker 4: two and three thirteen? I mean, holy cow, that's a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I mean that's a lot. And there's been drafts in
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  Speaker 4: the past where I have been utterly glued to the
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  Speaker 4: draft ticker, tracker, whatever you want to call it, and
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  Speaker 4: dying to see who's going to be there when the
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars pick, and then once it gets to day two,
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  Speaker 4: my interest level wanes. But when you have a general
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  Speaker 4: manager that has shown, especially this past year, that look,
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  Speaker 4: he's even going to find talent in round seven, I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to be watching that draft ticker tracker, whatever you
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  Speaker 4: want to call it again on day two like crazy,
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  Speaker 4: in Day three like crazy, because I want to see
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  Speaker 4: how he's going to improve this football team, because I
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  Speaker 4: have full confidence.
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  Speaker 5: That he will.
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  Speaker 4: That's different than in year's past. JP. You think, so oh,
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  Speaker 4: totally different, totally different. I truly believe that. And not
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  Speaker 4: only did he do a really good job in the
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  Speaker 4: later rounds and look, in a lot of cases, the
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  Speaker 4: top round picks that we saw this past year, we
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  Speaker 4: didn't get to see a lot of that. We're going
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  Speaker 4: to see a lot of that this year as they've
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  Speaker 4: become healthy. But the undrafted players are also pretty dog
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  Speaker 4: one good by James Gladstone and his crew. So I'm
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  Speaker 4: excited about watching what they can do because I believe
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  Speaker 4: that they're going to be even better this year, having
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  Speaker 4: everything kind of the way that he wants it.
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  Speaker 5: I said thirteen ten picks.
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  Speaker 4: Ten.
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  Speaker 2: They traded away a couple for Jacoby, remember that, which
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  Speaker 2: was totally worth it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they traded a couple for Greg Newsom too. That
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  Speaker 5: didn't work out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that did not work out yet.
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  Speaker 5: Well not yet yet. Free agent coming up he.
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  Speaker 4: Is and if he comes back and then all of
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  Speaker 4: a sudden plays better than you could say, Well, you
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  Speaker 4: know what, you know, it did work out, but as
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  Speaker 4: of but the one part of it that did work
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  Speaker 4: out is the commitment to the contract.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So, and a lot of people don't look at this. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: when you trade Tyson Campbell for Greg Newsom, how much
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  Speaker 4: salary did you push away from your salary cap to
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  Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns? Because when Greg Newsom comes in, there's
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  Speaker 4: no future responsibility to your cap. Right, So, in a
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  Speaker 4: lot of ways, I feel like that that trade was
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  Speaker 4: a win right from the day that it was executed,
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  Speaker 4: no matter what.
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  Speaker 5: Happens financially correct.
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  Speaker 2: We're on tens and Exlamjaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, it
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  Speaker 2: is Jaguars Happy Hour. I got your thoughts on some
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  Speaker 2: of these pending free agents and the two we haven't
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  Speaker 2: had you on. We've had one show. This is our
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  Speaker 2: second show.
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  Speaker 4: Better the show with you last week? Kai Stevens nice. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: she was great. She's our highest rated show to time.
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  Speaker 4: That surprised me because I wasn't hear in Kay's huge.
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  Speaker 4: She's a ratings huge, ratings driver time. She does a
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  Speaker 4: great job. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: But now we're back and you know what free agencies
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  Speaker 2: in two weeks and the two biggest names, the two
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  Speaker 2: names that most people are concerned about, let's say Devin Lloyd, linebacker,
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  Speaker 2: running back Travis et in jor what's your feel.
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  Speaker 4: I think I think they're gonna they're both gonna get
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  Speaker 4: to free agency, and uh, I think you let free
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  Speaker 4: agency kind of see where it's at and then you
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  Speaker 4: still continue to have conversations with the player throughout the process,
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  Speaker 4: you know. And look, I know a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: are very worried about, Oh my gosh, we don't want
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  Speaker 4: to lose Travis etn Oh my gosh, what a year
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  Speaker 4: Devin Lloyd had. We don't want to lose him, you know,
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  Speaker 4: And a lot of people think that if you don't
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  Speaker 4: sign a player prior to free agency starting. Then that
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  Speaker 4: means you don't have an in in that player. That's
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  Speaker 4: not true. Okay, A lot of times it's best to
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  Speaker 4: get to the market to see where the value is
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  Speaker 4: and still to continue to have conversations along the way,
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  Speaker 4: because if you have somebody that is what's the right
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  Speaker 4: way to say this. If you have a general manager
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  Speaker 4: and the people that are having a conversation from the
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars building that are very respectful and appreciative of the player,
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't get into I can't believe you didn't offer
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  Speaker 4: me at all before free agency began. That's disrespectful, right,
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  Speaker 4: And I think that the Jaguars brass has a great
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  Speaker 4: way of showing love to a player, in respect to
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  Speaker 4: a player and appreciation to a player without having to say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: here's a big contract.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 4: And so I think that things could still work. Are
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  Speaker 4: they less likely? Yes, but you know, we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 4: I look, the running back market is devalued. Nobody can
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  Speaker 4: argue that we said that for years. Nobody can argue
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  Speaker 4: that unless you're one of the top tier.
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  Speaker 5: Say Kuon Barkley, what did.
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  Speaker 4: The running back for the Cowboys just signed for oh gosh,
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  Speaker 4: it was like eight it was like seven eight a
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  Speaker 4: year or something like that ballpark three years twenty four yeah, eight, okay,
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  Speaker 4: sixteen million guaranteed. And and then you have Devin Lloyd,
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  Speaker 4: who if you had asked the question after the conclusion
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  Speaker 4: of the twenty twenty four season, would you re sign
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  Speaker 4: Greg Lloyd, the answer would have been no, Devin Lloyd.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Devin Greg Lloyd was thank Steele, Kurtin, thank no.
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  Speaker 4: No with the early nineties, the full great full back.
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  Speaker 4: But if you had asked the question, would you re
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  Speaker 4: sign Devin Lloyd after the twenty twenty three or the
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty four season, they answer have been, now, let's
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  Speaker 4: just kind of wait, let's kind of see what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: And so his option wasn't even picked up. So I
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  Speaker 4: don't want to overreact and say, you know, Okay, well
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  Speaker 4: he's finally arrived and he's going to be able to
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  Speaker 4: play at that level now consistently year in and year out.
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  Speaker 4: I mean to me, I mean so, and I'm not
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  Speaker 4: saying that that's where that he's valuing himself or his
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  Speaker 4: agents in his side is valuing himself at that level.
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  Speaker 4: I would absolutely, I mean that's what you're trying to
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  Speaker 4: get agents. Absolutely, you're trying to get paid, right, But
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  Speaker 4: if you're the team, does that make the most sense
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  Speaker 4: for somebody that had, you know, kind of okay, not
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  Speaker 4: great years and then bam, all of a sudden has
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  Speaker 4: a you know, a fantastic year And here's the reality.
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  Speaker 4: And look again, and this is with all respect Devin
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  Speaker 4: Lloyd at times and coverage is not great.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's why they played him in a different spot
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  Speaker 2: last year, a little more downhill, closer to.
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  Speaker 4: Downhill, they and they used him in a role that
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  Speaker 4: actually accentuated his positive trace, which was allowing him to
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  Speaker 4: go after the quarterback, to be a blitzer and not
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  Speaker 4: as much in coverage.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, two years ago he's chasing guys twenty five yards
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  Speaker 2: down the field.
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  Speaker 5: That's not a good guy.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't work out very well, No, it did not, No, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 4: So but again I think that that things could possibly
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  Speaker 4: get done. But do I think it's likely with Devin Lloyd?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 4: Is it likely with with Etn? I think it's probably
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  Speaker 4: The chance is greater with Travis Etn than it would
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  Speaker 4: be with Devin Lloyd. And that's just me, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know any inside information, just guessing.
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  Speaker 5: We got plenty ahead.
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  Speaker 2: We got to hear from Mark Lamping, Jaguars president, spoke
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  Speaker 2: with the media yesterday on some construction updates for the
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  Speaker 2: Stadium of the Future and the London Games next year
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  Speaker 2: and a little later. We'll keep it real about the
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  Speaker 2: Big Three for the Jaguars not attending the Combine. Is
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  Speaker 2: it a big dealer not, We're gonna keep it real, Logs.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, We've got Shall I share my combine story?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if I should share that. Well, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you got some time to think about it. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: kind of give you a preface of it during a
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  Speaker 4: commercial break, and then you can tell me whether or
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  Speaker 4: not that this is for radio or not.
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  Speaker 2: Well, okay, we'll be back in just a few moments
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  Speaker 2: for the thrilling conclusion of that. It's Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. JP Shadwick with
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  Speaker 2: Jeff Logman. We're at the Hundai Studios test driving Hundai
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  Speaker 2: today only at your local Hyundaid dealer ten ten Xlamjaguars
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  Speaker 2: dot Com, Jaguars YouTube each and every Thursday coming up shortly.
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  Speaker 2: Keeping it real about the Jaguars leadership not attending the combine.
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  Speaker 5: We'll see if it's a big deal or not.
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  Speaker 2: Jaguar President Mark Lamping visited with the media yesterday, had
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  Speaker 2: some updates on stadium construction. The London Games were announced
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  Speaker 2: yesterday as well. We start with construction and the stadium
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  Speaker 2: with the future. From the Jags president, we.
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  Speaker 1: Always said that, you know, if the end result was
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  Speaker 1: just a shiny new football stadium, then collectively, I think
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  Speaker 1: we would have missed a huge opportunity. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we we were really proud of not only the Community
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  Speaker 1: Benefits Agreement, but also.
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  Speaker 6: To make certain commitments to.
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  Speaker 1: Make sure that that during the construction period our project
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  Speaker 1: benefited the community to the maximum that it could. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, we call these community construction metrics. We're running
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  Speaker 1: ahead on all of them. The local, small and emerging businesses,
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  Speaker 1: we're running ahead of what our goal was a local
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  Speaker 1: business participation. We're running ahead. In fact, as we as
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  Speaker 1: we sit here today, we've got over one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: forty local contractors that have already been doing work.
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  Speaker 5: Smart Lamping, Jaguars President, more for him coming up.
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  Speaker 2: The seating capacity next season will be forty two thousand
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  Speaker 2: five hundred and seven. That means the Jags are losing
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  Speaker 2: just under twenty eight thousand seats, twenty two thousand of
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  Speaker 2: those in the upper deck, a spat deck, and the
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  Speaker 2: sky pattio will be offline on the North End zone
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. I've looked out the window a
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  Speaker 2: second ago and part of it's gone, so it's not
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  Speaker 2: available for next year. Season ticket renewal info is coming
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  Speaker 2: soon and season ticket members impacted will be individually contacted
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  Speaker 2: by their ticketing rep so they'll have some preferred pricing
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  Speaker 2: options for those relocating from upstairs to downstairs. And we
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  Speaker 2: see it when you walk in logs. If you're away
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  Speaker 2: for a month or so you come back, is a
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  Speaker 2: totally different scene out here, and they are moving quickly
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  Speaker 2: to get ahead of this twenty twenty six season.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it definitely was big change for me because I
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  Speaker 4: haven't been around here for a month or so, and
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  Speaker 4: then you could see all of the different level constructions
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  Speaker 4: where they're literally almost like totally encapsulating the entrance to
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  Speaker 4: the West Club now, and so it's is definitely going
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  Speaker 4: to be different next year, you know, with the upper
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  Speaker 4: level's gone and the seating capacity reduced by twenty plus
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  Speaker 4: thousand and whatever, and it's going to make an obviously
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  Speaker 4: very hot ticket and I think people are going to
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: want to make sure that they get to the front
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: of line, so to speak, if you want to see it.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: And also along the way kind of have a little
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: bit of patience for those that may have to be
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: relocated or whatever. But the end result is going to
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: be real, real positive, I think for this community. It's
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: going to have an amazing stadium with a lot of
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: amenities that people are going to absolutely love and with
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: hopefully a fantastic football team.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: And Lamping said it again yesterday that the original plan
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: had the Jaguars being away for two seasons. This was
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: a solution to have football in Jacksonville this season, and
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: that's going to happen. So it'll be an intimate environment. Yeah,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I think too.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, and I know that a lot of this
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: is still TBD, you know, to be determined about. You know, Okay,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: we're talking a lot about twenty twenty six this year. Okay,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: what about twenty twenty seven. I know the lot of
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: the things are still kind of in motion for that.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: I know you're going to get to the London games
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: here in a minute. But you know, I think it's
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: going to be a very cozy environment with forty two
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: thousand people and six home games, you know, so that's
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: a limited number, but I'm excited about it. I'm excited
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: about and I hope that some of the access points
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: are going to be very favorable for the fans as well.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Six regular season home games, a couple of preseason games,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: two games to home games in London this year, Mark Lamping,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Jaguars President.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: We were scheduled to play an additional game in twenty thirty.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: We work with the league. The league has agreed to
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: move that game to twenty twenty six. So what that
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: means is we're getting a game back that will be
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville in the new stadium at full capacity, and
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: we're giving up a game at reduced capacity in the
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: stadium here. And it also helps us regarding the construction.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: So that's happening for sure, So we think. You know,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: obviously many fans wont every single game to be played
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville. We understand that, but in this particular case,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: trading a game in a stadium under construction with reduced
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: capacity and getting a game back in our brand new stadium.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: We think that makes sense for all involved.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Spark Lamping Jaguars president. So yes, the Jaguars will play
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: a home game at Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium as part of
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: the NFL's agreement. As he mentioned there moving a twenty
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: thirty date to twenty twenty six to fulfill the league obligation,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: and then they'll play the traditional home game at Wimbley
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: the next week.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: Back to back weeks.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: The dates and the opponents to be determined closer or
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: to be announced a little later closer to the schedule announcement.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Usually they leaked those out a week or so the
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: week of the schedule announcement, the international opponents and things,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: so keep an eye on that moving ahead. Traditionally, though,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars and the London games have been in the
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: October window, so you can probably I would guess that
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: would be a similar result this year. But yeah, two
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: in a row in London for the Jaguars at home.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is this is good. I mean,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: this is good for the fan base. I mean it's
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: I think it impacts less Jaguar fans by taking a
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: game out of rotation this year and then getting an
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: extra one in twenty thirty because you're talking about forty
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: thousand people this year versus capacity of the new stadium
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: in thirty, so you can have more people to be
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: able to see a Jaguars game at that point. Now,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: then the reality also is is that the economics also
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: makes sense. Okay, I mean, do you what's the revenue
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: on a forty thousand seat Lower Bowl Stadium under construction
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: versus Tottenham.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Or eighty seven thousand, right, you know?
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: And I mean look, and I know Mark Lamping doesn't
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: even really mention that because that's I don't think at
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: the forefront of his mind. But the reality is you're
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: running a business, too, right, I mean, aren't you trying
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: to make a little money if you pay players and
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: signing bonuses and all that other stuff too. So it
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: just makes it just makes so much sense to do
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: it that way. And credit to Mark Lamping and the
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Jaguars for working with the league on that.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So those are the updates. He also did mention
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: yesterday that the resolution for twenty twenty seven home game
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: sites will come out of the NFL annual Meeting, the
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: owners meeting at the end of March.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: They're waiting for.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: The official vote, the final blessing on that from league ownership,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: and then they can have an announcement of where. I mean,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: most posts, everybody knows it's coming down to Gainesville and Orlando.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Those have been the to talking points and doesn't seem
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: to be in the mix much.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: I don't think they're in the mixing.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: That would have been an interesting place at least, Yeah, yeah.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: But it's just not feasible. Yeah, it would have been
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: a little tough, made some headlines. Yeah, you could have.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: You could have put like stands up on the banks
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: of the track.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Can you imagine the tailgating in the infield?
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: That would be come on, crazy cool? You think you
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: could have sold that as a premium. Yeah, it would
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: have been pretty cool. Yeah, but it would have been Wow,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: what an undertaking. You could actually have a game inside
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: the track and then how a race going on at
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: the same time.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: That seems safe for everybody involved. It really does. Hey,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: let's come back in a moment. We got to keep
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: it real. We've been pushing it off too long. We've
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: been faked this whole time. We're gonna keep it real now.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Logs about the Jaguars leadership not attending the comb.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: But you attended the combay I went, I mean wow,
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I went, So leave me out of.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: And forty other Jaguar employees.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Did you well, I'm where your logo to peril?
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Did the shirt I'd left this morning? I'm wearing the
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: same shirt I wore this morning.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: You just got that.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: I literally got back. Wow.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Literally did you hold press conferences?
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: And everything? Over there? Did I hold press conferences? They
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: did not have me.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: You hit radio row.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: I walked around radio.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Back in a moment, keeping it real, and we'll hear
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: from Mark vandermir, voice of the Houston Texans.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Coming up, It's Jaguars Happy Hour. Welcome back.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour from the Hondai Studios, ten
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: to Xtlamjaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick with Jeff Loggaman.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Glad you're along with us on this Thursday afternoon. We're
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: here at four o'clock on Thursdays each and every week
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: in the off season.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: It is time now logs for something we don't.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Do normally on Thursdays. We do it on Mondays every
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: week during the season. Okay, we keep it real, presented
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: by nobody.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Well, we've been kind of keeping it real on this
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: show for years.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: That's what you think, that's what I know. We're about
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: to find out how really you get what you got?
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: And it's about the Jaguars Big Three. Liam Cohen, James Gladstone,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Tony Boselli did not attend the NFL Scouting Combine this year,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: taking a page from the La Rams playbook. The last
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: few years, their leadership has not gone either, however, so
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: they're taking a little bit, a little bit of flak
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: for that was usually the first question I was asked
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: walking around Radio Row.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: Why aren't they here? Why aren't they what's going on?
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: What's the deal?
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: And then then they realize, oh yeah, there are forty
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: other staffers for the Jaguars there, whole scouting department is there.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: For the most part. Medical staff is there, which was.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: The original purpose for the combine to begin.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: With, right, So it's not like the Jaguars are not
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: represented there. They're doing interviews with prospects, they're timing and
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: testing players on the field, and the medical staff looked
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: at like one hundred guys yesterday alone.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: So that all is going on, does it matter that
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: the Big three are not there? Though? In the long run.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Well, I think it matters that they're not there because
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: they can actually have more productive use of their time
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: by not being there. Let me ask you a question, JP, Yes, sir, okay,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: because one of the arguments about being there is that, okay, look,
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: you get to see the prospects, you get to see
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: how they interact, and you get to spend fifteen minutes
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: talking to them in a room by yourself, okay. Which
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: most of those guys are all prepped and ready for
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: that type of interview, right. They work with their agents,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: they work with interview coaches, the whole nine yards, prepping
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: for the whole combine experience speed dating. So the amount
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: of time that it takes to interview the prospect and
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: then also the amount of time that it takes to
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: get to the combine, to travel between prospect interviews, et cetera,
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: et cetera, Could you spend better time vetting the player,
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: talking to people that was around the prospects to get
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: a true one standing of what that person is in
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: his true environment versus a fifteen minute conversation sitting down
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: watching film or just having a conversation.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: Right, It's an excellent point.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: I mean to me, I want to go and make
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: phone calls and talk to his college coach, his college buddies,
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: people that he grew up with. I mean, do background
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: checks the whole nine yards. I mean to me, the
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: total vetting process should not be a fifteen minute interview.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: To me, if you're putting so much emphasis on fifteen minutes,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: you're missing the boat. You can't find out what the
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: true value, the true being of that person is in
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: that fashion. Now, there are some that will shine in
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: that interview, okay, and they may end up turned out
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: to be great guys, great people. And there are some
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: that will shine in that interview that when they walk
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: out of that door, they will morph fright back into
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: the turd that they were before they walked in that door, right, Okay,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: that's the reality. So I want to find out if
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: this guy is good or bad outside in his normal environment.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: And later in the pre draft process you can get
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: prospects on the zoom and talk to him remotely. If
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: there's thirty visits as well, and I don't know if
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: they're going to do those. They didn't do him last week. Again,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: I mean making the best use of your time. Would
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: you rather watch an extra film on guys to really
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: understand their skill set and talk to people that was
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: around that player. I just think, you know, the only
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: thing I think that you lose out on from the
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: combine standpoint is the exposure for the organization for all
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: the media and other markets around the league.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Because there's podium time for both the GM and the
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: head coach, and they make the rounds and they're on
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Pro Football Talk and they're on McAfee and all these things.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: And it's the same thing kind of we talk about
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: when it comes to the draft and that hey, look,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: use your allotted time when you're on the clock, because
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: your logo and you're in the conversation on the TV
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: is about your football team and where it's at and
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: your organization, the players, et cetera, et cetera. So that's
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: stuff that you can't pay for. So in a lot
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: of ways, you know, would you like to have somebody
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: there for that exposure, publicity, et cetera. Yeah, maybe, but
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: are there other ways to get that? Okay, the most
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: important way to get that is to win football game,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: absolutely right, And so if you're spending your energy trying
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: to be smart and getting really good football players, that's
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: probably more important than spending a little bit of time
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: in Indianapolis to meet the media.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: And the other part of it too.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Liam Cohen did a lot of that stuff super Bowl week.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: He went around Radio ro because he was.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: There for the honors and you know, came in second
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: in the Coach of the Year voting.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: And also, look, you can do a lot of that
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: stuff from here.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: You can talk to the media, et.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Cetera, from your home city and from your office here,
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: et cetera. So yeah, I mean, you know, the reality
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: is is that when you go all the way back
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: to the beginning of the combine, the foundation of the
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: combine was a medical check. That's what it was. And
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: now it's turned into more of that just beginning of
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: the popularity of the NFL has just skyrocketed and people
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: can't get enough of the NFL. And so as this
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: kind of dead period exists, this kind of fills a
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: little bit of the fans void for football, and people
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: now have gotten into the forty times and the measurements
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: and interviews and the conversation conversation about prospect, conversation about teams,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: and so I mean, I get it. But again, the
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: very foundation beginnings of the combine was about medical.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Well, I have a feeling, well you had kind of
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: a medical story the Combine.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: But I don't know if we need to go that deep.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: You know, recruiting practices of some agents are interesting. Yeah,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Now it's not like it used to be. Agents are
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: sign much earlier. Now it's not you're not like searching
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: for you know. But I don't know how detailed we
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: need to get into that.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: No, I just don't just say this. You know, when
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: when when I was at Virginia, I mean I was,
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: you know, clean cut, kind of young guy.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: You were getting ready for the draft. You had to
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: be clean cy and you try to unpress teams.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: I just, you know, I didn't realize that there was
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: this this level of filth that existed in the agent business.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: I mean I didn't know, you know what I mean.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: I thought all people were good and kind of wholesome
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: and honest. I didn't realize that there was a slimy
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: element that existed in parts of this world. And so
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: I had to combine one time. I mean, he had, oh,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: here we go, they get to tell the story a
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: little bit.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: Okay, clean it up.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: I was at the Common I'll clean it up. Is
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: that the combine, and I already had an agent. I
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: had Brad Blank, who was based out of Chestnut Hill, Boston, Massachusetts,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: who was wonderful. He was a great agent, did a
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: great job and still does some things to this day.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: And I'll tell you a cool story about that too
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: in a minute. But so I'd already had Brad, you know,
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: and we were hanging out with some of the scouts
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: and stuff that we're friends of his. And we happened
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: to be at one of the hotels and sitting there
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: with Brad, and all of a sudden, some agent comes
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: up and introduces himself to me, and you know, he's
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: got slick back hair, and he's got a very pretty
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: woman with him, and and there was a lot of
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: insinuation about because I didn't say, hey, this is Brad,
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: my agent. I just say, this is a friend of mine, Brad,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: and this is you know, a friend of the family
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: that's here with me at the combine who happened to
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: be a scout for the New Orleans Saints at that time.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: And this agent comes up, you know, he sits down,
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: he's talking all this stuff, and there's this very very again,
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: very pretty woman with him. And and it was, uh,
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: what's the right way to say this. It was very
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: uncomfortable because she was looking at me. Oh I see,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: and you could tell that that was kind of her job,
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: I guess. And I'd never really been in that situation before.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: And I was very embarrassed because I mean I was like,
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: what is going on here? And then when they left,
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: Thank goodness they left, Brad talked to me and he goes, man,
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: he goes, that was very different. I said, yeah, because
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: the girl was not like an associate of his. It
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: was a she was an associate of his in some way. Yeah, yeah,
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: kind of like that. Yeah. That was yeah, not cool.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: So the story is you stayed with your agent. You
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: didn't bolt to go to the other agent. Oh no, no, no, no,
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: just making sure everybody's on the same page.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: That's fine.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: No, But yeah, there were some guys that were very
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: excited to me eat this agent's associate at the combine.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you that. And I'm not gonna mention any names.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: I won't probably not, probably not.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Hey, we've got Speaking of the Combine, I was there
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: this week and caught up with all of the AC
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: South announcers and starting tonight, in the next three weeks,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: we'll hear from one of each of the teams each week.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: How about that? Who you got today?
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: We're gonna start at the top, Well, the Jaguars at
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: the top and second place, we'll go straight down the list.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Vanderm in terms of rank, in terms of standing, you
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: got the Texans played by play guard Mark Random, Mark
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: vander Yeah, goode been at it since day one of
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: the texts him and uh andre Ware andre Ware formed
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: the team of the Houston Texans radio broadcast and henre Ware, former.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: Jaguar, was he wasn't he a Jaguar for a minute?
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: No? I don't think so. Was it he here?
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: I thought he was here for a minute.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: You're just making this stuff. I don't know.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: He's a good dude though. He's one of my favorite guys.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: He's been Trophy by the way. His the job that
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: he does on college football is tremendous. He does a
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: really good job on college football.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: So starting tonight, it's look at the division rivals and
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: inside look tonight at the Houston Texans that hated Houston
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Texans with Mark vandermer Well.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: First of all, JP, I'm glad you said the hated
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Texans because I think we got to lean into this
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: this friendly, fun rivalry stuff.
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: I was on with Matt Taylor and the Colts, and
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: I said, listen, the Colts are my sworn, mortal football enemy.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Like I hate the Colts more than anything.
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: Sports wise in this world. I always feel like.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Hate belongs in sports, not in real life. Right, So
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: in sports we're allowed to hate. It's healthy hate. I
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: love Matt, and I love the people at the Colts,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: and I love you, and I love Frank and everybody.
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: Works with the Jaguars and John and et cetera.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: But hey, it's odd when we're on the field, right,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: and the Jaguars are a big rival, of course. And
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: I didn't like it at all that we're chasing down
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: the Jaguars down the stretch of the season and they
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: refused to lose. They just kept it going. And the
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: game at Denver, I thought, well, this time, it's definitely
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: over now. I mean, they did what they did before
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: it is over against Denver, and it wasn't. So that
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: was a real tough pill to swallow that the Jags
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: won the division. Luckily for the Texans, they still got
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: into the postseason.
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: But I think the Jags are very dangerous.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: And I thought Trevor Lawrence, I didn't know what was
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: going to happen. You know, it was down, it was up,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: it was down again, and now it's up again. And
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: now Liam Collins seems to have figured something out with
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: him and they got it going on. So very good
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: rivalry developing here and it's going to be exciting this
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: year and beyond Mark.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: This Houston defense was so nasty this season. They just
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: had an extra bite to them. It felt like they
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: just wanted to suffocate whoever they played in Houston history. Right,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: where does it ring in terms of defensive seasons all time?
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: This is the best season defensively we've seen from the Texans. Now,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: we've had some good defenses. Number two and twenty eleven
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: that was good. That was Wats rookie year, but it
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: was really about him. It was Brian Cushing and Demiko
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Ryans and Wade Phillips coaching the d for the first time.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Twenty twelve was pretty good. They're the number one defense
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: in the league yardage wise. In twenty sixteen, number three
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: and fifteen led the league in takeaways, I believe in
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: fourteen or close to it, and so they've had some
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: good ones JP, but this was not only good yardage
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: wise points per game. They finished second to the Seahawks
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: by two tenths of a point because the Texans rested
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: guys in Week eighteen, the Colts put up thirty had
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: they held them to twenty. The Texans are winning both
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: categories and we're looking at possibly historic defense.
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: Have they been able to advance.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: On the postseason? Everyone talks about the Seattle defenses. That's
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: the next legion to boom or whatever, or legion.
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: To doom whatever.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: To me, I'm really regretful of the way it all ended.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: But this defense was taken us for such a fun
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: rise ride. All the turnovers forced, all the great opportunities,
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: all the great moments throughout. It was really fun to watch.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: And they all get along so well. It's a tight
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: unit on and off the field.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: Is it sustainable on defense?
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: How many holes are coming up free agency and otherwise.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Everybody's back other than Sheldon Rankins at defensive tackle. Fully
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: fun of Kasi and also Tim Settle those three guys,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: But have they if they do nothing? If they have
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: to play a game this weekend, for instance, they have
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Tommy Togiai coming back and Mario Edwards returning from injury.
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: So those two.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Guys right there are good starters if you will for them.
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: But I think Rankins is really important.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: If he doesn't come back in free agency, I don't
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: know what they do. They have to find a way
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: to at least replace him. Not only caliber or play JP,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: but also the kind of leader he is. Rankins is
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: great for this team. So Rankins. Tim Settle is another
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: good one.
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: So they that was the.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: One position that got injury bitten on defense, along with
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: say the opposite Kaylen Bullock.
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: So safety was never really in great shape. MJ.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Stewart held it down for a while. They used numerous
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: players back there. Jalen Reid got healthy at the end
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: of the season, the rookie from Penn State. That was
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: pretty good. But let me tell you, everybody's back, daneil Hunter,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Will Anderson Junior. I mentioned Togii as he's au Schier's back.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: You got the two corners back, maybe the two best
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: corners or at least among them in the NFL. Greg
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Cosell was on with us. He thinks Calen Bullock is
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: the best deep safety in the league. He's back, of course,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: So this is gonna be fun to watch them operate again.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Probably not for Jaguars, Colts and Titans fans, but we'll
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: see how it goes.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Mark Vandermer, Voice of the Houston Texans. Let's go to
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: offense now, and Davis Mills had to comeback to beat
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars and started that whole run down the stretch.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: How many questions are there about CJ. Stroud and his
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: future and where he sits in the organization, Well, just
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: like any topic with the jack and I'm sure you
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: guys look at it like this, there's what the.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: People outside the building think, and the people inside the
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: building might have a different opinion, right, and we might
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: have a different opinion than everybody, So who knows. But
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: my opinion is this that when you look at CJ. Stroud,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: this is a fact. The season he had, they improved
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: in so many different categories. Offensively, they never really lit
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: it up, but he made some clutch throws.
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: It was timely hitting. To me, it's like baseball.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: You know, they stole second and they got the base
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: knock when they needed it to drive the runner home
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: and bam, they go home with a win. Even Mills Yeah.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: He had that third and goal from the fourteen run
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: against the Jaguars, which I think is the play of
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: the year for the Texans, completely turned their season around.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: The next week, we're at Tennessee and it's thirteen thirteen
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: and it's gonna go bad maybe, and it's third down
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: and sixteen in Houston's end of the field. Mills hits
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Nico Collins for the conversion. They eventually hit the field goal.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Get out of there. That was timely hitting on the offense,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: and CJ had a number of throws like that throughout
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: the course of the year. I think CJ is going
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: to be fine, but he's got to shake off the
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: playoff performance.
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: I mean against the Patriots. Four picks in the first half.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: He obviously can't have that because if all you do
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: is putt, if all you do is hang out of
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: the ball and putt, you probably win that game. And
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: they tried to force a few things. Now, in fairness
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: to him, No, Trent Brown, that was a late scratch
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: in that game. Nico Collins already out, Dalton Schultz goes
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: out relatively early. Got to overcome those things. Another thing
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: JP is, since he came back from the concussion. He
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: stopped running with the football to protect himself and you
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: got to I get it. But in the playoffs, man,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: it is so tough. Look at Drake May he ran
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: the daylights out of the football. Bo Nicks runs with
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: the football. I know Knicks got hurt, but you.
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: Know what I'm saying.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: You got to be able to take off and run
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: with it, and he was reluctant to do it, and
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: for health reasons.
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: I get it.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: It affected them though, because the other weapons that I
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: just mentioned were down, so it was another reason why
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: they couldn't get it going offensively.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Final one with you, what are the two greatest needs
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: this offseason for.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Houston offensive line configuration? And we said this about last year,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: but they're still working on it because at Ingram played
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: really well for them. At guard, he's a free agent.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: They got to figure that out if nothing else. And
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: at right tackle, Trent Brown's a free agent and the
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: winning streak was built with Trent Brown at right tackle.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: So do they like Blake Fisher? Do they go somewhere else?
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I know people don't like to hear about offensive lineman
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: on other teams, but that is a big topic. And
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: running back because Nick Chubb's a free agent. Wood he
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Mark's coming back. Great, but who's the other guys at
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Chubb coming back?
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that would be enough for them.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Everyone asks about Joe Mixon. I have no idea. I
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: would doubt that they would rely on him. It'd be
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: great to have him back, but I think even if
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: they traded for Kenneth Walker and Mixon came back, to'd
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: be like, Okay, great luxury problem, let's deal with it.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Not traded for Kenneth Walker, signed him in free agency.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: Whatever.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: But you get my drift here. I think running back
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: and the old line. But every team Johnny and I
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: John Harrison, I did a whole show on under the
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: radar needs, and every team has those two. For instance,
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Tommy Townsend, the punter is a free agent. You gotta
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: get a punter, and it's a really important position on
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: a football team. I mean, people pooh poo it, but
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: ask the coaches in the front office. Oh, no, we
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: need a punter. We need somebody to pin the ball deep.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Are you kidding?
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: We need somebody to get the ball off cleanly.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Go watch a combine workout of punters and you'll see
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: why punters last ten to.
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: Fifteen years in this league. They're hard to find.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, Mark, and let the rivalry continue.
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, JP, let's go.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Mark Vandermier, voice of the Houston Texans. Always a pleasure
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: to visit with him. Next week we'll hear from the
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts and Matt Taylor.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: They've got a lot work to do in Indy.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, obviously Houston split the season series
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: with the Jaguars. That game in Houston, the blown seventeen
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: point lead turned the season for both teams. Neither team
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: lost after that, and of course Houston goes in as
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: a wild card twelve and five, five and one on
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: the division. They win in the first round card game,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: they beat the Steelers thirty to six, and then they
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: lost to the Patriots who were on that role in
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: the AFC Divisional playoff game. And yeah, offensive line really
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: was a big question mark a lot of this season
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: in Houston, a lot of injuries, a lot of changes
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: up front.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I look, I know that it was interesting
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: here about how there's an opinion outside about c. J.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Stroud versus inside and all that stuff and his opinion
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: and look, the reality is is that their quarterback. His
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: rookie year was a year that you were sitting there thinking,
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: to Miselle yourself, this is the next Patrick Mahomes. And
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: then since then it's been nothing but disappointment. And you've
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: got a defense that is hands down the best defense
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: in the National Football League, and they bailed him.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: Out constantly, absolutely.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Constantly down the stretch and they were winning because of
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: the defense and not because of their quarterback c J. Stroud.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: So how he develops in the future is obviously gonna
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: be a paramount to their chances of success. But that
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: defense is legit if they add to it, because from
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: listening to him, it seems like everybody contractually that they
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: want to keep is gonna come back. So they have
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: the ability to make that defense even better, which is scary.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: And uh, they've got to find a way to help
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: their quarterback out, and he's got to find a way
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: to help himself out.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Let's return and we'll hear from Microsoft co pilot. It's
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: also another thing we do on Monday Show. We're gonna
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: hear from Microsoft. We're not gonna hear, We're gonna look
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: at it. It doesn't talk to you.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: Oh I thought maybe we're gonna hear it talk. No,
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: I don't think I thought. I thought the open doors house.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: I was just wondering did I miss something while I've
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: been out for the last month.
• 44:44
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• 44:47
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• 44:58
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• 45:02
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• 45:06
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• 45:09
  Speaker 5: With a division rival quarterback situation.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: The question how long does Anthony Richardson have remaining on
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: his contract with the Colts? Of course, well, Richardson is
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: in the third year of his four year rookie contract,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: which runs through the twenty twenty sixth season. He'll become
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: a fourth year player March eleventh, when the league year begins,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: and they have until May first to figure out if
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: they want to take the fifth year.
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: Option on him or not.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: They also set Today reports today that he can go
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: find a trade if he wants to. His representation can
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: go try to find one. Yeah, absolutely with the Colts.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and you do you think anybody is
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: gonna trade for him. Here's the crazy answer. Yeah, probably, Yeah,
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: he's a freak athlete. Well, I mean you think gets
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: hurt a lot. I mean, well, I mean he gets
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: hurt a lot, but he's a freakish athlete. But the
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: reality is is that, you know, quarterbacks on rookie contracts
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: are not cost prohibitive, correct, So if you want to
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: take it for a spin, you know, test drive the
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: car a year, so to speak, with with zero commitment
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: or obligation to pay any previous signing bonus, all you're
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: paying is paragraph five, which is you know salary. You
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: know the signing bonus has already been paid and gone.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: You wouldn't have any of that associated with your cap.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: I think there may be somebody that would be willing
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: to do that for you know, a biscuit, you know,
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: late seventh round, seventh round, sixth round pick, whatever you
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: want to think, because look, the reality is is that
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: that's the most valuable position on the field, period. And
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: there are some people that will go back and look
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: at their evaluations of Anthony Richardson back when he was
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: draft eligible and will rely on those and assume that
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: you know what, hey, we can coach them up. You know,
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: why would we not want to have an athlete of
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: that caliber. They didn't know what they were doing down here.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: We know they would do a good job.
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: We have some answers. We have the system that Anthony
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: Richardson can thrive in. I mean I wouldn't. I would
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: not be surprised. And I think some of this can
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: be a little bit of arrogance at times that they
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: think that they can make a player. But Minnesota Vikings,
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: and I'm not saying that it's arrogance, but quarterback friendly
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: systems that quarterbacks that have previously been cast off to
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: where they have thrived. Two places jump out and come
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: to mind. One of them is quarterback needy Minnesota Vikings.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: The other one San Francisco forty nine ers. Would you
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: not take a gamble with Kyle Shanahan trying to teach
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: somebody that has talents of those caliber?
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: Interesting?
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: You know, so Rochester, that will be interesting to watch.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: A few quick headlines here. Mike Evans, the Bucks wide receiver.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: His agent said today that he wants to look at
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: all all thirty two teams in free agency.
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: Would you dare?
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think he's a great wide receiver. Still to
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: this day, he's a Hall of Fame wide receiver and
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: he still plays at an incredibly high level. He had
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: some injuries last year, but look, that's the game of football.
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: It's not like he had injuries because he was old.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: He's still producing at a crazy level. Absolutely, I would
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: consider him.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: You hat like a long game with a catch streak too,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: like something ridiculous.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: He's so good. Yeah, when the ball's in the air,
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: do you ever think for a minute that he's not
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: going to come down with it?
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, he's still got speed, got great catch radius.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Take him any day of the week.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: A couple other notes here. Top defensive line prospect at
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Ruben Bain Junior out of Miami had his arm length
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: measured at the combine under thirty one inches.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: That's pretty short.
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: Have you turned on the tape?
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: He's pretty good?
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I call that the the let's not get
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: overly concerned with the measurement factor, you know, because there
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: were some guys that last time I checked, played pretty
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: good football when their measurements didn't exactly measure up to par.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: According to a lot of people's levels of acceptance, certain
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: on the Miami Notre Dame game and then answer that
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: question for me. He was, I mean freak show with
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: Dwight Freenye did he have very long on I think
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: he was okay too.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Another division rival, the Titans, acquiring defensive end Jermaine Johnson
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: from the Jets for Tovandre's Sweat the big nose tackles
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: out of the division.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: Now, yeah, you know what, And that's very interesting trade
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: for me because Devandre Sweat doesn't exactly have a very
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: good reputation off the field, and so you're going to
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: an organization that needs to try to build something. To me,
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: that's uh, that's interesting. But Jermaine Johnson I think is
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: a very good football pro bowler.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: Uh, But Tovandre Sweat, I don't know if he would
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: be what you would consider a cultural building block at all.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: We'll be back next week. Newly Year starts March eleventh,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: the start a free agency, then the NFL Annual meeting,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: and of March. We've got a little bit of time
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: between now and the next tent Pole event Logs.
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: We'll see you next week.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: You got it, Jeff log But I'MTP Shadduck And thanks
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: to Joe Fortunado and Brent Reaver, and thanks to you
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: for listening and watching.
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: It's Shaguars Happy Hour.