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BEYOND: The Toxic Avenger(2025) Review! · WASD and Beyond

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If you could have a tail, would you have a tail?
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If it was like a prehensile tail so I could like grab stuff with.
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It like I'm talking like Goku. Like Goku.
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I don't know. I don't know what he has like a.
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Little monkey tail that can grab shit.
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What you're talking about? Yeah, that's what I'm talking
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about. What about?
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You get my hang. What about like a Navi tail?
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The Navi tail doesn't do anything unless you're the water
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one then it helps you to swim and I don't know what good that
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would do for me. But otherwise tail connect.
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To the animals, right? No, that's not with the tail.
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The tail doesn't do that. Shit.
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Oh, that's there. Could you?
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Could you use it for anything Way cool if.
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It if it was a prehensile tail you could use it, but if it
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wasn't it would be like being a dog.
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But could you use it for like jabbing?
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It's like a cat I could use. It to like hold a bat something.
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But could you use it to jab? Yeah, probably.
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I guess like a big boxing glove on the end of it.
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No, I don't think you want to do that for what I'm asking what?
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Are you talking about? I don't.
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Know what you're asking? Are you being welcome back to
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the show, everybody? We are your hosts, Nick.
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Oh, so so I am going there is some loud there is some loud
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noise coming from someone's mic. I.
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Think it's Noah some. Loud noise, is it my fan?
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I don't know, I don't know. That's all staying in.
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It was the fan. Gonna be fair fucking hot in
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this room. Dude, brother, we, we got this.
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We just gotta get through the episode.
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We're gonna have a good time. Let's go.
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Welcome back to the show, everybody.
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We are host Nick, Noah, Alex and Evan.
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Let's just get right into it. We have a lot to talk about.
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We have a lot of movie to talk about.
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We are reviewing Macon Blair's brand new The Toxic Avenger
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Boys. It's finally time to dive into
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this movie. We took for some context.
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Noah and I went to California, saw the premiere.
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That was cool. Great time.
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The coolest shit I think about this movie for me, though,
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obviously that was amazing. But it was seeing it in a
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theater with 13 of our friends. Yeah, like.
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The the screening out out West was really cool, but I think it
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was it was slightly more fun to be to be able like to where we
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were sitting in the whole row of the movie theater, just look
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either direction. It was all of our friends down
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the line and I could just look over and see Alex Cheese and
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Hard. I think my problem was I knew
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that you knew Noah that the entire time I was like looking
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over going you think they're going to see it?
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You think they're I'll just sit there like nudging every I was.
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It was so funny because there was sit that would happen in the
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movie because I was right next to Evan and right next to Kyle.
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So Kyle I was right next to Ben and I could just see them both
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going what the fuck? Like especially Evan, he'd be
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like, I'm like, did you see it? He goes, I saw it.
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It just. I think I, yeah, I think I
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watched people's reactions more than I watched the movie this
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time. Yeah, dude, it, it's, it was
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awesome, especially for like Evan, who's only really seen,
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you've seen like the Toxic Avenger, kind of.
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Every time I think I've been in the discord, you've at least if
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you've been in the spot in discord, you've seen at least
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bits and pieces of it. I've seen like the same piece
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every single time where I'll join, I'll go, what's this?
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And it's the same like thing of him walking down the street or
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it's that woman in the sauna. And I'm like, OK, I, I've seen
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this before. I'm clicking off of it now and
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then I I move on with my day. So yeah, this is like actually
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the first full toxic adventure that I sat through and watched.
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Dude, and what a time suck at this 13 people.
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He'll watch the original soon enough.
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But now see, the problem is now we have to watch Toxie and then
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we have to watch the new Mr. Melvin film, which is Toxie 2
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and three or three and four combined.
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It was cut together how it was supposed to be originally cut,
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so that also came out. There's a whole lot of toxic,
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but we're here to talk about 2020 Fives or doing a technical
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2020 threes Toxic Avenger. Should we kick it off with the
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movie itself, like I was talking about it or Noah?
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Did you want to talk about how this came to be and how it
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finally came to theaters? Where do you want to where?
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Should I start with it's? We can do that and then we give
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a general overview and then we're going to go straight into
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spoiler stuff. Yeah.
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So yeah, I guess we'll start off with what exactly happened here
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because this, it's sort of there was a buzz around it ever since
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sort of they the last one they made, which I don't remember
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which one that is. There was sort of like, are they
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going to do something with this? Are they not going to do
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something because the Toxic Avengers we'd like we talked
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about in a previous episode, it's sort of like the Mickey
6:05
Mouse for trauma, like it's their big thing.
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So there was always like a buzz, like is trauma going to do this?
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They're going to do something else.
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They were making more projects, like a Shakespeare shitstorm was
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the most recent one before this movie.
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And then there was all the buzz for a remake of The Toxic
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Avenger, and it was up in the air.
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And then it was for real. They filmed it.
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They like started saying like, it's filmed it.
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We did it. We're like going to festivals
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with it. And then it never came out.
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Like if there was just no information about a widespread
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theater release, they had a little bit of trouble finding a
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distributor. Originally they showed it at a
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fantastic fest in September of 2023.
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And then just, I think like midway through last year, I
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don't really remember when, but Syniverse announced that they
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would be distributing the movie. And then it was going to like go
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to all these theaters where they we got popcorn buckets.
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It was going to get the whole the whole theater treatment.
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So we finally got that and then a couple months ago they started
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doing at Comic Con. They started showing screenings.
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The first one was the media one that we went to and then I think
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they just screened it over the whole weekend.
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They did? Yep.
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OK, which is super cool. Like if you were there, you
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could just show up and and watch it and.
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Hopefully. We were there.
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There was like people who were like waiting in line for they
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were at least waiting for like two or three hours.
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They were waiting for our viewing to finish.
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Yeah, Which? Means they waited through our
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whole thing and then another one.
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Yeah. So.
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So like the buzz was there, but like for me.
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Love the monster. They do.
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I mean, they fucking do. It's a great story.
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But like, for me, I remember seeing the buzz around this
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movie releasing a fantastic fest or whatever it was called.
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I think that's what it was called.
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And I just remember seeing like little articles like Peter
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Dinklage's Toxic Venture. I'm like, no, he's not Like,
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what the fuck are you talking about?
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Toxic Avenger? Back then when my brain, I was
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like 2023, I'm like, he's, he's like 6-8, seven feet tall.
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He's a big hulking thing. It's it, it's not Peter
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Dinklage. And then it's like, here's a
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screenshot of like a silhouette. I'm like, oh, OK, that works.
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That's cool. And then it's like Elijah Wood's
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in the movie and I'm like, no, he's not.
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It's like, yes, he is. And then it's Kevin Bacon.
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And I'm like, what are we doing? How is like all of this?
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Because that's what they were like.
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They're drip feeding all this information and drip feeding
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screenshots. I remember when I first saw, I
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was like, oh, this is real. Like we're getting a Toxie
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movie. And then just radio silence for
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two years. And I was like always pissed off
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about that. I was like, this sucks like it
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will never. I was tweeting at them all the
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time, like this sucks. Whoever's not letting this film
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come out, you're fucking Wiley Coyote, Coyote ING the movie.
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That's bullshit. Like release it and it got
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released and people seem to love it, so let's go.
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No, it's all Xenoverse stepping in and being like, we will,
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we'll put this up, we'll like front this for you to get it
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out. And then I have a feeling that
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because so screen box is also like they get like a company
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logo in the movie. So I don't know if they had some
9:38
kind of deal where they were like we're going to release this
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new Toxic Avenger and then it's going to be on your streaming
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platform along with a lot of other Troma movies that they
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just put on there. So Screen Box is also involved
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in this in a way, which is sort of how we got is that I think we
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got involved with Screenbox via the Cineverse promotional stuff
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for the movie. Yes, we that's how we got
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involved. And then we met all the
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wonderful people at Screenbox and Cineverse and it's just
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awesome. You could tell the team behind
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that's like the one of the biggest things we talked about
10:15
on it came from Screenbox. Our our other show is you can
10:18
tell when there is a good time being had in a film and you
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could tell a team that really wants us to succeed.
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Everything we saw from me and Noah, seeing Macon Blair in
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person with the entire cast just elated to show us this movie,
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screamed they had a good time making this film and wanted this
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film to be seen. And it's even more so evident
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when you see this movie that this was just a good time to
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make like everyone on screen is having a blast.
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Again, a huge thing we talked about on the show.
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It's just looked amazing to be a part of.
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And it for it to finally be out is just fucking awesome because
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it could have been one of those things where tax write off, it's
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gone. Sorry, not happening.
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And that didn't. Happen it could have just been
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dumped onto a streaming platform.
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So it's pretty incredible that it we got to be able to see this
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in theaters and it wasn't very limited like they were running
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it at all the big theater chains for like the whole weekend
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least. There's still, there's still.
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It's still in theaters. Still in theaters?
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I'm looking at some showtimes right now.
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Yeah, it's like a movie like this, Like I it's a big deal,
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but I did not expect it to get such an extended run.
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But that really shows like that this is this is something that
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people are still interested in. Well, look at Terra Fire three
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of them. Give them more money for
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possibly the second one. Yeah, yeah.
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Hopefully we get a second one, but but but again, my points to
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this all is like look at Terrifier 3.
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Terrifier 3 is the domino that has to be pushed for Toxie to
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hit theaters because Syniverse put out Terrifier 3 in the in
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the theaters. Terrifier three hits theaters
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does astronomical numbers crazy return on Terrifier 3.
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People love art the clown. You go into fucking target,
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there's art the clown. You go to Walmart art like this
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movie that we watched here in the server with people, and
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people were in our server going, what the fuck is now a
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mainstream media monster? This Art the Clown is this
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generation's Jason Voorhees. Yeah, Michael Myers.
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Yeah, Freddie. Brooke and I were at, we went to
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a Spirit Halloween and they had some pretty good art.
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The clown costumes there, the like, the masks they had were
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like pretty good. I was like, dude, that's sweet
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because I don't think you would have seen that even last year.
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No, no, absolutely not. Well, there's some Halloween
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stores across. Did you see the clown last year?
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I. Don't remember when the movie.
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Came out, they're public, they're holding hard the clown.
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Stuff during Terrifier too. But.
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Yeah, well, this is the first time that I really noticed it
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out in public, but they're like Terrifier and Toxie.
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It's sort of like the the audience is kind of overlap.
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For those movies, yeah. Yeah, Oh yeah, dude.
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Especially when you look at the films themselves and like,
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they're just fun movies, right? Like Terrifier is a bit, you can
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debate if it's fun or not, but it's a good time to watch.
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But yeah, no, because Terrifier, Damian Lyon and that whole team
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and Syniverse like This is why Toxie hit theaters and This is
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why we got to go see it and why everyone else is seeing it now.
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And This is why we're about to talk about the movie itself.
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Unless Noah has some crazier facts about the.
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Movie now this is really the thing of it, but we're going to
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do goes everybody should see this.
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Yeah, I read some shit about it that they took 5 million of the
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budget and paid off people's medical debt.
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Yes, for the marketing budget. That's, you know, that's.
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That's awesome. That's fucking awesome.
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That's awesome. And it's, and it kind of got a
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little bit to do, you know, you could relate that to the story a
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little bit. When we, I, we should have, we
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should have watched back our prediction video that we did to
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see if we were what we said, because I don't honestly
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remember, but I definitely remember saying something about
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it, you know, focusing on the pharmaceutical aspect of things.
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Full spoiler, by the way, that's this is your warning.
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If you haven't seen it, go, go watch it and come back.
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But it was based on like the Pharmaceutical industry and a
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big like point of it was him having to deal with.
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The. Customer facing side of an
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insurance agency. So like it's kind of, I don't
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know, it's kind of like topical that they would use part of the
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movie, use part of the budget for the movie.
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That's a commentary on health insurance to pay people's
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insurance debts and stuff. So.
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They they put out a statement saying we planned on doing like
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flash mobs, Toxie flash mobs and all of these other marketing
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stunts. Like we were like Toxie at like
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a Mets game, right? Or like, you know, like
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incredible. They were going to do shit like
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that and they're like, or we'll just pay people's medical debt
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off and that's what they did. It was it was a couple million.
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It was it was either 2 to. It was between 2:00 and. 5
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million I read 5. That's 5 million is no Trump
15:33
change. That's that's huge.
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Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I mean that just
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goes a lot. Of Americans taken care of right
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there. Yeah, that's also like it says
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something about like the kind of people making this type of
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movie. Because I don't know if I would,
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I don't know if I'd call this necessarily independent because
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Troma has been around forever, but it's definitely like
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smaller, like it's like a. Oh, this is this.
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Is I don't know what like you would call it.
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And for them to like, yeah, they had all that budget and they
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were like, well, we can actually like do something good with this
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other than making an awesome movie, right?
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This is kind of speaks to the caliber of yeah, but I'm curious
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to know Evan's perspective, mostly because he's sort of a
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trauma newbie. This is really.
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So we're going to go this. Is like, if you're a young kid
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now, this is your trauma. This is what you.
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This is what you'll like if your parents were trauma fans.
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Take you to see this. This is your generation's toxic
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Avenger. And yeah, you're not like a kid,
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obviously, But for you, this is like the first.
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Oh, I am yeah, you get. So I want to I want to know your
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perspective coming in from a non trauma perspective.
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You know, I went in with, like I told Nick before we went and saw
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it, I had like, I kept my, my expectations like pretty much
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just like neutral. I didn't expect it to be
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something terrible. Like I wasn't going in like,
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like with like a negative opinion of it already or like a
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super positive when I was like, I'll just see it and, you know,
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go be along for the ride more or less.
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And once everything kicked off and it started going, I was just
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really enjoying it. I thought the humor in the movie
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was probably my favorite aspect of it.
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Like I liked the the fighting and the, the gore and all that
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sort of this, that sort of stuff was really good.
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But it's honestly just the humor and the the a lot of the
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bickering between the actors felt like it was improv.
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Yeah. So like, that's what I liked was
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it sounded like they had done it, like they just turned the
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camera on and we're like, all right, go ahead and do a couple,
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like do a couple rounds of this and we'll see what we get out of
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it. But yeah, I really just like
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Peter Dinklage especially, I thought that was, I thought he
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was actually a great pick, especially once, once I heard
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his voice as Toxic Avenger after the the the change.
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And I was like, oh, I get it, like.
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Yeah, man's has such a good voice.
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It's also just like, I liked that change too, of it being
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like, literally the little guy, but also like I thought that
18:14
theme or like that little metaphor there was nice, but
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just his voice adding on to it was really funny at every time.
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Like whenever he would get really mad and swing, you were
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just like, this is like, yeah, there's a little oomph behind
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that. Yeah, no, I thought that I
18:30
thought that was cool. I thought the story of it itself
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was really good. Like Noah talking about it being
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not just about like health insurance, but like, like snake
18:39
oil, like, like people selling you a bad product and going,
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this will make all of your pain go away.
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You know, your, your, you know, joint pain, your, your aches and
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and whatnot. Like it'll go away if you just
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take this one thing that says cure all.
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It's like. It's very obviously bullshit,
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but like, yeah, I mean, like, that's the the thing about it
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too, right? Is kind of has an environmental
19:02
spin on it as well. Like, you know, this company
19:04
also polluting everything too. So it touches on a lot of
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really, as Noah said, like topical themes, which I also
19:10
liked. I like that it had some pretty
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good commentary on those things while also keeping it light and
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funny and happy. I thought I, I loved it.
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I honestly, I thought it was a really great movie.
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And like I said, I didn't go in expecting it to to be anything
19:27
specific. I was just like, I will see what
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this is 'cause it's like, no, I said the first movie I'm seeing
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from these people I can't really go in with however their past
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movies may have been or whatever I may have heard from you guys
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or from other people, good or bad.
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I can't go in with thinking of those things.
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I just got to go in with my own perspective and leave it alone.
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So yeah, no, I I really loved it.
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One weird part about it though, the guy on my right just kept
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really trying to show me when Toxie was going to show his Dick
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and I didn't like. That it's It's funny because the
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similar thing happened to me when we were all watching Dune
20:01
Part 2 it. Really isn't that interesting.
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Yeah, he wasn't talking about anybody's Dick but he but he was
20:07
very excited. He was very excited about a
20:10
worm. Listen, I get when I get excited
20:13
about something, the. Elbows come out.
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Five years and I it's I am excited about Dicks.
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Well, dude, OK, but let's toxie's Dick was wild.
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That was insane when we when no one.
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I first saw them over at the premiere.
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We were like. That was the only last.
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Moment. It's like a bad dragon.
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It was like a bad. I'm surprised Bad Dragon doesn't
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make one of those. That would be.
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It might now. Oh my God, bad dragon get.
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On I can't, I can't lie. I would buy one I I can't even
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front, I'd buy one I'd put. It on my taxi shelf.
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I put it on my Toby. That's they.
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Should do that. What is that pretty money?
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That scene, that's toxic Dick. That's what it is.
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That scene itself, though, was just funny.
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Well, it's just like one of those moments where it's like,
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OK, yeah, you showed Toxie's cock, but it's the whole, All
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right, now turn around. I got to piss on my face.
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Like it's just not a pervert. Like, I'm not a, I'm not a
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pervert. I got a piss on my face.
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He's very serious. He's like, I am not a pervert,
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OK, but hold. On yeah, it's like just that
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good slapstick fucking in your face humor and it's like, this
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is awesome. For the most part.
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Movie was. Are you going?
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Who's doing it? I just say this movie is just
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filled with slapstick. It's yeah, top to bottom fucking
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3 stooges comedy. Fucking hilarity.
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Yeah. Oh fuck.
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Yeah, but it also upon the rewatch, I was like, well, this
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movie kind of takes itself seriously for a lot of it.
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Like there's jokes and stuff, but it is actually like it's,
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it's a it's a proper narrative movie.
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Like when we rewatched, we saw that, Evan, we, we saw you
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missed the straw just there. But he's out.
22:09
For the listeners haven't just poked himself in the chin trying
22:12
to drink his little drink there, but Doctor Pepper anyway.
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Anyway, the the original Toxic Avenger, I don't know if we said
22:21
it, but we definitely said it while we were watching it.
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It's kind of like a montage of just stuff going on, and there
22:28
was definitely shades of that in this movie, but it was way more
22:31
of like a single narrative. It was on the rail basically.
22:36
That's how it felt. This is on rails.
22:38
It it had a little bit of like A twist and turn where it's like,
22:41
which way are we going? Which way?
22:43
But it always put itself back on track and you're like, oh fuck
22:47
yeah. I liked all that.
22:48
Like that. I see why we did that.
22:50
Like it all made sense as to why it was kind of looping you and
22:54
pulling you and it made sense. And yeah, this is a bit more of
22:58
a cohesive Toxic Avenger. And that's why I think with
23:01
today's audiences, it's going to hit like in the way they're
23:05
marketing it honestly, like this is the hero you need like talks.
23:10
She's going to mop up crime and, you know, love the monster
23:14
bringing that old ad back. It's it's I think it's it's good
23:18
for people seeing it today. Now I am curious.
23:25
We've asked Evan, no. And I are going last, Alex.
23:28
We have to go last. We cannot go first or second or
23:32
third. Alex.
23:33
Why not? Because we can't.
23:34
That's. What you're going to say?
23:38
Alex. I will say this is probably one
23:40
of the best films of the year and like not being biased like
23:43
it is, it's great. It honestly is.
23:47
I mean, movies are kind of in AI.
23:50
Shouldn't say the movies are in a rough state, but like the
23:53
mainstream movies are in a rough state.
23:54
Unless you're like only watching horror movies, there's not much
23:58
good going on. Even even with horror movies.
24:03
Weapons together him. Well, yeah, horrors, I think.
24:09
Been OK we're not talking. We're not talking about that.
24:13
This film is good from beginning to end.
24:16
The slapstick I'm going to talk about 1 scene that actually had
24:19
me like cracking up laughing as when Toxie's sneaking into.
24:24
I can't remember Kevin Bacon's character's name.
24:28
He's. Just sneaking into the the comp.
24:32
Is his real name is. You can call him by his nickname
24:36
that he doesn't like. Oh yeah, they call him.
24:40
Bozo, bozo, bozo, bozo. His real name I think is Robert.
24:46
I think his real name is is Robert but they call him.
24:48
Bozo, I think so too, yeah. But when they're sneaking into
24:53
the compound, you're like. What's your name?
24:56
Get in compound. And I don't remember dude.
25:00
Chut Haven. I smoke.
25:02
Is it Chut haven? Yeah, it's Chut Haven.
25:05
It is Chut Haven. I keep talking about that part
25:09
though, because this, it's incredible.
25:11
You know what I'm talking about. Yeah.
25:13
The, the, the, the, the girl, she's like, I got this.
25:16
She like unbuttons her blouse and like gets the girls all like
25:19
fucking ready and she's like hey boys and they just turn and look
25:22
and they both shoot each other right in the fucking head.
25:25
They like, drop their guns and they go.
25:28
Just just like both stink right in the fucking head.
25:31
So fucking funny. Like that shit actually had me
25:33
laughing out loud. That part was so fucking funny
25:37
because I I must have like blinked or something when we saw
25:40
it the first time because I did not remember.
25:42
That I didn't remember it. That was, that's comedy fucking
25:47
gold. And then he was like talks.
25:48
He was like, that was easy. It is so good.
25:54
So good. Well, she was surprised too.
25:56
She's like, I didn't think that would happen it.
26:00
Happens twice. It happens again later on in the
26:02
same fucking scene. Yeah, yeah.
26:08
Kevin Bacon did great job, did a great job.
26:11
He's he's a horror icon. Friday the 13th Scrummers.
26:16
He's our boy. We love Kevin Bacon, Elijah Wood
26:21
probably wouldn't have this movie if it wasn't for Elijah
26:23
Wood from what I recall. He's a big proponent.
26:26
Yeah, he's a big part of it. And, and Dinklage killed it.
26:31
Yeah, dude, yeah. And and whoever this kid who
26:34
played the son he killed. Jacob Tremblay.
26:36
Jacob Tremblay, he he killed it. And you can't forget Luisa
26:45
Guerrera Guerrero. I don't know how to say it.
26:49
I butchered that, but she's the stunt performer who is in the
26:53
suit the whole time. She's a toxic.
26:56
Which I can't imagine that was probably, honestly, hell.
27:00
Yes, that's why Peter couldn't do it.
27:02
Peter basically knew that he wasn't going to be able to do it
27:06
from what I recall listening to. And they were like, well Louisa
27:10
can. And then basically she just like
27:13
studied his mannerisms, how he and her would like practice
27:17
together. And that's how they got that
27:20
working. And she did a phenomenal job in
27:23
that fucking suit. We used to talk about the that
27:26
effect for a for a bit. The Toxie Avenger himself.
27:31
Yeah. So as far as I can tell, it's a
27:34
suit. A lot of the effects, like a lot
27:37
of the the fluids and stuff is all practical.
27:42
There's definitely CGI going on with the suit, like I think I
27:46
maybe the glowing, I don't know if that's really not the eye.
27:50
Yeah, but it it's very like it looks very practical, but it's
27:55
like not it's it's like it's good enough that it doesn't look
28:01
like an obvious practical effect like I was.
28:03
I was not quite sure sometimes if that was if it was practical
28:07
or not, which is like, in my opinion, is a really good
28:11
indicator that they're like blending the effects really well
28:14
together when you don't always know.
28:16
And sometimes you definitely know, like when there's any
28:18
dismemberments and it's like a gore spray.
28:21
Yeah, yeah. You know, all that stuff is
28:25
like, yeah, it's big, big time effects.
28:27
But then other times there's a lot of practical stuff.
28:30
Beat a motherfucker with their own arm.
28:33
Yeah, yeah, so good. There was butt guts in this
28:36
movie. What are you talking about, bro?
28:38
Yeah, that was crazy. Fuck it, that was a quick what
28:41
did you have for lunch? Toxic.
28:45
Toxic. Chef.
28:46
But that's so funny. I thought the suit was great
28:50
from the moment it was like shown actually, right?
28:53
So it's the minute you get to see Toxie.
28:55
The transformation scene is awesome.
28:57
What a great homage to the original.
29:00
The transformation was sweet. The way Toxie becomes Toxie is
29:03
cool. I thought it's it's cool.
29:09
It's the window scene for me that's really sold it like, hey
29:12
buddy, I'm your dad. What the fuck throws an ashtray
29:15
toxic. He just falls straight back into
29:17
a car and the guy who was terrorizing his neighbor earlier
29:22
with the cat, basically, you know, he lands on his car, just
29:26
shoots Toxie in the arm, and that's the first time you get to
29:28
see a. It's the the woman with the cat
29:31
who you will know from Ted Lasso as the as may the the public.
29:36
Two Ted Lasso actresses in. This movie 2 Ted Lasso, folks.
29:40
Who haven't watched it? Oh, it's so good, but Toxie gets
29:45
shot in the arm and the bullet hits and pierces, sticks,
29:49
bubbles and pushes out and that's when it starts to bleed.
29:53
And but it's like pulsating and it's moving and it's pushing
29:56
fluids and you're like, oh, shit, like this is wild.
30:00
Like this looks great. And like Toxies like cheeks are
30:03
like in the face are like actually like being like moved.
30:06
And there's emotion. That's the biggest thing with
30:09
the mask itself and the the prosthetic there is.
30:12
You could see emotion. Yeah.
30:15
Like it was, it was done so well.
30:17
And the homage obviously, to the pink Tutu, like immediately, you
30:21
know, Peter Dinklage walking down the street in the pig pig
30:23
Tutu and you're like, oh, they're going to do the thing.
30:26
Like, that's as soon as I saw him walking in the Tutu, I'm
30:28
like, that's when he becomes toxic.
30:30
Like, OK, so this is about to be where we're going to get the
30:33
hero. It was, it was awesome.
30:37
I love that practical effect. Now, I was a little bummed with
30:40
some of the CGI choices in this film.
30:43
There were some points in the film where I was like, really
30:46
like you guys are. I didn't.
30:49
I don't think you needed to do it like that, right?
30:51
But I don't know anything about filmmaking what you know but.
30:55
I feel like have a specific example.
30:57
It's the broom throw, so that the broom throw was definitely
31:01
one of those ones where I was like that could have been done
31:03
in a funny, you know, cast head, throat the head.
31:07
You know, the broom flies smash the head open type shit.
31:12
But it's you know, the eyeball pot.
31:14
I understand you were trying to they, they had to get the shot.
31:17
That was a commercial shot, too. It was a trailer shot, right?
31:20
The broom flies through the head or the mop?
31:22
Not the broom. The mop flies through the head.
31:25
The eyeball is at the camera. At that point in time.
31:28
You're like, that's cool. Yeah, it's a great shot.
31:31
The problem is with that budget, it's real.
31:35
The blood in that instance is like really red.
31:39
And I was like, damn, dude. That would have been, that would
31:41
have looked really cool had it been practical.
31:44
And it was still fun because that entire scene when he's
31:47
singing Motörhead was just awesome.
31:50
You were saying it's like reference to an original.
31:54
Toxic Avenger 4. Lemmy's in.
31:56
Yeah, Lemmy's in one of the toxic Avengers. 4/4 the citizen.
31:59
Is it citizen toxic? Citizen toxic What are we
32:02
laughing about? Why are we laughing?
32:04
I was just, I, I was in my head thinking myself like Nick's,
32:08
like I just want to throw a mop through a guy's head and record
32:11
it. Just I want to, I want to throw
32:13
that mop through a guy's head for real.
32:16
Let me, let me do this toxic, let me.
32:17
Listen, if Christopher Nolan is going to set off a real nuclear
32:20
bomb, I think we could throw a broom through a guy's head.
32:22
I don't. I don't know.
32:24
I think we can. Make it work I mean but.
32:29
I will say one thing real quick, I I seen a spoiler scrolling
32:33
fucking Instagram and it showed that scene of Toxie walking up
32:38
to the stage singing Motörhead and I'm like man, I wish I
32:41
didn't see that. That would have been so fucking
32:43
cool. Just to like, as soon as I was
32:45
like, oh I see this coming now, God damn it.
32:47
It there's a lot of those sneaky little homages in this film.
32:51
There's a lot of like pointing back.
32:53
I'm surprised. I'm almost surprised we didn't
32:55
get like a Sergeant Kabuki man like cameo or because you you do
32:59
get a Newcomb High cameo. Yeah, well there is a so I have.
33:04
I I got my list of references. We want to go down the list.
33:07
We should. We should.
33:09
I know this is not all the references don't at me, but if
33:12
you are going to add me, use the e-mail.
33:15
Wasdbeyond@gmail.com Yeah, I. Used the e-mail.
33:19
Yeah, I used the e-mail. Inbox is pretty empty right now.
33:23
Yeah, got on in there. But OK.
33:26
So this is in no particular order, but at the very
33:29
beginning, the doctor character who JJ is working for, his name
33:35
is Melvin. Melvin.
33:36
Obviously reference to original Toxie.
33:41
Kevin Bacon's character is called Bozo by like people who
33:46
have known him for a long time and and they use it to like
33:48
insult him. It's clearly like an
33:50
embarrassing nickname. Here's a fun one that I figured
33:53
out while I was looking at the cast.
33:55
Sorry, it just clicked in my head.
33:57
Why, Yeah. Go ahead.
33:58
Well, that leads into. This one.
34:00
Yeah, OK. Well, OK, so this is probably a
34:04
coincidence, but the actor who plays his name is Bob Garbinger.
34:09
That's Kevin Bacon's character is a female assistant who's
34:13
like, clearly obsessed with them.
34:14
The actress, her name is Julia. So we got, you know, a bit of
34:20
roundabout. We got Bozo and Julie back
34:23
together again, which I don't know if that's a coincidence,
34:27
but that's crazy if it if it is. If they worked that into the
34:31
film somehow, that'd be insane. Yeah, that was, I found that out
34:36
when I was like in the IMDb and I was like, no fucking way.
34:39
I don't know if any. Yeah, Yeah, I got some more.
34:43
The town is called St. Romasville, which is the
34:47
Emilyville reference to Tromaville because the the S is
34:50
always missing or broken or something.
34:53
You mentioned it. There's a Nukem High reference
34:56
when the sports newscasters, when he's talking about the
35:01
Saint Romasville High School team is going to.
35:04
He's just like they're going to Nukem at the game.
35:06
Yeah, that's the Nukemi reference.
35:09
And then right at the end, it's probably more, but right at the
35:13
end, the homeless doctor characters wearing a Trombaville
35:16
Health Club T-shirt. Yes.
35:19
Right at the end. He's not a doctor, though.
35:21
He's not a doctor. He said he's a doctor.
35:25
Yeah, like when I say that, when I say that.
35:28
Does Jake say? That when when we were in
35:32
California and I heard them, we say, yeah, he's just over there
35:35
huffing jankum. I started to fucking cry.
35:39
Because like, if you don't know what Jankum is, it's fermented
35:42
shit. Your shit in a carboy and you
35:48
put a balloon on it and you put it in the sun.
35:51
You let the you let you let all the fucking the shit gas go into
35:59
the balloon. You huff the gas.
36:00
Methane. It's, you know, the stuff that
36:02
burns a hole in the atmosphere. So you, you huff, you huff
36:07
methane from your. Yeah, you huff the methane
36:09
fumes. And then you get high.
36:12
It's called jenkum. And that's what he was doing.
36:15
That's Toxie's best friend. I kind of thought he was going
36:18
to be more of a presence for the back half of the movie.
36:22
Like, I thought he was going to, like, be like a sidekick
36:24
character. Yeah.
36:26
You know, why are you dying here, Evan?
36:29
I could have gone for my rest of my life without knowing that.
36:32
You. Didn't know that was a real
36:34
drug. I didn't know anything about any
36:37
of those words until you put them all into that order and
36:39
said them. Wait till you learn about
36:41
cheesing. Oh dude, you don't.
36:42
Want to do cheesing? Please don't go cheesing to me,
36:46
I beg of you. Oh.
36:47
My God. You don't cheese, you'll never
36:49
know about the major boobage. The major boobage, bro South
36:55
Park deep cuts No man, I this movie is awesome from top to
37:00
bottom. There's so much here that I
37:02
think my biggest thing is I think you could take anybody to
37:07
see this film and they will have a good time seeing it because
37:11
it's a it's a film about the environment.
37:13
It's a film about healthcare and insurance.
37:15
The whole I have the platinum tier scene that.
37:19
Was so funny that. That if you've ever.
37:22
Called insurance. Seen as dying.
37:24
Dude, you have platinum. Fucking work.
37:28
You have, you were. Like trying to warranty we were
37:30
trying to warranty out of like ARC car part at work and this
37:34
company called Horizon hobby fucking total trash.
37:37
Fuck them. I highly doubt it.
37:40
Lick, fuck, lick my fucking lick my Grundy Oh.
37:44
Yeah, I take that. Verizon like we're we're we're
37:47
trying to fucking return a part and from what I've been told,
37:51
we've been dealing their parts for like 20 years.
37:54
There are stores and you're like, well, what tier are you?
37:57
What what the? IT was literally the scene but
38:02
with. Fucking I'm a platinum tier.
38:05
Yeah, but you don't have the gold tier perks.
38:08
Platinum's better than Platinum. It's so incredible.
38:13
It's so. Sad.
38:15
Yeah, no, it's so sad because. You know, that's like a real
38:18
thing, yeah. Yeah, but she she goes and then,
38:20
but it's not the gold tier. You need the gold tier.
38:25
He's like, I don't know what a tier is.
38:28
And this, yeah, isn't that the gold?
38:34
I I like that they were clearly like taking a stance on that
38:37
kind of thing. And then just to know that other
38:38
fact that Alex said where they used like some of the budget to
38:42
pay off people's health, you know, debts and stuff, It's
38:46
just, it's. So fucking cool.
38:48
Yeah, yeah. That's awesome.
38:50
I mean, if you think about it, people like us, were there
38:54
advertising budget? Yeah.
38:57
That's why, you know, like we, you know, a lot of us and other
39:00
creators really championed this film, and for good reason.
39:05
It was. It's such a good time.
39:07
And again, Evan's real first. What?
39:10
Fuck your shit. I was gonna say what tier of
39:13
what tier of supporter are you? Tier, we're pretty high.
39:16
California. We flew. 3000 miles.
39:20
That's got to be the gold tier. I I got a toxic avenger tattoo.
39:24
For the Yeah. And he is.
39:25
Alex and Nick are marked for life with the Toxic Avenger.
39:29
That's it. Doesn't get much higher than
39:31
that. Yeah, dudes.
39:34
So you guys, you guys are what yours you need.
39:37
You guys are diamonds in there. You need to have platinum.
39:40
You need platinum to your perks that you do not have with
39:43
diamonds. So I've had a.
39:44
Platinum better than diamond? No, it's not.
39:48
That was. But yeah, that was a relatable
39:50
scene. But for me as well though, I
39:53
picked up on a lot of the father story of this film too.
39:56
Yeah, that was good too. Yeah, it's about him.
39:59
That's when it's home. It's navigating being a dad
40:03
because his, you know, his wife is dead.
40:05
He's taking care of her son. He's the stepfather, but he's
40:08
not like the evil stepfather. He's trying to be like, I am
40:11
not, I'm your dad, but I'm not going to.
40:14
It was a whole, it was awesome how they approached all that,
40:18
right? Like it was just a it was just
40:20
really fun. And it was cool to see how that
40:24
interaction really plays out between, you know, Toxie and his
40:28
son And I, I loved every minute of that.
40:31
I thought that all those big home hitting factors,
40:34
environmentalism, rally against the insurance companies in the
40:39
medical field for the bullshit that they push on us being the
40:43
father, like doing what's right. Like that's a major thing in
40:47
this movie. The movie is majorly about just
40:50
do the right thing behind all of its gore and it's, you know,
40:54
gross outs, which I do. Before we close out and give our
40:58
final thoughts here, I do want to touch on the gore in a
41:00
minute. So, Alex, yes.
41:03
It's just funny because at the end, like towards the end of the
41:06
flick, it's he, he's like, he finally like this kid calls him
41:10
dad and like, you could see it in Toxie's face.
41:13
He's like, oh, and he's like, you're not.
41:16
He's like, he's like, you haven't just been killing, have
41:20
you? And he's like.
41:23
He's like no A. Little bit like maybe once or
41:27
twice. It's all the times like it
41:29
doesn't matter. You already called me dad.
41:31
You can't take it back. Yourself, is it self-defense?
41:34
So what do you what do you mean? Well, define self-defense.
41:37
You know, just yeah, that's a good scene.
41:39
It's a fucking awesome scene that really pushes Toxie because
41:42
that's a major push for him as well in the movie.
41:44
It's now I got to go get my son. Yeah.
41:48
We should mention the cameo. We get a little cameo.
41:52
From Uncle. Lloyd and Macon Blair together.
41:56
Macon Blair together Macon Blair gets his ass beat by the killer
41:59
nuts really quick. Elijah Wood was a perfect baddie
42:03
in this film. Like just like the henchman
42:06
stooge character. All in the nuts, All in the
42:11
nuts, or send in the nuts. You're fucking rock'n'roll band
42:15
monster core. What?
42:17
It's monster Core. It's it's what?
42:22
I love dude. I love those guys.
42:26
I was just thinking of Hollywood Undead the entire fucking time
42:29
and I cannot get out of my head and it was like, oh.
42:33
Well, the constant the constant parkour.
42:36
No parkour. Yeah, I was.
42:38
I was just going to mention him. Did love the guys.
42:39
Like, is it, is it parkour time? Like now he's like, he's like,
42:44
he's like getting out of the van.
42:45
He'll do a flip and he's like, that was sick.
42:47
I nailed that and then the like the chicken head guy, the
42:52
chicken headed guy. Do you want to go into that?
42:54
Because so. I knew he has like a shrunken
42:58
head. There's.
43:00
Presumably from the medicines. This.
43:03
So that character itself reminded me of Hotline Miami.
43:06
I was like, oh, that's cool. It's like a play on Hotline
43:08
Miami right there. But then Toxie kills all of the
43:11
killer nuts. There's one left that is the big
43:15
chicken guy, the biggest dude of them all, chasing down basically
43:21
Monty Python's him pulls the mask off and it's like this
43:25
sickening. It's like a small baby head.
43:29
It's an infant's head on this man's body.
43:33
He's like, he's just, yeah, yeah.
43:36
He's just like, where are, where are they?
43:38
Like, where's my son? He's dad.
43:40
He's just. All he says is Chad Haven.
43:42
I like how they don't kill him like Toxie doesn't kill him.
43:45
He's like, I'm not sure if this whole baby.
43:49
What? What do I do?
43:50
Why it ran the way it ran too instead of saying I'm just?
43:54
Stupid and goofy. Oh my God, the the the girl.
43:59
Could hardly keep the vomit down.
44:01
She's sitting there swallowing her vomit because she's so sick
44:04
and. His theater.
44:06
Erupted. Yeah, and everybody was laughing
44:09
at that one. That was another big laugh that
44:11
we got in the theater, yeah. Something that I, I, I cracked
44:16
up at and I don't know why I still am trying to figure it
44:18
out. But when Kevin Bacon's character
44:20
at the very beginning stuck to Elijah Wood's character and he
44:22
goes, do you know how much is at stake here?
44:25
And then he just screams everything.
44:27
You know, it's like, I wonder if the people behind the camera
44:29
were like, just deliver it normal.
44:31
And then he just did that and they were all just like Jesus
44:34
Christ it. Was.
44:35
It was. Just going to say to his
44:37
everything it was so. Cool the TV.
44:41
Oh God you love how he throws this his he throws coffee at the
44:45
TV and it breaks every time and the guy immediately a Butler
44:49
immediately comes in starts wiping it down.
44:52
Like that's going to fix it. And he's got he's got a basement
44:56
full of lab nerds. Yeah, just doing the basement of
45:00
the lab nerds. That was great.
45:02
Fuck it. So good dude.
45:04
Well, to get Kevin Bacon too. He was born for this role
45:07
because he was just so mean and nasty.
45:10
He's so funny. Like the banquet scene where
45:12
he's like, what do you do for us?
45:13
He goes mop shop. What?
45:15
What? And he's like, oh, what?
45:17
Yeah, You can tell, like we, like you said earlier, we always
45:24
go on and on about like it being clear when people are having a
45:27
good time on set. This is sort of like the
45:30
ultimate culmination of that because the like a lot of these
45:33
big actors, like they didn't have to do this.
45:35
You know, they could have been doing something else, but they
45:39
did this for the love of it. Dude, they're horror nerds just
45:44
like us. Well, yeah, a lot of a lot of
45:47
Hollywood points at trauma. We would not have the new
45:51
Superman without trauma. That is a fact.
45:54
James Gunn comes from trauma. Lloyd Kaufman was in the new
45:58
Super. Uncle Lloyd is in.
46:00
Uncle Lloyd makes an appearance, which that's got to be so cool
46:03
for him to like, see like somebody who he worked with when
46:07
they were just starting out. Yeah, who you sort of mentored
46:10
them. And now they're making like
46:12
mainline DC movies, like they're running the the mainline DC.
46:17
Universe when you got to think Uncle Lloyd probably thinks of
46:20
it in the old, not in the way of necessarily it's ADC thing, but
46:23
it's your name is enshrined as one of the people who directed
46:26
Superman. Like, yeah, you know, there's
46:29
not that many people who have done that.
46:31
And it's all the more important when you do it and it's good and
46:34
it's received well and people like it.
46:36
And obviously James Gunn nailed it.
46:37
And I thought it was really cool because I didn't notice Uncle
46:41
Lloyd the first time or second time I watched it because I
46:43
didn't know what he looked like. And then I saw James Gunn say
46:46
like, happy birthday, you know, Lloyd Kaufman or whatever.
46:49
And then he was like, he's in the new Superman.
46:50
I went back, watched the movie again just to see him in that
46:54
little like half second, like blinking.
46:55
You'll miss it. Could you imagine, and this is
47:00
like, I'm putting my tinfoil hat on for this one, could you
47:03
imagine the next Superman movie? It's just a lineup of heroes and
47:07
it's whoever in Green Lantern, whatever, and Batman's there and
47:11
it pans to the side. It's the Toxic Avenger.
47:15
You just see the mock. I don't know how, I don't know
47:17
where I am. I don't know what this is.
47:20
Oh, that would, but that would be so good if you could do that.
47:23
I. Do think he could just be there?
47:26
That could be that be simple because.
47:29
James Gunn, if you're listening. You.
47:31
Should he said you should do that.
47:33
He said Man of Tomorrow is going to have Lex and Superman working
47:39
sort of together to stop a bigger threat, so maybe.
47:42
The bigger threats could be the Toxic Avenger.
47:45
Toxie's a good guy. Yeah, maybe he turns bad.
47:49
Yeah, well, you know, so they're like Batman and Superman are
47:52
supposed to be good guys, but they fight sometimes.
47:55
They're getting. Spats.
47:56
They're little spats. I wanted to touch on the gore
48:01
because of a big proponent of why this movie couldn't be
48:05
released was because of the gore.
48:08
And which? I think it has a lot to do with
48:11
maybe 2 scenes, Toxie's monster Dick and I think it has to do
48:19
with the butt guts. All I mean, all I would say, all
48:24
I would say is that if a movie like like Jigsaw can come out
48:28
and movies like like Terrifier can come out, then this movie
48:33
didn't have anything worse than that.
48:35
No, I mean those movies. Terrifier had way worse.
48:38
Well, and it's also like, it's like I I thought it was very
48:41
like it's obviously fake. Like yeah, like just like that
48:46
that the the scene when he throws not like he throws the
48:49
the mop or no, he hits the the one guy in the diner and takes.
48:53
On the jaw and everything. Yeah, and that's that's so
48:56
obviously just like, come on, like what are we talking about?
49:00
They like you guys. That guy looked Jigsaw.
49:03
He did look a little familiar. It was the beret he looked like.
49:09
Yeah. Like, but yeah, if, yeah, if you
49:12
have like Jigsaw, like yet Terra Fire or any number of movies
49:16
that have come out and like, not even necessarily gore, but just
49:19
unsettling scenes, you know, this movie is not very
49:22
unsettling. It's not really even like gory
49:26
in the way that I would think. I like, I would want to shield
49:29
people from because it's like, it's obviously not real.
49:32
That's that's totally fake. It's meant to be like, funny,
49:35
like, yeah, yeah, these guys are, yeah, these guys are jerks
49:40
and like this, this, you know, guys beating them up with a, a
49:44
toxic mop. And it's like, you know, it's
49:47
not really meant to be something that you're, yeah, concerned
49:49
about, I guess. But I think the gore was fine.
49:52
I was only disappointed that there was a, a so, so little of
49:56
it. Like, I thought it was going to
49:57
be much more gory. And it ended up not being that
50:00
way. And I was like, huh, strange.
50:03
You are. You brought up the restaurant
50:06
fight, which itself is a big reference to the original.
50:11
And in that it is a, no pun intended, but a blink and you'll
50:14
miss a thing. There's the the woman who turns
50:17
out to be the She's like the FBI person.
50:20
Yeah, she's the FBI. She's and she's there in the
50:23
restaurant. She's blind, which is a
50:25
reference to Sarah from the original 1.
50:28
That's Toxie's girlfriend and becomes his wife.
50:31
Oh, OK. Yep.
50:33
Interesting. That's also in her in her being
50:36
her being FBI also makes sense to why she wasn't like but.
50:41
She didn't freak. Out at all?
50:42
Yeah. By these thugs.
50:45
Well, one of the thugs almost get out of gets out of his
50:48
mouth. I've never cornholed me a blind
50:50
bitch like that, which is almost comes out and then it's just
50:54
boom, Toxie comes in. I was like.
50:56
Rips his jaw off. That was sick as fuck.
51:00
Like there's a lot of that. The gore was fun the whole movie
51:04
but I wanted more but the whole movie it was as a fun
51:08
cartoonish. It's a it's a superhero comedy
51:13
for adults. The Boys has way crazier, more
51:17
unsettling shit than what this. Oh, absolutely, by far.
51:20
In a way. But like, this was just a fun
51:22
fucking time at the theaters. Yeah, dude, fucking more, Toxie.
51:29
All right, boys, who wants. Does anyone else have anything
51:31
else to say before we put a bow on this?
51:33
Give our final thoughts on the movie.
51:36
Noah and I, if we if we, if we want to start and then or if
51:40
Alex and Evan want to start. If you wrap it up.
51:44
If you do. Go to the theaters while it's
51:46
still out and watch this. There's after credit scene stay.
51:50
Yeah, we talked about you got to watch Toxie make a grilled
51:52
cheese. How he teaches you how to make
51:54
grilled cheese. I.
51:57
Really use when I make grilled cheese.
52:00
I do not you. Didn't tell anybody.
52:01
So I'm not an animal, but Brooke also likes mayonnaise on the.
52:06
Groceries, there's no, you can't taste it.
52:08
It's no different, I said. I'll, I'll know, I'll know that
52:12
it's. No, no, You'll know that it's
52:13
there. Yeah.
52:14
No, no. I.
52:15
Know I did during that scene like right when the credits were
52:18
ending I was looking at everyone going everyone sit back down and
52:21
like to the other theater goes there just like I was like.
52:25
I'm telling you behind one. Yeah, because I was like, stay
52:29
where you're at, don't get off. Don't.
52:32
They listened. Nick did.
52:33
His other people were. Nick did his for the audio
52:37
listeners. You won't see it.
52:38
I'm going to violently jerk my elbow.
52:40
He went make sure to stay for the after credits and I was like
52:43
OK dude I get it I. Get it?
52:45
I get it. Holy Chest.
52:47
So they're holding my chest, holding my chest like Jesus,
52:49
like I wasn't even planning on moving.
52:54
Who wants to start off with their final thoughts of this
52:56
film? I'll go hit it.
53:03
Very good. Good to see you.
53:06
I'm gonna punch you. No, no, I liked it.
53:09
Like I said, if you like slapstick, like comedy and tales
53:16
of like an Underdog, I think this is like the the perfect
53:19
movie for something like that, like a 2025 movie that does both
53:22
those things quite well. Skip gets the humor right, gets
53:26
the, the shock, those things right 'cause it's not shocking
53:30
in a way that is terrifying or horror or violent in a way that
53:33
makes you go like feel unsafe. It is stuff that makes you just
53:37
feel like that's no, there's no way they just did that on
53:40
screen. And then it just like keeps and
53:42
then it just keeps moving and you just keep enjoying it.
53:46
Stay for, you know, come for the laughs and, and like the good
53:49
story, but stay for the, you know, the actors who are, yeah,
53:52
selling it and, you know, really giving it their all and love
53:55
making it. And, and like, you can tell
53:56
they're having a good time. You can tell that they're giving
54:00
it their all. Like I said, I felt like there
54:02
were just some scenes where they just put the camera on, put them
54:05
in position and said, go ahead, just run this through a couple
54:08
times and just let's see what we can get.
54:10
And, you know, 'cause it's like these are all people who are
54:12
very experienced and, you know, know what they're doing.
54:15
And obviously, at the end of the day, I think when you have that
54:18
combined with doing this movie, for the love of it, you have a
54:21
lot of people who intrinsically understand the vibe you're
54:24
trying to capture. So yeah, like, I mean, like I
54:29
said, I give it like a like a nine out of 10 like.
54:33
Holy. Shit, let's go.
54:35
I don't. I think the lowest score I've
54:37
ever given anything on any of the shows is like a 7 1/2 or a
54:41
six if I really didn't like it, but for.
54:43
You to give Toxie A9 is big. That's sweet.
54:46
I mean, I don't know. It doesn't, Yeah, like it does.
54:48
It's not hard to to entertain me.
54:50
But like, it was good. It it had heart and that's kind
54:52
of what what matters. All right, fuck yeah.
54:57
You know it's. It wasn't made by an algorithm,
54:59
I'll tell you that much. No.
55:01
You know, you notice how he went out of 10 instead of 5.
55:05
That's fine. Oh cuz that's what I'm used to
55:07
from the the gaming side of stuff.
55:09
Cuz we do. Well, technically we're on WASD
55:11
right now. So we'll, we'll go to 10 here
55:13
today. We'll go to 10.
55:15
I had a problem with. I had a problem with.
55:17
I had a problem with doing 10s when we were doing fives.
55:20
Sorry. Just fine, fine.
55:22
I was like, oh, all right, who is next?
55:27
I'll give it like a four out of five if that makes it easier to
55:29
gaze. There you go.
55:30
So 9 out of. 10 or a four out of.
55:34
I'll go. Alex.
55:38
I'll give it a 10 out of 10, maybe a little.
55:40
It might be a little bias in there.
55:41
I I can't lie, it's toxic Avenger, love toxic.
55:45
It's a great film. It's probably one of the best
55:47
films of the year for sure. We'll be buying this physically
55:53
when it is released. All hands down.
55:55
This is going on my shelf. We'll be watching it.
55:59
Go see it. Can't recommend it enough.
56:02
It's. Great from beginning then fuck.
56:06
Yeah, dude, no. Yeah, I also get, I would say 9
56:11
out of 10. I loved it.
56:13
It was, it was all that we kind of hoped for and maybe a little
56:19
bit more. There was a a clear love of the
56:23
craft on screen. You could tell by just the names
56:28
of the actors who are in this. You could tell but that it was a
56:31
love letter to the original. A lot of people have said that
56:35
this is Lloyd Kaufman sort of passing the torch, passing the
56:38
mop to make him Blair. And I think the the Trauma
56:45
cinematic universe is in good hands with him.
56:48
If this was his first sort of day out in the public with this,
56:56
then, you know, I can only hope for what comes next.
57:00
Sergeant Boogeyman, please, Macon, if you're there.
57:04
Mr. Blair, Sir, if you don't mind.
57:08
It's culturally insensitive, probably, but I'm sure you can
57:11
figure it out. I just.
57:14
Yeah. For For what?
57:15
This for the implications of the movie and like what this is
57:19
going to mean going forward for, like, smaller movie studios.
57:22
It's just there's so much to love here.
57:26
Yeah, no. The Toxic Avenger, man, 2025's
57:30
Toxic Avenger from Macon, Blair, Xenoverse, Trauma, Bloody
57:34
disgusting. Everybody involved.
57:36
This is a smash hit. This is a easy 10 out of 10 for
57:40
me, even despite some of the things I had a little bit of a
57:42
gripe with, right? This is the hit.
57:44
Everything I wanted it to hit and the people behind it make
57:47
this a perfect film because of what they stand for, because of
57:52
what they made, because of what they've given the audience.
57:57
This movie has it all. It's it's again, it's a it's a
58:00
father son flick. It's a flick against corporate
58:03
greed and destroying the environment and insurance
58:07
companies, ruining people's lives.
58:09
It's an action flick. It's a superhero flick.
58:12
It's a monster flick. It's it's all these things and
58:15
one big amalgamation that is the Toxic Avenger.
58:20
And it's important to see this generation's Toxie, this
58:25
generation's trauma really breathing new life into cinema.
58:30
It it's important that films like these also hit the the
58:33
theaters. You can go see a Mission
58:36
Impossible. You can go see a Top Gun or a
58:39
marvel film or Oppenheimer and that those are all must sees in
58:44
theaters, right. But like, to see something like
58:46
this in theaters is is wild. I'm saying because those are
58:50
critically acclaimed. Evan I.
58:51
Was going to say, what are you? Talking to those Tom Cruise
58:53
flicks, you know. 222 Tom Cruise.
58:56
Flicks 2 Tom Cruise movies? Dude that was so strange.
58:58
But those movies like, you know they're going to be in theaters.
59:01
You don't have to wonder like you know it's going to go to the
59:04
theaters. And I can just get.
59:05
It something like this is. This is funny.
59:07
Yeah. It's it's special when something
59:09
like this hits theaters and audience go, oh, I love this.
59:14
This was fun because everybody who's seen it has gone.
59:17
I loved this. This was fun.
59:18
I I can't believe I just saw that in theaters.
59:21
It's important. It's like like we're going to do
59:25
a little full circle back to like that street trash thing.
59:27
I like. I tried getting a hold of some
59:31
theaters to get St. trash in there and I got shit for
59:35
response. So I was like, all right, dude,
59:38
that that kind of sucks. But.
59:40
Yeah, just like this needs to come into theaters.
59:43
It really does. I think if this had like a lot
59:47
of if this got a lot of people into the theater, that's like a
59:51
really good sign. I think people are people are
59:54
hungry for these more independent, you know, movies
59:58
made by smaller studios if nothing else in a 24 is huge
1:00:04
now. But they weren't always well.
1:00:06
You got neon. Well, you got neon, you know.
1:00:08
Yeah, Neon a 24. You know, now Syniverse is
1:00:12
really busted into those theaters.
1:00:14
Well, like those legendary. Yeah.
1:00:19
Yeah. Like they're, they're correctly
1:00:23
identifying that people have not gotten like Dumber in the sense
1:00:27
that you can't make a good story anymore.
1:00:29
That is complex and like has themes that are a bit deeper
1:00:32
than just surface level. I think because there was a big,
1:00:35
you know, superhero movie slash like franchise craze, people
1:00:40
forgot that you could make a story that was just like that.
1:00:44
That that's the thing that comes up often, right, where it's like
1:00:46
some people will see a movie like marriage story and they'll
1:00:49
go, it's just, it's just two hours of people talking.
1:00:52
And it's like most movies were like that were, were like that
1:00:57
prior to, to like a lot of things like this.
1:00:59
So, and like this obviously isn't that.
1:01:02
It's not just two people talking.
1:01:04
It's a lot of action and humor and comedy, you know, just
1:01:07
things going on. But it it's themes are it wears
1:01:11
its heart on its sleeve is probably the best way I could
1:01:13
put it. Like it is not afraid to
1:01:15
advocate for the things it wants to advocate for.
1:01:17
It's not afraid to stand up for the little guy as it literally
1:01:21
is all about that. So yeah, great movie.
1:01:26
Go see it. Fuck yeah dude.
1:01:29
Or WASD and beyond. Gold Star.
1:01:33
Oh, this gets yeah. Big time Gold Star here.
1:01:35
Which is you can. Give it.
1:01:37
Does not give you the same perks as a silver star, just.
1:01:41
Or the platinum you have? Yeah.
1:01:43
Or the platinum. Yes, they're they're separate.
1:01:46
Yes, they're. Different know what a tier is.
1:01:48
Well, I don't know what a star is.
1:01:51
But yeah, man, no, we, we love the film.
1:01:54
I wanted it before we're going to sign off, but I really wanted
1:01:57
to say thank you to Troma, thank you to Syniverse, thank you to
1:02:01
Bloody Disgusting, thank you Uncle Lloyd, thank you Macon
1:02:04
Blair, everybody involved with the latest and greatest toxic
1:02:07
adventure. Thank you guys from the bottom
1:02:10
of our hearts for having us involved in any capacity for
1:02:13
this film. I mean, just the memories of us
1:02:15
advertising and getting pumped and getting the teasers and the
1:02:18
little spoilers we would get here and there from you guys and
1:02:21
emails and me sharing it with the rest of the team.
1:02:23
Here it was. It was incredible to be able to
1:02:26
work with something that I've loved since I was a child and so
1:02:30
then see it come to fruition in theaters with my closest friends
1:02:34
and it was it was great. So thank you to that entire
1:02:38
team. Thank you to the sponsors as
1:02:40
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Yeah, WASD will return next week with new IT came from screen
1:02:49
box. It is Alex's turn.
1:02:51
We will return with a new WASD on Friday.
1:02:54
Me, Brody or me and Evan, whoever, Noah, Alex, myself
1:02:57
actually have a movie we have to review and we have an interview
1:03:00
coming up. We got to get scheduled.
1:03:02
We have a lot going on here, you know.
1:03:04
About what it is, you know what it is we've.
1:03:06
Been pretty busy. We talked about it.
1:03:08
We talked about it Alex, like oh shit.
1:03:10
But until next week guys, take it easy and be safe.
1:03:50
Music.