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This is an unspoiled network podcast. This is spoil Me, covering one piece
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episodes three ninety five and three ninety six time limit. The human auction begins
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and the fist explodes destroy the auction. In these episodes, we've got a
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slave market, kiddos, a slave market that is depicted simultaneously as horrible as
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anyone would imagine a slave market to be, but also a lot more colorful,
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lively, and more like an entertainment than I was ever expecting. Welcome
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to spoil Me. Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank
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you very much to Florian for commissioning this episode. What's up Florian, if
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you're here, thank you very much. I am y'all really caught off guard
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by the way this episode like, so this was for those who aren't aware.
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Commissioned as a voyeur, which means that I watched the episode while on
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camera and everybody gets to see my reactions to what happens, and I went
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into it. I think it was sarahim who like asked what I was thinking,
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why I was commissioned for this particular couple of episodes, And they asked,
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do you think it's gonna be like fist punch victory moment. Do you
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think it's gonna be something really sad? Like? Are you what are you
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guessing? And I thought it was going to be a victory thing, but
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not like you know, finishing an arc type victory, but like there would
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be something very satisfying. And it's funny because that's what it wound up being.
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But it comes so late. It's literally like the last thing to happen
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right before the credits is the satisfying thing. And I had literally the whole
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episode just been like, somebody kill this guy. Somebody just fucking do something
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to this fucking guy. Like I was ready to snap because I hated this
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character so much. What is his name? Guys Saint Something, because they
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they're like holy beings or that's the story they're telling everybody, right, so
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he everybody is going by Saint Something, which really, can you imagine being
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amongst people who believed themselves to truly like to occupy a place of a god?
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Basically I can't. You know, I know that they're actual people out
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there, but they're usually somewhat guarded in saying it out loud because they understand
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how that would be perceived. And these folks just really are being what they
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are right out in the open, and I keep being surprised. Saint Charles,
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Okay, thank you, Sarah Fums has punched the rich. Indeed,
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Sarah fhim. Indeed, so I just realized, I'm like on camera only
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just now realizing my nails match my top almost completely, exactly perfectly. Nobody
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who's listening cares, but I promise the effect is very, very pleasing.
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I like it. Sarah Fums says worthless, inbred, entitled, asshole or
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any other such descriptions are also valid. Yeah, this dude, and I
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said this while watching. They really knocked it out of the park making somebody
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so hateful, And I mean, it's really interesting after going through the number
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of villains that we have for this show. Every arc has its own batties
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and it's got its own particular like focus on one batty, and there have
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been plenty that I have not liked. But when I really hate somebody,
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I kind of feel like, okay, Oda has zeroed in on the particularly
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worst type of person, and that was what I thought, like with sandom
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and I'm realizing now that there are like a lot more types of worse person
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then I really am prepared to admit to myself because I don't like thinking about
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what that means for the state of the world, you know, knowing that,
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like there are just so many varieties of complete asshole piece of shit,
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and this dude just I think was it was spandom right, not sandom to
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say spandom. I don't remember what I said, but you know how I'm
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talking about. I really hated him because of his sadism there, you know,
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and I said a couple of times that it felt like there was like
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a sexual edge to the way that Robin was being treated. Even if the
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show couldn't really go there, it felt like it was definitely in the air.
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That's also how it feels with Kamy, like, let's just be completely
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real. They're like the fact that Kamy is a mermaid, it's almost like
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nobody is really treat that as what it is. Like there's still a feeling
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of like, well, we're going to raper though, even though she's a
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mermaid and that's like possible, I guess, like in a way, but
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not you know what I'm talking about, Like that, it's just a really
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weird thing how they managed to tow that line where they never get explicit about
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what the threat is, but we all fucking can tell because of the visual
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cues and just because of the like male gaziness of this series in general.
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It's just there and it's not. I don't think it's going away, but
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um, the thing with Charlis is that he is He's a really different type
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to me. Like Spandam was was he was desperately trying to prove something,
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whereas Charles doesn't feel the need to really prove anything. His power is self
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evident, and Spandam felt extremely insecure, like all of his viciousness and his
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cruelty seemed to come from a place of wanting everyone else to acknowledge how powerful
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he was. And it was really a bizarre thing to watch because he was
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surrounded by people who had all kinds of power, whether just being highly trained
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or having eaten devil fruits, but he himself never really wanted those fruits for
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himself. He just wanted to employ the people who had those abilities. And
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I was always just sort of surprised by it that it was like he would
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rather be the manager. But in a way, it does make some sense
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that it's almost like him acknowledging I wouldn't put this devil fruit to as good
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use as these dudes who are already amazing fighters probably would. With Charles,
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it's there's a real sense of y'all know already. I don't have to prove
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anything to you. You have to prove you're worth talking to to me.
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You have to prove your worth keeping alive to me, And anything that I
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do is purely for my own entertainment and to like there's a real energy for
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me of to keep away the boredom. It feels all the time like he's
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on the verge of being bored enough that he will summon somebody in and just
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have them beaten for entertainment. There's nothing about it that seems like I'm trying
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to exercise power over you, because I enjoy the feeling of the power.
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It's the power is taken so for granted and it is so like completely part
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of who he is, and it's unquestioned that he deserves it and will always
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have it. That the edge of almost desperation. I think that Spandom had
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he doesn't have, and that complacency is what is so galling to watch.
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There's no moment where he seems to really think he's going to suffer any kind
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of consequence and even if he were to, like you know, I am
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really wondering, what's gonna happen to lose me? Now? He threw a
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punch and it is very satisfying to watch. Don't get me wrong, I'm
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really glad. But on the other hand, what's going to happen now?
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You know what is what is the cost that we now have to pay for
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the pleasure of this very brief moment of punching this guy? U Sarah F
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M says, really span him and Charlis are the same type of so funny,
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so if from saying the exact opposite of what I'm saying, just one
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has actual power and they want the other only has a little power and wants
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to kiss enough ass to get more while abusing what little amount of it he
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has. Yeah, see, I don't feel like they're the same type.
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Like, I get what you're saying. But because Charlis was born with this
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power, it has turned him into a really like his A person in Spana's
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position who actually has a lot of power and gains it doing what Spannham has
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done is going to have a different energy than somebody like born into it and
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the whole like charlis just taking it for granted, not only that nothing's gonna
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fucking happen to him, that he be treated like a god. Everybody out
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here is literally falling on their faces when they see him. The fact that
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somebody was walking past him with a fucking they there was a person on the
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edge of death, and he expected all of these like EMTs basically to still
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take the time to kneel and put their entire lives on hold, just because
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he happened to be walking by, And really was I think genuinely outraged that
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they didn't do it. What is that like? What is it like to
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really feel like you have the right to not only ask, but expect that
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of people. And I'm not I'm not going to try in front with everybody
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and pretend that I don't have my own problems with entitlement. I do.
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And they'll sneak up on me sometimes and I'll notice and be like, whoa,
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oh, what is that? Sometimes not in time to have stopped the
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aavier. I may not notice for years. But there are certain types of
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entitlement that I have never felt, because I have never been in the position
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of certain people and watching from the outside, it's a wild experience to really
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see how differently people can live their lives, how differently we can move through
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the world depending on what we have been taught. Is our due, you
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know, So let's let's I'm talking about this like all in hypotheticals, and
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I haven't really like gotten into the meat of the episode because we have a
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lot of stuff going on here. The beginning of the Human Auction begins starts
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off with the Vice Admiral Lufy's grandfather who is having tea and cookies with I
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think it's cookies with some dude like a marine officer, and he is telling
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him about how the guy, what is his name is it? I keep
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wanting to say Hadley, but he goes by Dark King and it's the woman's
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husband that they were just talking to, who she says is like a hundred
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times stronger than Lufy. The thing that the Admiral is guessing is going on
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here. He thinks that this dude wrecked up some gambling debts and sold himself
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into slavery to pay them off, which he says this in such a way
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that you know, it feels like this happens a lot, And I can't
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imagine being as of being that powerful and feeling like and this is me kind
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of telling on myself, but honestly, in a world like this where ross
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strength can mean so much, if you have that kind of power and you
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wind up getting into gambling debt, I feel like you've got some very brute
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strength means of getting out of that debt. So if he is not taking
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those options, there's a sort of ethics to him that's interesting. You know,
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he feels like he should pay it back. I don't know. And
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he says for this officer not to tell anybody that he's there. Raley,
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that's his name. He says. He may be older. But even if
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we don't like come at him kind of carefully, we're gonna lose so many
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dudes, so we're not going to handle it that way. And I I'm
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trying to remember the name of the series. The writer was Mark Lawrence and
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I covered this for spoil me. It was such a wild series. But
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the first line of the first book is something like, and I'm paraphrasing here,
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but it's something like, when attempting to kill a nun, it is
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important to bring with you an army of sufficient size. That's the first line,
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which I have got to say, I think is the best opening line
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of anything I have ever read, because it makes you ask thirty questions immediately.
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You want to kill a nun and you need to bring it an arm
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Did you say army? Is that right? That can't be right? And
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you know, as you go through the series you start to be like,
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oh, yeah, no, that makes that makes sense actually, But yeah,
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this whole thing is so the proportions of what we're looking at in terms
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of our I don't even want to say like adversaries, because really isn't against
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our crew, at least not yet. But we're dealing with levels of power
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here that are a completely different echelon than anything that we have seen so far.
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And the tricky thing about the way that we're ramping things up here,
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and I'm just gonna like kind of be honest with you guys about this,
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even though I recognize that to a degree, I have got to suspend my
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disbelief on certain things. So you know, I'm willing to do that,
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and I will do that, but I do want to make it clear where
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I'm coming from. I feel like you start to get very tricky when somebody
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is supposed to be so bad at and then they get defeated by our people
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who have only seemed to level up a little bit, like and that was
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sort of the brilliant thing that they did with Maria, because he basically over
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extended himself. So even though he was really powerful and probably could have done
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some serious damage and ruined their lives, then he goes too far and it's
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self defeating instead, which is a really neat get out of jail free trick.
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And then we've got that weird dude who shows up and instead of having
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to fight him, all Zoro has to do is make a deal with him.
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So we've got two very tricksy ways to have people who are allegedly unthinkable
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high powered adversaries, and they both are treated in such a way that we
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can sort of step around that, and we don't really have to confront that
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with Raley because it doesn't look like we're going to have a confrontation with him
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or going to be dealing with other people. We still may be able to
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get around that, you know. But I am really curious because there has
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been a sort of a weird treatment of what Lufy's leveling up has been you
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know, we've talked about like first gear, second gear, third gear in
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very abstract terms. It's never really made clear at all what that means,
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where he learned it, how he figured out how to do any of this
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stuff. He pulls things out as if he's used them before, and it's
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a surprise to us, But there's a sort of energy to it, as
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if there were fights we haven't seen where he was like practicing this technique and
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it's not. I don't believe that's the case, unless it was happening during
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one of the filler episodes that I haven't watched yet. I've watched a few
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of them, by the way, I just wanted to mention that here.
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But I'm really curious if we're leveling up on so many of the outside players.
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Our friends have got to progress in order for me to believe it at
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all that they're coming out victorious ever, And I really hope if we do
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that, they are going to be better at explaining how that's happening than they
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have been. And I don't know if maybe it's just me who gives a
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shit about that and that's why they didn't bother doing it with Lufy. I
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think that you guys have been talking about how I think when I shared my
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sort of feelings on the whole thing with his jumping into like second gear or
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whatever was he did, some of you mentioned it might have been Dragon ball
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Z, but you were talking about how like there's some series where it's tons
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of training montages and that Oda doesn't have the same interest in depicting that kind
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of thing, which I really do understand, I mean to a degree,
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like how do you make that interesting? But if you don't want it to
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be through training, if you want it to be like a happenstance that he
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discovers there's a new thing he can do, I would at least like that.
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I would at least like to see Lufy stumble on being able to progress
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to doing something new and being like, Wow, what's this? How did
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this happen? Instead of him just busting it out in the middle of a
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battle like it's an established thing. And that's sort of what they did with
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Sanji. You know, he gets so angry when he finds out that this
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guy's going to try and forcibly marry Nami. He burst into flames. And
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now from then on. It sort of seems like he's just able to do
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that and able to incorporate fire into his fighting technique. Is it a great
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explanation? Not really, but it's an explanation. I'll take it. It's
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definitely something, you know, it feels like we've gotten origin here with Lufy
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because he's the main character. It's particularly peculiar to do it the way it's
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been done. So I am just gonna put that out there that I have
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my reservations on how this has been handled so far, and I really hope
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it's not just more of that because it's very unsatisfying to me. And like
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I said, we don't need there to be tons of training, you know,
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I don't need to have the Rocky theme playing while Lufy turns himself into
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a hot water bottle successfully and unsuccessfully. By turns, it's not a requirement
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to handle it that way. But I just don't want to feel like I
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missed an episode or something when it happens. Let's see Garps rice Crackers says
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Gus rice Crackers. Okay, I think he's drinking green tea as well,
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though that is very green green tea. But nevertheless, Sarah fhim says,
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Plus, it's made pretty clear Maria has been a lazy bum the last decade
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or so and not really keeping himself in peak shape. I didn't realize that,
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Sarah him. I'll be honest, because you're saying it's made pretty clear.
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I don't think I noticed that. Like I know that he's shallot shaped,
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but I assumed that was just his shape. You know, the using
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fire started back in and his lobby with diablade Jombay did it, I don't
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remember. Odah's explanation is simply that it's an expression of the heat of his
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passionate heart. Oh with um with Sanji right, not loofy when in his
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hot water bottle technique. I don't remember it at and his lobby, but
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I believe you and his lobby. Sanji is just out of it for so
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much of the time that I've kind of forgotten what role he played. I'm
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going to be straight with y'all. He you know, winds up running off
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and doing some other crucial stuff. But I the main players for that fight
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that I'm thinking of, Sanji isn't one of them. No offense Sanji,
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so this like starting things off. I was wondering if we were going to
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get the Marines dealing with really in these two episodes, but it does not
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happen yet. We do get eventually an announcement that starts circulating through all of
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the different groves that Ace is going to be executed. And it's a really
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weird thing because I think they're doing, like, correct me if I'm wrong,
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guys, Is Ace's execution happening here or is it simply that the news
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is traveling from another play too here. I felt like it was the way
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that it was being talked about. It seemed like it was going to be
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happening on one of the groves here, And I don't know if that's incorrect,
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but it's kind of funny if Lufy was sort of like Ace wouldn't want
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me to save him. Ace will be fine to then accidentally find himself in
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the middle of the exact space that's his brother is going to be executed.
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But yeah, so let's go to the Human Auction. It's a very big,
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sort of stadium like building. It kind of looks like a temple from
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the outside, and inside it really looks like a huge theater, like an
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amphitheater. It's a sunken stage and all of these seats, and there is
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the master of ceremonies. For this is a guy named Disco who he is
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a real He's called mister Disco. He's got very long white hair with bangs
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which do not become him. You shouldn't have gone with the bangs. He
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is wearing a long skirt and coat and they are purple with like green sort
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of scallop patterns, a very roundy sort of yellow hat with big orange flowers
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on it. The only thing that's like vaguely disco like is his star shaped
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sunglasses. But for somebody named mister Disco, he really isn't giving disco at
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all. I when I heard his name was mister Disco, I was sort
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of expecting the camera to pull back and get at least like one of those
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seventies prom tuxes with the like ruffled front or something. At best, I
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would have liked a bell bottom type fitting outfit, you know, like something
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kind of approaching, maybe an Elvis impersonator outfit. Or you could have even
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done like one of those high waisted black pants with the shirt tucked in but
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unbuttoned all the way down, like a Saturday night fever kind of look at
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a pompadour. But yeah, this mister disco is really to me, Like
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the vibe I'm getting off him is hippie much more so. So let's see
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they're saying it. They don't think it's specified. Gus says, there's a
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movie, so it's not Cannon where Lufi discovers Gear two by something falling on
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him and it compressing his legs in the same way. I'm not sure how
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he actually discovered it, though. With Gear three, I could totally see
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him just coming up with it on the spot, like, lo, what
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if I just blow up my hand like a balloon and it makes my punch
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or something like that. Yeah, and see this is the thing. It
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is believable, but it's not done. And that's what I think is so
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strange. There's a million ways that you could have Lufy figure out how to
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do these other gears and having him just be like, hah, what if
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I did this thing? I would be down to hear him sort of be
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like, you know what, I'm gonna try something new and just goof around
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and he comes up with this like really effective new technique. I would actually
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enjoy spending a little bit more time with Lufy when he's like fucking around in
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that sense, because I think it would be it would suit his character a
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lot. But it's just a thing that's already here and ready to go.
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The thing with the movie. It's interesting that they felt, Okay, we're
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going to do a movie, and at least whoever's writing this does believe we
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should explain it somehow, somebody out there felt like it was worth focusing on
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all bit So anyway, this is when we get the introduction of how this
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whole ceremony is going to go. All of the different slaves are being like
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focused on, and there is a real vibe to this of we are going
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to rub it in the audience's face as much as possible, how utterly awful
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all these people are that are bidding. There's a couple in the audience.
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This guy's talking about how he's going to get more eye candy for his collection.
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This lady talking about how the male slaves she had broke down after only
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ten months and she wants somebody that's going to be more reliable. And all
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of it is punctuated by people like discussing every person who's brought onto the stage
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in very dehumanizing terms. Mister Disco discusses each of them by calling them it
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and you know, occasionally he's using like regular pronouns, but there's a lot
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of like, oh, this is an item that's coming up for auction,
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you know, and each of the different people who comes up. We've got
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this guy who is his name is Byron, and he's very brooding and has
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like long curling hair, and there's just a very like clear Lord Byron thing
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that we're doing here, which is really funny because I read somewhere that Lord
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Byron was actually not very attractive, and he had his portraits like redone and
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then circulated his favorites so that people who didn't meet him would think him a
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lot more beautiful than he really was, which in a time where selfies weren't
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a thing, that sounds like a pretty great way to go. Why not
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just catfish everybody who cares? And so the bidding begins, all of these
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people like start throwing their money around. Eventually there are some folks who were
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like, ah, why did I go with that one? I should have
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waited because apparently, like they get a little program that tells them what's on
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the docket, but I don't think that all of them read it. Sanji
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gets it, so he knows that some things are coming, but they also
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aren't accompanied by photos and stuff. So if you think you're gonna like one
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person better, and then they bring out somebody who's like, maybe hotter,
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you're just kind of shit out of luck. And so we get a bidding
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more that's happening here, and eventually the camera pulls away and we get inside
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mister Disco's head and find out that he has got some plants in the audience
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that are artificially driving up the prices of things by bidding on them excessively,
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which is like, as you guys know, this is not an unheard of
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tactic at all, but it is a very risky proposition because if that person
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can't match you, you are putting yourself in the position of having to pay
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for it unexpectedly yourself, which really sucks. Maybe you can recoup your losses
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behind closed doors when that person approaches you later and it's like, look,
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I really would like to take that off your hands, but yeah, let's
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see, sorry, guys, Saraphim says. He mentions that he figured out
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GEAR two by watching CP nine US shave. He's pretty much doing the same
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thing they do to get a quick burst of speed, but because his body
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is rubber, his heart and blood vessels can withstand the increased blood pressure without
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exploding like a normal humans would if they use it for more than a second
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or two. I don't remember that at all. I'm going to be straight
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up with you, Sarah Fim. That feels like complete news to me.
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Gus is saying, Sarah f M, he figured out how to move very
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quickly while in Gear two by imitating shave, But Gear two itself is not
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based on anything that CP nine is doing at all. It's something he can
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only can do because he has a rubber body. Oh that makes more sense,
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because, yeah, Sarah Fim, your explanation. I was like very
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hungry for and searching for an explanation, and so this not ringing any bells
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at all was surprising me. But I think what Gus is saying makes some
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sense, because otherwise I really feel like I would have retained that information since
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I wanted it and I was asking the question a lot when that episode first
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happened, and nobody offered that explanation. So I, yeah, I think
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Gus is right on this one. But anyway, so as all of this
33:07
is happening, our friends are trying to rush to get to the auction before
33:13
Kami gets put on the block. And it's a very funny sequence because Zoro
33:20
is unknowingly heading in the correct direction because he thinks that everybody is going to
33:24
be at Grove one, So even though he has struck off by himself,
33:29
he is still like on the job and just doesn't realize it. The problem
33:35
is that eventually he like, despite being at Grove two and us, thinking
33:39
that he is one hundred percent almost there, this is going to be perfect.
33:45
He then finds himself at like Grove twelve unexpectedly, and he thinks that
33:51
some people gave him bad directions. But I maintain that they gave him perfectly
33:54
fine directions and he just went the wrong way. I don't know. They
34:00
did act very sketchy when they saw him, and he asks why, and
34:04
they're like, because you beat the shit out of us, And I think
34:06
that's probably true, you know. But what winds up happening with him is
34:10
that Lufy is passing above and spots him and just grabs him up with his
34:16
rubber arm and pulls Zoro onto the flying fish that he is riding, which
34:22
Zoro is like annoyed by, but I was just sort of like, dude,
34:25
he's doing you a favor because everybody knows you don't know where you're going.
34:30
You yourself have just admitted that, like you're basically lost, So yeah,
34:36
let him give you a quick uber. It's fine. And Zoro there
34:40
was like an almost confrontation with some guys and they are about to fight him,
34:49
and this dude, he's like, do you know where Grove one is?
34:52
We'll tell y'all right, but I don't think you're getting there. Your
34:57
bounty is mine. And this guy lifts his sword and Zoro just raises his
35:02
eyes and looks at him, and the guy backs up and drops his sword,
35:07
and everybody else in the circle surrounding him also backs up. And I
35:14
really really enjoyed this moment. I am going to continue making my comparisons to
35:19
Cradle, but what I felt from this scene was like, this is the
35:23
vibe of when you unveil your spirit and let somebody know that you're like under
35:27
a lord level. This is a moment of Look, I was trying to
35:30
be play, but if you want to know who you're fucking with, I
35:34
will gladly tell you because none of us wants this. I can't, I
35:37
don't have time. So so all of this, you know, we've got
35:44
Oosop going off and figuring out who it was that captured Kamy. That's when
35:50
they find out that it was Peterman. Just it's he's so clearly Peter pan
35:55
Peterman, come on, that is really funny. And Sanji is riding with
36:04
I can't remember his name now, pretty boy, and that dude seemed to
36:08
know where they were heading from the beginning. And so even though Sanji is
36:12
frustrated over the fact that they are traveling a lot slower than everybody else because
36:16
they were heading in the right direction since the beginning, this dude is very
36:21
confident they're going to be the first ones to arrive. But it turns out
36:25
that Chopper is already there, so sorry about it. Sanji is unreasonably mad
36:31
at him. And it makes sense that he would know, because Sanji says,
36:38
like, oh, kidnapper intuition, and I was sort of like,
36:42
well, they were planning on selling Kamie, so yeah, I guess he
36:45
would know probably where the human auction is going to be, so the crew
36:54
that we have that wind up going inside the auction house. We've got Frankie
37:00
Sangi Chopper in a sort of like in his larger form, Nami, and
37:12
there is like a weird little humpty dumpty looking guard outside, really really strange
37:17
looking dude. And of course we have Hatchie and the Starfish and the whole
37:29
like what they're planning on doing going in here once they realize that there's really
37:37
no force that they can use, because it's Frankie's instinct to do the equivalent
37:45
of pulling a gun, and Hatchie has to be like, dude, you
37:47
are going to ruin us if you do that. You can't not only are
37:52
you going to get in so much trouble if you fuck with any of these
37:57
celestial beings. All so, it's very good odds that inside Camy has one
38:02
of those exploding collars on her, so you'll be doing more harm than good.
38:07
It's potentially like what you're doing could kill her. So he does back
38:12
off, but Nami is the one who's like, all right, look what
38:19
we've got to do is beat them at their own game. They're selling her,
38:23
right, fine, We're going to buy her and they do have like
38:30
a fair amount of money, so this looks like it's gonna work. It's
38:36
seeming like this is a good plan. We have a really quick like I'm
38:42
not going to dwell on this because you know, I have limited time here.
38:45
But there is a pirate captain named La Cuba who he's got a very
38:51
sort of when I picture the pirate Blackbeard, this is the look that I
38:57
was imagining. And he's pulled away and he is really really distraught, like
39:04
every nobody wants to be here, but a lot of them are sort of
39:08
suffering in silence, and they're angry and clearly, you know, you can
39:13
see it all over their faces that they would murder every person here if they
39:16
could. But he is the one that's expressing the most outright fear and genuinely
39:22
like, please don't do this. I can't like that. I just can't
39:28
do it. And once he's brought out on stage, his distress is really
39:32
like he's animated in such a way that I was like, oh my god,
39:36
this is really sad, and he ends up bleeding and collapsing, and
39:43
eventually Sanji explains that he bit off his own tongue so that he would bleed
39:53
to death and not have to die as a slave, which I think I
39:59
asked whether or not that works, and people in the comments assured me that
40:02
it does, which I really like. It's a really fascinating thing to me,
40:08
how and it's morbid, you know, but like the kind of the
40:16
kind of desperation you would have to feel to do that. If you're going
40:22
to kill yourself, there's a lot of different ways to accomplish that, and
40:27
there are means that are much more like requiring of a certain type of willpower
40:32
than others. There are some where, you know, if you're just going
40:37
to pull a trigger or drink something, but it's a kind of like you
40:42
do it really quickly. There's no immediate pain necessarily. It's either over before
40:47
you know it, or it's the it sets in after and you could potentially
40:54
undo it, depending And then they're like, other way is that I have?
41:00
The one that I always think of is Elliott Smith who stabbed himself in
41:05
the heart, which is just a truly like I can't imagine that kind of
41:10
suicide, Like there are just so many simpler ways, and to do it
41:15
that way is just there's a viciousness to it that I'm like, wow,
41:22
and biting your own tongue off the way you've got to psych yourself up to
41:29
even be able to physically do that, that is really scary to imagine being
41:38
in the headspace where you can even pull that off. It's just so unthinkable
41:44
to me, you know, And I mean, I'm grateful that it's unthinkable,
41:49
but I really was just startled that this is even a thing, and
41:52
I shouldn't be because that people have been forced to like endure horrific shit,
42:00
And it makes sense that some people have figured out a way, you know,
42:04
when you're bound and you don't have access to like weapons or anything,
42:08
you don't have the freedom of movement, finding a way to do it,
42:14
but that is just so hideous, Like you're attempting to cause this rapid bleeding,
42:22
maybe choke on your own blood and potentially die that way, choke on
42:25
your tongue that's loosen your throat, maybe just blood loss, like there's a
42:30
few ways that could happen. I mean, oh my god, you guys,
42:35
that really got to me. That was awful. So the whole way
42:43
that this like winds up going down, our friends have gathered around to try
42:49
and buy it Kami, and I really appreciated that. Hatchie and Starfish,
42:57
they both are so touched at the fact that the crew is going to give
43:00
all of their money up, like at whatever it takes. Nami is essentially
43:07
like money is no object. She's a friend. We're gonna do what we
43:10
fucking need to do. And these guys are just deeply, deeply grateful,
43:16
and there's a real assumption that she that we may not even need to spend
43:24
all of that, that that should be more than enough. And there's I
43:30
won't say like a complacency about it, but there is a certainty, you
43:32
know. And then here comes fucking Charless and he's arrived really late because his
43:42
slave was walking too slowly. Everybody has to avert their eyes and be really
43:47
like, you know, in awe of him, and he sits down.
43:53
They unveil Camy and he immediately bids five hundred million berries and it is just
44:04
just so out of their price range. For lack of a better way of
44:09
saying it, I mean, they all are stunned because the bid it's not
44:20
even like they could potentially raise this in any amount of time. It's more
44:24
than double all they have, and it was nothing for him. Charlos is
44:32
just excited because she's a mermaid and now he has one, and it's just
44:37
I acquired this new toy. And we find out, just to add to
44:45
the gross out factor of what he's doing here, that the tank he would
44:51
store her in is filled with piranhas and he plans to put her in there
45:00
and watch her attempt to escape them, and his like bodyguard, I think,
45:08
says something about how you know she's not going to last long, and
45:13
he replies, it'll be fun to watch her try. I mean truly,
45:22
you guys, that is so I know that it's all emphasised, like exaggerated
45:30
to make us hate him even more. But this isn't a thing. That
45:36
isn't real. You know, people just like throwing away ridiculous sums of money
45:40
to demean someone else for a very temporary enjoyment. That is not you know.
45:46
I just I really didn't think I could hate him more than I did,
45:52
and I do. And that's his that's an opening bid. This mister
46:00
Disco says, what's open with a starting bid of and he interrupts to say
46:07
five hundred million, and even mister Disco is unprepared. Is truly not really
46:12
sure what to say, because he had not thought this was going to go
46:15
this way at all. There's no moment where anybody is even considering outbidding him.
46:22
I don't know that anybody would even have the money to try, So
46:27
he winds up with Kami. There's a long sequence of like the gavel falling,
46:32
and it almost feeling as if maybe we're going to have a moment of
46:37
intervention where somebody is going to jump in and say no, wait, and
46:43
he won't have the chance to like drop the gavel all the way, and
46:47
that will mean the sale isn't official. It does drop, though it is
46:53
official. And as this is all like going on, we've got the other,
47:01
like you know, formidable captains in the audience. Some of them are
47:07
taking off. I think it's kid who finally gets up and leaves. I'm
47:12
trying to remember the name of the one that's got the really short hair,
47:17
and I think he's dressed in a lot of black and white. I can't
47:20
remember, but he's the one that kind of like looks the most normal.
47:24
Honestly, he looks like the kind of dude that works at a skate shop
47:29
or something. And all of them are sort of looking around for Lufy,
47:36
and there's a sense of like maybe we're waiting to start some shit, but
47:40
I don't know why they would. And at this point Lufy crashes through the
47:50
wall on the Flying Fish with Zoro, and we find out here that Zoro
47:55
is not like he has no idea what's going on, because he still thinks
48:04
we're going into Grove one, which is where the ship is. We're just
48:07
going back to the ship, and he has not caught onto the fact that,
48:12
like, we have a whole other emergency happening here. Sir oh Gust
48:17
says Trafalgar law. That's right, And I'm looking at him now, you
48:22
guys. So he's got that little like chin beard, double pierced ears,
48:27
really long sideburns. He's got like that hat that's almost like a kangle hat
48:32
or almost like a bucket hat. I don't know, tattoos. And I'm
48:37
realizing who he's reminding me of. And he's giving a little bit Trent from
48:43
Daria, who I don't know of anybody attracted to men who was my age
48:51
when that show was airing, who did not have a crush on Trent.
48:54
Now I can see him for the like loser he is, but I thought
49:00
Trent was the hottest and was like, just you know, for Trent.
49:06
So this arrival with Lufy, this is when we see kid like turn and
49:12
be like, oh, well, here he is. And I don't think
49:15
they fully appreciate what focus Lufy has on his objective, because he just starts
49:22
sprinting down the stairs and it's like Kmie, I've been looking for you everywhere,
49:27
and he's attempting to interfere, and as he does, Hatchie runs after
49:34
him and tries to stop him, grabbing him by both his shoulders, and
49:39
it's not enough. Lufi is continuing to run and just dragging Hatchie behind him,
49:45
and as he continues to run, Hotchie gets kind of desperate and without
49:53
considering what's going on here, his other arms come out from underneath is big,
50:00
like he's wearing most of what looks like a letter jacket and grabs Lufy
50:06
to slow him, and somebody spots it and is like, oh my god,
50:08
he's a fishman. And as Lufi continues to run, Hochi stops and
50:15
is like, oh shit, I've completely given myself away. Lufy, for
50:22
his part, is absolutely not noticing any of this happening. All he's thinking
50:28
about is Kmie, and he is just continuing to sprint flat out, while
50:31
poor Hatchie is just sort of like fumbling standing on the stairs, looking around
50:37
and panic, not really knowing what he's going to do, and all of
50:44
these guards are coming to block Lufy from getting on the stage, while the
50:47
people in the audience are accusing Hachie of like carrying diseases or being here just
50:57
to like stir up trouble, go back to see you freak get out of
51:01
here already. We don't want you here, and everybody starts throwing shit at
51:06
him. It's a very like I Am not an animal kind of moment,
51:10
except he is a little bit of an animal. The Starfish runs down and
51:16
is like, dude, you really have got to get the fuck out of
51:19
here, to which Hatchie is like, I'm not leaving without Kamie. Why
51:22
would I do that? And I had forgotten. Sanji doesn't know about the
51:28
whole like, you know, discrimination against the fish people, So he's up
51:34
there going why are they reacting like this? What's the deal? And Chopper
51:39
says, why are they like that? They're no different from us, which
51:45
is really funny because like they are different from you, but that's fine,
51:49
except that they aren't that different from Chopper because he's also partially an animal.
51:53
But yeah, it's all of this is like really quickly brought to a halt
52:00
by somebody pulling the trigger of a gun and we see all of this blood
52:07
and Hatchie goes down and it turns out that it's this fucking asshole, Saint
52:15
Charles, who shot him, and he apparently does not think Hatchie is dead
52:22
because he's very jubilant that he's now got another slave that was totally free,
52:32
and also that he was able to like apprehend this guy himself. This wasn't
52:38
somebody caught by a slave catcher. This is somebody who he managed to shoot
52:45
himself, which is like a lot more of a trophy. And he begins
52:50
just prancing about talking about how he did it. He did it, he
52:54
took down a fishman, and some lady in the audience says, thank goodness,
53:00
someone shot it. It's just really, guys, it's awful. I
53:07
hate this. And poor Kamie, of course, is like she's in this
53:13
tank that looks like a giant Christmas ornament, really and she's just pounding on
53:17
the glass like there's nothing to be done. She's just sitting there watching them
53:22
shoot her friend. You know, like I just I really felt for her
53:28
in this moment because she's being forced to witness at all and she is utterly
53:32
helpless. So this is when fucking Charlie says, I shot it myself.
53:39
It's free. That means I can have it for free. An octopus for
53:44
me, an octopus for free. And he is so excited that he is
53:52
not noticing the expression on Lufy's face as he approached. And Lufy is stopped
54:01
by Hotchi, who is still alive, and there's this monologue that was really
54:10
really well delivered by the voice actor. I was really impressed by this,
54:17
you guys, because like, there are a lot of moments in this show
54:22
where the soft music begins to play and somebody is saying something that's supposed to
54:27
be like really moving or kind of profound, and sometimes it works and sometimes
54:35
it really doesn't. And that's the tricky part of like using that kind of
54:39
music is that I'll find myself getting resentful, feeling like I'm being manipulated by
54:45
the music, and I'll just be like stop it, knock it off with
54:47
this, It'll be more profound if you didn't underline it so hard. But
54:52
this moment where Hatchi is talking to him, because this voice actor just not
55:00
it out of the park so bad, I was like, this is really
55:01
hitting, and he basically is like, first of all, don't forget that
55:07
you promised me you were not going to fuck with the celestial dragons, even
55:14
if they killed somebody. So just that's my number one. Remember that.
55:21
Secondly, I have done some fucked up things in my life and I agreed
55:27
to help you all because I wanted to make things right with Nami. But
55:32
I kind of deserve what I'm getting. I didn't really face the consequences of
55:40
all of the horrible things I've done. I was trying to make amends with
55:45
Nami. It wasn't much, but I just thought I could do what I
55:50
could do, And at this point I fucked that up and I'm sorry about
55:58
it. And he says I wanted to do something right for once and show
56:05
Nami how sorry I am, and Nami starts to get really emotional because she
56:10
didn't realize this was such a motivating factor for me for him. For me,
56:15
that feels like a real Freudian slip. But I'm not going to examine
56:19
that at all. And he says all I've ever done in my life is
56:23
cause trouble. And I really felt for him on this, you guys,
56:30
like I just truly that there was something about this that hit really hard,
56:37
the feeling of just I know, I fucked up. I'm trying to make
56:40
it right, and even in doing that, I fuck up and make things
56:44
worse. Like Jesus Christ, I should probably just check out. I'm not
56:49
making it better. I'm not helping. What's the point. Of course Charles
56:52
has to chime in here and say, oh my god, shut the fuck
56:58
up. And he pulls his gun and is like, I'm going to shoot
57:01
you again, and Lufy tells him to back the fuck off, and he's
57:06
like, well, I guess I'll just shoot you since you're talking to me
57:09
like that, because how fucking dare you? And Lufie begins to climb the
57:15
stairs again. Even after this like heart to heart with Hotchie, where Hotchie's
57:21
like, you remember your promise, Lufy is kind of going, yeah,
57:23
you know what fuck promises. He's closing the gap between him and Charlus as
57:31
everybody is realizing who he is and that he is dead ass serious about doing
57:37
this thing, and Charlos pulls the trigger two more times and Lufy just dodges
57:43
it. It's nothing you barely even notice, you know, like, and
57:49
then Lufy punches Charlos in the face, and the punch is such that the
58:00
animation style goes from full color line drawings to this very like sketchy sort of
58:08
style in black and white. It honestly looks, hello, dope. I
58:15
really really liked this. It's also funny because, like Lufy in his regular
58:21
animation, occasionally he'll be portrayed with maybe like a six pack or something,
58:28
but they never really make him super muscular. He's rangy and lanky, and
58:34
his whole thing is how much he can stretch. Muscles aren't much of a
58:38
thing unless he's eating a hundred shadows. But in the animation, where it's
58:45
like this sketch drawing, he is jacked all to hell, like he's so
58:51
ripped, and when his fist makes contact, this guy's face basically caves in
58:59
entirely, and Lufy's face the like growl that he is making. This is
59:07
a level of rage from him that I don't feel we have ever seen,
59:13
and I may be wrong. There may be a point you could bring back
59:16
to and you're like, no, here's another point. This just hits different.
59:22
And I mean that in the punniest way possible. It feels like this
59:28
guy hit a particular button and Lufy has lost his entire mind, and Homeboy
59:37
just goes fucking flying. There's smoke, Lufy takes a moment to just stare
59:45
after him and then to be continued, and that is the end of the
59:49
episode. And I was just like, oh shit, I don't know what
59:55
happens now, you know, like it feels like this was a mistake,
1:00:00
but it was very satisfying mistakes, so I can't really be too upset about
1:00:05
it, you know what I'm saying. Sarah him says the most satisfying punch
1:00:09
in anime truly. Like I just it's like the charless thing. It's not
1:00:16
just his attitude either. His animation is the like he is first of all,
1:00:24
very fat, but fat in a very slovenly sort of way. There's
1:00:30
you know, different ways that you can go when you draw somebody fat,
1:00:35
and the way that it's done with him is he's like very sloppy. He
1:00:40
has the running nose, he's got like five o'clock shadow. There's a sense
1:00:45
of like, I don't know if it's animated this way, but I imagine
1:00:49
him having stains on his clothes kind of thing. And there's just a feeling
1:00:53
of somebody who any sense of hygiene coming from servants who wash him because he
1:01:01
doesn't lift a finger to do any of it himself, and combined with his
1:01:06
facial expressions where he has this really like I'm going to lift my eyebrows but
1:01:09
barely open my eyes because i am going to look supercilious, but I'm not
1:01:15
going to put that much effort into it. The whole the lazy is not
1:01:22
like an adequate word for what this guy is like. It's he is truly
1:01:31
so slovenly. And I just the way that he is like demanding things of
1:01:40
everyone around him when he could barely be bothered to keep breathing. It's really
1:01:45
remarkable. And yeah, Sarah Fhimsays writing animation voice, the fucking voice actor
1:01:53
does such a good job with him, so good. And I've mentioned in
1:01:58
the last episode how there's a moment where he's just making like mouth noises,
1:02:04
but it's all like and a lot of times those little mouth noises for different
1:02:10
characters. It feels kind of like I don't see them making these weird noises.
1:02:15
But okay, I guess you have to put something there with him.
1:02:19
I'm like, no, this is a dude who's making fucking noise all the
1:02:22
time. He doesn't shut up every like, anything happens and you're going to
1:02:27
know about it. I bet he was the loudest child like So anyway,
1:02:34
I really hope Luf he has just caved his face in, but I don't
1:02:37
think that's happened. I think he's just going to have been punched. But
1:02:40
I would like for it to be punched into a paste, that is what
1:02:45
I would like, and for him to never ever stand up again. But
1:02:52
I don't think I'm getting my wish. Sorry about it, all right,
1:02:59
kids, I'm gonna rapp up. But thank you again Florian for commissioning this.
1:03:01
I didn't see Florian here, so I think he wasn't able to attend,
1:03:05
But we missed your bud And until next time to loom motherfucker's That was
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