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A Compelling Natural Podcast: The Dyatlov Pass Incident · Hocus Pocus Lack Of Focus

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  Good to see August fall check of Hocus Pocus Lack of Focus, the
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  very uneducational podcast that tracks true topics such as
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  witchcraft, paranormality, true crime and all things weird in
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  the world. Today we will be discussing the
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  Diatlav Pass incident and it really has something for
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  everyone. It's Misha Jussie and I'm going
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  to enjoy today's episode because it's weird, unexplainable, and
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  everyone gets naked. I'm joined by a man who will
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  enjoy today's topic because it's based on Cold War Russia.
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  If you heard a tear that was his bone or ripping through his
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  pants by the mere mention of Russia, it's pushing burn.
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  I am also naked right now. And as always, it's our Hostess
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  with the most chest who will of course enjoy today's topic
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  because it's full of death and there's no nasty numbers
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  involved to make her silly head all 30.
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  It's Daddy Thomas. I have a learning difficulty.
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  That's what we're saying. Yeah, you're retarded.
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  Walks dead, guys. We could call her retarded
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  again. We can, yeah, and I am.
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  That's fine. But I am really, really glad
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  that we're back to something a little bit more grizzly this
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  week because I had a, I had a awful, awful time last week.
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  With the scary numbers. I hated it.
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  The scary numbers were like 1 + 1 and you just started crying
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  and we're like, and then 2 + 3 and you just got like that 1000
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  yards there. That was just like, you know,
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  you're back in school again and you had your dunce cap on.
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  I've ADHD and I have dyscalculia.
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  It's not a good combination. You can say dyscalculia.
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  Also I'm autistic but like shark autistic not like fucking not.
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  Useful in the greater world. Autistic.
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  I have nice tits, I don't need to.
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  I don't gonna leave the table autistic.
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  Leave the table. Leave the table.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're all tits thick.
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  So for anyone who was not listening to the last episode,
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  you've just jumped in now because you've typed in the
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  Yacht Love Pass into Spotify. We did an episode on simulation
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  theory last week, and when it got down to a it wasn't even the
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  quantum mechanics that gotcha it was.
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  No, it was counting the simple numbers to get us to the golden
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  ratio. And it was, Yeah.
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  It was like watching a child get its hand caught on a door you
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  just filled with tears and made no noises.
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  She did cry a little bit. I did very.
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  Straight at the camera be, you know, like just threw her eyes
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  pleading like please, please help.
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  And help. So what?
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  What are we doing this week, Danny?
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  To soothe yourself? Load the dead room questions.
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  Not so bad. Really.
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  Happy about it. So yeah, the Diatlof pass.
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  So I've we've been talking about doing this one for ages now.
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  Since episode 1 I think you've been talking about what to do
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  the Diatlof pass. And there's like, there is so
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  much that goes into it and they've already given me shit
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  for it being like, what, 6 pages?
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  Yeah. I put quantum mechanics into a
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  paragraph and you've done 6 pages of Russians go up a hill,
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  Russians all die. And that's the episode, folks.
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  So I've been Justy. She's been Danny.
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  No, but like I did a bit of storytelling. 10 of you scales.
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  Yeah, if you cookish scales, so I'll just jump in.
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  That's like it is puka scale isn't it as ghost story?
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  Yeah, ghost story. Yeah.
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  But also, a puka snail is like a is is a snail you call a puka
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  snail. So I think the one that Gary is
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  in SpongeBob. No, that's an animated snail.
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  A puka snail is a. Snail.
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  He's supposed to be a snail, obviously.
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  A type fucking sea snail. He's a fucking.
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  Are we, are we thinking of like in Monster when they call snails
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  Shella Kabuki's? That's not a thing, is it?
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  It is. It's a Waterford thing.
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  Shella Kabuki. Fantastic because Kabuki Mario
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  is after coming straight to my mind there and that's you know
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  that Kabuki Mario is based on the not a raccoon, but that
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  raccoon dog in Japan that looks all cute.
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  So he's not related to a raccoon at all, but it's just like, it
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  looks like a raccoon, but it's a type of like little fox looking
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  thing. And then that's what Mario is in
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  in Super Mario Brothers 3, the best video game that was ever
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  made, and nothing has ever been better than that.
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  It is pretty good, yeah. I am using this time to pour
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  myself a drink because I don't know anything about Mario.
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  That's a lot of vodka. I'm sorry, Jesus.
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  Christ, great. That's what those Russians said.
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  It's not. I'm getting in into the.
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  Spirit getting into a character of a Russian.
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  I'm method. I'm I'm method reading this one.
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  Plus I thought it would be fun as well, just because you get to
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  do your Russian accent a lot. Do I like a terrible, terrible
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  Russian accent? I think that's the point of this
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  show is that we just do bad. Accents.
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  Unless and the public will never hear it.
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  But if it's unless it's my Indian accent.
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  You did it last week. I'm sure Alex got that out.
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  No way. There's there's no way.
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  I'm sure it was, it was vital. It was, it was the only one of
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  three times that you spoke during that episode.
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  So you has to keep it in. My my favorite, my favoritism.
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  I'm I'm like a neppo baby with Alex.
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  Um, right. I will also disclaimer before I
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  start, I am going to start, I promise.
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  But this is going to be a lot of me mispronouncing Russian words.
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  Oh yeah, like as I was reading this.
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  I can't wait to watch you try to pronounce these words.
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  Like, I didn't even. Yeah.
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  So the Northern Urals, February 1959.
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  There is literally nothing out here.
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  No roads, no towns, no cell towers, no power lines, and
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  frankly, no sign that anyone has ever been here at all except for
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  markings carved into trees by the Mansi people who have lived
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  nearby for centuries. We'll get into those a little
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  bit later. Above the tree line, the forest
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  disappear, turning into a place known as Dead Mountain.
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  I'm not saying the Russian name because I've already said Dead
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  Mountain. Nine people were heading toward
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  it. They were young, experienced,
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  and they knew exactly how dangerous it was.
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  But something went wrong. It wasn't in the way that you
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  would expect, like an avalanche or getting lost in bad weather.
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  It was something stranger than that, something that over 60
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  years later, no one has been able to explain.
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  This is the story of the Diathlov Pass incident.
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  I love the way you've just just like straight away, but like not
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  an avalanche, not nothing when they basically said on 2
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  occasions when they've done like when they've gone it's.
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  A theory. It's a theory.
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  I don't believe, yeah, exactly. I don't believe it.
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  But the actual explanation is avalanche like just so I know
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  where you stand on it straight away.
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  I think that's the least plausible I.
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  Don't know about least plausible.
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  One of the least plausible. Again, we'll get into that later
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  as to why that is so. The Soviet Union was changing in
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  the 1950s. Stalin was dead.
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  And Nikita Khrushkarev. That's right, right?
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  Khrushchev, Khrushchev. Khrushchev.
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  Khrushchev, Khrushchev, you let me get through this because
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  you're fucking complaining about how long it is.
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  It felt. It felt, for the first time in a
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  generation, like ordinary people.
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  Continue there. Is that a delay or are you just
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  trying to fucking piss me off? Just trying to piss you off.
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  Just shut up. I'm trying to read like I'm so
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  bad at doing this. Just just like fucking all
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  right. It felt, for the first time in a
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  generation, like ordinary people had room to breathe.
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  The restrictive air of wartime was finally letting up, and new
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  freedoms, however small, were opening across their country.
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  One of those freedoms was the outdoors, walking clubs and
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  skiing clubs. The Soviets call this sports
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  tourism, organized expeditions into the wilderness, sanctioned
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  by the state but fuelled by an energy that the state they
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  couldn't quite control. Young people, especially
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  students, took to it in a system that governed nearly every
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  aspect of their lives. The mountains offered something
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  that no one else could escape. At the Euro Polytechnical
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  Institute in where spurred Lovsk.
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  Spurred Lovsk. Lovsk, the skiing and
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  mountaineering club, was one of the most popular organizations
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  on campus. UP I had grown into Russias
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  biggest technical school by the 1950s and was deeply tied to
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  local industry. It produced engineers,
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  physicists and radio specialists.
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  Serious students training for serious careers.
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  But on weekends and holidays, those same students strapped on
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  skis and disappeared into the EUR.
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  They did it for the same reason anyone does something dangerous.
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  It makes them feel alive. So this was like post war Russia
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  where, like, you know, everyone was kind of like riding high on
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  the successes. And even though they were still
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  under, like, you know, a very controlling government regime,
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  something like this was like, oh, yeah.
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  Like, you know, we'll encourage just, like, sports tourism.
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  It kind of like ties into how during the war, like, all that
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  Russian propaganda was about, like, you know, people, their
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  relationship with the land and, you know, bonding with their
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  country to build this type of patriotism.
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  Yeah. But they also had nothing else.
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  They didn't have fucking ping pong tables.
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  They were like, oh, what can we do for fun?
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  Let us walk up the hill like they've got nothing.
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  They actually so the Count from Sesame Street.
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  Let us go into dangerous mountain.
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  How? How many only mountains will be
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  climbed today? One terrible accent.
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  I thought that yours, maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but I
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  thought that you did have a good a good lash.
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  And I can't, I just, I don't know whether what to tune into
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  or you know, I have to, I can't be.
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  Heated rivalry If you watch heated rivalry, you'll get a
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  good. I'm not watching that.
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  I'm not watching it, not because it's gay, but because it's ice
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  hockey. It's there's barely any ice
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  hockey. There's like ass hockey.
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  It's just fucking. It's literally just a lot of gay
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  sex. It's a lot unlike the the fact
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  that the same guy who does short who made shores he made it is
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  the funniest thing in the world to me.
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  But anyway, in the summer of 1958, while trekking through the
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  Alati Mountains, a fifth year radio engineering student named
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  Igor Diala Jatlov. I don't know, I'm focusing on
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  not getting the words wrong, that I just got it wrong.
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  I'm sorry. Told his hiking companions about
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  a plan. He wanted to lead an expedition
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  to the northern Euros in winter and become the first to reach
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  the peak of Mount or Tartan, which is Dead Mountain, in
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  February, the most brutal month of the year.
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  Everyone knew that Dead Mountain.
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  They knew the terrain around it was hostile and very dangerous.
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  But four people immediately showed interest.
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  All right, here we go. Here we go.
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  But what wasn't it that Oh, sorry, you have I I, I'm just
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  reading on there. You have it down there that they
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  they were going for like a particular like badge.
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  So they were like, you have to go to like a.
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  It's like a a Charter 3, yeah, like a Level 3 that I think
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  they're these all of these climbers were a level 2 and then
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  this one would like obviously bump them up so.
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  It's funny that like that is they're kind of like this is for
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  them is like they're so remember in school use get swimming
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  badges and you're like where you would.
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  Exactly. The blue group, the white group
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  or the yellow group? Yeah, these guys are, they're
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  basically jumping into the deep end.
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  Yeah. So this is what this is.
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  Yeah, except. For essentially.
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  Extremely opposite and they are climbing up a hill instead of
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  swimming in a 7 foot pool. That's clear.
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  That out for me guys. Anyway, so 44 students
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  immediately showed interest, which is Nikolai.
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  Let me try this. Nikolai Taboo, Brignol, Rustem
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  Slobodin, Yuri Krivonishchenko and Yuri Yudin.
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  OK, thank you for that. By January 1959, the outlaw had
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  assembled a group of 10/8 men and two women.
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  The Sverdlovsk City Route Commission approved the
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  expedition and confirmed the group on January 8th, 1959.
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  The route was classified as Category 3, the highest
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  difficulty rating for such a trip.
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  It required trekking over 300 kilometers of the wilderness
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  because every member of the group already held Grade 2
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  certification with ski tour experience.
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  Completing this expedition would earn them that coveted highest
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  Grade 3 status. Diatlov panned the trip to take
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  16 to 18 days. Does anyone else want to name
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  the hikers for me please? Jesus Christ.
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  OK, I'm going to, I'm going to see if I can get some of these.
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  OK, so we have Igor Diatlov. 23. Zenada, Zena Kolmogorova. 22.
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  Ludmila Luda Dubenina 20. Yuri Doroshenko 21.
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  Jorge Yuri Krivonchenko 23. Rustem Rustic Slobodin 23.
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  Alexander Sasha Kolovatov 24. Nikolai Tibo Brignioli.
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  Oh, that was Italian 23. You're a Yudin 21.
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  And the last guy? Simeon Sasha Zolotarov, 37.
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  So I'm going to go a little bit into Sasha because he is a
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  little bit of an outsider here and is one that we will come
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  back to at a later point, but the oldest of the group and
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  stranger to almost everyone on the expedition.
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  Born in southern Russia to a Cossack family, at age 20 he was
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  drafted into the Red Army. He fought from Stalingrad to
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  Berlin, earned 4 military decorations, and remarkably did
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  so without sustaining a single wound.
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  This just means that this this motherfucker is a terrifying man
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  like. He was.
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  In the Red Army during World War 2 and didn't even get fucking
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  wounded like. Nothing.
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  And statistically, only 3% of Soviet soldiers who served from
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  the beginning to the end of the war survived.
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  Like that's just he didn't. Even have a scratch.
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  Like literally scary. Just build different.
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  I don't know. He was a coward.
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  And hate the whole time. Yeah, I don't think he did, but
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  I'm just saying I. Think this guy.
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  I think this guy has killed 50,000 people.
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  Yeah, yeah, he's the guy that they make films about
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  afterwards, like. Baba Yaga.
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  He eventually found work as a senior tourism instructor.
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  He was a master level ski instructor and mountain hiker.
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  He was single, which raised eyebrows in that era, and had
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  gold capped teeth and a mustache.
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  Beneath his clothes. He had many tattoos, including a
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  5 pointed star and a cryptic untranslatable inscription that
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  roughly read Dermies Dare Musiah, whatever that is.
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  Which he sounds exactly like my type.
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  I would, I think I would. Fuck it.
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  I was literally about to say that.
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  Like you have a framed photo of him hung up in your apartment.
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  Legit like the gold capped teeth, the mustache tattoos like
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  go on. So while he asked the group to
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  call him Sasha, his real name was Semyon.
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  He was originally assigned to a different expedition, but
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  switched to Diatlov's team at the last minute because their
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  route was longer. Luda wrote in her diary that
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  initially nobody wanted him because he was a stranger, but
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  they eventually accepted him before leaving.
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  So that tear off told his own students something strange.
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  This whole world will start talking about this trek.
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  He offered no further explanation, saying only they
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  will find out about everything. I mean like if I was going on a
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  trek up a mountain in like the most dangerous time of year in a
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  well known dangerous route and a guy turned up with a load of
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  like questionable tattoos, a mustache and a gold tooth said
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  something like this. Absolutely fucking not like this
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  guy. It just, he sounds like he's
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  just like, yes, maybe they will die.
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  Everyone will talk. I would expect him to challenge
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  me to like a fiddle duel because that's the devil.
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  You think that thing that was written on his chest is just
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  like, you know, like in case you missed this and I see what like
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  do you think that's like? Like it's it's an acronym for
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  something. Yeah, exactly like.
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  It's just. Yeah, exactly.
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  Like demons are evil real mass murderers under Zionist
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  Hallelujah. Whatever, I'm going to give up
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  halfway through. But like it could.
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  Be an emotion into anal. That's perfect, that's all I
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  like to do. And but like, it could be a
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  Russian acronym for something absolutely fucked up.
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  It's the first initial of every person he's killed on the
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  mountain. Yeah, it's it's mountain.
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  Alert, right? So on the night of January 23rd,
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  1959, the 10 hikers boarded a train in Sverdlost at 9:05 PM.
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  They shared the ride with the Blinhof group, a separate hiking
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  party bound for a different destination, Zuneda.
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  I'm not saying the second name. Zuneda's diary painted a chaotic
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  scene of departure. Where are my felt boots?
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  Can we play mandolin on the train?
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  We forgot the salt. Sounds like a wild train ride.
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  I'm not having a stroke. That's what she wrote in her
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  diary. During the ride, the boys made a
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  pact to solemnly swear not to smoke the entire trip.
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  Excitement fill the air. Group Diaries note that late
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  night conversations about love became a running theme, most of
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  them provoked by Z Kolmogorova. Uh, Life on the trail and The
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  Evening are Toten. The group created a satirical
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  newspaper dated February 1st titled Evening are toten #1.
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  This was a popular team ritual among Soviet expedition groups.
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  It read like a collection of inside jokes from people who
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  genuinely enjoyed each others company.
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  The newspaper advertised A philosophical seminar on love
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  and tourism held daily in the tent with lectures presented by
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  Doctor Thibault and candidate of love sciences Dubanina.
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  It's asked jokingly, can one stove and one blanket warm 9
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  tourists? The science section reported
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  that the snowman lives in the northern Urals near Orton
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  Mountain, and the technical news section mocked Nikolaitibo's
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  attempt at building a drag sled, saying it was quote good.
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  Well, riding on the train, by car and on horseback for cargo
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  transportation of snow is not really connected.
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  Like, it seems like they're just like having like, a really good
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  laugh the night before. Like there's like, there's
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  something like, quite like, flirty about their approach to
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  it. Like, you know, like one stove,
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  one blanket. Will that warm all nine
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  tourists? Yeah.
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  And you know, like this philosophical seminar and love
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  and tourism, it's maybe they were going up the mountain to
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  fuck and just put that out there.
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  They're also talking about the Yeti.
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  Or I don't know what they call it in Russia, but that's what
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  the snowman. Abominable Snowman.
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  Exactly. So they, they kind of do a whole
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  thing where they, they kind of make fun and are talking about
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  like, oh, we're going up there to find the abominable snowman,
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  eh, like just a while they were playing in in the in this news
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  newsletter that they they made. So, umm, yeah, they're kind of
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  just having the crack. But also there's a lot of kind
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  of foreshadowing on stuff that like even when they're talking
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  about the stove there can one stove heat nine people.
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  It seems like like when you're reading it at the start, it's
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  like, oh, that's all fun. And then by the end of it,
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  you're like, did this stove have something to do with it?
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  Wait a minute. Yeah.
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  Did the, did the Obama doll snowman have something to do?
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  Like you kind of go through your head and be like, oh, all these
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  things they joked about at the start.
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  Yeah. Like you know if if Yuri had
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  his. Everything is a factor, yeah.
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  Maybe they'd all be alive, but his sled was shit.
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  Like, so everything now you're looking at like, ah,
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  foreshadowing. As well it does make sense like
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  because they seem like a really tight knit group of friends, it
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  does make sense where they wouldn't want this random
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  stranger with them as well. Yes, this gold toothed
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  mustachioed stranger 3. Year old dude that's just like,
• 21:18
  hey, like, you know what I mean? He's.
• 21:21
  Probably just like standing there, like sharpening a knife
• 21:23
  the whole time while they're like having a laugh, like you're
• 21:26
  just. Like, yeah, eating an apple off
• 21:28
  the knife, like and like talking about how like.
• 21:31
  He's rushing. He's eating a turnip.
• 21:32
  Sorry, yes, yes, eating a turnip, eating some kind of root
• 21:35
  vegetable. But like that's, that's the
• 21:39
  thing. Like, if you picture this as
• 21:40
  like a the opening scene in a horror movie, like he's the guy
• 21:47
  that, you know, like when, when like everybody, he's having a
• 21:49
  laugh. The door opens, lightning
• 21:51
  strikes behind this back figure. And then as the lights go back
• 21:55
  on, you see this guy standing there with his like evil
• 21:59
  moustache and his gold tooth glinting in the in the lights.
• 22:02
  We're all gonna die up there. He's just like, call me Sasha.
• 22:09
  Ain't nobody returned from Dead Mountain.
• 22:15
  My auntie gold teeth. So they arrived in this high.
• 22:23
  Is that this high? Yeah, I guess this high.
• 22:26
  Around 2:00 PM on January 25th and said goodbye to the Blenoff
• 22:30
  group, who continued on a different path.
• 22:32
  That evening they went to a local club and watched a film
• 22:35
  called Symphony in Gold. Ludmila wrote afterward.
• 22:39
  This is real happiness, So difficult to describe with
• 22:42
  words. The music is just fabulous.
• 22:44
  The group spent the next day in Vizi preparing equipment.
• 22:47
  Around 10:00 AM, they wrote home for the last time.
• 22:51
  After lunch at 1:30 PM, they caught a ride on a logging truck
• 22:54
  headed for the 41st District settlement.
• 22:57
  From there, they pushed on to a place called the Second Northern
• 23:00
  Settlement, effectively a ghost town left behind by loggers.
• 23:04
  Their route Track N along the Laudsva River, then turned to
• 23:08
  follow the Ospia River toward the highland ridgeline.
• 23:12
  The indigenous Mansi people had a name for the mountain at the
• 23:15
  far end of the ridgeline, Kolat Sikal, or again Dead Mountain.
• 23:21
  Along the way, the group spotted trail signs carved into the
• 23:24
  trees by the Mansi. So like.
• 23:26
  This, this whole set up here is just so ominous.
• 23:29
  Like, they're having a great time.
• 23:31
  There's a weird guy called Sasha.
• 23:33
  They're like writing in their diary, just like, this is the
• 23:35
  greatest day of my life. The music is beautiful.
• 23:38
  And then there's just like, oh, yeah, that's a logging town.
• 23:41
  It's abandoned to ask no more questions.
• 23:43
  Don't worry. And then it's just like, you
• 23:45
  know. The Indigenous people?
• 23:47
  Yeah, the Indigenous. People who've been there for
• 23:50
  fucking thousands of years and it's just like, oh, what a
• 23:53
  beautiful part of the country. What kind of fantastic name did
• 23:57
  the indigenous people have for this mountain?
• 23:59
  Dead mountain. It is dead.
• 24:03
  We have carved it into the trees.
• 24:05
  Trees, yeah. Yeah, symbols carved into the
• 24:07
  trees as well. It's just a lot of skull and
• 24:10
  crossbones. Yeah, turn back.
• 24:18
  Have either of you seen the movie The Ritual?
• 24:21
  No, I've heard of it. Fantastic.
• 24:23
  I think you might have told me about this one.
• 24:25
  That is that you you recommended it to me.
• 24:27
  But then I don't like horror movies.
• 24:30
  Yeah, it's one of my all time favorite horror movies.
• 24:32
  So it's like a British, a British horror movie and it's
• 24:35
  basically this group of like lads, lads, lads.
• 24:38
  And they've been friends for years.
• 24:40
  They're all kind of like settled down in their careers.
• 24:43
  One of the guys getting married and they're all out on his stag
• 24:46
  do. The one guy who's like kind of,
• 24:49
  I guess like the fuck up of the group is not settled down,
• 24:52
  doesn't have anyone, doesn't have like a a well paying job.
• 24:55
  Like everyone else is just throwing sulks or whatever.
• 25:00
  So they go into this corner shop, he gets in trouble.
• 25:04
  He gets like held up by someone trying to rob the supermarket.
• 25:08
  And then the guy that they all kind of idolize the best guy, he
• 25:10
  gets like shot and killed. And his like last place he
• 25:15
  wanted to go was he wanted to do this trek through like rural
• 25:18
  Sweden and no one would ever go with him.
• 25:20
  But net that he had died, they were like, fuck it, we'll do
• 25:23
  this trek for him and we'll like scatter some of his ashes.
• 25:26
  And it's literally just this essentially.
• 25:29
  And it's like they, they come across all of this like weird,
• 25:33
  like Norse folklore shit happening all these like.
• 25:36
  People living in the world, yeah.
• 25:37
  So this is the thing with like with with Swedish stuff, is it
• 25:41
  gets real fucking scary. Yeah, because they've got like
• 25:46
  their their elves and their trolls and stuff like that are
• 25:48
  like real fucked up. Actual demons, like focal demons
• 25:53
  that live in these woods and stuff.
• 25:54
  And then like they, you know, they it's not the classic kind
• 25:57
  of like Blair Witch trope where they keep getting turned around
• 26:01
  in the forest and like they find an abandoned cabin and they stay
• 26:04
  there and then they go trekking for a day and then they wind up
• 26:07
  back at the cabin like, oh, it's just, it's really, really,
• 26:10
  really good movie. And it's, it's genuinely one of
• 26:13
  the the better kind of modern horror movies.
• 26:15
  But yeah, if you, if you're into stuff like the DLF Pass
• 26:18
  incident, anything like that, definitely check that movie.
• 26:20
  It'd. Be interesting to know like when
• 26:22
  we talk about because like we see what these guys are talking
• 26:25
  about when it comes to like the abdominal snowman and stuff like
• 26:27
  that. I'd be interested to know what
• 26:30
  are the kind of things in Russian folklore that these guys
• 26:34
  would be kind of worried about, You know what I mean?
• 26:36
  Like if we were to be in the woods.
• 26:38
  Turn into Mickey Mouse there. I'm sorry, like like if, if we
• 26:44
  were to like go into the the woods here in Ireland or even
• 26:48
  you guys who are living in the enemy territory, there's a lot
• 26:53
  of Celtic folklore that will be involved.
• 26:55
  Like so again, like all the fairies or the banshee or you
• 26:59
  know, the will out of whisper or something like that.
• 27:01
  You'd be in there going oh fuck, you know, or even as we were
• 27:03
  talking about with the kelpie, the fucked up horse that drags
• 27:08
  you into the river like that kind of stuff that as like the
• 27:10
  Celtic folklore. I'd be wondering what these guys
• 27:14
  are. Is it in in Russia?
• 27:16
  Are they more like we worry about snow?
• 27:22
  Yeah, is very is it's eastern and hilarious chicken leg
• 27:26
  housewife wonder as well as they're like that.
• 27:28
  Don't go into the forest because this particular thing will get
• 27:33
  you. You know what I mean?
• 27:34
  Obviously, Bobby Yaga being like the man was.
• 27:36
  Men called Sasha. We don't need folklore when we
• 27:40
  have man with mustache and shiny teeth.
• 27:43
  Scariest thing in Russia is Russians.
• 27:48
  In Mother Russia, Russians scare folklore.
• 27:53
  But they have like fucking bears out there, you know what I mean?
• 27:56
  Like there's. We have like some kind of like
• 27:59
  demon bear. Yeah, there's more real things
• 28:02
  to be scared of than a make believe thing.
• 28:04
  I'm just gonna, I'm gonna Google it really quickly.
• 28:08
  Just. Now they have a ton of weird
• 28:10
  stuff. Yeah, I, I just, I'd imagine
• 28:13
  like all cultures kind of have their their fucked up stuff.
• 28:17
  I'm just wondering what would scare a Russian You get me apart
• 28:20
  from a Ukrainian. A domovoi, A leshi, and a yod
• 28:24
  yanoy. These creatures often explain
• 28:27
  natural phenomena, enforce moral behavior, or represent untamed
• 28:32
  nature. Standard folklore.
• 28:34
  Baba Yaga. And then there's Koshi, the
• 28:37
  Immortal, who is a sorcerer. I'm trying to find any.
• 28:41
  Oh, here we go. Leshi is a forest spirit, can
• 28:44
  change size, appearing as tall tree or as small as grass, and
• 28:48
  he leads travellers astray, but can be appeased.
• 28:51
  Doesn't say how to appease him, but he can be appeased.
• 28:54
  I've I've found the most Russian sounding one.
• 28:58
  It's called Leko Odd no Glazoi and it's the one eyed
• 29:03
  incarnation of misfortune. You're.
• 29:09
  Calling your Dick it's. Just.
• 29:12
  Like an incarnation of Miss Fortune My.
• 29:15
  Penis is A1 eyed incarnation of misfortune.
• 29:19
  A little bit. There's another one here called
• 29:21
  A Caught Bayon is a giant man eating cat who sings songs to
• 29:25
  lure travellers to their doom. Only a hero with iron strikes
• 29:29
  can capture him. And then there's a bannock,
• 29:32
  which is the spirit of the bath house.
• 29:33
  I don't like this guy. Spirit of the bath house.
• 29:37
  I've seen a few in MMI time. You know you don't have to wear
• 29:41
  your towel in here. You want more steam?
• 29:46
  Sharpening night. I like Schmitz.
• 29:51
  Now let me beat you with palm tree.
• 29:55
  You ever see them in the the Russian bath houses and they're
• 29:58
  like they beat dish dig. So you're going to like a steam
• 30:01
  room and then these guys beat you to fuck with like branches
• 30:05
  of trees. Looks unreal, looks incredible,
• 30:08
  but just imagine very relaxing. A bunch of sashes in there
• 30:12
  beating you at branches of trees.
• 30:13
  See, I could do with being taken down a peg, so I I probably
• 30:17
  would really like that. So on the morning of January
• 30:20
  28th, Yuri Yudin made the hardest decision of his life.
• 30:24
  His joint pain severely flared up and his rheumatism.
• 30:27
  What is rheumatism? It's an.
• 30:29
  Antibiotic artery is. Oh, immediately, Simpsons quote.
• 30:34
  Just like your father will be absolutely fine.
• 30:38
  It's like mom, it's a picture phone.
• 30:39
  It's like, oh, this. I just have a touch of the
• 30:41
  rheumatism. This guy is 21 years old and
• 30:47
  like his rheumatism was fucking him up like this.
• 30:49
  Poor son of a bitch. Yeah, so rheumatism and joint
• 30:53
  pain. His body was telling him what
• 30:55
  his mind didn't want to hear. He couldn't go on.
• 30:57
  He handed off what equipment he could to Yuri Odoshenko so the
• 31:01
  group could put it to use. Lumila pressed a small teddy
• 31:04
  bear into his hands as a goodbye gift and he watched them walk
• 31:08
  away, devastated. Little did he know the decision
• 31:11
  would save his life. Which?
• 31:13
  The level of detail here and he is pissing me off.
• 31:15
  You're like. She pressed a small teddy bear
• 31:18
  into his hand and sent him on his way.
• 31:20
  And he was. I don't a paragraph.
• 31:24
  I don't a paragraph on quantum mechanics.
• 31:29
  You should learn how to research better.
• 31:31
  I fucking. I did 9 days of research but I
• 31:36
  had to put it into a fucking hour and a.
• 31:39
  Half put it into Danny language. I'll just, I'll quit this
• 31:47
  podcast and it'll just be politics and maths and then
• 31:51
  then. Fucking having your fucking.
• 31:57
  Way my own podcast with Blackjack 2 plus. 2 = 5 and Al
• 32:02
  Gore thinks it's raining outside like.
• 32:08
  Is that what you hear when we speak?
• 32:24
  Oh fuck. OK daddy, tell your fucking
• 32:27
  story about these 99 Russian crickets.
• 32:33
  Right. So and then there were nine.
• 32:35
  They pushed along the Lozva, skiing in formation and rotating
• 32:40
  the leader every 10 minutes or so, which sounds exhausting.
• 32:43
  Like, just fucking like. Why are, why are you Power
• 32:46
  Rangers? January 29th and it was Yuri
• 32:49
  Doroshenko's birthday. Klomagorva noted it in her
• 32:53
  diary. Today is Yerka's birthday.
• 32:56
  We first go to Lazla, then we turn to Ospia.
• 33:00
  Surroundings are beautiful. By January 30th, the cold had
• 33:04
  become routine, one diary entry reads.
• 33:06
  Today is the third cold night on the Bank of the Ospia River.
• 33:10
  We are getting used to it. The stove does a great job.
• 33:13
  They are. So there we go, The stove is
• 33:16
  their friend. The stove gets a little too
• 33:19
  friendly door guys, because everybody, because everybody
• 33:23
  starts giving out. Well, how hot the stove got.
• 33:25
  Allegedly. Allegedly, on January 31st, the
• 33:30
  weather turned ugly with gusting winds and heavy snow.
• 33:33
  They couldn't see more than a few meters ahead.
• 33:35
  They tried to push up towards the past, but the weather
• 33:38
  stopped them and they retreated to the Elspia Valley, now
• 33:41
  running behind schedule. That night, Igor Dyatolov wrote
• 33:44
  the last entry in the group diary.
• 33:47
  Can't imagine such a convert. Somewhere on the Ridge with a
• 33:50
  piercing wind hundreds of kilometers away from human
• 33:54
  settlements. So they really were out in the
• 33:56
  fucking back. Arson nowhere.
• 33:58
  The. Urals, if you guys will remember
• 34:02
  when I was talking about people preparing for the end of the
• 34:06
  world, when we were talking about the Anunnaki and Nibiru
• 34:13
  coming like even like, I don't know, yeah, put the Anunnaki a
• 34:16
  sad move to put the the the planet, the planet coming
• 34:20
  around. Eh, if it causes like
• 34:23
  catastrophic, you know, fucking the whole world is going to end
• 34:26
  apparently. And this is eh again, just a
• 34:31
  kind of a rumor. The Russians have been building
• 34:36
  cities inside the Euro mountains.
• 34:39
  So like they're digging to make like an underground, like
• 34:44
  basically a a city size bunker in these mountains just in case
• 34:49
  at the end of the world. That is, again, not to always
• 34:52
  bring everything back to video games like I do, but that is the
• 34:55
  entire plot for a Tomb Raider game.
• 34:59
  Shadow of the Tomb Raider. She's basically going through
• 35:01
  Siberia and has to like cut through a bunch of gulags, which
• 35:05
  is, which is cool, but there's uh, basically a like a lost city
• 35:09
  where the profit is from and it's like in the middle of the
• 35:12
  mountains in fucking Russia, which is very interesting.
• 35:15
  But yeah, that's been talked about for for a long, long time.
• 35:18
  And I thought it's like a really cool premise for a game as well.
• 35:21
  OK, so the group got a late start on February 1st.
• 35:23
  They found a wooded valley where they dug out a labas, which is a
• 35:27
  supply cache buried in the snow, again like a video game, and
• 35:31
  slashed. Roughly 55 kilograms.
• 35:33
  Slashed, stashed. Excuse me, roughly 55 kilograms
• 35:37
  of surplus food and equipment for the return trip.
• 35:40
  Planning to come back for it after lunch, the outlaw led the
• 35:43
  group up towards Dead Mountain. They covered about two
• 35:46
  kilometers before conditions deteriorated.
• 35:49
  The sky closed in, preventing them from determining their
• 35:51
  location. Instead of cutting through the
• 35:53
  pass as planned, they ended up heading straight toward the
• 35:56
  summit. Here, the outlaw made a crucial
• 35:59
  choice. The tree line was only a
• 36:01
  kilometer and a half behind them, promising forested ground,
• 36:04
  shelter from the wind and a safer place to sleep.
• 36:07
  Instead, he chose to stay on the exposed slope.
• 36:10
  The plan was simple. Survive just one cold night and
• 36:13
  then have a warm overnight the following day at Lake Lunka.
• 36:18
  Shopper. Yep, your guess as good as mine
• 36:20
  on. That.
• 36:24
  It looks, it looks right. Whatever.
• 36:25
  Our one listener in Moscow is going to be human with all of
• 36:29
  this. Absolutely It is.
• 36:32
  The one KGB officer that's been assigned to this podcast is
• 36:36
  like, I can't believe they did not get like Lunda Pushka
• 36:39
  Sapter. I followed Danny from Scream
• 36:43
  Queen and she's still shite. They set up camp on the
• 36:47
  northeastern side of Dead Mountain, about 300 meters below
• 36:51
  the peak. The ground angled at roughly
• 36:53
  30°. After that, there was silence.
• 36:56
  Sometime after dark, something happened.
• 36:59
  There is no diary entry, no photograph, and no survivor to
• 37:03
  explain it. Everything known about the night
• 37:06
  of February 1st, 1959 is pieced together from what was left
• 37:09
  behind. So here's where we get into all
• 37:12
  of the the weird shit. The evidence tells us that nine
• 37:16
  people ate dinner in their tent around 6:00 or 7:00 PM.
• 37:19
  The weather outside was savage with hurricane force winds 20 to
• 37:23
  30 meters per second, temperatures plunging to -40°C,
• 37:28
  and a full snowstorm raging across the Ridge.
• 37:31
  The stove was packed away and it's case and never assembled.
• 37:34
  The evening or toten newspaper was near the entrance.
• 37:38
  Everything about the day seemed normal.
• 37:40
  And then something changed. Someone cut the tent open from
• 37:43
  the inside. First small horizontal slits
• 37:47
  were made near the roof, later described as viewing slits as
• 37:52
  though someone was trying to see outside without leaving shelter.
• 37:55
  Then came the home. After cuts, 1 long vertical
• 37:59
  slash and two horizontal tears ripped wide enough for a person
• 38:03
  to climb through. It appeared they first looked
• 38:06
  and then they ran. Nine people left the tent and
• 38:09
  walked into a Blizzard wearing almost nothing.
• 38:12
  Every pair of boots, jackets, raincoats and backpacks stayed
• 38:16
  behind. Cut food, satin plates
• 38:18
  suggesting a meal either half prepared or just completed.
• 38:21
  They abandoned everything and left in what they were sleeping
• 38:24
  in, with two exceptions. Solitary, off and to.
• 38:28
  Beau were later found better dressed than the others with
• 38:31
  some footwear. This suggests they may have been
• 38:34
  outside the tent when the incident began.
• 38:38
  And like with the, the tent in this state, like it's literally
• 38:42
  just they found like the slits that they, they think was like,
• 38:46
  you know, just cut a couple of slits to look outside, which
• 38:49
  like when you're in a tent to cut some slits, you're letting
• 38:51
  all that cold air in. It's not a logical thing to do.
• 38:55
  And then, you know, cutting it from the inside so you can
• 38:57
  escape. There was no other like damage
• 38:59
  to the tent. You know, it's not like there
• 39:01
  was like, you know, claw marks or, you know, like teeth marks
• 39:04
  that they could attribute. From outside in, it was all from
• 39:07
  inside out, yeah. Yeah.
• 39:09
  So 8 or 9 sets of footprints LED downhill.
• 39:13
  A search party radiogram later described them.
• 39:16
  We managed to identify footprints of eight or nine
• 39:18
  people starting from the tent and going about 1 kilometer down
• 39:22
  the slope. And then they were lost.
• 39:24
  One person was in boots, the others were only in socks and
• 39:28
  barefoot. The footprints were preserved in
• 39:31
  an unusual way. The compressed snow had hardened
• 39:34
  into pedestals that held their shape while the wind scoured
• 39:38
  away the looser snow around them.
• 39:40
  The group moved in single file, with a tall man at the back
• 39:43
  whose prints partly covered the ones ahead.
• 39:46
  A few trails peeled off from the main line for joining back.
• 39:50
  The overall impression, according to analysis, was an
• 39:52
  organized and uneventful descent.
• 39:56
  They essentially walked downhill.
• 39:59
  Whatever drove them out of the tent was terrifying enough to
• 40:01
  make them abandon all survival gear and not get dressed, but
• 40:05
  not terrifying enough to make them run.
• 40:08
  Furthermore, the entrance to the tent was available.
• 40:10
  Why cut through the side? One explanation is that the cuts
• 40:14
  were made on the side opposite the primary wind direction where
• 40:17
  the hiker slept. If the entrance was blocked by
• 40:20
  snow, debris, or a threat, cutting through the walls
• 40:22
  closest to their heads was the fastest way out.
• 40:25
  Regardless, leaving without insulation in -40° weather is a
• 40:29
  death sentence. They were extremely smart,
• 40:32
  experienced individuals who knew this.
• 40:35
  Whatever happened gave them no time to prepare.
• 40:37
  After roughly 500 meters, the footprints disappeared beneath
• 40:41
  the fresh snow. A few items were found on the
• 40:43
  slope. One flashlight was found 450
• 40:46
  meters from the tent, switched on but with a dead battery.
• 40:49
  Another flashlight sat on top of the tent itself, resting on a
• 40:52
  thin layer of snow, completely uncovered, as if someone had set
• 40:56
  it there after the storm had already begun.
• 40:58
  A broken piece of ski lay 20 meters from the tent.
• 41:02
  And like, it's worth saying that like these are experienced
• 41:06
  climbers, you know, like they're, they're like category
• 41:08
  2, they are going for category 3.
• 41:11
  They're going for like something super difficult because they
• 41:14
  have, well, you know, they think they have the experience to do
• 41:17
  it. But if you're a category 2
• 41:18
  hiker, you're, you know, you're no joke, you're not an amateur.
• 41:20
  No. So like these guys would know
• 41:22
  the risks of going up this mountain in these conditions.
• 41:26
  So they would know about, you know, hypothermia, the
• 41:29
  complications from it, the confusion, you know, like the
• 41:33
  way that like you just get like all messed up up there and your
• 41:36
  brain kind of like switches from one mode to another where you
• 41:39
  think I'm freezing to death on then I'm burning to death.
• 41:42
  Paradoxical hypothermia, Is that what it is?
• 41:45
  Yes. And so like these guys
• 41:47
  especially like, you know, there's nine people, like, so
• 41:50
  like if one person starts to freak out, the other people
• 41:52
  would be able to go, oh, no, look, you know, like, you know,
• 41:54
  like we'll help you get through this.
• 41:55
  This is not like you're not burning up.
• 41:57
  We're going to help you out here, but it's it's that all
• 41:59
  nine of them have, you know, taken part in like whatever may
• 42:05
  or may not have happened. So before leaving, Diatlov
• 42:09
  promised that when the group made it back to Vitai, he would
• 42:12
  wire the UPI Sports Club to confirm their safe return.
• 42:15
  That telegram was due by February 12th at the latest.
• 42:19
  February 12th passed with no word.
• 42:21
  Initially, nobody panicked. It wasn't unusual for such
• 42:24
  groups to be a few days late. However, by February 15th,
• 42:27
  family members started asking questions.
• 42:30
  Yuri's younger brother Igor yeah, pushed the university
• 42:34
  trade union committee to contact this size.
• 42:40
  Response was short. They had not returned and no
• 42:42
  telegram had arrived. Things should have escalated,
• 42:45
  but Lev Gordo, head of the UPI Sports Club, told parents of
• 42:49
  Lumita and Sasha that he had received a telegram from Diatlov
• 42:54
  about a delay. That was a lie.
• 42:56
  Gordo assumed that the group would show up and decided to
• 42:59
  manage the families rather than sound an alarm, which is just
• 43:03
  fucking bullshit. Which is Russian.
• 43:04
  We went through this. When we bat Russian on to do a
• 43:09
  Chernobyl, to do Chernobyl and it's like we get this.
• 43:12
  It's very Russian to be like there is no problem, don't let
• 43:16
  on that there's a problem, let's lie about it and deal with it
• 43:20
  afterwards. And it just seems like this is
• 43:22
  what it is. It's like a typical.
• 43:24
  Guys are just freaking out over nothing.
• 43:26
  Like it's just. There's no problem, they are
• 43:28
  Russian. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 43:31
  So February 17th, Rima Kolatova, Sasha's sister, went looking for
• 43:38
  Gordo, but his office was empty. The families finally forced
• 43:42
  action by complaining directly to the local head of the
• 43:45
  Communist Party. In the Soviet system, pressure
• 43:48
  from above moved faster than concern from below.
• 43:52
  On February 20th, relatives demanded a rescue operation and
• 43:56
  the first search parties remobilized the next day.
• 43:59
  I just loved that that like, you know, they had to go to like,
• 44:01
  you know, the local head of the Communist Party.
• 44:03
  And they were just like, OK, no one's taking this seriously.
• 44:06
  And just because he is like that one step on the Soviet ladder
• 44:10
  above them, they were all just like they were.
• 44:12
  The reason that they did the search party then is because
• 44:14
  they were afraid of the consequence of not doing it.
• 44:17
  Because this guy was like, right search party.
• 44:20
  I'm watching. It's also very interesting that
• 44:23
  that guy's office was completely empty, like he didn't work at
• 44:26
  the university anymore when she went to question him.
• 44:29
  Like he was just like, it's just bizarre.
• 44:33
  So the scale of the effort was enormous.
• 44:35
  Uh, Colonel Gregory, or Tukov, from the UPI Military department
• 44:40
  was put in charge. Volunteers, students, faculty,
• 44:44
  and experienced hiking groups, including the Bilanov expedition
• 44:48
  that they met on the train, joined.
• 44:50
  The search included guards from the LAG prison system, seven
• 44:56
  officers from the MVD, main law enforcement in Russia, and Mansi
• 45:00
  hunters who knew the wilderness immediately.
• 45:03
  Again, I keep saying this, but the Mansi tribe, we'll, we'll
• 45:06
  get into those a little bit later, but it just speaks
• 45:09
  volumes that even they were trying to help.
• 45:11
  Obviously indigenous, they know the land, they hunt there all
• 45:14
  the time. And I, I just think it's really
• 45:16
  cool that they did. Well, like I think that the
• 45:19
  Mansi people like again, fair playthrough for joining in here
• 45:23
  like that, but like they're indigenous to the area and
• 45:27
  they're not a big fan of like like, you know, just Russians or
• 45:31
  like laws or like, you know, and also women.
• 45:35
  So I think like there's big things like yeah, send your men
• 45:39
  in here. We'll talk to them.
• 45:40
  We'll go find the men, but we don't care about finding the
• 45:43
  women. Like this is what I have seen
• 45:46
  according to, to one or two sources, like, but again, I
• 45:49
  don't know how true that is. Like, I don't know anything
• 45:52
  about the, the Mansi tribe except for the fact that they're
• 45:56
  mountain people from, yeah, the Urals, which is like a mountain
• 46:00
  range which kind of separates Europe from Asia.
• 46:03
  So they're not like they're, they wouldn't consider
• 46:05
  themselves like Russian. They don't consider themselves
• 46:08
  Asian or European. They're just they.
• 46:10
  Just think they're Mansi. That's it.
• 46:11
  They're like we're Mansi. We are the, the, we are the
• 46:14
  mountain people from all Pierre. Like, So like for them even to
• 46:17
  get involved in this is kind of like, OK, like we have to play
• 46:21
  along to get along, I think. Yeah.
• 46:24
  So specialists were dispatched from Moscow and aircraft scanned
• 46:28
  the terrain from I've Dell. The Blinnoff group brought
• 46:31
  troubling news. They had encountered severe
• 46:34
  snowstorms near Dead Mountain. Officials clung to the hope that
• 46:37
  the Diatlof group had simply dug in somewhere to write out the
• 46:40
  weather. On February 23rd, the team under
• 46:43
  Boris Slobstaff was flown by helicopter to the area around
• 46:48
  Mount or Totten. I'm just going to keep saying
• 46:50
  Dead Mountain. I don't know why I can't
• 46:52
  changing it, It's Dead mountain. Um, so by the following day they
• 46:56
  had covered the mountain and came up empty.
• 46:59
  No flags, markers or signs that the hikers had ever been there.
• 47:02
  The group had fallen short of their destination.
• 47:05
  The next day, Slobsloff's team spotted ski tracks and followed
• 47:09
  them. On February 26th, they found the
• 47:11
  tent on the slope of Dead Mountain, partly caved in and
• 47:15
  draped in snow. Everything the hikers had
• 47:18
  carried was still inside. 9 backpacks, 9 pairs of shoes -1
• 47:22
  shoe, fur coats, blankets and food including biscuits,
• 47:26
  condensing milk and sugar. Also present were the stove and
• 47:30
  axe, a saw, cameras, notebooks, and the group's planned route.
• 47:36
  The evening or Torton Joke newspaper was found inside.
• 47:40
  Outside, a pair of skis stood upright in the snow and an ice
• 47:44
  axe rested near the entrance. The Atlov's jacket had been
• 47:47
  tossed a short distance away. Inside the pockets were a folded
• 47:52
  knife on a carbiner. A small purse containing a
• 47:55
  picture of Zuneda snow covered the northern side of the tent
• 48:00
  and about 15 to 20 centimeters deep.
• 48:03
  The texture suggested it had blown in with the wind and not
• 48:07
  been pushed there by a sudden violent event.
• 48:10
  Like the everything that you would need to survive outside a
• 48:14
  tent was left. Like, you know, there was
• 48:17
  jackets left, socks, shoes, like they, you know, like the knives.
• 48:22
  Like, if you're going to be wandering out into the woods,
• 48:24
  you would think, oh, yeah, like, I need to have like, a knife of
• 48:26
  me. I need to have a torch.
• 48:28
  But like, not even their boots. Nothing their.
• 48:30
  Legs ridiculous whatever was going on like they were like, we
• 48:34
  haven't like if you haven't got time to put your clothes on in
• 48:39
  -4 your. Shoes.
• 48:41
  Yeah. Or you think you're dying.
• 48:42
  Yeah, yeah. But that's, that's it that they
• 48:45
  rushed to go out and not like that they were all like suffer
• 48:50
  from this paradoxical psychosis. Like if they all had to, if it
• 48:54
  was something that they had to run, then that's kind of mental
• 48:57
  in itself. Or if it's that they just left
• 48:59
  that stuff there and wandered out into the the forehead, like
• 49:03
  into the snow, that's even more fucked up.
• 49:06
  Yeah, so the tent was transported back to Ivdel and
• 49:09
  strung up in the police headquarters to be studied.
• 49:12
  At first, everyone concluded that outsiders had ambushed the
• 49:15
  hikers and torn through the canvas from the outside.
• 49:18
  Then came a breakthrough. Vladimir Kortev, a young
• 49:22
  investigator new to the case, recalls that a woman called to
• 49:25
  the station to mend a uniform glanced at the tent.
• 49:29
  According to Kortev, she took one look at the tent and spoke
• 49:32
  with confidence that the cuts were made from the inside.
• 49:36
  Which is so Russian and cool, just like this.
• 49:40
  The old Russian seamstress, which is like, she's just like,
• 49:43
  no, no got come from inside, like it's.
• 49:47
  Just some like some like babushka just been like no cut
• 49:50
  from inside. What are you, an idiot?
• 49:51
  Is the angle of knife you see and it's just like and I'm
• 49:55
  picturing Baba Yaga when I say that as well.
• 49:58
  Tent has no legs. What is this?
• 50:01
  No legs cut from inside, so this changed the entire course of the
• 50:07
  investigation. Formal confirmation came weeks
• 50:09
  later from Henrietta Trekina, a senior forensic specialist who
• 50:14
  examined the tent from April 3rd to April 16th.
• 50:17
  That's just looking at a fucking tent for 13 days.
• 50:20
  Like, it's just funny. Her conclusion matched the
• 50:25
  seamstress. Seamstress.
• 50:27
  The cuts came from the inside. She's just like, yeah, she's
• 50:30
  probably right. But like as well, again, like
• 50:33
  this just confirms like, you know, there was like this is
• 50:35
  like a proper like forensic specialist.
• 50:37
  So like, yeah, she confirmed, right.
• 50:38
  Cuts came from the inside and like there's no mention of any
• 50:42
  other damage to this tent. Like this tent is a great nick
• 50:45
  apart from these cuts. Which is fucking crazy.
• 50:48
  And clearly, like, you know, no sign of a struggle.
• 50:50
  So like, there's no blood. There's no like hair, you know,
• 50:53
  like, say clumps of hair or anything like that.
• 50:55
  Like it's all just like it's sliced from the inside.
• 50:58
  That's all you got. Yeah, so basically she had
• 51:01
  concluded that the hikers were not attacked by outsiders and
• 51:04
  that they had done this themselves to get out quickly.
• 51:06
  The day after the tent was discovered, searchers found the
• 51:10
  first bodies. At 11:00 AM on February 27th,
• 51:13
  search party members Mikolai Sharvin and Yuri Koplatev
• 51:17
  spotted something dark near a large cedar tree a kilometer and
• 51:22
  a half downhill from the tent, Slobstoff's account states.
• 51:25
  While looking carefully around the area, they noticed something
• 51:29
  dark close to a cedar tree. There was a flat area next to
• 51:32
  the cedar, and on this were remains of a fire.
• 51:36
  About two or three meters from the fire they found Yuri
• 51:39
  Doroshenko frozen, without his his clothes and with his hand
• 51:43
  burned, and a little to the side they found Yuri Krevanchenko's
• 51:48
  in the same state. The two Yuri's lay in the snow
• 51:51
  in their underwear near the charred remnants of a small
• 51:54
  campfire. Krevanchenko's right foot was
• 51:57
  bare and his left had a single torn brown sock.
• 52:02
  Another half burnt sock lay by the fire.
• 52:05
  Doroshenko wore woolen socks layered under a thinner pair.
• 52:09
  Neither had adequate protection from the cold.
• 52:12
  The cedar tree told an intriguing story.
• 52:15
  Branches had been snapped off as high as 5 meters up, meaning
• 52:19
  someone had climbed in the dark and the freezing wind either to
• 52:23
  look toward the tent or to break wood for a fire.
• 52:27
  Lower branches 5 centimeters thick had been sawed off with a
• 52:30
  finished knife, and some of the branches were found next to the
• 52:34
  dying fire. So like, this is the, this is
• 52:37
  like a weird, well, like, it's all weird, But just the weird
• 52:40
  thing about this is that like, in order for them to leave the
• 52:42
  tent like this, you know, the theory is that they were
• 52:44
  terrified of something and they just went like 400 meters away,
• 52:49
  which like on a mountain, 400 meters, 450 meters is a long way
• 52:52
  to go. And then they were just like, Oh
• 52:54
  yeah, And now we'll just light a fire like it's.
• 52:57
  Yeah. You know, like there is being
• 52:59
  terrified and then there is not being obviously your right mind.
• 53:03
  So Korvanshenko's hands had third degree burns, the kind
• 53:08
  sustained only if the victim is conscious.
• 53:11
  He was awake for those burns. I don't actually know how that
• 53:14
  works, but that is just what I've read.
• 53:17
  Prosecutor Temple of his record states on the backs of his
• 53:20
  hands, the skin is torn. Between the fingers there is
• 53:24
  blood. The index finger is also torn.
• 53:27
  The skin on the left shin is torn and covered in blood.
• 53:31
  And shockingly, Krivashenko's hand had bitten a piece of his
• 53:34
  flesh from his own knuckle, and it was still in his mouth when
• 53:38
  they found the body. And it's not clear whether he
• 53:42
  had on this and like, you know what I mean, just out of like
• 53:46
  unintentionally or if he was to stop from screaming or, you
• 53:51
  know, whatever. Or if he was like if he had
• 53:53
  completely lost his mind and he tried to cook his hands and then
• 53:56
  eat it. Yeah, but that's that's that's
• 53:59
  we don't know like why that happened.
• 54:01
  Yeah. Umm.
• 54:02
  So temple of notes on Doroshenko, where his ear, lips
• 54:07
  and nose are covered in blood. His skin had turned deep brown,
• 54:11
  purple grey foam had seeped from his right cheek, and something
• 54:16
  dark and wet ran from his mouth. The autopsy pointed to lung
• 54:20
  failure, fluid flooding the Airways and tissue battered by
• 54:24
  some kind of impact to his chest.
• 54:27
  Both officially died of hypothermia.
• 54:30
  The medical evidence lined up with that assessment Swelling of
• 54:33
  the brain, darkened blood pooling in the heart, frostbite
• 54:37
  and Weisichensky. Wishnewski Wishnewski spots.
• 54:42
  Wishnewski spots on the stomach lining, which is a classic sign
• 54:45
  of freezing. However, the burns, the climbing
• 54:48
  and the knuckle biting were not the actions of men who simply
• 54:51
  lay down and froze. They were fighting for their
• 54:54
  lives. Well, in what way were they
• 54:56
  fighting? That's why I don't know.
• 54:58
  It's like how Like what was the story with like?
• 55:02
  Why? They're trying.
• 55:04
  They're climbing fucking trees. I guess I get this for whatever
• 55:07
  reason they find the tree like I I get that like either like they
• 55:11
  were up there. I like my theory on this is that
• 55:15
  these guys are not as affected by whatever happened as the
• 55:20
  other as the other guys and they're looking.
• 55:22
  And we'll get to that, yeah. I was like, they're out looking
• 55:25
  for people. So I thought, so maybe they
• 55:27
  claimed the tree to have a look. And while they're up there,
• 55:29
  that's knock some branches off so we can like this fire and
• 55:32
  stuff. But like, what I can't really
• 55:34
  explain is that why is his hand burned and why?
• 55:38
  Yeah, like he didn't just keel over and fall on a fire with his
• 55:41
  hand in the fire. Like there was, there was
• 55:43
  something and. He's in his bare feet and he's
• 55:45
  biting his fucking knuckle. Yeah, like.
• 55:47
  The knuckle is kind of. Really weird.
• 55:49
  Yeah. And like the fact that he took
• 55:51
  off enough flesh off of his hand for that to be found in his
• 55:56
  mouth like is. Yeah, it's a chunk of meat.
• 55:59
  It's yeah, it's it's like a lot like, and again, like maybe if
• 56:04
  you're at that point where you are suffering from hypothermia,
• 56:08
  he probably couldn't even feel that he was fucking non into his
• 56:11
  hand generally mean. He was probably just totally
• 56:13
  fucking numb and couldn't feel. I wonder, like, is the the fire
• 56:16
  something got to do with like frostbite, where like he can't
• 56:19
  feel his hand and he's like, I need to heat my hand up and he
• 56:23
  sticks his hand in a freak. That's what.
• 56:26
  Yeah. Like it's it's.
• 56:27
  Just a possibility. It's a weird one.
• 56:29
  Again, it only gets weirder from here.
• 56:31
  But like the initial, like these two guys, this is the least
• 56:36
  weird part of it all. But still, if it was just these
• 56:39
  two guys, you'd be like, that's weird.
• 56:42
  I wonder what? Happened.
• 56:43
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it.
• 56:45
  It gets so much, so much weirder.
• 56:47
  So three more bodies were found scattered along the slope
• 56:50
  between the cedar and the tent, positioned as if they were
• 56:53
  trying to walk back uphill, eh. Igor Diatlov and Zenada.
• 56:58
  Zena. It's Zenada, right?
• 57:01
  Yeah, but it's, it's at the start, it gives you the out and
• 57:04
  it says that. Igor and Zena were discovered on
• 57:09
  February 27th. Roostem Slobodan was not located
• 57:13
  until March 5th, right under a layer of snow.
• 57:16
  They were found at distances. It gives you all the nicknames
• 57:21
  at the start and you. You.
• 57:22
  I don't. I'm just reading.
• 57:24
  Them, what I'm saying here is like, as you were like doing
• 57:28
  this, you could have just replaced all their names with
• 57:31
  some really easy nicknames that they gave you.
• 57:33
  There's two Yuris, A Zena and a Rustic.
• 57:36
  It's fine, I'm doing it. I'm doing it now.
• 57:38
  I've lost my fucking place. I'm sorry.
• 57:40
  I'm sorry. Thank you again.
• 57:41
  I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
• 57:42
  I'm sorry. Where am I now?
• 57:43
  Verner Layer of snow. They were found at distances
• 57:45
  OF300480 and 630 meters from the cedar.
• 57:50
  Colin Grove made the closest to the tent.
• 57:52
  Diatlov had a fur coat unbuttoned over a sweater and a
• 57:56
  shirt. The shirt had started to had
• 57:59
  started the trip on Yuri Yudin, who gave it to Doroshenko.
• 58:03
  Diatlov had apparently taken it from Doroshenko's body at the
• 58:07
  cedar. Diatlov's socks didn't match and
• 58:10
  he had edema and blood in in his lungs.
• 58:13
  Kongarova had a bruise on her wrist shaped like a baton
• 58:17
  strike. Slobodan had a fracture in his
• 58:21
  skull. The official autopsy ruled the
• 58:23
  fracture non fatal and stated the death as hypothermia as it
• 58:28
  was for the other two. But the blood the outlaw was
• 58:30
  choking on, the bruise on Colungora, and the crack in
• 58:35
  Slobodan's skull raised questions that the ruling didn't
• 58:38
  answer. The final four bodies weren't
• 58:41
  found until spring, more than three months later, on May 4th.
• 58:45
  Searchers located them in a ravine 75 meters deeper into the
• 58:49
  forest beyond the cedar. They were buried under 4 meters
• 58:52
  of snow in a Creek bed, submerged in icy water.
• 58:56
  Lumita, Semion, and Alexander and Nikolai had three of the
• 59:02
  four warm layers that clearly had not been theirs originally.
• 59:07
  Clothing had been taken from the bodies of those who died first.
• 59:11
  Dubanina wore Korvinchenko's burned and torn trousers and her
• 59:16
  left foot and leg were bound in the shredded remains of a
• 59:19
  jacket. Solitary Off wore column grovers
• 59:23
  for a coat and hat. This is like, you know, those
• 59:26
  people, like, went ahead, had clothes on them.
• 59:28
  They, like, dropped. And then the people who were
• 59:30
  coming in behind them, like, saw that they were down, saw that
• 59:32
  they were in trouble, like, maybe realized they were dead.
• 59:35
  And we're just like, OK, we have to take their clothes because
• 59:37
  we're also not wearing enough. Yeah.
• 59:39
  But like, there's total panic. Like, you know, they were like
• 59:42
  chopping up the clothes and wrapping around their legs
• 59:44
  rather than just putting the clothes on.
• 59:46
  So like, you know, there's a, there's a case that they were
• 59:48
  all suffering from hypoxia, which is like when you're up
• 59:51
  like a mountain and it's the the.
• 59:52
  Lack of oxygen to your brain. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you.
• 59:55
  Start to hallucinate and you start to make really
• 59:57
  questionable decisions. And it's, it's just the because
• 1:00:01
  they're so experienced, it's just so unusual that like the
• 1:00:04
  whole group is, they're all experiencing the same like panic
• 1:00:08
  and delusion. Well, like it just for for that
• 1:00:11
  one, like just let's say we're we're all kind of drunk and one
• 1:00:15
  person says what we need to do is I'll jump into the sea.
• 1:00:20
  Like how many times do you see at that?
• 1:00:22
  Like a bunch of people are like, yeah, that's such a great idea.
• 1:00:24
  Let's jump into the sea. So like, yeah, I'm just, I'm
• 1:00:27
  just like, this is playing devil's avocado here where it's
• 1:00:31
  like if we were all open mountain oxygen deprived,
• 1:00:37
  so-called, like, I don't know, Like I worked for a fucking 20
• 1:00:41
  years on the buildings in Ireland.
• 1:00:44
  And we've had some winters where like I'm working on a roof with
• 1:00:49
  like, frosty, like timber. And you can't like when you go
• 1:00:55
  to grab a nail in your pocket, you can't feel the nails because
• 1:00:59
  it's so cold out. Now you imagine that like times,
• 1:01:02
  whatever, like, you know what I mean?
• 1:01:03
  Like it gets -10 is really cold in Ireland.
• 1:01:08
  So like you imagine what -40 is for these guys.
• 1:01:12
  So when we're talking about like, oh, they're wrapping claws
• 1:01:14
  around their legs and stuff like that.
• 1:01:16
  Like what if you can't feel your like, if you can't lift your
• 1:01:20
  legs, you can't bend your legs. Someone is like, let's just wrap
• 1:01:23
  ourselves. And there's no idea as a bad
• 1:01:27
  idea when you've got like no oxygen in your brain and you
• 1:01:30
  can't move your muscles. Like it just I, I just to play
• 1:01:35
  like whether it was like mass hysteria of these people or
• 1:01:40
  whatever it was, I think like logically like to, to say like
• 1:01:47
  that it's strange for like all of them to do these things.
• 1:01:51
  I think it's like it it kind of makes sense that they would all
• 1:01:54
  follow suit. Like especially like if if you
• 1:01:57
  look at like the likes of the outlaws is the the most
• 1:02:00
  experienced person here probably apart from Sasha maybe, but like
• 1:02:03
  no one's going to listen to the weird fucking gold toothed
• 1:02:07
  maniac who arrived. I would.
• 1:02:09
  Of course you, of course you'd be listening to your vagina.
• 1:02:13
  True, Sasha. I would.
• 1:02:15
  But what I'm saying here is like, if, if someone says, guys,
• 1:02:19
  just we need to get one now, just wrap yourselves.
• 1:02:23
  Just do it. Like, I think like people are
• 1:02:25
  going to follow suit and, and all kind of do it as, as weird
• 1:02:28
  as it sounds to us sitting in our, you know, our offices
• 1:02:33
  around Ireland and the UK, those decisions that they made on a
• 1:02:38
  mountain in the Urals in -40 Russia, while they're panicking
• 1:02:43
  for whatever reason, those decisions aren't like, I don't
• 1:02:46
  think we can judge them on the decisions that they've made.
• 1:02:49
  Oh, absolutely not, no. I mean like, I'm not judging
• 1:02:53
  them, but it is also just like. It's weird as folk, it is weird.
• 1:02:57
  So strange. Yeah, I'm not saying it's not,
• 1:02:59
  but I'm saying like until you're faced with and I don't want to
• 1:03:03
  be the guy that's like that, like you, we don't know.
• 1:03:05
  You guys don't know like in a. Snowstorm in Russia and then
• 1:03:09
  we'll talk. Just say you hate Russian makers
• 1:03:12
  and go. Like, but you get what I'm
• 1:03:14
  saying? Like, like we can't put
• 1:03:16
  ourselves into that position because how would you know what
• 1:03:19
  they'd what they do? How would you know what you
• 1:03:22
  would do in that position? Yeah.
• 1:03:23
  Yeah, I suppose. And it's, I guess it's the same
• 1:03:25
  thing as when you're watching a horror movie, being like, don't
• 1:03:28
  bitch. Like, why don't you go check
• 1:03:29
  what noise it is? I check noises all the time.
• 1:03:33
  What? You do.
• 1:03:35
  I am that dumb bitch. You're like, you're like, I hope
• 1:03:37
  I meet a serial killer. Yeah, yeah, you're just like,
• 1:03:40
  oh, who could be out here? Like I would rather like I, I, I
• 1:03:45
  have, I could relax more if I knew.
• 1:03:48
  I have to know what the noise is like what's happening.
• 1:03:52
  And I've like, maybe I've, maybe I've told the story on the
• 1:03:54
  podcast before. I, I do this all the time.
• 1:03:56
  But like when I was babysitting in the middle of fucking nowhere
• 1:03:59
  before when I was a teenager, there was like a scream from
• 1:04:02
  outside and this is the middle of nowhere.
• 1:04:04
  This is down by hook head And I was like shit myself and I
• 1:04:08
  called the guards because I was like, there is a woman fucking
• 1:04:10
  screaming. And they were like, Oh yeah,
• 1:04:12
  we'll be out Saturday night, be out in like fucking two hours.
• 1:04:16
  And they were like, we're telling you, there's nothing out
• 1:04:18
  there. And I was like, I don't care,
• 1:04:20
  like just fucking coming to. I was like pacing around the
• 1:04:22
  place like fucking Drew Barrymore from scream like shit
• 1:04:24
  myself at the TV muted. The two kids were asleep
• 1:04:27
  upstairs. They come out then and they go
• 1:04:30
  out into the back. There's like a porch, whatever,
• 1:04:33
  and there's a vanguard and a guard.
• 1:04:35
  And then he calls me out. And he was like, is this the
• 1:04:38
  noise? And I was like, stood there and
• 1:04:41
  I heard it again. And I was like, yeah, like,
• 1:04:42
  looking at them like, you're not going to go fucking do
• 1:04:44
  something. He's like, fox.
• 1:04:47
  That's the noise that female foxes make.
• 1:04:50
  I was like, what? Pulled his phone up, then on
• 1:04:54
  YouTube fox sex and then he showed me the noise.
• 1:04:58
  The exact noise female fox is making.
• 1:04:59
  It was the exact same noise I'd never heard living in this,
• 1:05:02
  living in the town on me life. I'd never heard a female fox
• 1:05:05
  screaming. And if you want an exact story
• 1:05:08
  again, folks, word for word, go back to the Banshee episode that
• 1:05:11
  we had in episode 19, maybe 20, Definitely talk about but like
• 1:05:20
  it's prevalent to now. But like you definitely, because
• 1:05:22
  we were talking about the the banshee and how we discovered
• 1:05:29
  like we are like, yeah, we think banshees are real in Ireland,
• 1:05:33
  but really it's just foxes riding.
• 1:05:35
  It's just foxes riding or it's like that one weird bird that
• 1:05:40
  sounds like a woman screaming. Is it a Kestrel?
• 1:05:43
  Is it a? Is it a Corn Creek?
• 1:05:45
  I'm not familiar in birds in bird law.
• 1:05:51
  Could you ask the birds? There's no, there's one of them
• 1:05:57
  at night which is like it it, it shrieks and it, it hunts that
• 1:06:01
  night. But there's I think certain owls
• 1:06:03
  that shriek. They don't all go like we have,
• 1:06:05
  Barnells shriek. Do Barnells shriek?
• 1:06:08
  They shriek. Yeah, and I only learned this
• 1:06:10
  the other day from a TikTok video, but apparently they
• 1:06:12
  shriek. I killed an owl on the road,
• 1:06:14
  yes. And I was fucking absolutely
• 1:06:17
  distraught because I Oh, no, yeah, I was there.
• 1:06:21
  What happened? I was, I was just driving down
• 1:06:23
  the road and for some reason I decided to take.
• 1:06:28
  No, it was, I was like stood on the road, but I didn't see in
• 1:06:31
  the last minute. And it was a road I wouldn't
• 1:06:33
  normally take. So I'd normally be on the
• 1:06:35
  motorway. That's an old man.
• 1:06:36
  But instead I was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take the dual
• 1:06:39
  carriageway today. And because I, I wanted to go
• 1:06:43
  through new bridge for just some reason, I took that road and I
• 1:06:47
  was like, oh, is that a bag in the middle of the road?
• 1:06:50
  Is like there's is that white bag in the middle of the road.
• 1:06:52
  And no, it was what I seen the wings flap.
• 1:06:56
  I was like, oh, I'm hitting this.
• 1:06:59
  Yeah. And I was, I, I lost sleep like,
• 1:07:02
  because like, you know, I wouldn't give you.
• 1:07:04
  Would you feel all? Like it's such a.
• 1:07:06
  You never heard an animal? Yeah, such a beautiful bird,
• 1:07:09
  like and I was like, ah, fuck a matter that's that's a terrible
• 1:07:13
  thing I've done. Oh well, I'm going to hell.
• 1:07:16
  I don't drive and like, I obviously I, I've most, most
• 1:07:19
  people I know drive, but like, I remember my brother coming home
• 1:07:23
  one night and he'd hit like a badger on the road and he just
• 1:07:26
  felt so awful. He was in Bates.
• 1:07:28
  He was just like, I don't even like he's like he's not even an
• 1:07:31
  animal person. But it's just the fact that it's
• 1:07:33
  like, I didn't fucking mean to do this horrible thing to this
• 1:07:36
  poor badger who's probably going home to his ma.
• 1:07:41
  Are they? Well, Badgers are bastards.
• 1:07:42
  Well, Badgers, no Badgers. We need to look after the
• 1:07:45
  Badgers. Badgers are one of our, our
• 1:07:48
  like, surviving animals, indigenous to Ireland.
• 1:07:52
  Well, like, look, it is a European badger.
• 1:07:53
  But like the fact that we have them in Ireland, we should be
• 1:07:56
  kind of looking after them because a lot of other animals
• 1:07:58
  we're not. So the government is doing a lot
• 1:08:02
  when it comes to making badger tax.
• 1:08:04
  Well, we, we have the badger tax.
• 1:08:06
  Yeah, we, we, we. Do have the Badgers now we?
• 1:08:09
  Do have badger trails that what they do is they've built like,
• 1:08:12
  pipes on the motorways. So like that the Badgers that
• 1:08:16
  want to wander from field to field, and they put badger
• 1:08:21
  pheromones in these tunnels so it entices the barrel.
• 1:08:25
  Yeah. So it brings the Badgers into
• 1:08:27
  the tunnels rather than across the road.
• 1:08:29
  And yeah, it saved a lot of Badger lives.
• 1:08:33
  I got in trouble when I was visiting my brother in Long
• 1:08:35
  Island because I was feeding possums and raccoons and of.
• 1:08:38
  Course you were. He was like, they're vermin, we
• 1:08:40
  don't want these. Like they're going to be ripping
• 1:08:42
  the fucking bins apart. And I was like.
• 1:08:44
  Yeah, they're so cute. Like we should we?
• 1:08:46
  Were just like they can RIP my bins apart.
• 1:08:49
  Don't make it weird. Possums are like, just like ugly
• 1:08:53
  cute. Yeah, and then everyone's like,
• 1:08:55
  oh, they carry rabies. They're actually, they're,
• 1:08:56
  they're immune to rabies, so they don't carry rabies.
• 1:08:59
  They're just weird looking. And you don't like them because
• 1:09:01
  they're weird, but they're actually very cute and sweet and
• 1:09:04
  they only live about two years, so let's lay off the possums
• 1:09:08
  anyway, so. North America's only marsupial.
• 1:09:14
  Yeah, and they're. So cute marsupial lives outside
• 1:09:17
  of Australasia. It's because they look like
• 1:09:20
  Badgers but they have rat tails and everyone gets freaked out by
• 1:09:23
  the tail. I think I should do my own
• 1:09:28
  wildlife podcast and put it up because I just love this.
• 1:09:32
  Because now why all I want to do is talk about animals.
• 1:09:35
  Yeah, I love it Like we can do. I have loads of little we can.
• 1:09:37
  Do an episode on wildlife because it is a lack of focus,
• 1:09:41
  focus, focus. It covers all the bases.
• 1:09:43
  We can just. You can be like, what's his
• 1:09:45
  name, Don? Rickles.
• 1:09:49
  No, an Irish fella, Don Conroy. Conroy.
• 1:09:52
  Conroy. Yeah, only my expertise would be
• 1:09:55
  in weird animal facts like wombats.
• 1:09:58
  Poop square. I know that's the cutest thing
• 1:10:01
  ever anyway. Dead people in Russia?
• 1:10:03
  Oh yeah, shit. So square shit.
• 1:10:06
  Autopsies to talk about. South autopsies performed on May
• 1:10:10
  9th revealed severe injuries inconsistent with standard
• 1:10:13
  hypothermia cases. Lumila Dubenina.
• 1:10:17
  Her chest had been crushed. Ribs 2 through 5 on the right
• 1:10:21
  and two through 7 on the left were fractured along 2 separate
• 1:10:25
  lines. There was massive bleeding into
• 1:10:28
  the right heart chamber and internal hemorrhaging in the
• 1:10:32
  chest cavity. Her tongue and eyes were gone.
• 1:10:37
  This is where I get freaked the fuck out here.
• 1:10:40
  Soft tissue around her brow, left temple and upper lip was
• 1:10:44
  stripped away and her nose cartilage was flattened and
• 1:10:48
  broken. She survived the initial trauma
• 1:10:51
  by 10 to 20 minutes and may have been conscious when her fucking
• 1:10:55
  tongue was being cut out. Potentially.
• 1:10:58
  So Semyon, his right side was devastated. 5 ribs were snapped
• 1:11:04
  and two more fractures were on his left left.
• 1:11:07
  His rib cage suffered what's called flail chest, which is the
• 1:11:11
  loss of ability to hold its shape.
• 1:11:15
  A gaping wound on his right skull left, the bone visible.
• 1:11:19
  His eyes were also missing. A camera hung around his neck, a
• 1:11:24
  second camera distinct from the 1:00 left in the tent.
• 1:11:28
  He was found gripping a pen in one hand on a small notepad in
• 1:11:33
  the other. Searcher Vladimir Askinazi
• 1:11:37
  recalled. Colonel or Tikkov or whatever
• 1:11:40
  or. Or Dukov.
• 1:11:42
  Or Dukov snatching the notepad saying he's written nothing, but
• 1:11:48
  that notepad disappeared and was never entered into the case
• 1:11:52
  file. Nothing suspicious at all about
• 1:11:55
  that. Nothing to see here.
• 1:11:57
  He's written nothing. He's written nothing and then
• 1:12:00
  just yeah, never, never seen or heard from again.
• 1:12:03
  Which why are you're holding a pen in a pad?
• 1:12:06
  What's like, what stopped you like and what did you want to
• 1:12:11
  write? You wanted to write something
• 1:12:13
  like, I mean, if I'm like, if I'm running for my fucking life
• 1:12:17
  and I get a minute to sit and like write something, I don't
• 1:12:22
  know, it's that that freaks me. Out.
• 1:12:23
  It seems to be like an important piece of evidence that he was
• 1:12:26
  trying to create, yeah. Because it's, it's not like
• 1:12:28
  you're like, you know, oh, my last memory, tell, you know,
• 1:12:32
  tell my wife and kids I love them.
• 1:12:33
  It's not, it's not going to be anything like that.
• 1:12:35
  It's urgent enough to be like, they're fucking like monsters in
• 1:12:39
  these mountains or like there's, there's something, something
• 1:12:42
  fucking weird. So Nikolai, then.
• 1:12:45
  His skull had been shattered by a deep, splintered fracture
• 1:12:49
  running across both the top and the base.
• 1:12:52
  Fragments of bone had been driven into his brain.
• 1:12:55
  The forensic examiner compared the force required to being hit
• 1:13:00
  by a car. You can tell I'm loving this,
• 1:13:03
  can't you? Like, oh like.
• 1:13:04
  Yeah, we're in the gruesome bits.
• 1:13:06
  Yeah, we're in the gruesome bit. And you're just like, yes.
• 1:13:08
  Like fucking my hostile ass Alexander Kolevitov.
• 1:13:14
  By contrast, he had almost no significant trauma.
• 1:13:17
  There were minor scrapes on his hands and face.
• 1:13:20
  His neck was bent at an angle, likely post mortem settling.
• 1:13:26
  He died of hypothermia. He was found sitting close to
• 1:13:29
  zolotaria, positioned as if the latter was carrying or
• 1:13:33
  protecting him. The medical examiner under
• 1:13:37
  interrogation on May 28th, 1959, stated that the rib fractures
• 1:13:41
  occurred while the victims were still alive, caused by the
• 1:13:45
  action of a large force. He added that injuries appearing
• 1:13:50
  in such a way without any damage to the soft tissue of the chest
• 1:13:53
  are very similar to the type of trauma that results from the
• 1:13:56
  shockwave of a bomb. Regarding the missing tissue,
• 1:14:00
  the eyes and tongue, the official explanation point to
• 1:14:04
  simple composition. After three months in running
• 1:14:07
  water, running water being submerged and that for that's
• 1:14:11
  going to do horrible things to your body.
• 1:14:13
  But morgue pictures show that the damage around Dubanina's
• 1:14:18
  mouth and nose lacked the ragged look expected from predators or
• 1:14:23
  scavengers. The destruction looked precise.
• 1:14:26
  Her stomach held roughly 100 grams of dark brown matter,
• 1:14:30
  often misidentified as coagulated blood, which some
• 1:14:34
  researchers use as evidence that her heart was still beating when
• 1:14:38
  her tongue was removed. Just so you were going to, you
• 1:14:40
  were going to say something. I just again just talking about
• 1:14:45
  like why the eyes and and stuff would have been missing.
• 1:14:49
  Why do you think because it's been ruled out that it's
• 1:14:52
  animals? I don't think, I don't think it
• 1:14:54
  has been ruled out that it's animals.
• 1:14:55
  I think. I think that I think.
• 1:14:57
  They're just saying it is. Yeah, I think what you've
• 1:14:59
  written here has ruled out that it's animals.
• 1:15:03
  Like, there's a lot. Because it didn't.
• 1:15:04
  Contradictory evidence about a lot of these things like so like
• 1:15:08
  some people, like when you say like this person says it could
• 1:15:12
  be from a bomb. Someone else said it looks like
• 1:15:15
  they were hit by a truck, which obviously isn't what would have
• 1:15:18
  happened, but it was like trauma that would have been, uh, to
• 1:15:21
  that like to the extent of a small truck.
• 1:15:24
  Like. So like all of this kind of
• 1:15:26
  comes together, like there's different people saying kind of
• 1:15:29
  different things, whereas like to decompose for your eyeballs
• 1:15:34
  and your tongue to have decomposed within, but they
• 1:15:37
  were. Removed.
• 1:15:38
  Yes, that again, this is this is what has been stated by
• 1:15:44
  different people say different things.
• 1:15:45
  So the tongue was removed and or like and here's here's what I
• 1:15:50
  would say. If the tongue looks like it was
• 1:15:52
  removed, I would say it could quite possibly be that she bit
• 1:15:55
  her own tongue off while something.
• 1:15:58
  Like seizure and stuff. As well to see like just act
• 1:16:02
  like trauma hits and fucking your like face gets bet into
• 1:16:08
  something like I would say her she could have bit her tongue
• 1:16:11
  off while whatever hit her hit her.
• 1:16:14
  You get what I'm saying? There so like the the four of
• 1:16:16
  these, they were found at the bottom of a ravine.
• 1:16:18
  So like if they fell from a great height and they like
• 1:16:21
  smacked everything on the way down, it would be quite
• 1:16:24
  consistent with all of the injuries.
• 1:16:27
  There is an issue with that though.
• 1:16:28
  So that ravine is only I believe like 9 foot.
• 1:16:33
  Oh. Which, yes, so they said if they
• 1:16:36
  were to have sustained injuries from a fall, the fall would have
• 1:16:40
  to been from about 65 foot, I think they were saying.
• 1:16:44
  So like it would have had to been, yeah, it would have had to
• 1:16:46
  have been a lot bigger, like, so like again, the ravine down into
• 1:16:51
  this river is not as big as like again, I'm nine.
• 1:16:57
  Four is why it seems. Like you were hit by a truck.
• 1:16:59
  Yeah, yeah. Again, like they would have had
• 1:17:01
  to have fallen like 65 foot before they would have been able
• 1:17:05
  to get injuries to this extent. Look, don't get me wrong, it all
• 1:17:08
  is weird. And I'm the first person that
• 1:17:10
  will be like, let's find the weird thing.
• 1:17:13
  But I just think that like jumping to the straightaway, it
• 1:17:16
  couldn't have been animals or it couldn't have been this or it
• 1:17:19
  couldn't have been that. There's so much stuff that it
• 1:17:21
  could have been that I don't think we can rule out like
• 1:17:24
  animals. And again, we're looking at
• 1:17:25
  like. The autopsy was basically it's
• 1:17:27
  unlikely to have. Been predators to stop again
• 1:17:31
  like there's guys pulling no pads away they're, you know,
• 1:17:35
  like there's people saying different things yeah.
• 1:17:38
  So like I get like all I'm saying is let's not rule all of
• 1:17:42
  this. She was.
• 1:17:43
  Alive either way when it when it happened?
• 1:17:46
  Apparently so. The criminal investigation was
• 1:17:48
  led by prosecutor Lev Ivanov and the Sverdlovsk Regional
• 1:17:53
  Prosecutor's Office. He opened the inquest as soon as
• 1:17:56
  the first bodies were found. The case drew unusual attention
• 1:18:00
  from above. Ivanov superior Evgeny Oka chef,
• 1:18:04
  later noted that NI Klinov, head of the Having a bad time with
• 1:18:11
  you guys, too many scouts. I know Prosecutor's office
• 1:18:15
  personally attended the initial autopsies in Ivdel and stayed
• 1:18:19
  for three days, an unprecedented event in Ogashef's experience.
• 1:18:25
  Furthermore, AF yes Token, second secretary of the regional
• 1:18:30
  party committee stepped in and took control.
• 1:18:32
  The party was watching. So ocean as you said, high UPS
• 1:18:37
  mean like bad things. Yeah, because like they, I think
• 1:18:40
  like these guys got involved because when it was escalated up
• 1:18:44
  the chain so that someone would actually start a search party,
• 1:18:48
  it would have kind of gone around the houses with them that
• 1:18:50
  like, hey, look, you know this like, you know, the outdoor
• 1:18:54
  pursuits and hiking, you know, this thing that we're promoting
• 1:18:57
  and we're like saying is something that like lots of
• 1:18:58
  different people should be doing.
• 1:19:01
  We've had an incident and it seems to be quite bad.
• 1:19:03
  So it'll be a lot of them kind of looking at going, OK, we want
• 1:19:05
  to make sure that this isn't something that we need to worry
• 1:19:08
  about for longer than we need to worry about it.
• 1:19:10
  So the Mansi theory. Initially, investigators pursued
• 1:19:15
  an attack by the Mansi people. A Mansi shelter had been found
• 1:19:19
  North East of the campsite and a Mansi trail ran nearby.
• 1:19:22
  Several young Mansi hunters were arrested in March 1959 and
• 1:19:26
  interrogated. Investigator Vladimir Khratev
• 1:19:29
  later alleged the suspects were tortured during questioning
• 1:19:35
  under pressure. Gregory Kuryakov told
• 1:19:37
  investigators that the Mansi had no sacred sites near Dead
• 1:19:42
  Mountain. The theory quickly collapsed.
• 1:19:44
  Only the hikers footprints were found at the tent and there were
• 1:19:47
  no signs of a fight. Valuables, cameras and alcohol
• 1:19:50
  were left untouched. The Mansi themselves had joined
• 1:19:53
  the search from the beginning. Finally, the autopsy's results
• 1:19:56
  on the final four bodies in indicated trauma no human could
• 1:20:00
  inflict. So that's the thing with the
• 1:20:03
  with the the Mansi stuff is like this.
• 1:20:05
  This straight away went to all the Mansys are getting offended
• 1:20:09
  because like again, you would you would straight away be like
• 1:20:13
  these savages hold this mountain sacred is what is what they
• 1:20:17
  would be like. So like we we've got to go like
• 1:20:21
  the easiest route here is this is Occam's razor is like if you
• 1:20:25
  see a bunch of Russians dead on a mountain that these people
• 1:20:29
  hold sacred, it's these people that kill them.
• 1:20:31
  But then when they realize, like there's not sacred about that
• 1:20:34
  mountain. It's a mountain.
• 1:20:35
  That's the what they what way they describe that was like we
• 1:20:38
  see that as a mountain. There's nothing sacred about it.
• 1:20:42
  It's just where we live. And yeah, again, yeah, all the
• 1:20:45
  evidence kind of goes towards that these people were actually
• 1:20:49
  helping them rather than like, you know, they were just a
• 1:20:53
  friendly bunch of people. They didn't even have to.
• 1:20:55
  They weren't trying to hide it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:57
  They didn't. They didn't have to like the
• 1:20:59
  fact that they knew the mountain better than anybody else.
• 1:21:02
  It was actually them that helped them find their way to finding
• 1:21:06
  the bodies. So like it's just straight away,
• 1:21:10
  again, I don't want to sound like I'm touched with the walk
• 1:21:14
  mind virus, but like these white, these white people
• 1:21:18
  getting indigenous people and be like, got to be them, got to be
• 1:21:21
  them. So on May 18th, 1959, Ivanov
• 1:21:26
  ordered radiation testing on the clothing of the Final Four.
• 1:21:29
  Chief radiologist Leveshoff ran the analysis with alarming
• 1:21:34
  results. Dumanina's brown sweater
• 1:21:37
  registered 9900 radioactive decays per minute, almost double
• 1:21:42
  the Soviet safety threshold. Which is so funny because it's
• 1:21:44
  like a safety threshold for nuclear radiation.
• 1:21:48
  Soviet safety thresholds are. Is so funny to me.
• 1:21:57
  Almost double the Soviet safety threshold.
• 1:21:59
  After washing the fabric in cold water, the count dropped to
• 1:22:02
  5200, meaning the con, meaning the contamination was
• 1:22:07
  radioactive dust on the surface. Kolotov's pants also showed
• 1:22:13
  elevated readings. Ivanoff noted that the readings
• 1:22:16
  at the time of death would have been far higher, as the remains
• 1:22:19
  had been intensively washed by melting water.
• 1:22:23
  However, a possible explanation exists.
• 1:22:25
  Grievanchenko had worked at the Mayak nuclear complex and
• 1:22:30
  participated in the cleanup of the Christian disaster.
• 1:22:34
  Kolatev had spent time at the Stop making me do words, and you
• 1:22:40
  wrote this? I mean, shell evens 40 and
• 1:22:47
  Kolomgrova came from a village within the contamination zone.
• 1:22:52
  Physicist Igor Pavlov later concluded that the contamination
• 1:22:56
  was consistent with MIAC dust receiving it before the trip.
• 1:23:02
  A specialist told Ivanov that the results were meaningless.
• 1:23:05
  Again, this is like Soviet radio, you know, radiation
• 1:23:09
  experts where they're just like, oh, yeah, he was working in a
• 1:23:12
  factory. Like, you know, that's like the
• 1:23:13
  normal radiation levels that we'd expect from someone.
• 1:23:16
  It is meaningless. So it's just like, yeah, you
• 1:23:18
  are, you are radioactive and. Everybody is radioactive.
• 1:23:22
  Yeah, exactly. Everybody.
• 1:23:23
  Not a big deal. And it's just like, yeah, that
• 1:23:25
  is the normal amount. And it's just like straight
• 1:23:27
  away, they're just like, no, no, no, it's not that.
• 1:23:29
  That's normal. But it's such a, we could go
• 1:23:33
  down to roads here. Well, you can go down three
• 1:23:35
  roads. He's the the one being like,
• 1:23:38
  that's the truth. It's fine.
• 1:23:41
  Number 2 is they're inept and they were like, ah, they were
• 1:23:48
  afraid of being like, I'm not Everything's fine.
• 1:23:50
  The radiation is normal because we're Russian and we're always
• 1:23:53
  playing around with radioactive shit.
• 1:23:55
  It's the 50s or #3 is that we've got a cover up for something
• 1:24:00
  else. So it's we checked for
• 1:24:03
  radiation, we found a lot of radiation and now we're saying
• 1:24:06
  we didn't find a lot of radiation.
• 1:24:08
  You get me? So like.
• 1:24:10
  There's. Like there's the possibilities
• 1:24:13
  here again because it is 1959 in Russia and we're not going to
• 1:24:17
  get many answers like right now the three of us investigating it
• 1:24:21
  here, but like. What if we solve?
• 1:24:24
  It the amount of light, I don't think we're going to solve it
• 1:24:27
  here, Danny, just spoiler alert for anybody that's listening.
• 1:24:30
  And like I, I do think that like no matter what anybody says
• 1:24:35
  here, and I'm going back to like when we talk about you can't say
• 1:24:39
  what is definitive because there's so much lies in the
• 1:24:42
  Soviet Union at this time. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:24:45
  Whether it's a, whether it's a cover up or just like people
• 1:24:48
  let, as we were talking about before with a, with Chernobyl,
• 1:24:53
  just people being like, oh, there's no problem here, you
• 1:24:55
  get, I think so they won't say what the problem is because they
• 1:24:59
  don't want to report a problem. So May 28th, 1959 the case was
• 1:25:03
  officially closed, just one day after Leveshoff signed the
• 1:25:06
  radiological report in the case file.
• 1:25:09
  A draft version of the closing resolution survives, including a
• 1:25:12
  full paragraph about radioactive contamination and a note that
• 1:25:17
  quote none of them was in contact with radioactive
• 1:25:21
  substances at his work or study. The draft is crossed out with a
• 1:25:26
  blue pencil. The final public resolution
• 1:25:30
  erased the radiation entirely. The official conclusion stated
• 1:25:34
  that members of the Diatlav group died due to a compelling
• 1:25:38
  natural force that they were unable to overcome.
• 1:25:41
  No further explanation was offered.
• 1:25:44
  Deputy Prosecutor General Yorokov flew in from Moscow to
• 1:25:48
  personally shut the case down. The files were locked away in a
• 1:25:51
  classified archive and the mountain pass was declared off
• 1:25:55
  limits for three years. See, like all of that just
• 1:26:00
  points to like some crazy cover up.
• 1:26:02
  Yeah, like, you know, guy comes in from Russia from like, you
• 1:26:05
  know, high-ranking guy comes in from Moscow and it's just like
• 1:26:09
  no problem. Radiation, that's not an issue
• 1:26:12
  was exposed. Not talking about that anymore.
• 1:26:14
  It's all shut down. Oh, and by the way, no one can
• 1:26:16
  go there for three years. So we'll have like 3 years of
• 1:26:19
  like, you know, snow freeze and tall, which would just
• 1:26:23
  absolutely destroy any like potential evidence of anything
• 1:26:27
  that could be up there. So I like playing devil's
• 1:26:29
  advocate with stuff like like obviously when you heard me
• 1:26:32
  before. But the further you get like
• 1:26:34
  when when it gets to like Russian hierarchy coming in,
• 1:26:39
  that's when you can kinda you can't play a devil's advocate
• 1:26:43
  anymore because straight away you go, oh, well, then something
• 1:26:47
  was fucked. Like something like nobody's
• 1:26:49
  nobody's coming in here making it look like a cover up if there
• 1:26:52
  was nothing to cover up. Yeah, with Yeah, this is yeah.
• 1:26:58
  Like, like there's, there's something going on here again,
• 1:27:01
  like we can it's. Really odd.
• 1:27:03
  Yeah, like. Again, like the easy explanation
• 1:27:05
  for all of this and like what they they call the official
• 1:27:08
  explanation is that there was an avalanche, eh, it was a slab
• 1:27:12
  avalanche, eh? So when it hits, it hits hard.
• 1:27:15
  So like those people got hit, older people went out searching
• 1:27:19
  for them, eh, or I didn't go out searching for them.
• 1:27:21
  They all like leg this. A couple of people got hit hard
• 1:27:24
  and got sent down into this ravine and then the rest of the
• 1:27:27
  people were outdated of hypothermia out looking for them
• 1:27:29
  in their socks and jocks and yeah, eh, animals came nums NUM
• 1:27:34
  nums on their eyeballs and their their tongue and their
• 1:27:39
  radiation. What the radiation they, they
• 1:27:41
  worked in, Yeah, they, they worked in a, a nuclear power
• 1:27:45
  plant. So that's why there was a small
• 1:27:48
  bit of radiation. And now nobody else ask any
• 1:27:51
  questions. The guy who was investigating
• 1:27:54
  the, them the murders like, so the guy who was doing the
• 1:27:58
  autopsy, he was only investigating murders.
• 1:28:01
  So he shut down his investigation straight away
• 1:28:04
  after he discovered that like they didn't kill each other or
• 1:28:07
  the mansi didn't kill each other or didn't kill them.
• 1:28:09
  He was like, OK, I'm shutting this down.
• 1:28:11
  People were like. Yeah, done now, Yeah.
• 1:28:12
  So, so people were like, no, you can't shut down.
• 1:28:14
  We we still haven't found out what killed them.
• 1:28:16
  And he said it doesn't matter what killed them to me.
• 1:28:18
  I just know humans didn't kill them.
• 1:28:20
  So it's not murder. So my investigation is done.
• 1:28:23
  And then the next guys that come in to investigate are the guys
• 1:28:26
  that walk in, go nothing to see here.
• 1:28:28
  Let's put tape around this and no one else can come here.
• 1:28:31
  It's suspicious. Yeah, so reports exist regarding
• 1:28:36
  the unusual physical state of the bodies.
• 1:28:39
  Yuri Kuncevic, cool fucking name by the way, who attended 5 of
• 1:28:44
  the funerals as a 12 year old. Remember their skin as having a
• 1:28:48
  deep brown tan? Search team member Sergei Sorgon
• 1:28:53
  described the colour as yellow, not orange.
• 1:28:56
  While discoloration is documented in Death by Extreme
• 1:28:59
  Cold, relatives also describe the hikers as having gone
• 1:29:04
  completely Gray. Trikina, examining the Final
• 1:29:08
  Fours clothes, noted they had some strange light purple hue,
• 1:29:12
  although their natural colors were different.
• 1:29:16
  I asked Boris, the medical examiner, don't you think the
• 1:29:19
  clothes are processed with something?
• 1:29:21
  And he agreed. The fact that they had open
• 1:29:24
  caskets though is baffling to me.
• 1:29:27
  So like you had like all apparently all nine had open
• 1:29:31
  casket funerals which is fucking.
• 1:29:35
  There's people missing their fucking eyeballs here.
• 1:29:38
  Close them up. Yeah.
• 1:29:40
  But this is proper like, you know, kind of urban legend where
• 1:29:43
  it's just like, Oh yeah, like their, their skin was like
• 1:29:45
  really tanned and their hair had gone white and their clothes
• 1:29:50
  were glowing purple like. And they had twist powers and
• 1:29:54
  one of the one of the heads looked at me, but like, it's,
• 1:29:56
  it's like it's boy everybody. Had looked at you get me the
• 1:30:03
  secret police. Get me the KGB.
• 1:30:06
  But every, every one of them are saying like, like I saw purple
• 1:30:12
  skin, I saw yellow skin, I saw Gray skin.
• 1:30:15
  It's like, okay, yeah, right. Who do we believe here then, you
• 1:30:18
  fucking rooskies? Yeah, so a separate group of
• 1:30:22
  hikers camping 50 kilometers S reported seeing strange orange
• 1:30:26
  spheres drifting across the sky at the night of the Diatlov
• 1:30:31
  group died. Similar objects were spotted
• 1:30:33
  over the following weeks by soldiers and meteorologists.
• 1:30:37
  Search party member Vladislav Carolyn described A fireball
• 1:30:41
  moving like a missile. A local newspaper, The Tagil
• 1:30:45
  Worker, printed a report about the fireballs while the hikers
• 1:30:49
  were still on their trek. The editor got in trouble for
• 1:30:52
  running the story. Now, none of these sightings
• 1:30:56
  were included in the 1959 investigation.
• 1:31:00
  Years later, Lev Ivanov admitted to muzzling the evidence, saying
• 1:31:05
  I did it myself. I withdrew the radiation test
• 1:31:09
  report. I was told to remove everything
• 1:31:11
  that is irrelevant. In 1990, after 31 years of
• 1:31:16
  silence, Ivanoff published an article stating his true belief.
• 1:31:20
  I stuck to the version of the death of the student hikers from
• 1:31:23
  exposure to an unknown flying object.
• 1:31:27
  Based on the evidence gathered, the role of UFOs in this tragedy
• 1:31:31
  was quite obvious. He claimed that when he reported
• 1:31:35
  his findings, Yoshtokan ordered him to classify and forget
• 1:31:40
  everything. Yeah.
• 1:31:45
  Aliens it has to be. That's what.
• 1:31:48
  I was. I'm going to, I'm going to go
• 1:31:50
  through the theories now. I'll run through these really
• 1:31:53
  quickly, but I I think it's quite clear.
• 1:31:59
  I think we all know it was aliens.
• 1:32:03
  So the first theory is the avalanche theory in February
• 1:32:06
  2019. Russian.
• 1:32:08
  Russian. Russian.
• 1:32:10
  Russian burn coercion authorities reopened the case,
• 1:32:15
  strictly examining only three natural causes, an avalanche,
• 1:32:19
  slab avalanche or a hurricane. A crime was completely ruled
• 1:32:24
  out. On July 11th, 2020, Audrey
• 1:32:28
  Kirikov, representing the Prosecutor General's Office,
• 1:32:31
  announced the avalanche conclusion.
• 1:32:34
  It was a heroic struggle. There was no panic, but in those
• 1:32:37
  circ circumstances they had no chance of escaping their
• 1:32:42
  reconstruction. A slab of snow broke loose above
• 1:32:45
  the tent. The hikers heard it coming, cut
• 1:32:48
  the canvas and climbed downhill. The wind collapsed what was left
• 1:32:52
  of the tent. They made it to the cedar and
• 1:32:54
  started a fire. 4 removed to the ravine, dug a platform of
• 1:32:58
  branches and triggered a second collapse that buried them under
• 1:33:03
  3 meters of snow, crushing their chests and skulls.
• 1:33:07
  In 2021, researchers using scientific models based on
• 1:33:11
  weather data and snow simulation code, notably code developed for
• 1:33:16
  Disney's Frozen, showed that a small but lethal slab I know
• 1:33:21
  slab avalanche was plausible triggered hours later by the
• 1:33:25
  hikers cuts into the hillside combined with wind loading.
• 1:33:30
  But here are the flaws. Searchers found no debris field
• 1:33:34
  or displaced snow typical of an avalanche.
• 1:33:36
  The skis standing upright near the tent were undisturbed.
• 1:33:40
  The slope angle, 28°, is lower than typical slab avalanche
• 1:33:44
  terrain. Experienced hikers like Yatlov
• 1:33:47
  would likely have recognized avalanche prone terrain.
• 1:33:50
  The footprints show people walking in an orderly line, not
• 1:33:54
  running. The theory does not explain the
• 1:33:57
  radiation, missing tissue or lights in the sky.
• 1:34:00
  Yeah, just for for the avalanche thing, they're like it it all is
• 1:34:05
  like when they put it out piece by piece there you kind of go,
• 1:34:08
  Oh yeah, that is the most plausible thing.
• 1:34:10
  Like people like were, yeah, like an avalanche came.
• 1:34:13
  So they got out of the tents in fear that they were going to get
• 1:34:16
  covered in snow. Then they walked whatever like.
• 1:34:20
  But then when they go through what it would take to make that
• 1:34:25
  set of circumstances actually happen, yeah, you've got some
• 1:34:28
  fucking tough dominoes to make fall for it all to kind of.
• 1:34:32
  Line up and so then we have the catabolic.
• 1:34:37
  Calabolic wins. UMM theory suggests sudden high
• 1:34:41
  speed cold winds rolled downhill in the Urals.
• 1:34:44
  These can reach hurricane force. The 2019 review confirmed
• 1:34:49
  extreme conditions that night. The theory holds that the wind
• 1:34:52
  made the tent uninhabitable, forcing emergency evacuation.
• 1:34:57
  But the flaw it does not explain why they cut their way out
• 1:35:01
  instead of using the entrance. And winds alone do not produce
• 1:35:04
  targeted, crushing internal fractures without marking the
• 1:35:09
  skin. Then we have infrasound, uh
• 1:35:12
  proposed by American filmmaker Donnie Eicher.
• 1:35:16
  This suggests that the wind flowing over the Dome summit
• 1:35:20
  generated uh, Karman vortex streets alternating spiral
• 1:35:26
  vortices producing infrasound. Studies show infrasound exposure
• 1:35:32
  can cause anxiety, fear, or difficulty breathing.
• 1:35:35
  Eicher proposed that infrasound cause overwhelming panic,
• 1:35:39
  driving the hikers to cut their way out and flee.
• 1:35:42
  The flaw infrasound doesn't explain the crushing injuries.
• 1:35:47
  Furthermore, acoustic scientists are not certain infrasound
• 1:35:51
  exposure causes extreme panic, and no documented case exists of
• 1:35:55
  a human killed by infrasound or experiencing the level of panic
• 1:36:00
  required to abandon shelter. That's another one that is like
• 1:36:04
  super, like, you know, you have to have the absolute perfect
• 1:36:06
  conditions in order to like, have this option be plausible.
• 1:36:11
  And it's like, look, it is, you know, it is a possibility.
• 1:36:13
  But like they did conclude that like they don't even know if
• 1:36:16
  infrasound can cause the conditions or cause the, the,
• 1:36:20
  the panic and the anxiety that may have led to them abandoning
• 1:36:25
  their their tent. You know, it's, it's, yeah, I
• 1:36:28
  think this one, like, really doesn't hold much water.
• 1:36:30
  Yeah, they, they have like these towns that they talk about with
• 1:36:34
  this home and it is infrasound, but people, people who live in
• 1:36:39
  these places, nobody is like running around in their jocks
• 1:36:46
  because it's like, again, there is people that say like they
• 1:36:49
  feel sick, they feel anxious all the time and they don't feel
• 1:36:52
  well because of it. But there was no like there's no
• 1:36:55
  panic unless this was something that like, again, like what
• 1:36:59
  you're saying, Oh, she, it doesn't hold water with me
• 1:37:01
  either. But like to play devil's
• 1:37:04
  advocate again, it's like if this was something that was
• 1:37:07
  brand new to them and they didn't understand what was
• 1:37:09
  happening to their body, they might have up and leg that.
• 1:37:14
  But I would say that this is like a 0.001% chance for me.
• 1:37:20
  That infrasound is the reason why they left that 10th.
• 1:37:24
  Yeah. We have paradoxical undressing.
• 1:37:28
  This is a physiological phenomenon occurring in 20% to
• 1:37:33
  50% of hypothermia deaths. As the body shuts down, the
• 1:37:37
  brain misfires, creating a false sensation of burning heat,
• 1:37:40
  causing victims to strip off their clothes.
• 1:37:43
  This explains why Doroshenko and Kurevenoshenko were found nearly
• 1:37:47
  naked at the cedar with the flaws.
• 1:37:50
  Evidence shows survivors deliberately removing clothing
• 1:37:53
  from the already deceased to stay alive.
• 1:37:56
  This points to calculated survival attempts, not
• 1:37:59
  confusion. Paradoxical undressing doesn't
• 1:38:02
  explain the initial fleeing of the tent or the crushing
• 1:38:06
  injuries. So like, a plausible thing here
• 1:38:09
  is that a couple of them had this kind of hypoxia where they
• 1:38:13
  would then strip off naked and they went off running and they
• 1:38:16
  went off running. And then the guys who weren't
• 1:38:20
  suffering from it were just like, oh, shit, we better go get
• 1:38:22
  them. Maybe they didn't feel like they
• 1:38:23
  had enough time to get dressed in order to go and catch them in
• 1:38:26
  time. But with being -40 and being
• 1:38:30
  practically naked like that cold will just get into you, like
• 1:38:32
  exceptionally quick. So like it is quite possible
• 1:38:36
  that like they went to try and save their friends, were very
• 1:38:39
  unsuccessful ads and then tried to like, you know, like, you
• 1:38:44
  know, take their clothes, but then realize, shit, we're too
• 1:38:47
  far away. We need to light a fire quick.
• 1:38:48
  And maybe then that, you know, like it kind of set in with them
• 1:38:51
  and that's how they ended up down there.
• 1:38:53
  Yeah, yeah, I would say that like, this is really plausible
• 1:38:56
  that it actually did happen to like.
• 1:38:59
  But again, this isn't that like, you know what, two things can
• 1:39:03
  happen. Like they can be attacked by a
• 1:39:06
  fucking bald eagle and also have had hypothermia and took their
• 1:39:11
  clothes off. You know what I mean?
• 1:39:12
  Like, So what if for people to be like, oh, this is this
• 1:39:16
  couldn't be the reason that they died, this paradoxical
• 1:39:20
  undressing. Yeah, but like I.
• 1:39:22
  Mean, yeah. But two things can happen.
• 1:39:24
  You know what I mean? It could be one of like, it
• 1:39:27
  could be one of the other things that we have on the list here
• 1:39:30
  and also they were stripping off because they were fucking
• 1:39:34
  hypothermic. Yeah, and then we have military
• 1:39:38
  tests. Uh, this is the prominent theory
• 1:39:40
  favoured by the hikers families. The Jiatlov campsite sat between
• 1:39:45
  the Bichner Cosmodrone and the. Chernaya.
• 1:39:51
  Chernaya guba or Juba guba? I was like asking scuba nuclear
• 1:39:59
  testing ground 2019 investigation confirmed rocket
• 1:40:02
  launches from the Kapushton Yard training range during the
• 1:40:07
  expedition through the launch site was deemed though the
• 1:40:11
  launch site was deemed not visible from the past the
• 1:40:15
  glowing spear OK. The glowing spheres have been
• 1:40:19
  attributed to or seven intercontinental missile debris.
• 1:40:23
  One specific version focuses on parachute mines designed to
• 1:40:28
  detonate in midair, producing massive internal trauma with
• 1:40:32
  minimal surface damage. Matching the autopsy findings
• 1:40:36
  exactly, records indicate the Soviet military tested parachute
• 1:40:41
  mines in that mountain range during that period.
• 1:40:44
  Flaw here. No declassified documents
• 1:40:47
  confirm military activity at that specific location on that
• 1:40:51
  specific night. Why would they though?
• 1:40:53
  Well, they don't, they don't declassify many documents in,
• 1:40:57
  you know, from like Soviet times and they don't declassify like
• 1:41:00
  modern documents either. So yeah, you know, it's, it's
• 1:41:03
  that thing where they can't confirm or deny.
• 1:41:05
  And like, this one is, you know, they're like, Oh yeah, we know
• 1:41:08
  that they were testing weaponry in this mountain.
• 1:41:11
  And it's like, what? Were they just like, fucking up
• 1:41:13
  all of the like, the indigenous people as well, you know?
• 1:41:17
  But there's not many reports on this.
• 1:41:19
  So then we have espionage. This theory focuses on Sasha.
• 1:41:24
  At 37, he was much older than the others.
• 1:41:27
  He was a World War 2 veteran and used a name that wasn't his,
• 1:41:31
  carried mysterious tattoos the group didn't know about, and
• 1:41:34
  switched expeditions 3 days before the departure for
• 1:41:38
  unexplained reasons. Like, literally, he had just
• 1:41:40
  said because it was longer and I guess he wanted to be out there
• 1:41:44
  longer. Yeah.
• 1:41:45
  He'd also spent time in learning a closed city due to uranium
• 1:41:50
  mining. Despite his brother's wartime
• 1:41:54
  collaboration with the Germans, Sasha was never expelled from
• 1:41:57
  the party. The theory proposes that
• 1:42:01
  Zolotrov and possibly Kryvanchenko, given his nuclear
• 1:42:05
  work, he worked in IT. So he was in College in the same
• 1:42:10
  university as the students, but he did also work in a nuclear
• 1:42:13
  plant at this time, which again would have explained a little
• 1:42:18
  bit of the radiation on his clothing, but not to the extent
• 1:42:23
  that was found. Basically it could point to a
• 1:42:27
  controlled delivery or handoff of nuclear materials.
• 1:42:31
  Details like the second camera Sasha fled with and notepad that
• 1:42:35
  Colonel seized the false name and the separation from the main
• 1:42:39
  group for burial support this. In 2018 Sasha's body was
• 1:42:45
  exhumed. No burial record for him
• 1:42:48
  existed, and Sverdlovsk, while a skull facial analysis matched
• 1:42:53
  initial DNA tests, found no genetic It's a connection to his
• 1:42:57
  niece, though a second standard test came back.
• 1:43:01
  Positive. Yeah.
• 1:43:02
  Just a lot of mystery behind this dude.
• 1:43:04
  Yeah, yeah, he's just like a weird guy and like they're.
• 1:43:08
  Going to happen with yeah, but like this thing.
• 1:43:10
  Where it's like 1 DNA theory was like Oh no, no relation.
• 1:43:13
  And then the second one, Oh no, they're actually related.
• 1:43:16
  Like, it's just like with him, there's just like, I think it's
• 1:43:19
  that people want him to be like the center of some conspiracy.
• 1:43:24
  So it's like, Oh yeah, let's dig him up.
• 1:43:26
  Let's do a skull analysis. He's the easiest person to kind
• 1:43:30
  of hone in on. Like he was the outsider that
• 1:43:33
  yeah, so the last last year I have and then we'll get into the
• 1:43:37
  conclusion. But we have a Yeti.
• 1:43:41
  That's it, that that's it. That's what was.
• 1:43:44
  I love yeah, he comes in. I would know where at the end
• 1:43:48
  it's like, yeah, it's like you're watching a marathon and
• 1:43:52
  you're like, who's going to win the marathon?
• 1:43:53
  And like at the second, yeah, he just runs past everybody and
• 1:43:56
  just gets past the line, which. I would love I would love a Yeti
• 1:44:01
  to be real. I really would.
• 1:44:02
  So this would be like my favorite theory Yeti got a.
• 1:44:05
  Funny thing I've seen this that they were making jokes about the
• 1:44:10
  snowman and stuff before in this newspaper but they took a
• 1:44:13
  picture. Yeah, that's what you were
• 1:44:15
  saying when you were like. Did you see this now I don't
• 1:44:20
  know what if it's a hoax or what, but like apparently they
• 1:44:24
  took a picture. I'm one of these pictures to
• 1:44:27
  have like a Yeti looking thing kind of in the background.
• 1:44:31
  Now again, this holds no water with anybody.
• 1:44:34
  No one believes that this is an actual thing like that.
• 1:44:36
  This is the Yeti that they they have a picture of, but it's
• 1:44:40
  just, it's funny that this kind of seems that they're making
• 1:44:44
  jokes about that they're going on an adventure to find the Yeti
• 1:44:48
  and then they all end up dead and torn to bits and smashed up.
• 1:44:53
  And yeah, I don't think it was the Yeti.
• 1:44:57
  I think the Yeti was watching whatever happened and he has the
• 1:45:00
  answers. I can't ever be afraid of the
• 1:45:03
  Yeti though, because I anytime we think of it is you guys have
• 1:45:06
  both seen monsters. Right.
• 1:45:08
  Yeah, perfect. Yeah, it's it's the, it's the
• 1:45:10
  best character. It's so.
• 1:45:14
  Funny. It's the funniest thing.
• 1:45:16
  And it's like, it's basically just like Mike and Sully get
• 1:45:18
  like excommunicated and they're kicked out and they're banished.
• 1:45:21
  And then in the in the snow on this like big hulking, scary
• 1:45:25
  figure walks towards him. It's like a Yeti.
• 1:45:28
  And he's like, welcome to the Himalayas.
• 1:45:30
  And he's like the best. He's just like a solid dude.
• 1:45:34
  Yeah, just sort of like make some snow cones and stuff and
• 1:45:37
  he's so good, but I can't think of a Yeti without thinking of
• 1:45:39
  him because I'm like, I can't be scared of that guy.
• 1:45:41
  Fun fact, the guy who does his voice does a voice in every
• 1:45:45
  Pixar movie. Yeah, it's a.
• 1:45:48
  Ratzinger, isn't it? Or whatever.
• 1:45:49
  Is that ratzing John Ratzer? Yeah, it's from from.
• 1:45:53
  Cheers. Yes, exactly.
• 1:45:54
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:45:55
  Isn't he like the school of fish?
• 1:45:57
  Yes, in Nemo. And he's like.
• 1:45:59
  Mack the truck, he's just he's. Mack the truck.
• 1:46:02
  Yeah, He's so funny. He's already.
• 1:46:04
  He's really. Good.
• 1:46:05
  In Toy Story, he's Yeah, yes. So yeah.
• 1:46:09
  Another guy who like has a lot of voice acting gigs is really
• 1:46:12
  funny. It's just that Billy West who
• 1:46:14
  does fry from drama and and Bender.
• 1:46:17
  He doesn't do Bender. No not he doesn't do Bender so
• 1:46:20
  he does fry, but he does like a bunch of other different.
• 1:46:23
  Character Maggie or does Bender? Yeah, Bender.
• 1:46:26
  Yeah, sorry. That's anyway.
• 1:46:28
  OK, so the Eddie. How long is that still going,
• 1:46:31
  guys? Let's talk about Futurama for an
• 1:46:33
  hour. Alex, you can, you can cut that,
• 1:46:36
  that's fine. But.
• 1:46:38
  That's the only thing I had fun listening to to put all of the
• 1:46:43
  rest of the podcast and leave the Futurama stuff in.
• 1:46:46
  We talked about Badgers. You were happy with I?
• 1:46:49
  Was quite happy. It seems like such a long time
• 1:46:51
  ago now though. Oh my God, Like we're not doing
• 1:46:58
  bats, We're not talking about aliens.
• 1:47:00
  Like and fuck I don't care. We can talk about you.
• 1:47:03
  I was going to say. It is a very me and ocean heavy
• 1:47:06
  episode because we've got Russians and death lots of.
• 1:47:09
  Russians. Like that's you're, you are left
• 1:47:12
  out here, Justine, I'm sorry. To be honest with you Danny,
• 1:47:14
  this is a very just the episode, but I feel like I can't jump in
• 1:47:18
  and talk talk for 1/2 an hour each time I want to because
• 1:47:21
  there's so much to talk about. But you could have been anyway.
• 1:47:26
  Or let me just finish it up here and we can get your points in.
• 1:47:29
  Conclusion. We have miscellaneous and
• 1:47:32
  fringe. Series 1 is a Yeti based on the
• 1:47:35
  joke in the evening or Toten newspaper.
• 1:47:39
  The second one is escaped prisoners mistaken identity by
• 1:47:43
  gulag guards on prison breakouts were reported that night.
• 1:47:46
  So they might have run into some prisoners in the mountains.
• 1:47:50
  Unlikely though because they were in the middle of fucking
• 1:47:52
  nowhere. And then we also have a theory
• 1:47:54
  of romantic jealousy so a fight within the group.
• 1:47:57
  Diaries show no friction. No human could ever deliver
• 1:48:01
  those injuries, so we don't know if it was like.
• 1:48:04
  Two of them were a couple and then broke up before yes.
• 1:48:09
  So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So what?
• 1:48:12
  Not one of the eweries, I forget which one it was.
• 1:48:15
  Well, anyways, it was that the girl who you keep calling
• 1:48:18
  blagety blag. It was her name Yanni.
• 1:48:20
  And you keep calling her by your second.
• 1:48:23
  Who cares? But like they were a couple and
• 1:48:27
  then there was apparently there was a little bit of like rowing
• 1:48:31
  before, like as the way they talk it, like we were looking at
• 1:48:35
  the newspaper and stuff like that, that they're all having
• 1:48:37
  the best crack and everything is fun.
• 1:48:39
  And but there is a little bit of weirdness because you're one is
• 1:48:45
  Diatlov's friend, but she had been going out with this.
• 1:48:50
  I think it was the other Yuri, now that I come to think of it,
• 1:48:53
  and she was going out it. Was one of the years.
• 1:48:55
  So she was, she was going out with him, but they'd broken up.
• 1:48:58
  There was a little bit of kind of like, do you guys still want
• 1:49:00
  to go on this hike because you're no longer a couple?
• 1:49:02
  And they were like, they agreed. Yeah.
• 1:49:04
  But like, you know, yeah, there was a little bit of bad blood,
• 1:49:07
  but also there was apparently, like the night before with
• 1:49:11
  Sasha, there was a little bit of contention that they were like,
• 1:49:14
  we shouldn't bring this guy along with us.
• 1:49:16
  Yeah, she didn't want him on at all.
• 1:49:17
  Exactly. She was like, I don't know this
• 1:49:18
  weird guy, I don't want him around.
• 1:49:20
  And apparently they get they all made-up and everything was fine
• 1:49:23
  afterwards. Like according to like the
• 1:49:25
  journals and stuff like that. Well, to say that like
• 1:49:27
  everything was fun and songs and dances and there was no
• 1:49:31
  contention would be like a little bit off what actually
• 1:49:35
  happened. I mean you're spending
• 1:49:36
  essentially 3 weeks with a bunch of people anyway.
• 1:49:40
  Such close quarters. It's not going to be like all
• 1:49:42
  the sunshine and roses. But what kind of a fight would
• 1:49:45
  break out that you'd be like, hey, stop touching my?
• 1:49:49
  Now I have flair ribs so. Yes, so all nine people that are
• 1:49:52
  run out of let's RIP a hole in this tent because you're fucking
• 1:49:56
  my girlfriend and. Now my tongue is gone like.
• 1:49:59
  I'm so jealous. I've got to rip your eyes out.
• 1:50:01
  Yeah, I don't. I don't think that's what
• 1:50:03
  happened. I mean, I don't know, Russian
• 1:50:04
  people fight differently, I guess.
• 1:50:06
  I don't know. Maybe it's so Yuri Uden carried
• 1:50:11
  the weight of this his decision to turn back.
• 1:50:13
  For the rest of his life, he never married or had children.
• 1:50:17
  He held on to the small teddy bear that Lumila gave him.
• 1:50:20
  Uden spent years at a magnesium plant near Perm, then moved into
• 1:50:25
  city government until he retired.
• 1:50:27
  But he kept hiking. His theories about what killed
• 1:50:31
  his friends changed. But they always aim towards
• 1:50:34
  something man made. Military testing chemicals,
• 1:50:37
  radiation or explosives. Like the families, he never
• 1:50:41
  accepted the natural cause explanation.
• 1:50:45
  In the final years he withdrew from the world.
• 1:50:49
  Yudin died on April 27th, 2013 at the age of 75.
• 1:50:54
  Heart failure. His ashes were laid to rest
• 1:50:56
  beside the seven friends he lost in Mikashvo Cemetery.
• 1:51:01
  The mountain pass was renamed in the group's honour.
• 1:51:05
  A monument stands at the cemetery.
• 1:51:07
  A memorial plaque was unveiled in Salikansk in 2016 for Yudin,
• 1:51:13
  and the University Touring Club now bears Igor Dyotlev's name.
• 1:51:17
  In conclusion, at the final unidentifiable image on
• 1:51:22
  Kripenchensko's film shows figures barely visible through
• 1:51:26
  the wind and snow on the afternoon of February 1st frame
• 1:51:30
  #34 The last exposure is completely blurred, showing only
• 1:51:34
  darkness and a bright 8 sided globe.
• 1:51:37
  Investigators dismissed it as degraded film.
• 1:51:40
  Some view it as evidence of UFOs or other fringe theories.
• 1:51:44
  Camera experts offer a duller explanation.
• 1:51:47
  The shape catches the 8 bladed aperture inside the lens.
• 1:51:51
  If the lens barrel wasn't pulled all the way out before firing,
• 1:51:55
  the result is that, shaped of a BLOB of light, the camera
• 1:51:58
  shutter was found half wound, suggesting the exposure happened
• 1:52:02
  unintentionally while someone was advancing the film.
• 1:52:06
  New researchers continue to examine the case.
• 1:52:09
  Around 75 theories exist. Every theory explains some of
• 1:52:13
  the evidence, but no theory explains all of it.
• 1:52:16
  What happened on the slope of Dead Mountain remains formally
• 1:52:20
  and functionally unsolved. Do do do do do.
• 1:52:25
  A lot of it's like unsolved, like this is, you know, the fact
• 1:52:29
  that people like feel so strongly about it is the fact
• 1:52:32
  that like, you know, the, the higher ups in the Communist
• 1:52:34
  Party turned up to like make sure that like, Oh yeah, look,
• 1:52:39
  we're going to like nip this in the boat.
• 1:52:40
  We don't want anything weird. The radiation stuff.
• 1:52:42
  It's not that they said it was like, Oh yeah, that's not the
• 1:52:45
  cause of it. It's just they didn't want
• 1:52:47
  anyone talking about the radiation.
• 1:52:49
  And it's probably because they were like, OK, if people talk
• 1:52:51
  about the radiation, maybe they'll look into like, how
• 1:52:53
  effective our plants are, like how safe our plants are.
• 1:52:55
  Yeah, why are people who work in our plants walking around with,
• 1:53:00
  like, so much radiation on their clothes?
• 1:53:03
  I bring you peace I think you love.
• 1:53:08
  Don't be a breathing. Like why are they glowing in the
• 1:53:11
  fucking dark? So the party would have just
• 1:53:13
  been like, no, no, no, there's not like the radiation's not
• 1:53:16
  important. Let's not look at that.
• 1:53:17
  And like then if people start talking about like fucking
• 1:53:19
  aliens and UFOs and yetis the party just be like, good, good.
• 1:53:24
  They're not looking at the radiation and.
• 1:53:25
  That last picture is fucking terrifying.
• 1:53:29
  Thank you Justy for. That that is so the way you're
• 1:53:33
  talking about me here is that I'm not interested in this.
• 1:53:36
  I'm very much so interested in this.
• 1:53:38
  I'm I'm I'm just not interested in knowing all of their Russian
• 1:53:43
  names. But the thing that I find so
• 1:53:47
  interesting, eh, with this is the kind of the fact that there
• 1:53:51
  is so many avenues as as ocean saying they're like the way
• 1:53:55
  they're talking about, like the radiation on the the clothes.
• 1:53:58
  That's one thing that like they're covering that up, but
• 1:54:03
  not not necessarily because that's a problem like that.
• 1:54:06
  That is what happened here. It's could be something else.
• 1:54:09
  So like there's so many different Ave. like and then we
• 1:54:12
  go into the Mansi tribe and you're like, I want to know the
• 1:54:15
  back story of these this whole fucking tribe and how they live
• 1:54:18
  in this place. They're so.
• 1:54:19
  Dangerous to know more about the man that's.
• 1:54:21
  What I'm saying so. I think that.
• 1:54:22
  I want to know more about and then we have this this picture
• 1:54:25
  that they've taken that looks like there's some Yeti or
• 1:54:28
  whatever it is. It could just be Sasha off
• 1:54:30
  taking a piss or whatever it is. But like but like I want to know
• 1:54:35
  more about this picture. These guys seen lights in the
• 1:54:37
  sky and the aliens. It was like, again, to look at
• 1:54:42
  it in a logical view. Like in Russia, there's a shit
• 1:54:45
  load of meteors that fall because like up there in the
• 1:54:49
  rural Urals and you've got you've got say that 10 times
• 1:54:54
  fast, but like you've, you've got no light pollution.
• 1:54:58
  So when you see the night sky, you're seeing like, what are
• 1:55:02
  fireballs in the night sky? But really like, could they just
• 1:55:06
  be meteorites and and stuff like that?
• 1:55:08
  Like again, what is name of that for?
• 1:55:11
  Do you guys know that massive meteorite that hit and it just
• 1:55:15
  like knocked down every tree and it happened in Russia?
• 1:55:18
  It was the fucking name of it. Is is absolutely jumping out of
• 1:55:22
  my brain right now. It is the Tunguska.
• 1:55:25
  Event, Yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:55:27
  So. That was in I was in like 1908.
• 1:55:30
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, so again. There is a bunch of.
• 1:55:33
  Yeah, like it's, it's, it's just what I'm saying is it's not
• 1:55:36
  unusual for lights to be in the sky in like the middle of
• 1:55:40
  fucking nowhere out in the Urals or in Siberia or whatever it is
• 1:55:44
  out here in Russia that is out in the fucking wilderness.
• 1:55:47
  Like, but again, I can't rule out that it's not fucking aliens
• 1:55:52
  because people are saying so like there's so many different
• 1:55:55
  accounts. Like, is it were the military,
• 1:55:59
  the, the, the, the software Sasha talking about?
• 1:56:03
  Like was this guy out here, uh, trying to kill people?
• 1:56:08
  Because they're like, there was the whole, are they leaking
• 1:56:11
  nuclear secrets to the Americans as well?
• 1:56:14
  That was another one. And Sasha was sent out there to
• 1:56:17
  kill everybody. And, you know, there was a bunch
• 1:56:19
  of people who were just collateral damage because he
• 1:56:20
  needed to kill two people that worked in a nuclear facility.
• 1:56:24
  Also, the Russians were testing small nuclear weapons.
• 1:56:30
  Like not nuclear explosions, but like bio weapons that were like,
• 1:56:34
  yeah. Like personalized.
• 1:56:36
  Exactly what? Sorry.
• 1:56:37
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were talking about this
• 1:56:40
  sound thing here where it's like, yeah, that that was an
• 1:56:43
  actual weapon and not just the sound coming from the wind
• 1:56:46
  through the mountains, that there was another thing saying
• 1:56:49
  like that the Russians were testing out these weapons that
• 1:56:52
  they wanted to use in America that like, basically the brown
• 1:56:55
  noise. Could we make Americans shit
• 1:56:57
  themselves? There are weapons nowadays that
• 1:56:59
  are based on sound waves. Exactly.
• 1:57:01
  So like this technology, you know, they, they have been
• 1:57:04
  developing alternate technologies for weaponry for a
• 1:57:07
  very long time. So it's very possible that they
• 1:57:09
  would have had like this kind of like Sonic weapon that they
• 1:57:12
  would have been testing. Exactly this one tickles me in
• 1:57:14
  so many fucking different directions because.
• 1:57:17
  Like you were saying like Sasha at the start, like you know when
• 1:57:19
  he like met up with all these people, he said to like someone.
• 1:57:22
  The quote is this whole world will start talking about this
• 1:57:25
  trek. They will soon find out about
• 1:57:27
  everything. Like it's yeah.
• 1:57:29
  Oh fucking ominous. Really ominous.
• 1:57:32
  The way they explain that is that he was like, oh, nobody's
• 1:57:35
  ever done this trek in the winter.
• 1:57:37
  Nobody's ever. So no one's ever gone through
• 1:57:39
  this pass. It wasn't called the Atloff Pass
• 1:57:42
  at the start because that would have been a big coincidence.
• 1:57:44
  That actually would have been a lot of foreshadowing.
• 1:57:46
  I imagine. It was like why is this thing?
• 1:57:49
  After you, I don't know. The name just passed after me
• 1:57:53
  and because I survived very much to go through here.
• 1:57:56
  No, it's so like the way that we're talking about this pass as
• 1:58:01
  well, that like this is going to be one of those like we're all
• 1:58:04
  going to get like our third degree grade for going through
• 1:58:07
  this pass because it's so dangerous and but we're going to
• 1:58:10
  be able to do it because we're superhuman or whatever it is.
• 1:58:15
  But like, yeah. But again, it's just the wording
• 1:58:18
  of that. So like when when you talk about
• 1:58:21
  like, oh, he just means that everybody's going to be talking
• 1:58:24
  about you guys because you've done.
• 1:58:27
  The the. Unthinkable here and you've gone
• 1:58:28
  through that pass of winter. But when you look at the actual
• 1:58:31
  words, it's just, it looks like no people are going to be
• 1:58:35
  talking about this because something fucked up is going to
• 1:58:37
  happen up here. Yeah.
• 1:58:39
  Yeah, legit. Our names will ring in infamy
• 1:58:42
  forever, in a good way. Like what are we talking?
• 1:58:47
  What are we talking about here, Sasha?
• 1:58:48
  What I think happened, so I'm going to give you what what I
• 1:58:51
  think happens, OK? I think aliens came down in a
• 1:58:54
  ball of fire. Oh, yeah.
• 1:58:56
  They beamed metaphysical Bigfoot down.
• 1:58:59
  Fuck yeah. They gave him a nuclear sound
• 1:59:03
  weapon that he used to make a slab avalanche.
• 1:59:06
  And that's kill them all. I I think you've cracked it.
• 1:59:11
  I think you've cracked it. I think it was definitely
• 1:59:13
  military. I think it was they were
• 1:59:16
  unknowingly. Or army aliens.
• 1:59:18
  No. It was a military grade Bigfoot.
• 1:59:22
  Yeah. Like unknowingly.
• 1:59:27
  General Yeti OH. God.
• 1:59:30
  Brigadier General Bigfoot. But Danny, I do believe that
• 1:59:34
  like if, if anything is put like, you know what I mean of of
• 1:59:38
  the plausible things, I think you might be right there with
• 1:59:40
  that one like that the military, like I, I think the most
• 1:59:45
  plausible here is that. I think they were testing in
• 1:59:49
  those mountains. Yeah.
• 1:59:50
  And then they like unknowingly like just fucking set up camp
• 1:59:54
  when they were doing all sorts, all sorts of like fucking like
• 1:59:57
  weapons testings or whatever. And then they got like poisoned,
• 2:00:01
  but like, or you know what I mean?
• 2:00:02
  Like whatever the fuck happened, I think it it was military,
• 2:00:06
  especially for the fact that they closed it off for like so
• 2:00:08
  long afterwards. Like it has to be like fucking
• 2:00:12
  military because the Russians are sneaky cunts anyway.
• 2:00:15
  So it has to be something like that.
• 2:00:17
  I like I like my explanation better.
• 2:00:23
  Face Yeti. Fine, whatever.
• 2:00:25
  It was Badgers. Don Conroy.
• 2:00:31
  So I don't think we're going to do any better than I don't think
• 2:00:35
  we're going to get the explanation now.
• 2:00:37
  So I'm on board. I think take us home.
• 2:00:40
  OK, ladies and gentlemen, we we figured it out that the out of
• 2:00:46
  pass has been once and for all put to beds.
• 2:00:50
  It was aliens plus Bigfoot, plus their reverse vampires in
• 2:00:57
  conjunction with our parents. And yeah, those nine people died
• 2:01:03
  and may they rest in peace. Today's podcast has been
• 2:01:08
  produced by Alex Quinn, and he has a hell of a job putting this
• 2:01:14
  together. I've been just the he's been
• 2:01:18
  ocean and leading the charge today has been Danny Thomas.
• 2:01:22
  Thank you for hanging out with us for a spell.
• 2:01:26
  See you guys. Soon, bye, bye.