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- 1:00It's not about the zeros, So what is it all about? Let's find
- 1:03out Now here's your host and weekly friend, Jennifer Josh. Hey, y'all,
- 1:11here we are. I'm so excited today is going to be such a
- 1:12great day. I you gotta love tech, right like, we can't live
- 1:18with it and or live without it, and sometimes it's a little frustrating.
- 1:22So I basically had a computer meltdown with restarting my windows and all that craziness.
- 1:26So I'm all, my cute little surface pro so might look a little
- 1:30bit different, but it's okay. You can still hear me. And I
- 1:33have my beautiful soul sisters with me today. We're very excited. We're going
- 1:37to talk about an amazing topic, meditation and healing. What the heck are
- 1:42either and why do we need them? Do we need them? Does it
- 1:46change your life? Does it enhance it? Do you just feel like crap
- 1:49because you don't do it good enough? Because I've been there as well,
- 1:53and should we like give importance to this at all? So we are going
- 1:57to bring on Miss petele In and Misscara, and we are going to share
- 2:01a little bit about what we do and how we feel and what it does
- 2:06in our life. So if you're first joining us, these are beautiful soul
- 2:09sisters. We are missing Denise. Say hi to Denise's Nashville. She's having
- 2:15a good time, so she's yeah, she's missing her, she's missing our
- 2:19days. We should have sent her the link and said, hey, listen
- 2:21to us live like that would have been hilarious. I don't even think of
- 2:23that. So Denise is usually here with us. We do this once a
- 2:27month, and so check out all of our other episodes because we get down
- 2:30and dirty and we talk about real talk about all kinds of different topics.
- 2:34And so I'm gonna let you, beautiful ladies, introduce yourselves because somebody might
- 2:39be coming on for the very first time. So miss Karen, what's up
- 2:43girl? Where are you at, what you do? Where you live?
- 2:46Well? I am Karen Kavanaugh. I am a life and leadership coach and
- 2:50an energy leadership coach, and I am in Santraroan, California and happy to
- 2:55be here. So thanks for having me. And she lives. And they're
- 2:59too little Kenny Ketties. I do my few little munchkins, my free kids,
- 3:04I should say not little like they are literally not little at all.
- 3:07They're the most beautiful boys like ever, so cute, so cute little kitty
- 3:10cats. Love it, Miss Peelin tell us about you. Yeah, so
- 3:15I live up here in Mount Shasta area, and um, I don't know,
- 3:21you know, I'm gonna say, use my label as I'm a spiritual
- 3:23astronaut. Oh aren't you fancy today? Right? I know everything else just
- 3:30sounds you know, it's and it doesn't even capture the excitement with which,
- 3:38you know, what I get to do every day. So so I think
- 3:40spiritual astronaut is perfect. Oh my gosh, I love that. I love,
- 3:46love love it. So I love how I think all of us have
- 3:51set our lives up to live the lifestyles that we want. We're all different
- 4:00and the lifestyles are different. But I was just thinking at the two of
- 4:02you and then I'm like, okay, well I guess I did as well.
- 4:04So throughout our years, we've literally evolved to different places that changed our
- 4:14lifestyles and what we want now. And so I love how it's all like
- 4:17come together to bring us all to where we're at now and where every single
- 4:21one of us is living our freedom and our lifestyle that we actually want to
- 4:26live. So it's really really cool. I love that. And we all
- 4:29give back Dennis does as well. So we love being in of service of
- 4:33others and so it's pretty cool. We all do it in a different way.
- 4:36So it's it's it's awesome, awesome, all right, So let's dive
- 4:41right in. Tell me about your meditation practice. If you have one,
- 4:53so you get picked one, I don't know, it's like, am I
- 4:56the same place for everybody at It's like zoom, you know because anyway,
- 5:00Um so my meditation practice is it just depends. I love sometimes I'm really
- 5:08like diligent. I have my and I love I have an app that I
- 5:12use. Um, I use Insight Timer because you can do just a timer,
- 5:17you can have guided meditations, you can just do music kind of depending
- 5:23on the mood, and it tracks your meditation and when you're doing it and
- 5:27how you're doing it and all that. So, UM, I love that
- 5:30app for me when I use it. In this last week when I've actually
- 5:34needed it the most, I've kind of checked out of my meditation practice.
- 5:39And so the type a minus because I'm getting better. The type as in
- 5:45me would normally go to that place of beating myself up for not staying on
- 5:51top of my practice, and you know, or if I only do ten
- 5:56minutes and I don't do sit for like, you know, two hours like
- 5:58Petalon does, that I'm less than you know, and just like all the
- 6:01little stories that kind of go in your head of of you know, what
- 6:05I should or shouldn't be doing, and you know, in my mind,
- 6:09any meditation is good meditation. Even if it's just three breaths to get present,
- 6:16it's still good. So I this is. This is a really perfect
- 6:23timing for me because you know, I was doing so great up to probably
- 6:28like two weeks ago, and then it's just life happened, vacation, blah
- 6:31blah blah, and now I'm off again, and it's like, okay,
- 6:36this is and I feel it, like I can literally feel it in my
- 6:39body that I need my meditation practice back. So this is a perfect reminder
- 6:45to tomorrow morning. I promise actually after this call, after this podcast,
- 6:50I'm going to meditate. Oh my god, I love it. Awesome,
- 6:54awesome, thank you sure anytime. Happy to have a pod cast to get
- 7:00you back on. Let's always have a podcast about what we're not doing that
- 7:04we want to do, all right, yeah, yeah, Actually it's kind
- 7:08of like having a party, so that you'll clean your house right right,
- 7:11Yeah, for sure. I love that. So, Karen, I love
- 7:14your honesty. I love you coming in and saying that, because we all
- 7:18should all over ourselves, right, we always beat ourselves up. And this
- 7:23word meditation has just really irritated me for what fifteen years now. It's like
- 7:28whatever, because I am and have been type A focused. It's so hard
- 7:32for me to get quiet and sit still. And I like, eat Love
- 7:40Prey. I just watched again the other day. I'm like, there's no
- 7:42way that I'm going to go sit there for like ten hours during the day
- 7:44now. I would like to try, However, I just it's just not
- 7:47I don't see myself as that person. So I started meditating by walking,
- 7:54walking meditations, by movement meditations a lot like you said, the apps.
- 8:01I love the apps, and then they'll take you down a hallway or buy
- 8:05a river or whatever. That's how I had to start because I just couldn't
- 8:11like just quiet it and I still am not even close to that, and
- 8:18I cannot wait to share later. So stay tuned because I cannot wait to
- 8:24share that. I can whole hardly one say right now, it doesn't matter.
- 8:30It doesn't matter. If you've been doing it for two minutes, for
- 8:33five minutes, for twenty minutes, for one year, for three it does
- 8:35not matter, like it literally does not matter to get you where you want
- 8:39to be. So it's very very cool. Glad. I'm glad you you
- 8:43shared that. I am not. I've never been consistent ever and I've never
- 8:48done the app. I just it's just always been hodgipadgi. It just been
- 8:52crazy. And now with Peterlin, we're whole. I'm holding myself to Tuesday,
- 8:58Wednesday, Thursday, every morning with her energetically at eight am, so
- 9:03I'm, you know, twenty thirty minutes. I'm devoting that time to my
- 9:09angels, my body, my chakras, my healing, my silence whatever we
- 9:13want to call it, and grounding before that. Right, So, I
- 9:18still feel like I'm in action. I'm not just sitting there like Buddha.
- 9:22Right, I'm still more to like an in action meditation, but it is
- 9:26absolutely life changing. I can feel my heart rate. Let me rephrase that.
- 9:33I feel like I think my heart rate is slowing down. But I
- 9:39can feel the stress leave, I can feel the grounding, and I can
- 9:43feel that I'm not alone anymore. And it's it's it's absolutely it's absolutely amazing.
- 9:48So no shoulda, would have could is whatever we can do, we
- 9:50can do, right, I love it awesome. All right, miss um
- 9:54Spiritual Astronaut, thanks for joining us on Earth today. Right, come out?
- 10:03Yeah, okay, I'm back, Um I go and then I'm back,
- 10:07so um here she is right here? Um so uh, I love
- 10:13that you brought up the the apps. Um, I love that insight timer.
- 10:16What's really cool about the insight Timer two is it tracks how many days
- 10:20in a row you've been meditating, right, so like if you miss a
- 10:24day or you go, you know it didn't use the insight timer today,
- 10:28but I did meditate for half an hour, so I'm going to add that
- 10:31session in so I don't miss a day. Because they give you stars and
- 10:35rewards for however many you know. It's it's so for the A type personality
- 10:39who's like, you know, I want to reward, right, it's really
- 10:45it's really good. So and then the other app that I use too that
- 10:48I think is lovely and and and oh my gosh, the content is amazing
- 10:52is the Awakening app or the Waking Up app, but with by Sam Harris.
- 10:56It's excellent. Um, I think it's about one hundred dollars a year,
- 11:01but it's it's so worth it in every possible way, So I recommend
- 11:05that too. You guys just named two sponsors that I'm going to call after
- 11:07this and say, hey, would you like to sponsor my podcast? Because
- 11:11we oh, yeah, absolutely, And then I so agree with you.
- 11:15You know that it's it's about quality, not quantity, And if meditation is
- 11:20to teach us anything, it's really to how to bring that sense of presence
- 11:26into every moment of the day as we can. And it is as simple
- 11:31as just breathing in, breathing out, and just leaning into the stillness of
- 11:37that pause between the out breath and the in breath again. I mean,
- 11:41that'll just like bring you right into the moments, you know. So I
- 11:46think it's wonderful and it doesn't matter how much, just as long as you
- 11:50know, as we're because that's the whole point is to not sort of like,
- 11:54well, I will spend thirty minutes or five minutes being really present and
- 11:56then I hope that helps me for the rest of my day, you know
- 12:00kind of thing. It's like, you know, how do we really cultivate
- 12:03a practice of being present. So yeah, yeah, so I don't know,
- 12:07Sorry I did. I haven't been snorting cocaine. I have a cat
- 12:11here or something. Okay, my allergies right for our listeners, people scratching
- 12:18her nose, y'all, she's not like, that's right, touching my nose
- 12:22and you know, well you do live in weed, that's right. So
- 12:28now we are going to question you. Well, absolutely, and of course,
- 12:31as usual, I'm always going against the crowd, right, cocaine and
- 12:35weed. I don't know, it might. Yeah, that's a whole other
- 12:41podcast. It's a whole other podcast. All right. Yeah, I love
- 12:45it. I love it. Well. I love that we're so um honest,
- 12:50because have you ever like been like, you know, in a room
- 12:54full of people or whatever they're like, oh dude, you Oh yeah,
- 12:56I meditated every day. Yeah, I do my fifteen minutes or whatever.
- 13:00And it's almost like a shame that you're not in it, and that when
- 13:03you're around a bunch of healers and conscious people and it's like, oh,
- 13:09what do you mean you don't meditate? Like it's like an I breakfast.
- 13:11Of course I meditate, And it's kind of like a who are you kind
- 13:15of thing, and it's like, whoa, that's not what it's about.
- 13:20Like the whole purpose, like you said, peopling is to get present,
- 13:24and whatever helps us get present really helps. I started way back when,
- 13:28and I remember at the firm, when I was at I had to put
- 13:33alarm on my phone and I did it. I did it. Started with
- 13:35three times a day breathe. It's all it said, just take a breath.
- 13:39And I had to sit back, roll my shoulders because I was trying
- 13:41to get into my princess from may Vou's program and receive and let people do
- 13:46things for me. And I couldn't do that because I'm in my face going
- 13:50type and I had to get this done and where's my star? No,
- 13:52no, no, no no, And so I literally had to like you
- 13:54know, roll my shoulders back, sit back just kind of and I still
- 13:58have to do that, like I have to sit back and relax so that
- 14:03I'm not trying to do fifty things and just breathing three times a day.
- 14:05And then that wasn't enough. I needed to breathe every hour. And then
- 14:09I had that on my phone, my alarm every hour to breathe. And
- 14:13I feel like that was very helpful to me to be able to get grounded
- 14:18and to like you said, get in the moment like it. It really
- 14:20did help me. Did you guys have any other tips and take us?
- 14:24I think that's really key is to start where you are Again, it's because
- 14:28you can get as much as you as somebody else. You can get as
- 14:33much out of five minutes if that's what you can do, if you do
- 14:37it as somebody who can spend an hour or two like I tend to do,
- 14:41you know, um, meaning that you know, if your capacity is
- 14:46a thimble full, if you if you fill that thimble, it will build
- 14:50and the thimble will become a bucket, and then the bucket will become you
- 14:54know or whatever. Right, But the important thing is to is to fill
- 14:56the capacity that you have now for it so that it builds, rather than
- 15:01starting with a bucket and going but I only put a thimbleful into you know
- 15:07what I mean. It's so it's it's really about shifting that paradigm and just
- 15:09really um, you know, doing it that way. That makes sense?
- 15:13Yes, I love that. So let's go on this whe This just just
- 15:18came to me. What's the longest you've ever been able to sit still or
- 15:22like, let's just say not even meditate, but like with no because we
- 15:28know Peterlen's gonna blow us out of the water and I can't wait for her
- 15:31to hear what that is. But like Karen, you and I like no
- 15:35music, no TV, no reading, no phone, no nothing, and
- 15:39just sitting still in silence, not mopping, not cleaning, not doing dishes,
- 15:45just sitting. Can you think of a time that you've done for a
- 15:48long time? Oh? Good, tell me all about it. Yeah.
- 15:50Yeah, So I learned transient on meditation gosh, years ago, I mean
- 15:54maybe twenty years ago, maybe something like that. And so you're taught to
- 16:02sit for twenty minutes twice a day, and I did that twenty minutes twice
- 16:06a day, and I learned how to do that, and there were times
- 16:08where, you know, I would go beyond that twenty minutes. Sometimes it
- 16:14was thirty minutes, you know, but I would say the top was for
- 16:18me has been thirty minutes where I can just release, sit and be you
- 16:22know, fully present and in that space of just presence for that thirty minutes
- 16:27with and there's no there's no music, there's nothing when you practice transitentimitation.
- 16:33It's just you and your mantra and that's it. So I remember that Oprah
- 16:40introducing that into the prisons. She did a whole prison study about that,
- 16:44and it literally changed their lives. And I was like, oh, I
- 16:47wanted to get Parker in on that transcendental meditation that I forgot all about it.
- 16:51Thank you so much for bringing that up. Sure, I forgot all
- 16:53about that, but that's like amazing, that's cool. So we're going to
- 16:59ask um peterle And after I go, um, you gotta get she put
- 17:07her hand. Okay, I'm out. No no, no no, So
- 17:17I'm probably like you, I really haven't done that much um for a long
- 17:22period of time with nothing. Um. I will say that I had an
- 17:26amazing experience with Petland the other day, and after I was still recording it
- 17:33on Marco Polo, so I still had my phone there, so it wasn't
- 17:36nothing. But I literally sat in the chair and bawled and experienced and reveled
- 17:44and just sat in it. Oh my gosh. It was a long time,
- 17:53I want to say, probably for me, a long time, like
- 17:56an hour like it was. I'm like, I'm still here it, I'm
- 18:00still it's still flowing like it's great, feels amazing, and so it wasn't
- 18:06just completely silent, and I was still recording and stuff, but the feeling
- 18:11was amazing and I and that is when I'm gonna talk more about it later,
- 18:15So hang on, don't leave the podcast. That's going to be a
- 18:18little bit later after the commercial. We are literally going to talk about that
- 18:22because that was life changing, all right, Miss Peeln Meditation times, talk
- 18:26about a little bit more about like because I know you've done like, I
- 18:30don't want to say workshops, but you've gone and done like experiences places,
- 18:33right, So I have done a lot of workshops, but not so much
- 18:38in the spiritual, you know, realm because I was very I was still
- 18:42really trying to stay very clear and the left hemisphere of my brain where you
- 18:48know, we've got to like build a business and we've got to appeal to
- 18:52you know, most people, and you can't get to woo woo and at
- 18:55any rate. And you know me, I am all about like research and
- 19:00learning and all of that, so I tend to naturally gravitate toward the sciences
- 19:03and the physics and the theology and the philosophy of all of everything. So
- 19:07so so. But for me, that was my way of staying somewhat close
- 19:12to center between you know, between the spiritual realms, which I've always has
- 19:17always been my thing. Really, it was just about how to get that
- 19:21into the world in a more acceptable way. And um, and so you
- 19:26know, I've I've started to really lean into my own guidance, mostly because
- 19:34the more that I do learn, the more that I realized that my guidance
- 19:38already knew a lot of that stuff and all it needed to do was I
- 19:42needed to apply it. And you know, and you get to a place
- 19:48where all of a sudden, all the little connections that the breadcrumbs that you
- 19:52know, your guidance has been sort of you know, putting there, and
- 19:53you kind of go, okay, well, um, that seems like it's
- 19:56significant. So I'm going to put that in a box and keep that that
- 20:00will make sense one day and oh oh this this is well, this makes
- 20:02you know, it's like I'm not quite sure how to connect them all,
- 20:03and then one day, boom, it all connects. You know. So
- 20:10um, okay, so I'm not sure I'm answering your questions. Um,
- 20:14but so and and of course, you know, guidance also UM leads us
- 20:18to whether it's certain books or certain you know, webinars, or certain talks,
- 20:25or certain speakers or certain leaders, and that you know, who are
- 20:29who are genuinely trying to bring light to the world, not just build their
- 20:33business in a sense, right, they're really genuine like they don't need the
- 20:36money. They're in it to to spread light in the world. And UM
- 20:41and and so and all of that is a part of following the guidance and
- 20:45you know, just kind of expanding that that that that vibration in your life.
- 20:51And the more that that happens, the more I just sort of lean
- 20:53in and go, Okay, I'm on up for the ride. And that's
- 20:56why I'm kind of the astronaut here, you know. So I'm I'm not
- 21:02building the ship, but I'm not flying it, you know kind of thing.
- 21:04So yeah, So, I mean, and there are people who spend
- 21:07hours, you know, they do the workshops, they go to the meditation
- 21:11retreats, they spend eight to twelve hours or whatever, you know, and
- 21:15and you know, maybe someday I might do that, but I really enjoy
- 21:19the longest I think I've gone is probably four and a half hours, you
- 21:22know, of just meditating. But for me, I needed to do that,
- 21:27and I really enjoy the experience of being in a meditative state. So
- 21:33for me, that's it's fairly easy, I will say, But when I
- 21:37was trying to do thirty minutes a day, I found it really I found
- 21:41it really irritating. Yeah, me too, you know. And it wasn't
- 21:49until I started to go longer that I started to really go, oh,
- 21:55Okay, for me, this is what it's about. It's you know,
- 21:57kind I have to kind of get past that thirty minute threshold, at least
- 22:02I used to. Now I can sort of drop into it right away,
- 22:03but I used to have to get past that thirty minute threshold for me to
- 22:07really come into a place where, um, where I was, you know,
- 22:11suddenly like this is what it's about. That Okay, I get it.
- 22:14Yeah, And can you drop into it, um, the meditative state
- 22:21every time right away? Um? Yes, I would say yes. But
- 22:26I would also say that I have I have an unfair advantage to most people
- 22:30because I've really set my life up to make that really conducive. So,
- 22:37you know, I don't have, you know, a life partner, I
- 22:40don't have kids, I don't have you know. I mean, I've deliberately
- 22:44set my life up. That's why I moved up here, to change everything
- 22:47so that I can really pursue this to wherever it leads, you know.
- 22:51So yeah, that's cool. I love that. I love that. So
- 22:55Karen, Um, you said you've taken a couple of weeks off when you
- 22:57when you go act to your can. Now, I'm gonna just talk about
- 23:03words, because, like she's saying, drop in the meditative state, what
- 23:08does that look like for you? Dropping in? I'll have you both share,
- 23:12because everybody's a little bit different, right, So how does it feel
- 23:15like to you to drop in? Um? It's like this complete feeling of
- 23:25peace and calm, and it's like you're present, but you're you're not asleep,
- 23:32You're fully present. Or for me, I'm fully present. I'm gonna
- 23:36speak for me. I'm not you, but I am fully present. I
- 23:40am aware of my surroundings yet I am Like it's it's like almost like out
- 23:45of body experience where it's just I'm not I'm not me, I'm not my
- 23:51body. I am I just am right. It's just that place of that
- 23:55I am, you know, and it's that that spiritual place it's not the
- 24:00physical place, if that makes any sense, totally, totally. I think
- 24:04it makes sense more if you've experienced it as well, because I've just like
- 24:08recently been coming into all this fun stuff. So that's awesome. So Peele,
- 24:11and what does dropping in look like with you? Yeah? So I
- 24:15like to use that term because um uh, you know, and we all
- 24:19experience it and and and analogize it in different ways. And I really like
- 24:25the way that you because I agree with you, Karen, it is um.
- 24:30It is about coming to that place of peace and oneness. Right however
- 24:34you you know want to want to call phrase that, but um for me,
- 24:40um. Interestingly enough, dropping in for me is literally dropping into the
- 24:45center of my being. So I do use my corporal my body to to
- 24:52really you know, like my heart area or my solar plexus area. It's
- 24:56like it's like there's an anchor that goes from you know, the sun and
- 25:00just literally almost and I'm just describing the sensation of it, it sort of
- 25:03really drops down into my core and it quiets everything around me. So dropping
- 25:10in for me is refers to not having to create that feeling because I think
- 25:15when we first start off, we feel like, we have to create this
- 25:18feeling, so we're actually in action, so we are actually the antithesis of,
- 25:25you know, really just dropping in. And it also really points to
- 25:27the fact that that reservoir of peace is always present. It's always there,
- 25:33whether we are paying attention to it are not. So dropping in is literally
- 25:37like just dropping into a pool that is always there anyway, you know,
- 25:41sort of allowing it. So that's what it means for me. I love
- 25:45that, and I love There's a couple of reasons why I like that.
- 25:48So I'm going to share a little bit of my experience and then I'm going
- 25:52to let you both talk because I'm gonna have to go get my core to
- 25:55my computer because that's the way we roll here. I'm going to that I
- 26:03just really never really was I don't think very successful. I was getting quiet,
- 26:07it was great, and I was loving feeling at peace. And then
- 26:11I did a sound bowl workshop. I attended a sound bowl which I'm actually
- 26:15doing a meditation one on this Saturday. So I'll talk to you more about
- 26:18that because I'm gonna need help. But I finally understood what you meant by
- 26:26peace and dropping in. I literally melted into the couch, I had no
- 26:33hands, I had no feet. I finally understood what everybody was talking about
- 26:40with just being and it was the most relaxing feeling that was just like last
- 26:45month. And I carried that calm with me for probably three or four days,
- 26:53I think it was. And I even saw Shanna who did it,
- 26:57who held it, and I'm like, I'm still I'm still relaxed. I'm
- 27:00like, thank you, thank you, thank you. And I think that's
- 27:03helped me with this practice because I was already working with Peteln and learning all
- 27:07this and then that happened, and now I'm here and it's just kind of
- 27:11all snowballed. And the other day when I had my experience with Petln,
- 27:15after I am sitting there going I'm part of that tree, I'm part of
- 27:23the sunshine, I'm part of the rays. Like it literally was nobody,
- 27:27like you said, Karen, literally nobody. I was just part of being,
- 27:33of just being and sitting there. It was such an amazing feeling,
- 27:38like I love, love love it. So it is very addicting. So
- 27:41now that I've had that, I'm like down for it. It's really hard
- 27:45to explain, too, isn't it really hard to when because there are different
- 27:49levels of feeling that way. You know that's true. So I'm going to
- 27:53let you guys talk about that exact thing level say, like different levels like
- 27:59maybe what like maybe I don't want to say a beginner because I've done it
- 28:03for years and I still could never get to it. So it's not like
- 28:06a beginner, but it would be like different levels of dropping in. Can
- 28:08you talk a little bit about both of you talk about that and I'll be
- 28:11right back. Karen, what do you what do you think that you know?
- 28:18I don't I can't really speak to to that because I don't know that
- 28:22I've had a lot of I mean, I shouldn't say that. I think
- 28:25when I first started, um, it was you know, because you're I
- 28:30had to go from the thinking brain, you know, and to and like,
- 28:34okay, am I doing this right? You know? Am I noticed?
- 28:37Like should I be noticing things in my body? Am I supposed to
- 28:41be noticing anything? You know? So it's like completely like you said,
- 28:44the antithesis of meditation, right, because I'm thinking I'm not just being right?
- 28:49Um, So it could have went from and I still experience that.
- 28:52It's like, oh here, I'm thinking you know, and and then and
- 28:55then the other part is is the recognition of the thoughts, right, and
- 29:00so thoughts are normal. It's part of the process, right, we are
- 29:04going to think, and it's just recognizing the thought and then noticing it and
- 29:08letting it go. Right. It's like clouds kind of floating by m So
- 29:14there's I think that that's very much, you know, at the beginning level,
- 29:18like oh my gosh, I'm thinking too much. I'm doing it wrong.
- 29:21You know. It's like I spent all this time, I'm not doing
- 29:22it right, you know, and just and that's just you know, that's
- 29:25that was my crap. You know, that was my crop. The perfectionist
- 29:30part of it, right of dealing with that, you know. And I
- 29:33think as as you progress and as you and as I practice more and more,
- 29:37you know, like you said, I mean I could drop in on
- 29:41an airplane. It didn't matter where I was. I mean it was great
- 29:44because I would be you know, using that time that beyond an airplane and
- 29:47be flying somewhere on business and I would just take that, you know,
- 29:49twenty minutes and you know, I got my meditation for the day. I
- 29:53was able to put me get my little star that was great. But I
- 30:00think that you know, and I you know, I've heard people that met
- 30:04it of you know, like yourself too, that have meditated for these long,
- 30:07extended periods of time, and I have not experienced that, So I
- 30:11really can't speak much to that, so I will turn that to you.
- 30:18Well, I can only speak from my own experience and obviously, um,
- 30:22um, yeah, so I think this is part of part of where what
- 30:30happens with the brain it sort of goes off and then it doesn't forget right.
- 30:37Um. But but yeah, so I I totally hear you. I
- 30:41love I love that you brought up you know, that chatty brain thing and
- 30:44so on, because I think, Um, for me anyway, I recognize
- 30:48once I went into the longer meditations that coming into equilibrium and total acceptance and
- 30:59even a level of humor around noticing the chatty mind and going oh, there
- 31:06it is again, and oh that's an interesting thought before we're going to put
- 31:08that down, and just really having coming into a form of compassion around it
- 31:14is very helpful because the ideas, as I understand it and as I'm trying
- 31:21to practice it as well, is to not to not actually have an agenda
- 31:29you know, it's actually to not even you know, go for the star
- 31:33or whatever. It's it's to actually totally let go of any agenda whatsoever,
- 31:38to be in complete equanimity, if you will, free of aversion and attachment.
- 31:42And so it's a great way to practice letting go of attachment. So
- 31:48that's letting go of our reason for doing it that we know that motivates us
- 31:52to to do it, or wanting to get something specific out of it,
- 31:55or oh my god, I hope this is working. Well what exactly does
- 31:57working mean? You know? And look like? And what is it that
- 32:00I'm hoping to you know? And so on? So um, you know.
- 32:04So so that's another stage I guess of it as well. And um.
- 32:08And then as we kind of you know, learn to let that go
- 32:12um for me, Um, then you know, all sorts of things happen.
- 32:17I noticed that it really as I started to sit for longer and longer,
- 32:22um in that in that place of silence, I noticed that everything started
- 32:29happening in my world around me. I mean, you know, it's it's
- 32:32how I started this, this work that you and I have been doing,
- 32:36you know, Jennifer and so on, and yeah, everything just sort of
- 32:40Yeah, it's just it's like, you know, you just along for the
- 32:43ride. You just sort of jump in the river and got yeah, I'm
- 32:45just gonna float. It's great, you know, and the river just kind
- 32:50of goes, you know, and you go, oh, that's really interesting.
- 32:52Wow, I never knew this existed. Blah blah blah. It's great.
- 32:55So you know, and of course there are child challenges and so on.
- 32:58But as I say, I have an unfair advantage because I've set my
- 33:01life up for this. So you know, that was purposeful. It was
- 33:07absolutely purposeful. Yeah, yeah, I love it. Awesome. Well,
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- 34:49Let's put the fun in finance with your host a weekly friend, Jennifer Jos.
- 34:54Okay, we're back. We're just like welcome. You're right. I
- 34:58know it's a really great jingle. I love the FS. You know,
- 35:01like, what is it? Uh fin uh fun and finance? No,
- 35:07no, no, feminine financial freedom. Yes, I love that. And
- 35:10then if you had a program, ye fun feminine financial And you know,
- 35:16my favorite word is the F word release. So I kind of think,
- 35:19all you we know it? Hey, I do. I am a trucker
- 35:29from way back, man, it is my favorite word. I love it.
- 35:32Okay, So now we're going to dive into basically summing all the meditation
- 35:38up. It can look however you want it to look, just to get
- 35:40present and now doesn't doesn't matter. However, however, it works to make
- 35:44you feel good as great. So how um like stepping into the word healing.
- 35:52We've all heard that, you know, prayers heal. We've we've heard
- 35:58that there's shamanistic type of people that can you can go to and get healed
- 36:05and that kind of thing in church and religion and you know they're healers and
- 36:08stuff like that. So we've heard the word healing, and I just want
- 36:15to talk about it more because now that we had the show, which go
- 36:20listen to one of our other shows, which is North Marie Z on the
- 36:24Chakras and I'm new to this learning the chakras, but lighting up my heart
- 36:30chakra which is gold, which is amazing per Marie, and peeling, I
- 36:36can actually feel that gold moving around and having a healing energy around my body
- 36:44and around what's going on with me. That's how as much as I can
- 36:49explain around the healing situation, Karen, any experiences with healing with that word
- 36:57or even what does that even mean to you? Well, healing it's it's
- 37:01it's it's like you know it. It goes back to the mind, body,
- 37:05spirit, right, it's you can heal your mind, you can heal
- 37:07your body, you can heal your spirit, right, and we are all
- 37:10of those things, and so healing you know, Um, it's it's it's
- 37:16when things are out of alignment. For me, and this is for how
- 37:20I interpret it is it's when things are out of alignment, right when and
- 37:24when when something is off. So when something's off in my body, you
- 37:29know, my back will hurt, my fetal hurt, my knees will hurt,
- 37:31right, and so something is off and and so you know, I'm
- 37:37I am that My choice is to do everything holistically and naturally without you know,
- 37:43from suitables, without medications or anything like that and trusting that there is
- 37:47a way to do so. UM. Thank God for petal and too because
- 37:51she helps with that. Um. And but you know, so if it's
- 37:57something physical, it's like, okay, what like, what is it the
- 38:00source? What is it the core of that issue? Because it's it's the
- 38:05issues are symptomatic of the core. Right. And so if it's something you
- 38:09know, spiritual, and I'm just feeling like I'm not in alignment with who
- 38:14I am and what I'm doing, and it could be something as simple as
- 38:20um, I'm trying to try to think of an example, you know,
- 38:25if I'm not feeling you know, if I'm not speaking my truth as an
- 38:29example, right, it feels icky in my body, like I just it
- 38:34doesn't feel right. I'm not being in alignment with who I am and with
- 38:38my spirit right, And I can I can I notice that so that there's
- 38:43something there? Why am I doing that? What needs to be healed for
- 38:47me in order for me to feel that I can can speak my truth?
- 38:52I can say, what's there for me? Um? Same thing in my
- 38:54body? What is it that's off out of alignment that needs to be Is
- 39:00it nutrition? Is it something physical. Am I doing something? Am I
- 39:04moving improperly? Um? Am? I overcompensating in certain areas and that can
- 39:08also leave it lead into you know, other things. Right. So Um,
- 39:13for me, it's it's starts with alignment and what's what's what's off?
- 39:17And then what do I need to do in order to bring me myself,
- 39:23my mind, body, spirit back into alignment. I love that. I
- 39:28love that peole and talk to me about healings, my dear. So.
- 39:32Um, the way that I look at it is, um, is,
- 39:39healing is something that happens constantly, you know it just like the cells,
- 39:45you know, old cells and so on, they die off and they're destroyed
- 39:47and the body takes care of them. Healing is constantly happening, right,
- 39:52So it's almost something that we don't have to do, Okay, Um,
- 39:57It's it's a For me, it's about developing or cultivating a congruency in all
- 40:02the aspects of my life so that healing can happen. And I'm saying this
- 40:07specifically because it's I mean I So one of the ways that I'm I'm definitely
- 40:15into right now is doing is fasting, whether it's intermittent fasting or fasting for
- 40:21you know, several days or whatever it is. And I'm doing that very
- 40:23consistently, and because you know, there's so much congruency now between my heart's
- 40:31desire and what I'm doing in the world in healing, that I have no
- 40:38issues anymore in terms of sticking to my fasting plan and so on. Because
- 40:44one of the things that for me, fasting does is, you know,
- 40:46and for most people, is it allows the body to heal. It allows
- 40:50the body to heal itself in a very natural way. So that's why I
- 40:53for me, healing is about allowing cultivating congruency between the different parts of our
- 41:00lives so that they can work together in a sort of a symbiotic way,
- 41:06so that we're not efforting particularly to heal because the very, the very a
- 41:13notion that we need to do certain things so that the body can rest and
- 41:16heal again. There's an incongruency to that, you know, But it's in
- 41:20our it's in our Western thinking. You know. It's like, it's like,
- 41:22what is it to do do to have to be? And I always
- 41:29flip that, I've been flipping that for years. It's like, you know,
- 41:31be, who are you? What is it that you are? What
- 41:36is it that you already have that is congruent with what you are? And
- 41:39when you decide what you already have, how can that already see what it
- 41:45is that you want to do. Otherwise, if you're doing you're just sort
- 41:47of doing all sorts of things hoping that you could, you know, help
- 41:51you to have what you need so that you can be who you want to
- 41:53be. You know, when we're already are you know? So? So
- 41:58I look at healing as a very sort of an organic kind of a being
- 42:02home. It's a sort of it's a homing device to home. It's sort
- 42:06of a homing thing right when we're there. It allows healing to happen on
- 42:09multiple levels, multiple ways. So I'm truly sing that right now. Yeah,
- 42:15I love that, And I love how you're both kind of saying the
- 42:17same thing with balance for Karen and congruency with people. And I love that.
- 42:22And I use the word alignment when I know that I'm on my path,
- 42:27and like you say to do to get on your path, I think
- 42:30we've all said it here. It's not about to do. It's just like
- 42:34I know, I'm feeling it when I'm not like I'm when I'm straying away
- 42:37from my path, whatever my path is, and sometimes I don't even know
- 42:40what it is, but I know that I'm not there, and it feels
- 42:45yucky to not be on my path, and it's like, oh, let's
- 42:47get let's get back, let's get back to our path, whatever that might
- 42:51be. And then like I'm kind of just flowing the river with you as
- 42:53well. But when I'm totally aligned and I make a decision on something like
- 42:57moving from the Bay Area to stand, it's selling everything. Moving like that
- 43:00was ridiculous. I lovely moved within three weeks because it was completely aligned.
- 43:04I knew that was it. I knew that was what I was going to
- 43:07do. And it makes decisions so much easier when you're balanced or congruent or
- 43:12aligned. Right, we're all saying the same thing, but when we are
- 43:15all set up to be who we are, it could be a purpose,
- 43:22that could be a mission. It could just be feeling wonderful in our body.
- 43:25And when we're when we're doing that eating right to for our body like
- 43:30people and is doing fasting now, I've been on a nutrition thing since I
- 43:35broke my face and lost my teeth a year and a half ago. So
- 43:37I've been doing that with doctor Tracy and healing my body from the that side
- 43:45of things. But our mind, like you said, Karen, mind,
- 43:46body, soul, our mind is so much part of that, which is
- 43:50why I love to get people's mindset straight around their money, because it's not
- 43:53about the zeros like I've had. Like I just had a forty five dollar
- 44:00month and the next week it was like, I'm not aligned. So it's
- 44:05not about the money. It has nothing to do with money. It's literally
- 44:08about our mind, body, spirit, control and congruency and all of that.
- 44:13That's awesome, Well it's not. It's it's not here's here's the caveat
- 44:16there that I want to mention and we all know this, but it's worth
- 44:20mentioning. It's not about perfection. So one of the reasons that I personally,
- 44:25uh use the word congruency it personally speaks to me um because uh,
- 44:31to say the balance and alignment suggests to my you know, rat brain,
- 44:38is that if it's not there, I've failed in some way. Right,
- 44:43So for me to to cultivate congruency, it's always a process. It's never
- 44:47a there, do you know what I mean. So, so it's it's
- 44:51a little bit more forgiving, and it's for me, it's more encouraging to
- 44:54keep to keep moving in that direction, recognizing that it's it's it's it's a
- 45:00process of up and down and up and down and up and down, right,
- 45:02and and so there's never there there, it's never going to be a
- 45:07straight line. Well, I'm aligned, and i'm you know, I'm you
- 45:09know all of that, right, it doesn't allow better, it doesn't allow
- 45:14for the wisdom that comes with the dips. Right, And because you know,
- 45:19our body is constantly changing. Are our hopes and dreams are constantly changing.
- 45:22We're organic, right, and we're constantly growing and developing. So um,
- 45:27so you know, who I was yesterday is not the same as who
- 45:30I am today. So it's really about being you know, here in the
- 45:36moment, dropping in, as we said, dropping in. I love that,
- 45:38that's very true because then like that is where we get our wisdom,
- 45:43is the dips, and to always try to not have that like being aligned
- 45:47or not aligned. Then it's a wrong or right, yes or no,
- 45:51on or off, and the offs are some of the best, some of
- 45:58the best teachings and experiences whatever whatever you want to call it. That's very
- 46:04true. Absolutely the best. That's where we get everything, right, Yeah,
- 46:07yeah, I love that. That's where the opportunity lies grow. Yeah,
- 46:13opportunity for growth, Yes, absolutely absolutely, So there's a good segue
- 46:20into growth. So let's talk about that. Do you people in our life,
- 46:32how does it work with not just meditating but actually growth, personal growth?
- 46:40All of this is all about personal growth, right, It's all about
- 46:44your life path, whatever you're doing, whatever you choose, your lifestyle and
- 46:46everything. So when you have people come into your life that does not maybe
- 46:52understand what you're doing or haven't experienced it, maybe be a little bit afraid
- 47:00of it, or just sucking onto you to get all of your amazing good
- 47:05energy and not giving anything back, right, it could be bull What do
- 47:08you do do you experience that? First of all, Karen, we have
- 47:12what do we have? We only have a few minutes left, But give
- 47:15me a tip on because we all experience that, So just give me a
- 47:17tip on what do you do with that kind of kind of experience? Um?
- 47:22I call those energy vampires, okay, And they do suck the life
- 47:27out of you if you let them. And it's it's it's like I feel
- 47:30it like I just know that that's what's going on. It's like it's it's
- 47:35as simple for me as how do I feel when I'm with this person?
- 47:38Do I feel energized or do I feel depleted? And if I feel depleted,
- 47:44then I know what I can feel what's going on, and I have
- 47:47that's a boundary that I have to create. It's like, okay, I
- 47:50have to go. I don't let people like that in my life. Typically
- 47:52it's you know, at least I try not to. Sometimes, you know,
- 47:55they sneak in, but I try not to let that in because I,
- 48:01you know, I want to continue to grow my energy and expand my
- 48:06energy, and I can't do that if someone's sucking it away. So it's
- 48:08part of my self care and self love practice to not allow that into my
- 48:13life and really only surround myself with people like yourselves that are you know that
- 48:17I have that expand my energy. Because when like when we were all together,
- 48:22I mean I felt like invincible. It's so amazing spending time with you
- 48:27ladies, because it was just it's like I was, I felt filled,
- 48:30right, It's just a very it was awesome our soul sisters sleepover. That's
- 48:35awesome. Just feeling what do you do about coming across that kind of person.
- 48:40So I think it's really important to to do what Karen's talking about,
- 48:45UM, especially as a way of really discerning um where the quality of different
- 48:52energies in our lives, our own energy, and also to become really firm
- 48:58in our and the level we want to play at in our baseline of joy
- 49:02and energy and so on. For me, now, I realize that if
- 49:09I I will need to caveat this, if I disallow certain things that occur
- 49:16in my life, meaning even people that come across and so on, I'm
- 49:22actually shutting something down in myself. So the way that I approach it now
- 49:28is that UM, I observe, I kind of hold the position of an
- 49:32observer and and and in observing with my heart, UM, I'm not taking
- 49:38in anything that they're putting out, and I'm not allowing necessarily anything to be
- 49:44taken from me because I'm aware of them. I'm aware of where they are
- 49:49in themselves, and I don't own any of it. It does it,
- 49:52it's not. It's their journey, and I'm appreciating their journey. You know.
- 49:58They have full ownership of you know, and I have to respect them
- 50:01because I think that I think that social energy vampires aren't necessarily like certain people.
- 50:08They're all of us at times in our lives, you know, depending
- 50:13to hold a certain you know, there are some that you know could be
- 50:15professional ones, I guess, but but youre talking about it. Yes,
- 50:22but in a sense they are still us, you know, and so to
- 50:25hold that compassion um. So that's kind of what I'm trying to practice us
- 50:30more awesome. We're gonna sum up today with that beautiful word compassion. I
- 50:35love that. Thank you ladies so much for coming on Soul Sister Siries.
- 50:38Next month they'll be more exciting or as exciting with a different topic. So
- 50:43it's going to be totally awesome. Thank you ladies so much. Let's give
- 50:46love, light and compassion. See you all here. I love you guys,
- 50:51Love you guys. Bye. We appreciate you joining us today, and
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