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- 0:02Speaker 1: They are some of the world's most notorious serial killers.
- 0:05Speaker 1: He was like a god when he had a corpse
- 0:07Speaker 1: at his plaything. But were these psychopaths born evil or
- 0:11Speaker 1: did their mothers make them into monsters? I'm Donald McIntyre
- 0:17Speaker 1: and I'm on a quest to explore how some of
- 0:19Speaker 1: history's most horrific murderers were moulded by their dysfunctional relationships
- 0:24Speaker 1: with their mothers. When it comes to people who are pathological, psychopathic,
- 0:29Speaker 1: the influence of the mother is absolutely dominant. I'll be
- 0:32Speaker 1: piecing together events in their childhoods and talking to criminologists
- 0:37Speaker 1: and psychologists to try to understand what motivated their monstrous crimes.
- 0:42Speaker 1: We've never come across a serial killer who'd killed that
- 0:44Speaker 1: many people. In this program, the Polish killer Leszek Pinkowski,
- 0:50Speaker 1: he confessed to a spree of 67 sexual murders, including men, women,
- 0:55Speaker 1: and children as victims. Were these confessions the work of
- 0:59Speaker 1: Poland's most prolific serial killer or the fantasies of a
- 1:03Speaker 1: deranged mind?
- 1:05Speaker 2: He's somebody whose behaviour.
- 1:07Speaker 3: Is off the Richter scale.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Leszek Penkalski is one of Poland's most notorious murderers. In 1996,
- 1:44Speaker 1: he was convicted of murder and rape, and he's still
- 1:47Speaker 1: behind bars. And it was in these woods near Bitow
- 1:50Speaker 1: in rural northern Poland where his murderous career would reach
- 1:54Speaker 1: its terrifying climax. 28-year-old Penkalski was living a rough in
- 2:00Speaker 1: the woods. He was hungry, desperate, and begged a young
- 2:05Speaker 1: 17-year-old shop assistant called Sylwia He asked her for sex.
- 2:10Speaker 4: She brushed away his advances. Humiliated and enraged, he caved
- 2:13Speaker 4: her skull in with a spade. Sylwia died of blows
- 2:14Speaker 4: to the head, and then, after her death, he sexually
- 2:17Speaker 4: abused her.
- 2:42Speaker 1: The police identified Pankowski as the perpetrator of this horrific
- 2:45Speaker 1: crime and arrested him here in his hometown of Olszewski.
- 2:49Speaker 1: And when he was questioned, he admitted to dozens of
- 2:52Speaker 1: other murders, men, women and children, in cases which have
- 2:55Speaker 1: baffled the police in Poland for nearly a decade. Police
- 3:00Speaker 1: initially charged Pankowski with 17 crimes, ranging from assault to
- 3:05Speaker 1: rape and murder. But when it got to court, only
- 3:08Speaker 1: two indictments remained. After claims of mishandling of key evidence
- 3:12Speaker 1: by the police, Penkalski was found guilty of just one murder,
- 3:16Speaker 1: that of 17-year-old Sylvia. In 1996, he was found guilty
- 3:21Speaker 1: of this murder and sentenced to 25 years in jail. Many,
- 3:25Speaker 1: though within the criminal justice system, still think he committed
- 3:29Speaker 1: scores of the crimes he confessed to. How did Penkalski
- 3:33Speaker 1: turn into this monster? And how did his relationship with
- 3:36Speaker 1: his mother make him into a murderer?
- 3:39Speaker 2: I think it's true to say that he wouldn't have
- 3:41Speaker 2: become a killer if it hadn't have been for actions taken.
- 3:45Speaker 3: By his mother.
- 3:57Speaker 1: In 1966, Leszek Pinkowski was born here in the small
- 4:01Speaker 1: farming village of Olszewki, about 70 kilometres from the Baltic Sea.
- 4:05Speaker 1: His mother Cecilia was a farmhand and had a reputation
- 4:08Speaker 1: for being loud and for having a problem with alcohol.
- 4:12Speaker 1: She found it very difficult to hold down any stable relationship.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Her existence was basic. Her main interests were men and
- 4:20Speaker 1: alcohol and little else.
- 4:24Speaker 5: Their only entertainment was alcohol and sex. Cecilia Pękalska was
- 4:28Speaker 5: an easy woman and had many sexual partners.
- 4:33Speaker 2: In a Catholic country and a small rural community, Penkalski's
- 4:37Speaker 2: mother would have been frowned upon and she would have
- 4:39Speaker 2: been stigmatized and any child of hers would have shared
- 4:42Speaker 2: that stigmatization.
- 4:44Speaker 1: So when Cecilia fell pregnant, none of the villages in
- 4:47Speaker 1: this tight-knit community were shocked at all. And there's evidence
- 4:50Speaker 1: that was damage done to Leszek before he was even born.
- 4:57Speaker 5: The pregnancy in Sicily was accidental. Her abuse of him
- 5:02Speaker 5: started even before he was born. Children who've been exposed
- 5:04Speaker 5: in utero to alcohol.
- 5:29Speaker 2: Have cognitive difficulties, they're more likely to have learning difficulties.
- 5:33Speaker 2: So it's hard for them to make sense of social
- 5:37Speaker 2: cues and to take opportunities to learn and grow in
- 5:41Speaker 2: the way that we would.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Cecilia gave birth to twins. Her daughter, Joanna, was healthy,
- 5:47Speaker 1: but Leszek was born with some obvious mental impairments.
- 5:52Speaker 4: When Celina was born, I was working at the hospital.
- 5:55Speaker 6: She was moving her head differently and thin.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Cecilia showed little affection towards her new son. She saw
- 6:12Speaker 1: him as a burden, especially as the man who'd fathered
- 6:15Speaker 1: the twins wanted nothing to do with the children. Cecilia's
- 6:19Speaker 1: drinking problems ensured that she struggled to bring up the
- 6:21Speaker 1: family on her own.
- 6:23Speaker 2: As with any child that doesn't have a father figure,
- 6:26Speaker 2: he would like somebody to look up to, and somebody
- 6:29Speaker 2: to show him the way, if you like, and how
- 6:31Speaker 2: to treat people, and how to treat women in particular.
- 6:36Speaker 6: All he had was a really bad model from his mum,
- 6:40Speaker 6: and nobody to correct him or to set him straight
- 6:43Speaker 6: when his behaviours were errant or went astray.
- 6:46Speaker 1: The little money Cecilia did bring home was spent on
- 6:49Speaker 1: fuelling her addiction.
- 6:51Speaker 3: Leszek and his sister were very often hungry.
- 6:54Speaker 5: Penkalski would be left in the care of his grandmother,
- 6:57Speaker 5: but like her daughter, she also had problems with alcohol.
- 7:29Speaker 1: By the age of five, Pankowski had already been starved
- 7:32Speaker 1: of all the love and attention and even the basic
- 7:34Speaker 1: needs that one would expect from a good mother. But
- 7:37Speaker 1: did these poverty-stricken and emotionally barren years sow the seeds
- 7:42Speaker 1: for the murderer he'd become? It seems to me that
- 7:48Speaker 1: Pankowski's mother really is somebody who was at the lowest end,
- 7:53Speaker 1: the lowest rung of society. And she understands that and
- 7:57Speaker 1: she drinks herself into an oblivion with the obvious effects
- 8:00Speaker 1: on Leszek.
- 8:01Speaker 7: Well, I think we can argue that alcohol starts to
- 8:03Speaker 7: have an impact before he's even born because his mother
- 8:06Speaker 7: is reportedly quite a heavy drinker. And we know from
- 8:09Speaker 7: quite a few studies that there's something called fetal alcohol
- 8:12Speaker 7: spectrum disorder. And some of those children are born looking
- 8:16Speaker 7: quite different from other newborn babies. So So the damage
- 8:22Speaker 7: is starting to be done before he even comes into
- 8:24Speaker 7: the world.
- 8:24Speaker 1: And is there a suggestion that there was a little
- 8:26Speaker 1: hint of that alcohol fetal syndrome in Leszek when he
- 8:31Speaker 1: was born?
- 8:32Speaker 8: He had some changes in his brain, and we know
- 8:36Speaker 8: that for a fact. He behaved in quite a strange
- 8:39Speaker 8: way for the child, and he was also then mentally ill.
- 8:45Speaker 1: So for some reason she didn't cradle him when he
- 8:49Speaker 1: was born, but she did cradle his sister. And of course,
- 8:52Speaker 1: you know, that rejection at an early age must have
- 8:56Speaker 1: been significant.
- 8:57Speaker 8: His mother, she didn't want him. I think she didn't
- 9:01Speaker 8: care about him. Like, he was dirty, he was smelly.
- 9:05Speaker 8: So she just created this really cruel world for her son.
- 9:11Speaker 8: And we do not know the reason why she did that.
- 9:14Speaker 8: Maybe she was a little bit ashamed of his condition.
- 9:18Speaker 7: The mother just does not care about him. He's just
- 9:21Speaker 7: an inconvenience. Basically, the child is incredibly needy. Nobody cares
- 9:26Speaker 7: about him. He's learning that he can't depend on anybody
- 9:31Speaker 7: right now.
- 9:31Speaker 1: In that rural Catholic community in Poland 30, 40, 50
- 9:35Speaker 1: years ago, it's quite clear that is that the concept
- 9:39Speaker 1: of illegitimacy was still quite a label.
- 9:42Speaker 7: I mean, the family was the cornerstone institution of society,
- 9:45Speaker 7: wasn't it? It was a real kind of moral organisation
- 9:49Speaker 7: of a mother, a father and children. So to come
- 9:52Speaker 7: into the world already labelled, already stigmatised, he was just
- 9:55Speaker 7: devalued from the moment he came into the world.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Coming up at the hands of his mother, Pinkowski learns
- 10:03Speaker 1: that violence can be the answer to his problems.
- 10:06Speaker 2: He's somebody whose behaviour is off the Richter scale and
- 10:10Speaker 2: he doesn't seem able to stop himself.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Leszek Pinkowski is believed to have committed a 12-year spree
- 10:16Speaker 1: of rape and murder across Poland. between 1984 and 1992.
- 10:21Speaker 1: The seeds of this murderous campaign may rest in his
- 10:25Speaker 1: dysfunctional childhood. His mother drank heavily while pregnant with him,
- 10:29Speaker 1: possibly causing him brain damage. She ignored, neglected, and abused
- 10:33Speaker 1: him in his early years. But was this alone sufficient
- 10:37Speaker 1: to turn him into the murderous, lustful killer he became?
- 10:43Speaker 1: Pankalski spent his early years in this rural village of
- 10:46Speaker 1: Osieki in northern Poland. His drink-sodden mother and grandmother were
- 10:51Speaker 1: terrible carers, but it was more than just neglect. There
- 10:54Speaker 1: was also violence.
- 11:01Speaker 5: When he and his sister saw that their mother and
- 11:04Speaker 5: grandmother were drunk, they wanted to run away from the house.
- 11:10Speaker 5: They wanted to hide in the barn. They said that
- 11:12Speaker 5: something bad was going to happen.
- 11:15Speaker 9: Kalski was born in a village, where violence was used
- 11:22Speaker 9: against children. The mother and grandmother were very primitive in
- 11:26Speaker 9: their way of functioning. And that's how they behaved towards him.
- 11:32Speaker 3: The mother.
- 11:35Speaker 5: And grandmother beat him with everything they had. Leszek liked
- 11:39Speaker 5: to look at the fire. He was burying it with
- 11:41Speaker 5: a burglary. He put it in, pulled it out. That
- 11:45Speaker 5: level of physical abuse would have a profound effect on
- 11:48Speaker 5: a child. Children will deal with that either by becoming very,
- 11:51Speaker 5: very angry themselves and trying to find people.
- 11:54Speaker 2: Or things that are less powerful than they are, that
- 12:17Speaker 2: they can enact abuse upon themselves, or they will turn
- 12:21Speaker 2: inwards and become emotionally unresponsive. It seems that in Penkalski's case,
- 12:27Speaker 2: he very much dealt with the situation by becoming an
- 12:31Speaker 2: abuser himself.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Even from an early age at this school here in
- 12:37Speaker 1: the village, Penkalski was already being isolated from his fellow classmates.
- 12:42Speaker 1: The abuse and neglect he suffered at home, combined with
- 12:45Speaker 1: his learning difficulties, meant he was always treated as an outsider.
- 12:50Speaker 1: Was this the start of his path to murder?
- 12:52Speaker 5: You could see that Leszek was mentally ill.
- 12:56Speaker 10: He was walking, he was so drunk.
- 12:58Speaker 3: You could see that. He was marked out as different.
- 13:33Speaker 2: He was less able, and that must have added to
- 13:35Speaker 2: a sense of rage, really, and a sense of injustice.
- 13:41Speaker 2: And he must have formed a world view that, in
- 13:45Speaker 2: actual fact, nobody cares about me.
- 13:48Speaker 3: I'm alienated from everyone.
- 13:51Speaker 1: Penkalski couldn't even turn to his own mother when he
- 13:54Speaker 1: was bullied at school. If he had done, he'd only
- 13:57Speaker 1: suffer more abuse at her cruel hands.
- 14:02Speaker 6: So Penkalski is learning very quickly and very horribly that
- 14:05Speaker 6: his life is clearly worthless and meaningless and not even
- 14:09Speaker 6: worth protecting or looking out for.
- 14:12Speaker 1: Penkalski's isolation would soon drive his mindset into a darker terrain.
- 14:17Speaker 1: Unable to relate to his peers and beaten by his mother,
- 14:20Speaker 1: he would soon take out his frustrations on things that
- 14:23Speaker 1: couldn't fight back. He started to torment the animals in
- 14:29Speaker 1: the village.
- 14:30Speaker 3: He didn't like animals.
- 14:32Speaker 5: It allowed him to find something that was actually less
- 14:47Speaker 5: powerful than him.
- 14:49Speaker 2: And I think that he would have found pleasure in
- 14:52Speaker 2: inflicting pain on animals.
- 14:55Speaker 6: And it clearly suggests that he's learned to be abusive
- 14:58Speaker 6: because of the abuse he himself has suffered.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Penkalski's fascination with animal cruelty was fueled further by watching
- 15:09Speaker 1: the adults in the village behead chickens and slaughter pigs.
- 15:19Speaker 2: It's extremely unusual and very, very worrying that Penkalski would
- 15:23Speaker 2: seem to take pleasure in watching animals being killed, seeming
- 15:27Speaker 2: to find enjoyment in that. That is very, very concerning
- 15:32Speaker 2: and it's very psychopathic. So I think that this was
- 15:35Speaker 2: a very clear cue that there was something wrong with
- 15:38Speaker 2: this boy.
- 15:39Speaker 6: If he's able to torture animals and have the power
- 15:42Speaker 6: of life and death over them, then that suggests he's
- 15:46Speaker 6: learning how good it is to actually have control over something.
- 15:55Speaker 1: But his cruel behaviour towards animals wasn't learned from his mother.
- 15:59Speaker 1: So to what extent can we blame her for the
- 16:01Speaker 1: flourishing killer within the young Pinkalski? It seems that the
- 16:10Speaker 1: cruelty towards Leszek knew no bounds.
- 16:14Speaker 7: Because at this point in time, when most children are thriving,
- 16:17Speaker 7: he's just surviving, isn't he? So in terms of what
- 16:20Speaker 7: he's coming to accept as normal, he's seeing violence day in,
- 16:23Speaker 7: day out. He's experiencing it.
- 16:25Speaker 1: So.
- 16:26Speaker 7: So what he's learning in this situation are a set
- 16:28Speaker 7: of violent scripts, so particular ways to behave in certain situations.
- 16:32Speaker 7: He's taking violence to be a normal thing.
- 16:35Speaker 8: I think the most important was that his mother and grandmother,
- 16:39Speaker 8: they were attacking him, so he really wanted to take revenge.
- 16:43Speaker 1: So very quickly, at school, it became apparent to everybody
- 16:47Speaker 1: that this kid was different.
- 16:48Speaker 8: He was called a bastard, he was called stupid lesher.
- 16:52Speaker 8: And he saw that people are just laughing at him.
- 16:56Speaker 8: So he was also rejected at school.
- 16:58Speaker 1: And so his first place where he starts to exercise
- 17:01Speaker 1: violence upon.
- 17:02Speaker 8: It's probably his way of getting power. He wanted to
- 17:07Speaker 8: be in control. He didn't have empathy. He had no ethics.
- 17:11Speaker 8: And he didn't fear that those animals suffer.
- 17:15Speaker 7: Well, traditionally, animal abuse has been one of those key
- 17:18Speaker 7: behaviours that are a red flag of somebody developing into
- 17:22Speaker 7: a violent criminal.
- 17:23Speaker 1: At age 11, Pinkalski's mother is no longer able to
- 17:27Speaker 1: look after him. Social workers send him off to a
- 17:30Speaker 1: care home in Bitov. If life was bad at home,
- 17:33Speaker 1: it was about to get an awful lot worse.
- 17:35Speaker 5: Later, Penkalski would recount the abuse he suffered to a psychiatrist.
- 17:39Speaker 5: I was forced into a sexual encounter while at the
- 17:42Speaker 5: special needs school in Bytow.
- 17:44Speaker 3: Two boys assaulted me.
- 18:02Speaker 1: One held me down, while the other touched me down there.
- 18:05Speaker 2: Penkielski was a natural victim in many ways. He was
- 18:12Speaker 2: incredibly vulnerable, so he would have been singled out by
- 18:15Speaker 2: those who wanted to abuse him.
- 18:18Speaker 9: Everyone beat him up, they didn't pay attention to him.
- 18:22Speaker 9: If they paid attention to him, it was only to
- 18:24Speaker 9: use him, to cheat on him, he learned. that social
- 18:28Speaker 9: relations are filled with aggression, interest, and the best way
- 18:34Speaker 9: to satisfy their needs is to force it with force.
- 18:39Speaker 6: And to him again, this will normalize his sexual behavior
- 18:43Speaker 6: and make it appear to him that sexual interactions with
- 18:46Speaker 6: your peers are quite a normal currency.
- 18:50Speaker 1: Penkalski's traumatic early sexual experiences undoubtedly warped his view of relationships.
- 18:57Speaker 1: On reaching puberty, he develops a singular adolescent obsession, that
- 19:01Speaker 1: of finding a girlfriend. It's a fixation he'll carry on
- 19:05Speaker 1: for many years, and with tragic consequences.
- 19:10Speaker 5: When a child becomes a teenager, his interest in sex begins,
- 19:15Speaker 5: he complains to all teachers that he necessarily wants to
- 19:19Speaker 5: have a girl. Specialists said that his impulse was monstrous.
- 19:25Speaker 5: It seems that he did pick up that marriage is
- 19:27Speaker 5: somehow connected to sex.
- 19:29Speaker 3: You get married and then you.
- 19:41Speaker 2: But it seems that he did pick up that marriage
- 19:45Speaker 2: is somehow connected to sex. You get married and then
- 19:49Speaker 2: you are entitled to sex.
- 19:52Speaker 1: His desperate need for an intimate sexual relationship was, of course,
- 19:55Speaker 1: a turn-off to his female contemporaries. Pankowski's hopes were crushed
- 20:00Speaker 1: again and again as he suffered rejection after rejection from
- 20:04Speaker 1: the teenage girls in school.
- 20:06Speaker 5: Girls at school never lied to him because he was
- 20:09Speaker 5: always dirty. He smelled bad because he never liked to
- 20:14Speaker 5: wash himself, because no one taught him how to take
- 20:16Speaker 5: care of hygiene.
- 20:18Speaker 1: Despite these rejections, aged 14, he falls in love with
- 20:22Speaker 1: a disabled girl in his school.
- 20:23Speaker 9: He fell in love with a girl with a bald head.
- 20:27Speaker 9: He really wanted to have a relationship with her.
- 20:39Speaker 1: But the parents wouldn't allow the relationship. Devastated by yet
- 20:44Speaker 1: another rejection, his abnormal adolescent sex drive is now out
- 20:49Speaker 1: of control. Something he admitted to a psychiatrist many years later.
- 20:55Speaker 6: At age 15, I no longer was able to control
- 20:58Speaker 6: my sexual desires.
- 20:59Speaker 3: I became a menace and a danger.
- 21:02Speaker 1: I began harassing girls and women.
- 21:08Speaker 2: Here's somebody who clearly can't control his sexual impulses. He's
- 21:13Speaker 2: somebody whose behaviour is off the Richter scale, if you like,
- 21:17Speaker 2: and he doesn't seem able to stop himself.
- 21:24Speaker 1: Where did he get his sexual desires? Did his abusive
- 21:28Speaker 1: mother create it? or did he learn it in the
- 21:30Speaker 1: various care homes and orphanages he spent his teenage years in?
- 21:38Speaker 1: At this stage in his development, he's sent to a
- 21:40Speaker 1: state care home, and there he begins to exhibit behaviour
- 21:43Speaker 1: which is concerning, and he suffers at the hands of
- 21:47Speaker 1: others as well.
- 21:48Speaker 8: Yes, older teenagers, they take advantage of him. He was
- 21:52Speaker 8: sexually abused. They try to humiliate him in front of
- 21:56Speaker 8: other kids. So he felt even more outsider. I think
- 22:03Speaker 8: this was like the most problematic point of his life.
- 22:09Speaker 1: There's some evidence that he becomes over-sexualized in and around
- 22:12Speaker 1: this time.
- 22:13Speaker 8: Like when he was really young, he talked all the
- 22:16Speaker 8: time about sex.
- 22:17Speaker 7: He's displaying this kind of sexual inhibition at an age
- 22:21Speaker 7: where most children really aren't doing that. So this is
- 22:23Speaker 7: an incredibly confused, incredibly disrupted young boy. Whenever we look
- 22:28Speaker 7: at people who committed homicide, very often we'll see abuse
- 22:31Speaker 7: in their background. So whilst most homicide perpetrators have been abused,
- 22:35Speaker 7: not all abused children go on to harm others. So
- 22:38Speaker 7: there's something else that needs to be going on to
- 22:40Speaker 7: make that come about.
- 22:44Speaker 1: Coming up, Penkalski's perverted desires explode into rape and murder.
- 22:50Speaker 2: Penkalski's motive for murder was definitely instant sexual gratification.
- 22:55Speaker 1: Leszek Penkalski is a convicted rapist and murderer and is
- 22:59Speaker 1: considered one of the most lethal men alive in Poland today.
- 23:03Speaker 1: He's been detained in prison for over 25 years and
- 23:06Speaker 1: is considered a permanent danger to men, women and children.
- 23:11Speaker 1: Aged 18, Penkalski finished vocational school, Having trained as a bricklayer,
- 23:16Speaker 1: gets a job on a construction site. But very soon,
- 23:20Speaker 1: he gets into trouble at work.
- 23:24Speaker 5: Because Leszek's employers were often accused of him by the
- 23:30Speaker 5: people who worked with him, they said that he was
- 23:34Speaker 5: raping a man in the brigade. because he looked down
- 23:37Speaker 5: on one man who couldn't get away from him. And
- 23:41Speaker 5: this man is so impatient, so evil, that he might
- 23:46Speaker 5: get into a fight.
- 23:47Speaker 1: Pankalski was dismissed from work because of his unacceptable sexual advances.
- 23:52Speaker 9: If there is a need that he wants to satisfy,
- 23:54Speaker 9: he must satisfy it immediately. He has no self-censorship, he
- 23:58Speaker 9: does not control his behavior. He had problems with doing
- 24:01Speaker 9: any work.
- 24:07Speaker 1: At age 21, Penkalski, rejected by the adult world of work,
- 24:12Speaker 1: moves back home to his mother to live on benefits.
- 24:16Speaker 1: But here, there's no loving welcome, just more of the abuse.
- 24:20Speaker 5: He tried to maintain contact with his family, but they
- 24:26Speaker 5: never wanted contact with him. These women were still drunk,
- 24:29Speaker 5: this house was still neglected, and still no one showed
- 24:32Speaker 5: him any interest.
- 24:35Speaker 1: Then, in November 1988, even that world was snatched away
- 24:40Speaker 1: from him. His mother would die of a heart attack,
- 24:45Speaker 1: leaving him homeless and parentless. His circumstances would change, but
- 24:50Speaker 1: would his mindset?
- 24:51Speaker 5: The death of his mother didn't make a special impression
- 24:55Speaker 5: on Pękalski.
- 24:55Speaker 3: It's hard to mourn.
- 24:56Speaker 5: Someone from whom you never got feelings of love.
- 25:04Speaker 2: When Penkalski's mother dies, he's not aware of having any great,
- 25:10Speaker 2: deep feelings of sadness. And that's not surprising because, let's
- 25:14Speaker 2: face it, he was a victim of terrible abuse from
- 25:17Speaker 2: his mother, so why would he mourn her?
- 25:19Speaker 1: Following his mother's death, Penkalski would move into his uncle's
- 25:23Speaker 1: house here in the village of Osheki. However, the death
- 25:26Speaker 1: wouldn't dampen his all-consuming desire for sex and a relationship.
- 25:31Speaker 1: This would occupy his every waking hour.
- 25:34Speaker 5: Everyone who met with him emphasized that he always asked
- 25:39Speaker 5: for help to find a wife, to find a girlfriend.
- 25:41Speaker 3: He didn't want to be alone.
- 25:45Speaker 2: He would have just seen very, very simply that this
- 25:48Speaker 2: was his passport, if you liked, to sex. I think
- 25:52Speaker 2: he thought that all he had to do was really
- 25:54Speaker 2: put out the feelers and that would come back to him.
- 25:57Speaker 9: He was certainly looking for both sexual satisfaction and probably
- 26:01Speaker 9: some closeness. Looking for a partner would meet several needs.
- 26:08Speaker 1: Is he a lovesick man or just looking for the
- 26:11Speaker 1: love and affection he never received from his mother?
- 26:14Speaker 5: He started looking for a wife more intensively, at least
- 26:17Speaker 5: more often he wrote letters to marriage offices. His uncle
- 26:21Speaker 5: was angry that he was spending too much money on stamps.
- 26:27Speaker 6: Unfortunately, he's not very successful. The only responses he gets
- 26:32Speaker 6: are negative ones and rejections. And for him that must
- 26:35Speaker 6: have been an absolutely crushing disappointment.
- 26:40Speaker 5: Once Leszek got an answer from the girl, he was
- 26:43Speaker 5: extremely outraged. He carried this letter like a treasure to
- 26:49Speaker 5: his room. It turned out that he was laughed at
- 26:51Speaker 5: in this letter when the girl read that he was.
- 26:53Speaker 3: A rapist, that he was persecuted.
- 26:57Speaker 5: She wrote him, you're stupid, don't worry about writing. The
- 27:00Speaker 5: older he got, the more he realized that he had
- 27:04Speaker 5: no chance of finding women.
- 27:07Speaker 2: He must have been thinking to himself, well, what is
- 27:09Speaker 2: wrong with me? I am doing everything I can. I'm
- 27:12Speaker 2: going through all of these formal channels. And all he's
- 27:16Speaker 2: doing is setting himself up for rejection after rejection. And
- 27:21Speaker 2: this has got to be tiring, frustrating... and it's got
- 27:25Speaker 2: to be soul-destroying.
- 27:27Speaker 1: Penkalski's life then takes an unusual turn. He decides to
- 27:33Speaker 1: become a Jehovah's Witness. Why the sudden urge to join
- 27:36Speaker 1: a new religious community?
- 27:43Speaker 5: He didn't come to Jehovah's Witnesses because of his faith,
- 27:47Speaker 5: his religion.
- 27:48Speaker 3: He saw benefits for himself.
- 27:52Speaker 5: After two years with the Jehovah's Witnesses, Penkalski fails to
- 27:55Speaker 5: find any willing partners prepared to marry him.
- 28:21Speaker 1: As the years went on, his behaviour became more disturbing
- 28:25Speaker 1: and perverted. But was this the fault of his warped
- 28:28Speaker 1: mind or the result of years of abuse at the
- 28:31Speaker 1: hands of his grandmother, mother and his peers? So he
- 28:37Speaker 1: didn't have the charisma, he didn't have the good looks.
- 28:40Speaker 1: He certainly was unsuccessful with girls of his own age.
- 28:44Speaker 1: And so his talk was always of sex, of marriage.
- 28:48Speaker 1: and yet something he would never achieve.
- 28:50Speaker 7: I think it was this slow realisation that he was
- 28:53Speaker 7: never going to fit in anywhere, was he? Because his
- 28:56Speaker 7: physical development was delayed, his emotional development was disrupted. He
- 29:00Speaker 7: didn't quite know what was normal and what wasn't normal,
- 29:03Speaker 7: so it was very difficult for him to gain traction
- 29:06Speaker 7: in any part of society.
- 29:07Speaker 8: And he wasn't handsome, he wasn't smart, but somehow he
- 29:11Speaker 8: was choosing the girls or women who were very beautiful,
- 29:16Speaker 8: who were really smart, who were from the good houses.
- 29:20Speaker 8: He really wanted to.
- 29:21Speaker 3: Have a perfect wife.
- 29:23Speaker 1: Is it the sense that his frustration that he was
- 29:24Speaker 1: never likely to have a normal relationship must have left
- 29:27Speaker 1: a terrible gap.
- 29:28Speaker 3: In his life?
- 29:29Speaker 7: I think he had some incredibly unrealistic expectations. So he's
- 29:32Speaker 7: come from this family environment where his mother is the
- 29:35Speaker 7: worst possible mother that there could be. And then he
- 29:38Speaker 7: gets to know that the nuclear family is the ideal family,
- 29:42Speaker 7: mother and father, male breadwinner. So he's striving for that.
- 29:45Speaker 7: And for him, there really isn't any gray area.
- 29:48Speaker 3: It's one or the other.
- 29:49Speaker 1: So it seems quite an odd jump that he would
- 29:52Speaker 1: join the Jehovah's Witnesses.
- 29:54Speaker 8: He really wanted to be close to people in any way,
- 29:56Speaker 8: like sexual or religious or or just want to feel
- 30:00Speaker 8: warm around people. And he has only one aim. He
- 30:04Speaker 8: wants to find a wife.
- 30:07Speaker 7: It's that sense of belonging that he wants, isn't it?
- 30:09Speaker 7: And I think whenever anybody offers him that branch, that
- 30:12Speaker 7: thing to cling on to, he is going to cling
- 30:14Speaker 7: on to it with dear life. And I think the
- 30:16Speaker 7: first people to come along were people from the faith
- 30:19Speaker 7: of the Jehovah's Witnesses.
- 30:20Speaker 1: It seems to me he has a curious relationship with
- 30:23Speaker 1: his mother. He keeps being drawn back to her. But
- 30:25Speaker 1: what impact do you think his mother's death has on him?
- 30:30Speaker 8: He didn't get any love from his mother. He didn't
- 30:32Speaker 8: get any attention. He definitely hated her. So it was
- 30:36Speaker 8: like such a chaotic relationship.
- 30:39Speaker 7: I think he'd been set adrift, hadn't he? So he
- 30:41Speaker 7: had that very kind of thin thread hanging on to
- 30:44Speaker 7: his mother. But when she died, that was gone. So
- 30:48Speaker 7: what was there for him to hang on to at
- 30:50Speaker 7: this point in time?
- 30:51Speaker 8: After his mother left, he felt like he had so
- 30:55Speaker 8: much anger in him and that boiled and it was
- 31:00Speaker 8: like a bomb that needed to explode.
- 31:04Speaker 1: By 1990, Penkalski is motherless and has been soundly rejected
- 31:09Speaker 1: by every woman he has approached. Something finally snaps as
- 31:14Speaker 1: his primal need for sex becomes overwhelming.
- 31:21Speaker 5: Bernadetta was a resident of the same village where Pękalski lived.
- 31:26Speaker 5: She was coming back from her sister's, on a very
- 31:30Speaker 5: remote road.
- 31:32Speaker 4: It was evening and suddenly she found out that someone
- 31:36Speaker 4: was following her. Someone was following her, she got worried.
- 31:40Speaker 1: Pękalski has been lurking on the outskirts of the village.
- 31:44Speaker 1: He's been waiting for a victim.
- 31:45Speaker 3: He approached her.
- 31:46Speaker 5: Very quickly and attacked her. He had a golf on
- 31:50Speaker 5: his face. He threatened to kill her. Then he dragged
- 31:55Speaker 5: her into the nearby bushes and raped her.
- 31:59Speaker 3: He said he would.
- 32:04Speaker 7: Kill her.
- 32:04Speaker 4: At some point she pretended to be a dead person.
- 32:06Speaker 4: She thought about when she would find her. She recognized him.
- 32:08Speaker 4: He lived nearby. She knew him.
- 32:21Speaker 10: Penkalski is arrested for rape but gets off with a
- 32:35Speaker 10: suspended sentence.
- 32:37Speaker 1: This arrest doesn't stop him in the slightest. It's widely
- 32:41Speaker 1: believed but never proven as a result of his confessions
- 32:44Speaker 1: that Penkalski had been conducting a decade-long spree of murder
- 32:48Speaker 1: and rape across Poland.
- 32:52Speaker 5: After the rape in Bernadette, Leszek was still a free man.
- 32:55Speaker 5: He still moved around Poland, he often spent the night
- 32:59Speaker 5: in the forest, he was often hungry.
- 33:02Speaker 3: In Poland, there were.
- 33:03Speaker 5: Various murders of sexual activity in various parts of Poland.
- 33:11Speaker 5: In June 1991, it was the savage murder of 17-year-old
- 33:14Speaker 5: Sylwia that would finally bring Penkalski to public notoriety.
- 33:17Speaker 3: He'd been living rough for weeks.
- 33:39Speaker 1: Hungry and disheveled, he seeks food at a nearby shop.
- 33:45Speaker 1: There he comes into contact with Sylwia, the young shop assistant.
- 33:50Speaker 4: This poor, dirty man asked her if she could give
- 33:53Speaker 4: him something to eat.
- 33:55Speaker 9: Pękalski is a person with a very low intellect. However,
- 33:59Speaker 9: he learned to manipulate the environment a bit. He is
- 34:02Speaker 9: indeed a man.
- 34:03Speaker 5: Who arouses kindness, Sylwia agrees to bring him some food
- 34:09Speaker 5: after work.
- 34:35Speaker 1: They arrange to meet in a secluded forest clearing where
- 34:38Speaker 1: Penkalski has been sleeping.
- 34:41Speaker 4: True to form, Penkalski pesters her to be his girlfriend
- 34:44Speaker 4: and wife.
- 35:00Speaker 5: He was a coward, a coward, and he didn't like
- 35:03Speaker 5: being laughed at, and that caused aggression in him. Sylwia
- 35:06Speaker 5: died of blows to the head, and then, after her death,
- 35:08Speaker 5: he sexually abused her. In the night, Penkalski came back
- 35:28Speaker 5: to Sylwia's body several times. They were lying near the
- 35:32Speaker 5: bed where he was sleeping.
- 35:34Speaker 3: And he used those bodies again.
- 35:37Speaker 2: Penkalski's motive for murder was definitely instant sexual gratification. But
- 35:43Speaker 2: I think that this arose out of many, many factors.
- 35:46Speaker 2: Not least that he's got very, very poor impulse control.
- 35:50Speaker 2: Possibly as a result of just a feral upbringing. or
- 35:55Speaker 2: possibly as a result of early brain damage. And I
- 35:58Speaker 2: think that both of those are directly attributable to his mother.
- 36:06Speaker 1: So what set him on this path of rape and murder?
- 36:10Speaker 1: And how did his dysfunctional relationship with his mother shape
- 36:13Speaker 1: him into the ruthless killer he became? Looking at Leszek Pinkalski,
- 36:23Speaker 1: what kind of killer is he? Do you think he is?
- 36:25Speaker 7: I think he's chaotic, he's disorganised and he's a piece
- 36:30Speaker 7: of the jigsaw puzzle that is never quite going to
- 36:32Speaker 7: fit anywhere.
- 36:33Speaker 1: I think he's one of the most curious serial killers
- 36:36Speaker 1: that we've ever come across. I think you have to
- 36:38Speaker 1: have a great deal of sympathy. The most appalling childhood,
- 36:41Speaker 1: the lost affection of his mother and his grandmother gave
- 36:44Speaker 1: us the murderer he became.
- 36:46Speaker 8: I think that the mother was the most influential person
- 36:49Speaker 8: in his life and he really seeked the contact with her.
- 36:54Speaker 8: So that's why he always come back to his house.
- 36:58Speaker 8: He wanted her love. He wanted her attention.
- 37:01Speaker 7: So he's just got this constant rejection, rejection, rejection going
- 37:05Speaker 7: on all of the time.
- 37:06Speaker 8: Plus violence, plus sexual abuse. And I think he just
- 37:10Speaker 8: didn't manage to create any empathy inside him.
- 37:15Speaker 1: How significant is his childhood in the murderer and rapist
- 37:18Speaker 1: that we know he became?
- 37:19Speaker 8: I think it has such a big impact. like the
- 37:23Speaker 8: role of his mother, of his grandmother, the absence of
- 37:28Speaker 8: his father. And really, he didn't build any relationships at all.
- 37:35Speaker 8: He felt alone, he felt insecure, he felt like a stranger.
- 37:39Speaker 8: So he wanted to take revenge.
- 37:42Speaker 1: It seemed to me his childhood was a roadmap to murder.
- 37:45Speaker 7: You've got that violence and that neglect and that abuse
- 37:48Speaker 7: within the immediate family. And then you've got nobody that's
- 37:52Speaker 7: challenging that from the community. You've got social institutions which
- 37:56Speaker 7: aren't recognizing and responding to his needs in any kind
- 37:58Speaker 7: of long-term way. So you've got all of these factors
- 38:02Speaker 7: are coming together to make him what he becomes.
- 38:05Speaker 8: And actually nobody showed him how to be a very
- 38:07Speaker 8: able human being.
- 38:09Speaker 7: Right from the beginning, I think this lad had very
- 38:13Speaker 7: little chance of actually, you know, having a normal life.
- 38:17Speaker 1: Coming up, Penkalski confesses to a spree of murders and...
- 38:22Speaker 1: across Poland.
- 38:23Speaker 6: He clearly knew that what he had done was wrong
- 38:25Speaker 6: and that what he had done would outrage public decency.
- 38:30Speaker 1: Leszek Penkalski is a convicted rapist and murderer who was
- 38:33Speaker 1: dubbed by the press the vampire and the beast when
- 38:36Speaker 1: his case came to trial. He was accused of sadistic
- 38:39Speaker 1: sexual crimes against a range of victims and no-one was
- 38:42Speaker 1: apparently safe. from his twisted impulses. But mystery still remains
- 38:48Speaker 1: over where and when his grotesque desires exploded into murderous rage.
- 38:55Speaker 1: Following the murder of 17-year-old Sylwia, Penkalski is arrested and
- 38:59Speaker 1: admits to the crime without much interrogation. But Penkalski shocked
- 39:04Speaker 1: the police by confessing to more than 80 similar crimes,
- 39:08Speaker 1: many of those matching cases which had remained unsolved across
- 39:12Speaker 1: Poland for nearly a decade.
- 39:19Speaker 4: At some point, he came to the conclusion that if
- 39:22Speaker 4: he will multiply the deaths of these events, the court,
- 39:27Speaker 4: the opinion will recognize him as... He could get more
- 39:21Speaker 4: attention and more notoriety and more involvement from other human
- 39:29Speaker 4: beings by coming clean and saying there were 80 offences
- 39:33Speaker 4: he committed.
- 39:48Speaker 1: But were all the crimes Penkalski confessed to actually all his?
- 39:52Speaker 1: Or were they the fantasies of an attention seeker, desperate
- 39:55Speaker 1: for his 15 minutes of fame?
- 39:59Speaker 9: During the investigation, it turned out that some of the
- 40:01Speaker 9: crimes he was talking about were probably invented by him
- 40:05Speaker 9: or suggested by the police. It's hard for us to
- 40:08Speaker 9: say if Penkalski really killed.
- 40:11Speaker 3: More than one victim.
- 40:21Speaker 2: When Penkalski starts to confess, we don't know whether this
- 40:26Speaker 2: is actual fact or it's the ramblings of somebody who
- 40:30Speaker 2: is intellectually disabled, possibly brain damaged, and whose world is
- 40:38Speaker 2: so disordered that he might have completely lost touch with reality.
- 40:45Speaker 1: Over the next four years, police investigate Pankalski's claims. Numerous
- 40:50Speaker 1: eyewitnesses and his intimate knowledge of many of the crime
- 40:53Speaker 1: scenes lead police to believe that he could be responsible
- 40:56Speaker 1: for these self-confessed brutal murders over the previous decade.
- 41:00Speaker 5: The police took him to the local police station. He
- 41:03Speaker 5: found the place where the crime took place. He entered
- 41:06Speaker 5: the apartment and said, but today there are different walls.
- 41:14Speaker 1: But then Penkalski changed his mind and retracted his confessions
- 41:28Speaker 1: to many of the murders he'd previously claimed, throwing the
- 41:32Speaker 1: prosecution into disarray.
- 41:35Speaker 6: He clearly knew that what he had done was wrong
- 41:38Speaker 6: and that what he had done would outrage public decency.
- 41:41Speaker 6: So he very quickly learned to take that back. That
- 41:44Speaker 6: clearly was an act of self-preservation on his part.
- 41:48Speaker 1: With his confession withdrawn and the mishandling of key evidence
- 41:52Speaker 1: by the police, Penkalski is only convicted for the murder
- 41:55Speaker 1: of 17-year-old Sylvia. He receives a maximum jail term of
- 42:00Speaker 1: 25 years. Police and prosecutors still believe there's a strong
- 42:06Speaker 1: indication that he was responsible for for many of the
- 42:09Speaker 1: crimes he originally confessed.
- 42:15Speaker 3: To.
- 42:21Speaker 1: Whether it was multiple murders or just one, it seems
- 42:24Speaker 1: the roots of his depraved desires were seeded in his
- 42:27Speaker 1: childhood from neglect and the lack of maternal care.
- 42:31Speaker 2: I think it's true to say that he wouldn't have
- 42:34Speaker 2: become a killer if it hadn't have been for actions
- 42:38Speaker 2: taken by his mother.
- 42:41Speaker 6: Also, of course, what she'd started with Penkalski, the care
- 42:44Speaker 6: system finished. So almost as if she'd set him up
- 42:48Speaker 6: for a really bad childhood, unfortunately the schooling system and
- 42:52Speaker 6: the care system wasn't able to reverse the problems that
- 42:55Speaker 6: she'd already put into place in his very early developmental years.
- 43:03Speaker 1: Penkalski is a brutal murdering rapist of that there is
- 43:07Speaker 1: no doubt but is he Poland's most prolific serial sexual
- 43:11Speaker 1: killer or a mentally ill fantasist who thrives on attention
- 43:16Speaker 1: maybe he's both why did he confess to so many
- 43:23Speaker 1: murders murders he couldn't possibly have committed in some instances.
- 43:27Speaker 7: He's trying to be the centre of attention. He was
- 43:29Speaker 7: certainly never the centre of his mother's attention. So by,
- 43:34Speaker 7: you know, spurting out these big numbers of people that
- 43:37Speaker 7: he's killed, he's very much the focus of attention and
- 43:40Speaker 7: he's never had that before.
- 43:42Speaker 8: He wanted to be famous. He really enjoyed that the
- 43:46Speaker 8: press and the media were interested.
- 43:48Speaker 1: Why does he suddenly then retract his evidence? Surely if
- 43:51Speaker 1: he had the audience in the palm of his hand
- 43:53Speaker 1: with 80... Why suddenly kind of retreat and say, okay,
- 43:57Speaker 1: I only did one?
- 43:58Speaker 7: I think this guy is incredibly chaotic. He's all over
- 44:01Speaker 7: the place at this point in time. He's got all
- 44:03Speaker 7: of this attention. He's fessing up to all of these
- 44:06Speaker 7: crimes that perhaps he didn't commit. And he's probably receiving
- 44:10Speaker 7: some quite conflicted advice from the people around him. So
- 44:13Speaker 7: he's being pulled from pillar to post again, I think.
- 44:15Speaker 8: He was afraid of the death penalty. That was the
- 44:18Speaker 8: reason why he made this decision to withdraw all the confessions.
- 44:22Speaker 1: And of course... It must have caused huge chaos when
- 44:25Speaker 1: he withdrew that confession.
- 44:27Speaker 3: Exactly.
- 44:27Speaker 8: It was like chaos, completely chaos in the court. And
- 44:32Speaker 8: I think this was like one of the main reasons
- 44:35Speaker 8: why he was convicted only for one murder.
- 44:39Speaker 1: He's shortly due for potential release.
- 44:43Speaker 7: It's frightening, isn't it, to think that, you know, potentially
- 44:46Speaker 7: all of the killings that he may have carried out,
- 44:48Speaker 7: you know, if they were for real, is going to
- 44:51Speaker 7: be walking the streets one day.
- 44:52Speaker 1: So do you think this is a killer in waiting?
- 44:55Speaker 7: I think this is somebody who really struggles to have
- 44:57Speaker 7: normal social interaction with other people. Perhaps in prison he's
- 45:01Speaker 7: found some sort of stability, some sort of security, and
- 45:04Speaker 7: I think he'd be quite keen not to lose that.
- 45:07Speaker 7: So even if he was released, I think he'd re-offend
- 45:09Speaker 7: simply just to go back inside.
- 45:11Speaker 1: To what extent can we agree that he is in
- 45:15Speaker 1: fact a serial killer and most likely committed more than
- 45:18Speaker 1: one murder?
- 45:19Speaker 7: I think we've got the pieces in the puzzle of
- 45:21Speaker 7: a serial killer here, but we haven't got them all
- 45:24Speaker 7: put together. So we've got somebody who has got the
- 45:27Speaker 7: capacity to have done this more than once. But the
- 45:29Speaker 7: evidence is few and far between.
- 45:32Speaker 8: He definitely fantasized about more murders and he wanted to
- 45:36Speaker 8: kill more people. But we will never have an answer
- 45:41Speaker 8: if he did it.
- 45:47Speaker 1: No one can truly be certain if Pinkowski has committed
- 45:49Speaker 1: as many murders as he claimed, but with his release imminent,
- 45:54Speaker 1: it's certain that law enforcement will be monitoring his behaviour
- 45:57Speaker 1: and movements for many years to come.