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Kaydence Platero, Haskell Indian Nations University · The Red Banner Race Report

• 0:01
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to the Red Banner Race Report Podcast, where we dive into the mindset, miles, and moments that make up NAIA cross-country and track and field.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_01: Our guest today is Cadence Platero, a cross-country and track athlete from Haskell Indian Nations University.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_01: She recently ran her PR of 2139 at the Billy Mills Classic, taking second place and helping her team claim the team title.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_01: She was named the Continental Athletic Conference Runner of the Week for her efforts.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_01: Cadence also won the 1500-meter CH championship on the track this past spring, and she's a basketball player as well, with two sports often intersecting to give her a very busy academic and athletic life.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: Haskell Indian Nation University was originally founded in 1884 and is an accredited institution of higher education located in Lawrence, Kansas.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: It is operated by the Bureau of Indian Education, a unit of the U.S.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_01: Department of the Interior, in partial fulfillment of Federal Indian Trust responsibility.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_01: All students are enrolled members of over 140 federally recognized American Indian tribes or Alaska Native villages or their eligible descendants.
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  SPEAKER_01: Haskell is a uniquely indigenous learning environment, a gathering place for scholars and athletes from across Indian country and beyond.
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  SPEAKER_01: Their curriculum emphasizes issues and perspectives of indigenous peoples, communities, and nations.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_01: We will chat with Cadence about her life at Haskell, how she balances more than one collegiate sport, and the unique collegiate environment she calls home.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: Well, welcome to the podcast and congrats on an amazing race recently, right?
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: You took second at the Billy Mills Classic.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_01: You earned the Continental Athletic Conference Runner of the Week honors, and your team ended up winning the beat.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_01: So let's let's chat about that a little bit.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_01: Did you go into that race feeling like something big was going to happen, or did you kind of catch yourself by surprise?
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I think I not only caught myself by surprise, but several of not only my peers, but my teammates.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um I was originally not planning on racing in Jersey.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_00: It was kind of just supposed to be like a shakeout run, just putting my feet back in the water because I actually suffered a concussion about three weeks ago in basketball.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_00: So it was my first week of going back to practice.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_00: And my coach was just like, you know, he's like, you have training under your belt, you know the course.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, You've been here.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, I'd like to put you out there.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, You can.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_00: So about 20 minutes for the start, I was like, okay, you know, like I'll take the jersey, we'll go for it.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I we went through the first mile all together collectively as a pack.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_00: It was really nice.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_00: And afterwards, it was just like, okay, I can turn it up.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_00: And so after that, it was really just running off of instinct.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I found myself finishing second, and it was just it was really nice.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the quote about your race that I saw from your coach on Instagram was, and I quote, Cadence raced stoically and commandingly as she went directly to the front of the field.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's always fulfilling to see a runner's hard work visibly pay off.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, that's a pretty big compliment to what you must be doing.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_01: So, what do you think have been the biggest pieces of improvement for you to see that happen this season?
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: So, for me, I think it's been consistency and also just my effort.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I've been with Coach Mays for about three years now.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I did have a different coach freshman year, and so changing from my freshman to my sophomore year, the training style did change.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I wasn't a big cross training person per se.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: I was someone who like had to run on the ground, be on like the dirt for like seven out of seven days of the week.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so cross training was a really big thing, but it's helped me a lot.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like I have stronger track days now.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_00: But um, I feel like the biggest things have been consistency and just making sure my effort is there all the time.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well, let's backtrack a little bit to when did you first begin running?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like how old were you?
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_01: How did you get involved in that?
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_00: I was, I believe, eight years old.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_00: I was at a recreational race.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_00: My uh younger brother had just learned how to walk.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_00: And my mom was with me and my older sister, and she's like, Go run 200 yards and come back.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: I started running.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know when I stopped looking back because it was a 5k course, and I got to the end of it.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_00: I got a water cup and I was like, Wow, like, where's my brother?
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: I came back and my mom was very upset.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, Where have you been?
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_01: You're like, I was winning, Rob.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just I I just started running and I remember like that next Monday I was our elementary cross-country practice because my mom was like, Hey, like, you you really enjoyed this, like you're gonna go do it.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_00: And that was really my first couple steps.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_00: I was about in second, second, third grade, maybe.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, I guess it was meant to be, huh?
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just I love telling that story because I'm like, I just started running and at some point I just had to turn around, but I just I kept running, I suppose.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like when kids first begin running, especially if they're really young, they do not overthink it.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_01: They just do it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they don't think about oh my pace or oh my time or oh, you know, I I have to be this person.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_01: They just do it.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: And uh yeah, somewhere along the way, I think we get a little more mental about running than maybe we need to be.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it was I remember that feeling.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_00: I remember exactly like what the course looked like.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_00: I remember my sister was the one that had to chase after me to turn me around.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_01: Well, here you are today.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_01: So I guess it all worked out.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, when you decided to attend college, what were the main factors that helped you decide that you wanted to come to Haskell?
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_00: For me, I knew I wanted to get out of New Mexico, which is where I'm originally from.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I wanted somewhere like different, I wanted somewhere where I could see things.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: And Haskell actually, I um met our head coach one-on-one.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: He came to my high school, was willing to give me uh cross country and track together.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_00: He told me that he thought I could find space on a basketball team.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_00: And after like looking, I didn't know a whole lot about house, like Haskell.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_00: It was actually my men's cross-country coach that was like, hey, like, I think this school would be a good fit for you.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, What are you thinking about college?
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I really college wasn't really in the cards for me at the time either.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_00: I was more leaning towards the military route.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_00: And so for my coach to come in to be like, hey, like, I think you could find success here.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: I know like what you do.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, I've thought about basketball.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, I'm willing to give you both sports.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, time for both sports, and he's like, Can you meet me halfway?
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_00: And so for him to come to me and just make me feel comfortable enough.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_00: And once I learned that Haskell was an all like um native school, it made me feel like I was gonna be at a home away from home.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_00: And so that was a big thing for me.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_00: And once I got here, like it's just been nothing but good vibes, it's been great to me.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_00: The people here are really nice.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's like their support everywhere in the community, and so that's really what not only brought me to Haskell, but it's kept me at Haskell.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it sounds like an amazing environment.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_01: So that's my next question for you.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_01: What makes your team dynamic so special?
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think one of the biggest things about our tight like team dynamics, and this is across all like programs that I've been across, is just everybody knows like where like back in history, we all came from somewhere.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody knows that we are like you have different tribes intermingling, and so every now and then you get um different opinions, but at the core base of it, it's like we are all still a family.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_00: We've all had to overcome so much to be where we are.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's like with our history and just like our ancestry, it's just a really big community to where everyone's gonna support each other because we're all moving towards the big goal of building future leaders up tomorrow.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love that.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_01: And I know you have a vast representation of tribes.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_01: I think I read, is it like 150 different tribes?
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yeah, somewhere around that number.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so yeah, so you have a great representation of all kinds of different diversity and different backgrounds that come together and yeah, get to kind of be in the same space and share ideas and perspectives.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_01: Now, you did mention that you are also a basketball player, and I don't think many cross country runners in the NAIA can say that they're dual sporting, which is a pretty tough thing to do even in high school.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_01: So let's talk about that.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_01: Like, how do you fit all that in into your day?
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_01: And then I guess like what's tougher?
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_01: Is it basketball or is it cross country?
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_00: It is definitely a challenge and one that as I've gotten like through my years here at high school, it's gotten harder, I won't lie.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_00: But um coming out of high school, I did six sports.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_00: So coming to college and choosing three, I was like, okay, like this is what I asked for, this is what I'm here for, like, this is what I'm gonna take care of.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: Typically, my day will start at six o'clock, regardless of what I'm doing.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_00: I will either have a morning track practice or I will have a um morning basketball practice.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: I have lists at some point in the midday.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: I also have a bike double, and then typically I'll finish off with a team basketball practice or a late cross-country practice.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so I'm gonna guess that you do not have a lot of downtime.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_00: I would say I don't have a lot of downtime, but I do make the most of what I do get.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're efficient with your time.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_01: Well, so I'm just trying to think through how you fit all this in.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_01: So are you currently in your basketball season right now as well?
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I am.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: I actually have a game tomorrow.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: We'll be leaving and we'll be heading to North Dakota.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll play Friday night and Saturday, and I will come back Sunday for my long run, ready to go, room to in at nine in the morning.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_01: Do you ever have to choose, like, okay, I can play a game or I can go race, but I can't do both because they conflict time-wise.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_00: Thankfully, right now, no, I haven't.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, for the most part, our games have not been on the same days as race days.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we also uh just had the cross, like our last cross-country meet of the season, which was the Billy Mills.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_00: And so we'll be going in the conference, which will be here back at Billy Mills course.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but that'll be on November 6th, I believe.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I thankfully will not have a game that day.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: So so far everything is working out nice and dandy.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I feel like cross-country ends before for basketball would kind of get into the thick of the winter months, I guess.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: And some season some parts of the season will definitely overlap, like preseason and like the postseason, but for the most part, I'm able to juggle it all.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_01: Well, more power to you because that's amazing.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_01: That is quite a commitment.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_01: Well, since you have a lot of sports background and you're involved in many different parts of campus, are there any specific runners or leaders that are maybe even just from your home community, from Haskell itself or the broader community out in the global world that inspire you?
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: I think there are a couple that stick out to me, um, especially back home.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_00: One of my biggest ones is gonna be our they're actually siblings.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um they were, it's Miss Uh Virginia Biall, and she was actually my junior high school coach.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: Our junior, uh, yeah, junior no, not junior, middle school coach, yes.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_00: And it would be her brother, uh Herbert Biall.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_00: They are both really good about not only training athletes to be athletically prepared, but also to be mentally and just like scholastically prepared.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_00: They're constantly making sure that you know what college life is gonna look like.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, they're constantly making sure that you're getting the life lessons that you can get through sport.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_00: And so they're two that have been really big for me.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I know that they advocate for the current athletes that they have now to go and pursue like a collegiate career.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, or even if it's like they're both instructors as well.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like they're really good like with helping us find colleges that we want to do if we don't want to continue athletics.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: And so they're two that for me have been really big influences on my life, and just knowing that I can take all this knowledge that I'm learning right now back to my community and share it for the next generation.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_01: That's amazing.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: I love that mindset of wanting to return and give back.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what is your tribe, if you don't mind me asking?
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm part of the Navajo Nation of Shipwreck, New Mexico, and so we are the Dinec, also known as the People.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_00: And so that is my tribe that I'm affiliated with.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_01: Well, what is one piece of advice that you wish somebody had given you earlier in your running career?
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_01: And then thinking back on that, what advice would you give to someone else who maybe hasn't started yet?
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: I think the piece of advice that I wish I was given is that it's okay to feel tired and it's okay to take time for yourself.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I came into college like super motivated, super excited, but once I like hit that wall and once I had a really hard practice, it was really hard for me to keep wanting to bring motivation into my next couple of days.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think if I had somebody who told me, like, hey, like, it's okay to not feel 100% every single day, like you're gonna have good, you're gonna have bad days, but you just gotta keep showing up.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: You just gotta keep like wanting it, um, just because that motivation may or may not always be there.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like some days you are gonna have to say, you know, like I need a day off.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_00: I need to collect myself and just get back into it the next day.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: And knowing that you have to work hard even when you don't feel like it, that is a big piece of athletics.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: Well, are you more of a track repeat person or are you more of a long run kind of person?
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: I originally when I started, I was more of a long distance person, but I have come to find that I really love some track repeats.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: I just like the feeling of speed.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: I like getting fast and just being able to mash out rep real quick, get some rest and go and do it all over again.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: I just that's that feeling just gets me going.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: I was the same way when I was running.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I loved cross country, but I like to get out on the track and you know, get some speed going.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, absolutely.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: So, what is your go-to pre-rease meal?
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_01: What will you eat, you know, if you have a big race coming up the next day?
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm a really big pasta person, and so I feel like you can never go wrong with some good old homemade spaghetti.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but one of my favorite types of pasta that I usually go to here in Lawrence is a zucchini and squash pasta.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's got like zucchini, you use panini, and it's got some fake meat in it because I don't eat a whole lot of real meat anymore.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's got some cheese in it, and so that's one of my favorite things to eat.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: I can't remember how I came across it, but it's been a really good one for me.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: I love eating it, and I put a couple of my friends on it.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_01: So Well, that's always the sign of something tasty if other people want to eat it.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: Well, are you cooking for yourself or are you eating at like your campus dining hall?
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody knows that if Cadence is in the kitchen, then you can come grab a bowl.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: Duly noted.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so what's on your feet right now?
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: What's your favorite shoe to be training in?
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm currently in the Brooks Glycerin Flex.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's one of my favorite shoes.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like you can never really go wrong with a glycerin.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, Brooks have just always I've been running in Brooks since I was in middle school.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: They're just one of my top shoes right now.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: We have a local running store where I live and they're a Brooks sponsored store.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: So Oh wow.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's one of my favorites too.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_01: Uh well, what do you put on your headphones if you're gonna choose to listen to some music either before a race or you know, if you're training?
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: So one of my favorite, like, well, for me it's a lot of pop, but one of my favorites that I have to listen to before I go to like a race, before I go to a game, or just before I get into like anything athletic-wise, I have to listen to Common Doctor Love, I kissed.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's one of the older songs, but it's one of my favorite songs, and I just have to hear it before I do anything.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of runners have habits or traditions that that tracks.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: So I I'm not sure how much free time you have based on your schedule and what you've said, but if you are not at practice or you're not at class or you're not studying, what is your favorite thing to do on campus with your free time?
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: So I am allergic to every type of tree nut.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: And so one of my favorite things to do is to bake.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I typically bake everything from scratch simply because anything that's usually processed, I can't eat.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: And so baking consumes a lot of my time, but so does binge watching um slashers.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, are you baking while binge watching?
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_01: Typically, yes.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's an interesting combo.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: So, what would be one of your favorite slasher flicks?
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: I love the original screen.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: I was gonna guess that.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, have you seen?
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if this counts as a slasher, probably not, but have you seen um Obsessed?
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: I have.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so I I'm not a scary movie person.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: I have not seen it.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm I'm the kind of person who knows my own sensitivity to things.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, some people are like, this is entertaining, this is fun.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'm the one who'll be like, I can't sleep because that really scared me.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't I don't watch them.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: But my son, who's also a college student, he went and saw it and he came home and he said, Mom, that is the most disturbing thing I have ever seen, and I can't unsee it.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_01: And he wished he wouldn't have gone and seen it.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_01: So did you like it or was it like too much?
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: There, there are some movies where they will live with you for the next couple of days.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: That is definitely one of the movies where it's like you're just doing something in your daily life, and you're like, you get flashbacks and you stop, you have to rethink everything.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: What 100% I think he's right, obsessed is a very tough, tough, tough watch.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I read a review because my my 14-year-old daughter wanted to go, and I was like, absolutely not.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: But I read this review by a movie critic who does this for a living and has seen, you know, thousands of movies.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: And he even said in his review, I cannot unsee it, and I wish I could.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: So when she's like, Can I go?
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, no, listen to what this guy said.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it definitely lives with me, like still to this day.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I did see that Google they always post um their Halloween search results that people search for, and they said that whatever that the wish willow or whatever it was called, that's one of the most searched things of 2026.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't doubt it will make a comment.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's an older movie when I think about it.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's been out a while.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: So okay.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: So my last question for you is if you could pick anyone from the past in history, they don't have to be living anymore.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: They could be, you know, from a thousand years ago, a hundred years ago, or you could pick someone from today, the present day, and you could take them and you could run anywhere in the world.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: Who would you pick to run with and where would you want to go?
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: So for me, I actually lost my father before my height of my like running career.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: And so unfortunately, I never got to just go on a run with him.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: I played a couple softball games, but if I were to do, if I were to be able to run with anybody, it would be with my late father, JL Potero, and it would just be on his home course in Crown Point, New Mexico.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, that's a great choice.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's that's a very personal reason that you want to run with somebody.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: So speaking of running, what's next on your schedule for you?
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: Is it conference you said?
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, it will be conference at the beginning of November, and it'll be back here on our home course.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: And so hopefully, um, we're looking to get a little higher on that placement board this year.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, you guys are doing great.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: Your your guys' team is also breaking some new ground as well, I see.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: So that's exciting.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: They broke the national rankings this year, like up, and it's just it's a really nice feeling to know, like just seeing the program for what it's been my freshman year and coming in up this like as an upperclassman.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's just really nice to see the growth.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's nice to see new faces.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I have all I call them my little dump, my little ducklings.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: I got my team in here, and so they'll be in my room sometimes, like, hey, like, you got duct tape, just feel like a little mama hand, try to keep them all together.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: But it's definitely, I really enjoy Haskell.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: They've done a lot for me, and I'm just I'm super excited.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that everything that we're stepping into now has definitely been like it's something we've worked hard for, and I feel like it's something we've almost completely earned.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you so much for coming on the podcast and taking time out of your crazy busy life and talking with me.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: And I love getting to know the athletes from the NAIA.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_01: So I wish you the best for what's next and hope that everything goes well in your basketball season too.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, thank you so much for having me.
• 22:08
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• 22:11
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• 22:15
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