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55KRC Wednesday Show - Ken Kober, Jack Atherton, AFP, Massie, Judge Napolitano · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Dive yesterday, of course with retired Lieutenant colonel getting an
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Speaker 1: update in the war situation question mark swirling around. Well,
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Speaker 1: he's in line with Senator Ran Paul on why do
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Speaker 1: we need to even be involved in her on in
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Speaker 1: terms of you know, regime change or whatever, fighting for freedom.
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Speaker 1: I understand that to a certain degree. You got the
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Speaker 1: whole legal issues which are the genesis of Senator Paul's criticism. Look,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna need congressional approval on that, a conversation we've
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Speaker 1: all had many times at connection with the wage the
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Speaker 1: bothered with that pesky constitution Updates on that one as well.
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Speaker 1: Most notably, I'm kind of confused about where we are
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Speaker 1: in so far as lines in the sands. Most notably
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Speaker 1: since yesterday the Trump was apparently warned about them hanging
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Speaker 1: the Iranian administration hanging protesters. Now there's also been reports
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Speaker 1: of them shooting protesters, but there seems to be some
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Speaker 1: kind of distinction between hanging and shooting and what our
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Speaker 1: reaction might be on that. I'll get into that in
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Speaker 1: a second. Inside Scoop with Bright Part News financial editor
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Speaker 1: John Carney on some really good news. Price of gasoline
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Speaker 1: down and some numbers. In so far as the economy
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Speaker 1: looking good, I suppose it depends on where you look.
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Speaker 1: Very confusing world we live in when you can go
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Speaker 1: to one website and read one thing where everything's all,
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Speaker 1: you know, rainbows and unicorn, and then flip over to
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Speaker 1: another page talking about the exact same information where we're
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Speaker 1: all going to die. Kind of like the reporting on
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Speaker 1: the whole ice situation where that woman got shot in
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Speaker 1: the face for trying to run over an ice agent
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Speaker 1: doing his job. Some people's were it was that Scott
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Speaker 1: Adams said, you know, we're looking at life as if
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Speaker 1: we're viewing two separate movies. Everybody's in the same theater.
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Speaker 1: It just depends on your interpretation of what the actual
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Speaker 1: video in front of you is saying or reflecting. So,
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Speaker 1: and that problem is only going to get worse with
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Speaker 1: artificial intelligence. And I'm sure I haven't seen any, but
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Speaker 1: I guarantee you as sure as I'm sitting here, someone
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Speaker 1: around out there is talking about how whatever footage you're watching,
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Speaker 1: depending upon which side of the ledger you're on, it
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Speaker 1: was an appropriate thing for that officer to protect his
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Speaker 1: life by shooting her, or it was not. It was
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Speaker 1: unjustifiably it was murder. You're arguing over the same footage,
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Speaker 1: but someone's going to be arguing no, no, no, no no.
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Speaker 1: The one you're relying on is fake. You can see
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Speaker 1: that coming ten to fifteen, twenty miles away with AI. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: Before we get to a word about affordability, we may
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Speaker 1: hear from Chuck Ingram. I don't know, but I woke
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Speaker 1: up to find out that northbound I seventy one is
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Speaker 1: closed because of a semi crash with a fuel spill
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Speaker 1: light Ole Tunnel. Yeah, great place to get shut down
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Speaker 1: northbound I seventy one. Are the all northbound lanes closed
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Speaker 1: the lt Ole Tunnel, Dude with semi crash and the
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Speaker 1: fuel spill. This was from a reporting an hour ago,
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Speaker 1: so I have no way of knowing right now what's
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Speaker 1: on going on on the ground. Didn't have time to
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Speaker 1: check the cameras. That's why we have Chuck there. Any
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Speaker 1: problems in Chuck has a moment in time, we may
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Speaker 1: hear from him next. But pivoting over to this ongoing
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Speaker 1: screaming and yelling from the left, of course, they have
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Speaker 1: very few arguments as we approach November. Obamacare subsidies and
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Speaker 1: the price of healthcare exacerbated by the reality of Obamacare.
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Speaker 1: That's one, of course, the whole ICE. Do you agree
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Speaker 1: with cracking down on illegal immigrants, most notably the most
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Speaker 1: dangerous and criminal elements among within our community, or are
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Speaker 1: you against ICE and them doing their job. That's an issue.
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Speaker 1: And then affordability, it's a difficult one to get around.
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Speaker 1: Democrats seem to be getting away with the argument about affordability,
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Speaker 1: ignoring the fact that they're the ones that pumped in
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Speaker 1: what eight trillion additional dollars into the American accountant under
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Speaker 1: the Biden administration, massive inflationary reality brought about by that.
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Speaker 1: Of course, something's completely out of political hands. How can
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Speaker 1: you control the price of the eggs when the bird
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Speaker 1: flu swirling around and all our chickens are dying. So
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Speaker 1: it depends on which direction you're looking at. Some things
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Speaker 1: within the control of government, other things not. Piv it
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Speaker 1: over to California. Great illustration of insane prices and insane
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Speaker 1: inflationary realities not brought about by natural economic forces, Like, oh,
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Speaker 1: my god, the price of eggs has gone through the
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Speaker 1: roof because of bird flu. No, that's not the case.
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Speaker 1: Now you can make an argument that, oh my god,
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Speaker 1: the price of eggs have gone through the roof because
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Speaker 1: the shipping costs associated with the price of fuel have
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Speaker 1: gone through the roof. Then you might point to a
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Speaker 1: political reality. Politics and environmental laws and regulations have brought
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Speaker 1: about an increase in the price of gasoline. That's a reality.
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Speaker 1: It could be dealt with move away from the green agenda,
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Speaker 1: and the price would come down because we wouldn't have
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Speaker 1: such an aversion to using fossil fuel. So, you know,
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Speaker 1: some things within the control of political or politicians, others not.
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Speaker 1: And Gavin Newsom is waking up to this reality in California.
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Speaker 1: He is in a well, I think, a state of panic.
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Speaker 1: They're planning on pushing forward with his ballot initiative that
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Speaker 1: would take five percent of the gross overall assets of
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Speaker 1: billionaires one time, one time only. Sure, it is five
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Speaker 1: percent of everything that they own, which means many of
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Speaker 1: them would have to liquidate their assets in order to
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Speaker 1: pay this outrageous one time charge. And Newsom realizes this
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Speaker 1: is going to drive people out of the state, is
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Speaker 1: waking up to the reality that it's already driven people
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Speaker 1: out of the state. Last week, knew Some delivered his
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Speaker 1: final State of the Union address. He said this, we
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Speaker 1: don't run from change, We drive it. We are providing
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Speaker 1: that we are proving rather that inclusive democracy works. We
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Speaker 1: are proving that expanding human rights works. We are proving
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Speaker 1: that illegal immigration I'm sorry, he said legal. We are
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Speaker 1: proving that legal immigration works. And we're proving that a
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Speaker 1: progressive tax structure works, not Mike clinging onto that last one.
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Speaker 1: More fundamentally, we could talk about the other things he
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Speaker 1: thinks he's proving, but just that proving and a progressive
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Speaker 1: tax structure works well. Progressive tax structure might include the
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Speaker 1: idea of taxing billionaires and taking five percent of everything
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Speaker 1: that they own in the form of a tax. Quite progressive,
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Speaker 1: that one. It's part of the class warfare. They're billionaires,
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Speaker 1: they can afford it. We need the money here in California.
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Speaker 1: We got a budget deficit to deal with, and they do.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty substantial one too, which is only going to
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Speaker 1: get worse. And I think that's primarily the problem with
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Speaker 1: Whykevin Newsom is now arguing against this five percent. Well
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Speaker 1: theft the States weigh in his ballot initiative that would
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Speaker 1: oppose the five percent tax on wealth of residents with
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Speaker 1: a net worth of a billion or more. We already
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Speaker 1: see Silicon Valley leaders taken off Google co founder Sergey
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Speaker 1: Brinn and Larry Page. Both of them reportedly appear to
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Speaker 1: be reducing in their California footprint. That's courting The New
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Speaker 1: York Times. Co founder of PayPal, Peter Thiel already opened
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Speaker 1: an office in Miami for his investment firm, David sa
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Speaker 1: Billionaire venture capitalists relocated from San Francisco to Austin, Texas.
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Speaker 1: That happened late last year. A guy named Chamath bear
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Speaker 1: with me, Paala happy tiya ya ta ya close enough anyway,
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Speaker 1: he's quoted by The Washington Times Tech investor is the
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Speaker 1: total wealth of California that has left in the past month,
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Speaker 1: a trillion dollars in total wealth walking out of the state,
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Speaker 1: saying we had two trillion dollars worth of billionaire's wealth
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Speaker 1: just a few weeks ago. Now fifty percent of that
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Speaker 1: wealth has gone, taking their income tax revenue, sales tax revenue,
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Speaker 1: real estate tax revenue, and all their staffs and their
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Speaker 1: salaries and income taxes with them. In other words, by
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Speaker 1: starting this ill conceived attempt at an asset tax, California's
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Speaker 1: budget deficit will explode. What's going on with the current
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Speaker 1: state of California in terms of their budgeting shortfalls this
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Speaker 1: year of three to eighteen billion dollars. California millionaires pay
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Speaker 1: thirteen point three percent of their income to the state
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Speaker 1: every year, and with them gone, the middle class is
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Speaker 1: going to have to foot the bill. You don't have
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Speaker 1: the wealthy to get the money from folks. Isn't this
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Speaker 1: sort of a logical exercise? I mean, couldn't have you
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Speaker 1: seen this and talked about it coming from miles away?
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Speaker 1: Why did people leave high tax, high regulatory states during
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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen Why because they got to work from home.
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Speaker 1: Home can be anywhere. Do you want to live in
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Speaker 1: a home with outrageous regulations and income tax or do
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Speaker 1: you want to live in a state that doesn't have
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Speaker 1: any Welcome to Texas and Florida becoming the destination states
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Speaker 1: for all of these very wealthy people when they found
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Speaker 1: out they didn't have to work at work and could
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Speaker 1: work from home. This problem, this, this upcoming five percent
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Speaker 1: tax on billionaires, is exacerbating that, at least among the
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Speaker 1: very wealthy class. California's middle class apparently also fleeing. Still.
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Speaker 1: Last year, California ranked the first among the states in
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Speaker 1: terms of outbound migration Texas number one, with inbound Florida
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Speaker 1: number two. Cost doing business already too high in California,
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Speaker 1: noting that this proposed billionaire tax, with them leaving and
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Speaker 1: taking their tax revenue with them, would increase the taxes
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Speaker 1: on the middle class to maintain this ridiculous, outrageous money
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Speaker 1: stealing machine that is the state of the state of California.
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Speaker 1: They continue to pay the highest prices for a gallon
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Speaker 1: of gas. Now, going back to my economic reality, we
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Speaker 1: out here, we're down in the middle of two dollars,
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Speaker 1: some as low as two dollars and thirty cents. I
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Speaker 1: saw two dollars and nine cents here. Locally, California average
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Speaker 1: four dollars and twenty two to more than five dollars.
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Speaker 1: Why is that that's a regulatory reality? A dollar twenty
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Speaker 1: six of every single gallon the Californias paced to fees
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Speaker 1: and costs associated with environmental programs. That's a self created problem.
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Speaker 1: That is a throat cutting problem. If you think the
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Speaker 1: environment and get rid of carbon dioxide is a real thing,
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Speaker 1: then you enact these programs. It's sort of limited failing
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Speaker 1: to appreciate the globe is one big, giant, singular pocket
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Speaker 1: of air, which means the Chinese, the Indians, the Turkey,
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Speaker 1: and folks maybe in Texas and other states that don't
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Speaker 1: have such stringent regulatory rules to drive the price of
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Speaker 1: gasoline up are still belching out all this evil carbon dioxide,
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Speaker 1: negating any effort that the Californians do, making it a
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Speaker 1: complete exercise in stupidity and futility. Do they ever talk
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Speaker 1: about that now? So twenty seven percent of the total
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Speaker 1: cost per gallon going to environmental crap just in the
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Speaker 1: state of California. Welcome to why their gas is so expensive?
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Speaker 1: California climate change agenda leading to refinery closures. On top
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Speaker 1: of it, two plants going offline soon. Twenty percent of
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Speaker 1: the capacity in California gas refining gone because of not
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Speaker 1: market forces, fake market forces created by environmental regulations and
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Speaker 1: chasing your zero carbon emission tail. Home ownership also extraordinarily
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Speaker 1: expensive in California. Right, California home prices double the national average.
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Speaker 1: Why might that be, Well, you got supply and demand problems.
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Speaker 1: They won't let you rebuild. Say, after the Palisades and
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Speaker 1: Eating fires. One year ago, thirteen thousand homes destroyed, Fewer
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Speaker 1: than twelve have been rebuilt. It was a year ago.
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Speaker 1: Fewer than fourteen percent of the homes that got burned
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Speaker 1: into Palisades fire have received permits to rebuild, So you
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Speaker 1: got twelve actually built. Fourteen percent of the thirteen thousand
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Speaker 1: got permits to rebuild, and the groundbreaking hasn't begun yet
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Speaker 1: on the rebuilding effort. That's a supply demand problem right there.
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Speaker 1: California homeowners renters spend more than fifty percent gross monthly
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Speaker 1: income on housing compared with only thirty percent in other states.
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Speaker 1: Must have at least a six figure into income there.
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Speaker 1: That's ford even a modest home. So you got the
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Speaker 1: housing shortage, lengthy permitting process, mostly environmentally related. I might
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Speaker 1: not complex building codes. You can't have natural gas, you
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Speaker 1: can't have this, you can't have that. You must conform
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Speaker 1: oh Man connected communities to a specific plan. These are unnatural,
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Speaker 1: non related to natural economic forces. They've cut their own throats.
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Speaker 1: Gavin newsom pleating with the residents of California to reject
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Speaker 1: the very tax that he at one point I believe
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Speaker 1: was in favor of, because people have an opportunity to
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Speaker 1: get the hell out. Chuck Ingram with a quick update
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Speaker 1: on the situation at I seventy one in the Little Tunnel.
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Speaker 1: In a moment, have you a rand new kitchen?
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Speaker 2: There nothing to it.
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Speaker 1: Overnight with isolated snowshowers tomorrow mostly clouds twenty six for
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Speaker 1: the high overnight Little seventeen with clouds and the chance
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Speaker 1: of isolated flories and and mostly cloudie on Friday, and
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Speaker 1: an opportunity for some isolated snow showers thirty six for
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Speaker 1: the high Friday. Right now, it's forty five degrees. Look
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Speaker 1: about KERCBE Talk station. Chuck Ingram is here. He is
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Speaker 1: in studio. It's not time for first traffic yet, but
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get a first traffic because I woke up.
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Speaker 1: Chuck Ingram. Welcome to the studio and happy Wednesday to you.
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Speaker 1: Northbound I seventy one closed due to a semi crash
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Speaker 1: right at the light Old Tunnel, apparently involving a fuel spill.
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Speaker 1: I thought it happened recently, since the article I read
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Speaker 1: was only about an hour long when I got here. Okay,
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Speaker 1: apparently it happened last night late.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was in the eleven o'clock hour round eleven
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Speaker 3: thirty last night. So Cruz have been working all night
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Speaker 3: long to get this overturned semi back up on its wheels,
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Speaker 3: which they just did in the last few minutes. So
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Speaker 3: I saw a picture for Modot that has that truck
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Speaker 3: backing up, and it looks like they're going to be
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Speaker 3: able to tow out of the way without a major problem.
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Speaker 3: The wild card in that is the fuel spill that
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Speaker 3: you brought up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I don't know how long that will take to clean up,
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Speaker 3: to make has met happy and everything to be able
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Speaker 3: to go through the tunnel again, so that may take
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Speaker 3: some time.
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Speaker 1: Sure, Well, the details on the fuel spill were very sparse.
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Speaker 1: It just said there was a fuel spill. But you
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Speaker 1: came in and he said the truck was carrying papers,
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Speaker 1: so it wasn't a tanker truck like we have to
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Speaker 1: deal with a massive tanker truck like spill. It's talking
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Speaker 1: about the diesel fuel used in the pool. Yeah, yeah, right,
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Speaker 1: so maybe several hundred gallons as opposed to thousands of gallons.
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Speaker 3: Correct, There's nothing like that to deal with this morning.
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Speaker 3: So hopefully that will mean that before your show is done,
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Speaker 3: we're gonna have the highway open again. What I'm really
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Speaker 3: surprised was so far as the backup isn't bad. So
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Speaker 3: everybody overnight hours, I.
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Speaker 1: Mean they paid attention overnight, yes, exactly, because the detour
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Speaker 1: is would be the easiest, would be northbound seventy five
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Speaker 1: right up to the lateral and then go eastbound and
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Speaker 1: continue whichever way you have to go on seventy one.
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Speaker 3: But I was really surprised there's not even a delay
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Speaker 3: coming out of Covington across the brand Spence right now
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Speaker 3: because of it, So like, okay, well maybe we are
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Speaker 3: going to have this out of the way rather quickly.
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Speaker 1: Well let's hope it is out of the way. Otherwise
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I'm looking at the clock as
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Speaker 1: twenty five after five. I say give it a minute,
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Speaker 1: and that backup is probably going to materialize. That could
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Speaker 1: very well be all right, Well steer around it seventy
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Speaker 1: five or take seventy five north of the lateral and
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Speaker 1: then choose which direction you need to go. Simple solution.
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Speaker 1: It's not nearly as complicated as closing down the Fourth
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Speaker 1: Street bridge, Newport.
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Speaker 3: Nothing like that. You won't you won't need a tank
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Speaker 3: bus to get around and real quick.
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Speaker 1: Do you get any update of out of how that's
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Speaker 1: been going, my friends? It appears to be going fairly
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Speaker 1: well good. There was a lot of publicity for that one.
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Speaker 1: They're set it down, so I think that really helped
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Speaker 1: there too. All right, Chuck Ingram, were looking forward to
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Speaker 1: your traffic reports throughout the morning, and of course at
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Speaker 1: eight thirty your special introduction for Judge and Paulatano. The
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Speaker 1: Judge is back on this morning. Can't wait and another
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Speaker 1: day think up something, probably another day. My listeners aren't
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Speaker 1: going to be really pleased with him, but I'm getting
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Speaker 1: used to that. Chuck. God, bless you, sir, Thank you.
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Speaker 1: We'll be hearing from you later in the morning. Look
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Speaker 1: forward to it. It's five twenty five right now, fifty
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Speaker 1: Either way, I'd be right back fifty five KRC once
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Speaker 1: you get Chuck back on. It's supposed to be nine
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Speaker 1: on Monday. Oh good, thanks Joe, real quick before I
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Speaker 1: go to the phones. Yes, Tom is on the line
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Speaker 1: two to three talk since FOP President Ken Kober is
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Speaker 1: going to join the program in an hour. On the
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Speaker 1: comment on the topic, everyone gets one point four to
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Speaker 1: five million. Yes, the city has entered into get another
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Speaker 1: settlement agreement. One point four to five million. This is
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Speaker 1: a decade after the police shot and killed a North
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Speaker 1: north Side resident by the name of Kwan Davier Hicks,
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Speaker 1: who was twenty two when the SINN showed up at
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Speaker 1: an apartment June nineteenth at twenty fifteen to investigate a report
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Speaker 1: of menacing. Caller told them Hicks had threatened to kill
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Speaker 1: a couple after they accused him of stealing from their home.
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Speaker 1: The encounter ended with an officer fatally shooting Hicks in
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Speaker 1: the chest. City Manager Cheryl Long yesterday's press release. While
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Speaker 1: balancing the needs and resources of our law department and
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Speaker 1: the minimization of financial risk that's funny, and the legal
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Speaker 1: options available to us, I've concluded, I have concluded that
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Speaker 1: this difficult decision is nevertheless the best one. I can't
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Speaker 1: repeat that one, Joe, that pesky FCC getting in the
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Speaker 1: way of me passing along your editorial comments to the
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Speaker 1: listening audience. Settlement says the cities you mean from liability
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Speaker 1: emits no liability means no wrongdoing for the police, and
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Speaker 1: it is subject to council approval or appropriation. Seth Walls
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Speaker 1: already on record saying yeah, I'll sign on to it,
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Speaker 1: I'll prove it. Went the Hicks apartment to have vestigate
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Speaker 1: the report of this menacing. Officers found what they believed
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Speaker 1: to be Hicks in the North Side apartment. They entered
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Speaker 1: without a warrant. Now there are some exceptions to the
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Speaker 1: warrant requirement, and I imagine that's what might be argued
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Speaker 1: should they take this thing to trial. Early officer Doris Scott.
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Speaker 1: Doris Scott and a couple of other officers went up
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Speaker 1: the stairs. They reached the second floor landing, they heard
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Speaker 1: someone descend from another stairway behind a nearby door. Staoid
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Speaker 1: door opened and Scott saw the barrel of a rifle
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Speaker 1: appointed at her face. According to the wrongful death lawsuit,
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Speaker 1: neither Scott nor more recall any of the officers announcing
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Speaker 1: their presidents or identify our presidents, or identifying themselves to
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Speaker 1: the police as police. Inside police reported that one of
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Speaker 1: the officers grabbed the barrel of the what found out
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Speaker 1: to be twenty two caliber rifle and shot Hicks in
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Speaker 1: the chest. So then the next year, Hicks family fouled
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Speaker 1: a federal lawsuit charging the police with the use of
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Speaker 1: excessive force creating a dangerous situation that lawsuit, initially dismissed
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Speaker 1: by a federal judge. However, back in twenty twenty sixth
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Speaker 1: US Circuit Court of Appeals to the city may be
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Speaker 1: liable for the officers violating hicks constitutional rights. Peals Court
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Speaker 1: determined that the officers had qualified immunity related that the
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Speaker 1: officers had qualified immunity related to the claim of unlawful
21:26
Speaker 1: or denied. The officers had qualified immunity. So if you're
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Speaker 1: doing something that is not within your qualified immunity, in
21:32
Speaker 1: other words, violating civil rights, and you can be held
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Speaker 1: accountable as a police officer for your actions. So I
21:38
Speaker 1: suppose it was the entering without a warrant. However, were
21:41
Speaker 1: their exegen circumstances which required the police to enter the
21:44
Speaker 1: room and go after this guy in the absence of
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Speaker 1: a warrant. They're not going to make that argument. They're
21:50
Speaker 1: writing a check for one point four to five million,
21:52
Speaker 1: So get in line, everybody sue the city. Tom, Thanks
21:56
Speaker 1: for bearing with me, Welcome to the morning show.
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Speaker 4: I got a little, uh paper cut while I was
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Speaker 4: working on the convention center.
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Speaker 1: Can I say the city said, well, actually, they would
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Speaker 1: argue that you're barred by workers compensation so file a
22:08
Speaker 1: workers comclaim Tom sucks to be you.
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Speaker 5: I know.
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Speaker 4: So you know, I'm going to go out on a
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Speaker 4: limb here and I'm going to say that the vast
22:16
Speaker 4: majority of Joe Strecker's commentary cannot be repeated on the air.
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Speaker 1: On unfairly label. Then, but we'll say a sizable quantity, well,
22:28
Speaker 1: you know, in a sizeable quantity of what I say
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Speaker 1: to Joe, whether I'm using the mute button or I talked. Yeah,
22:34
Speaker 1: I got a button, a talkback, which means I can
22:36
Speaker 1: say something to Joe Strecker while I'm here in the
22:38
Speaker 1: middle of a sentence like now, and I can go
22:41
Speaker 1: and say hey, Joe, and you don't know it because
22:43
Speaker 1: it hit the talkback button. Yeah, this happens frequently.
22:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, the the marvels of modern technology. So, speaking of
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Speaker 4: the convention Center, I'm hearing rumors that there's some complaints
22:54
Speaker 4: about it and people curious about the price and what
22:58
Speaker 4: we got in return for it. Of course, you know
23:00
Speaker 4: that's that's pretty much true for any project where government
23:03
Speaker 4: money is dumped into it, right, So you're going to
23:06
Speaker 4: pay a lot more than you you probably normally would.
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Speaker 1: But I mean remodeling the remodeling the said building. Apparently
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Speaker 1: that's a seven hundred million dollar cost overrun at the.
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Speaker 4: Very lead, and I don't even know what building you're
23:17
Speaker 4: talking about, but at the very lead. So yeah, I mean,
23:20
Speaker 4: for all intentsive purposes, it was a glorified facelift. I
23:23
Speaker 4: mean maybe it was needed. I don't know that was
23:25
Speaker 4: actually working on. That was the first time I'd ever
23:27
Speaker 4: been in that place. So it's it's pretty nice looking,
23:30
Speaker 4: but I have I can't really compare it because, like
23:33
Speaker 4: I said, I've never been in there before. But anyway,
23:36
Speaker 4: I saw it last weekend from the outside, it looked
23:38
Speaker 4: pretty nice. So switching over to our buddy Gavin Newsom,
23:44
Speaker 4: who is just a flat out liar, that statement you
23:47
Speaker 4: read was just lie after lie after lie. No, we
23:50
Speaker 4: are not proving that this stuff works. I know, you
23:52
Speaker 4: are actually proving that it doesn't work exactly. You're you're yeah,
23:56
Speaker 4: and by the way, you did not use legal immigration.
24:01
Speaker 4: You were you were whatever doing illegal immigration. You you
24:05
Speaker 4: were incentivizing it illegal immigrants. Oh, you're you're in this country,
24:10
Speaker 4: you're in this state illegally. I'll here's some money. That's
24:13
Speaker 4: not proving that legal immigration works. You knucklehead, You're a liar.
24:17
Speaker 4: You are exacerbating, as you use the word a lot,
24:21
Speaker 4: you are making the problem worse. You are creating the
24:24
Speaker 4: problem for or for one thing, and then you're just
24:27
Speaker 4: making it worse. And then you're like, oh, we need
24:29
Speaker 4: everybody's money to solve the problem.
24:31
Speaker 5: No you don't.
24:32
Speaker 4: You're just going to continue to make it worse. Why
24:35
Speaker 4: after lie after lie, And that's what Democrats do. That's
24:38
Speaker 4: that's how they roll, That's how they get in office.
24:41
Speaker 4: They lie to you, that's how they stay in office.
24:44
Speaker 4: They continue to lie to you. And then all of
24:45
Speaker 4: a sudden, oh my gosh, well look at the situation
24:48
Speaker 4: we're in. Yeah, you know why because all you people
24:51
Speaker 4: out there keep voting for Democrats. This is why we're
24:55
Speaker 4: in the trouble we're in. Please stop, don't vote Democrat.
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Speaker 1: Have a great you do the same time. And if
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Speaker 1: you look at the the the welfare still I'll use
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Speaker 1: the word welfare, go ahead criticize me. The welfare state
25:08
Speaker 1: of justice Somali community in Minnesota. I mean, the statistics
25:11
Speaker 1: have been fore and widespread. A tremendous percentage of the overall,
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Speaker 1: not all local peng with a broad brother saying, every
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Speaker 1: Somali person in Minnesota is on welfare, but the vast
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Speaker 1: majority of them are recipients of some of the multiple
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Speaker 1: government programs that take handouts. Is that the recipe for
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Speaker 1: success putting more people on the taxpayer dollar doll No,
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Speaker 1: it's not. This is the increase in population and a
25:41
Speaker 1: greater expense of the taxpayers of the state. And I
25:43
Speaker 1: would argue the federal government five thirty six. Right now,
25:46
Speaker 1: if you five kr CD talk station, get in touch
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Speaker 1: with the Chimney Care Fireplace in Stove locally owner and
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Speaker 1: kr C the talk station, shout out to my submarine
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Speaker 1: or friend Curbage Mike, who let me know about fifteen
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Speaker 1: to ten minutes ago that the little tunnel was back open,
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Speaker 1: said he had read it, he heard it elsewhere. So
26:08
Speaker 1: there you go. Confirmation. You should be in decent shape
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Speaker 1: by seventy one north. No more wreck to clean up
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Speaker 1: in the little tunnel, absent phone calls, which we are, well,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to deal it to the local stories. I'm
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Speaker 1: sorry the stack is stupid. Forget what I'm diving on.
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Speaker 6: Into as this tradition.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Joe, I appreciate the vote of confidence. Marion County, Florida.
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Speaker 6: As this tradition.
26:37
Speaker 1: News release survey surveillance footage showing mom in a Marion
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Speaker 1: County dere Shriff's deputy shot inside his cruiser. Incident happened
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Speaker 1: when deputy stopped Rihanna Harden, twenty two years old, on
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Speaker 1: highway for forty one, initially arrested for possession of methan fetamine, marijuana,
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Speaker 1: drug paraphernalia, and providing a false idea, as well as
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Speaker 1: driving with a suspended life. While being transported to the
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Speaker 1: Marion County jail, Harden, who was handcuffed in the back
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Speaker 1: seat of the patrol vehicle, managed to slip one hand
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Speaker 1: out of her cuffs, opened up the plexiglass partition between
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Speaker 1: her and the deputy corner to the rest STAFFI David.
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Speaker 1: Footage apparently from inside the car shows Hardened removing her
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Speaker 1: visor and covering the rear seat camera before producing a
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Speaker 1: handgun concealed in her clothing and then firing multiple shots
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Speaker 1: through the partition. Why are you doing that? Because the
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Speaker 1: deputy apparently didn't sufficiently search her before putting the back
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Speaker 1: of the cruiser. My first reaction, Deputy returned fire. The
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Speaker 1: vehicle eventually crashed into a utility bowl. Both hardened and
27:42
Speaker 1: the deputy sustained non life threatening injuries, taking an area hospitals.
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Speaker 1: The corner of the Sheriff's office revolver with six spent
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Speaker 1: shell casings werecovered at the scene near where Harden was
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Speaker 1: removed from the vehicle. She ended up receiving an additional
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Speaker 1: charge no kidding of attempted first degree murder of the
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Speaker 1: law enforcement officer. Idiots doing idiot things because there idio is. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know that's double idiots. I hate to be critical
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Speaker 1: law enforcement officers, but she was able to conceal conceal
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Speaker 1: a revolver on her person. Joe, any questions about where
28:19
Speaker 1: she might have been stowing that thing? You think prison
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Speaker 1: perse what's all right? I end this segment there. We
28:35
Speaker 1: got a couple of more coming up. You can chime
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Speaker 1: in if you want. Uh first cover Seedy Talk station.
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Speaker 1: It's five fifty here fifty five Kara City Talk Station.
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Speaker 1: Very Happy Wednesday to been remiss and not mentioning beyond
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Speaker 1: can cob or FLP President Joint program at six thirty.
28:53
Speaker 1: Everybody gets one point four to five million dollar check
28:56
Speaker 1: if they sue the City. Big Picture with Jack Adaman
28:59
Speaker 1: coming up at seven zero I filed by Donvan and
29:01
Speaker 1: Eil The Return of Americans for Prosperity DONVD and Eil
29:03
Speaker 1: calling out the Democrats for using the affordability rhetoric, which
29:07
Speaker 1: I pointed out in connection with my comments about California.
29:10
Speaker 1: You know, affordability can be dealt with if you don't
29:13
Speaker 1: put economic regulations and rules and limitations and pursue green
29:18
Speaker 1: agenda and let the market forces work themselves out. But
29:21
Speaker 1: we can't have that in California. Congressman Thomas Massey, where
29:25
Speaker 1: are the Epstein documents? Great question? The latest anti Massy
29:30
Speaker 1: Trump tweet he's after Congressman Massey government shut down. We're
29:33
Speaker 1: going to get one of those. Plus Venezuela in Iran,
29:36
Speaker 1: plus Judge Enninapolitanos. Certainly irking many of my listeners today.
29:41
Speaker 1: Let's go to see what mister cribbage Mike's got my
29:44
Speaker 1: submarine or friend, welcome back. It's always great to hear
29:46
Speaker 1: from you.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Brian.
29:48
Speaker 7: I guess Chuck shitting and jinks himself by no backups
29:51
Speaker 7: due to light a ton of and now we got
29:53
Speaker 7: on because.
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Speaker 2: Of the weather.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay for at least it's not an overturned semi absolutely.
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Speaker 7: Hey, you know there's all different ways.
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Speaker 1: That's a stretch tracker.
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Speaker 2: Come on, hey, he gave me a good tip.
30:09
Speaker 7: Give him a break.
30:13
Speaker 1: Ah See, we can go to a down depending on
30:16
Speaker 1: what you say.
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Speaker 7: Well, this is a stack of stupid segment, So I
30:20
Speaker 7: guess it's all all is fair in love and war.
30:24
Speaker 7: There is a lot of way for politicians to get elected,
30:26
Speaker 7: and you would hope the best way is for what
30:28
Speaker 7: they can do to their area and their constituents. But
30:31
Speaker 7: clearly what's been on display here is of late in
30:33
Speaker 7: Minnesota as far as locking down that voting block, by
30:36
Speaker 7: all the fraud that everybody just turned a blind eye to,
30:40
Speaker 7: and what we have going on here locally now to
30:42
Speaker 7: lock down a greater voting block within Hamilton County basically,
30:47
Speaker 7: especially what Signal ninety nine spouse last Friday, what mayor
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Speaker 7: emeritus Iris Rolie is being able to run this city
30:56
Speaker 7: with an iron grip, all the money that is flowing
30:59
Speaker 7: out there, you know, basically with her contract, her T
31:03
Speaker 7: shirt deal that her husband got her, what her son
31:07
Speaker 7: got you know. And that's just what we know. Who
31:10
Speaker 7: knows what else is going on. And now these payouts,
31:13
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't even want to dare use the
31:15
Speaker 7: R word, but it is almost like borderline reparations, you know,
31:19
Speaker 7: as far as let's let's take these things to trial
31:22
Speaker 7: and let the chips fall where they may, because if
31:24
Speaker 7: we already know the money is going to go out
31:25
Speaker 7: the door, I'll take my chance in court.
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Speaker 2: And if that's what.
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Speaker 7: They're hanging her hat on with this latest one point
31:31
Speaker 7: four or five billion and a million, excuse me. And
31:33
Speaker 7: if we have any doubt that the other gentleman is
31:36
Speaker 7: probably going to get his payday, let alone on top
31:38
Speaker 7: of the other paydays that are coming for the police
31:40
Speaker 7: chief and the fire chief. When you look at the
31:43
Speaker 7: track record when they were up for election, there should
31:45
Speaker 7: have been no way in the world that anybody on
31:48
Speaker 7: council or that mayor should have been re elected. But
31:51
Speaker 7: they already got locked down a greater majority of the
31:54
Speaker 7: voting block because of all the money that is pouring
31:57
Speaker 7: out of Plump Street. And when I could not I
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Speaker 7: almost fell off my chair. When you had Charlie lukean
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Speaker 7: on the end of a day in my sixty nine
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Speaker 7: and a half years a walk in this arch when
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Speaker 7: have you ever heard a politician or a group of
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Speaker 7: politicians that had a stack of money and it's not
32:11
Speaker 7: spending it.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, remember there was spent. And then, in
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Speaker 1: the words of the city managers spokes fashion the person,
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Speaker 1: there's money allocated.
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Speaker 7: You know, they don't know what to do with it.
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Speaker 2: We're incompetenty or you know.
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Speaker 1: The greater response from my perspective would have been, you know,
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Speaker 1: we have allocated, and here are the programs and the
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Speaker 1: amount of allocation we have assigned to them, so we
32:34
Speaker 1: at least would know what programs that are that are
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Speaker 1: under consideration. The fact that the money's allocated only means
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Speaker 1: that it hasn't been in and they haven't entered into
32:41
Speaker 1: a formal contract and shovels haven't broken the ground. The
32:44
Speaker 1: money has not been spent, the allocations have not been
32:48
Speaker 1: formally approved yet. But I I'm curious to know what
32:51
Speaker 1: specifically it is they're going to that they're going to
32:53
Speaker 1: prioritize and prioritize in terms of the money that's already
32:56
Speaker 1: come in. Big mystery swirling around around that one.
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Speaker 7: I bet you that's a very small list, because this
33:01
Speaker 7: goes back to the Obama administration. Look how many shovel
33:04
Speaker 7: ready jobs that were there out there? How much of
33:07
Speaker 7: the broadband Internet was supposed to be done? What about
33:10
Speaker 7: the high speed rail train in California. It's easy to say,
33:13
Speaker 7: put words out, but they can't produce anything because it's
33:17
Speaker 7: the I word, not independent and competent. And as I
33:20
Speaker 7: mentioned before the last time I called, when you asked
33:23
Speaker 7: my ten years of working the elections here in Claremont County,
33:27
Speaker 7: I have one thousand percent faith in our election system
33:31
Speaker 7: here in Ohio, everything that's been set up, all the
33:33
Speaker 7: stop measures, even though that we have voting months, so
33:37
Speaker 7: Independents and Republicans in Hamilton County, this is just as
33:41
Speaker 7: much on you when I see turnout like that that
33:44
Speaker 7: you cannot complain. We have the ability, it's all right
33:48
Speaker 7: in front of you. If you don't vote, this is
33:51
Speaker 7: what you get. To quote a famous Christopher Smithman, elections
33:55
Speaker 7: have consequences.
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Speaker 1: Amen. Couldn't set it better myself. So I appreciate my
33:59
Speaker 1: listeners calling in and chiming in and letting us know
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Speaker 1: how they feel. And I certainly love hearing from you.
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Speaker 1: Cribbage Mike, Look for are you going to be there?
34:05
Speaker 1: February fourth at the ron ZERUS for a cribbage game bockstation.
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Speaker 1: It's six six at five KRC the talk station. Very
34:15
Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday to you all right, Thomas and VII. You
34:18
Speaker 1: stick around all morning, get some great guests, as is
34:20
Speaker 1: the case typically here in the morning show. From my perspective, anyway,
34:23
Speaker 1: thanks to Joe Strecker for lining them up. Executive producer
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Speaker 1: Joe Strecker Ken Kober at the bottom of the hour,
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Speaker 1: apparently everyone in the city's going to get money from
34:31
Speaker 1: the city. Just sue them. You got an officer involved issue,
34:34
Speaker 1: Just sue the city one point four to five million.
34:36
Speaker 1: The most recent settlement they've appear to be getting ready
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Speaker 1: to enter into. A council needs to approve it, and
34:42
Speaker 1: at least the one council person on record has said yes,
34:44
Speaker 1: I'm going to approve it. Big Picture with Jack adad
34:46
Speaker 1: and coming up at seven oh five, The Price of Purity,
34:51
Speaker 1: followed by Donald and Neil AFP Americans for Prosperity calling
34:54
Speaker 1: up the Democrats for using affordability rhetoric. Going back to
34:58
Speaker 1: my comments about you know and you impact affordability or
35:02
Speaker 1: are there affordability problems brought about by government intervention? And
35:06
Speaker 1: I would argue it's the latter is the biggest problem.
35:09
Speaker 1: You can't control necessarily the price of eggs, but you
35:12
Speaker 1: can have a tremendous impact on the price of old
35:15
Speaker 1: I don't know, refining gasoline for example. Anyhow, Donovan at
35:18
Speaker 1: seven thirty two hours eight oh five with Congressman Thomas Massey.
35:22
Speaker 1: Where in the hell are the Epstein files? I'm curious
35:25
Speaker 1: latest on the anti Massey Trump tweet. Trump going after
35:28
Speaker 1: Congressman Massy yet again. The government's shut down heading our way,
35:32
Speaker 1: this time apparently over funding for ICE. Yeah, would we
35:38
Speaker 1: be okay with shutting the government down because the Democrats
35:42
Speaker 1: want to defund ICE? That's the thing, plus Venezuela and
35:47
Speaker 1: Iran if we can get it all in before we
35:49
Speaker 1: get the judge in Inapolitano and assault of the Republic again,
35:53
Speaker 1: having another go at Donald Trump. Just the heads up
35:55
Speaker 1: on that one. I know it, you know it, Donald Trump.
35:57
Speaker 1: No huge fan of or Nepolton. I'm a huge fan
36:00
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump. He's got specific reasons for that, and
36:04
Speaker 1: that's what we're going to talk about him with. You
36:06
Speaker 1: can field agree to feel free to agree or disagree
36:09
Speaker 1: as long as the juices of thought are stirred, which
36:14
Speaker 1: is and what was that? Joe? Oh yeah, And don't
36:19
Speaker 1: take it out on Joe, Lord Almighty. Joe has no
36:24
Speaker 1: control over what the judge does. Neither do I, and
36:27
Speaker 1: I always pointing out to bring him on. As controversial
36:29
Speaker 1: as you may be, from time to time, it gets
36:31
Speaker 1: the intellectual juices flowing. Things that make you go hmm,
36:35
Speaker 1: things that sharpen your argument to the contrary. That's the
36:40
Speaker 1: great thing about having someone on who doesn't agree with you.
36:42
Speaker 1: This is why I comment all the time. Yeah, we'll
36:44
Speaker 1: take democrats on. We'll take candidates for Democrat offices. Go ahead,
36:48
Speaker 1: bring it on. Silence usually is deafening with the request
36:52
Speaker 1: being sent out. So there's your rundown for today. Let's
36:54
Speaker 1: head it over to the phones real quick here New Hampshire, Gary,
36:56
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Morning Show. Happy Wednesday, sir, Hey,
37:00
Speaker 1: good morning, Brian.
37:01
Speaker 2: Hey.
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Speaker 8: I want to say, first.
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Speaker 2: Of all, you're in my prayer, thanks man.
37:08
Speaker 1: You know tomorrow I start the treatments back up, and
37:11
Speaker 1: I presume you're talking about like cancer treatments. And I
37:13
Speaker 1: try to keep people involved because I want people to
37:16
Speaker 1: take care of their health and health and it's amazing.
37:18
Speaker 1: What you go into the doctor's office thinking is a
37:21
Speaker 1: minor thing can turn out to be cancer, which was
37:23
Speaker 1: my case. So you know, so I got five years
37:26
Speaker 1: out of the last treatment, total remission, and now they
37:29
Speaker 1: the liftotes pop back up. So tomorrow I find out, Gary,
37:32
Speaker 1: I got to sit there in the treatment room. Are
37:34
Speaker 1: you ready? Six hours? Six? So I'm not thrilled about that,
37:41
Speaker 1: but you know what, I recognize it could be a
37:44
Speaker 1: lot worse. If I was in some other country. I
37:46
Speaker 1: wouldn't even have the availability of the cancer agents they're
37:49
Speaker 1: going to be giving me, and I probably wouldn't even
37:51
Speaker 1: able to get an appointment for a doctor in the
37:53
Speaker 1: first place. So you know, things are good in spite
37:55
Speaker 1: of the fact that things may be a bit gloomy.
37:57
Speaker 1: So I will deal with it. Thank you for the
37:59
Speaker 1: well wish is Gary, I really appreciate it.
38:03
Speaker 8: Well, we really love you, and I think this is
38:06
Speaker 8: evident of your character to show a strong outcome or a.
38:13
Speaker 2: Strong outlook on this.
38:15
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
38:15
Speaker 2: Man.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, And I love critics, Mike, but I'm going to
38:20
Speaker 8: agree disagree with one thing. He said that most of
38:25
Speaker 8: our politicians are intentionally incompetent or they're incompetent. I would
38:31
Speaker 8: I would go with most of our politicians who are
38:34
Speaker 8: intentionally corrupt, they know what they're doing. Nobody's going to
38:39
Speaker 8: hold them account by the time you get them into court,
38:44
Speaker 8: if you ever get them into court, most of them
38:47
Speaker 8: will likely settle out of court, you know, ninety percent
38:52
Speaker 8: of them. I know there was a couple of characters
38:54
Speaker 8: up in Columbus. They got sentenced for the nuclear power
38:59
Speaker 8: the House years ago. Yeah, but I think if we
39:03
Speaker 8: look at the vast majority, but giving away of all
39:07
Speaker 8: the money to the Browns, to giving away money to
39:14
Speaker 8: you know, subtle lawsuits, I think there's even a lot
39:17
Speaker 8: of grief that goes around there. You know, you're one
39:20
Speaker 8: point five you know, one point four five million dollars.
39:23
Speaker 8: I'm sure there's money that gets sloshed around with that.
39:26
Speaker 8: With lawyer fees, oh you can.
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Speaker 1: You can expect the lawyers got a third of that.
39:31
Speaker 1: It's typical in a contingency fee agreement that the lawyers
39:34
Speaker 1: will get roughly a third. It could be even more
39:36
Speaker 1: in some cases, sometimes a little bit less. But yeah,
39:40
Speaker 1: you can haggle over that. When you retain a plaintiffs
39:42
Speaker 1: lawyer over the contingency fee, but you can usually count
39:46
Speaker 1: on one third, so they get one third of the
39:48
Speaker 1: one point four to five million. Not bad.
39:51
Speaker 8: I would even say you got to wonder if the
39:55
Speaker 8: law firm or the law firm didn't give money to
39:58
Speaker 8: another law firm to get to politicians' campaign You know,
40:05
Speaker 8: things have a way of being laundered like that.
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Speaker 1: Well there's not even wandering and you have sure Gary.
40:11
Speaker 1: Quite often law firms will you know, report their campaign
40:14
Speaker 1: contributions because they're all goetty to do. So you give
40:16
Speaker 1: to like the Republican Party, they have to note who
40:20
Speaker 1: gave the money and how much it is because there
40:22
Speaker 1: are caps on that, and it's been widely reported for
40:25
Speaker 1: years and years. You know, ex law firm, you know,
40:28
Speaker 1: donated primarily to Democrats. You know ninety percent gave money
40:31
Speaker 1: to the Democrat Party and ten percent to the other.
40:34
Speaker 1: So yeah, you can see the political bias in law
40:36
Speaker 1: firms like you can with corporate donations and other donations.
40:40
Speaker 8: Well, I'm saying that that you know, if you if
40:44
Speaker 8: you if I represent client B getting one point four
40:48
Speaker 8: or five million, or if I represent the Browns giving
40:52
Speaker 8: getting six hundred million dollars off of politicians, Right, I
40:57
Speaker 8: don't want to dirty my hands, so I give it
40:59
Speaker 8: to a third party who gives it to uh, you know,
41:04
Speaker 8: either the Democrat or Republican candidate.
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Speaker 1: Yep, legally that's all about.
41:11
Speaker 8: Yeah, things like that happen all the time. So I'm
41:14
Speaker 8: saying there's intentional corruption. Whether you know, you get sued
41:19
Speaker 8: as the city, you as a politician win. You don't
41:22
Speaker 8: complete a project, you as a politician win. As long
41:26
Speaker 8: as you keep winning your constituents block that votes for you,
41:30
Speaker 8: nothing else matters.
41:31
Speaker 1: Well, all, right, Elections have consequences. Is the more people
41:35
Speaker 1: paid attention to the stuff they the minutia where they
41:37
Speaker 1: would argue that you and I follow because we're we
41:39
Speaker 1: dwellers and we care about things like this, the more
41:42
Speaker 1: people would not vote for the status qual the election
41:45
Speaker 1: in downtown Cincinnati, for example, maybe more people than one
41:48
Speaker 1: out of four registered voters would have showed up and
41:51
Speaker 1: cast their vote in opposition to the provol regime. No
41:54
Speaker 1: they didn't.
41:55
Speaker 8: Well yeah, well, you know, if you get strong blocks
41:59
Speaker 8: of the commun unity like the Urban League or the
42:02
Speaker 8: Business administration, if you're giving money to them, they're going
42:06
Speaker 8: to go out and tell their voters, hey, vote for this.
42:09
Speaker 1: That's exactly that's Iris Rollie right there. By all accounts
42:14
Speaker 1: from people of all political spikes strifes, she holds a
42:17
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of power over whoever the Iris roly acolytes are,
42:21
Speaker 1: and there are apparently a lot of them in the
42:23
Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati. They look up to her. They'll do
42:26
Speaker 1: what she says, and of course when she says vote
42:28
Speaker 1: for the current administration, apparently they're going to do that,
42:30
Speaker 1: and they'll bother to show up to cast their vote
42:32
Speaker 1: along those lines. But yeah, that happens every single day.
42:36
Speaker 8: Well not only that, then you've got lobbyists. I mean,
42:39
Speaker 8: people have lobbyists on top of that. You know, they're
42:42
Speaker 8: paid for their constituents to influence politicians. You know, the
42:48
Speaker 8: vast majority of people who go out and vote, right,
42:51
Speaker 8: they don't have any lobbyists that looks out after them.
42:55
Speaker 8: They just like they'll probably show up like city council
43:00
Speaker 8: and they'll vote for no more than five Okay, here's
43:03
Speaker 8: one through five, and then they move on here. Somebody
43:06
Speaker 8: told me to vote, Okay, that's what it is. They don't.
43:09
Speaker 8: The only thing they want to be is left alone
43:12
Speaker 8: so that they can continue life. However it is they
43:17
Speaker 8: want to do. They don't want to take time to
43:19
Speaker 8: see all the money that's being funneled in their healthcare
43:23
Speaker 8: everything else.
43:24
Speaker 1: That goes back to the low information voter. They have
43:27
Speaker 1: no time for politics generally, let alone the specifics of
43:31
Speaker 1: any given thing that you and I might not call
43:33
Speaker 1: them the farius or say is unethical, immoral, or in
43:36
Speaker 1: inappropriate allocation tax payer dollars. They don't care about that.
43:40
Speaker 1: They're not looking at the one point four million dollars
43:43
Speaker 1: settlement that we're just getting ready to enter and into.
43:44
Speaker 1: They don't care about what Ryan Hinton's family is doing
43:47
Speaker 1: with regard to the city manager and talking about settlement.
43:50
Speaker 1: They don't even know what happens. You know, you're lucky
43:52
Speaker 1: if you find reporting on it locally, and then you
43:54
Speaker 1: have to bother to read the local reporting on it
43:57
Speaker 1: and then think about it in the context of is
44:00
Speaker 1: this the right thing to do or not? That whole
44:02
Speaker 1: exercise is going to take. Oh, I don't know, maybe
44:04
Speaker 1: ten or fifteen minutes. Um, I don't have time for that.
44:08
Speaker 1: I got another Netflix episode to watch, or I've got
44:10
Speaker 1: a family to deal with. I gotta go to work
44:12
Speaker 1: on my second job. We could go on for hours
44:14
Speaker 1: and all the reasons people don't want to pay attention
44:16
Speaker 1: to politics, or they've just reached the conclusion that it
44:19
Speaker 1: is a colossal exercise in futility, which I think the
44:22
Speaker 1: point the residents of the city of Cincinnati have gotten to.
44:24
Speaker 1: If they're conservative, if they're independent, and they aren't far leftists,
44:28
Speaker 1: they're like, well, screw it. This Cincinnati city has gone
44:31
Speaker 1: all blue. The Democrats are just going to get elected
44:34
Speaker 1: any way, regardless of how I cast my vote. Screw it.
44:36
Speaker 1: I'm not showing up. I'm going back to my Netflix binge.
44:41
Speaker 1: There you go. Gary. We need to get people to
44:44
Speaker 1: pay more attention and cast smarter votes. Six seventeen fifty
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Speaker 1: It's six twenty two here kersee de talk station. A
45:01
Speaker 1: very happy Wednesday, FLP President of Ken kober Or coming
45:05
Speaker 1: up next. Yeah, we have yet another settlement agreement recommended
45:08
Speaker 1: by the city manager. One point four to five million
45:11
Speaker 1: going to the family of Kwandavier Hicks, who was killed
45:14
Speaker 1: by since a police officers is following a report of
45:18
Speaker 1: a menacing investigation. He threatened to kill some people. They
45:22
Speaker 1: encountered him. They ultimately fatally shot him in the chest.
45:25
Speaker 1: Question seems to be a possible civil rights violation because
45:28
Speaker 1: they didn't have a warrant. The officers found out what
45:31
Speaker 1: they believed to be hicks North Side apartment. They did
45:34
Speaker 1: enter without a warrant, where a warrant, where they were
45:36
Speaker 1: confronted with a guy with a rifle. They saw the
45:38
Speaker 1: barrel of the rifle pointed at her face and of
45:41
Speaker 1: course that's when the deadly shot was fired. So a
45:44
Speaker 1: lawsuit initially dismissed by a federal judge, but the Sixth
45:47
Speaker 1: Circuit Court of Appeals said the city may be liable
45:49
Speaker 1: for the officer violating his constitutional rights, with the appeals
45:54
Speaker 1: court saying that, well, the officer doesn't have qualified immunity
45:57
Speaker 1: related to unlawful entry. Words that will be extra constitutional.
46:02
Speaker 1: They broke the constitutional law regarding civil rights, the Fourth
46:06
Speaker 1: Amendment right to be free of unreasonable searches and seizures
46:09
Speaker 1: in well going into the apartment without a warrant. So
46:13
Speaker 1: with that looming issue which could have been litigated, they've
46:17
Speaker 1: entered in an agreement which must be approved by counsel.
46:20
Speaker 1: And it seems to me that according to the Fox
46:21
Speaker 1: nineteen reporting, the only person who's chimed in out loud
46:24
Speaker 1: Councilman Seth Wals, which said or who said he'll vote
46:27
Speaker 1: for that amendment. Now here's something strange. Greg Landsman coming
46:30
Speaker 1: to the rescue of the city of Cincinnati. He is
46:32
Speaker 1: a congressman. You know him. Greg Landsman announced yesterday the
46:37
Speaker 1: US House Representatives passed a federal funding bill that will
46:40
Speaker 1: include money for the installation of cameras in Cincinnati. He said,
46:47
Speaker 1: the bill includes one million dollars for a project that
46:49
Speaker 1: will provide Cincinnati police with new cameras and more mental
46:53
Speaker 1: health resources. Huh, corner Landsman and his statement, recent tragedies
46:58
Speaker 1: in our city make it clear how critical this funding
47:00
Speaker 1: is for new police cameras and improving the existing ones. Hey, Joe,
47:04
Speaker 1: didn't we have some top of the hour reporting that
47:06
Speaker 1: they're already installing a bunch of new cameras, like ninety
47:09
Speaker 1: of them, and five point four million dollars allocated by
47:12
Speaker 1: have tab Pervo to put in some cameras at least
47:14
Speaker 1: in the West End. That happened last fall and does
47:18
Speaker 1: the city have enough money to deal with public safety
47:21
Speaker 1: that it could find somewhere in the budget one million dollars.
47:24
Speaker 1: We seem to find that kind of money everywhere when
47:26
Speaker 1: it comes to settling lawsuits. Don't we have the resources
47:29
Speaker 1: where we the City of Cincinnati, if we exercised the
47:32
Speaker 1: appropriate oversight of priorities, might have figured out a place
47:37
Speaker 1: to find a million dollars on our own and build
47:39
Speaker 1: and put up our own cameras. We need federal taxpayer
47:43
Speaker 1: dollars from Greg Landsman to do something that the city
47:46
Speaker 1: is eminently capable of doing within its own financial resources.
47:52
Speaker 1: You're just glad we found them, Joe. He has been
47:57
Speaker 1: kind of quiet, hasn't he, Greg Landsman? So this is
48:02
Speaker 1: a smart and bipartisan federal investment in public safety that
48:05
Speaker 1: brings tax payer dollars back to our communities. So local
48:08
Speaker 1: law enforcement has what it needs to keep our children
48:12
Speaker 1: and family safe. Which sounds to me like a Greg
48:14
Speaker 1: Landsman criticism of the City of Cincinnati failing in its priorities.
48:19
Speaker 1: Law enforcement doesn't have what it's needs. This suggest just
48:27
Speaker 1: my take. You can feel free to have your own take.
48:30
Speaker 1: I know somebody's got to take on this most recent
48:32
Speaker 1: settlement announcement, Ken Cober FLP President Ken Cober returns after
48:39
Speaker 1: these brief words starting with fast and pro roofing unqualified,
48:43
Speaker 1: unconditional recommendation for the best six point thirty one. If
48:52
Speaker 1: you have kre or ce the talk station taking me back,
48:56
Speaker 1: just tracker with the bumper music. This was the theme
48:58
Speaker 1: song for the cop Show back when Chief Tom Straker
49:02
Speaker 1: was chief of the CINCINNT Police Department and really missed
49:04
Speaker 1: that segment. Eddie, how you think we can get the
49:07
Speaker 1: current police chief to start a cop show up? Joe, Yeah,
49:11
Speaker 1: with a search warrant. I can't get one of those.
49:13
Speaker 1: Let's see what at Ken cob Fraternal Order of Police
49:16
Speaker 1: President Ken Koba, representing the Cincinnati Police Officers. God bless
49:20
Speaker 1: you and the CINCINNTI Police Department. Ken Cobra, welcome back
49:24
Speaker 1: your reaction to this proposed settlement another one, not the
49:28
Speaker 1: ones we've been talking about, but this new one point
49:30
Speaker 1: four to five million dollars settlement with a family of
49:33
Speaker 1: Kwon Davier Hicks, who was shot by a CINCINNT Police
49:36
Speaker 1: officer and died as a consequence apparently of him pointing
49:39
Speaker 1: a gun at him. Ken welcome back. This apparently needs
49:42
Speaker 1: to be proved by Cincinnati City Council. We only heard
49:44
Speaker 1: about it yesterday, but at least one councilman, Seth Walsh,
49:48
Speaker 1: has said he will vote to approve the settlement. What
49:50
Speaker 1: was your reaction to this? What is your reaction to
49:52
Speaker 1: this or is this just another payoff by the city
49:55
Speaker 1: that's unwarranted. Good to have you back on.
49:58
Speaker 2: Thy good morning, Brian. Thanks have me. This is.
50:03
Speaker 9: This is at least one where I can I can
50:05
Speaker 9: understand why they did it, Unlike some of these other ones,
50:09
Speaker 9: you know, in this case, this is something that's been
50:12
Speaker 9: going on for ten years. The Federal Court had said
50:16
Speaker 9: since the onset of this, the police officers they did
50:20
Speaker 9: absolutely nothing wrong. Their their decision to use force was
50:24
Speaker 9: absolutely justified. This all came down to it. And let
50:28
Speaker 9: me back up in this second though, Judge Barrett from
50:30
Speaker 9: the Federal Court initially ruled and said a summary judgment,
50:35
Speaker 9: I'm dismissing this. The officers did actually nothing wrong. In
50:38
Speaker 9: twenty so that was in twenty sixteen to twenty twenty,
50:43
Speaker 9: the plaintiffs for this appealed it to the Sixth Circuit Court.
50:50
Speaker 9: They then returned it back to Judge Barrett basically said,
50:55
Speaker 9: we're not really sure if the officers had a right
50:59
Speaker 9: to go in to the residents that they went into,
51:03
Speaker 9: because they came into play as to whether or not
51:06
Speaker 9: this was a multi family or single family, and whether
51:11
Speaker 9: this was a common area or not a common area.
51:14
Speaker 9: So they returned it back to Judge Barrett, and Judge
51:17
Speaker 9: Barrett's like, I don't have a problem with what the
51:19
Speaker 9: cops did. So they appealed it again in twenty twenty
51:23
Speaker 9: four and they came back with basically the same decision.
51:27
Speaker 9: Cops did nothing wrong. But here there's still this question
51:30
Speaker 9: that's lingering out there as to whether they had the
51:33
Speaker 9: right to do this.
51:33
Speaker 2: So based off of.
51:35
Speaker 9: That, and not only that question, but also as to
51:41
Speaker 9: you know, we had one of the officers that retired
51:43
Speaker 9: that was involved in this that basically said, listen, I
51:47
Speaker 9: would like to move on with my life. This has
51:48
Speaker 9: been hanging over my head for eleven years.
51:50
Speaker 2: You know. The courts have already said.
51:51
Speaker 9: I did nothing wrong, right, and the city's like, look
51:55
Speaker 9: what this is eleven years in the making.
51:57
Speaker 2: What do we do or are we going to have.
51:58
Speaker 9: This officer retired officer back that certainly presents a challenge.
52:03
Speaker 9: You know, the fop's legal team was involved in this
52:06
Speaker 9: since day one, and they all mutually agreed, you know,
52:10
Speaker 9: this is probably the best decision. So you know, as
52:13
Speaker 9: you well know, I'm not usually shy about criticizing the
52:17
Speaker 9: city when they do things that I don't agree with.
52:20
Speaker 2: In this case, I can understand why they did it.
52:23
Speaker 1: Well, there are exceptions to the Fourth Amendment right to
52:26
Speaker 1: be to get a search warrant. Correct, Like if you're
52:29
Speaker 1: in hot pursuit of an individual, that individual enters into
52:33
Speaker 1: a room of residents or otherwise, you can go in
52:36
Speaker 1: there without waiting around for a warrant.
52:38
Speaker 9: Correct, Yeah, without a doubt, and understand, I stand by
52:42
Speaker 9: these officers. I believe they did absolutely nothing wrong. Like
52:44
Speaker 9: I said, the court even agreed that they're appropriate. There
52:47
Speaker 9: was an appropriate use of force.
52:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, okay, this is where we need to
52:50
Speaker 1: break it down use. Of course, they were clearly faced
52:54
Speaker 1: with eminent apprehension, grievous bodily harm or murder because there
52:57
Speaker 1: was a rifle pointed at them. So if your fear
53:01
Speaker 1: for your life, legitimately so and reasonably so, that's when
53:04
Speaker 1: you can use deadly force. They did, so that was fine.
53:07
Speaker 1: It was the entering the room whereupon they came upon
53:12
Speaker 1: this guy pointing a rifle at them. The entry of
53:15
Speaker 1: the room is the question mark. Was it a civil
53:18
Speaker 1: rights violation to not get a warrant before going in there?
53:21
Speaker 1: Were they in hot pursuit or do they just believe
53:24
Speaker 1: he might be in there? Isn't that really fundamentally what
53:27
Speaker 1: we're talking about here?
53:28
Speaker 2: It is, and this is where an officer's job.
53:31
Speaker 9: You are damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. Yep,
53:34
Speaker 9: you know, they were there for a radio run. This
53:36
Speaker 9: wasn't like some kind of investigation.
53:37
Speaker 2: They were called there.
53:39
Speaker 9: They were called there to investigate somebody that was threatening somebody.
53:43
Speaker 9: I believe it was with the firearm. So they're there
53:47
Speaker 9: in good faith, acting off of a nine to one
53:49
Speaker 9: one call. Like I said, This wasn't some drug investigation
53:53
Speaker 9: or some kind of other investigation where they're doing some
53:55
Speaker 9: kind of proactive work.
53:56
Speaker 2: They were called to go there. They didn't ask to go.
53:59
Speaker 2: They were.
54:00
Speaker 9: And that's where I said, I stand by what these
54:02
Speaker 9: officers did. And even if you read this statement that
54:06
Speaker 9: came out from city Manager Cheryl Long, she said the
54:10
Speaker 9: officers acted appropriately. We stand by them, We stand by
54:13
Speaker 9: the work that they did. This comes down to this
54:15
Speaker 9: is nothing more than really just a business decision, and
54:19
Speaker 9: for that I can at least I can understand. This
54:22
Speaker 9: wasn't something as we know last week that I was.
54:25
Speaker 9: I was certainly pretty upset about, you know, doing things
54:28
Speaker 9: kind of quietly, and this is something that was done
54:31
Speaker 9: over eleven years, and it certainly wasn't done quietly. The
54:35
Speaker 9: FOP was involved in this from the get go, so
54:39
Speaker 9: it's certainly a different situation than what we've seen recently.
54:42
Speaker 1: All Right, well, I pause, I'm going to bring you back.
54:44
Speaker 1: I want to get updated on the whole hint in
54:47
Speaker 1: silence is deafening thing in city hall, and also your
54:50
Speaker 1: reaction to Greg Lansman apparently bringing back the bacon because
54:53
Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati won't pay money for the for
54:56
Speaker 1: city cameras. Want to get your reaction to that as well.
54:58
Speaker 1: We'll get another segment here with FOP as in Ken Kober.
55:01
Speaker 1: I want to first stay big picture with Jack add
55:04
Speaker 1: In coming up at the top of the air news meantime.
55:06
Speaker 1: FOP President Chapter six and nine that represents the Sin
55:09
Speaker 1: Sinti Police Department Ken Cobra on the program, kent your
55:13
Speaker 1: reaction they did go into executive session, since any council did.
55:17
Speaker 1: They did not tell anybody why they were going into
55:19
Speaker 1: executive session, which apparently violates Cincinnati council requirements. The public
55:24
Speaker 1: needs to know what they're talking about. There are limitations
55:27
Speaker 1: for why you can go into executive session, like speaking
55:30
Speaker 1: about legal matters. We don't know what they talked about,
55:33
Speaker 1: but they went in. They were there for two hours,
55:35
Speaker 1: and not a peep from anybody from council, the city
55:38
Speaker 1: manager's office, the mayor. Nothing revealed. What was your reaction
55:42
Speaker 1: to that? Since they were talking apparently, we guess about
55:45
Speaker 1: this Hinton settlement.
55:48
Speaker 9: Yeah, two hours of executive session. I wholly disagree that.
55:53
Speaker 9: When they're discussing city matters, discussing how to spend city
55:57
Speaker 9: tax dollars, presumably to be able to do that in secret,
56:02
Speaker 9: I completely disagree with it. And of course, you know,
56:06
Speaker 9: the media was there and I talked to some of
56:07
Speaker 9: the media outlets, and of course I'm not talking about
56:10
Speaker 9: I'm not talking about it. How they're able to get
56:12
Speaker 9: away with it has ben me. I mean a lack
56:14
Speaker 9: of transparency. You ask every other city you ask every
56:17
Speaker 9: other city department be transparent, which they should be. We
56:20
Speaker 9: all should be transparent. We're spending people's harder money. They
56:25
Speaker 9: have a right to know how it's being used. And
56:27
Speaker 9: this just I completely disagree with how this is being handled.
56:30
Speaker 2: Well.
56:30
Speaker 1: That and they need a justification if they're going to
56:33
Speaker 1: approve a settlement. I don't care if it's a dollar
56:35
Speaker 1: or ten million or whatever. We need a justification because
56:39
Speaker 1: right now no one seems to be able to come
56:41
Speaker 1: up with one, most notably given the fact that a
56:43
Speaker 1: recipient of some of the settlement money someone who allegedly
56:47
Speaker 1: has suffered damages and damages as a consequence of Ryan
56:49
Speaker 1: Hinton's death, his dad who killed and murdered, literally murdered,
56:54
Speaker 1: I would argue, a police officer literally ran them over
56:57
Speaker 1: a sheriff's deputy because his son had been shot by
57:00
Speaker 1: a Cincinnai police officer. You can't even find any logic
57:03
Speaker 1: or reason in that one. But that really irks people
57:06
Speaker 1: knowing that the man who killed a sheriff's deputy might
57:08
Speaker 1: get a chunk of the money.
57:10
Speaker 2: No aout a doubt it, I said.
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Speaker 9: And that's probably the biggest exception I take to all
57:14
Speaker 9: of this you know, like I said, this settlement that
57:16
Speaker 9: they came out with yesterday, I can rationalize and I
57:18
Speaker 9: can understand why they did it. No, it was something
57:21
Speaker 9: that was done with full transparency. You know, the FOP
57:24
Speaker 9: was aware of it. They came out what they explain
57:26
Speaker 9: why this happened over eleven years, and now we have
57:28
Speaker 9: this that there's absolutely no transparency whatsoever. It's being done
57:32
Speaker 9: behind closed doors. It's being discussed. Nobody knows what's going on.
57:36
Speaker 2: And that's it.
57:37
Speaker 9: Just this is not how a city government should be
57:40
Speaker 9: operating well.
57:42
Speaker 1: And the city government ship you operating more with public
57:44
Speaker 1: safety in mind. We obviously know that they have to
57:47
Speaker 1: have purvol didn't even acknowledge we had a crime problem
57:49
Speaker 1: until after the July last year beat down, where he
57:52
Speaker 1: then said, all right, here's five point four million dollars.
57:54
Speaker 1: We're going to put this towards some public safety, including
57:56
Speaker 1: the installation of some street cameras, cameras which had been
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Speaker 1: promised for years and years. I found out yesterday Greg
58:04
Speaker 1: Lansman said he has secured one million dollars in federal
58:09
Speaker 1: taxpayer money for a project that will provide Cincinnati police
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Speaker 1: with new cameras and some mental health resources. This is
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Speaker 1: Greg Landsman coming to the rescue of Cincinnati City Council
58:18
Speaker 1: and actually, more importantly, the residents of the city who
58:21
Speaker 1: are clamoring for this. Just yesterday it was announced on
58:24
Speaker 1: the top of the air news. You heard it. We're
58:26
Speaker 1: already installing I guess ninety new cameras. We had the money,
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Speaker 1: just no one bothered installing them. Is this Greg Landsman
58:32
Speaker 1: trying to score political points in advance of the November
58:35
Speaker 1: election saying I acknowledge there's an issue downtown with crime.
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Speaker 4: Well, to be.
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Speaker 9: Fair, to be fair, this is something that Greg Landsman
58:43
Speaker 9: has actually worked on the last two years to try
58:46
Speaker 9: to get this, and for one reason or another, it's died.
58:49
Speaker 9: Dies in the Senate, dies in the House. Oh yeah,
58:51
Speaker 9: I will give him credit. He has been trying to
58:54
Speaker 9: do this for two years and who knows, it may
58:56
Speaker 9: die in the Senate again. The House approve this, but
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Speaker 9: is the Senate can to prove? And this is where
59:03
Speaker 9: the bureaucracy of government is just it's astounding to see
59:07
Speaker 9: that it takes this long to allocate a million dollars
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Speaker 9: out of a brillion dollar budget.
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Speaker 1: I listen all day long. I'll agree with you. On that, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you expect something of the federal government. You're bound for
59:17
Speaker 1: disappointment because they can't agree that two and two is
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Speaker 1: four yet if he's been clamored to try to do
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Speaker 1: this via federal taxpayer dollars for a couple of years,
59:27
Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati has been promising cameras, for example
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Speaker 1: on the West End for a couple of years. Everyone
59:32
Speaker 1: appears to acknowledge that they are beneficial in at least
59:35
Speaker 1: deterring crime to some To some extent, they are great
59:38
Speaker 1: in terms of finding people who commit crimes because you
59:41
Speaker 1: got video evidence of it. Ken Cober, do you think
59:44
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years the city of Cincinnati
59:46
Speaker 1: could have found the million dollars Greg's been pushing for
59:50
Speaker 1: for the last couple of years within their own budget
59:52
Speaker 1: and prioritize the cameras, Ken.
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Speaker 9: Oh, without a doubt, a doubt. And I talked about this,
59:58
Speaker 9: I think it was last week with you about how
1:00:00
Speaker 9: they we only have two people, you know, two civilians
1:00:03
Speaker 9: to maintain and operate these cameras. However, because it's now
1:00:08
Speaker 9: a priority, they've now detailed some officers that have some
1:00:12
Speaker 9: pretty tech savvy abilities that are now going to be
1:00:15
Speaker 9: detailed from their administrative assignments to go out and install
1:00:19
Speaker 9: and repair these cameras. So now you're right to your point. Now,
1:00:22
Speaker 9: all of a sudden, it has become an absolute priority.
1:00:25
Speaker 9: And because now it's a priority, it's getting done. When
1:00:28
Speaker 9: to be quite honest, this is something investigators have begged
1:00:31
Speaker 9: for for years to get cameras fixed, to get cameras up.
1:00:35
Speaker 9: But now it's finally becoming a.
1:00:37
Speaker 1: Priority, finally becoming priority. And then there's all that Ohio
1:00:40
Speaker 1: state money that's are in resources have been offered by
1:00:43
Speaker 1: the governor. We don't know the total value of that,
1:00:45
Speaker 1: but it isn't going to cost the city taxpayers a dime.
1:00:48
Speaker 1: You would think that the administration would embrace every single
1:00:51
Speaker 1: bit of that free resource offer from the state. I
1:00:54
Speaker 1: guess though, they're a little upset because they probably wouldn't
1:00:56
Speaker 1: be able to control it because it would be the
1:00:58
Speaker 1: high state control as opposed to these since saying police.
1:01:03
Speaker 2: No without a doubt.
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Speaker 9: And that's that's something that I've certainly been critical of
1:01:07
Speaker 9: the mare as well as you're you're getting resources in
1:01:10
Speaker 9: the city that they have to pay for, and I
1:01:11
Speaker 9: understand you have pay taxes in Ohio we're still paying
1:01:15
Speaker 9: for this, but we're actually getting a return on our investments. Yeah,
1:01:18
Speaker 9: by having these extra resources, and why it hasn't been
1:01:21
Speaker 9: utilized center is something I've certainly been critical of. I'll
1:01:24
Speaker 9: never understand, you know.
1:01:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, a better return on investment than the six hundred
1:01:29
Speaker 1: million dollars that you have taxpayers are going to pay
1:01:31
Speaker 1: to build us of the Cleveland Browns Stadium.
1:01:35
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's no doubt about that. Or what is it
1:01:38
Speaker 9: like three hundred and fifty million dollars that the county's
1:01:41
Speaker 9: now invested into a pay course stadium that we saw
1:01:45
Speaker 9: that they did not exactly have the best season this
1:01:47
Speaker 9: year either.
1:01:48
Speaker 1: Priorities, priorities, priorities. You folks on the west end, suck
1:01:51
Speaker 1: it up, you know, maybe someday GOTHLP President ken Cover,
1:01:55
Speaker 1: thank you so much for the willingness to spend some
1:01:57
Speaker 1: time with my listeners and me on this and keep
1:01:59
Speaker 1: up the great work representing the police of the police force.
1:02:01
Speaker 1: And as I always point out, you got my audience
1:02:04
Speaker 1: is back, or my back, audience has your back, and
1:02:06
Speaker 1: all the police departments back. We'll have we'll have you
1:02:09
Speaker 1: on again real soon. Keep up the good work.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Brian, it's always a pleasure.
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1:02:48
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1:03:01
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1:03:11
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Speaker 10: We're just happy to have you, thanks man. Let's talk
1:03:38
Speaker 10: this week once again about conservatives whose unbending principles would
1:03:44
Speaker 10: leave our country paralyzed. They follow in the footsteps, well,
1:03:49
Speaker 10: footsteps actually is not the way to put it, because
1:03:51
Speaker 10: they don't get anywhere, and they stand right next to
1:03:55
Speaker 10: an ancient Greek philosopher named Zeno who famously that we
1:04:00
Speaker 10: can never get anywhere because first you need to go
1:04:04
Speaker 10: half the distance, and to go half the distance, you
1:04:07
Speaker 10: first have to go one quarter of the distance, and
1:04:10
Speaker 10: before that one eighth, one sixteenth, smaller and smaller distances,
1:04:15
Speaker 10: until finally you're stuck standing still, paralyzed. In political terms,
1:04:22
Speaker 10: if your country is paralyzed and there's an emergency, you're
1:04:26
Speaker 10: unable to defend yourself. Now, at the opposite extreme way
1:04:31
Speaker 10: of thinking. The Greeks also had Alexander the Great, the
1:04:35
Speaker 10: kid Conqueror, was confronted by a puzzle, a hank of
1:04:39
Speaker 10: rope tied into a knot. This so called Gordian knot
1:04:43
Speaker 10: was so complicated it was prophesied that anybody who could
1:04:47
Speaker 10: undo it would.
1:04:48
Speaker 9: Rule all the known world.
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Speaker 10: Well, Alexander had never been a boy scout, and it
1:04:53
Speaker 10: didn't know how to one tie complicated knots, So instead
1:04:57
Speaker 10: he took out his sword and cut the kN two.
1:05:01
Speaker 10: Then Alexander conquered the knowe world known to him. The
1:05:05
Speaker 10: Gordian not today is our constitution. We don't want to
1:05:10
Speaker 10: cut it, but we also don't want to be tied
1:05:13
Speaker 10: up in knots adopted by our founders during the time
1:05:16
Speaker 10: of divine right monarchs and other autocratic rulers, the US Constitution,
1:05:22
Speaker 10: this miracle of state craft, presents a framework for limited, decentralized,
1:05:28
Speaker 10: divided government. Still, the founders never wanted the Constitution to
1:05:34
Speaker 10: paralyze us, so Madison and the other framers included a
1:05:38
Speaker 10: way to amend it. A constitutional amendment can be proposed
1:05:42
Speaker 10: by two thirds of both the House of Representatives and
1:05:46
Speaker 10: the Senate, or an amendment can be proposed by two
1:05:49
Speaker 10: thirds of the state legislatures, then the amendment must be
1:05:54
Speaker 10: ratified by three fourths of the state legislatures or by
1:05:58
Speaker 10: conventions held in three fours of the states. Easy pasy, right, No,
1:06:04
Speaker 10: This tough ratification process explains why we have so few
1:06:08
Speaker 10: constitutional amendments, just twenty seven and actually the first ten amendments,
1:06:13
Speaker 10: what we call the Bill of Rights, they were adopted
1:06:16
Speaker 10: right away. So Congress and the states have since then
1:06:19
Speaker 10: ratified just seventeen constitutional amendments all since our founding. And
1:06:25
Speaker 10: that's a good thing, Brian, as you know, because making
1:06:29
Speaker 10: it so tough to amend the Constitution has preserved our
1:06:33
Speaker 10: basic rights. For instance, millions of leftists today would gladly
1:06:39
Speaker 10: scrap the right to bear arms, especially after a school shooting.
1:06:43
Speaker 10: It took the Supreme Court ruling just seventeen years ago
1:06:47
Speaker 10: in the Heller case to finally affirm that under the
1:06:50
Speaker 10: Second Amendment, the right to bear arms belongs to individuals,
1:06:55
Speaker 10: not just state militias. But that Supreme Court vote was
1:07:00
Speaker 10: five to four. The Heller decision could be reversed any
1:07:04
Speaker 10: time if the Supreme Court becomes more liberal, just as
1:07:08
Speaker 10: Roe v. Wade was reversed when the Court became more
1:07:11
Speaker 10: pro life. This raises the thorny issue of judicial interpretation.
1:07:17
Speaker 10: We like to think the courts are impartial, just following
1:07:20
Speaker 10: the law, but sorry, your honors, they are not. Ever
1:07:25
Speaker 10: since the eighteen oh three decision Barbarie Versus Madison, we
1:07:29
Speaker 10: have accepted that laws, including the Constitution, mean whatever a
1:07:34
Speaker 10: shifting bare majority of Supreme Court justices say they mean.
1:07:39
Speaker 10: Still having to propose an amendments of the Constitution and
1:07:42
Speaker 10: then having to get it ratified, and then getting the
1:07:45
Speaker 10: US Supreme Court to agree on an interpretation. All that
1:07:50
Speaker 10: makes the United States a comparatively stable republic of laws,
1:07:54
Speaker 10: not whims, passions and reverendums. However, it also means that
1:08:01
Speaker 10: America is not the most agile government. It's often hard
1:08:05
Speaker 10: for us to take quick emergency action. As Zeno would say,
1:08:09
Speaker 10: we cannot get from point A to point B, even
1:08:12
Speaker 10: if we need to dodge a bullet, even if Iranian
1:08:16
Speaker 10: nuclear plans may have been weeks away from being weaponized.
1:08:20
Speaker 10: Donald Trump's answer was to launch secret lightning fast airstrikes
1:08:25
Speaker 10: without a congressional declaration of war or even prior notice
1:08:29
Speaker 10: to Congress. This strike followed a long tradition. As we
1:08:34
Speaker 10: discussed last week, we noted that only thirteen years after
1:08:38
Speaker 10: the Constitution was adopted, Thomas Jefferson, on his own, deployed
1:08:43
Speaker 10: US Marines to the shores of Tripoli to free Americans
1:08:47
Speaker 10: from barbary pirates in Libya. More recently, Democrat and Republican
1:08:51
Speaker 10: presidents have claimed the constitutional power as commander in chief
1:08:56
Speaker 10: to fight without a Congressional declaration of war in I'm
1:09:01
Speaker 10: taking a big breath now, Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, Granada, Panama, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Libya, Iran,
1:09:15
Speaker 10: and now Venezuela. Each time presidents declared national emergencies. In response,
1:09:21
Speaker 10: Congress has sometimes appropriated funds after the fact, or it's
1:09:26
Speaker 10: attempted to place constraints on presidents, as with Vietnam the
1:09:30
Speaker 10: War Powers Resolution. However, since nineteen seventy three, presidents have
1:09:36
Speaker 10: argued that this resolution is primarily about notifying Congress before
1:09:42
Speaker 10: or after the fact, and they've claimed that under the
1:09:46
Speaker 10: separation of powers, an Act of Congress cannot diminish a
1:09:50
Speaker 10: president's own constitutional powers. So the debate continues. But Folks,
1:09:57
Speaker 10: the real problem is that in twenty six, we have
1:10:02
Speaker 10: no more debates. In the past, many Republicans, however, reluctantly
1:10:07
Speaker 10: supported Democrat presidents, from Harry Truman in Korea to Barack
1:10:11
Speaker 10: Obama and his five hundred and forty drone strikes in
1:10:15
Speaker 10: seven countries. On the other hand, Richard Nixon fought an
1:10:19
Speaker 10: undeclared war in Vietnam with help from Democrats like Scoop
1:10:23
Speaker 10: Jackson and Ronald Reagan. He was able to gain so
1:10:27
Speaker 10: much support a whole wing in Congress came to be
1:10:30
Speaker 10: called Reagan Democrats. Today, this kind of bipartisanship is unthinkable.
1:10:37
Speaker 10: That Democrats chief campaign strategy is polarization chaos Trump derangement
1:10:43
Speaker 10: syndrome Exhibit A Minnesota. Today's Democrats have no agenda, and
1:10:50
Speaker 10: when I say no, I mean no agenda they can
1:10:52
Speaker 10: admit to. In their quest for power, they favor big
1:10:56
Speaker 10: state socialism, corruption dependency, open borders to swell their base,
1:11:02
Speaker 10: and shipping jobs overseas to win support from multinational corporations.
1:11:08
Speaker 10: On these issues, they will not compromise. So, given this
1:11:12
Speaker 10: legislative paralysis, what we have to rely on now is
1:11:16
Speaker 10: not arguing in front of a shifting majority on the
1:11:18
Speaker 10: Supreme Court, not with Democrats once again threatening like FDR
1:11:23
Speaker 10: to expand and pack the High Court with liberals if
1:11:26
Speaker 10: they win, We must win elections, however rigged they may be.
1:11:31
Speaker 10: In blue states, we still do have congressional elections every
1:11:35
Speaker 10: two years, including this year. Voters will have the power
1:11:40
Speaker 10: to follow Trump's agenda or change the country's direction, and
1:11:45
Speaker 10: this spring will also have the power to primary incumbent lawmakers,
1:11:50
Speaker 10: including Republican members, who would stand in a way of
1:11:54
Speaker 10: fellow Republicans getting things done. Because these mavericks cannot persuade
1:12:00
Speaker 10: their own colleagues to see things their way, and failing that,
1:12:04
Speaker 10: they refuse to compromise even to just keep the government
1:12:08
Speaker 10: from shutting down. These gadflies proclaim their principles, but in
1:12:12
Speaker 10: effect they vote for paralysis. To sum up, governing is
1:12:18
Speaker 10: a messy business. Lincoln ignored habeas corpus, Franklin Roosevelt threw
1:12:24
Speaker 10: innocent American citizens of Japanese descent into internment cabs. I
1:12:29
Speaker 10: am not proposing that presidents become dictators. I am arguing
1:12:34
Speaker 10: for principled compromise because our constitution is not a suicide fact.
1:12:40
Speaker 10: It's not a Zeno trap that keeps America from moving
1:12:43
Speaker 10: from point A to point B. If Republican paralysis lets
1:12:47
Speaker 10: Democrats win in November, much less twenty twenty eight, they
1:12:52
Speaker 10: will pack the court. They will try making Washington, DC
1:12:56
Speaker 10: and Puerto Rico states. They will outlaw free speech, and
1:13:00
Speaker 10: the Constitution will go the way of the Gordian Knot.
1:13:04
Speaker 10: Each exercise of power by a president, Congress, and even
1:13:09
Speaker 10: the Supreme Court has to be judged on its own merits,
1:13:13
Speaker 10: ultimately at the ballot box, because for now, thankfully, voters
1:13:18
Speaker 10: still had the final say if they show up to
1:13:21
Speaker 10: say it. What do you say, brother?
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Speaker 1: I say, the latter part is a big challenge. I mean,
1:13:25
Speaker 1: this is a common reoccurring theme here everywhere, certainly here
1:13:28
Speaker 1: on the fifty five KCY Morning Show. These complex issues
1:13:32
Speaker 1: in this gridlock, and these other issues behind which they
1:13:36
Speaker 1: should be talking about and maybe compromising that it's all
1:13:39
Speaker 1: lost in the American people generally speaking. And I don't
1:13:41
Speaker 1: mean to paint with so large a brush. It includes everyone,
1:13:44
Speaker 1: but so many people are not inclined to even pay
1:13:47
Speaker 1: attention to politics. We're all victims of social media, getting
1:13:50
Speaker 1: our political ideology from memes as opposed to thoughtful analysis.
1:13:55
Speaker 1: Something like a meme can push people like to think,
1:13:57
Speaker 1: oh my god, I ser a bunch of Nazi, you know,
1:14:00
Speaker 1: estoppo thugs, when any measure of thoughtful analysis would reveal No,
1:14:04
Speaker 1: they are enforcing federal law. Law that's on the books,
1:14:07
Speaker 1: and that was passed by Congress and enacted by a
1:14:11
Speaker 1: prior president. That's the law they're enforcing. That was the
1:14:14
Speaker 1: political process in place back when the laws went to effect.
1:14:17
Speaker 1: That they disagree with them currently, that's going to require
1:14:20
Speaker 1: some political process and perhaps compromise by our elected officials
1:14:24
Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. None of which is happening right now.
1:14:27
Speaker 1: But you know, people who don't pay attention who would
1:14:29
Speaker 1: prefer to be you know, I'm just I don't pay
1:14:32
Speaker 1: attention to politics. They can easily be duped. But going
1:14:35
Speaker 1: back to your prior you know, illustrations of compromise, I
1:14:38
Speaker 1: think a Tip O'Neill. You know, I didn't like Tip
1:14:41
Speaker 1: O'Neil at the time, but ultimately he did reach across
1:14:43
Speaker 1: the island worked with Ronald Reagan to get some stuff
1:14:46
Speaker 1: done to our collective economic recovery benefit. No one's in
1:14:50
Speaker 1: the mood for working together because I think it's a
1:14:55
Speaker 1: consequence of this radical leftward shift in the Democrat Party.
1:15:00
Speaker 1: Democrats aren't just a party of you know, the little
1:15:03
Speaker 1: guy and fighting for big government programs anymore, although they
1:15:06
Speaker 1: still do that. They seem to be made up in
1:15:08
Speaker 1: large part, at least the predominant wing of the party,
1:15:11
Speaker 1: or the loudest voice of people who do not wish
1:15:14
Speaker 1: to continue the constitutional framework we live in. So this
1:15:18
Speaker 1: concern of yours, legitimate as it is, over the eradication
1:15:22
Speaker 1: disappearing constitution, that's a desired thing by many members of
1:15:26
Speaker 1: the left. We're going to rise like phoenix from the
1:15:28
Speaker 1: ashes once we get rid of that pesky constitution and
1:15:31
Speaker 1: their stupid protection of rights, individual rights like the right
1:15:35
Speaker 1: to keep them bare arms. Once that's eradicated, we're going
1:15:38
Speaker 1: to have something new here that is a level that
1:15:40
Speaker 1: this country I don't think has ever seen before. Yes,
1:15:43
Speaker 1: there were always fringe elements screaming for that kind of
1:15:46
Speaker 1: thing back in the day, but you know, even going
1:15:48
Speaker 1: back to the turn of the century in nineteen hundreds,
1:15:50
Speaker 1: we had a lot of socialists and communists running around,
1:15:53
Speaker 1: a lot of bomb throwers. We had, you know, back
1:15:55
Speaker 1: in the sixties, the Symbian Littleanese Limionese army and the
1:16:00
Speaker 1: weather underground, you know, planning bombs in the Senate, you know,
1:16:05
Speaker 1: bathroom I mean big things like that. But they were
1:16:07
Speaker 1: such a minority. The social media has caused these minority
1:16:12
Speaker 1: groups that hate America to look like they're much stronger
1:16:15
Speaker 1: than they are, or they become a lot stronger. So
1:16:18
Speaker 1: any compromise by that wining the Democratic Party is going
1:16:21
Speaker 1: to be a betrayal of what they ultimately run, which
1:16:24
Speaker 1: is the downfall of America.
1:16:25
Speaker 10: Jack, Yeah, the primary process may ultimately bring us a
1:16:33
Speaker 10: Democrat nominee who, like Joe Biden, pretends to be a moderate,
1:16:37
Speaker 10: but the Democrat Party has presently constituted has no future.
1:16:42
Speaker 10: What I'm talking about right now, because this is what
1:16:45
Speaker 10: we're facing during our primary season, is maverick Republicans. And
1:16:50
Speaker 10: you might say, well, there's just a few of them. Well,
1:16:52
Speaker 10: we don't have much of a margin right to give
1:16:56
Speaker 10: up a few votes, and I can't blame these mavericks.
1:16:59
Speaker 10: Ideal logical purity makes life easy. The Constitution gives Congress
1:17:05
Speaker 10: the right to declare war.
1:17:06
Speaker 2: That's it.
1:17:07
Speaker 10: Well, that's not it. As we've been trying to show,
1:17:10
Speaker 10: problems cannot be reduced to a formula. As every lawyer, judge,
1:17:14
Speaker 10: and congressman knows, there's a saying we learned in law school.
1:17:18
Speaker 10: Hard cases make bad laws and bad executive orders. Sometimes
1:17:24
Speaker 10: that saying does not mean we can stick our heads
1:17:27
Speaker 10: in the sand and ignore the hard cases. It means
1:17:30
Speaker 10: in the real world, the world of Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR
1:17:34
Speaker 10: and Trump, if you're going to be not an academic,
1:17:38
Speaker 10: but what Teddy Roosevelt called the man in the arena,
1:17:41
Speaker 10: you have to balance black letter law with life and
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Speaker 1: After the top of the air news suffering the slings
1:18:26
Speaker 1: and arrows of outrage from Donald Trump. Congressman Thomas Massey,
1:18:30
Speaker 1: we'll talk about his latest anti Nassy treat Where in
1:18:34
Speaker 1: the hell are the Epstein documents. That's a good question
1:18:36
Speaker 1: for Massy government shutdown coming your way. Compliments of the
1:18:39
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1:18:44
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Speaker 1: in the meantime, welcome back to the fifty five Carse
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Speaker 1: Mornings from American from Americans for Prosperity. Donovan O'Neil, it's
1:18:51
Speaker 1: always a pleasure to have in you on the show, Donovan, Brian,
1:18:55
Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday to you. I got I'm happy you bringing
1:18:58
Speaker 1: up the topic today that you wanted to bring about,
1:19:00
Speaker 1: the affordability argument. Democrats have just a couple of things
1:19:03
Speaker 1: that hang their hat on as we move toward election.
1:19:05
Speaker 1: Of course, the anti Ice and their immigration policy standpoint.
1:19:10
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's going to benefit them or not.
1:19:13
Speaker 1: I know the anti ICE rhetoric is getting hotter and
1:19:16
Speaker 1: hotter every day, but it seems to me, based on
1:19:18
Speaker 1: prior pulling the vast majority of Americans are happy to
1:19:20
Speaker 1: get rid of murderers, rapists, child molesters, drug dealers, illegal immigrants,
1:19:26
Speaker 1: most notably with criminal records representing a danger to society.
1:19:30
Speaker 1: Most people want them out. So will the Democrats be
1:19:32
Speaker 1: able to win on that anti Ice strategy remains to
1:19:34
Speaker 1: be seen. The other one, of course, subsidies for Obamacare,
1:19:38
Speaker 1: which doesn't fix the problem of the expense of healthcare.
1:19:41
Speaker 1: Will that work for them? Don't know. But the third
1:19:43
Speaker 1: one that I can come up with, other than just
1:19:46
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, evil orange man, the affordability argument. Everything's unaffordable.
1:19:51
Speaker 1: You know this overlooks at least the initial argument is
1:19:54
Speaker 1: disingenuous because well, of course, Joe Biden's responsible for a
1:19:58
Speaker 1: large portion of the massive recent prices of goods and
1:20:01
Speaker 1: services we face, because he's the one that threw an
1:20:03
Speaker 1: additional eight or so trillion dollars into the world, which
1:20:06
Speaker 1: of course waters down the value of the currency. So
1:20:09
Speaker 1: moving aside from that, they're the ones that put in
1:20:11
Speaker 1: all kinds of rules and regulations forcing the price of
1:20:14
Speaker 1: gasoline to go through the roof environmental regulations which increase
1:20:17
Speaker 1: the cost of electricity, housing restrictions, water flow restrictions. Lord Almighty,
1:20:21
Speaker 1: I could go on for hours and hours about things
1:20:25
Speaker 1: that politicians due to us, Donovan, which increase the cost
1:20:30
Speaker 1: of living in our world, which would not have happened
1:20:33
Speaker 1: in normal economic factor situations. I used the price of
1:20:37
Speaker 1: eggs earlier. Sorry for the rant, Donovan, but I'm a
1:20:39
Speaker 1: little hot into the collar onto this one. You can't
1:20:42
Speaker 1: control the price of eggs unless you somehow get involved
1:20:45
Speaker 1: with environmental regulations or rules about egg production, et cetera,
1:20:48
Speaker 1: et cetera. If you got bird flu and the chickens die,
1:20:51
Speaker 1: the price of eggs is going to go up. So
1:20:53
Speaker 1: there's no legislative solution for that. But most everything else,
1:20:58
Speaker 1: people are complaining about a self inflicted wound from overly
1:21:02
Speaker 1: zealous regulators, people who want to get rid of plant
1:21:05
Speaker 1: food from the environment. I could go on and on, Donovan.
1:21:08
Speaker 1: How come this isn't you know resonating with the American
1:21:10
Speaker 1: people that these are self inflicted wounds, and well, our
1:21:13
Speaker 1: politicians and elected officials could easily relieve the burden of
1:21:17
Speaker 1: all of this stuff just by removing the regulatory burdens
1:21:21
Speaker 1: they threw in our way.
1:21:24
Speaker 11: Well, I share the uh, I share the sentiment. On
1:21:26
Speaker 11: a Wednesday morning, it is rantworthy because you just kind
1:21:30
Speaker 11: of slap your face and wonder, how the heck are
1:21:32
Speaker 11: we in this situation? You know, Chuck Schumer Center Schumer
1:21:36
Speaker 11: Anti Pelosi Democrats. We've noticed they've started an uptick in
1:21:40
Speaker 11: talking about things to the lens of affordability.
1:21:43
Speaker 6: And you look at that and you say, well, wait
1:21:45
Speaker 6: a minute, Wait a minute.
1:21:46
Speaker 1: You are the fools who, you.
1:21:49
Speaker 11: Know, over the Biden Economy eras era enacted five point
1:21:54
Speaker 11: five trillion in new spending that pushed us up to
1:21:56
Speaker 11: forty year record high inflation. You're the same folks who
1:22:00
Speaker 11: believe that top down government policies on emission standards and
1:22:04
Speaker 11: the kinds of vehicles we can buy, and the tax
1:22:06
Speaker 11: credits for evs and the desire to like, over the
1:22:10
Speaker 11: next decade or two eliminate, you know, affordable gas powered vehicles.
1:22:14
Speaker 6: You're the folks who did this.
1:22:16
Speaker 11: Like, the affordability crisis that Americans have been feeling for
1:22:20
Speaker 11: the last several years that we're beginning to find our
1:22:23
Speaker 11: way out of, was caused by the policy, the very
1:22:26
Speaker 11: policies that folks like Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffreys, Greg Landsman,
1:22:30
Speaker 11: Sharr Brown and others want to see brought back to
1:22:33
Speaker 11: this country, and it's just it's why we're in the
1:22:36
Speaker 11: situation we're in, these top down policies, mandates pushed from Washington,
1:22:40
Speaker 11: d c. Or Columbus, Ohio, that make life less affordable
1:22:44
Speaker 11: for so many people.
1:22:45
Speaker 1: Well, and the economic reality of all this is revealed
1:22:48
Speaker 1: in the h Well the most recent statements from the
1:22:50
Speaker 1: Governor of California, Gavin Newsom. Last week he did the
1:22:53
Speaker 1: State of the State address, and among the other comments
1:22:55
Speaker 1: he made, we California are approving that you that out
1:22:58
Speaker 1: of the mouse in his pocket, are proving that a
1:23:01
Speaker 1: progressive tax structure works, and that in the following week
1:23:05
Speaker 1: he is advocating against voting for the five percent tax
1:23:08
Speaker 1: on the wealth of residents with a network of the
1:23:10
Speaker 1: worth of a billiona more. Why because they all the
1:23:13
Speaker 1: billionaires started leaving the state of California last December. Because
1:23:17
Speaker 1: this would be a retroactive tax to anybody who is
1:23:19
Speaker 1: still residing in California. It's been reported. I saw the
1:23:22
Speaker 1: Washington Times report on this that one bill a trillion
1:23:26
Speaker 1: dollars of the two trillion dollars in billionaire wealth that
1:23:29
Speaker 1: existed in California has left. So those folks have gone
1:23:33
Speaker 1: to Texas and Florida, among other places. They're running away
1:23:36
Speaker 1: from outrageous regulation, outrageous taxation, all these things that the
1:23:41
Speaker 1: government did to them. And now they've got this bounty
1:23:46
Speaker 1: on their heads taking five percent of their gross ownings
1:23:49
Speaker 1: or everything of their material wealth, which means a lot
1:23:52
Speaker 1: of them would have to liquidate things they own. We've
1:23:54
Speaker 1: talked about this in the past. They don't have cash
1:23:56
Speaker 1: on hand to pay billions of dollars in this tax.
1:24:00
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to sell stuff they owned to do it.
1:24:03
Speaker 1: I it's a recipe for disaster. As Governor Newsom is
1:24:06
Speaker 1: finding out, this is what they did to themselves. Can
1:24:10
Speaker 1: we not learn a lesson from the cautionary tale that
1:24:12
Speaker 1: is the state of California and it's colossally screwed up
1:24:16
Speaker 1: budget deficits in spite of how much they exact from
1:24:19
Speaker 1: their citizens.
1:24:21
Speaker 11: Well, and just look at the Obamacare debacle and this
1:24:24
Speaker 11: current debate around the ACA subsidies, right, you know, I
1:24:27
Speaker 11: look at the election in twenty twenty four is where Ohioans,
1:24:33
Speaker 11: you know, had been told for a decade by people
1:24:36
Speaker 11: like Shared Brown that Obamacare, the affordable so called affordable
1:24:40
Speaker 11: character is going to lower costs in their healthcare.
1:24:43
Speaker 6: We knew that wasn't going to be the case.
1:24:46
Speaker 11: We called that those of us who know that when
1:24:49
Speaker 11: you force mandates down on people, and you you constrain systems,
1:24:54
Speaker 11: and you you don't let the free market operate, costs
1:24:57
Speaker 11: go up, pain ensues. But they were rejected those ideas, right.
1:25:01
Speaker 11: They had finally said enough is enough, there's no more
1:25:03
Speaker 11: making a bad system work. We need to change course.
1:25:08
Speaker 11: And they did that right least so by electing Senator
1:25:10
Speaker 11: Bernie Moreno. I think these same policies, though, are you know,
1:25:13
Speaker 11: around affordability or a challenge in that It's easy to
1:25:16
Speaker 11: say to to the voter, to the citizen, just give
1:25:19
Speaker 11: me a little more control, right, let me pass some
1:25:22
Speaker 11: more laws, some more rules, some more regulations.
1:25:25
Speaker 8: I can.
1:25:26
Speaker 11: I can fix your problem. That's the politician at large, right,
1:25:29
Speaker 11: the Washington d C. Environment What we really want, though,
1:25:32
Speaker 11: And I think what voters will reward come November isn't
1:25:37
Speaker 11: all their problems or pass a law, or spend more
1:25:40
Speaker 11: of their harder and tax dollars, you know, robbing Peter
1:25:44
Speaker 11: to pay Paul. I think what voters are going to
1:25:46
Speaker 11: reward are bold lawmakers who charted different course. It's why folks,
1:25:51
Speaker 11: you know, even when they're upset with Trump, still love them, right,
1:25:54
Speaker 11: because he's doing something and he's moving he's moving the
1:25:58
Speaker 11: country in a in a different way than that sort
1:26:01
Speaker 11: of status quo.
1:26:02
Speaker 2: Right.
1:26:02
Speaker 11: And but what it also takes isn't just bold leaders
1:26:06
Speaker 11: who are going to chart a different course. We've got
1:26:08
Speaker 11: to go out there and we've got to talk about
1:26:10
Speaker 11: these things. We have to actually communicate with voters say hey, yeah,
1:26:13
Speaker 11: you know, putting a subsidy on one thing isn't the
1:26:15
Speaker 11: best course rush. You need to unravel that system and
1:26:18
Speaker 11: free let the free market.
1:26:19
Speaker 1: Lead, well at free market lead, but also don't mask
1:26:21
Speaker 1: the reality of what's going on here. They promised to
1:26:24
Speaker 1: lower health care costs. They're not lowering health care costs.
1:26:28
Speaker 1: The reason the premiums have gone through the rules because
1:26:29
Speaker 1: the cost of healthcare hasn't come down. That's what happens.
1:26:33
Speaker 1: They are masking the cost. Masking by giving you a
1:26:38
Speaker 1: subsidy to cover the premium does not eradicate the underlying
1:26:41
Speaker 1: problem with the outrageous increase in the cost of medicine.
1:26:43
Speaker 1: Why is the cost of medicine so damn expensive, Donovan,
1:26:47
Speaker 1: that's the root of the problem. That's what needs to
1:26:49
Speaker 1: be a dealt with. Donald Trump reacts by saying, Okay,
1:26:52
Speaker 1: I want Most Favored Nation status for pharmaceuticals. If X
1:26:55
Speaker 1: country gets to buy a pharmaceutical for ten bucks and
1:26:58
Speaker 1: we're paying one hundred in the state or in the States, No,
1:27:01
Speaker 1: it's going to become ten. That's a solution. Agree with
1:27:05
Speaker 1: it or not. From a market force perspective, However, the
1:27:07
Speaker 1: pharmaceuticals run, We're never going to have any new pharmaceuticals.
1:27:10
Speaker 1: If you do that, it's still a solution that goes
1:27:12
Speaker 1: directly to the cost of the good getting rid of
1:27:16
Speaker 1: pharmacy benefit managers, pointless stupid middlemen who are making the
1:27:21
Speaker 1: price of pharmatacles pharmaceuticals go through the roof. I haven't
1:27:24
Speaker 1: heard a whole lot of talk about that. That would
1:27:26
Speaker 1: is what I would think. It would be an easy
1:27:28
Speaker 1: legislative solution to part of the healthcare cost problem. But
1:27:33
Speaker 1: then you got this whole affordability thing, resulting in Donald
1:27:35
Speaker 1: Trump doing things that Democrats might typically do, like mandating
1:27:39
Speaker 1: ten percent cap on credit card fees. Now, I know
1:27:42
Speaker 1: it's not an executive order, it's just an ask, but
1:27:45
Speaker 1: that's government telling business how to run itself. Telling institutional
1:27:50
Speaker 1: investors that they can't buy real estate sounds like a
1:27:53
Speaker 1: Democrat idea. Might it cause a little relief in home
1:27:56
Speaker 1: ownership issues maybe down the road, but you know, times
1:28:00
Speaker 1: call for desperate actions. But you know, this affordability argument
1:28:03
Speaker 1: they've got has sort of has sort of sent Donald
1:28:06
Speaker 1: Trump over into the realm of Democrat proposals. Donovan O'Neil pause,
1:28:11
Speaker 1: answer that or address that. We come back, as Joe's
1:28:14
Speaker 1: screaming at me, I have gone way over seven thirty
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1:28:26
Speaker 1: and Neil. Sorry to rant and unload on you at
1:28:28
Speaker 1: the end of their bran h Donovan, but this is
1:28:32
Speaker 1: one that just irks me to know when if people
1:28:34
Speaker 1: paid attention and had some basic economic understanding, they would
1:28:38
Speaker 1: fully appreciate that most of this affordability crisis, if they
1:28:41
Speaker 1: want to call it, that is self inflicted. And I
1:28:44
Speaker 1: rambled on a little bit toward the end there. But
1:28:47
Speaker 1: your reaction to the states, you can manage one.
1:28:51
Speaker 11: Well, no, I think what you're pointing out there, right is,
1:28:53
Speaker 11: this isn't a problem that is unique to one political party.
1:28:57
Speaker 6: It's human.
1:28:57
Speaker 11: It's natural human nature right to say, you know, I'm
1:29:00
Speaker 11: feeling some pain, and if somebody can come along and
1:29:02
Speaker 11: make those promises to alleviate that pain, I'm gonna yield
1:29:06
Speaker 11: some of my freedom, some of my autonomy to them.
1:29:09
Speaker 2: Right.
1:29:09
Speaker 6: And the problem here is is as Chuck.
1:29:12
Speaker 11: Schumer and the Democrats, I think the thing the illustrate
1:29:14
Speaker 11: here right is is Chuck Schumer Democrats in this election
1:29:18
Speaker 11: year start making that authoritability argument and saying, hey, give
1:29:21
Speaker 11: us back that power, give us that ability.
1:29:23
Speaker 1: We're going to pass some laws, we're going to tax
1:29:25
Speaker 1: the rich, we're.
1:29:25
Speaker 11: Going to regulate and secure the economy, and it's all
1:29:28
Speaker 11: going to get better.
1:29:30
Speaker 6: That's the playbook.
1:29:31
Speaker 11: We know that put us in the situation that we're
1:29:33
Speaker 11: in today, right, And so you know, challenging that, pushing
1:29:37
Speaker 11: back against that, and pointing out that the way you
1:29:39
Speaker 11: actually solve this supportability crisis isn't a quicksilver bullet of
1:29:43
Speaker 11: an executive action or.
1:29:45
Speaker 6: A new bill being passed.
1:29:47
Speaker 11: It's actually unwinding the disastrous effects of Bidenomics. Right by unleashing,
1:29:53
Speaker 11: permitting reform, by eliminating subsidies to Obamacare that are masking
1:29:57
Speaker 11: the true costs of health care, by unleashing our economy,
1:30:01
Speaker 11: and allowing people to innovate and grow and create wealth
1:30:06
Speaker 11: once again in this country. Those are the things you
1:30:08
Speaker 11: got to do. It's really getting the government out of
1:30:10
Speaker 11: your life rather than inviting it further and deeper into
1:30:13
Speaker 11: our pocketbooks.
1:30:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, looking at the environmental nonsense
1:30:17
Speaker 1: that I keep referring to the religion that we've all
1:30:19
Speaker 1: apparently following with the exception me heretic, I am blasphemer.
1:30:23
Speaker 1: But windmill and solar farm subsidies the only reason those
1:30:28
Speaker 1: things were even economically viable, it's that government manipulation. For
1:30:33
Speaker 1: whatever reason, they want to get rid of carbon based fuels,
1:30:36
Speaker 1: or you want to get rid of gasoline and natural
1:30:37
Speaker 1: gas and all the things that work. They won't allow nuclear,
1:30:40
Speaker 1: even though we all know that that doesn't produce carbon dioxide.
1:30:42
Speaker 1: So we go to windmills and solar panels, and they
1:30:45
Speaker 1: sell the idea that it's affordable and it will work
1:30:47
Speaker 1: because you and I are subsidizing the building and creation
1:30:52
Speaker 1: and acquisition of these windmill farms and solar plants. If
1:30:55
Speaker 1: real market forces were at work, and if government didn't
1:30:57
Speaker 1: subsidize them with our ever growing deafests dollars, then they
1:31:01
Speaker 1: wouldn't be there as an option because they can't compete
1:31:05
Speaker 1: and they are unreliable well, and.
1:31:08
Speaker 6: Subsidies drive up the costs.
1:31:09
Speaker 11: You know, one of the things that Santa Moreno had
1:31:12
Speaker 11: had mentioned to me and I did, I'd looked into it,
1:31:14
Speaker 11: and that it appears to be true is not that
1:31:17
Speaker 11: I have any reason not to believe among this prime
1:31:19
Speaker 11: but the the EV subsidies, seventy EV subsidies. Guess what
1:31:24
Speaker 11: happened when they eliminated those EV subsidies did the price
1:31:27
Speaker 11: day seventy five dollars higher? The price dropped subsidies artificially
1:31:32
Speaker 11: increased price of goods and services. Right, because if if
1:31:35
Speaker 11: you're a company and you're looking at that and you're saying, well, hey,
1:31:37
Speaker 11: look it's not going to hurt my customers. They're going
1:31:39
Speaker 11: to get it on the back end through these you know,
1:31:41
Speaker 11: through the taxpayer subsidies funded subsidies.
1:31:44
Speaker 6: We'll just jack the prices up a little more and
1:31:46
Speaker 6: push our profits up.
1:31:47
Speaker 8: You know.
1:31:47
Speaker 1: The funny part about that DATAVA is in spite of
1:31:49
Speaker 1: the subsidies, all the automobile manufacturers were losing money, losing money.
1:31:56
Speaker 1: They couldn't make money with a subsidy. Billions of dollars
1:32:00
Speaker 1: written off by all these major automobile manufacturers because they
1:32:03
Speaker 1: chase this elusive zero carbon world that the government forced
1:32:08
Speaker 1: them to chase. A CAFE standards make it so much
1:32:12
Speaker 1: so that you can't have an internal combustion engine that
1:32:15
Speaker 1: could ever And because physics comes into equation, you can't
1:32:19
Speaker 1: change the law of physics. I'm sadly for some congressmen
1:32:22
Speaker 1: that don't understand that. But physics prevents you from getting
1:32:25
Speaker 1: whatever the CAFE standard is, so you've got to default
1:32:27
Speaker 1: to EV. So you manufacture a bunch of evs to
1:32:29
Speaker 1: make your overall fleet look like it's compliant. But nobody's
1:32:33
Speaker 1: buying the dm evs, which means you end up making
1:32:36
Speaker 1: a loss on the production of EV's great Yep, yep.
1:32:41
Speaker 11: It's the lunacy of top down control, right with folks
1:32:46
Speaker 11: in Washington, bureaucrats in the you know, the deep state,
1:32:50
Speaker 11: say just trust me, right, you know, the people don't understand.
1:32:54
Speaker 11: It's the trust the experts. Brian where have We.
1:32:57
Speaker 2: Been with that.
1:32:57
Speaker 1: We've heard that before. Trust the ivy for those who
1:33:01
Speaker 1: want to look back at the hockey stick when that
1:33:03
Speaker 1: was the religion and gospel for global warming. Yeah, they
1:33:06
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1:33:47
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1:34:16
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Speaker 2: Great to be on. You know. Occasionally I get a
1:34:25
Speaker 2: mean tweet from the President, but then I get about
1:34:28
Speaker 2: eighty thousand dollars a donation sent to my website every time.
1:34:31
Speaker 2: That happens, mostly by people who like the President and
1:34:35
Speaker 2: like me as well.
1:34:36
Speaker 1: Right that. See, that's me. Although I don't I haven't,
1:34:40
Speaker 1: you know, submitted to fealty to Donald Trump. I do
1:34:43
Speaker 1: have my occasional criticisms of him, and I'm entitled to them.
1:34:47
Speaker 1: I do share your profound appreciation and respect for the
1:34:50
Speaker 1: ultimate law of the lamb, which is the Constitution. I've
1:34:53
Speaker 1: got a lot of questions legal and otherwise about some
1:34:55
Speaker 1: of the things Donald Trump has done. And you know,
1:34:58
Speaker 1: we're entitled to have these discussions because it does exist
1:35:01
Speaker 1: within a discussion of the Constitution and what the Constitution
1:35:04
Speaker 1: allows and does not allow. But you know, I can
1:35:08
Speaker 1: really appreciate you, but also appreciate the work that Donald
1:35:11
Speaker 1: Trump has done, because he's got a lot accomplished for
1:35:13
Speaker 1: the good of all the humanity in the United States
1:35:16
Speaker 1: since he took office. So you just can't step out
1:35:19
Speaker 1: alive with him. When you're a politician, you're not allowed
1:35:21
Speaker 1: to suggest something independent of his idea.
1:35:27
Speaker 2: I vote with the party ninety one percent of the time.
1:35:30
Speaker 2: I'm almost embarrassed to tell you I do it that
1:35:34
Speaker 2: many times. Yeah, it's the nine percent where they're bankrupting
1:35:38
Speaker 2: a company or starting another war or trying to cover
1:35:41
Speaker 2: up for pedophiles where I disagree with the party, and
1:35:45
Speaker 2: then I get in trouble for taking the other path,
1:35:48
Speaker 2: which is the constitutional path or the path of transparency.
1:35:54
Speaker 1: Well, it's never the path of the Democrats necessarily. Although
1:35:58
Speaker 1: going over to the Epstein files been a real puzzler
1:36:01
Speaker 1: for literally everyone. We can go through the brief history
1:36:04
Speaker 1: of it. Donald Trump even campaigned on getting the Epstein
1:36:06
Speaker 1: files out there. The Democrats were in power under Joe Biden.
1:36:09
Speaker 1: They could have released them during that entire period of time,
1:36:11
Speaker 1: because they were sitting in a back room somewhere. They
1:36:13
Speaker 1: didn't lift a finger to release them. Donald Trump gets selected,
1:36:16
Speaker 1: he then sort of does a one to eighty and
1:36:18
Speaker 1: says no, no, there's nothing to see there. And then
1:36:20
Speaker 1: the Democrats immediately say, well, Donald Trump doesn't want to
1:36:23
Speaker 1: release them, so we all want to release them, resulting
1:36:26
Speaker 1: in your discharge petition because you know that we are
1:36:29
Speaker 1: entitled to see the Epstein files. And then everyone, with
1:36:32
Speaker 1: a notable few exceptions, House and Senate votes to release
1:36:35
Speaker 1: the Epstein files. Congressman Thomas Messey, he did sign that
1:36:38
Speaker 1: piece of legislation. It was the law, or it is
1:36:41
Speaker 1: the law of the land that those documents were supposed
1:36:44
Speaker 1: to have been produced already. Am I wrong?
1:36:48
Speaker 2: You're correct. The President signed my bill at which said
1:36:51
Speaker 2: that the Epstein files were due by December nineteenth. We're
1:36:54
Speaker 2: almost what, we're a month passed that date, and they've
1:37:01
Speaker 2: released like maybe one percent of the files and things,
1:37:05
Speaker 2: and the files that they're releasing are not the files
1:37:08
Speaker 2: that we need. We've told them specifically, we want the
1:37:11
Speaker 2: draft indictments. We want the three O two forms that
1:37:14
Speaker 2: FBI fills out after they interview the victims. We want
1:37:18
Speaker 2: the stuff that has the names in them. And we've
1:37:21
Speaker 2: told them you can't redact them because you're trying to
1:37:23
Speaker 2: protect internal deliberations. We want the internal deliberations. The law says,
1:37:28
Speaker 2: give us the internal deliberations. So, because they've missed the deadline,
1:37:34
Speaker 2: but more importantly, because they are over redacting these files,
1:37:38
Speaker 2: we have asked the judge, Judge Ingelemeyer in the Southern
1:37:42
Speaker 2: District of New York to appoint a special master to
1:37:45
Speaker 2: oversee the reactions and the release of these files. And
1:37:50
Speaker 2: the judge responded to us this week and told us
1:37:55
Speaker 2: and the doj okay, give me your arguments within a
1:37:58
Speaker 2: week and then and he may make some kind of
1:38:01
Speaker 2: decision here. So that's our next step. There are other
1:38:05
Speaker 2: avenues available to us legislatively and legally, legislatively, we could
1:38:10
Speaker 2: find Pambondi in contempt. She is in contempt of Congress now,
1:38:15
Speaker 2: especially because our law that the President signed also said
1:38:20
Speaker 2: fifteen days after the original thirty day deadline, they've got
1:38:24
Speaker 2: to give a report to Congress listing all the political
1:38:27
Speaker 2: folks that they found in their files, and they have
1:38:31
Speaker 2: to justify all the reactions. So they've missed both deadlines
1:38:35
Speaker 2: now and one was specifically for a deliverable to Congress.
1:38:38
Speaker 2: So they're in contempt of Congress. We can find them
1:38:41
Speaker 2: in contempt. There's another level called inherent contempt, where you
1:38:45
Speaker 2: could find her from the House of Representatives or send
1:38:48
Speaker 2: the Sergeant at Arms to arrest her. We could do that.
1:38:52
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to go to the Senate. We could
1:38:55
Speaker 2: impeach her. That's a steep hill to climb in the Senate.
1:39:00
Speaker 2: The threat of that might compel her to start following
1:39:03
Speaker 2: the law. Or we could bring a lawsuit. The victims
1:39:08
Speaker 2: could bring a lawsuit, or myself and the co author
1:39:10
Speaker 2: of my build, Rokana, could bring a lawsuit if we
1:39:14
Speaker 2: can establish standing in a court and then compel the
1:39:17
Speaker 2: release of them. There's so many avenues. We're trying the
1:39:20
Speaker 2: most polite avenue right now, which is to say, judge,
1:39:24
Speaker 2: can you point a special master just to see what
1:39:26
Speaker 2: they're doing over there?
1:39:27
Speaker 1: Well, the law is on the books. I'm going back
1:39:33
Speaker 1: to this whole idea that they swore to uphold. The
1:39:35
Speaker 1: Constitution and faithfully execute the laws. That would include a
1:39:38
Speaker 1: swear by Donald Trump as well as Pam BONDI right,
1:39:41
Speaker 1: she took the oath as well, didn't she?
1:39:44
Speaker 2: Yes. Here's another thing about the Well, go ahead, Brian.
1:39:48
Speaker 1: I guess absence some argument that the law in and
1:39:52
Speaker 1: of itself is unconstitutional, which I don't think anybody has
1:39:56
Speaker 1: made that argument, although you can correct me if I'm wrong.
1:39:59
Speaker 1: The laws says what the law says. There's really nothing
1:40:02
Speaker 1: to review here other than try to figure out a
1:40:04
Speaker 1: remedy based upon the various people involved making the decisions
1:40:09
Speaker 1: refusal to follow what the law specifically says.
1:40:13
Speaker 2: They are making a legal argument that a first year
1:40:17
Speaker 2: law student when no, doesn't hold any water. The legal
1:40:21
Speaker 2: argument they're trying to make is that the Privacy Act
1:40:24
Speaker 2: protects these people, the perpetrators who've not been indicted. Here's
1:40:29
Speaker 2: the problem. Our bill, which is a newer law, overrides
1:40:33
Speaker 2: the old law. They're saying because you didn't repeal the
1:40:36
Speaker 2: Privacy Act, that the Privacy Act overrules your new bill.
1:40:40
Speaker 2: But our new bill is the law of the land
1:40:43
Speaker 2: supersedes you don't have to yeah, supersedes it. And the
1:40:47
Speaker 2: judges every judge in the country knows this. We just
1:40:51
Speaker 2: need one judge to tell them. What's what. The other
1:40:55
Speaker 2: thing they're doing is they're saying that our Foyer Standards
1:40:58
Speaker 2: Freedom of Information Act allow us to redact things because
1:41:02
Speaker 2: of internal deliberations. Well, here's the problem with this that
1:41:07
Speaker 2: this is not a Foyet This is not information law.
1:41:11
Speaker 2: This freaking law the President signed.
1:41:14
Speaker 12: And second of all, it says internal communications, including decisions
1:41:20
Speaker 12: about whether to indict, decisions about this, and decisions about that.
1:41:26
Speaker 2: It's all we need is like some judge somewhere to say, Pambindy,
1:41:31
Speaker 2: you're full of it. And so that's hopefully we get
1:41:35
Speaker 2: to that point soon. But here's what I was going
1:41:39
Speaker 2: to say when I interrupted you. I'm sorry. I was
1:41:43
Speaker 2: going to say, this is a law. And here's the
1:41:45
Speaker 2: other feature of a law. Until it's repealed, it goes
1:41:50
Speaker 2: on forever. So Pambondy, even though we could we could
1:41:54
Speaker 2: refer contempt charges on her to the DJ, she's not
1:41:59
Speaker 2: going to find herself contempt right, But the next Attorney
1:42:02
Speaker 2: general could prosecute a prior attorney general for not following
1:42:08
Speaker 2: this law because, unlike a congressional subpoena from the Oversight
1:42:11
Speaker 2: Committee or the Judiciary Committee. This thing doesn't expire at
1:42:15
Speaker 2: the end of our congrerect It goes on forever. Well,
1:42:18
Speaker 2: so they're putting themselves in legal jeopardy, and you can
1:42:21
Speaker 2: be darn sure there are going to be future attorney
1:42:24
Speaker 2: generals who will prosecute this thing when they get in
1:42:28
Speaker 2: that seat. Now, Pambonni hasn't arrested or indicted anybody, not Fauci,
1:42:33
Speaker 2: nobody for any of the things that you know, we
1:42:36
Speaker 2: claim that's been going on, and we know that have
1:42:38
Speaker 2: been going on. But I can guarantee you there will
1:42:40
Speaker 2: be ags who will be aggressive.
1:42:43
Speaker 1: Well, I guess to suppose the elephant in the room
1:42:45
Speaker 1: is this amid all of this overwhelming legal support for
1:42:50
Speaker 1: producing the damned documents, given what we just you know
1:42:53
Speaker 1: what you and I just just talked about here, the
1:42:55
Speaker 1: big looming question is why would you even go down
1:42:58
Speaker 1: this impeachment or contempt or whatever legal action road is
1:43:02
Speaker 1: going to be in front of us inevitably? What is
1:43:06
Speaker 1: the reason they aren't being produced? The real reason? Who
1:43:10
Speaker 1: are they trying to cover or hide? These are the
1:43:12
Speaker 1: questions that always pop up when you try to hide
1:43:14
Speaker 1: the ball from the American people.
1:43:18
Speaker 2: That's the thing. Pam Bondi's not in these files. Todd Blanche,
1:43:22
Speaker 2: her deputy, is not in these files. Why are they
1:43:26
Speaker 2: putting their heads their necks in a news literally, yes,
1:43:30
Speaker 2: by violating this law, they could be charged criminally. Why
1:43:34
Speaker 2: are they doing that? Who are they covering up for?
1:43:38
Speaker 2: Why is this so important to them? Why don't they
1:43:41
Speaker 2: just comply with the law because they will get in
1:43:44
Speaker 2: trouble in the cover up. Not for releasing the things.
1:43:49
Speaker 1: And going back to whether or not you like Donald
1:43:51
Speaker 1: Trump or not, isn't a little bit revealing perhaps, or
1:43:55
Speaker 1: one can might reach the conclusion that it's revealing that
1:43:57
Speaker 1: Donald Trump hasn't come out and say, what's the damn
1:43:59
Speaker 1: problem here? Get the documents out? Like the law that
1:44:02
Speaker 1: I signed says to.
1:44:04
Speaker 2: Do well, that's the thing that payin BONDI worked for him.
1:44:09
Speaker 2: We know that he does just need to walk down
1:44:14
Speaker 2: the hall and say do it or come out and
1:44:17
Speaker 2: say do it right, So, in the absence of him
1:44:21
Speaker 2: compelling her, he's complicit. Now he and this thing, it's
1:44:28
Speaker 2: like everything in the world is happening. I call these
1:44:31
Speaker 2: weapons of mass distraction. And now they're trying to just
1:44:35
Speaker 2: completely ignore the document production. It's literally ground to a halt,
1:44:40
Speaker 2: and they've admitted they've only released about one percent of
1:44:44
Speaker 2: the files. They say there are a million files they've found. Oh,
1:44:47
Speaker 2: we didn't know we had a million files on st right,
1:44:50
Speaker 2: which brings another question. How does how is there an
1:44:55
Speaker 2: FBI file? It's a million files big okay, a folder
1:45:00
Speaker 2: with a million files in it, which may be five
1:45:02
Speaker 2: million pages, and there's only two people guilty. I'm not
1:45:06
Speaker 2: buying it. Oh, no, show us the draft indictments where
1:45:10
Speaker 2: they had other people to indict that they didn't indict.
1:45:13
Speaker 2: What happened with those indictments?
1:45:16
Speaker 1: Well, I think if you're betting, and you're you wanted
1:45:20
Speaker 1: to put your money on a safe bet, I would
1:45:22
Speaker 1: argue that anybody else who was facing an indictment probably
1:45:25
Speaker 1: reached an out of court settlement with the victim and
1:45:27
Speaker 1: a which also included a confidentiality agreement. Just one thought.
1:45:32
Speaker 1: You can't get someone to testify you in a criminal trial.
1:45:35
Speaker 1: You've already bought them off. There isn't going to be one.
1:45:39
Speaker 1: Let's see Congress and Masthews.
1:45:41
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and so our bill requires disclosure of those agreements.
1:45:46
Speaker 2: Like we are pioneering here. This had This has never
1:45:52
Speaker 2: been done, as far as I know, in the history
1:45:54
Speaker 2: of your country. Nobody actually got a law passed that said,
1:45:58
Speaker 2: for a specific case, you have to give us the
1:46:00
Speaker 2: grand jury material, you have to give us everything.
1:46:04
Speaker 1: Well, that may answer some of the questions about Donald
1:46:07
Speaker 1: Trump's unleashing ire upon you and calling you the worst
1:46:10
Speaker 1: Republican congressman. Just a thought. We'll continue with Congressman MASSI.
1:46:13
Speaker 1: We'll find out what the government shutdown based upon defunding ICE.
1:46:16
Speaker 1: Really maybe a word er chowing Venezuela and perhaps Ron
1:46:20
Speaker 1: Thomas Massey Moore after this quick oh no, after these
1:46:23
Speaker 1: brief words.
1:46:24
Speaker 7: This is fifth station.
1:46:27
Speaker 1: Hey twenty here fifty five krc DE talk station. Happy Wednesday,
1:46:30
Speaker 1: Judgenna Paulatano coming up next after well, may we finished
1:46:33
Speaker 1: the conversation we're having right now with Congressman Thomas Massey.
1:46:36
Speaker 1: Looks like are we going to face another government shutdown?
1:46:38
Speaker 1: I know it was all about the Obamacare COVID era
1:46:42
Speaker 1: subsidies before masking the reality of the epic failure that
1:46:46
Speaker 1: is Obamacare and doing nothing to lower the cost of healthcare,
1:46:49
Speaker 1: just masking it. That was one reason we went through that.
1:46:52
Speaker 1: Are we going to do that? Again, or is it
1:46:53
Speaker 1: now going to be over ice funding, which I've heard
1:46:56
Speaker 1: some elected officials argue it should be.
1:47:01
Speaker 2: I would argue it should be over something else. By
1:47:03
Speaker 2: the way, the deadline is January thirtieth. The House is
1:47:07
Speaker 2: proceeding by passing mini buses, okay, but these aren't necessarily
1:47:12
Speaker 2: being passed in the Senate. And I think we could
1:47:15
Speaker 2: hit an impasse here pretty soon because I don't know
1:47:19
Speaker 2: how many of my colleagues are going to agree to
1:47:21
Speaker 2: fund the fraudulent daycare centers in Minnesota, and how many
1:47:27
Speaker 2: will agree to fund the National Endowment for Democracy. This
1:47:31
Speaker 2: is like a three hundred million dollar fund that has
1:47:35
Speaker 2: been widely recognized now as a leftist but also a
1:47:38
Speaker 2: neocon source of meddling in the world. But the money
1:47:42
Speaker 2: also comes back and influences our own government. I've offered
1:47:48
Speaker 2: an amendment and I've co sponsored an amendment to take
1:47:52
Speaker 2: out the money for the National Endowment for Democracy. It'll
1:47:55
Speaker 2: be interesting to see how that plays out this week
1:47:58
Speaker 2: and then in quin weeks before January thirtieth. I've already
1:48:03
Speaker 2: got my amendments written to target basically to reduce and
1:48:08
Speaker 2: eliminate this fraud in Minnesota. I don't know if you
1:48:13
Speaker 2: saw the president. This administration tried to withhold funding from
1:48:18
Speaker 2: five of the states where it's clearly fraudulent, and a
1:48:22
Speaker 2: judge ruled that you can't withhold the funding. He's got
1:48:26
Speaker 2: to send the funding there. And people are like, how
1:48:28
Speaker 2: can a judge have this much power? The reason the
1:48:31
Speaker 2: judge has that power to make that ruling.
1:48:34
Speaker 13: Is the President signed to freaking bill that funds all
1:48:37
Speaker 13: the fraudulent daycarees and Congress passed it. And we've got
1:48:41
Speaker 13: a chance January thirtieth to basically stop that. And then
1:48:45
Speaker 13: the judge can't make the president spend the money. All
1:48:48
Speaker 13: we got to do is change it in law. Spending
1:48:50
Speaker 13: bills are law, and that is coming up. That deadline
1:48:53
Speaker 13: is coming up January thirtieth.
1:48:55
Speaker 1: Hey, is it too much of an ask when drafting
1:48:59
Speaker 1: legs in connection with any large government program where a
1:49:02
Speaker 1: lot of money is going to be flowing out to
1:49:04
Speaker 1: the masses, to put in upfront protection measures that would
1:49:08
Speaker 1: prevent fraud, waste, and abuse before the money goes out
1:49:11
Speaker 1: the door of Congress from MASSI.
1:49:14
Speaker 2: That is, I've already drafted the amendment to do that. Literally,
1:49:17
Speaker 2: it mirrors what the president is trying to do that.
1:49:19
Speaker 2: The judge has shut down. I draft an amendment that says,
1:49:23
Speaker 2: if you find fraud in a state, you can implement
1:49:27
Speaker 2: these safeguards, these guard rails before the money flows to
1:49:31
Speaker 2: that state. I literally wrote that into legislation. It's ready
1:49:35
Speaker 2: to go into the bill if the Rules Committee will
1:49:38
Speaker 2: allow it. It would get a vote on the floor
1:49:40
Speaker 2: of the House. And it's just common sense. But here's
1:49:44
Speaker 2: what I predict what happened, Brian. I predict there will
1:49:46
Speaker 2: not be a shutdown. I predict myself and several other
1:49:51
Speaker 2: Conservatives at the end are going to say, this is insanity.
1:49:55
Speaker 2: We cannot fund all the fraudulent stuff that we just found.
1:49:59
Speaker 2: We're not voting for this. And what they'll do is
1:50:01
Speaker 2: they'll go over to the other side of the aisle
1:50:03
Speaker 2: of the Democrats, and of course the Democrats will vote
1:50:06
Speaker 2: for it. If it's got the fraudulent funding and the
1:50:10
Speaker 2: refugee resettlement funds and all that other stuff in it,
1:50:13
Speaker 2: they'll lap that up. It'll be the unipart it'll be
1:50:16
Speaker 2: a uniparty bill on January thirtieth, and then the President
1:50:19
Speaker 2: won't complain until after he signs the bill and it
1:50:24
Speaker 2: Judge says, no, wait, you're signing the build that funds
1:50:26
Speaker 2: all this stuff.
1:50:29
Speaker 1: Oh great, this is why we have you Congress with
1:50:31
Speaker 1: Messi to boil it down to its darkest terms.
1:50:36
Speaker 2: You also wouldn't know, you wouldn't have somebody introducing legislation
1:50:40
Speaker 2: that's bold enough to take out the fraudulent stuff. They
1:50:44
Speaker 2: will literally probably shut me down in the Rules Committee.
1:50:47
Speaker 2: I was on the Rules Committee for two years. I
1:50:49
Speaker 2: know how that works. This is where Republicans need to
1:50:53
Speaker 2: make their stand. There are nine Republicans and four Democrats
1:50:56
Speaker 2: on the Rules Committee. It would be so easy. You
1:50:59
Speaker 2: don't even need every Republican. You only need seven Republicans
1:51:02
Speaker 2: on the Rules Committee to put these amendments in there.
1:51:05
Speaker 2: That's that's where the stronghold is. But I'm going to
1:51:10
Speaker 2: predict all nine Republicans cave on the Rules Committee, don't
1:51:14
Speaker 2: put it in there, and then complain later that the
1:51:17
Speaker 2: fund that the money's in there.
1:51:19
Speaker 1: Well, why don't you use social media to out the
1:51:22
Speaker 1: names of the Republicans that are on the Rules Committee
1:51:24
Speaker 1: so we can bring about some measure of pressure from
1:51:26
Speaker 1: at least my listening audience and everybody else who follows
1:51:29
Speaker 1: you on social media to get their phones ringing, their
1:51:32
Speaker 1: emails lit up, and the social media accounts overwhelmed with
1:51:35
Speaker 1: you know, basically not threats but demands and and and
1:51:40
Speaker 1: please to get what you want done.
1:51:44
Speaker 2: I I linked. I didn't put their names on there,
1:51:46
Speaker 2: but I put a link to the Rules Committee website
1:51:48
Speaker 2: which has their names on it, so that folks can
1:51:51
Speaker 2: find out if it's one of their congressmen that's on
1:51:53
Speaker 2: the Rules Committee. But just go to the Rules Committee website.
1:51:58
Speaker 2: It's right there. The nine republic that need to hear
1:52:01
Speaker 2: put this in there. It's where it's where Lucy takes
1:52:05
Speaker 2: the football from the voters every single time. It's in
1:52:11
Speaker 2: the Rules Committee and.
1:52:12
Speaker 1: Apparently where Republicans. Republicans stabbed their own constituents in the
1:52:17
Speaker 1: committee in the back. Congressman Thomas Massey find the Rules
1:52:22
Speaker 1: Committee listeners, get in touch with Republicans on the Rules Committee,
1:52:25
Speaker 1: tell him to heed Congressman Massey's warning and get it done.
1:52:29
Speaker 1: Congressman Thomas Massey can't thank you so much for joining
1:52:32
Speaker 1: the program. Keep fighting the good fight, and keep believing
1:52:35
Speaker 1: in the supreme supreme law of the land because so
1:52:38
Speaker 1: many people just conveniently like to ignore it.
1:52:41
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1:52:50
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Speaker 1: face on the zoom connection. He's kind of fading in
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Speaker 1: and out. Congressman Massey, I know you're busy holding on
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Speaker 1: online waiting to hear from the judge.
1:53:37
Speaker 5: Something about a dog dressed up with Thomas Maddy.
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Speaker 2: Did I catch that you did?
1:53:42
Speaker 1: It's your dog apparently dress up your Pet Day or something.
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Speaker 1: But Congressman Thomas Massey is literally listening right now. Is
1:53:50
Speaker 1: he decided to hold after my conversation in the last
1:53:53
Speaker 1: segment with him because he wanted to hear what you
1:53:54
Speaker 1: had to say today. Welcome back to the Morning Show. Sir,
1:53:57
Speaker 1: it's a pleasure having you.
1:53:58
Speaker 5: Well, thank you, Brian. Sorry that we can't see each other.
1:54:01
Speaker 5: I don't know what their technical glitch is. And I
1:54:04
Speaker 5: did not know that the greatest defender of the Constitution
1:54:09
Speaker 5: the modern era was on right before me, or would
1:54:12
Speaker 5: have come on a little bit earlier so that I
1:54:14
Speaker 5: could hear what he was saying. But Emerson Massy, thank
1:54:18
Speaker 5: you for taking the time to listen to us.
1:54:21
Speaker 1: Well, you know you would have been You would have
1:54:23
Speaker 1: enjoyed the conversation and your column, which I read an
1:54:26
Speaker 1: assault on the Republic. You're very critical of Donald Trump,
1:54:30
Speaker 1: and I understand that, and you know I occasionally, and
1:54:32
Speaker 1: I'm warning my listening audience, do not call Joe Strecker
1:54:35
Speaker 1: and complain about the judges thoughts and commentary. Joe has
1:54:38
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. It's kind of crazy. Anytime
1:54:41
Speaker 1: you're critical in any way, shape or form of Donald Trump,
1:54:43
Speaker 1: the phones light up and Joe Strecker gets the brunt
1:54:46
Speaker 1: of the of the of the argument. But quite often
1:54:48
Speaker 1: they're not seeing through to the legal arguments that you
1:54:53
Speaker 1: are making. They're only hearing the criticism of the person
1:54:57
Speaker 1: who is caught runs contrary to you your perception of
1:55:01
Speaker 1: the law. The one thing I wanted to take from
1:55:03
Speaker 1: your column, which can spring from it. In the last segment,
1:55:05
Speaker 1: we talked to Congressman Thomas Massey about the law that
1:55:09
Speaker 1: is on the books which forced the government to release
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Speaker 1: the Epstein files by I guess it was the nineteenth
1:55:15
Speaker 1: last month or something. They didn't do it. There's apparently
1:55:18
Speaker 1: a million plus documents behind the scene. Bondie won't release them.
1:55:22
Speaker 1: No one will release them. They're going to have to
1:55:23
Speaker 1: go to court. They might have to file a contempt hearing.
1:55:26
Speaker 1: There is no fidelity to the rule of law. This
1:55:30
Speaker 1: is not faithfully upholding the Constitution and the laws of
1:55:33
Speaker 1: the United States of America. And I quite frankly am
1:55:37
Speaker 1: puzzled by the whole thing. But here's yet another illustration
1:55:40
Speaker 1: of fast and loose with the well the power.
1:55:45
Speaker 5: You know, I have been arguing, and I do this
1:55:49
Speaker 5: with deference and respect here listeners, not to arouse them,
1:55:53
Speaker 5: but I've been arguing that there is a direct line
1:55:56
Speaker 5: to be drawn between what's happening in the street to
1:56:00
Speaker 5: Minneapolis and what happened in a bedroom in Caracas. This
1:56:05
Speaker 5: is all and what happened in the speedboat and fishing
1:56:10
Speaker 5: boat killings in the Caribbean. This is all a specie
1:56:14
Speaker 5: of might makes right. This is all a specie of
1:56:17
Speaker 5: rejecting the laws. When the president takes his oath of office,
1:56:23
Speaker 5: he promises to faithfully exercise his duties. The customers that
1:56:29
Speaker 5: convention debated over the word faithfully, and Madison quite properly
1:56:33
Speaker 5: was worried that without that word in there, presidents would
1:56:36
Speaker 5: take the oath as carte blanche to enforce the laws
1:56:39
Speaker 5: they liked and forget about the laws they disliked. But
1:56:42
Speaker 5: by putting the word faithfully in there, the president and
1:56:46
Speaker 5: everybody in the executive branch, including the Attorney General, is
1:56:49
Speaker 5: subject to the laws, whether they like them or not.
1:56:53
Speaker 5: Congressman Massey happens to have ridden the crest of a
1:56:58
Speaker 5: wave which resulted in all members of Congress but one
1:57:03
Speaker 5: voting for this legislation, legislation that three days before it
1:57:07
Speaker 5: was voted on, the President was still twisting arms to
1:57:11
Speaker 5: try and get people not to vote or not to
1:57:13
Speaker 5: sign the discharge impetition. So the Congress's voice is loud
1:57:22
Speaker 5: and clear. Oh yeah, the President reluctantly signed this legislation
1:57:26
Speaker 5: as the law she has no choice but to comply
1:57:29
Speaker 5: with it. He can leak all he wants to the
1:57:32
Speaker 5: Wall Street Journal that he doesn't like her. He can
1:57:35
Speaker 5: tell us attorney's all he wants. You guys are losing
1:57:38
Speaker 5: too many cases. But when it comes down to brass tacks,
1:57:42
Speaker 5: the DOJ is not enforcing the law when it has
1:57:46
Speaker 5: to be enforced against themselves.
1:57:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, and as Massey pointed out, you know, it's a
1:57:51
Speaker 1: new law, so it supersedes some of the earlier laws
1:57:54
Speaker 1: that were on the book. Did some are arguing are
1:57:57
Speaker 1: being violated because the new law says, release all the
1:58:00
Speaker 1: Epstein files, including the FBI records, and maybe the settlement
1:58:05
Speaker 1: agreements that have been reached between some noted notables and
1:58:07
Speaker 1: anybody who might have been molested. You know, as he
1:58:10
Speaker 1: pointed out, you know, you can't tell me with a
1:58:12
Speaker 1: million files and maybe five million documents, only two people
1:58:17
Speaker 1: have been held accountable for this, Juleane Maxwell and Epstein.
1:58:22
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just too much there there and it
1:58:25
Speaker 1: just ends up demanding the American public demands of all
1:58:28
Speaker 1: political stripes. Give us the damned documents, let us draw
1:58:31
Speaker 1: our own conclusions. That's what the law says.
1:58:33
Speaker 5: Correct and Congressman Nasi is correct. As a matter of law,
1:58:38
Speaker 5: a newly enacted legislation, just like a subsequently enacted amendment
1:58:45
Speaker 5: to the Constitution. Trump's lowercase t that which preceded it.
1:58:51
Speaker 5: Congress is presumed to intend to have overridden whatever might
1:58:57
Speaker 5: be inconsistent with what it has, just so, the Epstein
1:59:01
Speaker 5: Transparency Act is the law of the land. In the
1:59:07
Speaker 5: Attorney General, she keeps claiming she has four hundred lawyers
1:59:10
Speaker 5: and one hundred FBI agents going through the files. Nobody
1:59:13
Speaker 5: believes that it couldn't possibly be taking them that long.
1:59:17
Speaker 5: What are they redacting when they redact? Congressman Massing knows
1:59:20
Speaker 5: that's better than I. They have to say what it is,
1:59:23
Speaker 5: not who it is, but what it is. This was
1:59:26
Speaker 5: redacted because it identified a thirteen year old girl who
1:59:30
Speaker 5: was abused on the day. They have to put that
1:59:33
Speaker 5: in the margin. They have done that. None of these
1:59:35
Speaker 5: redactions explain in the margin what is being redacted or
1:59:40
Speaker 5: why it was redacted. It is clear they don't want
1:59:44
Speaker 5: to do their job. Dan Bongino resigned over this. I'm
1:59:48
Speaker 5: not a Dan Bongino fan, but I believe he's been
1:59:51
Speaker 5: intellectually honest in this respect. It is clear something's being hidden,
1:59:56
Speaker 5: and they're going to drag their feet as long as.
1:59:59
Speaker 1: They can, obviously, And of course that just ends up
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Speaker 1: raising burning questions like how come Donald Trump campaign to
2:00:06
Speaker 1: releasing the Epstein files and then immediately did one to
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Speaker 1: eighty after he was elected and said there's nothing to
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Speaker 1: see there. I'm sorry, man, I can't abide by that,
2:00:14
Speaker 1: whether it's a Republican or Democrat or anybody else in office.
2:00:18
Speaker 1: And apparently, as you point out, overwhelmingly approve the legislation
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Speaker 1: to produce them. This is the first time I've seen
2:00:25
Speaker 1: an exercise and bipartisanship along this level in as far
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Speaker 1: back as I can remember.
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Speaker 5: Correct, you know, Congressman Massy, in the most divisive partisan
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Speaker 5: era in modern memory in the Congress, demonstrated that when
2:00:43
Speaker 5: you articulate clearly a value, and when the value resonates
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Speaker 5: in people's hearts hear the truth, you can achieve a
2:00:53
Speaker 5: bipartisan goal. I can't imagine the Congressman Massy's voting record
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Speaker 5: coincides with Congressman Roe Kahana no All, but in this respect,
2:01:06
Speaker 5: they achieved a marvelous by partisan role because they appealed
2:01:11
Speaker 5: to people's sense of truth and honesty and fairness. And
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Speaker 5: they did this in the most radically partisan Congress in
2:01:20
Speaker 5: recent memory. Congress so radically partisan that the leadership of
2:01:25
Speaker 5: each party doesn't even want to talk to each other.
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Speaker 1: Well, going back to Congressman Massey's record, he did bring
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Speaker 1: that up in s by the way Donald Trump might
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Speaker 1: lead you to believe, calling him, I believe the worst
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Speaker 1: Republican congressman that exists, ninety one percent of his votes
2:01:40
Speaker 1: went with the Republican Party judge of Politizer. So he's
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Speaker 1: got a sound record. If you just don't look at
2:01:45
Speaker 1: any one given piece of legislation or anyone given position,
2:01:51
Speaker 1: can I pivot of a real quickly, sir? The oral
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Speaker 1: arguments on in connection with upholding the transgender sports bands
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Speaker 1: that exist in a multitude states, argued yesterday. And in
2:02:02
Speaker 1: spite of the fact that I did practice law for
2:02:04
Speaker 1: quite a long time, I don't consider myself a constitutional lawyer,
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Speaker 1: but I will profess in reading not just the entire opinion,
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Speaker 1: in just reading the summaries of it. A lot of confusion.
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Speaker 1: Considering that someone calling themselves a sex that they're not
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Speaker 1: already confuses me. The line of questioning back and forth.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I had a difficult time working my way
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Speaker 1: through it, even though the general consensus from the legal
2:02:29
Speaker 1: experts is the Supreme Court looks like it'll be upholding
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Speaker 1: the transgender sports bans. Any reaction from what you've read
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Speaker 1: about the arguments yesterday, sir well.
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Speaker 5: I could not agree with you, mal Thank you. Much
2:02:42
Speaker 5: of what Justice Kavanaugh said was psychobabble out of the
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Speaker 5: editorial pages of newspapers, have nothing to do, nothing to
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Speaker 5: do with the law. Even my former debate partner and
2:02:57
Speaker 5: longtime friend and Princeton classmate, Justice Alito, I thought, got
2:03:02
Speaker 5: off into the weeds. The issue here is the right
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Speaker 5: of the states to legislate for health and safety versus
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Speaker 5: the commands of the Congress that the state not discriminate
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Speaker 5: on the basis of sex.
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Speaker 2: What does that.
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Speaker 5: Word mean In nineteen sixty four, when the first of
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Speaker 5: these statutes was written, and in nineteen seventy two, when
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Speaker 5: the second of these statutes was written, it meant gender.
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Speaker 5: Today it has such a broad meaning that it has
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Speaker 5: anything whatsoever to.
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Speaker 2: Do with sex.
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Speaker 5: My person I admire most on the Court was did
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Speaker 5: not tip his hand yesterday, Justice Gorsuch. He's the one
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Speaker 5: who wrote the opinion along with the liberals on the Court,
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Speaker 5: applying the Civil Rights Act of sixty four to LGBTQ,
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Speaker 5: even though the Senate expressly rejected that. In sixty four,
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Speaker 5: twice they used a word sex, which today means sexuality.
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Speaker 5: So it's it's hard to fathom what is meant by
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Speaker 5: this word today compared to what it was meant by
2:04:15
Speaker 5: it two generations ago. But it's pretty clear this will
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Speaker 5: be five to four, the Chief Justice with the Conservatives
2:04:22
Speaker 5: and Corsage with the liberals, upholding the right of the
2:04:26
Speaker 5: state to protect little girls from competition by biological boys.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's hope that common sense prevails. And look how
2:04:35
Speaker 1: far we've come. Where you and I would have agreed
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Speaker 1: all day long, as would every single physician on the planet,
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Speaker 1: that sex is whether you're a male or female, defined
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Speaker 1: by your chromosomal reality. Boy, we have gone way, way,
2:04:46
Speaker 1: way the hell away from that. But that's what was
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Speaker 1: thought about and discussed when they passed the title nine, right,
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Speaker 1: that's all they were considering context right.
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Speaker 5: Now when they passed it. When they passed this stuff
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Speaker 5: in sixty four and seventy two, the concept of gender
2:05:02
Speaker 5: transitioning wasn't even in the wildest imaginations of Ballmaker's much.
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Speaker 2: Less doctors.
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Speaker 1: Reinvent history, much in the way they're reinventing the language
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Speaker 1: and definitions that we use radically, sounding like or well
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Speaker 1: in the Ministry of truth. The judge entered Apolitano. God
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Speaker 1: bless you, sir. I know the Congressman mass has been
2:05:24
Speaker 1: enjoying the conversation, and I appreciate your support to him,
2:05:27
Speaker 1: and he appreciate heates his I know you appreciate his
2:05:31
Speaker 1: support of you.
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Speaker 7: Sir.
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Speaker 1: We'll have you on next Wednesday. Do it again. God
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Speaker 1: bless you, and thanks again for your commentary.
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Speaker 2: Sir.
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Speaker 5: Thank you all the best to Congressman Massy, to you
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Speaker 5: and to your audience.
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Speaker 1: Brian appreciate it much. It's eight forty four right now
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