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Ennis vs Stanionis Preview & Pick! Bivol Drops WBC Strap, Weekend Recap & Fight News! · The Rope A Dope Radio Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, what up, boxing fans. This is the Rope of
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  Speaker 1: Dope radio podcast. I am your host, Chris Carlson. We
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  Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about. We do have a
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  Speaker 1: lot to talk about from over the weekend. There's about
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  Speaker 1: four fights that I'll zoom in on. Hergovic got a
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  Speaker 1: big win over Joyce. Where does Joyce go from here?
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  Speaker 1: And really what's the potential? Now? Where does Hergevic go
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  Speaker 1: from here? Speaking of go from here? Ten zuo, right,
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  Speaker 1: where does he go from here? Well, at least up
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  Speaker 1: compared to where he was at the end of twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four. He got a good win. You know, Joey
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  Speaker 1: Spencer's more of a fringe contender guy, of course, but
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  Speaker 1: he needed to kind of you know, not kind of.
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  Speaker 1: He had to get back in the winning call. There's
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  Speaker 1: no doubt about that. So he got a big win.
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  Speaker 1: Jeanavic also won, right, hopefully he gets a big fight.
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  Speaker 1: But Torres Junior, you know, it was a sloppy fight.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna be in a lot of them. I did
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  Speaker 1: like what he did with this free hand, and it
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  Speaker 1: was a nice win, really nice win. I got to
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  Speaker 1: give him credit. I gotta admit I haven't been all
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  Speaker 1: that high on Torres Junior. I'm still not completely sold
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  Speaker 1: on him, but he's coming around and hopefully somewhere along
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  Speaker 1: this level is where his opponent is, and then you
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  Speaker 1: know thereafter keep moving him up to an extent anyway, right,
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to just put him in there with
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  Speaker 1: someone way up there. But yeah, it was a good win.
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  Speaker 1: And also del Gatto Rodriguez. I'll go round by round
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  Speaker 1: with that one as well, because I didn't think the
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  Speaker 1: scorecards were right on that then. Of course, previewing predictions
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  Speaker 1: for in Stanonius, really really looking forward to this fight.
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  Speaker 1: I think on paper, stanionis Is is his best opponent.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's the best fighter he's faced. Karen gave
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  Speaker 1: him plenty to think about, especially in that second fight
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  Speaker 1: getting hit with a bunch of left hands. But we'll see,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes, and obviously we'll go over
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  Speaker 1: some fight news as well. Beval decides to drop the
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  Speaker 1: WBC belt, not a big surprise. I'll give you my
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on the whole scenario. Eddie Hearn actually on IFL
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  Speaker 1: TV just said a couple of things, confirming a couple
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  Speaker 1: of things, whether that may be an offer or what
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  Speaker 1: they choose to do. But you know, it obviously sucks
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  Speaker 1: for David Benavitez. Let's see what his next opponent will be.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm not one percent sold to be Calliam Smith.
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  Speaker 1: Politics may play a part in it. He may want
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  Speaker 1: to keep his positioning meaning him, meaning he meaning Tlliam Smith.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll see Keishaw Davis, Edwin Delasanto's sounds like the
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  Speaker 1: so let's get into where should we. Let's start with
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  Speaker 1: Hergavic and Joyce, shall we. You know, I didn't think
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  Speaker 1: Joyce really stood a great chance of winning this fight.
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  Speaker 1: The style matchup was not there beyond you know, maybe Hergavic,
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  Speaker 1: you know, gassing out and whatnot. You know, that was
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  Speaker 1: that was a possibility, but it was. I mean, Joyce
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  Speaker 1: definitely did good. A little too late, I would say,
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  Speaker 1: but he did good. You know, he did all right,
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  Speaker 1: I should say, not great, But I thought the first
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  Speaker 1: two rounds in many of the early rounds the jab
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  Speaker 1: and the jab right hand, you know, some late combinations
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  Speaker 1: of the first round Joyce and I was wondering how
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  Speaker 1: he would, you know, would he just go in there
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  Speaker 1: face first and try to knock him out like you
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  Speaker 1: know his style and when he's the best now you
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  Speaker 1: know the defense and the chin and all that. You
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  Speaker 1: know it. It's not the best for him that way,
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  Speaker 1: I guess you could say, but if you want to
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  Speaker 1: win the fight, I think that was the best method.
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  Speaker 1: He was circling in that range with the jab. He
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  Speaker 1: did land a late right hand, but I still, you know,
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  Speaker 1: definitely gave Hergevic the first and the second. He landed
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  Speaker 1: some really good hooks and right hands early. There was
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  Speaker 1: a cut I believe that was the second round above
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  Speaker 1: the left eye, and you know Joyce is jabbing, but
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  Speaker 1: you know he was more on the back foot a
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  Speaker 1: little too much. The cleaner lands I gave to Hergavic
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  Speaker 1: in the third round, and I did give Joyce. I
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  Speaker 1: thought his first round that he won. Jab and rights
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  Speaker 1: to the body were kind of the key for him.
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  Speaker 1: I gave him the fourth round. Urga Vic later in
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  Speaker 1: the fourth did land some decent shots, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it was good enough. I did give the fifth
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  Speaker 1: Hergevic once again those left hooks early in that round,
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  Speaker 1: a late right hand and just right hands in general,
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  Speaker 1: and to me, at times in this fight, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: circling and all that, and at range and moving too
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  Speaker 1: much in my opinion for his style. Anyway, I also
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  Speaker 1: thought at times a little bit, not all the time,
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  Speaker 1: but Joyce was also arm punching, just kind of move
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  Speaker 1: in his arms, and you know, maybe that's he can't
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  Speaker 1: really get as much on it. Maybe he was just
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  Speaker 1: kind of getting his shots off and then dipping to
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  Speaker 1: not get hit. I don't know, but I did notice that. However,
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  Speaker 1: I thought he actually landed the better in the sixth round.
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  Speaker 1: So it was four to two at the half point,
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  Speaker 1: and it was obviously just a ten rounder, and Hergovic
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  Speaker 1: won the seventh. You know, early and late, he closed
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  Speaker 1: strong as well, the left hoach, the jab the right hand.
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  Speaker 1: Joyce was kind of just doing the some busy work.
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  Speaker 1: But the one two's for me did it there. I did, however,
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  Speaker 1: give Joyce, who jabbed to the body really well, a
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  Speaker 1: couple of looping right hands as well. I gave him
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  Speaker 1: the eighth in the ninth two way round. That was
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  Speaker 1: a close round. I thought in the last part of
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  Speaker 1: that round the ninth that big right hand may have
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  Speaker 1: stole it for Hergevic. But it was close, and I
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  Speaker 1: thought Hergevic stronger. He landed the better shots from the tent.
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  Speaker 1: So I had it seven to three, six to four,
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  Speaker 1: something like that. The scorecards read ninety eight ywo ninety seven,
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  Speaker 1: ninety three and ninety six ninety five. I believe it
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  Speaker 1: was yeah, all for Hergevic, and yeah, I thought they
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  Speaker 1: got it right, you know. And I just don't know
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  Speaker 1: where Joe goes from here. To be honest, I really don't.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sad, you know, pack it up, you're worthless,
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  Speaker 1: you know. But and it wasn't like a brutal loss
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  Speaker 1: that I will say that. But it's kind of just
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  Speaker 1: like where he's at because right now it doesn't even
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  Speaker 1: feel like he has the confidence to knock somebody out
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  Speaker 1: in the top ten. You know, maybe a fringe contender
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  Speaker 1: he could he could knock out. But if fights like that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he just lost it to soa his age.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. But Hergevic, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: he looked good. He looked good. You're always gonna wonder
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  Speaker 1: late in rounds if someone's really pressuring him and can
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  Speaker 1: hurt him. Allah Daniel Dubois, you know, can he survive that?
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a fair question, you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's a fair question. And uh, we'll see. But Hergevic,
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  Speaker 1: I thought he fought really well. You know, he only
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  Speaker 1: took that one loss. He's got pop on his punches.
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  Speaker 1: He has some pretty good wins. Obviously you got that
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  Speaker 1: Zang win a while back. So I'm looking forward to see,
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  Speaker 1: you know, his next fight, and we'll see who the
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  Speaker 1: opponent is. Is it a step up from here? I
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  Speaker 1: hope so, because you might as well find out where
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  Speaker 1: you're at again, you know. But Hergevic, he was steady.
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  Speaker 1: He was steady. He didn't overdo it, But would he
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  Speaker 1: have He probably would have had to, you know, exert
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  Speaker 1: himself more had someone really tried to force the fight
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  Speaker 1: with him, you know, like I said, just like Daniel Dubois.
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  Speaker 1: So we really don't know that part per se. As
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  Speaker 1: far as him gassing out and stuff like that and
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  Speaker 1: being able to take big punches back. He made it
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  Speaker 1: through Zang, but Sang gassed out, you know, So that's
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  Speaker 1: that played a huge part. But either way, very good performance,
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  Speaker 1: got the job done. I'm just gonna kind of keep
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: it tight today that David Adelie had to win. There
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: was some you know, it was a sixth round TKO.
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  Speaker 1: There was a little controversy with hitting you know, during
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  Speaker 1: the clinch, during the break and the referee did say
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  Speaker 1: break twice and all that, but earlier in the fight
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  Speaker 1: that dude was doing it too, So I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like lived by the sword,
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  Speaker 1: die by the sword, you know. For me to be
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  Speaker 1: honest with you, I just think that a lot was made.
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  Speaker 1: It was kind of like a like a Twitter clip.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was made up to be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more. And if you only look at that part,
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  Speaker 1: you're like, wait a second, that was a cheap shot,
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  Speaker 1: and sure, but the thing it was, but he did
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  Speaker 1: some of that as well, right, And also we see
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  Speaker 1: like you know, cheap shots, cheap shot excuse me, all
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  Speaker 1: the time in boxing or low blows are hitting on
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  Speaker 1: the hip or so yeah, it was a cheap shot,
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  Speaker 1: but I saw it go both ways. It during the fight,
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  Speaker 1: So I don't really think. I don't know, maybe they'll
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  Speaker 1: be a rematch. I don't know. But either way, let's
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: move on. Abdula Mason got the job done. JAHI Tucker
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: beat Troy Williamson. A couple other results as well, but
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  Speaker 1: I want to focus in on Torres Junior and Vianello,
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  Speaker 1: and also Rodriguez and del Gatto. Let's start with Torres.
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  Speaker 1: And like I said, I it's taken me a while.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even fully sold on Richard Torres Junior. But
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  Speaker 1: he had a nice little walkout. I will say that
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little set up at the piano and all that,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know. Like he is a rough and
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  Speaker 1: rugged guy. He does know how to punch with his
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  Speaker 1: free hand. It seems like he can take a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good shot. We'll see, you know, ultimately, I think that'll
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  Speaker 1: be clearly hit. The way he fights, his chin is
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to hold up, and that's what I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, not everybody's gonna fight like exactly the
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  Speaker 1: way we want them to write. Some dudes are just
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  Speaker 1: gonna be like a bulldog and that's their best way.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's one hand free you hit him with
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  Speaker 1: the hook and it surprises the guy, and you do
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  Speaker 1: it again, and you know, in your rough house and
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  Speaker 1: he's got to get on the inside somehow. I thought
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  Speaker 1: that Vanello it does kind of force a clinch, It
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  Speaker 1: does force defenders to do something, and it makes him
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  Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable. A lot of times, I would just say
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  Speaker 1: with Torres Junior, it's he does this is where the
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Sean Porter stuff comes in the smothering his own work too.
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  Speaker 1: So it's it's a fine line between being a bulldog
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  Speaker 1: bullying somebody coming on the inside, no matter if they're
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  Speaker 1: bigger than you or not, but then also smothering your
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  Speaker 1: own work. So it's a work in progress. But I
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: give him credit for this fight because Vannello is a
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: good fighter. I thought the first round was very close,
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: could have went either way, but Vanella was holding already
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: in really quick holding call point deducted in the second round,
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  Speaker 1: so it was a ten a round for me because
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  Speaker 1: I thought that free hand during the clinch was landed
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  Speaker 1: really well. In the third round, Torres Junior landed some
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  Speaker 1: good shots on the inside, some short shots midway through
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  Speaker 1: the round, though there was two clean clean lands and
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  Speaker 1: a couple down the stretch enough for me to give
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  Speaker 1: it to Viennello. The fourth round. You know, I thought
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  Speaker 1: that Guido actually landed better overall. But what makes it
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  Speaker 1: kind of a question mark is Torres did land a
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  Speaker 1: big right hand in it. You could make the argument
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  Speaker 1: it was the biggest land of the round. So do
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  Speaker 1: you just a lot of people, you know, we'll just
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  Speaker 1: give someone off of that, you know. But it wasn't
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: like pity pats coming from Viennello anyway. It's not like
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  Speaker 1: jab pitty pats, shoeshining to the stomach or something and
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  Speaker 1: then that's it and then one big punch. Oh that's
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  Speaker 1: easy to get that round. So I think that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of a swing round. I think the fifth round it
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  Speaker 1: was a spirited round man, Vanello right hands with the jab.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, a few big looping lands, a couple of
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  Speaker 1: them could have went either way. So maybe with the
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  Speaker 1: fourth and fifth you kind of lend it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: blended to both guys. Sixth round I gave the Torres.
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  Speaker 1: Seventh round, I gave the Vanello. Eighth round. I gave
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  Speaker 1: to Torres those hard hooks up close, man, they they
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: were getting in left hooks. It was a left hook.
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  Speaker 1: I think that hurt, you know, in an exchange late
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  Speaker 1: in that eighth round. It was a left hook that
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: hurt Bianello and really the way he closed, I didn't
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: give him the seventh, but sixth round and on Torres
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  Speaker 1: really took over this fight. Ninth round Torres early combinations,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: a nice counter shot off the ropes from Viennello, but
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  Speaker 1: more right hooks came through enough to give him that round.
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  Speaker 1: And then the last part of the tenth like he
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  Speaker 1: I thought he closed a little bit stronger, you know,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: with combinations, so competitive fight. It was six floor tores
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  Speaker 1: for me, two ninety eight ninety one in a ninety
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  Speaker 1: seven ninety two. I didn't think ninety eight ninety one.
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  Speaker 1: I will say that I didn't think it was eight
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  Speaker 1: to two, So I didn't agree with that scorecard. But
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  Speaker 1: I thought he won the fight from what he did,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: you know, down the stretch, and so you know, I
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: thought I thought he won the fight fairly cleanly. Even
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: if it is six to four. It was like a
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: solid sex if that makes sense. So so yeah, I
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: gave Torres Junior that and like I said, continue at
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: this level of opponent and then you know, step it
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  Speaker 1: up whatever, slowly, but surely however you want to do it.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: But yeah, only I'm glad now that he you know,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: showed a lot in this fight. He is starting to
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: convince me a little more. I got. I gotta admit
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I'm coming around to him slowly, but I'm not. I'm
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: not sold on him just yet. But he's a fun
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: fighter to watch. And you know, h Porter, like I said,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Sean Porter kind of comes to mind. I think he
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Porter has more tools by a little bit to me, honest,
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  Speaker 1: And obviously he showed those tools even in competitive fights
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  Speaker 1: win loss, when or long lose. He showed it on
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  Speaker 1: a very high level. So I hate to try to
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: say he's as good as Porter, because in my opinion,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: he's not. He's got to prove that. But you know,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: it was some of the smothering, you know. And if
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I get you know, if he fights someone that knows
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: how to fight on the inside, he might be the
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: one getting surprised with short shots. But either way, very
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: good win. I gotta give him credit. And that, by
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the way, I did pick against him. I picked the upset.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Now I picked the upset in this next fight, and
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't get it, but I do think I should have,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Like that fucking matters right anyway. Delgado Rodriguez first and foremost,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Timothy Bradley was really bad in this fight as a broadcaster.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: The broadcast in general was and there was a lot
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: of negativity about Elvis Rodriguez. And don't get he wrong.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: When you watch him fight, he does hold back some stuff,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: you know, there's no doubt about it. But the things,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: it's like, he sets a narrative and then no matter what,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: he's got to keep that narrative, even if before our
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: eyes it's not happening, or it is happening what he's
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: asking Elvis to do. What I need from Elvis, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And it's like the second he does, you know, oh
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: he's falling it. You know. First of all, he was
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: falling in love with this certain punch that the left hand.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Right then he was falling in love with the right hook.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: It's like, well, dude, did you just get done saying
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: he should stop throwing his left hands or at least
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: set it up better, Which that's fair, you know, that
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: part was fair, But it was like he's already addressed
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  Speaker 1: to it, are you sure? Because he won that last round?
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Like so anyway, I just had to say that a
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: lot of people, and I say this every time trying
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: to get my point acrosses. A lot of people didn't
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: like the way Tim Bradley fought. I did. I did
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: like that. I like a lot of different styles, and
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I liked how he did his thing. I just didn't.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: And he could box a little cleaner and a little
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: more strategic, and he showed it later in his career
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: and at times in his career, but later he did,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: especially in that Marquess fight obviously, but as an announcer,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and we are dealing with even more biasedness, in platform
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: biasedness than we had previously what I had to do
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: with once HBO took over boxing, they were like the
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: tippy top and everyone's just trying to get to it.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Whereas now we had these we had these plat we
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: still have them, these platform deals, you know, so each
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: individual platform has their own issues with this. But I
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: just had to say it was a bad, bad night
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: for him. I did not. I thought it was relous.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: What are you saying about Elvis at times? Because it
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: wasn't happening yet, and so I don't know, Like I said,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: fall in love with your left hand? Du those a
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: bunch of right hooks? Oh, you can't just rely on
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the right hook shut the anyway del Gatto, I thought
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: won the first round. A few nice jabs the right
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: hand to the body, but it was slow. There was
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: a late hook to the some late hooks i'd say,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: say from Elvis to the body and head. But I
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: gave that to del Gatto. I gave the second round
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: to Rodriguez. Delgatto landed like a nice right hand to
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: the body in the chest. He did that throughout the fight.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: But the jab nice left hand, and the left hand
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: was landing to the to the body and head as well.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: So I gave him that. And del Gotta was doing
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: this this nice little thing, especially earlier in the fight,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: of taking like a half a step back or to
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the side, and then for his defense, you know, to
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: stay out of range, but not out of range to
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: punch to, you know. So he was ready to punch,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: although he would take this little step back. It was
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: pretty effective there for a while. So I gave him
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: the third. The jabs, few body shots. There was a
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: flush left hand that Rodriguez landed late, but I don't
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: think it was enough. I did give Rodriguez the fourth
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: because the second half he was more active. He was
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: landing either a left hook or a straight left hand
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: or I should say, a straight left or a right hook,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: So you know, it's two to two at that point.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I thought the fifth round was really really close, kind
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: of early to mid Delgado was landing a couple of
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: nice shots, but I did think that a couple nice
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: counters and body work just closing stronger in like the
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: second half of that fifth round. I thought it was
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: enough to give to Roderiguez, but it was close. That
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: was probably the closest round maybe of the fight, but
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: at least up until that point. Now, I gave it
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: right back to del Gatto though, the right hand to
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: the head and body, along with some hooks. So it's
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: three to three at the halfway point. And this is
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: where I just kind of saw it going Elvis's way.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: The jab just being busier, I landed like a really
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: nice flush late left hand. I gave him Rodriguez the seventh.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I gave him the eighth to he was just more
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: a sort of assertive. He was pushing del Gatto back
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Ninth round, although del Gatto, you know,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: did you know, do some stuff early in the second half.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Once again he picked up the pay nice right hook,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: and I think it was a left hook that knocked. Now,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: whether it was like off balance trip or just knocked
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Delgado off balance, I didn't hear them talking too much
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: about this, but it could have made a case that
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: because there was a punch landed, that it could have
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: been a knockdown because he clearly held the rope. So
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't Once again, it was very bias towards Delgatto.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I thought they didn't even really like hone in on
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: it too much, and that that they got to stop
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: the fight and be like, this is a atrocity. And
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: you know, I remember on Friday Night fights today at
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: List after something would go wrong, he would just have
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: a monologue. I'm not saying that needed to happen, but
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I thought that there was you know, it looked like
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: he held the rope and looked like a punch landed.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Now was there a little trip in there? Maybe was
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: he a little off balance? And got it was the
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: kind of off balanced slash trip slash you put yourself
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: in that position, so you you you were off balanced.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I think it's it's worth a discussion, but you know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: it is what it is. And then I gave the
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: jab in the right hand. I thought del Gatto closed better,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: and I did think even you know, Bradley was right
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: in this one. But the way he was going it
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: was almost like, and this is why he's gonna lose
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the fight. I didn't like how Elvis, you know, finished
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: that tenth round. I will say that you don't have
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: it in the bag, but it doesn't mean, well, you
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: didn't close strong, So forget all the rounds. You know,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: let's just count that one. But the way you know,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: so Bradley was talking about it, but it's not like
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: del Gatto was doing a whole lot either, you know,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: so it was kinda kind of whatever give or a take.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: But since I had it three three after six seven eight,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: now you know, like I had it, I had it
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: six to four then you know, six four, five four one,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: maybe five five. I could see a draw. I could
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: see a draw or maybe five four one. I don't
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: know if I can give six rounds. Let me see
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: three two more rounds down the stretch. Yeah, I don't know.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I mean five to five I'm cool with like that'd
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: be fine, you know what I mean. I could handle
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: five to five that that wouldn't be that that bad.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: But I thought he only won passed the six. I
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: thought he only won the tenth round, so that's four
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: rounds now. Like I said, the fifth was closed, so
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: if I swing it his way, then it's five five.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I can't I can't see six rounds. Really,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't see six rounds. So one had at ninety
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: five ninety five, the other had two of them had
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: ninety six ninety four for so two of them had
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: six four. And to be fair, had Elvis finished strong
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: in that round, it would have been a draw because
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: you would have had two score cards. Theoretically, obviously one
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: would go his way, the draw would go his way,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and then there'd be two draw cards. So it would
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: have been a draw. Had he just finished strong like
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: he did. Maybe he felt well, shit the last three rounds,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: you know, blah blah. I don't know. So that's where
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I think you could say something about Elvis Rodger. Yes,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: where you're like, that's kind of on you, dude. You
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: needed to finish that round better, the fight better and Jim.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: But I still thought he won. And maybe I'm biased
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: because I did, you know, I bet on the Maybe
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: there's some biases there, And you know that's the thing
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: about Elvis Rodriguez is he leaves stuff on the table
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: and many other fighters do too. But it's just I
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: don't know. It's like the tenth round to fight the
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: way he did, it just doesn't make sense, you know,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: it really doesn't make sense to me. I guess that
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: we see it plenty, but I just I don't know. Man.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: It was a little a little shaky, little shaky, but
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: good fight, competitive fight. I would have been fine with
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: the draw, not not, you know, I'd have been fine
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: with it. That'd been just fine. But it is what
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: it is. Delgado, like I said, he did some good stuff.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I like his right hand in the body. He's got
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: a pretty good jab. Like I said, that little step
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: back move is pretty effective. But I just thought like
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the better shots overall to me came from you know, Elvis.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I really did. I didn't think it was all that debatable,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: but you know, it is what it is. What are
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: you gonna do? You know, what are you gonna do?
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: What were the Someone left a message for me. I
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: saw it and they asked what were the punch des
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: So I did? I did? See? So Elvis through four
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: hundred eight to three hundred three hundred punches in a
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: ten rounders not that much. Thirty round, they both they
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: both land into the body basically the same overall lands
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: ninety four to eighty nine, So that was really close.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: The JAB favored you know, Elvis thirty three to twenty
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: sixty nine to sixty one as far as uh power punches,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: and he was more accurate with his power punch and
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: more accurate overall. But that's what I'm saying, Like he
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: threw a lot less and he was the one kind
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: of coming forward in it. But I don't know, but
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: it was a competitive fight, and so you know, it's
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: hard for me to complain too much in boxing when
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: we get, you know, a competitive fight. And Shauna Beck won.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: He knocked dude down in the first and the fifth
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: tko Jehanaviick, you know, like Geanabick right now, if you
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: look at the top four or five middleweights, you can
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: make an argument that he could beat them, all right,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: And I think that's fair. I think he can make
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: that argument. I'm not giving him the you know, just
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: giving it to him, but I think I think you
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: can make that argument. But I guess the only thing
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: that always came with that was the boogeyman thing, like
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: everybody's duck in him and so that always kind of
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: turned me off in a sense because it's like, all right, dude,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: like what are we doing here? You know, Like you know,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: but I just hope he gets like a sizeable fight
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: this next time because he deserves it and we need
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: to see him at a higher level, you know. And
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: like I said, he definitely deserves it. So there was
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: also was it or or fought like he got some
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: decent rounds doing that on that Joy's card Murphy and Magid.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: That was that was a good fight. That was a
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: good fight. The oh god, what was that other one?
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Zara bec Zara bec and who's al That was a
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: good fight too. That was that was fun to watch.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: But jelll off, Jela la la la la off. It's
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, his opponent level, it's just weak, and you
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: know this whole thing of like, you know, I don't know,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: like he wants to try to go to the Olympics
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty eight and it's just like I don't know, man,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know who's running his career. Obviously he has
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: something to do with it too, but I don't know
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: who's given him that advice or like I said, I
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: can't just blame the advice, but it's it's disappointing to
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: say the leaf. So I don't know, Man Klomotov came
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: back to this weekend got like a stoppage victory. What
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: else I think besides the tim zoom trying to think
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: of some other Oh there was so there was also
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: there was also a little controversy about a reth moving
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: like pulling down on an arm of a fighter, and
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: then that fighter who uh he pulled the the arm
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: down from got hit. And I've never been a big
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: fan of them pulling down gloves and arms unless you're
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: doing it both. But I think just breaking it up,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: like getting your arms in between him, it's probably the
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: better thing. And getting your body in there, don't get
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: me wrong. I mean, you know, like if they're big dudes,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: that's a little different. You know, It's it's easy for
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: me to say, hey, dude, just get your body in there, bro.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know, I'm not a big
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: fan of that here because I've seen this before too,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: where a guy knocks a hand down and then it's
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: like all right, they just just tell him the hand
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: doown or make sure the fight stopped. And then I
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: don't know, I just when you do that, it was
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: it was just funny to see it like that where
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: dude gets his hand taken down and just gets hit
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: with a punch. Also on Pro Box, Moran beat Williams.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I think it was was it a split, I think
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: it was a majority. The majority almost positive about that.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: So yeah, but Joela la all Off, it just I
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: don't know, man, I just I can't believe where his
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: career's at right now. Like it's it's it's also like,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: why don't you drop his ass ten top rank? I
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: don't know, like if other people did this, you dropped
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: these mother efforts. I don't know. It's it's just it's frustrating.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I'll put it that way. It's frustrating. As you could
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: probably hear in my voice, it's a little frustrating. Okay,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: So Tim Zoo needed to get a win, and that's
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: what he got. You know, the first round was very slow.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I thought it would be that way. Still pretty slow
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: in the second Zoo was, you know, able to land
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: his jab a little bit more. Both of them were
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: landing to the body in the third round, and you know,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: like there was a couple Joey landed some good shots too,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: but the mid round, about mid round third, some really
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: good combinations from Timsu. His jab was coming out real clean,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: it was landing hard. In the last minute, he really
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: started putting it together. Landed a few right hands as well.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I did like the many men slashed down under song.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: I can't remember what the did. I liked that little
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: combo pack by the way, Tim Zoo. But the fourth round, Spencer,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: to his credit, landed a nice uppercut to the head
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: and then a left to the body, and then Tim
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Zoo like he landed a combination that ended with a
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: left uppercut. He was starting to let his shots go,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: like really go now, and he was getting the better
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: of this exchange that was going on, and you could
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: see pretty dramatically Spencer's eye was swelling up, swelling, bruised,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: kind of combination, lots of combinations for tim Zoo, and
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: it was like the ref was looking in. There was
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: a flurry, flurry, flurry. Spencer did throw a punch back.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Then the ref was kind of looking in again and
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: there was combinations and it's like, dude, do something. He
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: kind of pushed him away. Spencer did to zoo and
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: then more combinations, and at that point it was a
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: t KL and Joey just kind of walked. It looked
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: like honestly, it kind of looked like the end of
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: the round. Kind of looked like the end of the round.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: He's just like, all right, end of the round. I'm
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: going back, you know. So you know, it was a
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: good win. Like I said, Joey's more of a fringe guy.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: It's not some kind of like, oh bro, the number
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: one guy in the division, the number one of the
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: guy saying timsu it has to be decided and so
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: now it appears in July, Keith Thurman and him are
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: gonna fight. Now. It would be nice if it because
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: it sounds like they want to do it in Australia.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: If they're gonna do it in Australia, you know, if
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: the timing lines up fairly well, if you do it
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: at the right time over there as a tennis fan
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: watching the Australian Open, you know, past midnight here, So
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: if they started a little earlier, it lines up, you know.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: But if it's in Australia and they run it it's
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: a little late, let's say, like I don't know, is
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: that gonna be a pay per view because their first
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: fight was lined up as a pay per view, right man.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I it'd be great if they could find a wayte
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: especially since it's an Australia, to keep this up pay
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: per view. But I wonder, I wonder if they will
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: be able to do that. We know it's gonna be
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: pay per view in Australia. A lot of the fights
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: over there are pay per view, but I don't have
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: any numbers or anything. I haven't heard any numbers or
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: anything like that, but I don't know. It'd be nice
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: if they could just have that on Amazon straight up.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: But until I see it, I'm not gonna believe that
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: that's the case just yet. But it's a good fight,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: you know. Keith Thurman looked good. You know. Let's just
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: hope he can get through this next camp and get
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: through it without an injury, you know, knock on some wood.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: But let's hope that's the case because I think that,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: you know, press conference wise and all that it would be.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: It'd be a good one. And you know, Thurman, the
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: way he fights, the style in which he fights, can
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: definitely give Tim Zus some problems, you know, and if
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: he does get hit with some big shots up top,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: because you assume Thurman can do that at least. How
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: will he react to those big shots. Will it put
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: him in a shell, Will it have him being more
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: conservative or responsible, or to a point where it hurts
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: his his his output. I don't know, but I like
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: to fight. I think it's a good fight. It's a
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: it's still a solid name to get on your resume.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I hope you know, the first time they
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: did it, I felt like it was a combination of, yeah,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: this isn't a pay per view fight, but they might
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: be just working out the kinks too because of some
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: of the fights that had coming up. But now here
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: we are. You know, Tim Zu took back to back losses.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: One of them was a knockout. I don't know. I
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe it's just wishful thinking that I'd want
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: it not on pay per view, but if it is
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: on pay per view from a hardcore perspective, I really
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: want him to stack that card obviously, but a good win.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Like I said, this was just a good win for
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: him to get back. Nothing crazy, not overdoing it, but
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: he's right there in the mix and the combination of
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: well older veteran guys like a Thurman and a couple
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: other guys out there, obviously Jermal Charlow and some others,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: and then guys that are right in their prime are
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: about to hit their prime, like one fifty four is
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: just it's ready to go, dude, And there's so many
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: fights that can be made. So let's hope that this
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: one thing really Since what they had that triple header,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: one fifty four pound triple header, I think it was
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, and ever since then, man, that division has
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: just given us such great fights, major upsets, rematches, it's
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: been the whole gamut. So it's really paid off, and
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: hopefully it keeps paying up. Man, just match them up
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: and the fightles will do the rest and this type
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: of thing. But there, yeah, there's a lot of good
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: fighters in there, and we'll see. I mean, you know,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: maybe he'd fight Fondora next, you know, I don't know.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, you'd like to think that Dora would be
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: able to, you know, be able to fight him because
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: he had a he didn't take long in his fight either,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: so he would probably be ready by then. So I
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: would say Thurman or Fandora as the two that I'd
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: like to see him fight next and then we'll take
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: it from there. So we got a really good fight
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: coming up Atlantic City. Gotta love it, right, Gotta love
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: seeing Atlantic City get some big fights and Ennison Stantonius,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: this is a good, good fight. Like I said, Karen,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Karen was able to although the scorecards won't won't like
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: tell that story. Karen was able to give him a
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: lot of tough rounds within the round type stuff, and
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: he'd lands did a fair amount of shots. You know,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: he really did, and when you look at it, you
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: know it was a clean win by Boots. I'm not
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: saying that I didn't have a sixty six or whatever,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: but like one hundred and seventy three punches at thirty,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: he landed at a higher percentage. Didn't land as much,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: but he did land at a higher percentage if you
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: look at overall, Ennis was really busy in that second fight.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: The fight itself was way better to just off the
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: pace of it and everything. The first fight kind of sucked,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: and a lot of that had to do with Karen too.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Some of that had to do with Ennis not able
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: to cut off the ring, but a lot of had
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: to do with Karen. Whereas both of them were more
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: active in this than that rematch. So he out threw
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: them by over two hundred punches right, and then he
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: landed two twenty four to one seventy three, but one
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: seventy three matching the body shots, but one seventy three
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: thirty three clip. That's a high rate to get hit with, right,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: and he was right there with the jab. It was
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: just the power punchers really and the you know, so
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: and Karen also did some good work with the jab
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: to the stomach so and in fact, both like and
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: then if you look at the toughest fight was Biev
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: right Forrestantonius and that was kind of a similar where
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: people were, you know, it was a clear win in
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: my opinion. I know there was a split decision, but
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't see that. And if you look at like,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: you know, the punch stats, two twenty two landed to
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: one right now sixty four to thirty five Biev or
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Biev like that was body shots that was impressive, the
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: jab and the power shots overall, he you know, he
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: landed him and stuff like that, and he was more accurate,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: he was more efficient and all that. But it was
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: a good it was a good fight very good fight,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: so and there's some repeatable things I think on both
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: sides of that. Now, Karen, you know Instantonius does they
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: do fight different obviously, but you know, of course you
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: could say that Aboutev and Butev. Is that what it is?
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: You know, same with he doesn't fight the same with
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: the Nis. But I like this Fike man, and you know,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: it's kind of up to like what Ennis wants to do.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Like if he engaged in the inside stuff like he
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: has a habit of doing, but he limits it within rounds,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: then I think he can win thisight very cleanly. But
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: that's generally not how he fights. He likes to get
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: He likes to tussle in the amount of left hands,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: the left hook, the jab, the left upper cup. But
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: really the jab and the left hook from Stantonis standionis
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: it's pretty damn good. And I do think Boots has
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: the handspeed advantage, and he definitely, you know, on paper,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: has the power to hit him with the big clip
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: and so or to clip him with something. I mean,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: that's the one thing about it. Obviously, if they're going
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: to engage in like a brawl at times and they're
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: really going to go for it, well, whether it's a
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: counter or just a cleaner, shorter, more accurate shot from Boots,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: he could definitely like hurt Stanonius and knock him out
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: or at least put him down. So but then again,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: if you fight for too long like that, it also
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: exposes you. And like I said, it's like his defense
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: is is kind of shaky, Like both of them are
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: great defenders. You know, it's a fairly high, tight guard
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: that's pretty responsible from Stanioni's Boots sometimes will be in
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: the show, sometimes just Roy Jones hands down, relying on
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: the head and upper body movement one time. Sometimes it's
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: like his lead hand that's just sitting there up there
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: pretty high, which exposes you to So it'll be interesting
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: to see if Boots uses more strategy in this fight
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: and not just figuring out per se, but literally uses
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: the length, let's say, because according to box Wreck anyway,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: seventy four to sixty eight inch reach. We know Stanonius
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: is gonna come forward, but he doesn't just aggressively come
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: forward out of nowhere and throw a bunch of punches.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: You know, he does kind of inch by inch move forward,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: but he's not an overly aggressive guy. So lateral movement,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: using his jab, looking for the counter punch, boxing on
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: the outside at the start at least while they both
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: get established and all that, and throughout, maybe you, like
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I said, maybe you do get the better of an exchange,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: and if you do, I'm sure he'd sit there in
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: the pocket more right. But sometimes I think he just
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: got to use his length as well, you know, And
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: this is a good opponent to use it on, because
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: then Stanonius is going to have to try to, you know,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: try to cut off the ring and set up shop
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: and you know, he's not able to plant his feet
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: and turn his hips and you know whatever. Put out
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: the cigarette. But like I think it'd be an advantage,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, the high guard can be attacked,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Standionis is, but the defense is inconsistent,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: you know, especially with the left hand from Ennis. Like
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: the left hand, like I said, the jab and left hook,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure he'd add like an upper cut in
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: there too. But stanny Onis then he's got a good
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: jab and a good left hook, so that'll be interesting
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: to see what he can do there. Like I said,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: it solid jab and whatnot. But he does have a
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: fall a habit of falling in with his punches or
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: staying in front, you know, and talk about Ennis staying
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: in front for too long. Well, same with Stanionis, you know,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: because he can't do that either because Ennis will just
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: pick him apart. So I do think Ennis has the
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: full capability to jab and CounterPunch for a good portion
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: of this fight. And when you look at angles, especially offensively,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: I think that's a key too, and both men use them,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: but I'd say Stanionis when it comes to offensively landing
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: a couple of punches and using an angle to get
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: around the other side and be kind of a moving,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: moving target, you know, can be effective. You know, Boots
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: has his own footwork problems, but he's more than capable
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: of using angles and pivoting as well. That's something that
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I think if he win Staniois stani Ois does that
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: that pivot or that angle pivot type thing, He'll need
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: to match that, you know. And then I just think
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: overall though, like I don't know, I think that he's
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: gonna attack the body Boots, because Boutia definitely did. He
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: was very effective at that, like I mentioned, and you know,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: whether it's like a looping around house shots to get
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: around at times, to target you know, that high guard.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: I think Boots is capable of that. I think overall
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Boots is the more versatile, better hand speed. Not that
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Stanonius can't counter, because he can, but overall, I think
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: that you're gonna see more of that from Ennis, and
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: so I do think Boots will win. That's not going
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: out on the limb or anything like that. But you know,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think i'd put money straight up on like
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Instantonious to win, right, I don't think i'd do that,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: because let's see what that's at right now? Check quick?
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Do it is? Yeah? Plus four sixty plus four twenty
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: five plus three three thirty three, well plus five hundred.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Also Raymond Ford, who I really like to watch. He's
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: returning against Tomas Patillas, so something to look out there for.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it so, I don't think i'd put money
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: on him straight up, like on the money line. If
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I was looking for a plus number, this is what
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: I would do. So I think now I heard that
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: hold on, I just I just heard that he standing
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: on has missed the flight? Was that yesterday though? Or today? Ye? Yesterday? Right?
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: So he just so he's there. It's not like this
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: is in a different country or something like that. So
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: he's there, he's still there, So he just missed the
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: press conference, right, I think that's what it was. So
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at, for instance, like people that don't live
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: in states that where it's legal, like my bookie. Right,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: not the best site, of course, but just looking at it,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: plus four to ten, the over is minus two o
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: sixty under his plus more than forty five. It's ten
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: and a half under. But what I mean by if
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: I was gonna bet, and I'm going to, but if
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet on both fighters, but you're gonna try to,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: you don't have to put a big amount on Stantonius.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. So by decision he's a plus eight
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: ten on my bookie, and by knockout he's a plus nine,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: so eight to one and almost ten to one. So
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: if you put a very little amount on those two,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: I think it's probably a It just makes more sense
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: than a plus four. So four to one, eight to
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: one or ten to one, what you know what I mean?
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: And then you could back it up. Now, if you
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: think Ennis is gonna win my knockout, it's a plus
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: one forty four, right, now okay, But by decision is
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: a minus one twenty one, which I would much rather
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: put money because if you just bet enis overall it's
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: minus six ninety nine, you know, so you have to
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: put a lot of money down just to even get anything.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Whereas once again you could I guess you could cover both.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: You could sit knockout or decision, I guess, but I
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: think Ennis is gonna win by decision, and so that
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: plus one twenty one one is look minus I'm sorry,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: minus one twenty one is looking pretty good because then
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: you could make some money off of that. And then
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: sure it's cutting into some of your wins, but the
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: little amount you'd have to put on on an eight
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: to one and ten to one, you know, I think
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: it's worth it at that point. But I do think
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: it'll be by decision. Boots should be a spirited fight.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely looking forward to it. It's it's gonna be
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: a good, good, good fight. Let's see here. So that's
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: about it as far as the breakdown I'm gonna do here.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: I do want to talk about a couple other things.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Obviously we now know with without a shocker or anything
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: like that, that Dmitri vivol Bivil you know, dropped his belt,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: dropped his belt and said that he's gonna fight the
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: trilogy in October instead of going to purs Bid. Now,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: like I said, this is no surprise, and I have
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: seen a mixed thing on this. So if you just
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: don't want to see those two fight again, like the
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: first two fights were really competitive. Were they great? Great
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: spirited fights? Not necessarily no, but they were very competitive
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: and they were fight at a fairly high level if
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: you ask me, not a brawl, but two you know,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: highly skilled guys. Better Be gets that cave man thing
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: because he I mean, let's be honest, you know, but look,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: skin be deceiving, right, So it is what it is. Now,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: if that's the thing that you just you just you're
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: sick of watching that style, you'd think, I'm not anticipating
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: the third fight at all. Now, Better Be of is aging.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: It's not a fight I want to watch. That's cool.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: That's your own opinion, you know, that's your own opinion,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: but it is still for lineal. So do I think
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Dimitri Bival is ducking Benvitez for taking the better BA fight, No,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: I do not. I think it's more of a biased thing.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: If you think he's ducking them, I think it's just
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: biased towards Benavidez. Now it sucks for Benavidez. Most people
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: didn't think val was gonna win that fight. A lot
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: of people that you know, from what I saw anyway,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: including myself, thought that Baturbiev would better be able to
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: say it right and then we'd get the fight with him,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: and that the absolute war with him and Benavidez. And
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: so I think people are kind of mad that we
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: didn't get that fight. And I get that because that stylistically,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: that's crazy. That's a crazy fight and by the way,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: it might still happen, you never know. But to say
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: he's ducking him, that's where you lose me, because it
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: does suck for David Benavidez. Canelo clearly ducked him, right.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for Canelo. His resume
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: speaks for itself. But clearly he ducked him, clearly, There's
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: just no way around it. But this is not a
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: duck like he lost the first fight, won the second fight.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: It's for the linear like now once whoever wins that fight,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: and I hate to say it back on would but
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: David Menie his little streak of unluckiness as far as
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: getting a big fight, even though he's gotten a lot
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: of solid fights. Though you know, watch the trilogy, is
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: gonna be a draw that would just suck. Like I said, knocking,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: I hope that doesn't happen. But let's see what happens
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: with the winner. They say it's gonna happen in October.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Whoever wins, then I'm going to put pressure on and
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: then I'll say, all right, forget the IBF. Forget the
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: IBF if you're going to face the best fight in
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: the division off a lineal and they've already had two,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: so it's only right, I mean, so better Be it
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: was undefeated, right, and then he beat Bival, then he
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: takes one loss and now it's a duck that you know,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: the volt's not fighting, but better Be deserves that rematch
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: due the trilogy should happen, It's fine, but after the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: trilogy then what And I don't want to if you
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: got rid of the WBC, not to fight Benavitez and
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: to fight the trilogy, cool, but don't go looking to
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: take an IBF fight either, whoever wins. I don't want
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: to hear shit about the IBF. Drop that thing. If
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: that's what it takes. Dropping who cares time to face
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: benefit is now Benavidez. You know, it does sound like
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be back in the summer. My guess would
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: be late summer. But that's just a guess who's he
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: gonna fight. A lot of people think Calliam Smith, you
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: know maybe, and someone sent me the ratings for the WBC,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: and you know the introim there's like a silver. You
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: know how that goes, Dude, there's an intrum, there's a silver,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: there's an international, right, but clearly I don't know. Maybe
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: maybe they'll call the silver and say, hey, now he's
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: in trum. The silver's intrum, and that's you got to
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: take on Willie Hutchinson. I don't know. But the reason
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: why it goes better be of David Morrell, Albert Ramirez,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: voushtik Watsei, Connor Wallace Hutchinson seventh, although he's the silver,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Anthony Yard, who's got a fight coming up, Zach Parker, Whittaker, whatever. Right,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: The reason why KELLEYM. Smith is not there is because
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: he's the intrum WBO. So that's why he's not ranked
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: in the WBC or the WBO as far as the
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: ranking spark or the other ones. Right, So that's what
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: it is. So my question is will because Calliam Smith?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: You know this this the canyon. Most people are like, oh,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Calliam Smith is next for Benevidea's yeah, sign me up.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: I would love that fight. But politics may run run
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: in the way. You know, the people around him may
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: advise him to be like, hey, dude, you're in a
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: good spot. You'll be called the mandatory at some point.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Or hey, if Yard win, Yard wins, let's match you
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: up with him and you can wait and try to
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: go after the trilogy winner. So now, what about a
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: scenario it's a two fight deal or maybe three fight
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: because of a reimagine there. Wonder if they say, okay,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: we're gonna do the trilogy, but if we make mena Vidius,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: Callia and Smith, it has to be in Sadi, but
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: we we guarantee you because you can't really guarantee fights obviously,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: especially here. That's part of the Ali Act. But it's
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Sadi and it's the UK that's not a guaranteed thing
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: over there either, So you know, promises and all that.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I really don't. I don't know.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: But if he could beat Kellium Smith and then get
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: that trilogy and both of them have been Sadi, that
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: is a little rough. But would it be worth it?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: You know? I don't know. I mean I think if
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: they did that fight in Vegas with him and Kelly Smith,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: I think a decent amount of UK fans have come over,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, So I think that could
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: be a big fight in Vegas. But it is what
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: it is. I will say this though, speaking of Sadi.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: If the trilogy happens and the only way they'll give
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: you the fight is going to Sadi, I've it'll hold
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: firm on that that. That's what I would do. Shit,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: even if you lose, You're you're losing in front of
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: a small audience, you know. Really, So I don't know.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, I still think it'd be worth it, though,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: I do have to admit I still think it'd be
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: worth it. Like for sure, I think it'd be well
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: worth it to go over there and just get it in. Now,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: the WBC came out and talked about the numbers, and
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go off with the WBC says about
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: numbers like in general, it could definitely be skewed and
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: you know all that shit, right, So they made it
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: sound like that. So the offer sounds it does sound
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: like they offered them real money to fight, though, I
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: will say that like I thought that was the case,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: but now we have enough people talking about it that
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: I do deem that true. But the thing is, you know,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Maurisio came out and said that his purse for his
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: last fight against better Bee was two point seven million.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Now that's not what's been reported. No, I have heard
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: it was. I've heard it. This is the third different
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: perse I've heard for that. You know, I've heard five, well, fourth,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: I've heard five, seven and a half, and then I've
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: heard ten. So the first time I'm hearing two point
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: seven and it's coming from Mauricio, So I really don't
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: know that. But he did say they turned down eight million,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: and Eddie Hearn that was reported before Mariso said it,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: but Eddie Hearn it made it in an IFL TV video.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: He confirmed, Yeah, we did turned down an eight million,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: But he said, we made a promise we got the rematch,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: we'd better be able. We made a promise if we win,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: we'll give you the trilogy. That's fair. Now. One thing
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: he did say, Eddie Hearn in that ifl TV interview
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: said we don't we turned down the eight mil, Yeah,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: but we don't care if it was twenty mil, we
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: would have turned it down. Now in Saudi. In the
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: UK it's different. But like if you look at how
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Canelo got out of his deal, they weren't willing to
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: give him the same amount of money someone was willing
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: to give him to fight, you know, to do a fight.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: This is right, you know, in the COVID period memory
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: he got off his contract. It was it's two different things. Actually,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: he got off his contract first, you know, because of
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: you know, a dispute with Oscar. But overall, he could
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: also make the case of hey, dude, I'm getting offered
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: this amount of money for this fight, so you gotta
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: let me take the highest bidder. So for him to
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: say I don't care if it was twenty million here,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: that's that that would be kind of bullshit and that
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: would be pretty much illegal because if if Bivil wanted
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: that twenty mil, you know, it's up to your handlers
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: to say, well, that's the biggest money possible. So there
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: is a dispute between all that, of course, but if
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: it was twenty million, even take the fight and say really,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: but that just goes to show you that, you know,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: they mean business with Benavitez and trying to get him
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: an opponent. It sounds like they offered him eight mil.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: That's good ass money, dude. I don't know if they
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: could make a profit of Bivil and Benavitez if they
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: paid him eight mil. I don't know about that, but
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: either way, you know, we'll see how this goes. But
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: I don't I'd have to hear more about that two
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: point seven mil. Let's put that way. So I don't
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: know who David benavite is gonna fight Yard or Calliam Smith.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't doubt if that's the fight they make them
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Smith and Yard. I hope, not hopefully, that money that
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: they would offer to Callium would be good enough to
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: keep him away from that. And because that's a good
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: ass fight, Calliam Smith. Uh, and you know, and benevite
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: isn't they get the winner gets the trilogy winner? That
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: would work for me. He Sean Davis Edwin de los
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: Santo's talks fall off. Here's kind of something interesting because
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: they said, you know, he wouldn't take it for two
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars, so he wanted more right, and Moretti
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: Top Rank said him double that right, but then Edwin
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: de los Santos said, now look at this. I I
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: didn't even know there was four hundred thousand offer. My
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: promoter offered me two hundred and twenty five thousand, So
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: that that gets a little funky. I don't know. I
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: would have to know what he made for Shakur and
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: go from there. I'm not saying you get the same
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: exact money as you get with short That's not what
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I would have to know what that is.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: So June seventh, Northfolk is what Keishon's date for Top Rank.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: Looks like they're gonna have to move on and we'll
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: see what what's next for de los Santo's what fight
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: does he have that's just as good as that or better?
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: You know, because that's how a lot of that stuff goes.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: Here's some interesting news. The WBC officially ordered schakor Stephenson
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: and is the paid of the two sides that have
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: until May sixth to negotiate a deal before it goes
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: to pur spit Coppinger added the Ring Magazine story right,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: he said he's he was told the w WBC is
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: still determining the purse split. Golden Boy Promotions asked the
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: WBC for a more favorable fifty five to forty five split.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: What but hopefully that just because I honestly hopefully it
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: gets it made off of that, because I wasn't sold
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: that they were just going to, you know, give give
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: Zippota the Shukur fight, because styles make fights, as we know,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: and that's just not a good style. Fore so hopefully
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: that that get made. That get gets made. That was
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: the fight that was supposed to happen in the fall,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: then it was supposed to happen next, and blah blah blah.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: Hopefully it happens next, just to just to get some
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: more you know, like clarification at the weight class and
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: some separation. Also Ring Magazine, No surprise here, June fourteenth,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: at the Theater at Madison Square Garden, Richardson Hitchens and
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: George Cambosas I guess said, no surprise, it is what
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: it is. I did see this from brunch Boxing on
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: the on the Twitter shouts out to brunch Boxing. Tappyr
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: Promotion pulls pulls fighters from Saturdays I see US boxing
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: event due to significant financial instability and ethnical concerns regarding
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: event funding. Yeah, guys like Mendoza, Diego Sanchez. So yeah,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: that's interesting, interesting to say the least. On that, let's
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: see her. What are some Oh and then pet so
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: but Checko and and Billy's not gonna happen. They pulled
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: out of it. This is Dani Rafael person source involved.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: Pacheco pulled out of the purse bid because mattrom is
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: planning a summer fight for him against Trevor McCombe. The
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: thing is, if you're gonna get involved in this stuff,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: why let it get to the purse bit and be like,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: you know what, we're not gonna go. I don't know.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: I know it's a form of negotiation, of course, but
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: like I don't know, man, you know, it's kind of
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: like Pacheco. I don't know. I really don't know what's
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: up with that. I you know, Pacheco's young, and a
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: lot of people are saying they don't want to match
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: them with them Billy, but stylistically, I don't know. You
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: know that that I don't know, man. It it kind
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: of favors him there. But yeah, either way, it didn't
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: didn't come to you know, didn't come to form unfortunately,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: so and Billy's gonna search for a new folk. But yeah,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: we we heard a lot of oh we made the
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: call and we didn't hear back, and he didn't hear back. Well,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a purse bit dude, you know. So
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: it kind of sounds like a little shakiness coming out
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: of there. But if you don't, you know, if he's
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: young and he's don't want to match him yet with
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: that cool you know, that's fine, but don't make up stories,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean That That's where I'm not
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: a big fan of it. We'll see, we'll see where
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: that goes. But that was gonna be a good fight.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I was really looking forward to that fight. It is
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: what it is, well Edbard Lang Edgar Burt Langa had
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: a lot to say, you know, about Plant taking the
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: fight and going with the Charlow fight at some point
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: if they both went obviously he said all that ship
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: that Dan's was, well, you know, Caleb Plant was talking.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: Now he's fighting a prospect that's not even a rank
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: that has two losses. Are you a You're a fucking
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: disgrace to boxing. Man. It's fucking sad. And it's like
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: and lily even does he not remember his last opponent? Yeah,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: it's like dog, do you see who you just thought? Uh,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: Caleb Plant did come back? He said. My manager personally
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: reach out to Berlanga, Berlanga's manager and tried to make
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: the fight for later this summer. Eggar turned it down.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: He didn't want to fight now. He also came with, well,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: I get thirty mil, and you're the B side. I
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: only pay you two hundred thousand or something like that.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: You're not getting thirty mil for that fight. Dude, Like, stop, dude,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: stop it. You didn't get thirty mili for the Canelo
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: fight up front anyway, I don't think even on the
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: back end. But either way, it's like, what did he
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: talking about. Oh, here's a surprise, so you may and
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Junior and Ben is now pay per view basically twenty
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: five bucks in the US. Now, I could have sworn
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: I heard in an interview and correct me if I'm wrong,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: But I could have sworn, and I've said it multiple times.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: I thought I saw that it was going to be
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: part of the subscription in the US, so that's a
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: little disappointing, But I don't know, there are some it's
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: a closely matched undergard. I'll say that there's not a
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: bunch of like like it's just a co feature that's
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: like highly anticipated, but they are equally matched a couple
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: of fights there, so it does look like Tayo Fima
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: Lopez comments that he doesn't like the promotion of Turkey,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: doesn't he's not doing it right, But then he deleted
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: it right, so he was. He said, the promotion you
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: guys has been doing on your card has been ship
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: and then you know, not long after, uh, May second's
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: going to be a super stardom knight, a boxing super
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: stardom night, a boxing great job everyone in his excellence.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: That turned around pretty quick. Shakoor had a little little
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: run in too, saying Schakour claims that the money that
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: he was supposed that he was I guess promised and
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: told he would get to fight Zippata is now lower.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: This was, of course said, uh basically, Oscar said all
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: that shit talking and Steven's gonna pull out the pad
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: of fight. This was before they called it. He said,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: is that what they told you? Turkey promised me a number,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: and now he's going back on that number that he
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: promised me, sending his and he said, towel boys, what
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: the fuck dude to run me info instead of straight
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: up telling me a bow down to no one, mister
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: de lohea and now that's negotiate, all right, now, let's negotiate.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: So he's basically saying I was told this and I'm
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: not getting that, so, you know, okay, which that's kind
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: of weird. I guess we'll find out, you know who,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: uh who who? You know what? What side's gonna They'll
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: probably just work a deal before the person that happens
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, he'll probably just up the
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: money back to where it was. You know. I think
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: that's about it. Yeah, I think that's about it. I
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: think that's where we're gonna stop from news boxing, Twitter stuff.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: Oh they're here, dude, here's Abel Sanchez, former trainer of Glovekin.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think Benavitez has earned it. Did you hear
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: what I said? Former Galovekin trainer who made such a
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: big deal of glove can rightfully so deserving a shot
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: at Canela right and then now, and that's the thing
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: is when you train, when you box anything like that.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: Obviously the knowledge you have is much higher than pretty
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: much the rest of us. But you also can have
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: your own personal ego and jealousy and all sorts of
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: shit involved in your opinion, just like us, but even
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: more in some sense because it affects her life, right,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: and for able to say that, it's just a slap
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: in the face, Like, really, dude. So here's from the
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: Boxing Voice. I think this is a ridiculous tweet. I
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: think it's just to get people rised up or whatever,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: but you know, to get people interested engaged. But he said,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on on David Benevite's management situation?
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: Do you think it's time for him to part ways
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: with Samson and seek a new manager who can help
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: secure those big fights he's been craving. They offered Canelo
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Alvarez the most upfront money he's ever been offered at
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: that time of the offer. Okay, he offered a package
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: for Canelo, the PBC, Samson, everybody involved in this, right,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: The PBC offered three separate deals with Benevitez in the deal,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: so three separate offers to fight him? Actually, is it four?
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: It's at least three and like I said, this upfront
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: money was the most he ever got, so that's just bullshit.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: And then they offered Bivill eight mil for the fight. Dude,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's ducking them, but to say that
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: he needs new management obviously, what are you talking about, dude.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: They've been trying to make the goddamn fights. It's just
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: it's stupid, and it's just that's what Twitter's turned into it.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: And that's been a long time Twitter YouTube boxing, all
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: this shit, it's all been like that, not all, but
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: too much of it. Let's see. So it looks like
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: the w B A w b A arranged a little tourney,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: got Wardley, Miller and pool lev and Hunter and they
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: already slapped each other. Someone slapped I think it was
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: was that Miller slapped Wardly at that at that press conference.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: So you know, whatever it is, what it is. Let's
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: see what else we got here do do? This is
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: Adam from in boxing. I like Jelala all off less
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: and less the more I see him. Have to respect
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: his left hand, which is very educated and powerful, but
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: he's very limited with his right hand and off and
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: has passive temperament. Yeah, that's a great point. Gritty says,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: give me Torres over jebble Off in the first fight
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: versus each other in the pros. Honestly that that's like
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: a year or two ago. I'd have been like, nah,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: But honestly, I'm not that I'm not that far off
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: now because he just I don't know, man, he just doesn't.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: It's just weird. Oh, I did forget to mention. I
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: saw this brunch boxing tweet All Lopez Junior survived a
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: first round knockdown and wins controversial decision. That was a
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Miguel Coda Promotions. I just saw the highlights of that.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch the whole fight. I'll be honest with you,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: but maybe I should check that out. Uh, this is
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: boxing twitter, gloves off, not me looking directly at Dimitri
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: Bivel and saying, Oh, I'm just saying, so we're just
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: giving up championship belts. It's like, yeah, but dude, it's
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: for lineal. Here's roled. I think he puts it in
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: the best perspective. I don't have an issue with Beval
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: dumping a strap. If he's going straight to better Beev,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: I'd have an issue if the winner of that fight
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: then doesn't make the fight. I agree with that. That's
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: where I'm That's exactly where I'm at. Bug says, two
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: hundred k. This is talking about this Del Santos two
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: hundred games he saw. Two hundred thousand seems sold for
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: a guy coming off a trash performance, a loss in
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: eighteen months of inactivity, no star parer. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: like I said, I need to know what he made.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: But you know, i'd have to know what he made
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: against the court and then go from there. Like I mentioned,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: Eli sculton A is now with MVP Promotions. By the way, Oh,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: here's a big one. I saw this on Brunchboxing two.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: Combat Sports Law dot Com is the article and there
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: the ABC president says, presently the UFC TKO is requesting
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: an amendment change to the Mohammed Ali Act, which is
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: spelled Mohammad wrong. The Board of Directors is working with
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: them to make sure the ABC is still part of
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: the federal law. Oh, the opponent, bad Jack's opponent, Raziki,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: he got hurt, so he's out. He's out of that fight.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: That's pretty trouble. Let's see where that Ali Act goes.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: Here's an interesting point. In twenty twenty five, the ABC
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: urged the US Attorney General to investigate al Hayman and
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: allege she was violating the ALI Act. Now they're working
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: with Tiko to gut the ALI Act. Let's see what
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: they do the ALI Act. And it is funny how
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: how different that is taken right. Oh yeah, yeah, we'll
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: work it out. We'll work it out anyway. I'm gonna
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: get out of here. Enjoy the fights, hopefully. I assume
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: I'll be back next Tuesday night. Get back to that.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: It's just, you know, how life gets in the way. Anyway,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Enjoy the fights.