Latest / Saberian History Lectures / Roaring 20's Harding to Hoover
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- 0:00So, we were talking about reactions to the abrupt
- 0:04and decisive changes that occurred in American
- 0:07society in the period from 1910 to 1920. Now,
- 0:12I kind of want to get ahead of myself here, is
- 0:17America goes through a whole bunch of changes.
- 0:20You go through commercial changes with the rise
- 0:22of the consumer economy. where you are buying
- 0:29things for them to eventually lose value and
- 0:31be disposed of. By the way, what is the major
- 0:34consumable good that people were making payments
- 0:36on and lost value over time? Automobiles. Automobiles.
- 0:43That was the article I gave you where you want
- 0:45to leave the customer just a little bit unsatisfied
- 0:47so that they will buy the next model. Sound familiar?
- 0:53Actually... The debt cycle of automotive, how
- 0:56many of you drive? How many of you are making
- 1:00a car payment of a type? Many of you, and don't
- 1:04worry, when you're in the big bad world, you
- 1:05will. We even see this peppering our culture
- 1:09so much that, okay, how many of you saw the film
- 1:13Frozen? Do you remember the scene where the sled
- 1:18goes into the ravine? I just paid it off, where
- 1:23Christoph's sled goes into the ravine because
- 1:26they're being chased by wolves. And he said,
- 1:28but I just paid it off with a whimper. You get
- 1:32the idea. That idea... Well, that the idea of
- 1:37credit economy has so peppered our culture that
- 1:40it even made its way into a child's fairy tale.
- 1:43Now, I submit to you, in a post -medieval fantasy
- 1:45world like that, you don't make payments on a
- 1:47sled. Actually, that would be, well, yes. Anyway,
- 1:54so you have a consumer economy. You also have
- 1:56changes to the demography of the United States
- 1:59as immigration resumes. So you have the cultural
- 2:03conflict between immigrants from southern and
- 2:08eastern Europe and what we would call nativist
- 2:11Americans. This would be... your white Anglo
- 2:14-Saxon Protestant people from the hinterland
- 2:16who had been here for multiple generations. And
- 2:20one of the places where that plays out, and then
- 2:23you also have the shift in the intellectual culture,
- 2:26where you have biblical fundamentalists. in conflict
- 2:37with interpretationists and secular humanists.
- 2:41So we'll just say fundamentalists versus the
- 2:44academy, or versus academics, although there
- 2:48are plenty of academics that have sprung up around
- 2:50biblical fundamentalism now. And so each of these
- 2:56becomes sort of a battleground. And so we think
- 3:00of this in terms of prohibition and immigration
- 3:03acts in the demographics as an abrupt and decisive
- 3:06change in immigration law. In the intellectual
- 3:16history, all of a sudden, the schools become
- 3:20a battleground. And even you see the rise of
- 3:29the new Klan as a response to immigration. And,
- 3:33of course, the Klan was anti -Catholic, anti
- 3:35-Jewish, and anti -Darwin. So, here's a photo
- 3:42from the Scopes Monkey Trial. John T. Scopes
- 3:44had the revolutionary audacity to teach... Evolution
- 3:49in a Biology Class in Dayton, Tennessee. Now,
- 3:52why was it against the law for John T. Scopes
- 3:54to teach evolution in biology in the state of
- 3:58Tennessee? Not just Christianity. There was another
- 4:03implied idea that the book doesn't fully flesh
- 4:06out. This was not an issue of free speech. This
- 4:09was an issue of free intellectual thought, except
- 4:12who was John T. Scopes working for? The school,
- 4:20which was being funded by what? The state. Previously,
- 4:25had a state any compunction to interfere in an
- 4:31instructor's purview? But now it's the state's
- 4:34money, and now it's the state that is imposing
- 4:37the obligation upon the children to be educated.
- 4:39Would such a criminal prosecution have occurred
- 4:43even a hundred years earlier? No, because who
- 4:47funded education back then? Nope. No one. You
- 4:53had private tutors or you went to private school
- 4:56or you were being educated through the church
- 4:58apparatus. You were under no obligation in the
- 5:0118th or even into the early 19th century to attend
- 5:03school beyond fourth grade. And so you have the
- 5:08progressive idea of compulsory education running
- 5:11into the fundamentalist idea of teaching the
- 5:15biblical truth. And so John T. Scopes broke the
- 5:18law. He was put on trial. He did, of course,
- 5:22lose his teaching position. It was a test case
- 5:24for the ACLU. The ACLU puts up Clarence Darrow,
- 5:28a New York attorney, and the state of Tennessee
- 5:31got William Jennings Bryan to prosecute the case.
- 5:35Now, of course, William Jennings Bryan had at
- 5:37that time run for president at least twice, was
- 5:40a darling of the Democratic Party, was a darling
- 5:42of the populist movement, was an orator of no
- 5:45ill repute, but... It was branded the trial of
- 5:50the century, broadcast over radio and over newspapers.
- 5:53It was a spectacle. Scopes was found guilty,
- 5:57was made to pay a fine, and the fine was waived.
- 6:03The fine was waived by the judge because the
- 6:06question for the jury was, did Scopes teach evolution?
- 6:12Yes. What was being argued? Was that actually
- 6:19a crime? And so really what the defense was asking
- 6:24for was jury nullification. For those of you
- 6:26who are unfamiliar with the concept, jury nullification
- 6:28is where a jury finds a person not guilty of
- 6:32a crime even though they had broken the law.
- 6:36because the law is somehow considered inappropriate
- 6:39or immoral. That's jury nullification. In this
- 6:42case, the Tennessee jury did not wish to nullify
- 6:45the law, but the judge set aside the consequences.
- 6:48Now, just as if you thought your world wasn't
- 6:51ending already... You had in 1918, you had the
- 6:54world at war, you had the flu pandemic, and then
- 6:57you have the passage of prohibition. Prohibition
- 7:00comes into effect. Now, I don't know about you,
- 7:02but maybe after the war and the flu pandemic,
- 7:04and maybe when the guys found out that the women
- 7:07were voting, maybe some people could have used
- 7:08a good stiff drink, but that wasn't going to
- 7:10happen. No? Too soon? Alright. So, you have,
- 7:19now think about this for a moment. Prohibition
- 7:21was prohibiting the consumption and sale, but
- 7:24primarily the sale, not the consumption, of alcohol.
- 7:30Prohibiting the sale of alcohol, not prohibiting
- 7:34the consumption. What could possibly go wrong?
- 7:38Is it actually against the law to consume? Only
- 7:41to what? to sell under the auspices of the government's
- 7:46power of interstate commerce. Now here's the
- 7:48thing that's kind of fun. Where do people drink?
- 7:52Where else? Everywhere, yes. At home and in saloons.
- 8:00In cars, not so much. I mean, automobiles are
- 8:03not so prolific. But... If you think about it
- 8:09as a law, if you're going to get people to stop
- 8:10drinking, all of a sudden you are interfering
- 8:13with what aspect of their life? Everything. Both
- 8:18private and social. Now I say this in a community
- 8:23that actually has deep German roots. Would it
- 8:26be taboo in a German family for your child to
- 8:29have a beer with dinner? Or wine with dinner?
- 8:33That actually is quite frequent in the old country.
- 8:37So you're not just closing down the bars, you're
- 8:39getting into people's homes. Now, who else drinks
- 8:42alcohol as a matter of religious practice? The
- 8:47Roman Catholic Church. Now, they had to make
- 8:50special dispensation so that the body and blood
- 8:55of Christ, according to their religious tradition,
- 8:57could be maintained. Not that the government
- 9:01was about to have the ATF bust into the chapel
- 9:04and put the bishop in a chokehold, although some
- 9:06of you are visualizing that, and that's one of
- 9:09the virtues of visual language, and some of you
- 9:11think it's funny. That tells me that some of
- 9:13you have an appetite for human cruelty. But anyway.
- 9:18In response, you have the rise of organized crime
- 9:21syndicate that were running booze into the country
- 9:23because it was not illegal to drink in Canada.
- 9:26It was not illegal to drink in Mexico. It was
- 9:29not illegal to drink in other parts of the world.
- 9:31And so you have... And also, how else can you
- 9:35have alcohol just because maybe Anheuser -Busch
- 9:39took a break and some of your other major alcoholic
- 9:41producers took a break because of the prohibition?
- 9:43What else can you do? Sneak it, but also... How
- 9:50many of you know people who brew at home? It's
- 9:55a... Well, there's moonshine and there's a home
- 10:00improvement for beer in this area. It's rather
- 10:04sort of a hipster thing to do now. I know people
- 10:07who were doing it before it was cool. I just
- 10:11realized I just became the hipster meme. All
- 10:13I needed were the glasses. But anyway. But yeah,
- 10:18you have people making their own. Actually, nowadays,
- 10:21moonshine has become a regulated trade in the
- 10:24United States, which... There are now hipster
- 10:26connoisseurs for moonshine. But anyway. So, organized
- 10:31crime is often a response to it. Now, here's
- 10:33a thing that you need to keep in mind. So, if
- 10:37I'm looking at the Wilson administration from
- 10:431916 to 1920, what are the hallmarks of the Wilson
- 10:51regime? What was Wilson? Politically. Wilson
- 10:59was a Democrat. He was a progressive Democrat.
- 11:03Now what's interesting about Wilson's progressivism,
- 11:05he was progressive, he was a Democrat, and he
- 11:10was a Southern Democrat. From Virginia, originally.
- 11:19Taught at Princeton. He was a... Professor of
- 11:24political science, which at the time was a relatively
- 11:32speaking new discipline. What were the aspects
- 11:37of the progressive agenda? Well, you have women's
- 11:39suffrage. What else? You have... Regulation of
- 11:49business, both before the war and after. And
- 11:55what else do you have? The war itself. What did
- 12:05the war require? You have an increase in taxes.
- 12:14And you have the government of the United States
- 12:16getting into industry production, running a propaganda
- 12:20arm, turning itself on the communists. You have
- 12:23a massive expansion of the government apparatus,
- 12:27both in terms of... the domestic apparatus in
- 12:31the form of the War Industries Board, in the
- 12:33form of other rationing programs, and also in
- 12:36the security apparatus as you are funding the
- 12:39Army and Navy of the United States to be a world
- 12:42power. But here is the thing. What did the United
- 12:45States get out of the war? For all the blood,
- 12:50for all the treasure, for all the people who
- 12:52had died, what did they have to show for it?
- 12:55Did they have an additional state? Did they have
- 12:58an additional territory? Did they have tribute
- 13:02coming in from France or from England as a show
- 13:06of admiration or gratitude? What did the United
- 13:10States get out of their intervention into the
- 13:14world? Nothing. Instead, out of the war comes
- 13:20Wilson's 14 points. Now I'm going to recap. The
- 13:2614 points, just for a moment and with just enough
- 13:29snark that you would actually feel the disdain
- 13:32because in many ways you are living in the legacy
- 13:35of that man and your world burns for it. You
- 13:44have the creation of weak states in Europe. Weak
- 13:49states become the kindling for fascism. Wilson
- 13:54didn't know. You have the demilitarization of
- 14:04Germany, which seemed like a good idea at the
- 14:06time. Unfortunately, that made Germany a weak
- 14:08state for the kindling of fascism. You have the
- 14:14dismemberment. of the Ottoman Empire. Let me
- 14:17give you some country names that were divvied
- 14:20up among the imperial powers of France and Britain.
- 14:24Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine, Saudi Arabia.
- 14:35All but one of those is a war zone right now.
- 14:39Because when they drew the maps, they drew the
- 14:41maps for the imperial powers of Europe. They
- 14:43didn't draw the maps according to the ethnic
- 14:45lines of the people. The subject peoples were
- 14:47deliberately left out. But that wasn't why the
- 14:50American people were upset. The American people
- 14:52were dissatisfied because there was one last
- 14:55point in the philosopher king's panoply of brilliant
- 14:59ideas. What was the last point? The League of
- 15:10Nations. So the United States spent blood and
- 15:13treasure to fight a war over there, suffered
- 15:16the taxation, suffered the bureaucracy, suffered
- 15:18the expansion of the government, all to create
- 15:21a one -world government that would tell the American
- 15:24people how they should govern their own country.
- 15:30That's what many would say in the 1920s. Now
- 15:33the thing that's actually funny is, after this
- 15:36adventure with this philosopher king, the Republican
- 15:42argument was fairly simple. Make America normal
- 15:47again. So here's Harding. Harding was a pro -business
- 15:58Republican. I'm going to put that over here.
- 16:09He was an Ohio senator. He was the son of a farmer.
- 16:25And he... Basically, his fundamental argument
- 16:30was America needs a return to normalcy. No nostrums,
- 16:34no great adventures, no great, brilliant philosophical
- 16:38points. It was very much to have some type of
- 16:42return to normalcy after a tumultuous decade
- 16:44that had preceded it. So let's get to... Oh,
- 16:49by the way, what happened to Wilson? Did he run
- 16:52for re -election? No, he had his two terms. Who
- 16:54ran? Cox, a person of very little repute, I mean
- 17:02very little name recognition, and FDR. I wasn't
- 17:06laughing, I'm talking about, but FDR was, I know,
- 17:10and that's more to cut out of the tape. Cox and
- 17:13FDR. So FDR ran for the VP slot, and then Harding
- 17:19ran with Coolidge. Coolidge, in many ways, was
- 17:24unremarkable. Arding prevails. Like I said, people
- 17:31were tired. Okay. Andrew Mellon is tapped to
- 17:38run either Treasury or Commerce. It's off the
- 17:41top of my head right now. So now let's talk about
- 17:45the legacy. Because really, this contrast between
- 17:51progressives and conservatives is laid bare.
- 17:56in the 1920s. So let's talk about this for a
- 18:00moment. So under Wilson, and I put Wilson up
- 18:02there not as he advocated a position, but as
- 18:04the government was left off when he left off.
- 18:07So you have taxes. So both to fund the war and
- 18:11to fund the expansion of the government apparatus,
- 18:13the highest tax break in the United States was
- 18:1573%. I mean, 73 % of your income you gave to
- 18:19the government of the United States. So that's
- 18:22your top bracket. Under Harding, by the end of
- 18:28the Harding -Coolidge administration, I put this
- 18:31as a single period, at the end of Harding -Coolidge,
- 18:33by 1929, the lowest tax rate was down to 24.
- 18:44What does that do? If you're Harding, why? Why
- 18:49do you lower taxes? There is an ethical reason
- 18:52and there is a political reason. And there is
- 18:55a commercial reason. True. Economically. Economically,
- 19:10if the government is not taxing it, that money
- 19:12goes back into circulation, right? If people
- 19:15aren't taxed, what do they presumably do with
- 19:17the money that they do not have to pay in taxes?
- 19:21They either buy consumer goods, or they invest
- 19:24it in stock, or they somehow otherwise put it
- 19:26back into the economy. So actually, the tax cuts
- 19:29in the 1920s are a source of capital that funds
- 19:33the economic boom. The other source of capital
- 19:36is credit. Credit, what am I talking about? Talked
- 19:43about it on Friday. Layaway. You don't have to
- 19:46pay for it all up front. That means you can actually
- 19:48extend your loans and buy more things. So you
- 19:52have the tax cuts, which means you're not paying
- 19:53as much in taxes. You have the credit economy
- 19:55that allows you to put things on layaway. This
- 19:58is part of the reason why you had such robust
- 20:00economic growth in the 1920s. Does that make
- 20:02sense? So it's not just layaway. It's also the
- 20:05tax cuts. Now, what's the moral reason for cutting
- 20:09taxes? What is taxation? If you really think
- 20:16about it, you work, you get paid, and the government
- 20:19takes it. One sociologist once said, taxation
- 20:27is merely pro -social theft. You get the idea.
- 20:35Now, I'm going to keep going real quick. How
- 20:39much does the government take out of our... Have
- 20:44you looked at your last paycheck? I would say
- 20:47they usually take about one -fourth and then
- 20:49you get it back in the form of a tax return.
- 20:54By the way, don't forget to file your tax returns.
- 20:59Alright. Now, another aspect of the Wilsonian
- 21:04progressive agenda was regulating corporations.
- 21:07Now, so you have the creation of a number of
- 21:13government entities for regulating corporations
- 21:17under the Wilson regime. Now, those regulatory
- 21:22agencies are authorized by Congress. As a president,
- 21:26can you dismantle a regulatory agency? No, Congress
- 21:31has to do that if you're going to can a regulatory
- 21:32agency. And as Ronald Reagan once said, a regulatory
- 21:36agency is the closest thing that one will have
- 21:38to eternal life in this world. But what can you
- 21:44do as president? You can appoint pro -business
- 21:51regulators to head up those agencies. Business
- 21:58is the business of the government of these United
- 22:01States. Actually, kind of interesting, Harding
- 22:11begins a desegregation process in the Civil Service.
- 22:14Who had segregated the Civil Service? Wilson,
- 22:19son of the South. Used the domestic law enforcement
- 22:40apparatus to attack the Klan, whereas previously
- 22:42the Klan had been part of Woodrow Wilson's political
- 22:45coalition. And The Birth of a Nation was one
- 22:49of Wilson's favorite movies. Okay, a couple of
- 22:55things in the Harding administration. You actually
- 22:58have the lowest unemployment rate in American
- 23:03history. Unemployment was 2 .4. That's full employment.
- 23:08You go south of 5, you're considered at full
- 23:11employment. Okay. One other thing that you need
- 23:19to keep in mind. What's one thing that Wilson...
- 23:24the Wilson administration had to pay a very large
- 23:26sum of money on. Military spending. You had to
- 23:37fund the troops in the field. Also, there were
- 23:39designs to expand the United States as a naval
- 23:41power. If you are Warren G. Harding and you're
- 23:46trying to cut taxes, you also know that you have
- 23:49to cut spending. And so one of the things that
- 23:52Harding actually does is he changes the foreign
- 23:55policy from an interventionist one to an isolationist
- 23:58one. And his State Department actually engages
- 24:06in arms control. Now remember, when I'm talking
- 24:10arms control in the 1920s, I'm talking about
- 24:12naval tonnage ships, battleships, dreadnoughts,
- 24:16that sort of thing. So you have what's called
- 24:19the Five Power Treaty. between the U .S., the
- 24:24U .K., France, Italy, and Japan. But the primary
- 24:35driver behind that is battleships cost money
- 24:37to build, to deploy, and you have to pay for
- 24:42the crews. By the way, what are some world powers
- 24:46that are not on the list of the five power talks?
- 24:52Why isn't Germany on the list for the Five Power
- 24:54Talk? It was demilitarized under the Treaty of
- 24:57Versailles. Why is Russia on the list of the
- 25:01Five Power Talks? Because of Bolshevik Revolution.
- 25:07Also, was Russia a major naval power after the
- 25:09Russo -Japanese War? No. So it's, we don't want
- 25:13to talk to you because you're communist and you're
- 25:15not a great naval power anymore. Russia won't
- 25:19be a great naval power until the middle of the
- 25:22Cold War, and even then. Okay, so those are the
- 25:28three major points of the Harding agenda. Do
- 25:34we still hear the echo in some of the policies
- 25:37we have now? I mean, in the last presidential
- 25:41election, both of the major candidates thought
- 25:44that the Iraq intervention was a bad idea. Kind
- 25:49of interesting. But, anyway. Okay. Setbacks for
- 25:55the unions. I'm going to go back to... So, one
- 26:00of the things that was part of the Wilson Progressivist
- 26:06Coalition was the unions. Okay? Now, when I'm
- 26:16talking about unions, you actually have two employment
- 26:19situations. You have what's called a closed shop
- 26:21and an open shop. An open shop means you can
- 26:25work there at will. Closed shop means you must
- 26:32be a union member to work. How many of you currently
- 26:44work a wage job? And you have somewhere where
- 26:49you sign the papers that you work for the company
- 26:51at will that you have to provide two weeks' notice.
- 26:53You are not subject to collective bargaining,
- 26:55yes? Did you know that actually in parts of the
- 27:00Northeast, even the grocery store sackers are
- 27:02unionized? Now, unions, in addition to being
- 27:09part of the Democratic coalition, are, what do
- 27:15they do? What do they do? They advocate for the
- 27:21workers. What is their principal means of advocation?
- 27:25The most painful. Strikes. What do strikes do?
- 27:31Stops work, yes? So, if I look at the party labels
- 27:34for a moment, in the Democratic Coalition, I
- 27:36have immigrants, I have unions, And then down
- 27:44south, I have southern agrarians. We'll just
- 27:49call them southern conservatives. And I'm going
- 27:51to put the Klan in parentheses because if you
- 27:54were a southern conservative Democrat by day,
- 27:56you might have been wearing a white hood and
- 27:57riding around at night. In the Republican coalition,
- 28:00you have western farmers. And business interest.
- 28:10If I am a businessman, do I like unions? Because
- 28:16they slow down the work, they demand more money,
- 28:18they're agitators, they may have socialist sympathies.
- 28:20Yes? So if I'm Harding or Coolidge, I like open
- 28:26shop because if you don't have to join a union
- 28:28in order to work, what happens to the union?
- 28:31It falls apart, it loses its power. So that's
- 28:35what I call the tactical reason. behind Republican
- 28:39opposition to unions. There's also a moral reason
- 28:42behind it. What do you pay in order to be in
- 28:49a union? What do you pay? Union dues. What does
- 28:54union dues then become if you think about it?
- 28:58A tax on working. And the Republicans have already
- 29:02demonstrated an antipathy towards taxation. And
- 29:06also, if I continue it as a line of intellectual
- 29:09thought, abolition was about the freedom to work
- 29:15and the freedom to be compensated for the fruits
- 29:19of your labor. If you're paying union dues, that
- 29:21union all of a sudden just became a parasite
- 29:24leeching off of the sustenance of the working
- 29:27man. So it fits their ethos tactically, it fits
- 29:32their ethos politically, morally, and so they
- 29:36pushed for open shop work in the United States.
- 29:39There was a push to make closed shop work a federal
- 29:41thing, and then they pushed against it. isolation
- 29:48in foreign affairs, attempted disarmament. I
- 29:50talked about that already. So here's the thing.
- 29:52A number of Harding's people were kind of on
- 29:56the take. There was a scandal at the VA where
- 29:58the VA secretary was filching and reselling medical
- 30:00supplies. There was a scandal about who was getting
- 30:04a pardon and who wasn't. And then you have the
- 30:05Teapot Dome scandal. Basically, the secretary
- 30:08of the Navy had leased federal oil contracts
- 30:11in Wyoming to a personal friend in exchange for
- 30:15kickbacks. So the Teapot Dome scandal was the
- 30:18first major scandal that actually implicated
- 30:20the White House. There were pressures. It became
- 30:23sort of the epitome of a White House gone wrong.
- 30:29Also kind of interesting, Warren Harding was
- 30:32actually a very charismatic person and he was
- 30:34very good with people, especially women. Man
- 30:38had quite a few extramarital affairs and loved
- 30:40children and was blackmailed on more than one
- 30:42occasion. Now, kind of interesting. Warren Harding,
- 30:47shortly at the tail end of his presidential term,
- 30:50is staying in a hotel in San Francisco where
- 30:52he dies of a heart attack. No foul play. His
- 30:58vice president, Silent Cal Coolidge, succeeds
- 31:01him and actually wins in the election of 1924.
- 31:06Now, the election of 1924... It was kind of a
- 31:11lackluster election. You have the economy popping,
- 31:14and so nobody wanted to change horses in the
- 31:16middle of the game. You get the idea. And actually,
- 31:21I believe it's during this election that FDR
- 31:24posits that the only way the Republicans would
- 31:27actually lose their control on power would be
- 31:29an abrupt and decisive economic depression. Actually,
- 31:37FDR said some very interesting things. Coolidge
- 31:44himself was not implicated in any of the scandals.
- 31:46One of the things that we don't really appreciate
- 31:48in modern times is just how detached the vice
- 31:51president is from the president. Now we have
- 31:54presidents choosing them as running mates and
- 31:56having them at the White House key in policy
- 31:59decision making. At the time, not really. It
- 32:04was just sort of, oh, show up to the Senate when
- 32:06we need you. Oh, there it is. Moving on. So,
- 32:101924 to 1928, you have the Coolidge administration
- 32:16mainly continuing Harding's tradition of cutting
- 32:20taxes and reducing spending. Then you have the
- 32:23next big election, 1928. This one is interesting
- 32:27in two ways. So, Hoover is a progressive Republican.
- 32:36He admired Woodrow Wilson. Hoover was himself
- 32:40an intellectual. He was a mining engineer and
- 32:46an oil tycoon. He spoke to the virtues of American
- 32:54individualism. He did think that there was good
- 32:58to be done in the government to help the people.
- 33:02Now, but if you're Herbert Hoover, who is in
- 33:04your electoral coalition? If you're a Republican,
- 33:10who's in your electoral coalition? Western farmers,
- 33:13who else? Businessmen, which includes progressives.
- 33:26So if you're Hoover, do you upset your electoral
- 33:29coalition? Democrats put up Al Smith. Now, Al
- 33:32Smith deserves a lot more credit than simply
- 33:35losing the 1928 election to Herbert Hoover. Al
- 33:40Smith is a Catholic. He is the first Catholic
- 33:44candidate for president. And in many ways, his
- 33:49nomination breaks the Democratic Party coalition.
- 33:52And so you have... who is representing the interests
- 33:57of northern immigrants as the Democratic nominee.
- 34:05But this breaks the two -fold block of the Democratic
- 34:09Party. Northern immigrants are part of the voting
- 34:12bloc, but the other part of the voting bloc is
- 34:14the southern conservatives. Now, the southern
- 34:17conservatives are... the ones that I've linked
- 34:20to the Klan. If you're part of the Klan, you
- 34:23are anti -Catholic. And so Smith's nomination
- 34:27as the Democratic nominee causes the Southern
- 34:33Democrats to either stay at home or to vote against
- 34:36him. And so in 1928, Hoover wins in a landslide.
- 34:41Now, one of the things that's kind of interesting
- 34:43is later on in 1932, the Democratic Party and
- 34:49the presidency fall to Franklin Delano Roosevelt,
- 34:53and Al Smith walks away from the Democratic Party.
- 35:00becoming dissatisfied with the direction the
- 35:04party had taken in the face of Roosevelt's New
- 35:07Deal. It is Al Smith who Reagan quoted as saying
- 35:12that I have seen the Democratic transform from
- 35:15the party of Jackson and Jefferson to the party
- 35:19of Marx and Lenin. And so Reagan looked to Al
- 35:23Smith as an example of one who had walked away
- 35:26from the Democratic Party. Reagan himself was
- 35:28originally a Democratic. who became a Republican.
- 35:31And actually, sort of a little tidbit from history
- 35:33for those of you who were following the presidential
- 35:35campaign. The last campaign, and it wasn't really
- 35:38a campaign event, but the last major event before
- 35:41Election Day. was the Al Smith dinner in New
- 35:46York, which was sponsored by the Catholic Archdiocese
- 35:48of New York City. That was the last time that
- 35:51the two major presidential candidates, Donald
- 35:53Trump and Hillary Clinton, were in the same space.
- 35:56It was after the debates, and it was kind of
- 35:58a celebrity roast. But what most people didn't
- 36:01tell you, what most media types left out, was
- 36:04Al Smith spoke. out against the socialist tendencies
- 36:10that had come out of the Democratic Party in
- 36:13the New Deal. Questions, problems, concerns,
- 36:15or revelations?