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Sharri | 30 January · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why.
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Speaker 2: On Sky News this is Sharry.
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Speaker 3: Good Evening Tonight, I'll exclusively reveal the two targets of
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Speaker 3: the caravan filled with explosives. These targets will send shock waves.
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Speaker 4: Through the community.
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Speaker 3: So far, police and politicians have refused to tell you
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Speaker 3: the intended targets, but we believe you deserve to know.
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Speaker 4: That's in just a moment.
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Speaker 3: Also tonight, the Prime Minister slammed for going on the
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Speaker 3: Kyle and Jackie Oh Show instead of taking major action
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Speaker 3: on this wave of anti Semitic terror.
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Speaker 5: The Prime Minister was nowhere to be.
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Speaker 3: Seen, and David Ossi will join me to discuss this.
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Speaker 3: As parents awoke to yet more anti Semitic graffiti now
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Speaker 3: on a schoolgate, Jewish leaders are calling for twenty four
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Speaker 3: hour police outside of schools, and Rabbi Levi Wolf will
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Speaker 3: join me in studio at this time of fear and anxiety.
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Speaker 3: Also on the show tonight, we'll bring you the latest
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Speaker 3: from that tragic plane crash in Washington, where first responders
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Speaker 3: are now searching for survivors, and breaking news as we
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Speaker 3: go to air. Three more hostages have been released by
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Speaker 3: her must to the Red Crossing Gaza. A Gumberger was
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Speaker 3: once again paraded on stage. She has just moments ago
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Speaker 3: been reunited in Israel. We'll come back to all of
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Speaker 3: that in a moment, but let's start now with the
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Speaker 3: major breaking news. I can tonight reveal the two targets
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Speaker 3: of the caravan filled with explosives. The addresses written down
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Speaker 3: inside the caravan were of the Great Synagogue in Sydney
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Speaker 3: and the Sydney Jewish Holocaust Museum. To think perpetrators would
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Speaker 3: have potentially targeted a museum commemorating the Holocaust, a time
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Speaker 3: when six million Jews were killed, is truly horrifying. This
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Speaker 3: is a museum to educate the public, to educate future generations,
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Speaker 3: and to honor the memories of those lost, and to
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Speaker 3: make sure that antisemitism never happens again. Now, that second
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Speaker 3: address inside the caravan, my sources tell me, is the
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Speaker 3: Great Synagogue. This is a beautiful temple in the heart
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Speaker 3: of Sydney's CBD, a synagogue I know well. I had
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Speaker 3: my butt mits for there and my parents were married there. Now,
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Speaker 3: these targets, this is information the police haven't released publicly,
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Speaker 3: but we think you have the right to know. The
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Speaker 3: more information we know, the more the Jewish community can
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Speaker 3: protect themselves. David Ossif is on my show tonight and
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Speaker 3: he confirms that no Jewish community or security organizations were
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Speaker 3: told about this terror threat before the Daily Telegraph broke
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Speaker 3: the news yesterday.
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Speaker 5: But the first we had specific information about this incident
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Speaker 5: was when the Daily Telegraph article was published.
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Speaker 3: And the Prime Minister, Anthony Albinizi is now facing questions
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Speaker 3: about what he knew and when, and he's under pressure
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Speaker 3: for his I mean, it's too soft a word to
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Speaker 3: say inadequate, but his inadequate handling of this wave of
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Speaker 3: anti Semitic terror in our country. He joked around on
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Speaker 3: a talkback radio station, an FM radio station instead of
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Speaker 3: holding a major press conference. First thing this morning, he
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Speaker 3: went on Kyle and Jackie O's show, where the first question.
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Speaker 4: Was what does the Prime Minister do on Christmas Day?
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Speaker 3: He could have come out or even come on here
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Speaker 3: on Sky News and answered tough questions about this wave
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Speaker 3: of domestic terror, but instead he chose to go on
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Speaker 3: a lighthearted breakfast radio show.
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Speaker 6: But you don't even wake up on Christmas Day and
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Speaker 6: we'll get ur undies and just have a look what's
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Speaker 6: under the tree. There's none of that for you.
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Speaker 7: Did you fly home straight after and spend it with the.
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Speaker 8: Family or none of that. Look it was Jodie came
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Speaker 8: up with me, So it was, and the Governor General
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Speaker 8: was there. It was one of the best things I
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Speaker 8: have done in my life because I've done heaves well
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Speaker 8: well that that could get both of us in trouble,
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Speaker 8: particularly me, well, yes, yes.
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Speaker 4: Your job would be a jeopardy.
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Speaker 3: Cole to say this is disrespectful is an understatement. Eventually,
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Speaker 3: after some joking and back and forth, and I don't
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Speaker 3: blame Kyle and Jackie, oh, of course not.
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Speaker 4: This is their radio show to their job. I blame
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Speaker 4: the Prime Minister for this.
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Speaker 3: After some back and forth, they eventually got to the
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Speaker 3: thwarted terror attack.
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Speaker 6: But thank god for an eagle eyed residence the Old God.
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Speaker 7: Or whoever that person is, has saved so many lives.
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Speaker 8: And the authorities, of course are continuing their investigation, the
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Speaker 8: Irish super regular briefings of course on security issues. And
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Speaker 8: could I say this to our police and our security
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Speaker 8: and intelligence age that she do do an amazing job
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Speaker 8: and people need to be held to account for what
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Speaker 8: are crimes and put these people in the clink and
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Speaker 8: keep them there, put them in.
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Speaker 4: The clink and keep them there.
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Speaker 3: How did we end up with this Prime Minister? And
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Speaker 3: that was his phrase for the day, put them in
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Speaker 3: the clink? He kept repeating it. The Prime Minister refused
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Speaker 3: to say today when he was told about this terror
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Speaker 3: threat of the caravan with explosives. The Premier Chris Mins
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Speaker 3: had no problem saying that he was briefed on January
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Speaker 3: the twentieth, but Albanezi, when asked, claimed that was an
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Speaker 3: operational question.
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Speaker 9: So I mean, was it a few days after nineteen there?
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Speaker 9: You haven't give us a date.
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Speaker 8: But I don't go into as I understood, I don't
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Speaker 8: go into operational details.
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Speaker 3: When the Prime Minister was briefed by police is not
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Speaker 3: an operational matter. If it was, the Premier wouldn't have
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Speaker 3: been able to answer the same question. Shadow Home Affairs
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Speaker 3: Minister James Patterson said the Prime Minister needs to explain
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Speaker 3: when he was told and what action he took.
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Speaker 4: Here he was speaking with my colleague Chris Kenny.
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Speaker 10: When was the Prime Minister briefed? Was he briefed on
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Speaker 10: the same day as Chris Mins? And if so, what
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Speaker 10: action did he take in response to this? Did he
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Speaker 10: convene a National security Committee of Cabinet. What measures did
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Speaker 10: they put in place to protect the Jewish community and
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Speaker 10: all Australians. What reassurance did they provide the Jewish community
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Speaker 10: based on their knowledge of this incident, or if in
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Speaker 10: fact he was not briefed, then we need to understand why,
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Speaker 10: because if the new South Borols premier knows, that the
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Speaker 10: Prime Minister should surely know.
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Speaker 3: And Peter Darkan came out and said that this anti
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Speaker 3: submitted crisis is because the Prime Minister failed to take
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Speaker 3: early action.
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Speaker 11: This is a deeply concerning matter and it hasn't gone
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Speaker 11: away as an issue for our country. We're still seeing
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Speaker 11: overnight attacks on Jewish homes and when you have Holocaust
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Speaker 11: survivors who have lived in our country since nineteen forty
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Speaker 11: five in peace are now saying that they feel unsafe
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Speaker 11: in our country. It is a national disgrace and the
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Speaker 11: Prime Minister has presided over this deteriorating situation and I
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Speaker 11: want to make sure that we can do everything we can.
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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Treasurer Jim Chalmers has apologized today after clumsy wording
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Speaker 3: on breakfast television when he implied that the Jewish community's
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Speaker 3: fears had sometimes been unfounded.
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Speaker 12: Look This is obviously a terrifying development, and what it
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Speaker 12: shows is that the fears that a lot of Australians
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Speaker 12: and the Jewish community have are not always unfounded. This
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Speaker 12: is a chilling course of events, deeply troubling, unsettling, and
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Speaker 12: what it shows is that the fears in the Jewish
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Speaker 12: community are not always unfounded.
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Speaker 3: The Treasurer told me today that he was sorry for
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Speaker 3: these choice of words, and I don't believe he's our enemy.
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Speaker 3: Unlike alban Easy and Penny Wog and Tony Burke, the
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Speaker 3: Treasurer has never been a pro Palestinian activist. Chalmers said
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Speaker 3: to me that he's had that relay to him how
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Speaker 3: it was interpreted, He said, I apologize. My intention was
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Speaker 3: to share and acknowledge the very real and understandable fears
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Speaker 3: and concerns in the Jewish community in light of recent events.
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Speaker 3: I could have and should have expressed that more clearly,
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Speaker 3: and I'm sorry I didn't. We've never ever heard Pennywang
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Speaker 3: or Albanezi apologize for deliberately offending the community. And Jim
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Speaker 3: Chalmers told me he also phoned as more number of
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Speaker 3: Jewish community leaders and relayed that message directly to them.
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Speaker 3: Now I want to talk about the actual incident itself.
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Speaker 3: And here's what we know so far. Scott Marshall and
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Speaker 3: Tammy Feruja. Now I showed you these two on my
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Speaker 3: show early last week. I was the first journalist to
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Speaker 3: name and show you the image of Scott Marshall there,
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Speaker 3: and I told you how they'd been charged in relation
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Speaker 3: or at least Tammy had been charged in relation to
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Speaker 3: the Willara vandalism where cars were torched and homes were graffiti.
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Speaker 3: This was the second Willara vandalism incident, you may recall.
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Speaker 3: I also showed you how Tammy had posted online looking
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Speaker 3: for a Jerry can. Well, now this same pair are
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Speaker 3: part of the police investigation relating to the caravan with explosives.
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Speaker 3: The Herald reported that Tammy posted online looking for a
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Speaker 3: caravan and here are those hosts.
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Speaker 4: There's two of them.
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Speaker 3: Anyone got a caravan for sale? Need one asapp I've
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Speaker 3: got money. Police Commissioner Karen Webb said police did have
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Speaker 3: in custody the owner of the caravan.
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Speaker 13: The owner registered owner of that caravan is a person
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Speaker 13: that is in custody on unrelated matters. The owner is
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Speaker 13: out of play and in custody.
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Speaker 3: And police are still investigating who's behind all of this.
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Speaker 4: They believe that career criminals have been hired to commit
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Speaker 4: these attacks.
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Speaker 3: They say they are very confident that they'll catch the
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Speaker 3: perpetrators behind it.
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Speaker 13: All the matters, as I said, the graffiti overnight, will
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Speaker 13: be under investigation and taken as seriously as other matters
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Speaker 13: and will continue to hunt those people until we find them.
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Speaker 2: The New South Wales police are doing everything possible to
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Speaker 2: catch these people.
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Speaker 3: And carab Web went on to attack the Daily Telegraph
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Speaker 3: for publishing this information.
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Speaker 4: We wouldn't know about any of.
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Speaker 3: This if it weren't for Mark Murray and his editor
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Speaker 3: Ben English. And I can tell you the police didn't
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Speaker 3: ask the Telegraph not to publish. If they had, Ben
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Speaker 3: English of course would have held off publishing. He's not
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Speaker 3: going to jeopardize a terrorist investigation. But the police didn't ask,
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Speaker 3: so there could be good operational reasons for not going public.
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Speaker 4: And we'll give the police the benefit of the doubt.
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Speaker 3: But given they look, you have to say lied or
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Speaker 3: at least misled us. Yesterday they claimed the Jewish community
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Speaker 3: had been informed, and we now know the Jewish community hadn't. Well,
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Speaker 3: we just have to wait until all the facts are
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Speaker 3: on the table. All right, let's bring in now my
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Speaker 3: Thursday Night Panel four. I'm a Speaker of the House,
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Speaker 3: Bronwin Bishop and National Senator Matt Canavan, Bronwen. This was
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Speaker 3: described as a potential terror attack. Had this exploded, this
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Speaker 3: could have caused a mass casualty event. Don't the public
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Speaker 3: deserve to know about this?
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Speaker 14: Absolutely they do. And now that the police are talking
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Speaker 14: about there being an organization behind these attacks, that they
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Speaker 14: are coordinated, let's go back to stage one of what
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Speaker 14: happened after the massacre of October seven, beheadings, rapes, atrocities
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Speaker 14: on human beings. What we saw was before Israel for
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Speaker 14: any action at all. We saw that dreadful demonstration at
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Speaker 14: the Opera House. Now nothing was done, but it happened
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Speaker 14: all over the world. It didn't happen by accident, or
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Speaker 14: did it. Was there some organization that made it spring
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Speaker 14: up to try and seize the ground and turn themselves
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Speaker 14: into victims. And if that's the case, is there a
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Speaker 14: broader network of people who perhaps are using that caravan
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Speaker 14: as a storage depot to which other people can be
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Speaker 14: told to go and they can collect explosives or they
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Speaker 14: can find lists or anything else they need to carry
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Speaker 14: out an anti Semitic act. Now it can be something
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Speaker 14: that's going to escalate and get worse until we do
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Speaker 14: see indeed deaths. So I found that conference with the
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Speaker 14: police quite confusing. I think that confusing is the word,
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Speaker 14: because on the one hand, the prison was being well
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Speaker 14: with the telegraphs specifically was being blamed for making these
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Speaker 14: facts known when people ought to be scared. You've got
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Speaker 14: the treasure who picks up the vibe that's going around
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Speaker 14: obviously around the federal cabinet, which says, well, we don't
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Speaker 14: really believe that these speedle are really threatened so much,
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Speaker 14: which is what those words meant to me. And then
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Speaker 14: you've got the police saying, well, we think there are
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Speaker 14: a group of people, criminals who are actually doing it.
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Speaker 14: So I think there is so much more to know.
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Speaker 14: I think there needs to be a coming clean a
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Speaker 14: moment because I don't think we're getting the full story
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Speaker 14: at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Matt Canavan, what do you think I've just revealed tonight
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Speaker 3: the two addresses that were in the caravan filled with
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Speaker 3: explosives enough reportedly for a forty meter blast wave, the
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Speaker 3: Great Synagogue and the Sydney Jewish Museum, that's the Holocaust Museum.
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Speaker 4: You know, how has it got to this point?
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Speaker 3: Do you agree that this is due to a lack
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Speaker 3: of action and leadership and tough enforcement from the very start.
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Speaker 7: Well, look, first of all, it's just shocking to see
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Speaker 7: this happen in our country which has always been so
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Speaker 7: harmonious and peaceful, or generally so. And it must be
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Speaker 7: even worse for those in the Jewish community. So the
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Speaker 7: main thoughts are with them, and hopefully they know that.
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Speaker 7: I think the vast majority of Austrains, I know the
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Speaker 7: vast majority of his strains are with them and will do
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Speaker 7: everything we can to protect them. Look, in terms of
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Speaker 7: the reasons for this, look, it can't be shitted home
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Speaker 7: to one person, of course, especially if there are foreigners
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Speaker 7: behind this, foreign actors behind this. It's very concerning. We
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Speaker 7: don't know that for sure, of course, but we must
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Speaker 7: be always mindful here that there may be people off
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Speaker 7: our shores wishing us ill, not just if from the
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Speaker 7: potential risks of a terrorist attack, but also the chilling
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Speaker 7: effects on community harmony and cohesion of the threat of one,
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Speaker 7: of the threat of one and the uncertainty created by it.
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Speaker 7: So we need to be very careful about making sure
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Speaker 7: that we do united as Australians and remember what we
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Speaker 7: value and what brings us together. And look, certainly the
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Speaker 7: Prime Minister's lack of leadership has not helped matters. He
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Speaker 7: has not brought the country together through these difficult times.
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Speaker 7: So I'm not going to sit here and say the
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Speaker 7: Prime ministers directly to blame for these things. Of course
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Speaker 7: he's not doing these things, but not showing the kind
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Speaker 7: of leadership he should as a prime minister has not
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Speaker 7: helped matters and it certainly doesn't help us combat these
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Speaker 7: potentially these allegedly potentially foreign actors willing to divide Australians.
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Speaker 3: Well, I don't think they are foreign actors because New
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Speaker 3: South Wales Police went on radio today and they said
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Speaker 3: there was no evidence that there was foreign actors. That's
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Speaker 3: New South Wales Police on record on the radio saying
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Speaker 3: they didn't know what the Prime Minister was referring to
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Speaker 3: and maybe it was.
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Speaker 7: The AFP has put out a statement though, saying that
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Speaker 7: they suspect that it may be and as I said,
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Speaker 7: there's an uncertainty about it, but it's definitely possible.
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Speaker 3: Well, I've reported that they have no tangible evidence at all.
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Speaker 3: They might get the evidence it might turn out to be,
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Speaker 3: but at this point in time, and I've got very
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Speaker 3: good police sources, there is no tangible evidence for foreign
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Speaker 3: actors at all.
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Speaker 4: Now let's turn to Washington, d C.
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Speaker 3: Where emergency services have pulled multiple bodies from a river
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Speaker 3: following a horrific mid air crash between a passenger plane
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Speaker 3: and a military helicopter. The American Airlines jet was carrying
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Speaker 3: sixty four people went when it went down, and the
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Speaker 3: black Hawk had three military soldiers. This is just horrific, Brunwin,
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Speaker 3: really really tragic news. The first responders are now starring
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Speaker 3: the river looking for survivors.
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Speaker 14: Survivors, I think is a hopeful word. It's the most
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Speaker 14: appalling crash. I do not understand how it took place
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Speaker 14: the Apache, and I know that aircraft quite well. I
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Speaker 14: have flown in it. The Apache is an aircraft with
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Speaker 14: breath sophistication. We're going to buy some here. I do
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Speaker 14: not understand how it could get in the flight path
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Speaker 14: of that passion to plane. I think there's a lot
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Speaker 14: of questions to be asked, and I think the new
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Speaker 14: Secretary of Defense who's just been approved. He's going to
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Speaker 14: have his first major task on his hands to get
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Speaker 14: to the bottom of it.
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Speaker 3: What's your reaction to this, Matt Canavan, Well, it's just tragic.
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Speaker 7: It's just terribly tragic to see families fighting at an
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Speaker 7: airport for their loved ones to land, and to be
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Speaker 7: so close and first of course have the uncertainty of
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Speaker 7: where are they and ultimately obviously going to receive the
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Speaker 7: most crushing news that you can in your life, and
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Speaker 7: your just heart goes out to those people. You don't
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Speaker 7: see this type of accent occurring too often. It's really hard.
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Speaker 7: As Browin says, there does seem to be some other
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Speaker 7: questions that will have to be asked here. The President's
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Speaker 7: already put our statement out questioning what happened and how
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Speaker 7: it was to happen. It'll have to be get gotten to.
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Speaker 4: The bottom of all, right, Matt Canvan.
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Speaker 3: You've put on the table this week whether the government
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Speaker 3: should withdraw from net zero targets, and specifically, Matt, you
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Speaker 3: were one of a group of coalition MPs arguing in
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Speaker 3: a letter that the net zero Climate Pact is risking
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Speaker 3: our economy.
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Speaker 4: What's your argument.
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Speaker 7: Here, Well, look a bunch of our banks. A few
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Speaker 7: years ago, all the major four major banks have signed
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Speaker 7: up to something called the Net Zero Banking Alliance. It's
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Speaker 7: the United Nations initiative that seeks to restrict finance to
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Speaker 7: various activities the United Nations doesn't like, like cold mining
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Speaker 7: one of our biggest exports, gas another massive export, and
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Speaker 7: even cattle farming, which we know, apparently or the United
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Speaker 7: Nations think is terribly evil, that is also to be
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Speaker 7: choked from the finance pipeline. Our banks, our major banks,
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Speaker 7: signed up to this, and in the last two months
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Speaker 7: almost every major bank in the US, JP, Morgan Wells, Fargo,
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Speaker 7: Bank of America, many others, And now in the last
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Speaker 7: couple of weeks, most major Canadian banks have left the
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Speaker 7: Net Zero Banking Alliance, partly in response obviously to Donald Trump.
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Speaker 7: But where left in it? All our banks are still
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Speaker 7: in it. Our farmers, our miners are subject to these
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Speaker 7: restrictive financial conditions. That's putting us at a competitive disadvantage
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Speaker 7: as a country now. And that's why myself and some
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Speaker 7: of our colleagues, my colleagues have said, let's get out
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Speaker 7: of this thing and free the shackles off the Australian economy.
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Speaker 3: The issue is though Brunwan, this would then become a
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Speaker 3: big issue ahead of the election, and you know this
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Speaker 3: has been very controversial in the past in the past,
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Speaker 3: and probably Peter Dutton doesn't want to do anything that
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Speaker 3: would take votes away from him.
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Speaker 14: Well, I think that argument holds good when you're talking
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Speaker 14: about pulling out of Paris. But this alliance is in
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Speaker 14: a way it's an attack on capitalism itself because it's
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Speaker 14: not about a lending institution making a decision as to
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Speaker 14: whether this is a valid investment to make because it's
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Speaker 14: safe and it's going to give a good return for
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Speaker 14: the shareholders. This is about saying we don't like the
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Speaker 14: business you're in and therefore we're not going to lend you.
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Speaker 14: And of course the banks in this country are a
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Speaker 14: protected species. You remember in the Great Financial Crisis they
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Speaker 14: were guaranteed so that they were again and that guaranteed
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Speaker 14: I think still exists, maybe not to the same extent,
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Speaker 14: but I think it's still there. So the banks, the
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Speaker 14: banks can't the banks can't run roughshod. So I think
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Speaker 14: it's a good questions and I think perhaps the pressure
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Speaker 14: from international banks may have an effect on whether or
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Speaker 14: not they continue to remain members or with the whole
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Speaker 14: alliance just falls apart. But Peter Dutton's quite right. He
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Speaker 14: wants to focus on the things that are tearing up
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Speaker 14: our nation. That's cost of living. It's about no energy
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Speaker 14: and no proper energy supply that it's going through the
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Speaker 14: roof and costs, and he's not going to be distracted
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Speaker 14: from that.
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Speaker 4: All right.
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Speaker 3: Matt Canavan, Brahmin Bishop, thank you so much for your time.
21:31
Speaker 4: Really appreciate it. Thank you, thank you.
21:35
Speaker 3: All right, let's return to the major news of the
21:38
Speaker 3: terror threat. This caravan filled with enough explosives to create
21:43
Speaker 3: a forty meter blast wave. I have confirmed today that
21:46
Speaker 3: it's something the Jewish community and security organizations were not
21:50
Speaker 3: told about. I spoke earlier with David Ossip from the
21:54
Speaker 3: Jewish Board of Deputies. He's now calling for twenty four
21:57
Speaker 3: hour security presence at Jewish schools, and he confirms no
22:01
Speaker 3: Jewish organization that he's aware of knew about this prior
22:05
Speaker 3: to the Daily Telegraph. Here he is, David Asi, thank
22:09
Speaker 3: you so much for joining us on what's been such
22:13
Speaker 3: a difficult week yet again for the Jewish community. What
22:17
Speaker 3: do you think needs to be happened now to keep
22:20
Speaker 3: the community safe.
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Speaker 5: SERI thank you so much for having me on the show,
22:25
Speaker 5: and you're right. This has been another extraordinarily challenging week
22:28
Speaker 5: for the community and just when you think you've seen
22:31
Speaker 5: it all, we are surprised. On the downside, this incident
22:36
Speaker 5: in Durrell is understandably giving deep concern to the community.
22:43
Speaker 5: If successful, this would have been the largest terrorist attack
22:46
Speaker 5: in Australia's history. The explosives in the caravan were enough
22:51
Speaker 5: to set off a blast which would have had a
22:53
Speaker 5: radius of forty five meters. So we are talking about
22:56
Speaker 5: a crisis which is escalated to very very serious purports
23:01
Speaker 5: and the community is understandably concerned at the moment. And
23:04
Speaker 5: we have ridden to the New Subwales Police Commissioner this
23:07
Speaker 5: afternoon and we've requested twenty four our police resources outside
23:12
Speaker 5: all Jewish schools and preschools.
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Speaker 3: I mean that seems like something that's so important right
23:18
Speaker 3: now when you think of the threat, when you think
23:20
Speaker 3: of the fact a caravan was found with enough explosives
23:24
Speaker 3: that would have created and this is according to police,
23:27
Speaker 3: a forty meter blast wave. Have you had a response
23:30
Speaker 3: from the Police commissioner yet to your request for twenty
23:33
Speaker 3: four hour security outside Jewish schools and preschools.
23:38
Speaker 5: We are still awaiting a response from the Police Commissioner,
23:41
Speaker 5: but you're entirely right. These are very serious circumstances in
23:45
Speaker 5: which we find ourselves in. It is grotesque and sickening
23:49
Speaker 5: that school children have had to rock up for their
23:53
Speaker 5: first day of school and walk past egregious messages of
23:56
Speaker 5: anti Semitic hate. It is appalling that parents I've had
24:00
Speaker 5: to explain to their children what they're seeing, and that
24:04
Speaker 5: parents have had to explain to their kids what the
24:06
Speaker 5: Jewish community has been experiencing, not just for the past
24:09
Speaker 5: fifteen months, but for the past few weeks, where the
24:11
Speaker 5: situation has escalated to crisis like proportions.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of the most the most abhorrent things
24:18
Speaker 3: that we've seen. A preschool fire bombed, and graffiti outside schools.
24:21
Speaker 4: You know, how can anyone.
24:23
Speaker 3: Be so sick as to target children or the places
24:27
Speaker 3: where children go.
24:29
Speaker 4: It's just absolutely despicable.
24:31
Speaker 3: David Ossip, I want to ask you about when you
24:34
Speaker 3: were told of this latest threat, the caravan with explosives.
24:39
Speaker 3: Were you told about this prior to the Daily Telegraph
24:42
Speaker 3: publishing their story.
24:45
Speaker 5: No, the first we had specific information about this incident
24:49
Speaker 5: was when the Daily Telegraph article was published. The Premier
24:54
Speaker 5: and Deputy Commissioner Hudson then held a press conference. Immediately
24:58
Speaker 5: after that press conference, the was on the phone to me,
25:01
Speaker 5: Tipicy Commissioner Hudson was on the phone to me and
25:04
Speaker 5: they provided a full briefing. But the first time that
25:07
Speaker 5: we had any information about this caravan was when the
25:10
Speaker 5: Daily Telegraph published their article on Wednesdae.
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Speaker 3: And that's the same for any Jewish community or security groups.
25:17
Speaker 3: That's my understanding that no Jewish community or security groups
25:21
Speaker 3: were informed prior to the Daily Telegraph publishing.
25:24
Speaker 4: Is that correct?
25:26
Speaker 5: That's my Understanding's the best of my knowledge. That's correct.
25:29
Speaker 3: Were you disappointed in this because especially security groups might
25:33
Speaker 3: have taken different action had they known about this threat.
25:38
Speaker 5: Look, we are fortunate as a New South Wales Jewish
25:41
Speaker 5: community to maintain a very strong working relationship with the
25:45
Speaker 5: New South Wales government and also with a range of
25:47
Speaker 5: law enforcement agencies. And by virtue of having those relationships,
25:52
Speaker 5: there's a continuous flow of information between our community and
25:56
Speaker 5: between law enforcement and generally whether I and sort of
26:00
Speaker 5: concern they are raised with us, the message that we've
26:03
Speaker 5: received from law enforcement is that there were special circumstances,
26:08
Speaker 5: operational reasons why they were reluctant to share any information
26:12
Speaker 5: about this. And I think these questions are best directed
26:16
Speaker 5: to police about what those operational reasons were. But we
26:19
Speaker 5: take them at face value.
26:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do have to give them the benefit of
26:23
Speaker 3: the doubt, no matter how disappointing it is. As far
26:26
Speaker 3: as you're aware, have the potential targets of this attack
26:30
Speaker 3: been notified at all?
26:33
Speaker 2: Yeah?
26:33
Speaker 5: The potential targets have now been.
26:35
Speaker 3: Notified, okay, and they would presumably be stepping up security
26:39
Speaker 3: arrangements in light of this.
26:42
Speaker 5: Look, there is elevated security at all communal institutions at
26:45
Speaker 5: the moment.
26:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, as they should be now. The Premiere has shown
26:50
Speaker 3: very strong leadership. We see it every day. His words
26:53
Speaker 3: are so strong. He gets it, he cares. But the
26:57
Speaker 3: Prime Minister first thing this morning he went on Kyle
27:01
Speaker 3: and Jackie Oh's show. He was laughing about his Christmas holiday, David,
27:06
Speaker 3: do you think he's taking this seriously enough?
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Speaker 5: Well. As soon as this matter was publicized yesterday afternoon,
27:14
Speaker 5: the Premier was immediately on the front foot and held
27:16
Speaker 5: the press conference with Deputy Commissioner Hudson. The Prime Minister
27:20
Speaker 5: was nowhere to be seen. The first contact we had
27:24
Speaker 5: with the Prime Minister was when someone from his office
27:27
Speaker 5: sent us a text message with his statement. We still
27:30
Speaker 5: haven't heard from the Prime Minister. We haven't heard from
27:33
Speaker 5: the Home Affairs Minister. The number one priority for government
27:37
Speaker 5: is the protection of its citizenry. And frankly, the Prime
27:40
Speaker 5: Minister and his government, they've overseen a crisis of antisemitism
27:45
Speaker 5: and now a crisis of domestic terrorism. And frankly, the
27:48
Speaker 5: Prime Minister needs to stand up and recognize how serious
27:51
Speaker 5: the situation is, what he's allowed to evolve under his watch,
27:56
Speaker 5: and he needs to start taking this matter very seriously
27:59
Speaker 5: and give it the ten that it deserves.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, you couldn't be more right. It didn't start with
28:05
Speaker 3: this wave of domestic terror, as you so accurately put
28:08
Speaker 3: it. It started on the Upper House steps. It started with
28:11
Speaker 3: the hate preachers. No action was taken, and now here
28:14
Speaker 3: we are. David Ossa, thank you so much for your
28:16
Speaker 3: leadership of the Jewish community and for doing your very
28:20
Speaker 3: best to keep everyone safe at this time.
28:23
Speaker 5: Always good to be with you, Cherry, Thank you so much.
28:27
Speaker 8: Well.
28:27
Speaker 3: While the Prime Minister started his day joking around on
28:31
Speaker 3: Kyl and Jackie Oh. Peter Dutton used the strongest language possible.
28:36
Speaker 3: He said that had this caravan of explosives, had that
28:40
Speaker 3: attack gone ahead, Dutton said, this would have been the
28:43
Speaker 3: biggest terror attack in Australia that we'd ever seen.
28:48
Speaker 11: Had this terrorist attack taken place, if the reports are
28:52
Speaker 11: correct around the forty meters blast zone, this would have
28:55
Speaker 11: been the most significant terrorist attack and loss of life
28:58
Speaker 11: in our country's history.
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Speaker 3: Premier Chris Mins also showed very strong leadership and he
29:05
Speaker 3: said this could have been a mass casualty event.
29:09
Speaker 2: Police have to take it seriously as if it was
29:12
Speaker 2: an attempt at a mass casualty event, an event of
29:15
Speaker 2: domestic terrorism in New South Wales.
29:19
Speaker 3: We all sat here last night in shock at the
29:22
Speaker 3: fact that many explosives had been found, and then today
29:27
Speaker 3: we woke up to the news more graffiti, this time
29:31
Speaker 3: outside a Jewish school and Marubra Synagogue. This was the
29:36
Speaker 3: first day back at school for preschoolers and it's horrifying
29:41
Speaker 3: to find that graffiti on the wall right beside the
29:45
Speaker 3: school entrance gate. It's an understatement to say the Jewish
29:49
Speaker 3: community is living with fear anxiety and distress at the moment.
29:54
Speaker 4: I mean, what is wrong with these people that they.
29:57
Speaker 3: Firebombed a pre school and now have he faced a
30:00
Speaker 3: school the wall next to a school with anti Semitic graffiti.
30:06
Speaker 3: Why are they targeting children and places that children go.
30:11
Speaker 3: The Premier spoke about this today and he said parents
30:14
Speaker 3: shouldn't have to face this.
30:17
Speaker 2: It is utterly appalling and shameful that an individual would
30:20
Speaker 2: spray racist, hate filled messages on a school. That tells
30:25
Speaker 2: you everything you need to know about how appalling these
30:28
Speaker 2: bastards are that they would rip apart a school on
30:33
Speaker 2: one of the first days of school with a racist,
30:36
Speaker 2: anti Semitic attack.
30:39
Speaker 3: This all feels extremely intense. That antisemitism feels like it's
30:44
Speaker 3: now beyond the control of authorities, the police. The pole
30:48
Speaker 3: Air was on patrol all through the night last night.
30:52
Speaker 3: If you're in Sydney and if you're a light sleeper,
30:54
Speaker 3: you might have heard it doing surveillance over the suburbs
30:57
Speaker 3: at all hours of the night. Yet some of these
31:00
Speaker 3: attacks are still occurring. The authorities are on high alert
31:05
Speaker 3: and it's probably about time the terror threat level should
31:09
Speaker 3: once again be raised now we desperately need I've been
31:14
Speaker 3: saying this fifteen months. We desperately need strong leadership. We
31:19
Speaker 3: need to know the government cares about all Australians, including
31:23
Speaker 3: the Jewish community, not just the voters they need in
31:27
Speaker 3: marginal seats in Western Sydney. Now I'm going to come
31:32
Speaker 3: back to this topic with Rabbi leave Wolf a bit
31:35
Speaker 3: later in the show, but still to come. The CIA
31:37
Speaker 3: accused of breaking the law by sitting on their COVID
31:40
Speaker 3: origins assessment, and the dangers of Elon Musk's friendship with
31:44
Speaker 3: Donald Trump. Michael Schellenberger would join me after the break.
31:52
Speaker 4: Welcome back.
31:53
Speaker 3: We're breaking news now, nineteen year old hostage again Berger
31:56
Speaker 3: has been handed over from Hamas to the Red Cross.
32:00
Speaker 3: She's back on Israeli soil and she has been reunited
32:04
Speaker 3: with her parents. We are now waiting for the release
32:07
Speaker 3: of twenty nine year old r Bel Yohood, an eighty
32:11
Speaker 3: year old guardy Moses there slated for release today as well.
32:15
Speaker 4: Now Agem's release is after four hundred.
32:18
Speaker 3: And eighty two days in terrorist captivity, and this is
32:22
Speaker 3: of course wonderful news for the families of these hostages. Okay,
32:28
Speaker 3: Rabbi Levi Wolf is coming up on the wave of
32:30
Speaker 3: anti Semitic terror shortly, but first, Elon Musk's bromance with
32:35
Speaker 3: Donald Trump is causing concern inside the MAGA movement. I
32:39
Speaker 3: spoke about this, along with the CIA's assessment that COVID
32:43
Speaker 3: was the result of a likely lablique with Michael Schellenberger.
32:47
Speaker 3: He's a world famous journalist and author and one of
32:50
Speaker 3: the best newsbreakers internationally.
32:52
Speaker 4: Here's our chat.
32:54
Speaker 3: Michael's so good to see you again on the COVID
32:57
Speaker 3: origins issue.
32:58
Speaker 4: You've done brilliant reporting.
32:59
Speaker 3: You famously revealed the names of the three scientists who
33:03
Speaker 3: first fell ill at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in
33:06
Speaker 3: what is believed to be the first cluster of the pandemic. Now,
33:10
Speaker 3: the CIA was obligated under law, a law passed during
33:14
Speaker 3: the Biden administration, to declassify their intelligence. They failed to
33:19
Speaker 3: do so, they broke the law. What's your view on
33:23
Speaker 3: this matter?
33:24
Speaker 1: Well, first of all'll Sherry, congratulations to you because you
33:26
Speaker 1: were ahead of most other, almost every other reporter in
33:30
Speaker 1: the world on this and you haven't gotten credited sufficiently.
33:33
Speaker 1: So first of all, hats off to you. You did
33:35
Speaker 1: an amazing job and you have been proven correct in
33:38
Speaker 1: all of your original reporting. So brava to you. We're
33:41
Speaker 1: late comers to this. I've only been working out for
33:43
Speaker 1: a couple of years, but we're really staying on your
33:45
Speaker 1: shoulders on this issue. But yeah, you know, look, I
33:47
Speaker 1: mean it is now the CIA, FBI, Department of Energy
33:51
Speaker 1: are all in consensus.
33:52
Speaker 5: It's a lablique.
33:54
Speaker 1: Yes, they say low confidence, but that's just simply because
33:57
Speaker 1: so much of the evidence was destroyed. I think most
34:00
Speaker 1: of us are now ninety ninety five percent of the
34:03
Speaker 1: view that it's a lab league. But you're absolutely right.
34:07
Speaker 1: The CIA, with its new director appointed by Trump, has
34:11
Speaker 1: tacitly admitted that the CIA under Biden broke the law
34:16
Speaker 1: because they were, as you said, required to release all
34:19
Speaker 1: the intelligence by June of twenty twenty three. They did
34:22
Speaker 1: not do that. They were out of compliance back then,
34:25
Speaker 1: and then they've been sitting on this report. We don't
34:27
Speaker 1: know for how long, but they said explicitly that they
34:30
Speaker 1: had been sitting on this new analysis of the intelligence
34:34
Speaker 1: for many months. So they're in violation of the law.
34:37
Speaker 1: And you kind of go, well, who's going to be
34:38
Speaker 1: punished for it? Of course nobody, But I do think
34:41
Speaker 1: it has been really important First of all, we do
34:43
Speaker 1: need to restore trust in our intelligence and security agencies.
34:48
Speaker 1: It's worth just reminding all of us that those agencies
34:51
Speaker 1: depend on the public's belief in them and belief that
34:54
Speaker 1: they're not corrupt, because their investigations require people to come
34:57
Speaker 1: forward as witnesses with information and whistleblow. So we do
35:01
Speaker 1: need to restore trust. It is absolutely missing for all
35:04
Speaker 1: of our intelligence and security agency. So this is the
35:06
Speaker 1: first step. There are so many other scandals, Russia Gate, hoaks,
35:10
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden laptop, the JFK files, the UFO files, the
35:14
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein.
35:15
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just so much I think there is.
35:17
Speaker 1: This should really try and I think it is transcending
35:19
Speaker 1: left and right. It's transcending partisanship. It used to be
35:22
Speaker 1: a left wing issue disclosure. Now the conservatives tend to
35:26
Speaker 1: be more in favor of it. But I do think
35:28
Speaker 1: this is a wonderful sign by Trump and as new
35:31
Speaker 1: CIA director. They have made a good first step in
35:35
Speaker 1: the disclosure that's needed to repair public trust.
35:37
Speaker 5: But there's still a.
35:38
Speaker 1: Lot of information that we're waiting for, and our expectations
35:41
Speaker 1: are very high.
35:42
Speaker 3: We've seen this very close friendship between the President and
35:45
Speaker 3: Elon Musk. There's a bit of a backlash within parts
35:48
Speaker 3: of the MAGA movement to Elon Musk.
35:51
Speaker 4: How do you see this playing out?
35:53
Speaker 1: Well, look, it's also fascinating story, right. I mean, I
35:57
Speaker 1: think that in many ways, the power center in the
36:00
Speaker 1: United States just six months ago was our mainstream news media.
36:03
Speaker 1: They forced then President Biden to decide not to run again.
36:07
Speaker 1: I mean that was the media basically told Pelosi and Obama,
36:10
Speaker 1: go get Obama, go get Biden to step down. I
36:12
Speaker 1: think the power center has shifted. It's now if you
36:15
Speaker 1: were to identify the two most powerful men in the
36:17
Speaker 1: United States, it's clearly Donald Trump and Elon Musk arguably
36:20
Speaker 1: the two most powerful men in the world right now.
36:23
Speaker 1: And you know, and obviously Elon has maybe not obviously
36:26
Speaker 1: people should know he's hired a lot of what are
36:28
Speaker 1: called H one B visa immigrants in the United States.
36:32
Speaker 1: Traditionally these are Indian software coders computer coders that come
36:36
Speaker 1: to the United States. There's always a question of whether
36:39
Speaker 1: Elon would allow a full debate on X and you know,
36:43
Speaker 1: there's always like accusation senship. To his credit, there was
36:46
Speaker 1: a robust debate, including people really roasting Elon. You know
36:51
Speaker 1: people I should say maga Trump supporters roasting Elon or
36:55
Speaker 1: his position on H one B. That debate existed, and
36:59
Speaker 1: essentially Elon and David Sachs, who's another close supporter of Trump,
37:04
Speaker 1: particularly an advisor on cryptocurrency, they basically, I don't want
37:09
Speaker 1: to say caved in, but they moved themselves closer to
37:13
Speaker 1: the to the people that wanted restrictions. So I think
37:17
Speaker 1: it's very healthy that you have the owner of this
37:19
Speaker 1: major media platform. You saw him be moved by people,
37:24
Speaker 1: and you know, the spirit of the country right now,
37:26
Speaker 1: the moral center is really that we've got to get
37:28
Speaker 1: back control of our borders. We've got to get migrants
37:32
Speaker 1: that are committing crimes and awful crimes.
37:35
Speaker 5: We've got to get them out of the country.
37:36
Speaker 1: People said, oh, we can't do that.
37:37
Speaker 5: There's some reason for it.
37:38
Speaker 1: Trump is showing that you can do it and that
37:41
Speaker 1: the skies don't fall, and I think that, yeah. I mean, look,
37:44
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be watching the Trump Musk relationship. My view
37:46
Speaker 1: is that it will hold steady because they just have
37:49
Speaker 1: so much more to gain working from each other than
37:51
Speaker 1: they do to be at loggerheads and You'll just have
37:53
Speaker 1: to see a set of compromises over the next several years.
37:56
Speaker 1: You're also seeing a playout right now in AI where
38:00
Speaker 1: Elon doesn't Yeah, Elon doesn't like this character, Sam Altman,
38:06
Speaker 1: who is one of the great AI pioneers in the
38:08
Speaker 1: United States. They have a personal beef. It's probably also
38:11
Speaker 1: business related. But Trump went ahead and moved ahead with
38:13
Speaker 1: a deal with Sam Altman and promoted it. Elon complained
38:17
Speaker 1: about it. So look, I think it's it's all to
38:19
Speaker 1: the benefit, it's all to the health of our country
38:21
Speaker 1: to have that free speech taking place on what remains
38:25
Speaker 1: the most important media platform in the world, which is X.
38:28
Speaker 13: Yeah.
38:28
Speaker 3: I thought you were referring to China's version of Chat GPT,
38:31
Speaker 3: which has caused massive waves in the tech in business
38:35
Speaker 3: world today.
38:35
Speaker 4: But yes, Michael.
38:36
Speaker 1: Shellenberg, I don't know what that is. We don't know
38:39
Speaker 1: what that is. I should say, I don't think we
38:40
Speaker 1: know what that is. I don't believe the hype on it.
38:42
Speaker 1: I mean they said we made it with a couple
38:44
Speaker 1: bucks in a garage, or some people.
38:46
Speaker 5: Say, we just don't know.
38:47
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it is a spot Nick moment and
38:49
Speaker 1: it's going to require the United states to catch up.
38:51
Speaker 1: This is a fast moving situation. It is a dangerous technology.
38:56
Speaker 1: It's a technology with huge amounts of promise. I look
38:58
Speaker 1: to as a nuclear your person, as a historian of nuclear,
39:02
Speaker 1: I sort of think nuclear is a good model. You
39:04
Speaker 1: have the private sector involved, you have the government heavily
39:07
Speaker 1: involved because it is a dangerous technology, and when that
39:09
Speaker 1: we work with our allies.
39:11
Speaker 3: On Michael, thank you so much, as always for your time.
39:15
Speaker 1: It was great to be with you. Thanks for having
39:16
Speaker 1: me on.
39:19
Speaker 3: All Right, after the break, we'll return to the breaking
39:21
Speaker 3: news tonight and the wave of domestic terror. I'll speak
39:24
Speaker 3: with one rabbi from a major synagogue about how to
39:27
Speaker 3: cope with these attacks.
39:29
Speaker 4: He'll be on Live next. Welcome back.
39:34
Speaker 3: Well, we've seen attacks on the Adas Synagogue in Melbourne,
39:38
Speaker 3: the Marubra Synagogue was graffitied along with the Newtown and
39:42
Speaker 3: Sydney South Sydney synagogues recently, and now the shocking news
39:46
Speaker 3: that a caravan packed with explosives had the address of
39:49
Speaker 3: the Great Synagogue inside it. Well, you'd be feeling very
39:54
Speaker 3: vulnerable right now if you worked in a synagogue like
39:57
Speaker 3: my next guest does. Joining me now is Chief Rabbi
40:01
Speaker 3: the Central Synagogue, Rabbi Lavy Wolf, Rabbi.
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for joining us now.
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Speaker 3: As I've just outlined, you know, this is a very
40:09
Speaker 3: difficult time. How are you personally coping at the moment
40:14
Speaker 3: with the synagogues clearly being targeted.
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Speaker 6: I'll answer that question by posing a question to your
40:22
Speaker 6: viewers and ask them how would they feel if they'd
40:28
Speaker 6: be hunted down. Let me put a bit of context
40:32
Speaker 6: into what I'm saying. I am a grandchild of a
40:36
Speaker 6: single holocaus survivor, as is my wife Hani, a grandchild
40:40
Speaker 6: of Holocaust survivors. Australia, as you know, per capita outside
40:44
Speaker 6: of Israel, has more Holocaust survivors than any country in
40:47
Speaker 6: the world. My synagogue, the Central Synagogue, has the largest
40:52
Speaker 6: congregation of Halocaust survivors in this country. And just two
40:56
Speaker 6: days ago we marked the eightieth and of her of
41:00
Speaker 6: the Liberation of Auschwitz and Bergunal and we as a
41:05
Speaker 6: community me we are feeling very vulnerable. We are feeling
41:09
Speaker 6: very targeted, and quite frankly, we are feeling hunted down.
41:14
Speaker 6: And I found it actually quite telling. I don't blame
41:17
Speaker 6: him for using this language, but yesterday, when the Deputy
41:20
Speaker 6: Commissioner spoke about what had happened with the caravan. He
41:23
Speaker 6: used the language and he says, this was not the
41:25
Speaker 6: normal antisemitism. I mean there is now the normal antisemitism,
41:29
Speaker 6: and then there's the abnormals antisemitism. So I mean, is
41:33
Speaker 6: this all normal? There's you know, we have to come
41:35
Speaker 6: to expect the normal antisemitism.
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Speaker 3: Look, it's such a good point, and you know this
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Speaker 3: shouldn't be normalized. And how has it come to be normalized?
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Speaker 3: You know, you always speak in synagogue and you give
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Speaker 3: such comfort to everybody in the community.
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Speaker 4: Jewish or not Jewish.
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Speaker 3: So to hear you say, look, we are being hunted down,
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Speaker 3: this is very confronting.
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Speaker 4: Rabbi.
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Speaker 3: You know many Jews would now be feeling anxious, deciding
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Speaker 3: whether or not to go to synagogue as per usual
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Speaker 3: on Friday night or Saturday.
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Speaker 4: What's your message to.
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Speaker 3: People who are now genuinely and understandably terrified, Sherry, I.
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Speaker 6: Want to tell you, as a Jew, I think that
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Speaker 6: there's one word I would never be using, and that
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Speaker 6: is the word fearful. I don't think the Jewish community
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Speaker 6: should be fearful. I think that we have a tremendous
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Speaker 6: miracle where God has been protecting us and looking after us.
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Speaker 6: And I say that very seriously. I mean, there is
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Speaker 6: no other way to try and explain how we are
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Speaker 6: after thirty three centuries being persecuted, pogroms, expulsions, holocausts, inquisitions,
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Speaker 6: and we're still here. We are still here after so
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Speaker 6: much darkness, so much hate, so much suffering, and somehow
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Speaker 6: we are still here. I think it was the Prime
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Speaker 6: Minister of Israel, the first Prime Minister, David Ben Gurion
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Speaker 6: one said that to be a Jew is to appreciate
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Speaker 6: that believing in miracles is a realist. There's no other
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Speaker 6: way to explain how we're here today. So fear is
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Speaker 6: definitely not something that we have to be concerned about.
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Speaker 6: But I would have one message to those who are
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Speaker 6: attempting to put fear into us, to those who are
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Speaker 6: spreading hate, to those who are so vile with everything
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Speaker 6: that they're doing, I would say that they are the
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Speaker 6: ones who are responsible for actually excuse upon rejuvenating the
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Speaker 6: Jewish community more than anybody has been able to do.
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Speaker 6: They have brought us together. They have created people who
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Speaker 6: are all of a sudden back to their traditions, back
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Speaker 6: to their roots standing taller, being prouder, and they've also
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Speaker 6: managed to have Jews who have always been traditionally on
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Speaker 6: the left leave the left.
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Speaker 3: And now they're watching sky and they're watching you and
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Speaker 3: me right now. Indeed, that's one good thing to come
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Speaker 3: out of it.
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Speaker 4: A side.
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Speaker 3: The Premier, Chris men said today, and he says it
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Speaker 3: all the time that most Australians, the vast majority of Australians,
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Speaker 3: absolutely hate what's going on.
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Speaker 4: Here's what he had to say.
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Speaker 2: There are some terrible people in our community. I'm ashamed
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Speaker 2: to say it, but that's the truth. Bad morals, bad ethics,
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Speaker 2: bad people that will commit these acts. But Australians stand
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Speaker 2: united against this appalling racism. Most Australians from every background
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Speaker 2: regard this kind of hate field activity as the opposite
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Speaker 2: of what it means to live in our country.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Rabbi, that's the feedback that I have as well.
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Speaker 3: What's your message to the wider Australian community.
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Speaker 6: Well, firstly, I want to actually do a shout out
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Speaker 6: to Chrismans. I think he has been a strong leader
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Speaker 6: with Greek conviction. He's hitting it out of the park.
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Speaker 6: He's getting up there at every single press conference and
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Speaker 6: really giving it his best and hopefully he gets a
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Speaker 6: lot of scores on the board arresting these people and
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Speaker 6: finally putting them behind bars. What I would say to
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Speaker 6: the Australian community is exactly what he said. I believe
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Speaker 6: that the average Australian is sick and tired. They've had
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Speaker 6: enough during the summer holidays, while they've been trying to
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Speaker 6: relax with their families, have been bombarded by photos, by
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Speaker 6: images of Nazi graffiti, of preschools being firebombed, and they've
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Speaker 6: had enough. But you know that can't just be enough.
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Speaker 6: I would say to the silent majority, it's time to
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Speaker 6: no longer be silent. We now need to turn the
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Speaker 6: tide and anti Semitism. And it's one thing for leaders
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Speaker 6: in government, and it's one thing for people in authorities
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Speaker 6: like police forces, et cetera. Right now, what we need
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Speaker 6: more than anything is for the average Aussie, for the
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Speaker 6: average Australian citizen to call it out. It is on
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Speaker 6: cool to be anti Semitic, and it's on Australian And
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Speaker 6: unless the average Australian is going to stand out, if
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Speaker 6: it's at a at a at a tea party, or
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Speaker 6: if it's at an evening at home or sitting with
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Speaker 6: friends and having coffee and just you know, remember there
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Speaker 6: was an advert once for those who were littering in
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Speaker 6: the streets and they had this like girl looking at
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Speaker 6: her boyfriend and.
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Speaker 4: Say, big government advertising campaign. That's true.
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Speaker 6: It's cool to be to be on Australian it's uncool
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Speaker 6: to be anti Semitic. And the average and the quiet
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Speaker 6: and the silent majority needs to now no longer be silent.
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Speaker 6: That's where we're holding.
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Speaker 4: Rabbi.
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Speaker 3: I really appreciate your time and as always your incredible
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Speaker 3: leadership of the community, especially at this incredibly difficult time.
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Speaker 6: Thank you Sharry, and to you who have been on
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Speaker 6: the forefront of really bringing this to the wider society.
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Speaker 6: You've been a rock star. And thank you for everything
46:53
Speaker 6: that you've done for fighting anti semitism. Thank you so much,
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Speaker 6: God bless you.
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Speaker 4: Thank you. Now, don't go anywhere.
46:59
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Speaker 17: Metastatic triple negative breast cancer. There is no cure, and
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Speaker 17: at the moment immunotherapy only works on a subset of patients.
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Speaker 17: What this is able to do is open up the
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Speaker 9: What was unique about it was the potential hypothesis that
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Speaker 9: of breast cancer is enormous.
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Speaker 15: It works by reprogramming dormant cancer cells, making them visible
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Speaker 15: to the immune system, while strengthening immune cells to attack
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Speaker 15: the disease.
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Speaker 17: What we've been able to show for the first time
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Speaker 17: is that using this drug pack celisip, we're able to
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Speaker 17: awaken these cancer cells to make them immune visible, and
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Speaker 17: by begging them immune visible, we're able to for the
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Speaker 15: This form of cancer predominantly affects women aged under forty
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Speaker 17: Unfortunately, many of these patients only have a few months
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Speaker 17: to live at the most.
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Speaker 15: The treatment has advanced a clinical trial recruiting twenty four
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Speaker 15: women with metastatic triple negative breast cancer. They'll receive the
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Speaker 17: What we are all about is trying to identify diagnostics
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Speaker 17: and therapeutics to be able to increase the survival of
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Speaker 17: these patients so they can spend more time with their families.
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Speaker 15: A crucial step forward in the fight against one of
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Speaker 15: the deadliest cancers. Lauren Forbes, Sky News.
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Speaker 3: All right, have a safe weekend, stay strong. I'll see
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Speaker 3: you Monday at eight. And here's Paul Murray.