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Inside The MORBID Mind Of Cannibal Jeffrey Dahmer · The conspiracy

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  Speaker 1: Milwaukee, July nineteen ninety one, in a Rundown apartment building
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  Speaker 1: on North twenty fifth Street. Tenets had been complaining for
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  Speaker 1: weeks about the smell. It seeped through the vents, clung
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  Speaker 1: to the wallpaper, and curled under locked doors, and some
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  Speaker 1: said it was spoiled meat, while others thought that it
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  Speaker 1: was just plumbing.
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  Speaker 2: But one man who.
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  Speaker 1: Lived in apartment two thirteen always had an explanation. He
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  Speaker 1: was always quiet, always polite, always alone, And that night
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  Speaker 1: a man ran screaming from that apartment. He was handcuffed,
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  Speaker 1: barefoot and terrified, and he would flag down police officers
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  Speaker 1: and lead them inside, and what they found would shock
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  Speaker 1: the world. Crime conspiracy, cults, serial killers, and murder all
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  Speaker 1: things that I love to consume, and I know you
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  Speaker 1: do too, you sick, twisted, beautiful, intellectually minded quick. And
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  Speaker 1: today we are talking about probably the most infamous serial
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  Speaker 1: killer of all time.
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  Speaker 2: If you say his name, you know who he is.
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  Speaker 1: There's very few people I think that don't know who
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  Speaker 1: he is, even if they're not in to true crime,
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  Speaker 1: and that is Jeffrey Dahmer. And today we are doing
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  Speaker 1: a deep dive into this man's life, trying to figure
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  Speaker 1: out who he is, why he is the way he is,
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  Speaker 1: and what atrocities he committed over his lifetime. So without
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  Speaker 1: further Ado, let's unbuckle our seat belts, go mock five
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  Speaker 1: down the highway, slam on the brakes, and must through
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  Speaker 1: this windshield.
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  Speaker 2: Into this infamous serial killer together. So before the headlines
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  Speaker 2: and before the horrors, there was a quiet boy growing
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  Speaker 2: up in a quiet town, in what seemed like a
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  Speaker 2: quiet home. But beneath the surface, something was festering. And
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  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer was born May twenty one, nineteen sixty,
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  Speaker 2: in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, to Joyce an Net and Lionel Herbert.
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  Speaker 2: And from the outside, the Dahmers looked like any other
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  Speaker 2: middle class American family. Lionel was a college educated chemist
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  Speaker 2: and Joyce was a teletype machine instructor, and they had
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  Speaker 2: two children, Jeffrey and David. But behind closed doors, the
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  Speaker 2: household was far from peaceful, and, as Lionel would later
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  Speaker 2: admit in his book A Father's Story, the home was
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  Speaker 2: marked by constant tension. Joyce herself suffered.
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  Speaker 1: With anxiety and was a hypochondriac, and Lionel was often
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  Speaker 1: absorbed in academic or professional work, so their relationship was
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  Speaker 1: pretty strained due to this, and the emotional distance only
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  Speaker 1: widened after Jeffrey was born, and by the time Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: was four years old, and some accounts say he was
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  Speaker 1: six years old at this point, a traumatic event may
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  Speaker 1: have left a deep imprint because he underwent a double
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  Speaker 1: hernia surgery, and at this time it was a very
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  Speaker 1: painful and invasive procedure that some speculate contributed to his
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  Speaker 1: early feelings of violation and disconnection because it was after
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  Speaker 1: this surgery that his behavior began to change. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's four years old at this point. You don't really
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  Speaker 1: know who you are, so I feel like it may
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  Speaker 1: have been a factor, you know, But I feel like
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  Speaker 1: it's a nature nurture kind of thing. But anyway, once
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  Speaker 1: happy and energetic toddler, Jeffrey became increasingly withdrawn, quiet and
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  Speaker 1: emotionally distant, and people described him as polite but isolated,
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  Speaker 1: often sitting alone and showing little interest in his peers.
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  Speaker 1: Lionel Jeffrey Dahmer's father would say, I saw early on
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  Speaker 1: Thatt Jeffrey was somehow more withdrawn, less connected than other kids,
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  Speaker 1: But I didn't know what it meant.
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  Speaker 2: None of us did.
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  Speaker 1: And the family would move several times during Jeffrey's youth,
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  Speaker 1: which is which is a lot. I mean that's a
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  Speaker 1: lot for a kid, from Milwaukee to Doylestown, Ohio, and
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  Speaker 1: eventually settling in bath Township, which was a wooded suburban community.
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  Speaker 1: And it was there, in an ordinary ranch style house,
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  Speaker 1: that some of Jeffrey's darkest fascinations began to take root. So,
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  Speaker 1: even as a child, a Dahmer distributed disturbing curiosity with death,
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  Speaker 1: and he was to collect roadkill, dissect dead animals, and
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  Speaker 1: dissolve flesh from bones using chemicals, you know, like every
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  Speaker 1: ten year old does.
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  Speaker 2: And by every ten year.
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  Speaker 1: Old, I mean I mean mostly, not most, most not,
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  Speaker 1: because this behavior just went beyond boyish curiosity. And at
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  Speaker 1: one point he even impaled a dog's head on a
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  Speaker 1: stick in the woods red flags. And it may be
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  Speaker 1: important to note that Jeffrey's fascination did not actually lead
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  Speaker 1: him to animals, because he was obsessed with things that
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  Speaker 1: were already dead.
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  Speaker 2: So that's kind of good, I get.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I could see like a parent being like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: don't play with dead things. But at this point he's
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  Speaker 1: not going up to live animals and hurting them. He's
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  Speaker 1: just trying to find dead things. So I mean, as
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  Speaker 1: a parent, I'd be concerned, But would I assume my
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  Speaker 1: son would grow up to be a serial killer at
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  Speaker 1: this point, not not just yet, but that there will
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  Speaker 1: be suns because he did make notes later in interviews
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  Speaker 1: that he actually once intended to kill an Irish setter,
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  Speaker 1: only to then skin it and dissect it, but when
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  Speaker 1: the dog looked into his eyes, he just couldn't do it,
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  Speaker 1: and then he let the dog go, thank God. So
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  Speaker 1: there is a part of him that has that empathy,
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  Speaker 1: I guess. But by high school, Dahmer started to ab alcohol,
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  Speaker 1: and his alcoholism was daily and severe because he was
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  Speaker 1: drinking straight hard liquor during class, hiding bottles in his locker,
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  Speaker 1: and teachers just mostly turned.
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  Speaker 2: A blind eye. Different time.
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  Speaker 1: At the same time, Dahmer was grappling with an intense
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  Speaker 1: inner turmoil because his emerging homosexuality and an obsessive desire
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  Speaker 1: for total control over others was all that consumed him,
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  Speaker 1: and at this point in his life, there were desires
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  Speaker 1: he didn't really understand. Again, different time, a little therapy
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  Speaker 1: and acceptance, who knows where he could have ended up,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but that that is not the case, and
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  Speaker 1: as we know, he would never learn to manage these things.
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  Speaker 1: So he began fantasizing about dominating unconscious men, even dead bodies,
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  Speaker 1: pretty early on. But in real life, if he had
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  Speaker 1: no close relationships at all, he was very introverted, like
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  Speaker 1: he didn't have romantic, sexual, or platonic friends, so he
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  Speaker 1: was very very much alone. And to top off that loneliness,
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  Speaker 1: his parents' marriage, already crumbling, ended in a divorce, and
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  Speaker 1: allegedly his parents fought custody over who would get his
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  Speaker 1: little brother, but they didn't seem to worry too much
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  Speaker 1: about how Jeffrey would be affected, which can't imagine how
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  Speaker 1: that would be on the psyche of a lonely, depressed,
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  Speaker 1: very confused child. And in the summer of nineteen eighty eight,
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey's life would change forever because it was in this summer,
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  Speaker 1: during a weekend where he would be left alone at home,
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  Speaker 1: and it was in that vacuum of no family, no supervision,
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  Speaker 1: and no connections that the damn finally broke. So it
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  Speaker 1: started with a hitchhiker. It was a warm summer afternoon
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  Speaker 1: a house in the woods and a teenager who would
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  Speaker 1: never make it to his concert. So, just three weeks
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  Speaker 1: after graduating high school, eighteen year old Jeffrey Dahmer committed
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  Speaker 1: his first murder as he knew his family would be
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  Speaker 1: gone for a few days and for the first time,
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  Speaker 1: Dahmer was completely alone in the family home in Bath, Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: which is kind of crazy to believe that he was
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  Speaker 1: eighteen and he'd never been home alone, but whatever, I digress.
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  Speaker 1: So on June eighteenth, nineteen seventy eight, Dahmer was driving
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  Speaker 1: down a rural road when he spotted a teenage hitchhiker,
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  Speaker 1: and that hitchhiker was named Stephen Mark Hicks, who was
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  Speaker 1: also eighteen, and he was shirtless and in the summer heat,
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  Speaker 1: and he was thumbing for a ride to a rock
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  Speaker 1: concert at Chippewa Lake Park, and Dahmer, seeing an opportunity,
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  Speaker 1: pulled over.
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  Speaker 3: I had had fantasies about picking up a hitchhiker and
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  Speaker 3: taking him back to the house and having complete control
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  Speaker 3: and dominance over.
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  Speaker 1: So he offered Hicks a ride, but suggested that they
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  Speaker 1: stop at his place to drink some beers before going
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  Speaker 1: to the concert, and Hicks a great and he had
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  Speaker 1: no idea what that invitation would cost him. So Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: would drive Hicks to his house. They would go inside
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  Speaker 1: and the two of them would drink and talk and
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  Speaker 1: listen in music for hours. But eventually Hicks would stand
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  Speaker 1: up and say that it was time to leave, because
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  Speaker 1: he was going to a concert after all. And it
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  Speaker 1: was in that moment that something in Dahmer snapped. He
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  Speaker 1: would say in a later interview, I don't know exactly
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  Speaker 1: why I hit him, except I wanted to stay with
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  Speaker 1: him longer. So while Hicks was still in the room
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  Speaker 1: with him, Dahmer would grab a dumbbell and strike him
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  Speaker 1: in the back of the head, and when Hicks slipped forward,
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  Speaker 1: Dahmer used the dumbell handle to strangle him to death.
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  Speaker 2: And then, with his fantasy.
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  Speaker 1: Finally realized, Dahmer would strip the body and he would
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  Speaker 1: have six with it, and the next day he would
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  Speaker 1: drag Hicks's body to the basement and begin this gruesome
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  Speaker 1: process of dismemberment. First he would cut up the body,
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  Speaker 1: and then he would place the remains in trash bags,
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  Speaker 1: and then he would drive a short distance and bury
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  Speaker 1: some of the remains in a very shallow grave, but
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  Speaker 1: he couldn't leave it there, so later on he returned
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  Speaker 1: and then dug up the body, and then he would
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  Speaker 1: proceed to strip the flesh from the bones and dissolve
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  Speaker 1: the soft tissue in acid, and that after the tissue
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  Speaker 1: was all off the bones, he would use a sledgehammer
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  Speaker 1: to pulverize the bones and crush them up, and then
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  Speaker 1: he would scatter the fragments in the woods behind the house,
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  Speaker 1: and to eliminate all traces, he threw Hicks's necklace and
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  Speaker 1: the dismemberment knife into the Kahoga River, Sorry if I
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  Speaker 1: said that wrong. And incredibly no one suspected him, and
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  Speaker 1: Hicks would be listed as a missing person and after that,
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  Speaker 1: Dahmer's family wouldn't notice anything and he would go off
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  Speaker 1: to college shortly after. But this would be his first
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  Speaker 1: and last kill for nine years, very long cool down
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  Speaker 1: period until he killed again. But given the meticulous detail
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  Speaker 1: of his first kill and how he got rid of it,
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  Speaker 1: it was clearly on his mind for a fairy, fairy,
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  Speaker 1: fairy long time like. The meticulous nature of how he
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  Speaker 1: got rid of Hicks's body is disturbing to say the least,
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  Speaker 1: So after killing Stephen Hicks. In June nineteen seventy eight,
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  Speaker 1: eighteen year old Dahmer was a drift. Having narrowly avoided
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  Speaker 1: detection for that first murder, he experienced a lull in
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  Speaker 1: his violent behavior, as we know, but his personal life
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  Speaker 1: at the same time was completely unraveling, and in the
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  Speaker 1: fall of nineteen seventy eight, Dahmer briefly attended Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: University at his father's urging, but he would drop out
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  Speaker 1: after one semester due to failing grades and rampant alcohol.
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  Speaker 1: Don't use alcohol, kids, So with few prospects, he was
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  Speaker 1: persuaded by his father to enlist in the US Army
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  Speaker 1: in January of nineteen seventy nine. But Dahmer's military service,
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  Speaker 1: not unlike his college time, was short lived and revealing.
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  Speaker 1: He would train as a medic and was stationed in Bombholder,
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  Speaker 1: West Germany. Bombholder am I saying that right, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: and initially Dahmer was reported to be in average or
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  Speaker 1: slightly above average soldier nice. However, his chronic drinking problem
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  Speaker 1: persisted and worsened in the army's barracks environment. I imagine
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  Speaker 1: a lot of guys were drinking back then. To just
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  Speaker 1: get them through, and by early nineteen eighty one, his
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  Speaker 1: performance had deteriorated due to intoxication on duty, and military
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  Speaker 1: superiors decided his alcoholism made him unfit for service, so
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  Speaker 1: he would be honorably discharged. How are you honorably discharged
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  Speaker 1: from being an alcoholic?
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  Speaker 2: But okay?
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  Speaker 1: In March of nineteen eighty one, after about two years
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  Speaker 1: in uniform, and while Dahmer did not commit any known
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  Speaker 1: murders at this time, disturbing allegations later emerged that foreshadowed
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  Speaker 1: his future crimes because two fellow soldiers, Billy Joe Capshaw
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  Speaker 1: and Preston Davis the sunlike movie star names, reported that
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  Speaker 1: Dahmer said them during the service in Germany, and these incidences,
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  Speaker 1: if true, indicate that Dahmer was already acting on violent
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  Speaker 1: sexual urges, albeit short of murder, inside a constrained environment.
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  Speaker 1: And as we moved through his life and through this case,
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  Speaker 1: we will find that this is a pattern, and he
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  Speaker 1: would later admit.
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  Speaker 3: Just wasn't an opportunity to fully express what I wanted
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  Speaker 3: to do. There was just now the physical opportunity to.
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  Speaker 1: Do it, then, implying that his homicidal urges never went away,
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  Speaker 1: and after his discharge, Dahmer spent some time drifting aimlessly,
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  Speaker 1: and instead of returning home to Ohio immediately, he went
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  Speaker 1: to Miami, Florida in nineteen eighty one and he would
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  Speaker 1: take a job at a sandwich shop and attempted to
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  Speaker 1: live independently, but his alcoholism.
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  Speaker 2: Again don't abuse alcohol kids.
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  Speaker 1: And inability to hold a job just led him to
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  Speaker 1: sleeping on the beach for a time, basically being homeless,
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  Speaker 1: and he eventually obviously ran out of money, so Dahmer
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  Speaker 1: would phone his father up for help and return to
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  Speaker 1: Ohio and at this point Lionel Dahmer, Jeffrey Dahmer's father
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  Speaker 1: had remarried at this point to Sherry Dahmer, and they
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  Speaker 1: really tried to straighten Jeffrey out because he had failed
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  Speaker 1: so many times. But Jeffrey would be arrested for drunk
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  Speaker 1: and disorderly conduct shortly after and he would be fined
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  Speaker 1: with sixty dollars and given a ten day sentence in jail.
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  Speaker 1: But by late nineteen eighty one, it was decided that
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey might do better with a change of scenery and
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  Speaker 1: more supervision. Thus, in late nineteen eighty one, Dahmer was
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  Speaker 1: sent to live with his paternal grandmother, Catherine Dahmer, and
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  Speaker 1: this was in West Alice, Wisconsin, which was the suburb
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  Speaker 1: of Milwaukee, and his grandmother was one of the few
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  Speaker 1: family members he felt close to, and initially this move
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  Speaker 1: actually provided some stability for Jeffrey and for a while
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  Speaker 1: Dahmer helped with chores and attended church with his devout grandmother,
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  Speaker 1: and he even found employment and in nineteen eighty five
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  Speaker 1: he began working at the Milwaukee Ambrosia Chocolate factory as
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  Speaker 1: a mixer, and it was a job that he would
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  Speaker 1: hold for several years. And his family just hoped that
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  Speaker 1: living in a structured religious home would kind of curb
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  Speaker 1: his drinking and troubling proclivities, but unfortunately, Dahmer's inner demons
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  Speaker 1: would follow him to Milwaukee and he would continue to
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  Speaker 1: drink heavily, and he began to go out into the
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  Speaker 1: city to the gay bars and bath houses. And it
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  Speaker 1: was during this period that Dahmer honed a practice of
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  Speaker 1: drugging men for gratification without any resistance, because Jeffrey Dahmer
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  Speaker 1: didn't like when his partners moved, which is just foreshadowing
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  Speaker 1: beyond belief, and he was actually banned from at least
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  Speaker 1: one bathhouse in multiple instances where he laced other patron's
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  Speaker 1: drinks with sedatives, leaving them completely unconscious, and obviously he
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  Speaker 1: got caught for it, but he would effectively use their
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  Speaker 1: bodies while they were incapacitated, and he called this passive sex.
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  Speaker 1: But this predatory behavior just escalated his sense of control
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  Speaker 1: over partners, so he began the process of not seeing
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  Speaker 1: other people as people but just things for him to exploit,
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  Speaker 1: and in the summer of nineteen eighty six, he was
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  Speaker 1: arrested for lewd behavior after exposing himself and manivating in
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  Speaker 1: front of two boys, and Dahmer would receive a one
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  Speaker 1: year suspended sentence and was required to undergo counseling for
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  Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty six offense. And incidents like this just
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  Speaker 1: kind of show that Dahmer was just testing the waters,
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  Speaker 1: testing boundaries and acting out in sutually risky ways long
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  Speaker 1: before he resumed murder. And a particularly telling incident occurred
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty seven, and this was before his second murder,
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  Speaker 1: so Dahmer would tell his probation officer an alarming fantasy
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  Speaker 1: that he was having, and his fantasy was about a
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  Speaker 1: male corpse. In fact, Dahmer later admitted around nineteen eighty six,
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  Speaker 1: he came very close to acting on this idea to
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  Speaker 1: steal a freshly buried body from a cemetery, and he
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  Speaker 1: went so far as to find an obituary of an
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  Speaker 1: eighteen year old male, and he would even attend to
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  Speaker 1: the funeral to see the body, and then after that
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  Speaker 1: he would attempt to dig up the grave days later,
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  Speaker 1: just lit nest. But he would abandon this plan because
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  Speaker 1: the ground was too hard and there was a dog
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  Speaker 1: in the graveyard.
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  Speaker 2: That chased him off.
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  Speaker 1: So not because he had, you know, reserved feelings, just
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  Speaker 1: because it was a little cold outside basically, and there
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  Speaker 1: was a dog. So his necrophilic desires were reaching a
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  Speaker 1: breaking point because at this point, as we know, he
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  Speaker 1: was willing to break graves to satisfy them, but he
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  Speaker 1: still hadn't killed yet yet, because the threshold between fantasy
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  Speaker 1: and reality was thinning, and by thinning, I mean he
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  Speaker 1: was ready to murder again. And he would do that
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  Speaker 1: in November of nineteen eighty seven, which is almost a
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  Speaker 1: decade after the first and the victim would be twenty
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  Speaker 1: four year old Stephen Tuomi whom Dahmer encountered at a
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  Speaker 1: gay bar in Milwaukee, and Dahmer, now living in Wisconsin,
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  Speaker 1: persuaded Stephen to join him for drinks at an upscale
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  Speaker 1: Ambassador hotel because Dahmer had rented a room for the night,
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  Speaker 1: and according to Dahmer's later statements, he did not initially
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  Speaker 1: plan to kill Stephen. His intent was to drug the
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  Speaker 1: man into unconsciousness and lie beside him, to indulge in
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  Speaker 1: his control fantasy without actually taking his life. Just way better,
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  Speaker 1: way better situation, it's not so. Steven would agree, and
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  Speaker 1: they would go back to his hotel room, and they
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  Speaker 1: would drink heavily in his hotel room, and Dahmer claims
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  Speaker 1: that he blacked out in an alcoholic haze shortly after
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  Speaker 1: just bullshit, and when he awoke the next morning, he
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  Speaker 1: was horrified to find that Stephen was laying dead beside
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  Speaker 1: him in bed, because in his intoxicated stupor, Dahmer had
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  Speaker 1: savagely beaten Stephen to death. But he later insisted that
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  Speaker 1: he had no memory of committing this murder. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's true, but it doesn't matter regardless, because he
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  Speaker 1: was going to drug him and take advantage of his
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  Speaker 1: plan was to do awful illegal things to him anyway,
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  Speaker 1: So the whole oh, I don't remember is just like
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  Speaker 1: thrown into the wind. But notably, Stephen is actually the
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  Speaker 1: only victim in Milwaukee for whom Dahmer was never charged
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  Speaker 1: for because without a body or a crime scene, authorities
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  Speaker 1: initially had no evidence that the murder even occurred. So
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  Speaker 1: seeing Stephen beside him in bed dead, Dahmer panicked, and
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  Speaker 1: he knew that he had to dispose of the body discreetly,
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  Speaker 1: so he would go out and purchase a very large suitcase,
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  Speaker 1: and using this, he would cram Stephen's lifeless body inside
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: and check out of the hotel, and then the elevator
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: and the lobby. Nobody realized the heavy suitcase held a corpse,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: and nobody realized that he didn't have luggage when he
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: checked in. But I guess you wouldn't assume, you know,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: people walking around with a little luggage there's a body
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: in there.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I guess, but I don't know.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: It's just heartbreaking, you know, for Steven's family, it's terrible.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: And in fact, Dahmer would actually later recount that an
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: unsuspecting taxi driver even helped him load the luggage, and
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: when the driver remarked about a foul odor coming from
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: the bag, Dahmer just kept silent, and he would transport
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: the body to his grandmother's house, and there in the basement,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: he proceeded to dismember Steven's body, just like he had
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: done with Hicks. But Dahmer would wait about a week
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: before carrying out this dismemberment, letting the corpse kind of
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: decompose slightly, and he then would cut the body into
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: pieces and put the parts into garbage bags for disposal
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: with the weekly trash pickup, which is horrifying to think about.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I wonder if garbage people think about that, like if
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: there's any sort of body in any of the trash bags,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: like there's a certain smell coming out. Oh my godness,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I can't, I can't, my brain can't go there. Anyway,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I digress. But this time Dahmer did something new with
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: his victim, Stephen. He would keep a part of Stephen
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: as a souvenir. So Dahmer severed Stephen's head and for
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: a time just fascinated of the idea of preserving a
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: piece of the man he'd killed. She's like, oh, I
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: didn't mean to do it, but meanwhile he has Stephen's
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: head in a freezer, like fucking monster. So he would
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: keep Stephen's head wrapped in a blanket for about two
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: weeks in the freezer, and then he would attempt to
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: permanently preserve it by boiling the head in a chemical bath.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: So the boiling process stripped the flesh but ultimately rendered
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: the skull to brittle, So when the skull just crumbled
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: in Dahmer's hands, he would pulverize the rest of the
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: pieces and get rid of them. So in the ends,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: no remains of Stephen were ever found, and his murder
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: remained a missing person's case until Dahmer's confession. I can't
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: even imagine how the family felt during this time. But
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Dahmer's ability to eliminate all evidence of the crime ensured
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: that at a time police did not even classify Stephen
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: as a homicide. So this was his second murder and
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: it was a near perfect crime, if you can call
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: it that, and it just emboldened a Dahmer to continue.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Early nineteen eighty eight, Dahmer would strike again, and his
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: third victim would be James Jamie dox Tater. And Jamie
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: was a fourteen year old runaway from home and was
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: just surviving on the streets of Milwaukee. So Dahmer met
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: the young teen at a bus stop near the city's
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: gay night life district around January sixteenth and nineteen eighty eight,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: and exploiting the boy's desperation, Dahmer promised James easy money,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: and he offered him fifty dollars in exchange for the
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: boy coming home with him to pose for nude photos.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: So Jamie would agree and he would accompany Dahmer to
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: the West Alice House where he lived with his grandmother,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: and once they were alone in the basement, Dahmer drugged
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the team by spiking his drink with sleeping pills, and
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: after Jamie fell unconscious, Dahmer would essay him. Then he
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: would repeat his now established method and Dahmer would strangle
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Jamie to death, and after that he would leave Jamie's
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: body in the basement for about a week, and it
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: was after this week that Dahmer would proceed to get
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: rid of the body how he got rid of the others,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and this would ensure that no physical evidence of the
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: boy would ever be found. And like Stephen Jamie remained
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a missing person until Dahmer's arrest, when the killer provided
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: details of the murder. So at this point, Jeffrey Dahmer
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: was refinding a very deadly routine approach to stranger, lure
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: him with the promise of money or sex, drug him
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: into unconsciousness, then strangle him, and then dispose of them,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: and he would learn how to carry out murder and
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: disposal with chilling efficiency. So Dahmer's fourth victim was Richard Guerrero,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: and he was a twenty five year old man from Milwaukee,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: and in March twenty fourth, nineteen eighty eight, Guerrero met
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Dahmer outside a gay bar in the city south Side.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: A Dahmer would approach him in the early morning hours
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: and offered fifty dollars for Guerrero to accompany him home
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: for the night, and Guerrero unfortunately accepted, so Dahmer would
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: bring him back to his grandmother's residence and follow his
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: now standard script. He would spike his drink with sleeping
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: pills and wait till he was unconscious, and then when
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: he was unconscious, he would be strangled to death and essayed.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: So this was now just hismo.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: His pattern and he often even went on to commit necrophilia,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: deriving a perverse thrill from violating his victim's bodies after
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: death and then after Dahmer set out to dismember Guerrero
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: within roughly twenty four hours after the murder, and like
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: his other victims, he attempted to preserve the skull and
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: then would later pulverize it in get rid of it,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: and Guerrero's family was just desperate for answers at this point,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: but the search for him, as we know, was just
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: in vain, and he was only ever identified after Dahmer's
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one confession, when Dahmer was able to point
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: out Guerrero's photograph and acknowledge his fate. However, by this time,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: hiding the evidence was proving to be challenging for Dahmer
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: because dismembering bodies and storing parts at his grandmother's house
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: was causing foul odors, as you could imagine. In fact,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Dahmer's grandmother, Catherine Dahmer, had begun complaining about horrible smells
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: emitting from the basement and garage, and she also grew
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: alarmed by her grandson's habit of bringing young men home
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: late at night, and Dahmer managed to explain the smells
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: away by saying, oh, it's rotting meat or it's sue
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: it back ups. But he was aware that his activities
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: were raising suspicions at this point, but still he had
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: remained undetected because I'm assuming, you know, your grandma doesn't
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: assume that you're doing all the things he's doing. So
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: after Guerrero, Dahmer lured a man and named Ronald Flowers
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Junior to his grandmother's basement, but that evening his grandmother
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: came down to check on him and saw the two
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: of them together, and fortunately this was before Flowers had
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: passed out from the drugs Dahmer had given him, so
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Dahmer did not hurt Flowers that night, and instead he
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: actually took him to the hospital. Thank God for Grandma,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: because Flowers having been seen by Dahmer's grandmother that evening
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: ultimately just saved his life, and Dahmer knew that if
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: anything were to happen to him, he would get caught.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: So by the summer of nineteen eighty eight, Dahmer had
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: killed four people in Wisconsin without discovery, and the mounting
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: decomposition odors and the grandmother's unease finally pushed Dahmer out
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: of her home. Because Catherine, disturbed by the smells and
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: her grandson's odd business hours, she requested him to move out,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and in September of nineteen eighty eight, shortly after Retre
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Guerrero's murder, Jeffrey Dahmer did move into his own apartment,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: and the move would lead to a temporary pause in
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: his killings. But that pause, however, was not due to
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: a crisis in conscience, but to Dahmer's arrest for a
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: different crime, and that was an essay of a thirteen
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: year old miner. So luckily this boy escaped from Jeffrey's
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: clutches and would report on it, but Dahmer would be
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: released on bail, having only spent a week in jail.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: But before his forced hiatus, Dahmer would claim one more victim.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Anthony Sears was twenty four years old and became Dahmer's
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: fifth victim on March twenty fifth, nineteen eighty nine, which
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: is Easter weekend of that year. And Sears was an
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: aspiring model with a lively personality and big dreams, and
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Dahmer would encounter Sears at a gay bar in Milwaukee,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: and the two struck up a conversation, and at the time,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Dahmer was awaiting sentencing from a previous school offense. But
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: despite the risk, Dahmer proceeded to hunt another victim. Cool
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: down period is getting real short now, and fearing he
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: was being watched by police, he chose to take Anthony
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Sears back to his grandma's home instead, and in the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: early morning hours in his grandmother's basement, Dahmer drugged Sears
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: and then strangled him to death. And with Anthony Sears,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Dahmer crossed a new line and he began trophy keeping
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: because Sears was the first victim in which Dahmer deliberately
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: preserved body parts as keepsakes. So after killing and dismembering Anthony,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Dahmer carefully cut off the man's head and also removed
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: his genitals, and he would treat these parts in acetone
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: to preserve them, and it would be kept together in
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: a small wooden box. And Dahmer stored this grizzly box
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: of mementoes in his closet and later at his workplace.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: In fact, while serving his jail sentence in nineteen eighty nine.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: For the earlier motivation case, Dahmer hid sears skull and
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: preserved remains in his work locker at the Ambrosia Chocolate factory,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: only to retrieve them after he was released on probation.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: And the concealment is just jaw dropping because for months,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: a box containing a human head set.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Quietly at his job site, unbeknownst.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: To anyone, and Dahmer would even a ca jasionally opened
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the box and look at the remains of Anthony Sears,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: deriving a sixth sense of comfort and arousal at the
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: same time. And Dahmer would even speak candidly about these
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: souvenirs later on.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Box in my bedroom closet and it contained the mummified
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: head and.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Genitals of.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: A young man I met in one of the bars
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: down in Milwaukee, and it was.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: A locked metal box.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: So preserving parts of his victims, Dahmer explained, was a
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: way to possess them even after death, and it just
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: fed his necrophilic urge to control. So by keeping body parts,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Dahmer could relive the murders and feel that a piece
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: of the person stayed with him.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Ah, what the fuck?
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: And this behavior just escalated after Sears because from this
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: point on, collecting trophies, skulls, bones, even preserved organs just
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: became part of his regular Dahmer ritual, and, as one
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: psychiatrist later noted, for Dahmer, the trophies were gratification, reliving
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: the experience of knowing these people. Okay, yeah, whatever, deed.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: It was just basically a twisted way of memorializing his
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: victims and keeping their presence in his life. Some people
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: keep photos, but not Dahmer. You'll just keep your femur
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: in a box. But not long after the murder of Sears, A,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Dahmer faced accountability for earlier essays, and in May of
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine he was actually sentenced to twelve months
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: in jail with work release and five years probation, and
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: this enforced jail time meant a temporary halt to his murders,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: thank god. However, the dark trophies of Anthony Sears waited
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: for him, and Dahmer would actually be released early in
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety and he would retrieve his preserved head and
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: genitals and he would bring them back to his new
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: apartment at nine to twenty four North twenty fifth Street
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, and there he placed sears skull in a
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: filing cabinet, which was a grim foundation for what would
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: become a personal shrine of skulls and bones. So Jeffrey
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Dahmer was now fully entrenched in his pattern kill, violate, dismember,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: preserve and repeat. And with his own apartment Apartment two thirteen,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: the infamous Apartment to thirteen, and no watchful relatives living
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: with him, his killings were about to accelerate with.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: A horrific pace.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: So Apartment two thirteen was a one bedroom unit in
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: a nondescript building on North twenty fifth Street in Milwaukee,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: and right was dirt cheap, and neighbors just kind of
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: kept to themselves, and behind one locked door, the unimaginable
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: was unfolding. So it was May of nineteen ninety that
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: he would move into this apartment, and on paper, it
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: looked like a fresh start. He had recently been released
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: from jail and was on probation, and he was working
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: at the Ambrosire Chocolate factory, and to most people he
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: seemed like a quiet, if somewhat odd tenant. But inside
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the apartment, Dahmer was spiraling into a depth of depravity.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: No one around him could see. And here the ritual
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: just evolved, and it was no longer just about killing.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: It became about preserving, collecting, and consuming a.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: New thing, wow, a new part of the ritual.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: He basically just built a private ecosystem of horror. He
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: would get a fifty seven gallon drum in the corner
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: which was used to dissolve torsos, a freezer and refrigerator
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: stocked with severed heads and human flesh, a growing collection
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: of skulls neatly cleaned and displayed in drawers and polaroids
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: of his victims. He did keep photos, and those weren't enough,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: and some posed in life, others staged in death, and
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: with some documenting the step by step process of dismemberments.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Oh it's so, we're fine.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: And above all, just a craving for absolute control, not
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: just over the moment of death, but over the victim's
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: body long after they died. And it was also at
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: the Oxford apartments where cannibalism became part of his routine,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: because Dahmer began portions of his victims, including their hearts
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: and biceps, and he would just cook them the way
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you cook any other meat and It obviously wasn't out
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: of hunger.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: But it was.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: It was about possession.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Everything he did was about possessing these people during and
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: after death.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: It made me feel like they were a permanent part
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: of me.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, neighbors were complaining about foul, fucking odors, loud power tools,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: and very strange behavior, but Dahmer would deflect with practice lies. Again,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: it was spoiled meat, it was plumbing issues, it was
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: a broken freezer. And his quiet demeanor just kind of
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: made him seem harmless. And he wasn't like this big,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: hulking guy like Ed Kemper. He was kind of like
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: spindily and looked, you know, kind of nerdy and just
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: like unassuming. So between May nineteen ninety and July nineteen
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: ninety one, Dahmer would murder twelve more young men and
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: boys inside Apartment two thirteen, accelerating in cool down peers.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: He had frequency, boldness, and brutality, and he even experimented
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: with new methods as well, including chemical lobotomies and preservation attempts.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: And yet for over a year he remained undetected. So
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: the Oxford apartments weren't only the scene of Dahmer's most
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: gruesome crimes. They were the epicenter of one of the
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: most horrific killing sprees in American history, and what followed
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: would stun the world. And it all began with a
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: man he met on May twentieth, nineteen ninety, Raymond Smith.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: So after his release from jail in nineteen ninety, Dahmer
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: did not take long to kill again. His sixth victim
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: and his first victim killed in Dahmer's infamous North twenty
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: fifth Street apartment was Raymond Lamont Smith, and Raymond was
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: a thirty two year old man whom friends also knew
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: by the alias Ricky Beeks and Smith at this point
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: in his life had fallen on hard times and occasionally
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: engaged in work. And on May twentieth, nineteen ninety, Dahmer
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: prepositioned Raymond Smith, offering him fifty dollars in exchange for
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: said Dahmer's apartment, and Smith would agree, thinking nothing of it,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: and would accompany Dahmer to Apartment two thirteen. So inside
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: the apartment, Dahmer would mix a cocktail for Raymond Smith
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: and it was spiked with a sedative, and once Smith
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: fell unconscious on the couch, Dahmer would.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Proceed to strangle him to death.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: So, with Raymond Smith's body now at his disposal, Dahmer
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: indulged in acts that were becoming habitual for him, so
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: he posed the corpse in erotic suggestive positions and used
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: his polaroid camera to take a series of photographs when
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: these polaroids, showing Smith's lifeless body arranged in various erotic portrayals,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: were kept by Dahmer as a personal trophy and aid
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: for alone time fantasies, and the recovery of these disturbing
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: photos later by police would provide undliable evidence of Dahmer's crimes. So,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: after capturing his photo shoot, Dahmer set about dismembering Raymond
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Smith in his small bathroom of his apartment, and after
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: dismembering and separating the flesh from bone, he would boil
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: the flesh in a large pot with a caustic chemical
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: solution which was a mix of soilex and bleach to
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: reduce the sludgy substance, and this allowed him later to
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: flush or dispose of the soft tissue easily, and the
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: remaining bones he dissolve in a vat of acid that
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: he obtained for this purpose. And in the end, almost
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: nothing of Raymond Smith remained except for his skull. Just again, just.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Horrorfule, horrifying.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I just think of every time I talk, I just
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: think about the families and them having to hear about this,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: and it makes me want to throw up, and I
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: feel so awful, like I feel horrified for them. My
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: heart always goes out to the families with these cases.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: So Dahmer would keep Smith's skull and store it in
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: the filing cabinet next to Anthony Sears's skull, and this
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: is where his personal collection of human skulls would form.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: And not surprisingly, the process of dismembering and dissolving Raymond
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Smith produced very strong odors. And neighbors in the Oxford
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: apartments notice the foul stench emanating from Dahmer's unit. I
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: don't want complaints for raised. Dahmer shrugged them off with
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: an excuse, and he simply said that his refrigerator had
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: malfunctioned and a bunch of meat spoiled inside, causing the
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: terrible smell. And this lie apparently placated people for the
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: time being, and remarkably, no one investigated further.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: At that moment, and it would be just a few weeks.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Later in June of nineteen ninety that Dahmer would kill again,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: this time experimenting with a new method of preserving his victims.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: So the seventh victim.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Was Edward Warren Smith, and he was a twenty seven
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: year old acquaintance of Dahmers and despite sharing a last name,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Edward Smith, was not related to Raymond Smith.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: So Eddie Smith was known.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: In Milwaukee's gay community and was known to be very
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: friendly and even had a nickname the Sheikh for his
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: habit of wearing a turban styled bandana. And it's believed
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: that Dahmer met Eddie Smith at a bar and lured
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: him on the pretext of just hanging out and making
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: some easy money, much like his prior victims, and in
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: late June nineteen ninety, Smith went to Dahmer's apartment to thirteen,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: and like the others, was given a sedative lay strink
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: and once in capacitated, Dahmer would straggle him to death.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: But what distinguished Edward Smith's case was Dahmer's attempt to
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: retain the body instead of immediately disposing of it. So
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: after killing Smith, Dahmer placed the body in his apartment
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: chests freezer instead of dismembering it right away, and he
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: had hoped that freezing might prevent the corpse from decomposing,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: and this was an experiment to see if he could
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: have a long lasting specimen. And for several months, Smith's
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: frozen corpse was kept intact, and perhaps Dahmer just fantasized
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: that he could revive it, or at least that would
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: satisfy his necrophilic urges to have an unrotted body at
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: his disposal. But unfortunately for Dahmer's aims, the experiment failed
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: because the freezing process caused the tissues to become dried
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: out and freezer burned, so when Dahmer eventually thought the body,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: he found it had decomposed badly and was not in
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: a condition to be preserved or displayed. So frustrated that
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Dahmer proceeded to get rid of Edward Smith's remains entirely,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: and he defrosted and dismembered the body and then used
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: his now stamp method of destruction acid and pulverization. In fact,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Dahmer actually tried another tactic. He actually attempted to dry
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Smith's skeleton in his oven, which caused the bones to
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: explode from heat. I just need a minute.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: It's a lot. Are you good? Are you good? To continue?
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: All right, We're going to continue.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: So this obviously ruined any chance of keeping the skeleton intact,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: and in the end, Dahmer disposed of all of Eddie
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Smith's remains, so not a single bone or body part
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: was recovered by the police in nineteen ninety one when
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: he was eventually caught, meaning Dahmer successfully destroyed all of
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: the evidence and he had derived a sort of excitement
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: from the idea of keeping a whole body or significant
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: parts of one. And when asked about Edward Smith, and
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Dahmer laminated that the freezing had ruined the flesh and
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: he was upset that he did not get to keep
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: any of Smith's body parts, and this failure may have
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: spurred him to refine other methods of preservation in subst murders.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: And it's notable that around this time Dahmer's murderous focus
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: was intensifying, and he was killing roughly one person a
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: month in nineteen ninety and finding new ways to fulfill
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: his disturbing fantasies. Because preserving skulls was no longer enough
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: for this guy. He wanted entire bodies, or at least
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: larger sections to keep with him. So the tragic case
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: of Edward Smith illustrates the escalation, and sadly this meant
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: that Edward Smith's life was gone and even his remains
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: were lost to his grieving family. And in early nineteen
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: ninety one, Edward's sister allegedly received a prank phone call
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: and it said, don't bother looking for your brother. He's dead,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: which is so, so incredibly sad, And though he was
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: reported missing shortly after his disappearance, the family did not
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: learn the truth of his fate until Dahmer's arrest. So
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: by September nineteen ninety, Dahmer was growing more depraved in
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: his actions, and his eighth victim, Ernest Marquis Miller, Ernest
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Marquez Miller was killed on September second, nineteen ninety and
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: with this, Dahmer introduced both cannibalism and new killing technique
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: into his pattern. So Ernest Miller was a twenty two
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: year old and was a former dance student who graduated
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: from Milwaukee High School of the Arts, and he was
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: in town from Chicago to visit family over Labor Day weekend,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: and Dahmer encountered Miller loitering outside a bookstore near twenty
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: seventh street of Wisconsin Avenue, and the young man was
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: very low on funds and he was looking for a
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: good time, so Dahmer approached him and offered him fifty
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: dollars if Miller would come back to Dahmer's apartment for
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: a few drinks and some photographs, and Ernest Miller unfortunately agreed,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: so inside Dahmer's apartment, the situation proceeded like the previous
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: incidences up to a point, because Dahmer gave Miller a
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: drink laced with sedatives, but realized he had only a
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: few sleeping pills left, so it wasn't enough to knock
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Miller fully out, so as Dahmer began to make advances,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Miller reportedly said, quote unquote, that'll cost you extra, and
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Dahmer then decided to act quickly, so in deviation from
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: his strangulation, Dahmer grabbed a knife and actually slashed Ernest
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Miller's throat, cutting the carotid artery, so Miller would bleed
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: to death within minutes on Dahmer's bedroom floor. And this
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: was the only known instance in which Dahmer used a
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: knife to kill his victim. So, with Ernest Miller's dead
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: body before him, now, Dahmer indulged in some of his
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: grisliest behaviors. He would pose the body in various ways
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: to get his pictures, and then he would move his
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: body to the bathtub, where he would dismember him, and
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: he allegedly kissed and spoke to his severed head while
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: doing all of this, and while dismembering Miller, he also
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: decided to eat parts of him while he was doing it,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: a practice that he had been contemplating, I guess in
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: the back of his mind. So he would remove sections
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: of Miller, notably the heart, the biceps, and a portion
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: of his leg, and set it aside in the freezer
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: to be eaten later. And over the following days, Dahmer
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: would cook and consume pieces of Earnest's flesh, frying them
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: in a skillet and seasoning them to taste, and this
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: was the beginning of Dahmer's reputation as the Milwaukee cannibal,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: and he would later admit that he found the meat
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: tasted like beef ough and that consuming his victims gave
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: him pleasure and a sense of permanent ownership over them.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: And in addition to cannibalizing Miller, Dahmer preserved other body
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: parts as well, and he not only kept the head,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: but he also kept Ernest's entire skeleton as well, So
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: psychologically this was allegedly Dahmer's way of overcoming his fear
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: of rejection, because if he ingested or physically retained parts
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: of his victims, they could never leave him, and when
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Miller's family reported him missing, they had no idea he
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: had met such a fate. And in a heartbreaking footnote,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: about two weeks after Miller vanished, his grandmother received a
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: prank phone call as well, where a faint voice on
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: the line cried, help, help, It's just that gives me chills,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: That just makes me so so incredibly sad for the family,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: the call was unlikely related, but in under scored the
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: agony of Miller's loved ones, and yet again they would
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: not know the true fate of Miller until Dahmer confessed
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety one. So three weeks after Ernest Miller's murder,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Dahmer would kill again, claiming his ninth victim, even though
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: by his own account, his desires for this particular victim
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: had waned. And this victim was David C. Thomas, and
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: he was a twenty two year old man and father
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: of a two year old girl, and Dahmer would meet
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: him on September twenty fourth, nineteen ninety near the Grand
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Avenue Mall in Milwaukee, and the two would strike up
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: a conversation and Dahmer, ever on the prowl, offered Thomas
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: money to come back to his apartment for drinks and photos,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: and Thomas reluctantly agreed, not realizing the deadly trap he
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: would be walking into. So back at Apartment two thirteen,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: he followed his routine. He would give him a drink
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: and he would wait till he was unconscious. However, Dahmer
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: later said that once Thomas was passed out, he actually
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: realized that he didn't find him as attractive as his
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: other victims. So this presented Dahmer with a problem because
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Thomas was a lie I been unconscious in his apartment,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: but Dahmer wasn't compelled by him. But ultimately Dahmer decided
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: he had to kill David Thomas anyway, and this wasn't
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: out of desire. This time, but it was out of
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: self preservation because he knew that if Thomas woke up,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: he could potentially fight back or report the drugging. So
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: despite the lack of interest, Dahmer strangled David Thomas to
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: death while the man was still unconscious, and after killing him,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Dahmer made no effort to keep any mementos from Thomas,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: though he still documented the dismemberment process via photos, but
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: after he was done with his body, he would discard
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: of all of it, and unfortunately, nothing of David Thomas
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: was ever recovered, and tragically, Thomas's ex girlfriend and family
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: spent months looking for him, not knowing he had been
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: brutally slain, and at Dahmer's trial, David Thomas's mother Inez
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: addressed the court saying, through tears, you took away his
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: two year old child's father. She sits at the window
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: asking where is Dada. It's just so fun So the
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: full horror of what happened to Thomas only emerged when
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Dahmer gave a detailed statement. Until then, Thomas's case was
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: a missing person's mystery with no leads, and by the
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: end of nineteen ninety Jeffrey Dahmer had killed four people
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: that year, Smith, Smith, Miller, and Thomas so He had
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: at this point murdered nine individuals, but his appetite for
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: destruction was not satisfied. In fact, it was accelerating, and
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: when nineteen ninety one began, Dahmer's killing spree would reach
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: its climax with the most shocking crimes yet to come.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Curtis Darrell Strouder was Dahmer's tenth victim. He was just
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: seventeen years old and had recently lost a job as
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: a nursing aid, and he was known by his friends
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: as a gentle, fun loving teen who sometimes went by
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: the nickname Demitra in the local gay community. And of
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: February eighteenth, nineteen ninety one, Dahmer spotted Curtis Stroud waiting
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: on a bus stop near Marquette University in Milwaukee, and
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: seizing the opportunity, Dahmer approached Strouter and struck up a conversation,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: and he quickly offered him money in exchange for posing
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: for nude photographs and sex, and Curtis would agree and
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: a company Dahmer back to Apartment two thirteen, and inside
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the apartment, Dahmer handed Strutter a drink laced with sedatives,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: rendering the teenager unconscious, and then Dahmer would methodically strangle
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: him to death using a leather strap, and then he
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: would continue his routine as he did all the others.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: He would photograph, dismember, and then retain trophies and Curtis's
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: disappearance in nineteen ninety one was deeply felt by his
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: family and the community because he had lived with his
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: grandmother and had plans to get his ged and attend
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: modeling school. But they had no idea what had actually
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: happened to Curtis until the horrifying truth came out. But
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: for Dahmer, however, Strutter's murder only fueled his desire to continue.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Aerrol Lindsay was the eleventh victim of Jeffrey Dahmer. He
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: was a nineteen year old man described by a family
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: as an outgoing mama's boy who loved joke telling and
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: had a bright future ahead. But on April seventh, nineteen
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: ninety one, Lindsay left his home to go get a
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: key cut at a local shop, and he never returned,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: and it's believed that Dahmer encountered Lindsay on the street
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: that day, and Dahmer, now extremely practice in deception, managed
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: to get the teenager to accompany him to his apartment,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: and at Apartment two thirteen, Dahmer carried out his familiar routine.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: At first, he.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Gave Lindsay a drug to drink that rendered him unconscious.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: But then Dahmer had a different plan for Lindsay because
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: his obsession for control had reached the point where he
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: wanted a compliant, breathing partner, essentially just a mindless sex slave.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: So once Lindsay was unconscious, Dahmer fetched an electric drill,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: and in a truly nightmarish procedure, Dahmer drilled a hole
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: into Lindsay's skull while the young man was still alive
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: but sedated, and then Dahmer would inject a solution of
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: hydrochloric acid through the hole directly into Lindsay's brain, and
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Dahmer hoped this would chemically induce a zombie like state,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: even though he had no business doing this and had
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: no idea if.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: It would work.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: But this procedure left Lindsay alive but in a vegetative,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: unresisting condition. So this was the first time Dahmer tried
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: to improvise a lobotomy technique, but not shockingly, the experiment
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: did not go as Dahmer idvigiant, and after the acid injection,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Lindsay woke up and he actually regained consciousness, reportedly saying,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: I have a headache. What time is it? And this
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: was a sign that he was not incapacitated enough, and
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Dahmer was kind of astonished that Lindsay was still functional,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: so he quickly gave Lindsay more sedatives to subdue him again,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: and then he would strangle him to ensure that he
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: was dead. But for all we know, Lindsay had already
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: been dying from the head trauma that he endured. So
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: with Lindsay now ceased, and Dahmer continued to push the
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: boundaries of his depravity. So he would decapitate Lindsay's body
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: as he did to the others, and he would put
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: his head aside for processing later, but this time, instead
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: of dismembering the corpse, he decided to fillay the corpse,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: meaning he peeled the skin from Lindsay's body, and Dahmer
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: would attempt to preserve the skin to keep it supple
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: and perhaps to later use it to display it and
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: according to his confession, he soaked Lindsay's skin in a
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: saline solution and stored it for a few weeks in
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: hopes it wouldn't decay. And ultimately this attempt failed and
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: the skin became too frayed and smelly, and Dahmer reluctantly
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: disposed of it. But the fact that he tried indicates
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: the extreme lengths he was willing to preserve a physical
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: piece of his victims. And Lindsay's murder is also very
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: significant because of the psychological insight it provides, because Dahmer's
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: attempt at creating a zombie slave reveals the depth of
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: his need for control.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: Then I tried to.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Keep the person alive by inducing a zombie like state
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: by injecting first dilute acid solution into their brain or
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: hot water, and it never did completely work.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: And Lindsay's family was absolutely devastated by this loss because
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: they had lost a below its son and brother in
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: the most horrifying way imaginable, and Lindsay's mother, Mildred, struggled
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: to understand how her shy, home loving boy even met Dahmer,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: saying he wasn't the type to talk to just anybody.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: He went to work and then he came home. He
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: wouldn't even go out with his friends without calling me
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: to see what I was doing. So the randomness and
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: brutality of his death at the hands of Jeffrey Dahmer
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: would forever haunt them. Anthony Tony Hughes was thirty one
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: years old and was murdered by Dahmer in May nineteen
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: ninety one. And Tony Hughes was unique among Dahmer's victims
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: because he was actually death and mute. He had lost
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: hearing when he was an infant due to illness. So
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: on the night of May twenty fourth, at nineteen ninety one,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Hughes went out dancing at a nightclub in Milwaukee, and
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: it was there that he would cross paths with Jeffrey
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Dahmer and communication between them was done through written notes
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: and perhaps some liperating on Tony's part, and Dahmer invited
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Tony back to his apartment for a photoshoet proposition, offering
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: him money in return as he does. And Tony Hughes,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: who was visiting from Mattison, was staying with family in
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Milwaukee at the time, and he would be last seen
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: alive on May twenty fourth, and we know from Dahmer's
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: confession that Hughes went to Dahmer's apartment willingly that night,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: and once inside, Dahmer wasted no time in drugging his guest,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: and Tony Hughes, unable to hear, would not have realized
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: if Dahmer locked the door or if any unusual sounds occurred,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: so he drank the laced beverage and became unconscious, and
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Dahmer would then attempt to make another zombie, drilling a
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: hole into Hugh's head and then injecting hydrochloric acid, but
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: this time the attempt was fatal. So at this point
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Dahmer had another corpse in his apartment, but he did
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: not immediately dispose or dismember Tony Hughes. For whatever reason,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Dahmer left Hugh's body intact on the bedroom floor for
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: a couple of days, and the corpse of Tony Hughes
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: was laying in Dahmer's apartment on the evening of May
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: twenty sixth, nineteen ninety one, when Dahmer decided to go
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: out to find another victim, and this decision reprove almost
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: catastrophic for Dahmer's freedom as it set the stage for
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: an infamous incident, and eventually, after the events with Conorac,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: which will be detailed next, Dahmer's returned to Tony Hughes's
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: body and he would take polaroid photos and then he
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: would continue to dismember Hughes, keeping two significant pieces of Tony,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: which was the skull and his vertebrae, and Shirley Hughes,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: which was Tony's mother, had to endure the confirmation that
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: those remains belonged to her son, and in court she
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: movingly spoke and even signed in sign language, I love
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: you to her deceased son as a farewell, and the
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Netflix dramatization of Dahmer's story highlighted Tony's chapter, imagining a
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: deeper relationship, but in reality, Dahmer and Tony only met
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: that night and there was no romance.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know why the fuck they would do that.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: It actually makes me fucking sick to my stomach that
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Hollywood thinks that they need to like romanticize this and
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: to make it feel I don't know, like deeper than
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: what it was. When when Jeffrey Dahmer was literally just
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: a fucking monster, and they're so dishonest to his real story.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: And for the family to watch that and see them
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: like make a fake story about their son as just
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: it just infuriates me because Tony was simply ensnared by
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Dahmer's false friendliness like all the others, and he would
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: be victim number twelve, and his murder directly preceded one
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: of the worst failures of law enforcement in the Dahmer case.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: And Tony Hughes' mother later said of her son's murderer,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: I don't see how someone could.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Be that evil. He destroyed my family.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: And Tony's story just underscores the utter vulnerability of Dahmer's victims.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Even a cautious kind man who couldn't hear his predator's
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: footsteps was not spared. Contract sent them somephon. Age fourteen
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: suffered perhaps the most infamous and heartbreaking fate of all
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: of Dahmer's victims, larger because there was a moment when
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: he could have been saved. So Contract was the younger
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: brother of Somsak, who was the boy mentioned earlier that
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Dahmer had essayed, not killed, but escaped and then went
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: to jail for in nineteen eighty eight, and this th
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: awsome Fun family were refugees from Laos and had no
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: idea the man who had assaulted their older son years
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: before would come for contract. But on May twenty sixth,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, Dahmer went out looking for another victim,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: and he would find Contract on Wisconsin Avenue. Despite being
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: only fourteen. Contract was out alone that evening and Dahmer
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: would meet him and convince the boy to come back
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: to his apartment, offering money to pose for nude photos.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: And once they reached apartment to thirteen, Dahmer gave Conrac
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: drugged liquor, as he had done with others, and with
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: a fourteen year old now unconscious, Dahmer carried out yet
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: another one of his zombification procedures he had attempted on Lindsey,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: and he would drill a hole in contract skull and
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: inject hydrochloric acid into his frontal lobe of his brain.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: And Contract was smaller and younger than Lindsay, and the
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: acid put him into a deeply unconscious and semi labotomized state,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: and Dahmer would just leave his body on the floor
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: next to Tony Hughes's dead body and went out to
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: purchase more alcohol. So we're kind of going back to
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: that timeline where he went to go look for another
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: victim when Tony Hughes was still on his bedroom floor,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: so now they were just lying on the floor next
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: to each other. This was before he disposed of Tony.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: So it was now in the early hours of May
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: twenty seventh, nineteen ninety one, and during Dahmer's absence, Contract
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: actually woke up and escaped the apartment, which was a
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: rare opportunity for one of Dahmer's victims. But despite the
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: skull fracture and acid in his brain, the resilient teenager
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: regained consciousness enough to stumble out of the door, and
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: naked and bleeding and obviously disoriented, Contract made it to
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: the street outside the apartment complex and there at about
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: two a m. Three women spotted the boy and their
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: names were Sandra Smith, Tina Spyvey, and Nicole Childress. And
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: they were alarmed. I mean, this was a teen boy
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: who was nude and bruised and seemed completely incoherent, and
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: they would call nine to one one.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: I'm all twenty fifth State, many sing John me Breton,
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: naked and beaten up in brus. He can't see and
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: he's study fall out.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: He has he but he has no calls on hes
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: real and I you know, I got no corner on him.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: I didn't think him.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: He needs hurorthy a twenty fifty state.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: The corner at twenty fifty state.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: He's just on the corner of the street.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in the ministreet.
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: He's done a lot.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: We tried her.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: People try in heaven and he's unconscious right now. He's brus.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: He must have jumped on he's cap blow it in.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: So as they tried to help the dazed boy, Dahmer
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: returned to find his experiment literally out on the street,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: surrounded by concerned bystanders. And that's when a tragic miscarriage
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: of justice ensued because Milwaukee police officers John Belkerzak and
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Joseph Gabraisch arrived in response to the nine one one call,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: and Dahmer, ever composed under pressure, told the officers that
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: the boy was his nineteen year old boyfriend and that
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: contract was just drunk after a lover's quarrel. But the
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: three women who decided to call nine one one empathetically
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: argued with Dahmer and the police that the boy was
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: a child in danger, but Dahmer convinced the officers that
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Contract was an adult, and he produced his polaroid snapshots
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: of Contract posing in his underwear as supposed proof of
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: their relationship, and the officers, unfortunately decided to believe Dahmer's story,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: and they literally escorted Contrac, who was weakly protesting, back
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: into apartment two thirteen with Dahmer, and inside they did
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: notice the foul smell coming from Tony Hughes's body, which
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: was inside Dahmer's bedroom at this point, but Dahmer casually
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: explained it all away, as he usually did, and the
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: police did not investigate any further, and they did not
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: run Dahmer's name through any system. Just fucking failure of
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: the justice system, like incredibly, so I'm sure they felt
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: so much guilt after the fact, and they should because
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: that is a miscarriage of justice. So after they brought
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Contract and Dahmer back to the apartment, they would say
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: take good care and they would leave, and the women
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: were outraged and tried to warn the police, but they
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: were threatened to butt out of what the officers considered
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: a domestic issue. And once the police left, Dahmer wasted
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: no time and he would inject a second load of
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: acid into Contract's brain, this time using a larger quantity,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: and the boy would die shortly after. And then the
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: following days he would dismember Contract and he would dispose
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: of him, once again saving his skull. But the Contract
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: incident is one of the most notorious episodes in American
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: true crime. It just exemplified that not only Dahmer's cunning,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: but also systemic failures, but potential racial biases, discrimination towards
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: gay couples, and just sheer negligence. And after Dahmer's arrest,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: it was revealed via police radio recordings that the two
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: officers had actually made discriminatory remarks and jokes after leaving
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: the scene, even laughing about how they were reunited lovers.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: So obviously, the community was outraged and these police officers
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: were later fired, though they were reinstated years after, which
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: I don't even want to talk about. And for the family,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: the pain was indescribable. Not only had they endured one
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: son's of use by Dahmer, but they lost another son
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: to him. UK you in part to the preventable police
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: blunder and Dahmer himself admitted that after the police returned
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: the boy to him, he could not believe his luck,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: and it just emboldened him to continue feeling untouchable at
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: this point, and he would go on to kill four
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: more people after conrac confident that he could deflect any
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: sort of suspicion, even under the most unlikely circumstances.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: So just a few weeks.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Later, Dahmer continued his murderous spree and his fourteenth victim,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Matt Turner, a twenty year old young man from Chicago,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: had just participated in the Chicago Pride Parade on June thirtieth,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, and at a bus station after the
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Pride event, Turner happened to meet Jeffrey Dahmer, and Dahmer,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: likely scouting the bus station for potential targets returning from
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: the festivities, struck up a conversation with Turner, and he
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: offered an all expenses paid trip to Milwaukee to participate
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: in a professional photoshoot. An eager for such an opportunity,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Matt Turner agreed and boarded the Greyhound bus with Dahmer
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: from Chicago to Milwaukee that very day, and upon arriving
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, Dahmer brought Turner to apartment to thea and
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: almost immediately he proceeded with his routine, spiking his drink,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: giving him sedatives and knocking him unconscious and then after
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: strangling him to death and then dismembering his body. And
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: while doing so, he would decapitate Turner and keep his
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: head in his freezer, and Dahmer would leave Turner's dismember
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: torso submerged in a chemical bath to break it down.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: And then there was Jeremiah Weinberger, who was twenty three
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: and became Dahmer's fifteenth victim. He was another young man
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: from the Chicago area, and Weinberger was a very cheerful,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: organized individual who worked in a customer service at a
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: video store and just loved art. And on July fifth,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, Jeremiah went to a popular Chicago gay
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: bar called Carol's Speakeasy for a night out and it
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: was there that he would meet Jeffrey Dahmer, and Dahmer
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: would invite Jeremiah to spend the weekend with him back
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, framing it as just like a fun getaway,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: and Jeremiah's friend later recounts seeing him leave the club
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: with an unidentified man. So they would take a Greyhound
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: bus from Chicago to Milwaukee, arriving at Dahmer's apartment the
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: very next day, but Dahmer did not kill Weinberger immediately. Reportedly,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: they actually spent the first date together and Weinberger's even
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: consented to some sexual activity with Dahmer. However, that following day,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Weinberger mentioned that he wanted to return to Chicago sooner
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: than planned, and unwilling to let Weinberger leave because he likes.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: To possess the people he's with.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Dahmer knew that this was the time to act, so
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: after Weinberger was unconscious, Dahmer did attempt to zombify him
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: as well, this time using boiling water instead of acid. Well,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: the scalding water would cause irreparable damage to Weinberger's brain,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: and Weinberger did not wake up or get revived after
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: the procedure. However, he did not die instantly. He allegedly
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: was rendered into a comatose state and clung to life
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: for a day or so. During this condition, which I
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: can't even imagine what that was like for him. Dahmer
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: proceeded to dismember his body and decapitate him, and his
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: severed head would also go in Dahmer's freezer and the
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: rest of him would be placed in an acid drum.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: But at this point the acid drums still contained Matt
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Turner's remain so it was at this point where his
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: acid drum was actually getting quite full, which is disgusting
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: to think about and horrifying. And back in Chicago, Weinberger's
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: friends became concerned when he didn't return after the weekend,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: so they would post missing persons flyers all over Chicago
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: when he failed to come home, but sadly, Jeremiah was
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: already gone, and next was Oliver Lacey, who was twenty
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: three years old and was Jeffrey Dahmer's sixteenth victim. And
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Oliver was an athletic man originally from Oak Park, Illinois,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: and in July nineteen ninety one, he was living in
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: Milwaukee with plans to eventually bring his fiance and young
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: son he had a two year old to join him.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: And Lacey had actually moved to Milwaukee shortly after his
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: father's passing, and he was described by family as very
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: outspoken and very friendly, and he was always wearing a
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: cross around his neck for good luck, but unfortunately, Lacey
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: would cross paths with Jeffrey Dahmer on July fifteenth and
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one near twenty seventh Street, and Dahmer would
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: proposition him with a familiar offer of money to pose
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: for nude photos, and he went with Dahmer back to
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: his apartment, and once there the two actually engaged in
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: sexual activity before or Dahmer drugged him. However, Dahmer did
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: something different this time. He actually attempted to prolong the
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: experience to the fullest, and Dahmer would use chloroform on
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Lacey repeatedly over the course of a day, trying to
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: keep him in a long lasting days but obviously it
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: didn't work indefinitely, and Dahmer phoned into work to request
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: a day off and it was granted. But finally Dahmer
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: strangled Oliver Lacey to death when he could no longer
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: keep him under. And once Lacey was dead, Dahmer did
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: what he did always with the corpse. He would defile
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: the corpse, dismember it, and to capitate him, and he
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: would actually place Lacey's heart in the refrigerator and he
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: would put Lacey's head next to the other heads that
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: he had in his freezer, and Lacey's other remains were
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: handled similarly as Dahmer's other victims, but he would actually
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: put Lacey's skeleton in the freezer as well, alongside other
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: collected bones from earlier victims. But outside his successful murder spree,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: Dahmer's life was beginning to unravel externally because he was
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: actually fired from his job at the Ambrogiout Chocolate factory
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: for missing too many shifts, and the firing just sent
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: him into a despairing spiral. So jobless and with an
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: eviction looming over him, Dahmer felt the world closing in
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: on him, and it made him both reckless and desperate,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: and he would strike again very quickly. Joseph Arthur Braidhoff
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: was twenty five years old and was Jeffrey Dahmer's seventeenth
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: and final victim. Joseph was a Midwestern father of three
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: who had come to Milwaukee from Minnesota in a search
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: for employment, and in July nineteen ninety one, he was
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: temporarily staying at his brother's families on the North side
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: of Milwaukee while looking for work, and on July nineteenth
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, just spent the morning job hunting and
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: had an interview scheduled, but unfortunately, that afternoon he would
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: cross paths with Jeffrey Dahmer at the bus stop, and Dahmer,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: prowling yet again, even though there was chaos ensuing in
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: his life, struck up a conversation and he would invite
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Braidhoff back to his apartment and Braidhoff would accept, and
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: inside the apartment the pattern repeated once again. They had
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: consensual six and then Dahmer handed Braidhoff a drugged drink
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: and once the young man was on con just Dahmer
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: strangled him with a leather strap and Joseph thus met
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: the same fate as the sixteen victims before him. And
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: after killing Joseph, he actually laid him on his bed
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: and he just left joseph corpse lying on the bed
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: for a couple of days while he rested and plotted
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: his next move. However, by July twenty first, Dahmer knew
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: he had to get rid of Joseph's body, especially since
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: it was decomposing faster due to the summer heat. Because
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: even though it had only been a couple of days,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: he had actually found maggots covering the head when he
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: uncovered the body. So he would get rid of the
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: body same as he did the others, and he would
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: keep the trophies same as he did the others. And
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: little did Dahmer know that this would be the last
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: victim that he would claim. So, after seventeen murders across
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: thirteen years, it ended with the one man who said no,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: the one man who ran, and the one man who lived.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: So on the evening of July twenty second, which was
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: a day after he got rid of his last victim,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer left his apartment with the intention of finding
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: victim number eighteen, and that man would be Tracy Edwards.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: And Tracy was a thirty two year old man living
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, and he was out going and very street smart,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: and Dahmer would meet him near Grand Avenue Mall and
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: he would offer him one hundred dollars to come back
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: to his place to pose for photos and have a
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: few drinks, and Edward would agree, as many before him did.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: So Jeffrey and Tracy would go back to apartment to thirteen,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: and from the moment he stepped inside, Tracy felt something
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: was off because the smell was overpowering. Inside the apartment,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: boxes of hydrochloric acid were sitting just out in the open,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: and he got suspicious immediately. So they talked briefly, and
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Dahmer directed Edwards to look at his tropical fish, and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: that is when he would place a handcuff on one
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: of Edwards's wrists, and Edward grew visibly uncomfortable, asking what's happening,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: And that's when Dahmer attempted to place the other handcuff
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: on Edwards, but he was unsuccessful, and he was trying
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: to guide him to the bedroom to pose for photos.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: And in the bedroom, Edwards saw the blue fifty seven
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: gallon drum where the smell he noted before was coming from,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: and he also noted a TV playing the Exorcus three
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: on VHS, a movie Dahmer said he watched frequently.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: I felt so hopelessly.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: Evil and perverted that I actually derives a sort of
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: pleasure from watching that tape.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: And that's when Dahmer would pull a knife on him,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: and Edwards also noticed that Dahmer's rocking back and forth,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: chanting under his breath, I'm going to eat your.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: Heart, so fcking horrifying.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: I can't even I can't, I literally can't even imagine.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: That's when Edwards attempted to keep Dahmer calm through conversation
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: while looking for a way out. Very smart man, he
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: could even asked to use the bathroom, and then he
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: asked if they could have a beer in the living
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: room afterwards, and Dahmer would then agree and they would
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: move into the living room, and that's when Edwards requested
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom again, noting that Dahmer's concentration
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: had lapsed, and that's when he would punch Dahmer and
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: escape through the front door, and he would run down
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: the street with a cuff still attached to his wrist
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: king metal, and that's when he would flag down a
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: Milwaukee police officer, Robert Roth and Ralph Mueller, telling them
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: that a freak had just tried to kill him. And
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: that's when he led them back to apartment two thirteen,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: and Dahmer would answer the door very calmly, and when
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: the officers stepped inside, they noticed the smell immediately and
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: they would ask about the key to the handcuff that
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: was still on Tracy's wrist and Dahmer mentioned it was
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: in the bedside drawer and he would actually attempt to
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: try to get it before the officers did, but he
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: was instructed to back off. So Officer Mueller would walk
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: into his bedroom and open the drawer, and that's when
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: he would completely freeze because inside were polaroid photographs, dozens
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: of them, showing dismembered bodies, decapitated heads, and images taken
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: during the process of dismemberment itself. So Mueller picked up
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: the photos and brought them to Ralph and said these
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: are real. And Dahmer realized at that moment what was happening,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: and he would lunge toward the officers, but it was
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: too late and he was wrestled to the ground and
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: arrested immediately. And inside the apartment, authorities would find two
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: human hearts and a portion of bicep in the fridge,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: four severed heads in the kitchen, a fifty seven gallon
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: drum filled with acid, a decomposing torsos, an entire torso
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: in the freezer, seven skulls, some painted, some bleached, displayed
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: like trophies, multiple hands and internal organs, Seventy four polaroids
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: documenting each stage of murder and mutilation. The scene was
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: just completely beyond comprehension, and in the middle of it
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: all was Dahmer, and he was initially distraught, saying, I
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: can't believe I was so stupid. I never thought I'd
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: get caught like this. I was always so careful. But
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: then he was very quiet and cooperative, just realizing that
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: there was nothing he could do, and he would say,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: for what I did, I should be dead. And eventually
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Dahmer would go over sixty hours of confession to detectives,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: describing all seventeen murders in chilling, precise detail, and the
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: world would begin to understand the horrific scale of what
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: had happened inside apartment to thirteen. So on July twenty second,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, Jeffrey Dahmer sat down in an interrogation
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: room with detectives Patrick Kennedy and Dennis Murphy, and over
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: the next six weeks he would speak openly, calmly, and
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: in graphic detail about the murders of seventeen young men
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: and boys, giving investigators a blow by blow account of
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: every killing, every method, and every motive. And according to Kennedy,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: Dahmer never actually asked for a lawyer.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: He said that he created this horror, and it only
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: makes sense I do everything to put an end to it.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: So Dahmer would confess to everything, to luring victims with money, alcohol,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: modeling gigs, to drugging them, to strangling them, to performing
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: essay acts on the corpses, to dismembering them, to committing necrophilia,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: to keeping body parts as trophies, to taking polaroids, to
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: attempting zombie experiments by injecting acid or boiling water into
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: his victims' brains, to eating body parts of his last
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: three victims, and he had parts of his other victims
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  Speaker 1: stored for eventual consumption as well, and finally building an
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: altar of skulls and bones meant to be a memorial
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: where he could sit and feed his obsession.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: And what was the purpose of the author going to
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: be as a sort of memorial, a point where I
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: could I don't know. It's so bizarre and strange.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: It's hard to describe a place where I could collect
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: my thoughts.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: And feed my obsession.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: And Dahmer was just unusually self aware and deeply, deeply disturbed,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: and he told police that his killings weren't driven by
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: hatred or rage, but by the need to possess.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: These obsessive desires and thoughts, wanting to control them to
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know how to put it, possess them permanently.
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  Speaker 4: And that's why you killed them, right right.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: Dahmer would say, the killing was a means to an end.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: That was the least satisfactory part. I didn't enjoy doing that.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: That's why I tried to create living zombies with uric
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: acid in the drill, but it never worked. No, the
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  Speaker 2: killing was not the objective. I just wanted to have
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  Speaker 2: the person under my complete control, not having to consider
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  Speaker 2: their wishes, being able to kill, keep them there as
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: long as I wanted.
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  Speaker 1: Despite the horrific nature of his crimes, Dahmer remained very polite, respectful,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: and almost eerily calm during his entire confession, and he
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: didn't seem to regret his actions either. In fact, he
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: regularly claimed that he would have continued doing this if
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: he hadn't gotten caught, But he didn't seem confused as
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: to why he had the compulsions he did, and he
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: recognized that they were wrong, but he owned it and
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: made no excuses, and in the end, Dahmer helped police
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: identify each victim, often recalling names, dates, and even details
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: from memory, aided by photographs that he had taken, and
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: his confession became the core evidence in his trial to come.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: But it also served as something else, and that was
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: a horrifying map of the mind of a man who,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: for thirteen years killed in secret and told no one.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: So Dahmer would be charged with sixteen counts of first
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: degree murder, but the legal process that followed would be
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: viewed by the world and raised disturbing questions about mental health,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: the justice, and the very definition of evil. So on
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: July twenty fifth, nineteen ninety one, Dahmer would be formally
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: charged with four murders, and over the next few weeks,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: additional charges were filed, eventually totaling fifteen murder charges in
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin and one murder charge in Ohio for the nineteen
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: seventy eight killing of Stephen Hicks. And he ultimately stood
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: trial for fifteen murders committed in Wisconsin between nineteen eighty
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: seven and nineteen ninety one, and the trial would begin
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  Speaker 1: at January thirtieth, nineteen ninety two, in Milwaukee County Circuit Court.
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  Speaker 1: Before Judge Lawrence Graham, and Dahmer would plead guilty but
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: insane to all charges. Yeh, right, dude, acknowledging that he
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: had committed the murders, but arguing that he was suffering
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: from a severe mental disease.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: At the time.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: And the court room was tense because in the gallery
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: sat families of the victims, and behind the defense table
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: sat Dahmer listening quietly as his crimes were recounted in detail,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: and he was very calm and clean cut during the
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: whole trial. And the prosecution's goal was very clear to
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: prove Dahmer was sane and that he knew what he
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: was doing and understood the consequences. But the defense argued
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: that he suffered from a necrophilia borderline to personality disorder,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: schizotypal personality disorder, and psychotic compulsions so overwhelming that he
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: was incapable of stopping himself.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: So.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: Over the course of the trial, many witnesses were called,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: and these included FBI profilers testifying about serial offender behavior,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: forensic psychologists debating whether Dahmer fit the legal definition of insanity,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: and detectives describing the contents of apartment two, thirteen medical
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: examiners detailing the cause of death for each victim, and
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: family members giving powerful victim impact statements, but none were
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: more seering than Rita Isbel, which was a sister of
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: the victim Errol Lindsay, whose outburst toward Dahmer became one
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: of the most iconic moments in true crime history.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: And she said, I'm going to kill you. I don't
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: want to ever see my mother have to go through
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: this again.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: Never. Yeah, And she actually had to be physically restrained,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: and Dahmer just showed no reaction, and when asked if
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: he wanted to speak, Dahmer would read from a prepared
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: statement that lasted about five minutes long, and his voice
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: was flat and his expression was unreadable, and he would say,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: your honor, it is over.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: This has never been a case of trying to get free.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: I didn't never want freedom. Frankly, I wanted death for myself.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: This was a case to tell the world that.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: I did what I did not for reason of hate.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: I hated no one or both. Now I believe I
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: was sick. The doctors have told me about my sickness,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: and now I have some peace. I know how much
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: harm I have caused, and I understand their rightful hate.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: I should have stayed with God. I tried and failed
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: and created a Holocaust. Thank God, there will be no
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: more harm I can do. I know my time in
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: prison will be terrible, but I deserve whatever I get
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: because of what I've done. That is like a compacted
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: version of what he said. And on February fifteenth, nineteen
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: ninety two, the jury returned its decision and he would
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: be found guilty on all fifteen counts of murder and
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: obviously criminally sane and criminally responsible for each killing. And
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer was sentenced to fifteen consecutive life terms and
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: there would be no death penalty. And a few months
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: after his conviction in Milwaukee, Dahmer faced trial for his
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: first murder in Ohio, and he pleaded guilty in the
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: sentence to a sixteen life sentence on May first, nineteen
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: ninety two, and with that, Dahmer was sent to the
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Columbia Correctional Institute in Portage, Wisconsin, where his final chapter
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: would begin. So Dahmer was initially placed in productive isolation
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: due to his notoriety of his crimes and potential threats
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: from other inmates, so for approximately a year, Dahmer was
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: kept mostly separated and he was allowed out of a
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: cell only with restraints and underguard. But he was described
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: as a model inmate. He was quiet, compliant, and not
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: prone to trouble, and during his early imprisonment, Dahmer experienced
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: a personal transformation, becoming increasingly remorseful and turning to religion,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: and in May of nineteen ninety four, he would actually
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: be baptized into Christianity by Minister Roy Radcliffe within the prison,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: and the baptism occurred on May tenth in nineteen ninety four,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: and the same day, serial killer John Wayne Gacy was
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: executed in Illinois, and there was also a solar eclipse,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: so I don't know what that means, but it's weird.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: But Dahmer expressed a desire for forgiveness and salvation and
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: acknowledged that many would view his conversion as skeep, which yeah,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: fair enough. But after about a year of protected custody
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: in mid nineteen ninety three, Dahmer was allowed limited interaction
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: with other inmates and he was assigned as simple work duties,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: such as cleaning prison bathrooms or working in the library.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Under supervision, and then eventually convinced authorities to let him
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: into the gen pop, which is general population of the prison,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: on a limited basis, understanding the risks involved and in
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: gen pop, Dahmer initially tried to keep a low profile,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: but infamy made that impossible, and some inmates were openly
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: hostile while others were morbidly fascinated, and Dahmer would sometimes
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: lean into his dark reputation, making Macob jokes and shaping
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: prison foods into severed limbs using ketchup as blood real
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Christian of you, and these antics were reprimanded by guards
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: and angered fellow inmates, and in July nineteen ninety four,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: inmate Asvoldo d' rothi attempted to slash Dahmer's throat with
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: a razor blade shank after chapel service, but Dahmer would
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: receive only superficial wounds, and prison officials would offer him
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: a return to protective isolation, but Dahmer would refuse, and
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: he actually maintained a very close relationship with his family
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: during his prison time as well, particularly with his father Lionel,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: who visited regularly and maintained contact, and his mother Joyce,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: who had moved to California began speaking with him by
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: phone and they would actually have weekly calls. But his
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: brother David was the exception. He had allegedly distanced himself
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: from the family, completely understandable, even changing his name and
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: living an anonymous life, completely disconnected from all of it.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: And Dahmer also had people write to him. He received letters, money, orders,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: and other items from admirers of morbid curiosity, which is
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: so disgusting. And on the morning of November twenty eighth,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, Dahmer was assigned to a cleaning detail
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: in the prison jim bathrooms with two other inmates, Christopher
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: Scarver and Jesse Anderson, and the three men were left
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: unsupervised by guards for approximately twenty minutes, which was against
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: protocol for high risk inmates, which Dahmer was, and according
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: to Scarver's later account, one of the two, either Dahmer
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: or Anderson, poked him in the back while they were
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: leaning as if joking around, and Scarver, already harboring anger
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: towards Dahmer, confronted him with a newspaper clipping about his crimes,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: and Scarver would then retrieve a twenty inch five pounds
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: steel bar from the weight room and bludgeon Dahmer, crushing
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: his skull with multiple heavy blows, and then he attacked
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Anderson with the same bar, inflicting fatal head injuries. And
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: the guards would then return and find Dahmer barely alive
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: with severe head trauma, and he would be pronounced dead
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: about an hour later at a nearby hospital, and Anderson
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: would also die from his injuries.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: Two days later.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer was now dead, and the reaction to his
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: death came in different waves. Dahmer's mother, Joyce, was distraught
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: and questioned whether he had truly found peace with God
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: before he died, and his father, Lionel, was heartbroken, hoping
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: Jeff's conversion was genuine in that he could have aided
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: research or been a case study. But Dahmer's body was
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: cremated in September of nineteen ninety five and his ashes
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: were divided between his parents, and an actual legal dispute
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: arose over his brain, which was retained separately. Joyce wanted
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: its study for potential biological factors behind his behavior, while Lionel,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: his father, objected, but Jeffrey's will had requested that he
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: be cremated. The judge eventually ordered the brain destroyed at
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: Lionel's request, honoring what was said to be Jeffrey's own wishes,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: which I don't know how he has allowed to have
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: a say in what happens, but okay and Christopher Scarver
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: received two additional life sentences for the murder of Dahmer
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: and Anderson and remains incarcerated and for the families of
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: the victims, Dahmer's death brought no true closure. Most had
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: received no remains to bury, and some had endured media harassment,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: racist policing, and neglect from the justice system that discriminated
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: against homosexuals. And Milwaukee itself was forced to confront a
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: series of hard truths. How did the police miss multiple
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: opportunities to stop Dahmer, especially including a Conora's escape, And
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: why was Dahmer's behavior dismissed as a gay domestic dispute
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: rather than investigated with urgency, And how many lives could
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: have been saved if one officer had simply looked around. Thankfully,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: after Dahmer's incarceration, the Oxford apartments ultimately were demolished in
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: November of nineteen ninety two, as well because no one
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: wanted to live there anymore, obviously, but Dahmer's case just
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: sparked an explosion of coverage that continues to this day.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: A notable media inspired by the case include books like
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: A Father's Story, The Shrine of Jeffrey Dahmer, dozens of
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: documentaries like The Jeffrey Dahmer Files, Dahmer Mind of a Monster,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: Conversations with the Killer, the Jeffrey Dahmer Tapes. And there's
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: also feature films and TV dramatizations like Dahmer Raising, Jeffrey Dahmer,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: My Friend Dahmer, Dahmer Monster, The Jeffrey Dahmer Story. And
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: then Evan Peters, who played Dahmer and won Best Actor
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: in a limited anthology series, actually sparked backlash for re
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: traumatizing victims' families, and Dahmer just became a cultural phenomenon,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: a quiet man with glasses hiding something in the fridge.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: So many have rightfully asked why do we keep romanticizing
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: and hollywoodizing this story? And the question lingers, was Jeffrey
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: Dahmer born a monster or was he made into one?
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: And psychologists remained divided. Some point to early brain trauma
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: from the hernia surgery, extreme social isolation, alcoholism, family dysfunction,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: and repressed homosexuality that collided with intense necrophilic fantasies. And
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: others argued he showed signs of antisocial personality disorder, borderline
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: personality disorder, andal sadism, but they empathize that he remained lucid, calculated,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: and fully aware of right and wrong, and even Dahmer
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: himself offered no clear answer. In the end, Dahmer wasn't
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: a horror movie villain. He was worse because he was
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: real and for thirteen years he got away with murder
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: again and again and again and again. And a story
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: is not one of madness, but of missed warnings, systemic failure,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: and the terrifying truth that monsters don't always look like monsters.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they just look like normal people. And that is
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: the end.
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  Speaker 2: Of today's video.
• 1:20:57
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