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PJ Byrne | Delivering Happiness with Nick Turturro · Delivering Happiness with Nick Turturro

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  Speaker 1: Oh!
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, baby!
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  Speaker 1: PJ Byrne! You're incognito?
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  Speaker 2: You're too famous with the hood on? What are you doing, baby?
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  Speaker 2: I'm just low-key.
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  Speaker 1: No, I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, I got extra slices.
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  Speaker 1: You want one?
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  Speaker 2: I mean... Take some. I was gonna get one for
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  Speaker 2: a friend. He's running late.
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  Speaker 1: So just come on.
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  Speaker 2: What are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: Come on. What are we doing?
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  Speaker 2: What are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: Wait, we're cousins. Where's your glasses? We look alike.
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  Speaker 2: Come on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know we do.
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  Speaker 2: Santa, where are you from in Sicily?
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  Speaker 1: Siciliano.
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  Speaker 2: Siciliano, Siciliano too. Where's your family?
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  Speaker 1: Siciliano and Bares. Oh, Bares.
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  Speaker 2: My mother is from... What?
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  Speaker 1: Agrigento.
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  Speaker 2: Agrigento, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're Santa Croce, Barragusa. Barragusa? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Do you go back?
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  Speaker 1: I've been... Yeah, and it's been a long time.
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  Speaker 2: You look like you're... When I went back, I went
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  Speaker 2: back there. I gotta tell you this. Did you have
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  Speaker 2: this experience? I went back to Sicily with my wife
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  Speaker 2: and my sister and my mom and my dad. And
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  Speaker 2: we were driving from like, where did we land, like Catania,
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  Speaker 2: and we're driving, it's like two in the morning, and
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  Speaker 2: we got lost, so we call our cousin, he's like,
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  Speaker 2: don't move, where are you, I'll come get you. And
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he shows up in a scooter,
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  Speaker 2: and he takes off his helmet, and it looks like
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  Speaker 2: my grandfather at age 35.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, holy, it was like an out of body experience.
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  Speaker 2: How much he looked, we all look alike. And that
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  Speaker 2: little region, we're all like twins of each other.
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  Speaker 1: It's wild. In your region?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like that little Santa Croce area, like I
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  Speaker 2: look like all my cousins. It's crazy. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: the cousins that are 60, they look like they're 27.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. There's something in the
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  Speaker 2: water there. They're babies, but 60 is wild.
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  Speaker 1: Sicily is special. That's great. I mean, have you been
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  Speaker 1: to Palermo? I've not been to Palermo. I just stayed
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  Speaker 1: by my people.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm not saying go there. No, Palermo, it's
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  Speaker 1: not like... No, I hear people love it. It's a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful city.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: And they're warm. They're not like the Romans. The Romans
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  Speaker 1: are kind of cold.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I spent almost a month in Rome with my brother,
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  Speaker 1: and he was like... Nick, Nick, we're home.
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  Speaker 2: We're home.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, home where? No, we're Sicilian. Yeah, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: from Rome. I'm from Queens. Oh, my God. But everything
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  Speaker 1: you eat there is like, everything I ate was insane.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I got stomach issues.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: But when I was there, because you eat cleaner.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And the food is cleaner.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: My stomach was better there. 100%.
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  Speaker 2: Happens to me all the time. I was just in Ireland.
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  Speaker 2: You got stomach problems?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because we're Italian. I don't know what the hell
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  Speaker 1: went wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you got?
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  Speaker 1: Whatever, it's the food here.
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  Speaker 2: You got like IBS?
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  Speaker 1: IBS, SIBO, whatever you want to do. Do you watch
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  Speaker 1: your diet?
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  Speaker 2: I gotta watch all that stuff. Do you? Yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 2: Not enough.
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  Speaker 1: Not enough.
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  Speaker 2: You look... But when I eat there, I eat well. Also,
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  Speaker 2: when I drink the wine there, I don't get a hangover.
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  Speaker 2: It's heaven.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because, you know, it's like, it's made there.
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  Speaker 2: No, the cocaine's the same, though. The cocaine's absolutely the same.
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  Speaker 2: The cocaine?
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  Speaker 1: You don't do cocaine. Can you imagine if I did cocaine,
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  Speaker 1: how much I'd talk now?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, shit. What do you want?
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  Speaker 1: Take a pick, whatever you want. Get the spicy spring.
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  Speaker 1: Do the spicy spring.
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  Speaker 2: You know, this made us famous. I know that made
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  Speaker 2: you famous.
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  Speaker 1: A part of this. You know, a part of this.
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  Speaker 1: I love, dude, it's an honor to be here with you.
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  Speaker 2: No, listen, it's great.
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  Speaker 1: When did I see you? How many years ago? We
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  Speaker 1: were in that cult classic. First Sunday. First Sunday, man.
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  Speaker 1: You know that's a classic. It better be a classic. Dude,
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  Speaker 1: that was.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have fun in that movie? Dude, I loved
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  Speaker 2: that movie. I loved those guys. Tracy Morgan, I did
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  Speaker 2: another movie with him. I love Tracy Morgan like I
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  Speaker 2: love you. You're just beautiful humans. I was doing a
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  Speaker 2: movie with Tracy Morgan. This is wild.
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  Speaker 1: And Ed Helms.
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  Speaker 2: And I found out on set that this show I
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  Speaker 2: was on got canceled. this TV series regular, and I
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  Speaker 2: got three kids, I'm like, I just remember Tracy Morgan
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  Speaker 2: came over and hugged me.
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  Speaker 1: What was the show? I think that one was, I
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  Speaker 1: think that might.
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  Speaker 2: Have been Vinyl. It was Vinyl.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Vinyl.
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  Speaker 2: And I found out it got canceled.
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  Speaker 1: And Tracy just hugged me and he cried. He goes,
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  Speaker 1: You're good, baby. You're too good. You're going to keep working.
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  Speaker 1: But he knew what that meant.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Who did you play on vinyl?
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  Speaker 2: I played like a record executive. But yeah, that's another
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  Speaker 2: cast in a show that I love. It was like
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  Speaker 2: Ray Romano and Bobby Cannavale.
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  Speaker 1: We're all so close.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jack Quaid.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we even had him on our show, Delivered Happiness.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I know him a long time. He's the best, man.
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  Speaker 1: Bobby and Ray are the best.
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  Speaker 3: I was actually trying to make a movie years ago.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to still try to make it.
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  Speaker 2: What is it?
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  Speaker 1: Called Bless Me Father.
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  Speaker 2: It's a book.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, it's something that never got made.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought at one time, this guy Fat Richie
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  Speaker 3: gave me money out of a paper bag.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I was making the movie. Oh, come on.
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  Speaker 2: Come on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was actually auditioning people.
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  Speaker 2: No way.
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  Speaker 1: And Bobby had read the book. He hadn't even blown
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  Speaker 1: up yet. I didn't know who he was.
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  Speaker 2: He was the best.
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  Speaker 3: Came in, and he read for this, like, one of
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  Speaker 3: the roles, like Father Vinny or somebody. And he had
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  Speaker 3: read the book, and he was great.
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  Speaker 1: He was so good, dude. And I said to, it.
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  Speaker 3: Was one of the famous casting people from, you know
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  Speaker 3: the people from The Sopranos.
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  Speaker 1: What's their name?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Was it Ellen Lewis?
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  Speaker 1: Not Ellen Lewis.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's the other people that did the... You say
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  Speaker 3: their name, I'm bad with names. Anyway, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: They did Antelope.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Bobby's insane.
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  Speaker 1: But he was great.
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  Speaker 2: Bobby.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, when he's really goofy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: Sheila Jaffe.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Sheila Jaffe, yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. Sheila Jaffe's
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  Speaker 2: a legend.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and she was like, oh, this kid's going to
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  Speaker 3: be a great actor. I don't even know if he
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  Speaker 3: was on Third Watch yet. That was a show that was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I did a couple of episodes on Third Watch, you know.
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  Speaker 2: No, he's the guy that does... Bobby had a table
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  Speaker 2: read It was the craziest thing. He's extraordinary at table reading.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's great. I know you just got this last night.
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  Speaker 1: We did a table read. It's so funny you say that.
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  Speaker 1: I had a... I had a problem with my tooth.
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it was a doorman thing. I was a doorman
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  Speaker 3: for a lot of years. My brother wrote this script. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: we had a deal at HBO. It went nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: We had a deal at Fox. FX went nowhere. He
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't listen to me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: My brother.
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  Speaker 2: I'll make a call. I'll make a call. I'll call.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's not just I'll.
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  Speaker 2: Make a call.
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  Speaker 1: He wouldn't listen. He would not listen, PJ. You gotta
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  Speaker 1: listen to what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyways. Like the Yankees need to listen to what
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  Speaker 2: you're saying. They need to listen to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I might sound crazy, but I'm not crazy. I know.
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  Speaker 1: That's the fucking truth of what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 2: I'll make a call. All right.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so anyway, I talk the guy in at showtime.
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  Speaker 1: I go, let us read it for you. Right. Let
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  Speaker 1: us read it. Oh, that's a good idea. And so
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  Speaker 1: the guy goes, and people never do that.
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  Speaker 2: No, table reads are great.
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  Speaker 1: And so my brother goes, oh, great idea. And we'll
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  Speaker 1: get Bobby. He'll listen to you. Bobby will read the
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  Speaker 1: comic roll, this guy Harry and the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: At the time I had a dry socket.
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  Speaker 2: I hate it when you get a dry socket. I
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  Speaker 2: have no idea what the hell that means.
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  Speaker 1: You know anything about a dry socket? I have no clue.
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  Speaker 1: Fucking guy.
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  Speaker 2: You're funny.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, do you got a dry socket? If you ever
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  Speaker 1: get a dry socket, you think you're going to die.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of ways that can go.
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  Speaker 1: Your fucking head is hurting. You're in such pain. The
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  Speaker 1: guy was trying to pull a tooth.
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  Speaker 2: Out of my mouth.
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  Speaker 1: He couldn't get it out.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 1: So I developed. He got it out, but like for
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  Speaker 1: an hour, straggling. Are you dating a girl with a
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  Speaker 1: dry socket at the same time?
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  Speaker 2: No, no. That would have been a really hard time
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  Speaker 2: for you. That's a double dry socket. That's a double.
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  Speaker 1: Listen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Have those problems now.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say that. Anyway, it's a joke. I knew
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  Speaker 2: your wife. I did not say that.
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  Speaker 1: My wife's beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: God bless her. Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit of a dry socket.
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  Speaker 3: So dry socket is something that happens. It's like some
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  Speaker 3: kind of.
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  Speaker 2: You don't think I'm going to say dry socket in
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  Speaker 2: a movie or TV show from now on.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's a true term. It's very painful.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very interested in you.
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  Speaker 1: And so that day, my head was, I wasn't kind
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  Speaker 1: of on at the reading. Oh, no, so you didn't
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  Speaker 1: bring the noise. Oh, shit. I wasn't like, I was
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  Speaker 1: a little off that day. But Bobby was great.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 1: He was killing it.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, and then I got better as
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  Speaker 3: the reading went on. Usually I'm pretty good at readings.
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  Speaker 3: But there are some guys that are great at it.
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  Speaker 1: Bobby, Bobby, I know, got the script the night before.
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  Speaker 2: Probably.
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  Speaker 1: And I know how many hours he was putting it
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  Speaker 1: in the show. Yeah. He shows up, he destroyed it.
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  Speaker 2: And he's doing, and then when we're sitting on the day,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, That's the same, you were that amazing in
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  Speaker 2: the moment and you're doing it again right now.
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  Speaker 1: He just sees it. There's people that are like, I
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  Speaker 1: need to rehearse.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's actually funnier when he's just like reading something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a savant though. I think he's a savant.
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  Speaker 3: He's a great guy, he's a sweet guy, but you
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  Speaker 3: give him one of these goofy, funny guys.
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  Speaker 2: No, let him go. He's so funny, dude.
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  Speaker 3: He kills it when he's, when there are certain things
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  Speaker 3: that he does that we love, like win-win.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen win-win? No, but I love you. You
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen win-win?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch it now.
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  Speaker 1: It's called Win-Win, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, you gotta watch that. I'm watching it now.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's great. Him and Paul Giamatti.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. He's great.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean, those two together, I didn't even realize that. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: my God, but this movie is so good. There's no
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  Speaker 1: dry socket in that, dude. There's no dry socket.
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  Speaker 2: 0.0.
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  Speaker 3: He's freaking hilarious in this movie as this guy's friend.
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  Speaker 1: How have I not seen that fucking movie? Yeah, it's
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: about a kid. He wrestles and he runs into Paul Giamatti. Oh,
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: he's a wrestler. I know exactly what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: I did not see that movie.
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  Speaker 2: That's insane.
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  Speaker 1: The guy's a good filmmaker. What's his name? I did
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  Speaker 1: not see that film.
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  Speaker 2: Bobby did his first movie with him, with Peter Dinklage. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It was a movie, independent and station agent. So Bobby
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  Speaker 3: had done that with the, who was the filmmaker?
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  Speaker 1: He's really good. John just worked with him.
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  Speaker 2: No, no. McCarthy.
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy.
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  Speaker 2: Tom. Tom. Tom McAfee. Tom went to Boston College.
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  Speaker 1: Did he?
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  Speaker 2: That's where I went to BC.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He's a lovely man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a fan of a lot of his work. He's
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  Speaker 1: the bomb.
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  Speaker 2: He's great.
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  Speaker 1: My brother has just worked with him. He's a tough guy.
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  Speaker 2: He won an Oscar.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, like some of his movies. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Station Agent, which was great.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, win-win, I love. Well, the thing about the
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  Speaker 2: Boston Globe. What's the other thing you did? About the
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  Speaker 2: Boston Globe. Spotlight. Spotlight. Yeah, it's not one of my favorites.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't hear that one of an Oscar.
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  Speaker 1: But a win-win, I love. I don't care about the Oscars.
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  Speaker 2: Oscar.
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  Speaker 1: To me, sometimes, you know, that's not as, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that gives you the acclaim, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: always mean.
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  Speaker 2: But hopefully it can give them more money to keep
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  Speaker 2: making art. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, because John just did a, I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: it's a political thing, whatever they did. They did some
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  Speaker 3: movie with Giamatti and him and a whole bunch of people.
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  Speaker 3: So they did a play now. I knew they would
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  Speaker 3: hit it off, Giamatti and my brother.
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  Speaker 2: I worship you, though. Like, you and your brother, but
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  Speaker 2: you are such one of the greatest character actors, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. You're just a stud, man. Look at you, man.
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  Speaker 2: No, in your family. Look at your career.
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  Speaker 1: You've been doing it for years, and you're everywhere. You're
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  Speaker 1: in everything.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, do people, do they notice you? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you're like one of these guys. You go kind of unassuming.
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  Speaker 2: In life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There's certain things. It depends where I am, what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes in my voice, because I did a cartoon.
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  Speaker 1: Like from Wall Street?
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  Speaker 2: A lot.
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  Speaker 1: Come on. How good are you in Wall Street? You're
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  Speaker 1: terrific in that.
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  Speaker 2: I did that for you.
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  Speaker 1: I did that for you.
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  Speaker 2: For me? I'm not talented. I just have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of kids. That's the reality. There's too many kids. I
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: got to pay for their lives.
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  Speaker 1: I remember when I was talking to you, hanging out
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  Speaker 1: with you, and I'm like, this guy's everywhere. I wish
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  Speaker 1: I had his career. He's everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: He's here. He's there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, did you audition for that?
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  Speaker 2: For what?
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  Speaker 1: Wall Street.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Who'd you audition for? So that audition, I.
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  Speaker 2: Went to college and I got a finance degree and
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  Speaker 2: I almost went to Wall Street to work on Wall Street.
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  Speaker 1: But there was an amazing teacher at- Where'd you go
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  Speaker 1: to college? Boston College.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. But there was an amazing teacher there that, I
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  Speaker 2: know it's a long way around how I randomly auditioned
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  Speaker 2: for a play.
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: I went with a buddy, I wanted to go drink.
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: So you never acted?
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: No, no. I went with a buddy, like sophomore year,
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: because I wanted him to come drink with me.
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: He goes, I'm going to audition for a play.
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, I'll come audition with you if
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: you come drink with me.
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, let's go.
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: He's the kid that went to Loyola.
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: He's from out here. But I live with dudes. They're
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: like hockey players. They're guys.
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: But he was the one guy, I'm going to audition
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: for a play. I was like, what are you talking about? Anyway,
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: long story short, I get the part and he does it.
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: What was the play?
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: I forget.
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: I played like a butcher. I don't know why I
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: can never remember. But why did you audition?
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: I just randomly auditioned. They're like, here's the scene, whatever.
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, they're like, come up with a monologue. So
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: I made up a monologue, I was improvising, and they're like,
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: you're the guy, let's go.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: This is Boston College? This is a Boston College. You
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: never acted?
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: No. And then, and then so the- You were a
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: finance major? Finance. And then the, one of the head
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: of the acting program sees it, because that was like
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: a senior thesis or something, and he's like, come audition
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: for the main stage show we're doing.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: It was Tartuffe by Moliere.
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: And for whatever reason, iambic pentameter made sense to me.
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is wild. And he was doing
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: a modernized version of it. And it just went in easy.
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: I heard timing, and it just felt right. Then my
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: roommates saw that. They loved it. They're like, you shouldn't
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: really do this. And then my family was in politics
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: in New Jersey. So the plan was like, you're going
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: to go to Wall Street. You're going to go to
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: get your MBA after that. Then you'll go venture capital.
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: And then maybe you'll be the senator from New Jersey.
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: Who knows?
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: It was sort of predetermined for me. I didn't really know.
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: I was like, what do I want to do? But
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: so my senior year, you get courted by the banks.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: They come on to like, you try to get your job.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: I got a good job on Wall Street, but this teacher,
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: this is the power of teachers, God bless you. He's like,
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: hey man, I think you should turn down that job
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: on Wall Street and go to grad school to learn
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: how to be a proper actor. And I'm like, I
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: think you should stop drinking Jack Daniels, dude. You're insane.
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: So wait a minute. How many things did you do
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: in college?
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: Well, then I double majored because I figured, you know,
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: if I double majored in finance, if I double majored
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: finance and theater, that would help my public speaking. So
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: I did a couple other plays. You know, did double
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: major in finance and theater. But then the super moment
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: happens when two weeks later after that, he's like, go
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: to Graskin.
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, my friends would kill for this job.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: I can't do that. How much was the job? A
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: lot of money?
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: It was great. It was just you're on the track
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: to be an investment banker. It was like the golden job.
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: It's like the golden ticket job. Wow.
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: So, but this is the beautiful moment. He goes, come
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: in my office.
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: He's got three Manila folders in front of him. I
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: remember this like it's yesterday. It's crazy. He's like, look,
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: these are the three best schools in the country, I think,
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: to get your master's in acting. They only take 10 kids.
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: I filled out your applications for you. What was it?
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: NYU, Yale School of Drama?
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: Exactly. And where I went, the theater school at DePaul.
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: The theater school of DePaul? Yeah, we just became 100
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: years old. Like John C. Reilly went there and Carl
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: Molden in Chicago.
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that one.
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: So that's another great grad school. It's incredible.
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: Dude, it's amazing.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: Not easy to get in either. No, any one of
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: these schools only took 10 kids.
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: Did you apply to all three?
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: I did all three. I did all three.
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: I remember it vividly. Yale, they're like.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: Come back in a year. This is great. That was like,
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: we want you.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: You have to have a bigger. There's nothing.
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: I don't see anything here.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: I was like, I just did a couple of plays
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: at BC. They're like, we got to come back in
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: one year and audition. Go to New York, do a.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: Couple of plays and then come back. We want to see.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: And then come. Exactly.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: NYU. So I did DePaul first and that audition went great.
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: And then NYU.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: What'd they say? No, the NYU. This is the one
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: that screwed me up because I did Yale.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: I got that beautiful.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: They're like, come back.
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my God. And then DePaul was confident
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: and got in. And then NYU, you'll realize this. And
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: this is to that, nothing against them. It was just,
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: I forget this guy's name, and I started, and it
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: was a comedy, and he just put his head down.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: You know, because he's just listening. But I didn't know.
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this guy doesn't give a shit.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: So that audition just went off the rails.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: It was so bad.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: I was in my head.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: I didn't really know what to do. I didn't know
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: how to audition yet at all, really. But that was
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: a monster, monster lesson. But thank God I went to
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: DePaul because.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: That sort of started everything. So you didn't get accepted there?
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: I did not get accepted there. But I went to
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: the theater school, and thank God I did that. Three years?
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: Three years, and I know my mom wanted to kill
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: that teacher. She's like, three years, you're going to go
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: to school three years?
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: You don't come out a lawyer? What are you doing?
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was crazy.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: Your family thought you were crazy?
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my dad was kind of cool about it. My
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: mom was like, you're absolutely insane. You're absolutely insane. But
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: that's when I graduated DePaul, though. Immediately, as much as
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: I wanted to do theater, I was like, I need
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: to go make money. And I got an agent. immediately
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: commercialize you. And that's when I did like an ungodly
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: amount of commercials. I did like 100 national commercials. So
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: you get out of school. And those were the days
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: where you actually made money. How old are you, 25, 26? Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: But I made money doing commercials, thank God. But simultaneously,
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: I wanted to learn the business. So this is why
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: I always thank Chris O'Donnell, because Chris O'Donnell was Robin.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: Remember Batman and Robin at the time? Yeah. He had
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: a deal at Warner Brothers. I was doing commercials, but
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: I would call my friends on the phone.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you doing today?
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: They're like, I don't know. I worked out. I'm like,
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: did you read a book? Did anyone read a book?
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: I thought my brain was like atropying. So I'm like,
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: let me just go learn the business side of it.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: I went over there.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, look. I just want to be an
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: intern and just be a fly on the wall making money.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Where were you working? It was called George Street Pictures
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: where Chris had a deal at Warner Brothers at the time.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: And my sister and his sister were best friends. So
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: he's like, here, read the script, do coverage on it.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Coverage is like, you know, you let people know what
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: your thoughts are on the script.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Right, right. So I do coverage and they're like, this
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: is genius.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: And it's only genius because I was just in grad
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: school writing papers all the time, you know, a character
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: arc and structure. And they're like, be our story editor.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, no, I came... I came to
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: be an actor. They're like, come and go as you please,
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: which was amazing. So I would walk on the water
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: boat's lot. There's George Clooney's building. There's Clint Eastwood's building.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: I would walk by the West Wing. What year is this?
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: This has got to be like 2001, 2002.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Wow. That time. But I remember going, I'm never going
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: to walk on the ER set unless I'm invited. And
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: then I booked ER. And I'm like, I'm never going
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: to walk on the West Wing set unless I'm invited.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: And then I booked West Wing.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Did you have an agent? I had an agent.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: You got it after DePaul?
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it after DePaul.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Was it a legit agent, a commercial agent? It was
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: a commercial agent, and then it was like a manager.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: And then as things started happening, it took off. And
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: that was it. And then I worked for him for
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: a while, and every time I tried to quit, they're like,
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: you're a vice president now. I'm like, ah!
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: So how long was your job there?
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: I did it.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: I did that for like four, maybe four years. But
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: when I finished. But in between you're doing commercials.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: I'm doing commercials and little small TV jobs and little movies.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: But then things I'm like.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: So you got your SAG card, right?
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: I got it in 99.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: I literally got my SAG card like a month after
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: I came to L.A., which was amazing. Wow. But I
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: owe him everything because the moment I finished with Chris,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: I didn't have to read scripts for him.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: How many guest spots you did?
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Did a lot?
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: A lot, a lot, yeah. Did you do an NYPD Blue?
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: No.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Did you have an audition for it? But that was
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: in New York, no?
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: No, LA. I never did that, no. I did not
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: do that. Yeah. I did a lot of like NCIS LA.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: I do that side of stuff. Like The Mentalist, all
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: those shows all the time. Yeah, so you did a
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: lot of that. West Wing Mentalist, ER.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: All that stuff, yeah. What'd you play, like the lawyers,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: the doctors? I was a lawyer, or a murderer, or
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: a killer, or some crazy patient.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Like a crazy nerve killer? I haven't even thought about those, yes,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: for a while. A lot of lawyers though, too.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: It's funny. But that's how we know it took the,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Because I was a lawyer in First Sunday with you.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: That's right. Yes. You were an attorney. Yes.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: And that was what year?
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: That was 2007. Well, we shot in 2007. I think
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: it came out like 2008. Something like that. That was
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: a fun set.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: But Cat Williams, I'll never forget him. Oh, my God.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: That's when I learned, I'm like, oh, he's the greatest
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: improviser I've ever seen, maybe in my life. Yeah. Whether
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: he was armed or not, things were happening that regardless
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: if you're armed, you know, if you're armed with jokes,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: he was... My brain went, oh, you have to raise
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: your game now. You really got to like... Yeah, I mean...
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: You got to bring the noise, dude. That's... He taught
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: me a lot just by him. I was like, okay,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: you need to bring nuclear weapons.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Remember he had.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Like all kinds of... He had all kinds of cars
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: and toys. Like one time he was driving some really
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: fancy car and I said... I said to him, that's
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: a nice car or some shit like that.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: And he goes, come on, man.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Take it. Take it. Drive it.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: And I was like, nah, you want me to drive it?
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I think I refused. I said, nah, nah. I said,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: it's all right. I don't want you. He goes, nah,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: take it for a ride, man. I was like, no,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: that's OK.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: No, he lives life, dude.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: He lives.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: His brain just flows. And then Tracy Morgan.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Tracy, who I knew for the longest shot.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I love that man.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: He's out of control, funny.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I love that man.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just hilarious. Dude, he's the best. He's pure part, too.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: That's why I love him. That's why I love working
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: with people who are pure part.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Those are the best.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I always say work with friends. It's the best
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: way to go to work. I ran into the director,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: a good friend. I love him.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: He's the best, man.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: That was a beautiful experience, man. He's a beautiful guy. Yeah.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: That's because of course it was because he's a beautiful guy.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: And he came up to me and he had like
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: a big beard now.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Does he really?
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I did a reading for him. Another movie
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: he's trying to get made. Okay.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: My son came to the reading and.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: One of the guys from First Sunday was in it too.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Good character. What's his name? The guy from, was in
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: that reading.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Great character actor.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Older guy. He was like the judge. What's his name?
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: He's been around forever. Not Clifton. He was, what's his name?
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I know exactly what you're talking about.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Oh my God, he's been in like all kinds of things.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: He's got a great voice. He was like the judge
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: in First Sunday. I can't think of his name.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Don't pretend like we know him, this man. I love him.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: We know him.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I know. He's going to kill me right now. I'm
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: not good on the, unless it's baseball. We're the same way.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, you know, it's like really weird, but.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: It's also when you have kids now, too.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: And then their parents, and then their kids' friends. Fucking
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: brain is like burnt out. Yeah, but we also meet
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: like 3,000 people a year. No, but it's like I
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: can't remember.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I'll make a call.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I'll introduce people that I know, and I don't know
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: their name.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Is that dry? What is the thing?
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Dry thing?
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: What was it again?
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Dry socket. Is that just a dry socket? Maybe that's
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: what the real problem is.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I might use that. Yeah, that's what the real problem is. Yeah,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: let's talk about Wolf of Wall Street.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: You know, we love that movie. My son's obsessed with it.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: It. I love you. We love Nicky Kosko. Oh my God,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Nicky Kosko. That's a real guy, right? No, he's an
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: amalgamation of all these people. Oh, it is.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Nicky Koskoff is, one of the producers' name was Emma Koskoff.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Okay. Her last name is Koskoff, so that's why it
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: became Nicky Koskoff. What was it?
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I became Nikki Koskoff. Okay. But I took her last name.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Nikki Koskoff.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Is that the name?
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Nikki Koskoff was my character's name, which is great.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: And that's why I feel always so connected to Emma.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: As a producer. She's just so great.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Did you have a hard time keeping a straight face sometimes?
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: All the time.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: With the rug and everything?
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: All the time.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Martin Scorsese is obviously the legendary.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: He wants you to go play. He wants you to win.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: He makes you feel like you're the guy that's going
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: to go catch the Super Bowl touchdown. I mean, those
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: are the great directors, I feel like. I work well
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: with guys like that. They're like, take the handcuffs off, PJ.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: And let them go.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Right. And they're just, you know, these legendary directors who
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: don't worry about the studio or anybody.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: This is their idea.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: This is their movie.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: They trust you with their vision.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Right. To go. Give me an example. Well, I mean,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: the thing is, I think my job and our job
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: as an actor is when we're in our roles, we
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: should pass the writer and the director as our knowledge
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: of that part. And as I prepare, I do everything
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I learned in grad school. My super objective, my moments,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: like all the fundamentals of like, making each word have
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: its thing, like am I slapping you with this line,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: am I massaging you? Just the fundamentals when you show
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: up to do a job. But then my brain goes
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: and sees opportunities to make the moment bigger. It's not
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: necessarily making a joke, just making it pop, but I
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: want to make sure it's not trite. I want to
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: ideally make it zeitgeisty so that you see it and
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: it's so memorable. Did you guys get to rehearse in
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: that movie? Yeah, he would let us rehearse, but in
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: those rehearsals we would riff and improvise.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you have a lot of group scenes, right?
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: It's the best thing, but everyone was really good about
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: listening and passing the ball, because I always feel like
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: all ships rise with the tide, and we were really
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: good about playing with each other.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Everybody wanted to, there was nobody trying to like, you know,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: top each other.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: No, but Marty likes it messy, because sometimes when we're
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: doing the script and everyone's waiting for their line, he's like,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: that's too neat, like, make it messy, messy, and that's
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: when I'm like, let's go. I'm like, yeah, I love messy.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: To me, like, talk over each other. We're talking over
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: each other in this whole thing because we're Italian. Yeah.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: We don't know how to shut up and have space.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: But we're hearing and playing and we're conscious. I like
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: the fucking overlapping, right? It's beautiful. You get it. Yes.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: And for the audition, I think he knew because the
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: audition for all the guys that were in, we had
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: to do the monologue.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Which monologue?
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Pitching the stock monologue.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So when I saw that, I was like, I'm
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: not going to say this. I'm going to make my
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: own monologue up. And so I wrote my own monologue.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: You wrote it?
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I wrote my own monologue where I call. I'm looking
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: for like a Mr. Peterson.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: And this woman answers, he's older, and she goes, he
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: recently passed away. And I start humping the desk. I'm like, yes,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: on the other side of the call, because I know
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: this is an opportunity to get money from a vulnerable woman.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I have it somewhere, I feel like, I like to
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: send it to you, I don't know, but, yeah, no,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I literally go, I go, I literally go, I go,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no, when did he pass? And I'm like,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: oh no, so I find out when he passes, and
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: then I go, he called us, I don't know, about
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: a month and a half before that, and like, wait
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: a second, I'm pulling it up right here, I'm making
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: this all up, how, you got your grandkids, how old
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: are they again, what are their names? She's like, Tommy
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: and Tina, they talked about it, I'm like, he did,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: he did, Tommy and Tina, yeah, here's their file right here,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: oh my God, I'm so sorry, he was lost. She's like,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: what were you talking about? Well, he wanted to pay
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: for their college education.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: No, he did not.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: So by the end of the call, I get like
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: $ 100, 000 out of her to think she's paying for their
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: kids at college education. And I slam the desk and
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I go, whoa, you know, that whole Wall Street-y type thing.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: And that's what sort of got me.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Got you in the pot?
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Got me in the pot, exactly.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Is the monologue the one where you go, hi, my
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: name is Nikki Koss.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I'm senior vice president at Stratton Oakmont.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's the one.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I can put you in here at 6 and take
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: you out at 32. 100%. That's the one.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: That's the one. Was that written?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Well, some of those specifics they like are written, but
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: all of that is playful.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Because Marty had found out that I have a finance degree.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: So my first rehearsal is with Leo and Marty and me,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this is the craziest moment of my life.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I'm like, first of all, I'm freaking out because it's
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Marta Scorsese. Then there's Leo there, and they're asking me
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: questions about finance. I'm like, oh my God, this is nuts.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Thank God I knew when I was ready for all
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: of it, I came so prepared. Just like, you know,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: what is really happening in this moment? Like, how are
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: they getting themselves out of this position? How are they
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: inflating the stock? Like, really, what is going on in
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: this moment?
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Did you know how to answer it?
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I am 100%. I knew, I was so ready.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: For that thing, I came to arm with jokes because
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: of my finance background.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I worked for a guy, I interned one summer also,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: that a guy that sold triple A rated.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: So look at that. Going to business school. Yes.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Actually fucking.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: No, it came back around.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Helped you. I remember what I said. I remember between
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: freshman and sophomore year, I worked for a guy named
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Mike Tagatak. I think he has like a billion dollars
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: of assets on him right now. But he goes. But
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: it was something like, hi, this is PJ Vernon calling
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: from Mike Tagetack. He's the vice president here at Salmon
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Smith Barney.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: How you doing today?
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: But he sold triple A rated bonds, meaning like that's
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: like the safest bond you can ever get into. Right.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: So that but you learned how to like listen to people.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: And I remember he liked me. I was like, I
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: don't think I want to do this because it felt
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: more like not there's anything wrong with it. But that
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: didn't feel like I was using my mind to make
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: decisions about where to invest. So there's a little pick
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: in your brain. They would pick my brain. But yeah,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: it was great. It was magical. It was really... But
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: that experience was just... All of us got along, and
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: you got... Sometimes Leo likes to stay in character, but
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I remember he said, like, I would lose my mind
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: if I stayed in character for this whole part. So
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: we really got to see the beauty of Leo and, like,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: bro it out. And I still say, like... Leo's like
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: the most charming guy. I think he's one of the
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: funniest storytellers I've ever met in my life.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Is he a storyteller?
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's just a legend about owning a room and
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: sharing a story. But then you look at him like, oh,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: you are Clark Gable.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: You are the guy of our time. You are the
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: man of our moment. Right. And he's just a good dude.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: He's a good dude?
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he was producing.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: He wanted to make sure that we were all taken
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: care of. But Jon Bernthal lives across the hall from me.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Kenny Choi is another dear friend.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Brian Sackle. All those guys were all very still, really close.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Kenny Choi was very funny. Kenny Choi's the best, dude.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: He's the best. He's another really close guy.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: When he goes, when he goes, uh, can I just
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: finish the sandwich?
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Dude, it's done.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: It's just fucking great. He's a pro.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, all pros. Who's the other guy with the
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: blonde hair?
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: He's funny too. What's his name?
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Alden.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: What's his name?
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Alden. Alden.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. You and Nikki. Ethan Supley though too
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: is in it. Ethan Supley is another insane actor. Who
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: does he play?
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: He plays another one of the salesmen, one of our buddies.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: He's like that big dude who was like the heavy with, uh, Kenny.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Just a stud.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Just a great cast. I missed that one.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: That was a great one.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: How about those scenes? There's this testosterone out of control.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Look, you're still shooting. It's fake. Even Leo goes, I
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: don't think we'll ever have more fun making a movie
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: ever again.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: It was magic. Jonah Hill?
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Jonah's the best. It was great. We just had a
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: great time, man. I remember there was a writer that said,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: are you willing to get nude? do drugs and cocaine.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: And I just remember, God bless my wife, I'm like, wow,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: look at this thing I get new. She goes, if
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Marty Scorsese calls you to be in his movie, you
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: do cocaine and you get naked on camera.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: It's fake, but you do whatever the hell he wants.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, honey, yes, absolutely. How was the stuff
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: with the women? What was that like?
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: It's just, you know, there's nothing.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: It's creepy, actually. It's a little like, hi, how are you?
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: You don't have any clothes on.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: So it's such an odd thing. But then when you
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: say action, you're like, let's go. But I mean, but
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: those are even things like I wanted to make special.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, I went to the museum, because I was like,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: what am I going to wear? How am I going
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: to be a.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Part of this scene that's different?
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Because I threw bachelor parties for buddies, but mine are
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: like clean and PG, where I'm like, We had a
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: llama come and like Darth Vader shows up. But there's
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: nothing dirty or like sinister or sexual about it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: But just like we're kooking.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I put him in a banana hammock to walk around
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: a party, his party the whole time. And I'm like,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: but what would these guys do? So that's why I
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: went to the Museum of Sex. I'm just running.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I need ideas.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: And they were selling, remember Pez candies that you can
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: eat the candy was like a bracelet? They made an
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: underwear version. And I'm like, I want to wear that.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: That's what I want to wear on my junk. And
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget going to the costume designer who's like
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: this British legend who's won Oscars. And I'm like, I
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: thought I better wear this. And she's looking at you like,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: you want to wear this in my film? But then
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I explain the story and why it would be funny.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: And she's like, you can.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: And that was the whole, you want to wear this?
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: And then she goes, you can.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget that.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: You can.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: But if you see it again, I'm wearing like. But
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: the sad thing is there's nothing behind it. So everyone
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: behind me is seeing my butt. My butt hole.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, really? Yes. It was almost like a G-string.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: The brown star, 100%. It's just covering the front trunk.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: They had to put two on to sort of cover everything,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: but yeah, it's crazy.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: It was fun, though.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: How many times have you watched that movie?
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Actually, not a lot.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I don't do repeats as much as you think I would. No,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying you do.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Maybe I watch it, yeah, I definitely watch it like,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: A couple of times? Yeah, definitely like five times for sure.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Every time I go back, it takes you back to
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: that time, the memory of those guys. This guy was
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: obsessed with it.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: He told my brother, I saw it nine times. And
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: my brother got mad. He goes, what?
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Stop. Why'd he get mad?
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Because he goes, why would you watch that movie? Not
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: that he hated the movie. He doesn't like the subject matter.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Right, of course.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: They're not good guys. No, the guy's not a good guy.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: They're not good guys. He's not a good guy.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: The movie's three hours long.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: And you saw it five times in theaters, which means
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: you saw it 12 hours of your life.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Of that movie. Oh, my God.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Of a bad guy. Oh, stop.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: And I was 15.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I was like, and?
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: And he goes, why would you do that? I was like,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: because it was a fun movie. He's like, no. No.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: You wasted. I'll give you a list of movies. Oh,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: my God. Oh, well, that's good. He didn't give me
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: the list, but still, he was pissed.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Well, does he have a cell phone?
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's kind of a dinosaur.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: No, he's an artist. He's an artist. He's a true artist.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I know. That's good. That's okay.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I think that's an artistic film. I'm a man of
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the people.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: He's a man of the artist.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Listen, I'll say this.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: For Martin Scorsese films and films period, that's probably the
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: most watchable three-hour movie.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: You could put on it any time, and you could
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: pick it up anywhere, and it does not feel like
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: three hours.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love you.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I love you. It's also telling you a lesson. Like, hey, man,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: if somebody calls on the phone like that asking for
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: money you hang up the phone I mean we can't
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: pound that in your head enough, right? They might be
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: look what they're doing with the money you just.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I think what they did with that movie is there
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: other movies made about that whole you know that whole
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: World yeah, and but in that movie they took it
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: and They took it to an extreme. But really that's why,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and they went all the way with it. Because you've
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: seen other examples of that movie, but not like, this
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: was like on steroids.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: But that's how I want to work in everything. Every
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: scene I want more and more. Marty's also like, more problems, more.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Dilemmas, whatever.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Everything I've been in, what more pathos and ethos.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Can we bring to raise the stakes? Was it a
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: long shoot?
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: It was like six months in New York City. It
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: was great.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Six months? Yeah. You were there for six months?
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I loved it. I didn't have kids yet. I was, like,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: living in New York with my guys. My wife would
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: come visit.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: It was, like, it was the best. Fucking great. It
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: was the best. I mean, and now you're in a
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: big upcoming movie called I Play Rocky, which is also,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: you know, one of my favorite, like, movies of all time.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I love you. Rocky. Dude.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: And, I mean, I truly was obsessed with Rocky.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I think I saw it, and I'm not bullshitting you,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I think I saw it when it came out 13 times.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Did your brother yell at you?
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. Because he yelled at your son for
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: watching Wolf of Wall Street nine times.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: No, because it was a beautiful movie. And it's a
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: beautiful movie.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: It's so beautiful.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: It's almost, if you watch the movie, it's almost a
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: perfect movie.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I agree with you.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, it won the Oscar.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like, you know, I had seen him,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: and my brother goes, you've got to go see this movie.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Fucking horn. You've got to go see this movie. Rocky,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: it's like an old-fashioned movie. This guy, Sylvester Stallone.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: I remember picking up the Newsday, because I lived in
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: the Queens. I used to watch News, Post, whatever, Newsday.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: And I saw his face on the Newsday, and I go,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: wait a minute. I know this guy. The reason I
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: knew him, I'll tell you why. Because he made this
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: great indie that I love, that I saw just like
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: on a double feature. It was just by accident. He's
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: great in this movie, too.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: He's a great actor.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a really good actor. But there's not a
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: false moment, and that movie was called The Lords of Flatbush. Oh, yeah.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: He's great in it. Yeah.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: In fact, Henry Winkler... Exactly.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Credits him.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: For the Fonz, he was inspired by his character in
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: The Lords of Flatbush.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: So anybody who hasn't seen The Lords of Flatbush.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Incredible.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Great movie.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Adam Sandler loves it. I mean, that's a movie I
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: would love to be in. It's a wild little cast.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: We talk about it in the movie.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: You guys talk about it? We talk about it in
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: the movie because the head of the studio has to go, well,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: what has he been in?
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: And they have to watch The Lords of Flatbush.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: And he's great in it. No, but they think it's
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: the other guys, the lead. They're like, who am I watching?
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: What movie did I just watch? I didn't even look
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: at him. The handsome guy? Yeah. Yeah. He's like, that
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: guy doesn't even look like a boxer.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, well, you weren't supposed to look at
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Perry King.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: You were supposed to look at the other guy. Yeah.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: And like, who is that? We're giving him this movie?
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: No way. Get him out of here.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: So that, now that script, who wrote this script?
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I play Rocky. It's this guy by the name of
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Peter Gamble. But this is interesting, how you say that's
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: a beautiful movie. What's wild and Peter.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Farley says it's a beautiful movie. And I mean that.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I mean that, like, I mean that.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Like, there are great, great movies. I mean, you know, there's,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: in the 70s, there are classics.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: There's The Godfather.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: There's... Taxi Driver. There's all kinds of classics.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: And it was up against broadcast news and all these
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: amazing movies at the time.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: But there's just something, there's something so pure about it.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: I don't, like, you knew watching him in that movie,
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: even though he's had an incredible career, and he is
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: a good actor, but you knew, like, the vulnerability, the
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: hunger of his face.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: He was handsome, but he was just so, like.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: You felt it on him and in him. It was pure.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Even if you watch it now, I don't care how
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: many times I've seen it.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: There's not a... There's not a false moment in the movie. Dude,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: that's my favorite thing you can say about that.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: And it's funny.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: And it's charming.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Hard and humor.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Fucking right there. And it's romantic. I say hello to
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: people left and right. Hello, how you doing?
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: No one said hi to me. We don't care about
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: that guy.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: How about PJ Pern here?
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I'm okay.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Somebody's going to say hello to my friend.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Nobody. The meter did. How you doing?
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Because they're like, I need another dollar. I need another
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: dollar on the meter. But you know what I'm saying. Here,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: this is what I think you'll appreciate too. So when
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: you hear about, what did you hear about the script?
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Was that an audition too? I'll tell you the whole story.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Tell me the story. So two things.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Just because you love the movie, I think you'll appreciate
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: this film. Because the true story, you know how they
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: say truth is stranger than fiction? Yeah.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I think in this story in.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Particular, it's like greatness is stranger than fiction too. And
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I mean that by, and Peter will tell you the
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: same thing, because I think this is how he helped
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: sell the movie. Rocky actually has a job, right? Even
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: though he's heavy, he's a guy in the hood, he
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: technically has a job. And then he's going to go
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: through that movie, and he doesn't win, which is kind
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: of the theme of it. It's the process of going
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: through and not winning, but that's sort of the theme
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: of the movie, and who you follow, and it's him
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: and her, and that's the beauty of Rocky.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: But in the reality, in.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: The true story, Sylvester Stallone literally has no money in
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: his bank account. He finds out his wife is pregnant.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, crap. He's trying to get dog food
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: for his dog. And the process is like, I can't
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: afford to keep this dog. And in that moment, he
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: sells his dog for $ 40, right? Simultaneously, what's happening is
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Erwin Winkler, who I play along with my producing partner,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Bob Chardoff, is played by Toby Cowboy. He's amazing. We
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: want to buy the script, right? We want to buy
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: it from him. So this man has no money, just
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: sold his dog for $ 40, and his wife is pregnant.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: and we ultimately, as we keep going through, offering more
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: and more and more and more money.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: For the script.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: For the script, and for him not to star in it.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: He's like, I wanna play this guy. How much was
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: they actually worth? So let's put it in today's numbers,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: and this is to everybody.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, and that's a lot of money back then.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: So imagine you're at home, your wife's pregnant, you got
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: no money in your bank account, and you just sold
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: your dog for 40 bucks, and someone goes, here's 2.2
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: million dollars Just be the writer and walk.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Away from starting this movie. They didn't start at 2.2. No, no, no.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: It started at like 20 and starts going up. But
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: if you do the math today, because it ends at
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: like 360.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Or 390 or whatever. And what is that today? It's
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: like $ 2.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: 2 million.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: But back then, they went up to 300 and what?
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: 360,000. Which was an enormous amount. Yeah, so imagine.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. To put you in the mind
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: of today. I get it.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: You got no money.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Here's 2.2. Walk away.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: And you're like, no.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Do you have the cojones? To do that?
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's an extraordinary thing that Sylvester Stallone does.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: So he says no. We kind of fall in love
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: with the idea that he wants to do this. Because
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: he wrote it for himself.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: He wrote it for himself.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: But he'll say it too.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Sylvester will say it's like, I knew if I gave
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: this away, I would hate myself and I just couldn't
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: live with myself.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: He's too smart of a guy. And he's brilliant.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: He's no dummy.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: No, he is no dummy.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: And the thing is, he wrote it for himself even
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: though he needed the money. The fact that they wanted it,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: he had leverage. Listen, when you say no... The more
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: you say no.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: There's something to that. You know, like you're an actor.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: I'm an actor.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: When we want a part so bad, we're desperate.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: A lot of times. And not all the time, but
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of times you're like, I got to say yes.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: I got to say yes.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I got to say yes. You don't want to say no.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: You don't have the courage to say no. I know.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: And when you say no, that empowers you.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I know. It's true.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: You know, you're willing to go, no.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: You have to do that sometimes.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: I know, but I'm like, it takes integrity. It's incredible.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: It takes guts. It takes balls because they might say, okay, kid,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: I'm going to move on. They're like, good, move on.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Move on to what? Exactly.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: And I'm like saying, but you know what? They wanted
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: to make that fucking move.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: But he could have moved on with $ 2. 2 million in
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: his pocket. No, it was 360.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: You keep saying 2.2. Well, I'm doing modern day so
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: people understand. Forget fucking modern day. But I'm just saying.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of money. I know. 360 back then.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Is an ungodly amount of money. Is a lot, a
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: lot of fucking money.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, houses were like 40 grand, dude.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: 40 grand is a lot.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Listen, if you watch an old great movie called The Gambler. Yeah.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: It's a great movie, James Caan. Just to make a comparison.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: In the movie, in the Gambler, he owes 40 grand.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: He goes to his mother, who's a doctor.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: He writes 44,000 in the sand.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: And she's like, what is that? He goes, it's what
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I owe. And she goes, are you kidding me? Like $ 44, 000?
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: You know, and I mean, $ 40, 000 was like a million dollars. Yes,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: it's crazy. Yeah, because it's all inflated things. Yes, yes.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: That's when 40,000 was 40,000.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: That's when money was money. Not like today, it's shit.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Pisses me off because there's no value of money. I'll
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: make a call about that too.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: All right. What's it called?
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: What's it called? What's the thing in your ear? The
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: dry what? Dry socket.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: That's a dry socket.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: That's right. That's a dry socket. So let's get back
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: to the movie.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, back to the movie.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Let's get back to the fucking... Anyway, so the beauty...
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Three hundred and something thousand dollars.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Right, so the point is, so he walks away from that,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: which is incredible.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: He walks away.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: So this is why the real story. So he's like, no,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it. We come back to him.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: We make the movie.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: But also by the end.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Sylvester Stallone not only says I'm going to play the part,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: he's extraordinary in it, the movie wins an Oscar. So
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: he actually wins. He starts from nothing to winning an Oscar.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I know, but let's get, like, now, he said no,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: he walks away, right? And so then what happens then
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: when he walks away? They come back again?
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: More money, more money, more money.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: How high did it go to?
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: More money. It went up to $ 360, 000.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: And then there's a moment, though, that we realized... So
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: when was the moment that they realized... He's.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Not going away away, but then that's when us as
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: the producers realized like why are we really doing this?
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I mean this guy has or he's like he wrote
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: an incredible script He's incredibly like the Lords of Flatbush
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: and we know we as the producers like reduce the
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: people that are not letting it Go through because we're
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: gonna back him. We want him to do it. We
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: wanted to be the lead now It's the studio that's
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: blocking it, but we've got what are they saying? They're like,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: I don't want it. They want to start. They're just
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: like that's the way we still operate today and People
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: know that face. They're gonna put their butts in the
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: seats because they like that face.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Even though it was gonna be an independent movie.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, sort of. I mean, it wasn't technically
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: an independent movie. We wanted to make the movie for
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: $ 3 million. And the fact that, like, I'll explain it
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: as it goes on.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Who wanted to make it? The producers did?
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: We wanted to make the movie. The studio was going
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: to make it for $ 3 million, right? Right.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: And then if you're going to put that guy in.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: They didn't want to be a part of it, but
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: there's something that we had in our contract as the producers,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: that we love this guy. If we can make a
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: movie for less than $ 1 million, we get to decide
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: who the lead is.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, so in other words, if you make a movie
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: for a million or less?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: We get to decide who to cast.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: We have casting power. Right. And so we say, so
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: we have a beautiful conversation. Like, I think we love
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: this kid. We believe in him. To the studio?
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, just for us, to us.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Who was it?
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: United Artists?
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: It was United Artists.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: They were a great company.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: They were a great company. Yeah.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: But in the moment, me and Bob have to have
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: a real moment. Because we have families.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: So what's the real moment? We want to make big moments.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: We are deciding, like, are we really going to go
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: with this kid? We can make a big movie now
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: and make a lot of money. Or are we going
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: to bet on this kid and this film as well?
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Right. And we're like, and we have a conversation. Because
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: you don't got to be a genius to read that
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: script and know that this guy.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Wrote something great. Well, we think it's great. But it's
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: still like, we don't know if this kid's an actor.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Has he ever boxed in his life?
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: We don't know any of this.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: But there's something, there's a spirit in him. And like,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: why do we come to LA to make art, to
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: do great things? Not just to necessarily make money. We
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: do believe in, we show up every day to make art,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: at least I think we do. Listen, the guy had charisma. Yeah,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: and that's why we bank on him and go, you
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: know what, let's do it. So we go to the
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: studio and say, we have a clause.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: He's like, screw you. He's like, all right, I'll let
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: you do your little clause.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: But if you go over one day of shooting, I'm
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: going to fire him and I'm going to fly in
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Ryan O'Neal or Burt Reynolds to play this part. So
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: we were put on such constraints of not a lot
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: of days of shooting. And at any moment, he was
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: going to be pulled from the job. And that's sort
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: of the beauty of it. The fact that this movie
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: is so great under the constraints that we were put into. Right.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: And that's why we got, you know.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: How many days shoot was it? I think it was
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: something ridiculous. It was less than a month. It was
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: like even, it was something like 20 days or something.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: You got to look that number up. I don't know.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I don't want to answer that question. You don't know
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: for a fact.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want, because it varies in different versions that
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I hear. But the point is, they're waiting to kick
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: him off the movie at every moment. And also, there's
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of shots we want to get. So that's
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: why we get this guy, you know, Appleton to direct.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: John Appleton. Right, exactly.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: And also, the beauty of this film as well, this
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: is the first time he uses a steady camera.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: And he's... Steadycam?
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Steadycam. Alvinson's gonna do everything in one take because we
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: gotta get a lot of shots and we get in
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: a big fight because we don't know what the steadycam
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: is yet.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Explain to the people what steadycam is.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: So a steadycam is when these guys literally have a
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: camera attached to their body. That right before then, everyone
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: had these huge contraptions, they would lay down track, there's
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: this like a thousand pound rig that you put the
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: camera on so everything's smooth and nice and beautiful but
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: this guy that was working on the Muppets invented the
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: steadycam and we went and met him And this is
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: an incredible moment, like, can you, this is gonna work?
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: The sample he shows us, that this guy that invented it,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: first it's his wife running in his backyard.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: In a farm, and he's running after her, like, this
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: is amazing.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: And then he shows a clip of the Philadelphia Art
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Museum of his wife running up the steps, the famous
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: steps that we all see, and then her running down
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: those steps. And when we look at that and the
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: director looks out, they're like, wait a second, can we
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: do that? Now, if we don't see that sample, that
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: clip of him doing that, that famous step scene, which
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: everybody in the world loves now and loves throwing up
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: those steps, It doesn't happen if we don't get the
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: guy that holds the Steadicam that invents it.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: It's incredible. It's incredible.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: It doesn't exist.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beautiful.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: How much was Steadicam used in that movie? Like everything, almost.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I feel like it was like everything. We were just
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: ripping and moving and going and doing one takes.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Did they rehearse that movie a lot? No, I think
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: they were just ripping and going. No, they were just going.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Sylvester didn't do a lot of rehearsal?
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I think he just had his own thing. No, we
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: had to go and shoot. And they went and shot,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: just kind of like we did. You know, Peter, God
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: bless Peter. First of all, to get into how I
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: got it, I knew Erwin Winkler because he produced The
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Wolf of Wall Street.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I just knew him. It wasn't because I'm getting to
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: park that. But I'm like, I knew that guy... I
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: know him.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: I worked in development at Warner Brothers for a little
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: while over there at Chris O'Donnell's company. I know these guys,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: these producers and development guys.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: They're my friends. Also where I live in Silver Lake.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: These guys were involved in many iconic movies.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: It's incredible. I mean, you know some of the iconic movies. No,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: it's incredible. It's incredible. The names that they have their
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: names on. It's bonkers.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: But he's still doing the Creed. So Erwin Winkler is
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: still alive. He's like 95 years old. He remembers 50
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: years ago like it's 15 minutes ago. The guy is
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: just an absolute legend. So that's what I'm like, but
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: the beauty for this movie, for me though, truly, I
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: owe like Peter Farley, like everything.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: So I did a green book with him. Yeah.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And for that too. Yeah. Yes.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Friend of mine.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: The best. Yeah. The best.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Fuck you and everything.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Well, three kids.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: It's like not a movie made that P.J. Byrne is
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: not in. I want you to understand. God bless you.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Anything that's being made, P.J. Byrne is a fucking part
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I love you.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: God bless you.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Three children, please.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Don't let that stop.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Don't let that stop.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Boston College. Finance major. Fucking brilliant. Don't let that stop.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: So I'm in that movie, so I do that, and
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: I think, but Peter will say this too, he goes,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: I always think that PJ needed his Paul Giamatti shot.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: He needs a bigger part in a movie. You?
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: You do?
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Is this the part?
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: So this is the part.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: It's the biggest part I ever had, it's the highest
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I've ever been, you know, in a bigger movie, not like,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: you know, indies we've done, but like, this is the
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: biggest part I ever had in a film.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: What's the budget on this thing? Good budget?
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: It's not, I don't think it was that, I think
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: it was kind of like 20 million. It was kind
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: of like a lower budget.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: 10, 20? Yeah, yeah. But that's how we were shooting.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: So there's, and the beauty of Peter is he's like
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: a genius as far as he's editing in the moment
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: as it's happening. So there's times I'll add a joke
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: or I'll say something new for the first time. He's like,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: all right, we got it, move it on. I'm like,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I just said that line. What do you mean you're
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: moving on? Like, I don't even know if I like
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: that line. He's like, oh no, I got it. I'm like,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: do you want it from a different angle?
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, I got it. That is a
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: scary moment.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: So we're doing a lot of takes and just one
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: take as well, just like the real film. Right.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: And for me, you know. Who wrote the script?
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: This guy named Peter Gamble. And it's just like, yeah,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: it's a beautiful script. No, but he, look, Peter gave me,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I've been doing this a long time for 25 years.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: And like, just true to this, giving Rocky, you know,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Sylvester Stallone a shot. He gave me a shot. And
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: then you got to speak to also the kid that plays.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now tell me about this kid. This kid is
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: just a kid from Long Island, dude. An absolute stud.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: He played Al Pacino in an offer. Yes. I'm like,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: who the hell is this kid? I want to meet him.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: He's a sweetheart. He's a stud. A Long Island kid?
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: He's a Long Island kid.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: He's a paisan. I'm got it. He's like the best dude.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, there, you know, you know, there's, you know, you,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: you know, you, you know, you, you know, I'm getting
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: my accent back from Jersey right now. It's coming back.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: East coast. Um, East coast. Here we go. Like why
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: is PJ? He's not even talking like he's from Jersey.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: He's talking like Nikki.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Fuck.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: So, I can't, you're unbelievable. You're unbelievable. I was going
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: to say, yeah, you're not eating your food. I should
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: be like, you're cleaning your mouth. Oh, my God.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: And your chin on my own. Here we go.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Remember that? John Travolta. I remember they would say John Travolta.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I just worked with him. Oh, God.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love him.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: That's an Italian word, but I would say it sounds
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: like John Travolta.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, John Travolta.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: John Travolta. Look it up. Look it up. So, Anthony Ippolito.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Is that his name? Ippolito. Paesan.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Paesan.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: He's a paesan.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: What did he do before the offer? I never saw
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: this kid. Just like some little nothings, whatever.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, out of nowhere, he's extraordinary.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: You will appreciate this.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: I know. So there's times when you've done movies, right?
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: How old is the kid?
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: He's a high kid.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: He's shot at 20, that's another thing. He's 25 shooting
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: the movie.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Sylvester Stallone, when he's doing it, is like 29, about
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: to turn 30. So he's also like five years younger
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: than the real guy.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Did he have to pump up and everything?
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: He pumped up. He had about a year to train.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I heard he like, he campaigned for himself. Dude, he
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: put on like 40 pounds. Yeah, no, so he knew
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: this was going to happen.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: How did he know?
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: He saw it on like the break, not the breakdowns.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: He saw it at like Hollywood Reporter. He saw the article.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: He got someone to get him a script. So he
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: picked a scene. So there was a script.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: So he picked a scene and he puts himself on
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: tape in his basement. Hitting the bag a little bit,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: doing the accent, which is extraordinary, because everybody in the
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: world does a Sylvester Stallone accent. And it can get
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: really cheesy really fast if you do it bad. If
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: you do it bad, it can be scary. But he
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: absolutely nails it. He gets the tape to Peter Farley,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: and they literally go, the search hasn't begun, and it's stopped.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Were they going to just search for people? I'm sure
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: they wanted famous people, just like that.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: And they wanted famous people for my part.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: The beauty of Peter is, let's be true to this
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Let's find basically who we think are the best people
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: that are for the role.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Like what a concept.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Right. And he's just crushed it. You're in a movie.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: There's times when you're shooting a movie, right? With your
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: fellow actors and you go, Oh my God, this is amazing.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Like you, you become an audience member. You're like, you're
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: not in the scene anymore. You are, but you're like,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: you know, when they're nailing it, you know, when your
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: partner's like, you're watching it. It's like Margot Robbie in Babylon.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: There's a scene where she has to cry and then
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: cry again. Like, can you just do one tear? She
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: was really doing that. Like, it was an extraordinary moment.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: You get caught up in watching the other person. She
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: was so insane. They didn't do teardrops. She was doing
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: one out of this side, one out of that. So
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: what was the scene.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: In this movie? But Leo in doing Wolf of Wall Street,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is amazing. So there's a lot
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: of times with Anthony, though, that not only you're like,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: oh my God, this kid is crushing it. Your brain
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: literally goes, did Sylvester Stallone travel through space and time? Right.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: To be in the scene with us.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Right. And like, that's what's going, that's how good it was.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: I got to tell you something, because I saw, before
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: the trailer, maybe he showed me the trailer the first time,
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: and you know, I was looking at it going, did
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: like a double take, and I'm like, wait a minute.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: You have to.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Is this, is this an impersonation? I'm just, I'm saying,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at it going, is this an impersonation? Yes.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Or is, This guy, him. It's incredible.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Because, you know, like you said, for years, millions of people,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: you know, everybody's doing that.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Stallone.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, I did it. Everybody's done it. But I'm like,
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: but I'm watching the voice and then I'm watching the
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: essence of the kid.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, wow.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: It's extraordinary.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I thought I was almost watching a version of him.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's what caught my eye. And it's soulful
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: and grounded and real.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: This actually looks fucking good.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: How do you like the pizza?
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: I hated the pizza.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: You hated it?
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: No, because I invest in another pizza place. I don't
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: want to be here. No, that's a lie. No, this
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: by the way.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Prince Street for Life, baby.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, shit. So I'm right. That's how I did it
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: on the ground.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: That's okay. No, I love Prince Street for Life, baby.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Insane pizza.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Thank you for coming to LA.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: We need you.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: We need you in LA.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Stay here. Don't leave us. Open up all over the city.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Let's get one in Silver Lake next. Please. Please.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: This could be Mushy Flynn. If I get this movie made.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Bless me, father. This crazy reporter called Mushy Flynn.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: I'm in. You do it? Whatever you want. Too familiar.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: I work with friends. Best way to go to work. Yeah,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I like to work with. Somebody I want to direct.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: There's certain people that you, all the other friends, you
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: have to say yes. I rule with friends. Yeah, no,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: I've always liked you. You have to say yes. Yeah,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: and I mean, you know, I'm glad we did this.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Well, we made love in that movie that we did together.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: You were a 10. I was a 2. I'm so sorry.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I let you down.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I was a 10. Yeah.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: I am a 10. It was a dry socket moment
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: for me, guys. I apologize. I apologize. Ladies and gentlemen,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: BJ Byrne. An honor, dude. You're a legend, man. Thank you.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: You're the legend.