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Jordan Yost's HR, Spencer Torkelson scenarios + more · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
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Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network, Tiger's podcast. I'm here in Steckley
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Speaker 1: with me as always as a man who you know,
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Speaker 1: never much minded the IDEs of March. He is Cody Savinagen.
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Speaker 1: How you doing?
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Speaker 2: Hey good. I appreciate all Julius Caesar references. So I'm
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Speaker 2: all about it.
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Speaker 1: There you go, there you go, and I'll tell you
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Speaker 1: what what I'm all about was what we witnessed today.
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Speaker 1: We're recording this early evening Sunday. UH. The Tigers had,
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Speaker 1: perhaps and just in time for you to return to
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Speaker 1: UH spring spring training coverage, Cody had probably their greatest
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Speaker 1: feel good day of spring training. There's a there's a
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Speaker 1: couple of moments in there of note, but you know
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Speaker 1: you have your big ticket free agent addition. Picture comes
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Speaker 1: out and show and Toorglesen hits a home run, Ridley
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Speaker 1: Green hits a home run, not Vera Lane hits a
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Speaker 1: home run, and then you get a grand Slam from
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Speaker 1: last year's first round traff pick Jordan Yo. It's a
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Speaker 1: guy that you know, like we just haven't seen a
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Speaker 1: whole lot of because you know, picked last year high
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Speaker 1: school guy, all that stuff. You know, we'll see what
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Speaker 1: happens with his future and playing in his hometown. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's like probably the greatest spring training day of the season.
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Speaker 1: And I feel I'm not even like exaggerated, Like all
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Speaker 1: the vibes are good. I don't know you were there,
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Speaker 1: what do.
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Speaker 2: You think, Yeah, it's interesting. I showed up to Steinbrenner
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Speaker 2: Field fresh off a seven am flight. There have been
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Speaker 2: some pretty good feel good days already this spring. You've
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Speaker 2: had Justin Verlander starts, You've had all the Kevin McGonagall moments,
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Speaker 2: you know, just signing from her and JV and having
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Speaker 2: their press conferences. You started spring on a really good
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Speaker 2: note having not been in camp for a little bit.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: It's it's always funny when you kind of come back
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Speaker 2: toward the end and people are feeling a little burnt out.
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Speaker 1: Man.
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Speaker 2: People are tired, a little bit testy, ready to get
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Speaker 2: on with the real thing. So just the vibe around
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Speaker 2: everything that wasn't what I picked up, But you're so
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Speaker 2: right in that when you kind of step back. You
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Speaker 2: had two rain delays today. I don't think people were
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Speaker 2: loving that. Thankfully they were short. But then when you
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Speaker 2: step back and you look at everything that happened in
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Speaker 2: that game. Pretty good day, Like from Ervaldoz was terrific.
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Speaker 2: Just no one can barrel this guy up, which has
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Speaker 2: been the reason for you know, success throughout his career.
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Speaker 2: No one can barrel him up in the air, and
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Speaker 2: no one barreled him up in the air for pretty
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Speaker 2: much that entire routing. You had Spencer Torkleson, he's been
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Speaker 2: fine this spring, but didn't have a home run, you know,
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Speaker 2: and he finally connected on the home run. You had
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Speaker 2: Riley Green hitt an absolute tank. Good to see. And
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Speaker 2: then the Jordan Yost moment was actually really cool. His family,
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Speaker 2: you know, parents', grandparents and some high school coaches were
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Speaker 2: right in front of the press box window, so that
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Speaker 2: ball left the yard and they were just, oh, they
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Speaker 2: were going crazy. They were crying at the end. It
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Speaker 2: was like kind of a really cool human moment. And
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Speaker 2: then I met Jordan Jost for the first time after
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Speaker 2: the game, and you know, you see this guy on
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Speaker 2: video and you're like, well, he's got some filling out
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Speaker 2: to do. You see him in person, it's like all
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Speaker 2: this guy's like he's built about like me, maybe a
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Speaker 2: little taller, might be thinner than probably about how I
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Speaker 2: looked at that age, like eighteen nineteen. So I'm not
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Speaker 2: sure if I should be like, wait, this guy was
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Speaker 2: a first round pick. Is that concerning? Or should I
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Speaker 2: be like, oh, my own athletic ability must really suck,
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Speaker 2: because this dude's a first round pick. Clearly he's a
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Speaker 2: talented young player, and our first time really seeing him
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Speaker 2: first at bat in major league spring training just happens
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Speaker 2: to hit a grand Slam. That's a pretty good way
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Speaker 2: to start off your career.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like you mentioned the two rain deler
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Speaker 1: and and looks you you do this every day. Like sometimes,
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Speaker 1: especially with it being spring training, like there's a little
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Speaker 1: bit of a cynical thing where it's like, really, are
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Speaker 1: we gonna like ride out like a second rain delay
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Speaker 1: in a spring training game that if you care about scores,
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Speaker 1: is not even close. Uh you know, you know, but
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Speaker 1: then but then like the Yost moment happens and you
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Speaker 1: and you get a feel for or I would say,
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Speaker 1: like a another reminder of the appreciation for what spring
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Speaker 1: training can be and what it is about in a
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Speaker 1: lot of ways, and and and it's moments like that
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Speaker 1: which you know he'll obviously never forget his family, will
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Speaker 1: never forget that everything all lined up so well, uh
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Speaker 1: so great, you know, happy, happy for the kid, and
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Speaker 1: and you know, it brings back memories of like when
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Speaker 1: the pick was made, kind of being like, okay, you
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Speaker 1: know all the draft guys kind of viewed him as
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Speaker 1: like maybe I'm misremembering, but I think they kind of
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Speaker 1: mostly had him in like the forties or whatever. And
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Speaker 1: and he's picked in the in the midd twenties, and
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Speaker 1: it's like, you know, the Tigers really kind of trusting
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Speaker 1: their their scouts and their and their methods and all
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Speaker 1: that stuff to pick a kid like this. And you
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Speaker 1: know it's just one spring training game, it's one at bet,
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Speaker 1: but hell, the pick looks pretty good, you know, like.
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Speaker 2: You know, you know, they're like Kevin mcgonagall's job on
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Speaker 2: the line. Should the Tigers trade McGonagall.
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Speaker 1: Should they move should they move Rainer to center? Already? Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know there's the the overreactions are priceless. But you
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Speaker 1: said you talk to him, is there I mean it's
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Speaker 1: just one interview or whatever, But is there like anything
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Speaker 1: to like glean about this, you know, like you know
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Speaker 1: about like, you know, what kind of kid. He is
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Speaker 1: on a scale of McGonagall the Max Clark, how would
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Speaker 1: you how would you say?
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Speaker 2: Uh, clerk, I was thinking about it. It might have been
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Speaker 2: is for other than like doing a zoom on draft night,
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Speaker 2: like the first time he had talked with uh probably
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Speaker 2: one of the first interviews he's ever done, certainly with
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Speaker 2: you know, major League beat writer. So he's he was
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Speaker 2: probably still coming down from the high of hitting a
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Speaker 2: grand slam, maybe almost a little nervous. Seemed like a
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Speaker 2: good humble kid, you know, said said the right thing.
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Speaker 1: Said.
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Speaker 2: He's already gained thirteen pounds for the record working with
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Speaker 2: the Tigers training staff, it was it was relatively short. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: good humble kid and join the moment.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I mean, if he did
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Speaker 1: act humble, then that's probably the best scouting report that
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Speaker 1: we could have on him to to date, because I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure if I in that situation would come across
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Speaker 1: all that humble after hitting a grand slam against against
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Speaker 1: the New York Yankees slam.
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Speaker 2: I have to figure it out.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if my life is pretty set, Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have the capacity to
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Speaker 1: be humble at that age. So if that, if if
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Speaker 1: he is, then you know, that might be the best
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Speaker 1: testament for him. Uh, speaking of a field good stuff,
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Speaker 1: Not like a whole lot to say, but it's just
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Speaker 1: one of those things that we haven't mentioned yet, and
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Speaker 1: I think we should. Uh. Dylan Dingler looks like Dylan Dingler. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And by that, I mean like he even had a
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Speaker 1: backpick attempt today. Uh. And and you know, I think
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Speaker 1: he had a base at I don't have the box
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Speaker 1: score in front of me, but but like the reason
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Speaker 1: I want to make note of it is there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of times with these injuries, especially like arm injuries,
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Speaker 1: and you know, catchers not pitcher, but you understand these
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Speaker 1: arm injuries where it's like, oh, you know, it's not
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Speaker 1: that big a deal, like everything be all right. I mean, hell,
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Speaker 1: last year we were more optimistic than it turned out
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Speaker 1: with Matt ver Lan, with Parker Meadows. And then you know,
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Speaker 1: the Meltain thing so far is obviously still unresolved. But
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Speaker 1: Dylan Dingler has a little little arm issue. You know,
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Speaker 1: everything's fine, gonna be good, Just gonna push back, you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of what I normally do. A couple of weeks
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Speaker 1: and everything good and seems like everything's good. So that's
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Speaker 1: there's there's some good injury news right there. We'll get
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Speaker 1: that too often.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably almost taken for granted a little bit, like
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Speaker 2: we heard it was gonna be fine with Dingler, and
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Speaker 2: so I think most people myself just kind of assumed,
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Speaker 2: all right, like they'll ease him into his duties behind
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Speaker 2: the plate. Once he gets back there, he'll be gold
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Speaker 2: glove caliber and he'll have an incredible arm and it'll
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Speaker 2: be like he didn't, you know, have his right elbow
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Speaker 2: cleaned out. That's what it looks like. It's been easy.
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Speaker 2: But we probably yeah, I think, good on you, Karen
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Speaker 2: for pointing that out. We should probably appreciate that that
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Speaker 2: has gone incredibly smoothly. And he certainly looks like himself.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because again, like there's as we saw last year,
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Speaker 1: it was just what he does, what he's capable of.
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Speaker 1: And I still think even though, like you know, unrealistic
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Speaker 1: to expect a gold Glove a second consecutive season, like,
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Speaker 1: there's still obviously more to grow for for Dylan Ingler
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Speaker 1: being such a young player. So uh, check that to
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Speaker 1: this point in the positive column. Yeah, something that's not
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Speaker 1: in the posit if call him Cody is what we've
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Speaker 1: seen from Casey Mice. So we had a lot of
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Speaker 1: feel good here for the first you know, ten or
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Speaker 1: so minutes of the podcast. Now we gotta kind of
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Speaker 1: come down the earth a little bit. Casey Miz has
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Speaker 1: pitched a little bit more than eleven innings in spring training.
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Speaker 1: He's given up fourteen hits, twelve runs, nine of them earned.
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Speaker 1: He's got seven walks and six strikeouts. I would say
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Speaker 1: that if like JV wasn't here, if Fromber wasn't here, like,
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Speaker 1: there's definitely like a scenario where we'd be like leading
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Speaker 1: podcasts and freaking the f out about what's going on
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Speaker 1: with Casey Mice. And I want to give him credit
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Speaker 1: for like being authentic when talking to the media. There's
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Speaker 1: that word authentic when talking to the media, where he
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Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, I'm just like my mechanics are off.
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Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta get with Chris, I gotta get
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Speaker 1: with aj I gotta see what's going on here where
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Speaker 1: he's not I would say panicking, but just based on
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Speaker 1: the words, he's recognizing the gravity of the situation where
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Speaker 1: I don't know how else to say it on As
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Speaker 1: of March fifteenth, twenty twenty six, Casey Maiz does not
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Speaker 1: have it right now. And as I said on our
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Speaker 1: last episode, we're right at that point where all right, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's you know, it's mid March, but it's also it's
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Speaker 1: mid March now, like you know, the time is running
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Speaker 1: down here. So I don't know, do you have like
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Speaker 1: a an opinion on that with like, you know, what
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Speaker 1: level of concern should we have regarding you know, Casey
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Speaker 1: Mai is just like not having a feel for it
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Speaker 1: in spring training.
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Speaker 2: It's always so tough to know, you know, we talk
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Speaker 2: about not overreacting the spring training results, but kind of
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Speaker 2: what do you take, you know, what do you glean
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Speaker 2: from certain things? It does go beyond just the box score.
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Speaker 2: His command, especially in his more recent outing, has been
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Speaker 2: very bad. A good version of Casey Miz needs to
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Speaker 2: have pretty close to pinpoint fastball command. It just hasn't
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Speaker 2: been there. I'm not overly worried because sometimes this just
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Speaker 2: happens to guys in spring Take for example, twenty twenty one,
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Speaker 2: Casey Miz had a seven point two to three er.
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Speaker 2: He almost didn't make the team. Well so far, twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty one is the best season of Casey Miies's professional career,
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Speaker 2: so maybe it's a great harbinger that he's having a
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Speaker 2: bad spring training. I don't know, certainly, the way Casey
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Speaker 2: talked entering camp how this had been kind of his
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Speaker 2: first normal off season where he wasn't hurt or wasn't
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Speaker 2: making some sweeping overhaul. Yeah, it probably would have been
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Speaker 2: nice to just see him come in and shove from
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Speaker 2: day one and look like he had unlocked some whole
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Speaker 2: other gear. That's not the case, But I don't know that.
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Speaker 2: I'm too worried. I think this would have to linger
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Speaker 2: starts into the regular season for any alarm bells to
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Speaker 2: really sound on my end, So.
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna read his quotes. This is via Jason
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Speaker 1: Beck's article on MLB dot com. Quote, my mechanics are off.
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Speaker 1: Something's out of whack, continuing to quote him, I don't
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Speaker 1: talk mechanics a ton. It's not really my thing. But
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Speaker 1: I have to right now because that's the problem. That's
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Speaker 1: never been my issue. That's why it's frustrating that it's
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Speaker 1: happening now. But there's a silver lining. History will probably
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Speaker 1: tell you that it's not going to continue, but I've
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Speaker 1: got to work for sure. I feel like the appropriate
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Speaker 1: level of concern with that where it's like I would
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Speaker 1: deem that you should have your mechanics down pretty well,
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Speaker 1: like that would be a good thing if to quote,
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Speaker 1: not be out of whack. But he does have enough
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Speaker 1: of a track record to tell you that this should
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Speaker 1: not become the theme of the year for Casey miz
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Speaker 1: And he's in a not precarious but he's in a
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Speaker 1: very interesting situation. We've talked about it before, but it's
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Speaker 1: worth baron repeating right now in terms of what's at
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Speaker 1: stake for him, Like he's a guy that you know,
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Speaker 1: as a number one overall pick, has seen the franchise
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Speaker 1: ascend to this level in his time in the organization,
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Speaker 1: which is what you want if you're the number one
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Speaker 1: overall pick to get to this point. Obviously higher with
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Speaker 1: the franchise that takes you that high. But he's also
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Speaker 1: not under contract after this season, so he like kind
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Speaker 1: of what his path will be as a starting pitcher
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Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball is going to be determined this year.
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Speaker 1: Whether it's going to be one of those guys that
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Speaker 1: gets and I want to like project numbers and make
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Speaker 1: it seem like I'm an expert on next year's market
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Speaker 1: with a lockout looming, But like, you know, is he
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Speaker 1: going to be getting twenty twenty two to twenty five
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Speaker 1: or whatever million dollars per year on a multi year
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Speaker 1: contract or is he going to be you know, get
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Speaker 1: in like the nineteen for a year with the team
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Speaker 1: option type stuff like that. These are the things that
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Speaker 1: it's at stake for him. And then obviously, like his
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Speaker 1: ability is a luxury when you have school bal and
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Speaker 1: fromber and to a certain extent, the vacuum that is
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Speaker 1: justin Verlander, Like what he can be for you is
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Speaker 1: like not not going to say, like a bonus, but
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Speaker 1: like a back end name for you and your rotation
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Speaker 1: that can be very advantageous. So like there's a like
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Speaker 1: a lot riding on him. The Tigers have a lot
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Speaker 1: riding on him, and the Meltain injury and what you
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Speaker 1: do with some of these other guys like you got,
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Speaker 1: you start to get a little thinner if Casey Miz
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Speaker 1: from a perspective standpoint, if Casey Mice doesn't have it.
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Speaker 1: So I just think, like we don't talk about him
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Speaker 1: as much as the other guys. But there's still like real,
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Speaker 1: real stakes there, I guess is my main.
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Speaker 2: Point, Yeah, for sure, and not to over react, but
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Speaker 2: it is also interesting there is there's some competition, Like
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Speaker 2: the starts aren't just handed to you because your name's
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Speaker 2: Casey Mayes jaw Anderson's going to start the year in
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Speaker 2: the bullpen and finally did give up a run and
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Speaker 2: walk a couple guys Sunday. But he's been phenomenal. What
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Speaker 2: does that look like if Melton gets healthy, cater Montero,
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Speaker 2: we all know what he's capable of. So obviously there
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Speaker 2: is I don't even know if it's pressure, but there
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Speaker 2: is reason beyond for Casey, Hey, get in the lab,
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Speaker 2: sort out your mechanics, get back to throwing strikes. If
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Speaker 2: I head to guess, I think he'll probably be okay.
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Speaker 1: All right, And with that is time for some World
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Speaker 1: all WBC games over the next couple of days, and
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Speaker 1: after that, the best MLB action all season long. So
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Speaker 1: the Tigers have had a I would say they've been
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Speaker 1: pretty well represented. I haven't done a power rankings or anything, Cody,
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Speaker 1: but I would say that they've been pretty well represented
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Speaker 1: in the World Baseball Classic. Trek Schooble in multiple ways
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Speaker 1: might be the headliner some off the field on the
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Speaker 1: field stuff. So I thought I just kind of jotted
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Speaker 1: down the h some some stats from the World Baseball
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Speaker 1: Classic among Tigers players and and maybe just say, like
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Speaker 1: who's who's number one, with the possibility that it could
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Speaker 1: change here in a second. So schoop bol a reminder
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Speaker 1: in that start against Great Britain, the uh notorious storrt
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Speaker 1: I guess Great Britain, can we say notorious? Uh? Three
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Speaker 1: three innings, he gave up the one run this leoff
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Speaker 1: home run. He had five k's Emanuel DeJesus, who again
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Speaker 1: might be Camp MVP, and and it's definitely been been
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Speaker 1: a World Baseball Classic star one point two to three
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Speaker 1: ERA and seven innings, just over seven innings. That's eleven
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Speaker 1: case to his credit, labor Torus for Team Venezuela, two
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Speaker 1: for eleven. Kenley Jansen got in there for one inning
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Speaker 1: for the Netherlands. He had a strikeout, didn't give up
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Speaker 1: a run. Kater Martero three innings, two k's give him
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Speaker 1: three hits. He is starting on Monday night, so he
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Speaker 1: has an opportunity to elevate his status. And then Jamiah
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Speaker 1: Jones five for twenty one for Team Korea. He had
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Speaker 1: a double and day home run. So to this point,
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Speaker 1: as we are winding down the World Baseball Classic, Cody
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Speaker 1: who among the Tigers has won the World Baseball Classic.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go in Manuel DeJesus because he got himself
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Speaker 2: a spot on the forty man roster by shoving in
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Speaker 2: the WBC. Followed that up with I think two and
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Speaker 2: a third innings in a huge upset win against Japan,
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Speaker 2: struck out a guy named Shohei Otani. Might have set
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Speaker 2: himself up pretty well in his career, might have just
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Speaker 2: helped himself make the team. But through his performance in
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Speaker 2: the WBC, I think he's got to be number one
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Speaker 2: on this list. Cater Montero potentially could eclipse him if
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Speaker 2: he shoves in the semi final against Italy and gets
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Speaker 2: Venezuela to the final. But yeah, if I had to
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Speaker 2: pick someone, man, I'm going in there in Manuel DeJesus.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's hard to imagine from the team
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Speaker 1: perspective and then from the international play perspective, like this
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Speaker 1: guy has had probably the best twenty twenty six maybe
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Speaker 1: with you know, school bol winning arbitration is pretty cool,
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Speaker 1: but like you know, from going coming relatively out of
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Speaker 1: nowhere to being like somebody that Tigers fans are really
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Speaker 1: talking about, it's hard to say that the first two
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Speaker 1: and a half months of twenty twenty six don't belong
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Speaker 1: to DeJesus. And again, we'll kind of see he's on
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Speaker 1: the he hasn't broken camp with the team yet, so
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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens there. But you know, just obviously
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Speaker 1: a victory to get on the forty man and then
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Speaker 1: done a great job representing his country. I guess I
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Speaker 1: should put Miguel Cabrera and Victor Martinez on there as
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Speaker 1: well for being like enthusiastic coaches with Team Venezuela. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: want to.
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Speaker 1: let's let's get to Cody A a subject that I'm
20:26
Speaker 1: admittedly more fascinated by than it probably warrants, and I
20:33
Speaker 1: admit that, But when but when Tork got hit by
20:38
Speaker 1: the pitch and obviously he's okay hit the home run today,
20:41
Speaker 1: when Tork got hit by the pitch in the simulated game,
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Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, like, you know, they avoided anything catastrophic,
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Speaker 1: I was like, huh, what happens if Spencer Torkelsen gets hurt?
20:55
Speaker 1: And I started kind of looking at the roster and
20:57
Speaker 1: looking at the forty man, and I was like, things
21:00
Speaker 1: could get kind of janky pretty quickly. So a reminder
21:05
Speaker 1: that Specier Torkleson, as long as he's been a full
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Speaker 1: time Tiger, and I'm discounting obviously the years where he
21:10
Speaker 1: had to go down into the triple A to get
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Speaker 1: his swing right. In twenty twenty three he played one
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty nine games, In twenty twenty five he
21:20
Speaker 1: played one hundred and fifty five games. That is durability,
21:24
Speaker 1: you know, like that is that is like something that
21:27
Speaker 1: the mager can say, all right, I'm gonna I'm good
21:29
Speaker 1: for Specer Torkleson to be able to get in the
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Speaker 1: line up there. But by design initially and then by
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Speaker 1: I would say, by design in both ways, by design
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Speaker 1: to give Torque the runway, and then by design now
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Speaker 1: that he you know, seems like he's figured his stuff out,
21:48
Speaker 1: there's not really a lot of clean options, I would say,
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Speaker 1: for for first base if he goes down for any
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Speaker 1: sort of length of time. So am I right here?
21:58
Speaker 1: Am I? Do you do you find this fascinating or
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Speaker 1: like what or just like or do you have an idea.
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Speaker 1: What kind of the play is if Tork has to
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Speaker 1: miss some time.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if I find it fascinating, but now
22:10
Speaker 2: that you mention it, it is interesting to think about
22:13
Speaker 2: his hypothetical scenario. We certainly do not wish injury upon
22:17
Speaker 2: Spencer Torgelsen, but yeah, I do think it's interesting because well,
22:23
Speaker 2: a decent amount has been made this camp of Jase
22:26
Speaker 2: Young learning first base, and Jase has had himself a
22:29
Speaker 2: nice camp hitting I think over three twenty, and the
22:33
Speaker 2: Tigers to me seemed pretty pleased with his swing adjustments
22:36
Speaker 2: and how he's taken to first base. But it doesn't
22:39
Speaker 2: mean Jace Young is the second or maybe even the
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Speaker 2: third string first basement. I think if Tork were to
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Speaker 2: get hurt, the natural move is probably to move Colt
22:49
Speaker 2: Keith right over there, and that could open up reps
22:52
Speaker 2: for McKinstry or veer Ling or Hobby Bias or someone
22:58
Speaker 2: else at third base. Let's say left handed pitcher colt'snut
23:04
Speaker 2: hidden left as well. Who's going to play first? Well,
23:06
Speaker 2: Matt Vierling could play him first, that's a possibility. If
23:10
Speaker 2: you're dipping into Toledo, would you go a right handed
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Speaker 2: bat to replace a right handed bat in Torklsen. I
23:18
Speaker 2: think that's where it gets interesting because I think maybe
23:20
Speaker 2: so so maybe it's someone like Edwardovalencia who would get
23:23
Speaker 2: that shot even if Jase is raking, just because if
23:26
Speaker 2: you were to try to have again, this is kind
23:29
Speaker 2: of contingent on other parts of your roster, but if
23:31
Speaker 2: you were to have Jase Young in the same lineup
23:34
Speaker 2: as Kevin McGonagall and Parker Meadows, all of a sudden,
23:37
Speaker 2: you get really left handed and it gets difficult to
23:41
Speaker 2: drop a lineup against left handed pitching. So that's a
23:46
Speaker 2: weird hypothetical rabbit hole, but it is kind of something
23:49
Speaker 2: to consider, just a reminder sometimes things are more complicated
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Speaker 2: than they seem.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, again, like when I was kind of going through
23:58
Speaker 1: the exercise, I just I just felt like there was
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Speaker 1: a lot of like I was surprised by the amount
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Speaker 1: of ripple effects that like a torque injury would cause.
24:13
Speaker 1: I think is the way to phrase it. Because again,
24:16
Speaker 1: like I the young thing, like I would say, I
24:18
Speaker 1: would want to give Young that kind of runway like you,
24:22
Speaker 1: you know, you made him learn first base anyway he
24:25
Speaker 1: has done to this point, you know, performed like you
24:28
Speaker 1: would like you would want him to. He's on the
24:31
Speaker 1: forty man already. I can't say I was in love
24:34
Speaker 1: with Valencia at first base in spring training. It's just
24:37
Speaker 1: spring training. But and we know, like the bad is
24:40
Speaker 1: you know, right handed and you know profile as well,
24:43
Speaker 1: but that to me would be more dicey. But then
24:47
Speaker 1: the left handed thing. See now I'm just like talking
24:49
Speaker 1: it through, and it's like, man, there's actually like a
24:51
Speaker 1: lot here. And then who you have in your outfield
24:53
Speaker 1: if you move Vierlan, which could depend as we talked
24:57
Speaker 1: about last time about what Kevin mcgogle, there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of ripple effects, It's what I'm saying, and so like, man,
25:05
Speaker 1: this stuff, and and I think that's also a reminder,
25:10
Speaker 1: like we don't necessarily look at torque and use the
25:14
Speaker 1: word like value all that much, but like that's like
25:18
Speaker 1: a reminder of like a like a non war value
25:23
Speaker 1: of Spencer Tortlesen, and especially given how we thought coming
25:28
Speaker 1: into uh into last season. So uh, it's it's very
25:35
Speaker 1: very happy to see that he avoided and obviously he
25:38
Speaker 1: played a couple of days later, so he's fine. And
25:40
Speaker 1: then he hits the home run today, so he's fine.
25:42
Speaker 1: But that's a scenario that things could you see that
25:46
Speaker 1: Tigers like Gove avenues where they think of something that
25:52
Speaker 1: no one else was doing it special Torrelsen like got hurt.
25:56
Speaker 1: That would be one of the ones where they would
25:58
Speaker 1: like pull something out of left field, like, oh, so
26:01
Speaker 1: this is their like method here we wouldn't like and
26:03
Speaker 1: necessarily thought it. So hopefully it doesn't get to that point.
26:06
Speaker 1: But but something that was just kind of running through
26:09
Speaker 1: my head, and I'm glad we were able to give
26:11
Speaker 1: Jase a little credit here. Even on Saturday, I thought
26:14
Speaker 1: he you know, he had a nice walk against uh
26:17
Speaker 1: against Max Scherzer uh and and had a nice play
26:20
Speaker 1: at first base too, with a little Spencer torklsen scoop
26:24
Speaker 1: at first base so often maligned Jayce Young, But I
26:28
Speaker 1: do think he deserves credit for having a really good
26:31
Speaker 1: camp and in a year that people were I think
26:34
Speaker 1: pretty quick to write him off and maybe this would
26:37
Speaker 1: be Oh, I hope he gets his opportunity, whether it's
26:39
Speaker 1: first base or hell, maybe trying back at third base
26:42
Speaker 1: as something weird happens. You just you does ever know
26:44
Speaker 1: if the Tiger third base is.
26:46
Speaker 2: Still it's it's kind of more third end first right now?
26:51
Speaker 2: On that as we have Matt Veeling. Matt Veeling has
26:53
Speaker 2: not played third at all in this camp, despite education
26:56
Speaker 2: that he would toward the end of camp, despite feeling
26:58
Speaker 2: saying him were gonna remind him j about third base
27:01
Speaker 2: every every chance I can. I think if there's some
27:04
Speaker 2: event where towerk where to get hurt and Colt's playing
27:08
Speaker 2: a lot of first, that could get back in the fold.
27:10
Speaker 2: But right now, I don't think it's coming back in
27:12
Speaker 2: the fold anytime soon. I think they'd rather just see
27:16
Speaker 2: a lot of Colt Keith there and Zach McKinstry. Zach
27:21
Speaker 2: can hold his own against lefties, or at least he
27:23
Speaker 2: did last year. I think in an ideal world, they'd
27:26
Speaker 2: liked Colt to still play against lefties. Hobby might get
27:30
Speaker 2: some time at third, or depending on what happens with
27:32
Speaker 2: the mironical situation. So that is just kind of an
27:35
Speaker 2: interesting note. It seems like the Tigers are drifting away
27:38
Speaker 2: from Veerling at third this spring.
27:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, like I think we also need
27:46
Speaker 1: to like we've given you know, credence to met spring training,
27:50
Speaker 1: but I think we also need to just kind of
27:51
Speaker 1: stay out loud, like when we talk about winners of
27:54
Speaker 1: spring training. He's got to be he's got to be
27:56
Speaker 1: right up.
27:57
Speaker 2: There the regular season, Matti Bie.
28:00
Speaker 1: He's gotta be right up there with the Hayes, Sustin
28:02
Speaker 1: McGonagall and and and and some other guys. So I
28:05
Speaker 1: like it, Like I feel comfortable saying right now, March fifteenth,
28:09
Speaker 1: just after seven o'clock Eastern time, we're good, Matt Barly,
28:13
Speaker 1: We're good. We're good. We've seen enough like we we like.
28:16
Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's get to the regular season with this.
28:18
Speaker 1: Like I said, save some, save some for when the
28:21
Speaker 1: when the games count. All right, I think that's about Oh,
28:25
Speaker 1: I got, Cody. Is there anything else you wanted to
28:26
Speaker 1: get into before we jet out of here?
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Speaker 2: No, I think that's I think that's about it. Opening
28:31
Speaker 2: Day is gonna be upon us quite soon.
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Speaker 1: Quite soon. And we got and we still got a
28:37
Speaker 1: lot to talk about, and a lot it's gonna happen.
28:39
Speaker 1: The McGonagall decision probably coming down the wire. We'll react
28:42
Speaker 1: to that and and so much more. Uh as we
28:47
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