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Best of Chuck & Buck 5-28 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: game off. Hey, good morning and welcome in. It is
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  Speaker 1: the Thursday edition of Chalking Buck in the Morning Sports
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  Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three k j R f M.
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  Speaker 1: Wonderful to have you with us here on this Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: We've got you till ten o'clock on the dot. Here
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  Speaker 1: today it is Ashley Ryan here, my name is Chuck Pollin.
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  Speaker 1: We welcome you into our four hour extravaganza coming up.
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  Speaker 1: We have what's on tap for you. We'll tell you
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  Speaker 1: what's coming up on today's show. All four hours will
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  Speaker 1: map out for you so you can make a plan
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  Speaker 1: around it. So, yeah, if you're like, well, I gotta
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  Speaker 1: I've got attend to my children, but I can't do
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  Speaker 1: it during ABC's No.
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  Speaker 5: You might have like a five minute commercial break for
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  Speaker 5: which you could tend to your children.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, listen for those commercial breaks. Keep it
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  Speaker 1: on though, because our sponsors are really important to us,
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  Speaker 1: So just have it on the background.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, don't turn it off.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, if Ashley or I are talking, we're gonna want
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  Speaker 1: one hundred percent focus. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't well, and I wouldn't expect you would want
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  Speaker 3: to walk away. It's hard to do.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want your brat interfering with good sports talk radio. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let them under control, you know what. Let him figure
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  Speaker 1: out out a crawl. You know, it's part of the process.
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  Speaker 5: It is part of the process. I will say, though,
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  Speaker 5: if they do figure out how to you're not watching,
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  Speaker 5: you'll probably be sad. Yeah, it's kind of a milestone moment.
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  Speaker 1: Be a lot worse if you missed my hot take
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  Speaker 1: on the piggyback again today.
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  Speaker 3: Well that's true, Yeah, so true.
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  Speaker 1: You get away these things.
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  Speaker 5: Actually you're still calling it piggyback chuck.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to figure these things out in life.
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  Speaker 1: These are the dilemmas that everybody faces. You're not alone,
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  Speaker 1: You're not a snowflake. You got these dilemmas, everybody has them.
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  Speaker 1: We make choices in life, and your choice needs to
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  Speaker 1: be to hear my latest hot take on.
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  Speaker 3: The piggyback, you better make the right choice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, your kid will be crawling again tomorrow. Yeah, it'll
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  Speaker 1: be this. If you don't see it, then tomorrow it'll
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  Speaker 1: feel like the first time.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's a song about that, about feeling like
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  Speaker 3: the first time.
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  Speaker 4: Mmm.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, they wrote it about missing your kid crawling.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's all about baby's crawling. So yes, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if a baby crawls in the woods and nobody's around
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  Speaker 1: to see it, did it really happen?
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  Speaker 3: Definitely, not exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so your baby could crawl all over the house
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  Speaker 1: today while you're listening to us for the very first time,
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  Speaker 1: and as long as you don't see it, then you
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  Speaker 1: won't think that it's splendid. Just ignore it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I've never heard better advice.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's what people come here for. It's logic like that. Ye,
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  Speaker 1: and it really does hit people in the core.
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  Speaker 3: Great parenting advice.
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  Speaker 1: Huh, you're welcome. Well, good morning, everybody. Wasn't it a
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  Speaker 1: wonderful day again yesterday. My goodness, I just I just
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  Speaker 1: invented ways. I'm like, look, I need to be outside somewhere,
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  Speaker 1: and I really don't want to drink. I mean, we
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  Speaker 1: came off the big Memorial Day weekend, and I drink
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  Speaker 1: a little bit on Sunday, and I usually give myself
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  Speaker 1: from Saturday through at least Wednesday, maybe all the way
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  Speaker 1: till Friday. You know, you know, just kind of pump
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  Speaker 1: the brakes on that a little bit. And so I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't gonna do it last night, which is, you know, Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: I usually celebrate Wednesdays. It's weird. Yeah, I think you
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  Speaker 1: should too. I agree with that. By the way I
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  Speaker 1: do I celebrate Wednesdays. I kind of feel like that's
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  Speaker 1: the middle of the week. You know, it's, uh, you're
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  Speaker 1: over the hill, and and so you just kind of
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  Speaker 1: give yourself to a little taste of what's coming in
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  Speaker 1: here in a couple of days. But last night I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't gonna do it. So I'm like, Okay, well, where
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  Speaker 1: can I go? What What activity can I do outdoors
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  Speaker 1: that I can enjoy this weather? So I just pulled
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  Speaker 1: up a bench and just made a couple of phone calls,
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  Speaker 1: ended up doing a radio interview in another city and
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  Speaker 1: just did it outside.
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  Speaker 3: I love that.
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  Speaker 1: Just gonna celebrate, you know, just gonna soak in that
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  Speaker 1: wonderful weather.
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  Speaker 3: We had herds chirping, vitamin D and phone.
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  Speaker 1: That's wonderful.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you another thing. It is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I keep hearing, Oh, it's just so green, Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we had a really wet winter and that's the benefit
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  Speaker 1: of it what we're getting right now. It's just gorgeous
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  Speaker 1: out there. Everywhere you turn, everything is gorgeous.
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  Speaker 5: And if you get mad that like, oh gosh, well
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  Speaker 5: we had some really nice sunny days and then on
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  Speaker 5: Monday it decided to rain.
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  Speaker 3: Well you're welcome, yes, because then you got two.
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  Speaker 5: More days of sunshine. You're gonna get a little bit
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  Speaker 5: of rain again. Yeah, then you're gonna get more sun celebrates.
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  Speaker 5: It's not gonna be all brown and gross and dry
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  Speaker 5: and smoky, hopefully fingers crossed.
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  Speaker 1: Washington looks like it's getting ready for glamour shots right now.
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  Speaker 1: I get so beautiful right now. I'm like, what is happening?
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  Speaker 1: Are you getting married?
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  Speaker 5: That drive on Steven's Pass on Monday, As long as
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  Speaker 5: it took it was so.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty gorgeous, so pretty all right?
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  Speaker 1: Are you in the middle of a divorce, Washington? Is
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  Speaker 1: that why you're getting ready for your next dating life?
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  Speaker 4: Like?
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  Speaker 1: Why you? I mean you left? You are stunning right now?
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  Speaker 5: Been working out clearly I want some of it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: ye see what Washington's doing, It's working for you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I took advantage of it last night. You've got
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  Speaker 1: me turned on Washington.
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  Speaker 5: We haven't just come up with a new promo for
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  Speaker 5: visit Washington. You're welcome.
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  Speaker 1: I'm there. I need to be the head of the
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  Speaker 1: tourism bureau around here. You've got me turned on Washington.
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  Speaker 3: What you're buying, I'm selling what you're selling, I'm buying
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  Speaker 3: the other way.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, actually they've got us coming going, let's face it.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, just gorgeous. And I guess we're eighty today
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  Speaker 1: and then goes back down to sixty and I love that. Yeah, Like,
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  Speaker 1: let's get a little spike, let's feel a little summary,
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  Speaker 1: and then let's just not get in a hurry to
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  Speaker 1: get to eighty five. Let's remind ourselves how much we
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  Speaker 1: like sixty and take it back there a couple of notches,
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  Speaker 1: and that's a perfect pace for me.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, I agree. I agree. That's why we live in
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  Speaker 3: the best place on earth.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is wonderful. All right, Well, welcome into the show.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk some sports. We got first place baseball team. Yip,
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  Speaker 1: it's just been smooth sailing all season long. And man,
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  Speaker 1: this embarrassment of riches. Oh boy, everybody else in baseball
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  Speaker 1: the envy the twenty eight and twenty nine first place
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  Speaker 1: Yeattle Mariners.
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  Speaker 3: I can imagine they would.
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  Speaker 1: Not a single thing has gone wrong, not one thing,
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  Speaker 1: exactly where we wanted to be.
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  Speaker 3: Yep. Couldn't have asked for it to go any better.
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  Speaker 5: We were at softball last night and one of the
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  Speaker 5: softball moms, Marissa, looked at me and goes, uh, Ashley, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: how are the Mariners in first place? I said, well,
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  Speaker 5: we do play in a terrible division, Merissa, that does help.
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  Speaker 5: But we swept the A's and they were at the
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  Speaker 5: top of the division, and now we are.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the reason. I mean, that is the main reason,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to look at like a pie chart,
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  Speaker 1: main reason that we're in first place is because our
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  Speaker 1: division is off to a bad start this year. I
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  Speaker 1: said yesterday, though I don't think it's going to remain
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  Speaker 1: that way as a matter of fact. And I said yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: I think by the end of the season. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: the American League West, there's not a single team with
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  Speaker 1: a winning record. Right now, in the National League Central,
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  Speaker 1: there's not a single team with a losing record.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting, I will I would make.
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  Speaker 1: A wager right now that by the end of the
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  Speaker 1: year there'll be two winning teams in each division.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a safe wage out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, I mean, again, this is why we talk about
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  Speaker 1: a long season. It is. It's a long season in
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  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. It doesn't excuse why the Mariners feel
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  Speaker 1: obligated to get off to a terrible start every year.
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  Speaker 1: And I really think that they need to figure route
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  Speaker 1: why that's happening, really have a sit down about it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm sick of it. We're all sick of it.
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  Speaker 1: We're tired of it. But what the reason we play
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  Speaker 1: these one hundred and sixty two games, Because this is
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  Speaker 1: a sport that really you do need a large amount
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  Speaker 1: of time to separate. You know, the cream will rise
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  Speaker 1: to the top. And I think that there are a
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  Speaker 1: lot of teams that are off that got off to
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  Speaker 1: some good starts, as there always are in Major League
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  Speaker 1: Baseball that are a bit fraudulent, and I think there
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  Speaker 1: are a lot more teams that got off to terrible
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  Speaker 1: starts this year that are starting to finally put the
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  Speaker 1: world in balance, because we're not the only team. Philadelphia
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  Speaker 1: Phillies got off to a horrible start, Toronto Blue Jays
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  Speaker 1: got off to a horrible start, The New York Mets, well,
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  Speaker 1: I think they're horrible, and so there are certainly a
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  Speaker 1: lot of teams that have done this and we're starting
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  Speaker 1: to see not just things course correct in the American
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  Speaker 1: League West hopefully, but I think you're seeing it throughout
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  Speaker 1: baseball as well. Philadelphia is well on their way to
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  Speaker 1: getting back to where they should probably be in this
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  Speaker 1: baseball seaven. Even Baltimore's on a tear right now. So
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  Speaker 1: it's a long season and by the you know, hopefully
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  Speaker 1: the one hundred game mark, things will feel the way
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  Speaker 1: that they should feel. And maybe the Mariners are heading
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  Speaker 1: in that direction. But there's no doubt they're in first place.
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  Speaker 1: Because the American League West as a group all off
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  Speaker 1: to rough starts so far this season, and that's the
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  Speaker 1: only way that a twenty eight and twenty nine baseball
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  Speaker 1: team could be talking about being a first place team
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  Speaker 1: on May twenty eighth, getting ready for June. So that's
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  Speaker 1: the biggest reason. But I think that there's a compliment
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  Speaker 1: in here as well to give the Mariners, even though
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  Speaker 1: they have not played complimentary baseball this year. They have
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  Speaker 1: not flattered us with the way that they've played so
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  Speaker 1: far this season, But to as Ashley and I briefly
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  Speaker 1: discussed in the nine o'clock Hour yesterday, to it pretty
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  Speaker 1: much played as bad as you possibly can based on
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  Speaker 1: the talent that I see on this roster. You know,
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  Speaker 1: everybody wants to beat up roster construction, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that you're just used to doing that because so many
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  Speaker 1: Mariner fans just don't want to believe in ownership, don't
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  Speaker 1: want to believe in front office, and that's spilled over
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  Speaker 1: into Dan Wilson here in the last year and a
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  Speaker 1: half as well. And there are certainly things to critique
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  Speaker 1: about all of those entities, but I do believe that
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  Speaker 1: we can go back to the excitement that we had
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  Speaker 1: in spring training, and that was over how balanced the
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  Speaker 1: team felt. It felt like the most balanced team that
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  Speaker 1: we'd had in years, and I think you're starting to
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  Speaker 1: see that because you could play as poorly as you
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  Speaker 1: have offensively to this point, because they've certainly underachieved, you
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  Speaker 1: could play as poorly as they have defensively to this point.
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  Speaker 1: And hopefully we're starting to figure out what needs to
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  Speaker 1: change about that, making the adjustments as we go to
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  Speaker 1: play as poorly as as you have. I think from
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  Speaker 1: the dugout, I think some of the managerial decisions have
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  Speaker 1: really struggled with, you know, early they really struggle with
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  Speaker 1: early season baseball decisions and having to factor in all
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  Speaker 1: the various things that you have to factor in at
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  Speaker 1: this time of the year. I got to rest that guy.
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  Speaker 1: I can't rest that guy. We're piggybacking today. I know
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  Speaker 1: I'm supposed to pinch hit ref Snyder here. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what to do. Rayley's three for three. I think
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  Speaker 1: there's been a lot of wrong decisions in that area.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're not hitting and not defending and not
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  Speaker 1: really making the best decisions in my opinion from an
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  Speaker 1: x's and O standpoint, from the bench, and you can
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  Speaker 1: still say that you're a game under five hundred, that
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  Speaker 1: you are in first place in your division, and oh
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  Speaker 1: by the way your superstar player has been terrible this
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  Speaker 1: year for the most part. In cal Raley, I think
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  Speaker 1: that is a tip of the cap to roster construction,
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  Speaker 1: that that is a tip of the cap to just
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  Speaker 1: how good our pitching is. And it hasn't even been great.
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  Speaker 1: It's been very good. Starting pitching has been very good.
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  Speaker 1: Bullpen's been very good. I think they could both be
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  Speaker 1: great by the end of the season. So even they
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  Speaker 1: haven't achieved to the level that I think that they
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  Speaker 1: are capable of, but they are good enough that they
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  Speaker 1: usually give you a chance to win in this sport,
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  Speaker 1: and if your pitching is given you a chance to
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  Speaker 1: win most nights, then you probably are going to end
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  Speaker 1: up with a winning record, and in this division, you
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  Speaker 1: probably are going to eventually run away with it. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna lean on this. We've
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  Speaker 1: watched them do this every damn year and I don't
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  Speaker 1: and they've done it every damn year without a roster
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  Speaker 1: this good. So to be in this position, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: feel fortuitous that you can be near five hundred, chance
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  Speaker 1: to get to five hundred tomorrow night. You can be
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  Speaker 1: in first place in a division that as a collective
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  Speaker 1: is off to a really rough start, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: think you can play worse than what you've played for
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  Speaker 1: the first fifty seven games of the year. And from
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  Speaker 1: that I will glean some encouragement because I know the
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  Speaker 1: offense is going to be better. I know that the
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  Speaker 1: defense is starting to get ironed out. Dan was better
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  Speaker 1: in the second half of his decisions last year than
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  Speaker 1: he was in the first half, so I would imagine
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  Speaker 1: we're heading in that direction again. When you just get
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  Speaker 1: down to playing baseball and trying to win games, I
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  Speaker 1: think that's where he does succeed. And I still think
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  Speaker 1: our pitching will get better. So and I know cal
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  Speaker 1: Raley's going to come back and be better than what
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  Speaker 1: cal Raley was for the first month and a half
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  Speaker 1: of the season. So from that standpoint, as frustrated as
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  Speaker 1: we've been, I don't have a lot of hair to
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  Speaker 1: pull out, but it's all gone I mean to be
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  Speaker 1: at this point, and the American League West has cooperated.
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  Speaker 1: It's an encouraging sign. And I still think, despite all
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  Speaker 1: my frustrations, despite everything I just mapped out for you there,
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  Speaker 1: that this team is going to pull away in the
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  Speaker 1: American League West and I think there'll be another team
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  Speaker 1: in the American League West with a winning record, and
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  Speaker 1: it might be the A's. It might be they're young,
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  Speaker 1: they're talented, and they're pitching is not terrible.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got some guys that can hit, Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: But I think we will. I think that I'm still
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  Speaker 1: going to satisfy my prediction for this team. Maybe they're
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  Speaker 1: not going to win as many games as I thought
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  Speaker 1: they were going to win, but I said at the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the year, this is going to be a
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  Speaker 1: lot more comfortable of a season. So I still think
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  Speaker 1: they're going to win this division with a cushion. It
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  Speaker 1: just has not felt like a first place team, that's
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  Speaker 1: for sure at this point in the year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And it was interesting yesterday's sweeping the A's. Normally it
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  Speaker 5: would be like.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, sweet, I was like, oh, thank goodness we swept them.
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  Speaker 5: Because I just felt like, I don't remember a time
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  Speaker 5: where we have needed a sweep as badly as we
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  Speaker 5: needed that sweep this at like the first half of
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  Speaker 5: the season, and that one felt like it could be
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  Speaker 5: I'm not saying the M word.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that. Yeah, no, because we don't say
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  Speaker 3: that well.
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  Speaker 1: You can say it. It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 5: No, I'm not saying it because even when I say
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  Speaker 5: they're allergic.
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  Speaker 1: To it or they hate it, well as I'm saying, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's no point for us to be afraid of our
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  Speaker 1: analysis because it doesn't affect them either way. We can
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  Speaker 1: talk about it, we cannot talk about it. They don't
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  Speaker 1: take advantage. That's true, but not at this time of
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  Speaker 1: the year.
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  Speaker 5: But it just felt like it just felt more needed
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  Speaker 5: than I remember when in the past, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And again in a long season. I don't think that
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  Speaker 1: we needed to win three games. No, no, no, I
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  Speaker 1: think I got I saw that I got criticized for
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  Speaker 1: believing that winning two out of three against the A's
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  Speaker 1: would be a good thing.
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  Speaker 4: What.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Twitter's a strange world. I'm like, of
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  Speaker 1: course I would have taken two out of three.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So I don't think I'm gonna come back and say, oh,
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: that's it.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think that we needed to sweep. But I
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: do think there's an element of I mean, it kind
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: of looked like Dan needed to to win three games.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: It kind of felt it kind of felt like the
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: organization and the clubhouse needed to be reminded Oh yeah,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: we are pretty good at this.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: When we do put things together, when we aren't kicking
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: the ball around the field, we are capable of scoring
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: runs without hitting a home run. We can string together
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: hits yea. Even in a home run friendly ballpark, we
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: can still score runs by stringing together hits in an inning,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: which has eluded this team. Oh yeah, we aren't absolutely
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: vulnerable against any left handed pitcher that they throw at us.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Some of the guys we brought over maybe they can
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: hit left handers. We saw a little bit of that.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: And the starting pitching was fantastic all three games. And
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: so maybe more than a three and oh stint in Sacramento,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: maybe what was more important is just a reminder of,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, we are pretty good at this.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: And I think you know, you bringing up the fact
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: that the lefties facing lefties twice in a row, and
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: we had talked about how we thought that was a
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: good thing to kind of just remind them that they
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: can do it. And I think it showed it was
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: a good thing. Ref Snyder did a great job with
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: that home run, and I think that's going to give
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: a boost of confidence. And I just it was a
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: nice thing to see them do it two times in
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: a row, so it wasn't a fluke on Wednesday.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Well, I think, yeah, Tuesday, and that should be momentous.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I'll say it. I'm not I don't worry about jinxing things.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: I'm putting a dollar in the MJR.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that could be momentous. I'm not saying it
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: will be. This team's not very good at it, and
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: they have a day off here, and we thought many
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: times that okay, now they're going and then they fall
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: all over themselves in the next three games at home.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: We've seen it like twice already this year, where we
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: thought for sure, hey, you're coming home, you've got some momentum,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: it's gonna it's now, it's happening, and then they just
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: crap all over themselves. But I'll start with this every time.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I'll start with, all right, three wins in a row,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: let's see if we've got a few things ironed out,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: and so a day off today, and then the Arizona
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Diamondbacks who are red hot coming into this game, coming
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: into this weekend, and so first place team will take
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: the field tomorrow night. All right, let's find out what's
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: on tap for the rest of the show.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: What's on TEP?
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: What's ontep?
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, So we will talk about the game itself, because man,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: did we learn a valuable lesson. We keep learning this
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: valuable lesson over and over and over about major League baseball.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: And hopefully the Mariners were watching what they took advantage of.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: We'll get into that coming up at six thirty. Also,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: let's see what else we got here. Yes, red hot
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Arizona is coming into town tomorrow night. I say that
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: they've won ten of their last eleven, but they have
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: played their last twelve games against the two worst teams
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: in the National League, so I don't know how that
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: worked out by the schedule makers. But they have played
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: twelve games, twelve games in a row against the Colorado
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Rockies and the San Francisco Giants, who are both lost
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: franchises right now, and so yes, they've outplayed them, Okay,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: but you haven't really faced a real baseball team in
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: a while, so I don't know if they're as red
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: hok as what their record indicates and what people are
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: leading on. They're going to face a better team even
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: though we're twenty eight and twenty nine, Arizona will be
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: facing the best team they faced in thirteen games. There's
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: no question about that. MLB labor negotiations are underway, and
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I look at this as a relief. I mean, how
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: many times in sports have we looked at something and like,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: why did you wait till the last minute to start
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: talking about this? You know, it happens all the time,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: and people do it because that's good business. You want
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: to wait till the midnight hour because you want the
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: other people to sweat, and you want to think that
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: they're up against the deadline. Well they're doing the same thing,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: do you.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a businessman. I could never be
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: a businessman. I'm not going to try to pretend to
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: be a businessman. I'm sure there are merits to it.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Wait till the midnight hour before you even start talking
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: seriously about something you know is going to be difficult
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: to resolve, and so I'm sure there are merits to it,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: and I'm never gonna get it cop to being a
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: good businessman, but I'm I do want to give Major
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: League Baseball and the Players Association some credit. They know
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: this is a really big CBA that they're going to
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: have to work out. The players know the agenda of
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: ownership and what they're going to try to get to accomplished,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: which is something they've never tried. They could never get
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: passed through, and so they have at least started negotiations
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: with that, and hopefully that means that we can have
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit of open mindedness in this process, because
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: the last thing we need in the baseball community is
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: some sort of long standing labor stoppage. And I do
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: fear it's going to happen. One way or the other.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: We're going to get it, but at least the negotiation
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: is underway, the first proposal has been sent to the
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: other side. I'm going to go ahead and lean on
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: being encouraged by that.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I'll do that too.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: College football, man, I don't even recognize this game anymore.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: But the Apple Cup this year will not only kick
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: off the season for both the Koog's and the Dogs,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: but now we've learned it's going to be played on
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: a Sunday. Does he even feel like the Apple Cup anymore?
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: No, it doesn't.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, I guess for both programs, it's good. It's
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: going to be a national game. Yeah, But five Iron
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: and I were talking about that last night. He's like,
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: it's just lost.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: A Sunday, and I know it's going to be on
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: a holiday, so you'll have the day off after.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Labor.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Pretty sure, Yea, I think that's why they're doing it
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: on a Sunday. I think I may have just made
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: that up on the spot.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think that's right.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: But I just I mean, you know what the Apple
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Cup that I knew growing up from living in the Midwest,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: to the Apple Cup that I knew as a sports
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: talk show host both nationally and locally in the West Coast,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: to the Apple Cup I was introduced to when I
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: arrived here. Yeah, it is a completely different thing than
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: what we're going to experience this year on a Sunday.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's yeah, it's the fact that it's It used
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: to matter, right because we were in the many the
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: same conference. But now it matters because it can because
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: it could be really bad for Washington or really good
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: for Wazoo, whereas before it wasn't quite quite like that.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it might be on the road to
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: not even happening, I know, which I felt for a
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: long time. But we'll talk with Christian Cable. Been a
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: long time since I chatted with that Christian Cable. You
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: want to know why, because he had babies and he
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: was watching them crawl, so he wouldn't miss it. The
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: gall that's what he did. He's been spending years, like
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: you know, Duck and me, because what if my b
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: what if my child does something for the first time
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: and I haven't seen it. Well, hopefully we figured that
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: out here this morning.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we've got her. We've reset everyone's priorities.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Seahawks OTAs continue even though Greg Bell's not been allowed
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: to watch anything. Also, Irvin Charles traded for yesterday by
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the Hawks to add to this special teams group. I
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: can't wait to talk about that with Greg and talk
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: about it amongst ourselves as well, So we'll do that
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: later on in the show. Greg will join us At
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: seven oh five. Stanley Cup Playoffs, Montreal is on the brink.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: They're down now three to one to the heavily favored
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Carolina Hurricanes. Hurricanes won easily last night, four to nothing.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I think there's just a complete difference in the quality
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: of those two teams. NBA playoffs were dark on Wednesday
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: because the Knicks are awaiting their opponent in the NBA
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Finals so Game six of the Western Conference Finals tonight,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: OKC versus San Antonio. They'll play that game in Texas.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Just had a phone conversation with my biggest Spurs fan friend.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, that makes sense, Yes, Spurs fan Frint.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's doing wonderfully, by the way, Steve so
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: LEAs you know Steveh yeh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: good news news gay. Yeah, he's wonderful. Human. Washington Mystic
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: seventy eight sixty four winners over the Storm last night.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: So that ends a moderate two game winning streak for
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the Storm as they fall by fourteen. And the World
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Cup will begin first match on June eleventh. So I've
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: been saying two weeks for several days now. It's because
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I can never figure out a soccer calendar. Ever, you could,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: you could test me on at a thousand times. I'll
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: never learn.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I think we are now, Like really.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep saying two weeks.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we are two weeks actually exactly two weeks,
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: two weeks from today.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: It is Thursday, June eleventh.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Doesn't matter tomorrow, I'm gonna say two weeks.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well it'll be just under. So it's basically two weeks.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for the next two weeks, I can say two weeks.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: So I'm so I'm gonna say, okay, So World Cup
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: starts June eleventh. You do the math. Mariner's Morning After
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: comes your way. Yes, I'm gonna tell you about the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: two most important plays of this series. Sports Radio ninety
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: three point three kJ R FM.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Much earlier than most.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Two.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Well, this is torched deep left center field and gone.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Plio Rodriguez with a bob three run tank in the
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: eighth his eighth home run this month.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Aaron Goldsmith and Angie Mensinca on the call. Angie, come on,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: you need to You need to predict when Julio's gonna
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: hit a home run. Stop telling stories while he's hitting homers.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Get it together, girl, it would make my life easier.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Mariners win yesterday over the A's by a final score
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: of nine to one. They have swept the A's and
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: just like the well oiled machine they've been since the
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: start of the year, they surge into first place, first place, just.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Like we knew they could do. Yeah, we had this
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: feeling last week.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: Right when on Sunday night after they lost to the Royals.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Boy, yeah, well, I thought, don't worry. By Thursday, they'll
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: be in first.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: You know, you have a vision in your head about
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: how something's gonna go, and then when it happens exactly
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: how you hoped.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Well that's really satisfying.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: First place in a game under five hundred, like we
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: drew it up.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Thanks Mariners. You always keep it interesting
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: even when you're frustrating the hell out of us. Mariners
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: are just twenty eight and twenty nine on the year,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: certainly a far cry from what we thought they were
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: capable of for their first fifty seven games of the season.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: But maybe we should just accept the fact that the
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Mariners don't start playing good baseball until late May, maybe
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: even really June or July. That's kind of been in
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: the past. But lo and behold, even with their sub
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: five hundred record because of the rough season, that all
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: teams in our division are off to the Mariners with
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: their sweep of the then first place as have moved
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: to the top of the standing. So here we said
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: at twenty eight and twenty nine, chance to get to
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: five hundred on Friday night at home against the Arizona Diamondbacks.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: But I'm going to choose to view this as a
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: positive thing. I don't think this team could play worse
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: than they have through their first fifty seven games of
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the year, and yet they're still a first place team
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: and a day away from not having a losing.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: Record, and I would love to see that be two
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: games over five hundred by Monday.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just sweep the Diamondbacks. Why not. Let's let
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: the winning streak start now.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I do believe they'll pull away eventually. I don't
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: know if that's going to be just yet, but you know,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think everything's ironed out. A lot of wrinkles
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: to this dress, it's true, but I do think that
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: they will pull away eventually, but it probably will happen
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: somewhere beyond June when they start doing that. But it
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: is a sweep of the A's and that feels good.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: The team hit, not just hit throughout the series, but
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: hit against left handed pitching throughout the series, which is
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: a great sign going forward because that's probably been the
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: number one weakness of this team so far this year.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: And the starting pitching fantastic. And Sacramento because that is
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: a hitters ballpark there that is a minor League Park,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and most of the a's pitchers don't even want to
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: pitch there because it's so hit her friendly. And yet
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: our three starters went out there and mode fools down.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: So nine to one the final score yesterday, teams twenty
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: eight and twenty nine on the year, they are first
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: place team. They'll have the day off today to just
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: celebrate that. Yeah, just soak it all in. Boys, and
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the red hot Arizona Diamondbacks are in town on Friday.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: They have won five straight, ten of their last eleven,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: and yet they've played terrible competition during that stretch, So
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know how red hot the Diamondbacks actually are.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: We'll talk more about that on tomorrow's show. But the
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: first for the rest of your headlines brought to you
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: by Frost Brewed Corps, Light Shoes, Chill. The Apple Cup
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: is going to be played on a Sunday this year.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: We found that out yesterday. It just keeps looking nothing
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: like that annual rivaled tradition that all of you grew
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: up with, loved, hated, whatever the case may be. We'll
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: talk to Christian Capele about that at nine o'clock on
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: the radio show Seahawks OTAs continued yesterday. They also made
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: a trade for special teams menace Irvin Charles from the
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: New York Jets for a seventh round draft pick. We'll
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: talk more about that with Greg here in a matter
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: of seconds. Stanley Cup Playoffs, the Montreal Canadians are on
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: brink of elimination. They were down three. They're down three
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: to one after losing to Carolina four nothing last night.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: NBA playoffs were dark yesterday, so tonight you'll have Game
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: six of the Western Conference Finals between the Oklahoma City
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Thunder and the San Antonio Spurs, and they will play
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: that game in Texas. The Storm had their two game
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: winning streak up ended last night by the Washingtonistics, who
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: are not very good, seventy eight to sixty four the
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: final score. So the Storm sit at three and five
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: on the year, and we are, according to Ashley anyway,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: two weeks away from the World Cup, which will begin
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: on the eleventh of.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: June, two weeks from today, two weeks from today.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: You can say two weeks from tomorrow as well.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be two weeks into the World Cup,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm still going to report that we're two weeks.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Away from the World and you know. I like that
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: for you.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be consistent about it.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: That's what we're all, That's all we're ever asking for,
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: is consistency.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: All right, Time to talk to Greg then, our Seahawks insider.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: All right, back on the airwaves yesterday. I know how
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: much you missed Chris Kid, and so they celebrated it
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: for two hours yesterday right here at ninety three three
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: KJR dot com. And now he's back with us for
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: a second straight day as well. Good morning, Greg, Good morning.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: How are you doing. How you feeling great? Do you
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: have a cold or are you just filled with water
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: in your head from your surfing expedition.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: I have a cold. This is what happens when you
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: go no sleep for a week and fly across the country.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: That was as soon as I got on the plane,
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: I'm going to get sick because I yeah, I didn't
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: sleep much. Graduation, a week for my daughter back east,
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: a lot of runner around.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: So yeahright, sick, okay, all right, all right, well feel better?
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Feel better? All right? Well let's dive into it. Yesterday
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: there was a trade Irvin Charles, now part of the
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Seahawks for a conditional seventh round in twenty twenty eight.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Tell us what Irvin Charles brings to the table for
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: John Schneider's Seattle Seahawks.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Well, it's another move to bolster what was the best
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: special teams unit in the league last year. You know,
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: they drafted last month Emmanuel Henderson in the sixth round
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: out of Kansas to be a gunner outside special teams
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: guy on punt teams, also be a punt returner. This
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: trades also for special teams. Irvin his first two seasons,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: he's undrafted, played at Indiana University of Pennsylvania plus ten
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: State for a little bit and was undrafted in twenty
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: twenty three, played for the Jets and excelled in special
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: teams and that's how rookies make the specially undrafted rookies
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: make an NFL team. So he had to be really impressive,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: and he was for the Jets, and he for two
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: seasons did die and then at the end of his
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: second season, week fourteen, he toured the ACL on his knee.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: He hasn't played since, so he's gone out of the
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Jets plans and they were to cut him that appeared.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: So the Seahawks is something of a flyer. When you
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: give a conditional last round pick. You're saying, Okay, you're
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: gonna cut him anyway. We'll take him, and if he
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: becomes something that makes plays and does actually gets on
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: the field and does something for us, we'll owe you
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: that pick. If he does nothing for us, he doesn't
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: make the team, we don't know you much of anything.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: And that's what the conditional nature of this trade is.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: So they have Henderson, they have someone that can potentially
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: compete with him now in urban Charles, and so it
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: goes a lot of people think that special teams is
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: time to go to the bathroom and the refrigerator. The
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Seahawks see it as another chasing edges thing, as Mike
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: McDonald causle it and Jay Harvard, the special teams coach,
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: pretty innovative in his schemes, and they're going to get guys.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, they've spent fifty one million on special teams
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: when they re signed their Pro Bowl punt returner. So
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: this is a big deal to them and they're adding
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: to it. Yeah.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I find it very interesting. I mean, we have my
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: home run on every week and he backs up and
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: supports the theory that pretty much everybody in football hates
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: kickers and punters. And I know that some of it's
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: done tongue in cheek. I realize that, but there's a
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: little bit of truth in there too. They just frustrate
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the heck out of them. They're different than everybody else
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: on the roster. And then Hugh does this great breakdown
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: of you know, special teams is not a third of it.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I think it's probably more like twenty percent. And even
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: though it's the third phase, it's not an equal phase
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: to offense and defense. And I tend to agree. I
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: tend to walk to that beat that Hugh mellan plays
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: for us when it comes to special teams. But we've
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: also heard every head coach, whenever given the opportunity to
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: discuss it, always brings up how important special teams are,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: and yet maybe don't invest in it. And here's John
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Schneider and Mike McDonald saying we're going to invest in it.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Why suddenly do they seem this determined to have the
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: best special teams in the National Football League.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Well, it's suddenly, and it's not because they traded up
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: to get Michael Dixon. They've given him what has now
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: become the second highest punter salary in the league. They've
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: resigned Jason Myers a couple times now to making one
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: of the highest kickers in the league, and both of
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: them are two of the best of what they do
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: in the entire football They what Mike, what Pete Carroll
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: used to do is at times put starters. I mean
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Richard Sherman used to return punch for them early in
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: his career, but would would use it as a proving ground.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: Doug Baldwin Jermaine Kurtz to name two undrafted guys who
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: became stars on the team through special teams. First they
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: used Carroll used it as a competition proving ground. Mike
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: McDonald has taken special teams. He's got a ton of
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: analytics on field position and Michael Dixon, for instance, punting
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: from midfield instead of punting from the minor thirty or
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: minus thirty five yard line, which means how important a
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: running game and getting a first down or two in
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: each drive is to your success on defense, and we've
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: seen them. Week eighteen against the forty nine Ers was
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: a prime example. McDonald didn't think the forty nine ers
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: offense could drive the field against his defense and score touchdowns,
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: so he played rope a dope field position from the
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: first drive. Remember they went for it on fourth down
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: inside the five yard line on the first drive of
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: the game. They didn't get it, and everyone's like, what
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: are they doing? Well, McDonald said, even if I don't
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: get this first down. He told me this after the game,
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: He said, even if I don't get this first down,
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: I like our chances with our defense with ninety five
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: yards for the opponent. That's try to drive the score touchdown.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: And he played the whole game that way and they
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: won thirteen to three. The game plan against San Francisco
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: to win the NFC West and get the number one
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: seed in the conference playoffs in Week eighteen last year
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: was get first downs to midfield and then either punt
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: or make big try to make your big play, big
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: splash plays down the field the pass game from the
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: fifty yard line. It worked. They won thirteen to three,
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: and it wasn't really that close because the forty nine
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: ers only had one chance to score a touchdown the
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: whole game, and largely not a whole It was a
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: little different, but largely that was the Super Bowl game.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Playing against the Patriots, he used special teams to keep
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: the Patriots backed up inside their own twenty five yard
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: line the whole game and said, there's no way Drake
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: may is going to run this offense down my defense's
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: throat to score touchdowns. And they won easily. It should
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: have been twenty nine hing then at twenty nine thirteen
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: at the end with garbage points. That's how important special
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: teams is to him. And he's had all kinds of
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: numbers to show. If I can have guys who can
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: punt cover punts to keep returners from getting yards after
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: the return and I can gain I can go trade
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: for with John Schneider trading, I go trade for the
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: best returner and get plush yards on kickoffs and punts.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: With Rashid Shaheed, I'm going to win because of my defense.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: And he won the Super Bowl in the biggest regular
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: season game of last year. It turned out consequentially wise
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: doing just exactly that. That's how important special teams is.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm a little surprised, and we need to
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: move on from this topic because I want to get
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: into another big topic with you. But I'm a little
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: surprised that. I mean, this league's a copycat league. Every
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: time there's a new offense, and that offense looks successful,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: six teams try to duplicate or make a version of
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: that the very next year with their hirings that they have.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Or if there's a breakthrough defense, you know, usually there's
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: five teams that try to have that same breakthrough defense
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: or a version of it the following year. And here
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks win a Super Bowl unexpectedly, at least based
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: on the way the season started last year, and they
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: did it in large part not for being strong on
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: special teams. And we did not see that copycat exercise
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: taking place this offseason throughout the National Football League. But
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: perhaps that's more of a topic for another day. I
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: want to get into ownership with you. What's going on
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: on that front. We've gone from an ice cold market
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: to a red hot market all of a sudden.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Well it depends what you believe, but it took until
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: the first week of May for multiple bidders to arise,
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: and once multiple bidders emerged, then the sale could proceed.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: You can't have a sale for the highest possible price,
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: which is what the Paul Gallen Trust demands that Joey
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Allen sell to. You can't have the price drive up
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: and really have a sale unless you have competing bids,
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: multiple competing bids, and they didn't have that until the
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: beginning of Mark that May. Now it's not that long
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: since they went on for sale at the end of February,
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: officially until the beginning of May. But once potential buyers
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: emerged with competing bids, then all of a sudden, the
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: market takes because now you have a competition and you
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: can drive up the price. And now the talk is
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: it could go ten billion or more. Ten billion is
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: the record for North American sports franchises. The Lakers, the
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: Bus family sold it to the investment group, but by
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Mark Walker Walker Walter. Excuse me. It's like Matthow Mark
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: Walter last year and the NBA prew got in the
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: fall for ten billion. That's an North American record. The
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: NFL record is six billion. It looks like this could
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: push ten billions. So last night on Pat McAfee's and
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: a ESPN show, Ian Rappaport reports that the market is
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: quote robust, and then he thinks he's been told by
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: people in the league that the owners could have a
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: meeting in August. Now that usually comes from ownership circles
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: because if the league thinks of sales about to happen,
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: they will get it done to try to get all
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: the franchise evaluation set as soon as they can, so
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: if there's an imminent choosing of bids, they'll have a
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: meeting to vote on which bid to take. And Rapaport
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: thinks that could happen as early as August, and he
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: said last night on the air that he thinks there's
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: a possibility the Seahawks are sold before the season beginning.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: Of course, that's September ninth. The only two known groups
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: we've heard of in the last three weeks. Sportiget reported
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: that Adida mattal and with Grossbeck grossbec We used to
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: be the primary owner of the Boston Celtics Batall. He's
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: an Indian steel magnet who contributed to that bid with
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: he was a co owner of the Celtics. Then those
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: two had one bid and then a few hours later
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: that same day, May seventh. Then A Kosha is a
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: billionaire Sun Microsystems guy from the Silicon Valley who last
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: year took bottom minority stake in San Francisco forty nine ers.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: He'd have to divest from that by the league rules.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: He can't own two teams, so he'd have to divest
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: from that and wouldn't be a big deal because he's
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: a minority stakeholder. He's worth Karsho's worth over fourteen billion dollars.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Forbes says, So, now you have your two competing bids,
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Now you have a market. Now you can command a price,
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: which is what Jody Allen has been charged to do
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: by your brother's trust. That's where this all came from.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: If you only have one bidder, you really don't have
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: a competition. And now that there's two, the market suddenly
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: becomes hot.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: All right, So help me understand it? Maybe I should,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: maybe I should already understand it. But how much of
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: this is the NFL weighing in on who they sell
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: it to? And how much does Jody Allen and the
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Allen Trust have say? And who do you sell it to?
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: And I'm asking that because I would think Jody Allen
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: wants to control like the character of the person that
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: she's giving it to. Where I wonder if the NFL
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: just would want top dollar. So and maybe it's vice versa.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we got to worry about it being vice versa.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: So how who gets to actually get the way in
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: on gets to who gets to buy the team, and
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: then what do you will it just go to the
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: top bidder, because that's when Seahawk fans start to worry
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: that you've sold to the wrong guy, who's going to
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: come in here and try to change everything because he's
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: an egomaniac.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Well, it's both because first, as I understand the language
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: in Paul Allen's will to selling the Blazers and the Seahawks,
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: it's highest bidder to drive the highest price, because remember,
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: these sales aren't going to Jody Allen's pockets, They're going
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: to the philanthropic interest to Paul Allen. All the things
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: that he's selling, all of it, the sea exploration, the
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: space exploration, his third World healthcare issues, all of the
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: things that Paul Allen had and are selling are supposed
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: to go to his philanthropic interest, not for profit. So
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: that makes this somewhat unique in professional sports. Normally, you
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: drive the price up as high as you can because
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: you sold it for a certain price and you want
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: to drive it as much value out of it as
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: you can. Think Howard Schultz and the Sonics. Before I
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: turn off the rest of your audience in one word.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: But that's what you do now. Having said that, the
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: NFL is a very select old white men's basically there's
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: a few exceptions, but white men's boys club think Jerry Jones,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: I think Robert Kraft. They want people who are exactly
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: a certain type, who can hang at the country club,
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: in the yacht clubs and be their guys. They don't
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: need any renegades or people that aren't thinking like they do.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: By and large, they are a couple exception Jacksonville Jaguars
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: in front of them. But that's basically the cut and
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: mold they want to keep so that they can have
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: this really close net like minded ownership corps. I mean,
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: there aren't a lot of ten billion dollar dollars people
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: walking around and the will invest in the NFL team.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: And ultimately, to your point, the NFL owners, by ratifying
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: the sale, have the final say on who they approve
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: for the Seahawks sale. But I can tell you that
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: the Paul Allen family, Jody Allen, the legacy that the
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: Allens have built here owning the Seahawks for going on
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: thirty years is so respected around the league that they
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: will defer to the Jody Allen's decision, in her lawyer's decision,
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: and who's going to sell this team by this team?
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: And of course the expectation it is for the highest
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: market price, so every other franchise valuation can go up to. Yeah,
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: well I hope, but I hear you, because if you're
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: in Portland right now listening to this year, like wait
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: a minute, the Clouds show that just bought the Blazers
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: just talking about not being able to afford T shirts
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: and cutting people a lot of going to playoff trips,
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: I don't want that. And see I get it.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, are we just going to vet? Are we just
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: going to vet a guy so that he can cover
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: the bill? I would like for it to be vetted.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: I think every Seahawks fan wants to be vetted. Beyond that,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: what kind of owner are we going to get?
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: I asked Bert Cole at the Super Bowl about this,
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: and mainly it was in the lens of how can
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: you assure Seahawks fans that whoever buys the team wouldn't
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: think of moving it? And he said, well, I can't
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: just come out into the blanket statement of that, but
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: I can say this, Greg, Paul Allen and his family
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: when they bought the Seahawks to beginning buying the Seahawks
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: in eineteen ninety seven. Have done it as a trust
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: of the Pacific Northwest in the community, and we aren't
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: going to portray that trust in so many words. That's
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: what he told me in the San Jose Comments and
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: Center meeting at a press conference with Roger Goodell on
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: the Tuesday of the Super Bowl. So, if I take
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: him at his word, he's a vice chair right with
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: Jody Allen betting these bids. If I take him out
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: his word, he's going to have an eye on the
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: very concern you're talking about.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Right, all right, what do you got for the show today?
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: We're going to do. We're going to talk more about
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: this sale. We're going to talk about the competing bid
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: process and why this has all of a sudden become warm,
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: and expand on that. At eleven o'clock we entire to
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: Keith McPherson. He used to be a WFA and radio
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: host in New York. He now has his own online
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: Mike Check Sports Talk. So he's going to talk about
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: the Knicks haven't been this first time they've been in
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: the NBA finals since nineteen ninety nine, of course, and
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: how viable are the next to win the NBA. A
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: lot of people think whoever wins the West is going
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: to win it, neither Spurs or Thunderson. We'll talk to
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: them at eleven and go from there.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, thank you sir, We appreciate it. We'll
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: be listening at ten and we'll talk to you again tomorrow.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: All right, happy players there?
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: All right, Greg Bell are Seahawks in signer. You can
• 46:59
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• 47:02
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• 47:05
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• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Coming up next, Yes, we've already talked about the Mariner
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: sweep in Sacramento, the fact that they surged the first
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: place in the American League West fifty seven games into
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: the season. But we've got some other things to discuss
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: as well, including JP Crawford and what his future holds
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: now that Colt Emerson looks like he is here to stay.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that next on Sports Radio ninety three
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: point three KJRFM. All good morning to you, No, no, no,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: let me correct that great.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: Morning to you.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Makes a big difference right there.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we like to taking another step on this show.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: We don't like to do half measures. Why would we
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: wish you just to go? Yes, we want the best
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: for you, which is all you want out of a friend, lover.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: And a confidant, a parent.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you can't bring anything else to the table,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: you just want those people to want the best for you.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: That's what you've got in Ashley, all I want. Yeah.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Good morning, actually, great morning, Chuck Ashley with you coming
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: up a little bit later on in the show. Christian
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Capele is going to join us at nine o'clock talk
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: about the Apple Cup being moved, also something that we'll
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: discuss ourselves a little bit later on in this radio program.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: But Mariners win it last night by or yesterday afternoon
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: by a final score of nine to one. So they
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: sweep the A's and roll in to today knowing that
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: they are a first place team. Despite the frustrating start
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: to their season fifty seven games in, still a game
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: under five hundred and yet in the water down thus
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: far americanly West. They are top dog right now, moving
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: past the A's, let's see if they can get on
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: a heater going forward. Obviously, JP Crawford has been at
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: the heart of a lot of our conversations, and I've
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: been critical. I will even admit. I mean, we had
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: a segment Ashley and I a week and a half
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: ago called fair or Unfair, where I was I know
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: that I've been at times even cross the line in
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: my criticism, Like there have been times where I've at
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: least brushed upon being unfair toward JP. And sometimes that
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: happens to a talk show host. You know, you get
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: animated and you're getting worked up a little bit, you're
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: all lathered up, and you're criticizing somebody, and sometimes you
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: push it a little too far and you may say
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: something that you shouldn't have said. But nonetheless, I think
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: what has been made abundantly clear is that I've been
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: very critical of JP Crawford, and I think deservedly so.
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: Frankly, Ashley, yeah, I do think he's earned criticism.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: This year.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: He has not been I wouldn't even say perfect, because
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: we don't expect anyone to be perfect, right, but he
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: has not been very good at shortstop. He has made
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: quite a few errors, and then he isn't making up
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: for it at the plate consistently.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: I agree. I think that's well said. That puts it
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: in a nutshell right there. Now, we did commend him
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: yet last week praised him quite thoroughly throughout the course
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: of an entire show for his gesture, his self awareness,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: his announcement last week that hey, maybe cold Emerson's the
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: best guy for this job at shortstop, but I would
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: like to be given a chance at third because all
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: I want to do is play, and I want to
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: be a Mariner for life, and I want a World
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: one and World championship with this team this year. And
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: we love that and that is a part of JP Crawford.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Now you get why he is beloved in that locker room,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: why he's the guy that holds the trident for everybody.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, they all think the world in that locker
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: room of JP Crawford, and that's valuable. That certainly is valuable.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: And yet he needs to play better, there's no question
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: about it. And we did see an outstanding play from
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: him yesterday defensively at shortstop. And there is some thought about,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe those throwing errors that he's made this
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: season have everything to do with him being banged up.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Right now, something's not right with JP defensively, and so
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: I brought this up to Ryan Healey, and I brought
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: it up from this standpoint like, Okay, that's nice that
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: he's going to volunteer his position. Eventually, I thought that's
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: would have already happened to cold Emerson at shortstop. But
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I asked Ryan, who played, of course, third base in
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: a large part of his major league career, what makes
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: us think he's got a strong enough arm to play
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: third base. Here's Ryan Healey.
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: Well, first off, these none of these guys are playing
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: one hundred percent healthy. I know JP has got a
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: couple hit by pitches off of that right arm being
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: a left handed hit or that that right arm is leading.
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: And no matter how many pads you have on that
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: throwing arm, like, you can still find some soft spots.
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: And there I think he's gotten smoked in the tricep
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: a little bit. I think he got one, and like
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: the lower lat and all of those muscles were contributing
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: to throwing. I think JP had always contributed his arm
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: strength to his footwork through the baseball, and that's hard
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: to do it third base with just how quickly the
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: ball gets on you.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: But it doesn't mean you can't do it.
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: I know we've probably seen some Brendan Donovan struggles at
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: third base this year because of the lack of arm
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: strength and the ability to have a rifle like Matt
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: Chapman where you can sit back on the ball and
• 52:32
  Speaker 6: then just let one rip. I remember watching him do
• 52:34
  Speaker 6: that for a lot of years, and it was really
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: frustrating because I didn't have that arm either. But I
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: know that I know that he would be serviceable over there,
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: but there are definitely some certain plays going to his
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: backhand side towards the line, and if he ends up
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: taking that negative route, be tough. But I don't remember
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: Kyle Seger having an absolute cannon over there. He was
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: just really good at moving through the baseball. Then his
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: transfer was super clean, and also he was just beyond
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: accurate with this throws thrown from multiple arm angles.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: So it's doable.
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: Are they willing to experiment with that in the middle
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: of a major league season when they're already under five
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: hundred I don't know, yeah, And I think that's probably
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: the biggest question mark right now. And the reason why
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: we haven't seen it executed yet is because they're uncertain
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: right now as well.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: You're that you've been around the team, so J that's
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Ryan Healy on the JP Crawford yesterday or Tuesday and
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: his arm strength. So I don't know if that gives
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: me any comfort. Obviously they're gonna go cold Emmerson as
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: short stop. I don't know why it's taking so long.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I guess that there's an element of just JP doesn't
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: feel quite comfortable there. I mean, when they surprise Cayl
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Ripkin like you're not gonna play shortstop anymore. He pretty
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: much went from short stop to third after like one
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: round of infield.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: I keep checking the lineup every day to see if
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: it's changed, and it hasn't.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm sure they're not. I mean, I know
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: they're not making the change because JP doesn't feel comfortable
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: enough at third yet, because obviously Colt has been playing
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: shortstop all season long for Tacoma and been playing it right,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: very well, and so it's not about Colt. Colt's ready
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: to move to shortstop, but it's so they're clearly not
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: making the move because JP's not ready to move to third,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: even though he is mentally ready to do it. He's
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: announced it to the world like emotionally ready to do it.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Apparently he's not physically ready to make that move.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: That makes me more nervous.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I think that maybe that maybe okay,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: maybe he's emotionally ready, maybe he's not mentally ready, but
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll ever be physically ready. And
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: this is going to be an interesting, an interesting decision.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: And obviously we just went through this piggyback situation where
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: again I don't think it is a terrible idea. I
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: didn't think that going in. I thought it was a
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: really interesting idea. And again it has not been a disaster,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: even though a lot of people are trying to paint
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: it that way. But if there have been two flaws
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: with the piggyback, it is Ah, maybe we learned a
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: lesson that in a one run game we kind of
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: have to throw the piggyback rules out and then just
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: go with the rules we usually are governed by when
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: in one run games. And then the second thing that
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: we learned is, hey, if we're going to do this
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: to two established starting pitchers, especially one of the leaders
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: in the clubhouse, maybe we should have a conversation and
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: make sure they both understand.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like that they could recite it back to us
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: what the plan is.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, maybe we should have been a little more
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: thorough about letting Bryce and Luis in on exactly what
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: we were doing, how we're going to do it, and
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: why we are doing it. And yet we're going to
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: have another wind of these decisions coming up. Actually, Brendan
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Donovan's going to be back soon. He was not great
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: defensively at third base, but he was much better offensively
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: than JP has been this season. And frankly, if JP's
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: got cold feet now about making that movie, if he
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel quite comfortable, Donovan was getting better at third
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: base with every game that he played over there. And
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: so we are once again gonna have this moment where
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Donovan's gonna come off the injury list and they're gonna
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: have to make a decision on what you do with JP. Crawford.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Cold Emerson has not been overwhelmed by the moment. He's
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: hitting and we already know he's faster than JP, he's
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: better defensively than JP. He's got a stronger arm than JP.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Cold Emerson should be our shortstop right now. So if
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: JP wants to play third, that's one thing. Can he
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: play third? We haven't found out yet. When are we
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: going to find out? Because don't we have to find
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: out before Donovan gets activated from the injury list, And
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: what if he can't play third? What is JP's role
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: going forward? Because there's no way you're keeping Brendan Donovan's
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: bat out of this lineup for JP Crawford. And that
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: is the part about all of this that really needs
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: to be announced. I like valuing leader in a clubhouse
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: in baseball, I think it gets undervalued. I think this organization,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: I think this front office has been guilty of undervaluing
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: chemistry absolutely clubhouse leadership. I think they've been guilty of
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: it many times. And yet it's still first and foremost
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: about who's the right guy for the job. I'm not
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: sure there's a place for JP if Donovan comes back,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: he's your third baseman, and I don't think JP in
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: his two to twelve batting average and his sub seven
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: hundred ops and the fact that he's striking out. He
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: struck out thirty six times in forty eight games, which
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: is not JP Like.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got a better eye than that.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: The J JP we need to have if he's going
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: to occupy one of the nine spots in the everyday lineup.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: It can't be the one that is trying to hit
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: a home run and we'll top out at twenty this year.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I don't need that JP. What I need is the
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: guy that gets on base thirty eight percent of the
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: time because he's got a great eye, that puts the
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: ball in play like he did yesterday, and that might
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: lead to a few a couple. You know, he had
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: three hits yesterday just by he didn't sting the ball,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: just putting the ball in play.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: That's all you got to do.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: But he also struck out two times yesterday. So I
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: don't need the JP that hits home runs and strikes out.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I need the one that gets walks, puts the ball
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: in play, and sprays the ball around the field. Because
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: we also no longer have the JP that has good
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: foot speed. He is titanically slow, like he was going
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: to be out by fifteen feet. If Jeff McNeil made
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: the right play yesterday at second base and didn't try
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: to throw it to first and get Josh Naylor and
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: throw it into the dugout, that was the most important
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: play of the game because it led to a Rob
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Resnier three run homer, which we should have never had
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to do. But even Jeff McNeil was like, hey,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: it's a shortstop getting a lead off first. There's no
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: way I have a shot at getting him at second.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: And not only did you have a shot, you had
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: him out by a mile, by a country mile, by
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: a furlong, you had JP Crawford out at second base.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: So he's not bringing much to the table right now
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: beyond leadership. And if you're can't field, and you can't throw,
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: and you aren't putting the ball in play consistently, I'm
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: not sure I can fight for you to have a
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: spot in our starting nine once all things are equal.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: So JP, nice gesture last week, and I'm glad because
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: you've opened the door for the kid, the better shortstop,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: to take over for the rest of the season. But
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: I just ashlely, I just can't envision like it's a
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: lock that JP stays in our lineup anywhere.
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: No, And I don't think that he thinks that, which
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: is why he's volunteering. Part of why he's volunteering as
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: well move over to third because he said I'll do anything.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: To help this team.
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: I do think after after the fact that this came
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: out last week and now we're a week later and
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: he still hasn't moved a third makes me pretty sure
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: that he was the one that went to the team
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: and said, hey, I want to do this, versus them
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: coming to him and saying, hey, what do you think
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: about trying this out?
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: Because I think it seems like they don't have.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: A lot of confidence in his ability to play third,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: or he'd already be there. Yeah, And so I do
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: think then again, that gives him more credit for the
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: leadership thing, which I know is not the most important thing,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: but it is because the fact that he it seems
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: like he did go do that on his own and
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: talked to his agent and didn't wait for the team
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: to come to him and tell him something. It does
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: worry me for him that there isn't a spot, like
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: you said, especially because I just would have expected to
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: see him, As I said, I checked the lineup every day.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, is today the day the JP's at third? Nope? Nope,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: again he's not. And I don't know how long they're
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: going to wait.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: I mean there was I mean Brenda Donovan's most success
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: as a Major League baseball player has been as a
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: super utility player with the Saint Louis Cardinals, and there
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: might be a decision that, hey, we can use Brendan
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Donovan and he can play most every day, maybe not
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: every day, but most every day, and he might play
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: some left field, and he might play some right field,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: and we got the DH spot that we can use
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: him in. Maybe he get I mean Cole Young never
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: gets a day off. Maybe he gets a day off
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: at second base Cole every once in a while. And
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: then of course, yes, he can play third base as well.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: So I can see that where you might say, hey,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: after further review, Brendon Donovan might be best for us
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: as a super utility player, and then that opens up
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: third base for JP Crawford. But we keep delaying seeing
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: JP Crawford play third base. I would like to get
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a sample size because right now
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine he's going with that arm banged up
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: the way that it is, that he's going to be
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: a better option at third base than what Donovan is
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: going to be. And then if Donovan comes back, are
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: we then going to give JP his trial a third
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: once Donovan returns.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: It seems weird.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Because that seems weird to be doing that in the
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: middle of a you know, you're trying to win a division.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: And then if Donovan is your third baseman, how does
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: JP play over Dom Canzone as DH or Luke Rayley
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: as DH.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: I just I don't see the argument for it.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: I don't see it either, So I don't know what
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: role that he has on the team. So you know,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: I've been hyper critical of him this year. That segment
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: we just completed or getting ready to wrap up, has
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: been hyper critical of him.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's unfair.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's unfair. And I was complimentary of
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: what his gesture was last week, But pretty much that's
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: all it is. At the end of the day, are
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: you good enough to play every day for us or not?
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: And I would love to see it work.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: I really sure, And I'm glad you said that, yeah,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: because that's the same is.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you can be hypercritical, but you're not wishing bad
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: on him. You're just pointing out facts as you know,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: where is he going to fit in and how is
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: he going to contribute. I would love nothing more than
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: for him to go to third and it to be
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: the best decision this team's made.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: I would love that.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: I want Jp to be able and his last year
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: as a Mariner, because I think it is to be
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: able to play every day on a World championship team'd
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: be awesome. I would love to see that. But what
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: is going to be required of him is I need
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: an arm that can make the throw from third or short. Yeah,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: And then if you're going to be a DH, I
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: can't have strikeout twenty homer hitter, JP Crawford. I need
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: three seventy five on base, puts the ball in play
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: almost every time, gives me a quality at bad almost
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: every time, JP Crawford, and I'm not getting that either.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: So he's kind of in a race against the clock
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: number one to get to third base to show if
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: he can play that position before Donovan is activated. And
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: then secondly he's he's also in a race against the
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: clock offensively to prove that he's worthy of playing every
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: day on a team envisioning winning a World Series this year.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: And I don't know when Donovan's coming back because they
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: never give us updates on injuries. My gosh, it's like
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: being allowing a college football program. But according to CBS Sports,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Brendan Donovan is expected to come back June fifth.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: There we go.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: We are.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: A week away, a little over a week away yeh
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: from Brendan Donovan being activated. That's how long you have
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: And we haven't watched JP play one pitch.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: And maybe they'll do it. Stand this weekend.
• 1:04:45
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• 1:05:19
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• 1:05:37
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• 1:05:39
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• 1:05:47
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• 1:06:00
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• 1:06:04
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  Speaker 1: Colin Ray is a country music artist. You probably know
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  Speaker 1: that already. Maybe you couldn't name one of his songs,
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  Speaker 1: but you know something, Love Me in this Life, little Rock.
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  Speaker 1: It's got all sorts of hits.
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  Speaker 3: As it turns out, a boy and a girl. We
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  Speaker 3: got a text or text us about that one.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if you want to take a boy and a girl,
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  Speaker 1: you can do that. You actually have to purchase one
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  Speaker 1: more ticket, but I will give you two of those
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  Speaker 1: for free here on the radio program today. Colin Ray
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  Speaker 1: June fourth at Talalap Resort Casino. Tickets are available to
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  Speaker 1: see the nineties country legend with all of his hits
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  Speaker 1: out there at t Lalup at the Orca ball Room.
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  Speaker 1: And we've been giving away a pair of tickets every
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  Speaker 1: day all week long, and we'll do it again and
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  Speaker 1: We're going to do it the exact same way. We're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna complicate The four nine, four or five one
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  Speaker 1: is the text line. So if you would like to
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  Speaker 1: see Colin Ray in concert at Talala Resort Casino June fourth,
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  Speaker 1: then go ahead and send us a text saying that
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  Speaker 1: you're interested, and then Ashley will pick one at random
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  Speaker 1: to go to that show. Now, I would just ask
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  Speaker 1: you this, I would urge you to do this. There's
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  Speaker 1: no way to govern this, but make sure you can go, yes,
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  Speaker 1: make sure you want to go, make sure you're interested
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  Speaker 1: in going. You need to start at really wanting to go,
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  Speaker 1: because by the time it rolls around and you're tired
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  Speaker 1: from work and celebrating my birthday that day you're going,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna drop a little bit. You're probably not gonna
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  Speaker 1: be as excited by the time because you're just worn
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  Speaker 1: out by life. So you need to start at a
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  Speaker 1: position of I really want to go, and you will
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  Speaker 1: end up at I want to go.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. That works.
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  Speaker 1: So, and the reason we stress that is because we
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  Speaker 1: don't want you to take it away from somebody that
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  Speaker 1: really does want to go.
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  Speaker 3: Right, because we're picking one person randomly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, This isn't just a competition to beat all of
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  Speaker 1: the KJR listeners to tickets. Nope, this is I really
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  Speaker 1: want to see Colin Ray, So put me on the list,
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  Speaker 1: please randomize or pick my name, because I can't wait
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  Speaker 1: to see him in concert next week. All right, we'll
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  Speaker 1: do another pair tomorrow as well. Friday already here.
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  Speaker 5: Well that's gonna be that Friday pair of tickets is
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  Speaker 5: gonna feel extra special.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not been a great week for me, like overall.
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  Speaker 1: Oh but and so usually those those kind of weeks
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  Speaker 1: kind of dragged down. Yeah, but man, this is flown.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe it's already Thursday. All right. Yesterday we
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  Speaker 1: had Matt hasselback on, and yeah, I'm going to replace
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  Speaker 1: some of it for you. So I realized that I'm
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  Speaker 1: speaking to our eight o'clock segment audience right now, and
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  Speaker 1: we had them on at eight o'clock. Usually I try
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  Speaker 1: to put them at a different time when I do
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  Speaker 1: replace some of it. But this isn't your typical in
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  Speaker 1: case you missed it, kind of interview. I just wanted
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  Speaker 1: to play a clip because I think he said something
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  Speaker 1: very interesting yesterday about Jackson Smith and Jigba and then
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  Speaker 1: want to have the time to kind of respond to
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  Speaker 1: Matt's thoughts on our wide receiver number one. But I
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  Speaker 1: posed it this way to Matt Hasselbeck, who does follow
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  Speaker 1: the team very closely.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, he's a gem. I'm so glad we have him on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he is locked in on it. I posed it
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  Speaker 1: this way. The Rams, who seem to be the stiffest
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  Speaker 1: competition not just in the NFC West this year, but
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  Speaker 1: throughout the NFL for the Seahawks trying to repeat as
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions, seem to have gone out of their
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  Speaker 1: way to bolster their secondary, getting McDuffie, getting two guys
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  Speaker 1: from the Kansas City Chiefs, and so they've bolstered their secondary.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's pretty obvious it's anti JSN where
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  Speaker 1: that the Rams are going to approach this season with
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  Speaker 1: They've got a wide receiver that is really difficult to control,
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  Speaker 1: and if we can do a better job of controlling him,
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  Speaker 1: maybe that's the difference in US actually winning the NFC
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  Speaker 1: West this year. But I asked Matt Hasselback about that
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  Speaker 1: and specifically, is there any defense against JSN? Can he
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  Speaker 1: be stopped? No matter what other teams try to do well?
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  Speaker 7: Everyone else is trying to do it. With the disrespect
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  Speaker 7: that the awards show. At NFL Honors, they couldn't say
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  Speaker 7: his name. The NFL accidentally sent him the Defensive Player
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  Speaker 7: of the Year award trophy instead of the Offensive Player
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  Speaker 7: of the Year trophy.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, he's getting.
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  Speaker 7: Disrespected all kinds of different ways from different spots. But
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  Speaker 7: the true measure of respect is what the teams in
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  Speaker 7: your division do in the draft and free agency to
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  Speaker 7: try to stop you. I remember I was with the
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  Speaker 7: Green Bay Packers my rookie season and Randy Moss just
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  Speaker 7: went off with the Minnesota Vikings just torched the NFL
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  Speaker 7: completely and we had really good dvs. We the very
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  Speaker 7: next year, we drafted a corner in the first round,
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  Speaker 7: a corner in the second round, and a corner in
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  Speaker 7: the third round, and in our head coach basically was like, Hey,
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  Speaker 7: we'll see if one of y'all can cover Randy Moss,
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  Speaker 7: because so far we've not met anybody that can do it,
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  Speaker 7: and so I don't know that we're at that extreme,
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  Speaker 7: but it was definitely a sign of respect to Randy Moss,
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  Speaker 7: the wide receiver, and I think that's kind of what's
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  Speaker 7: been happening with this division with JSM.
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  Speaker 1: Matt Hasselback yesterday. If you want to hear the entire conversation,
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  Speaker 1: you can do so at ninety three to three KJR
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Jerry Rice was maybe the best football player
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  Speaker 1: I've ever watched. And the reason that I feel that
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  Speaker 1: way is that Jerry Rice didn't matter. I mean, he
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  Speaker 1: would go into a game and if you were rooting
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  Speaker 1: for him, like you know, when fantasy football started, I
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  Speaker 1: had Jerry Rice on my very first ever fantasy football team,
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  Speaker 1: and so you rooted for him, and you're like, man,
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  Speaker 1: this is too good to be true. This guy can't
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  Speaker 1: be guarded. He can't be stopped. When you're rooting against him,
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  Speaker 1: you were like, how come nobody's covering Jerry Rice?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: How does the defensive coordinator not know that Jerry Rice
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  Speaker 1: is good?
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  Speaker 3: Did no one give him a game plan?
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  Speaker 1: And he always seemed not just he not only got
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  Speaker 1: the balls thrown to him, he always seemed wide open,
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  Speaker 1: like through his entire career, and it just left you
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  Speaker 1: scratching your head. You're like, how on earth is the
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  Speaker 1: defense not guarding Jerry Rice? And we're gonna give coach
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  Speaker 1: Holmgren a little bit of credit for that early in
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  Speaker 1: Jerry's career for scheming him open. So we don't want
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  Speaker 1: to leave coach out in that. We know that Jerry
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  Speaker 1: played with great quarterbacks, some of the best of all times,
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  Speaker 1: and Joe Montana and Steve Young, and so a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of that goes a long way. We know that
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  Speaker 1: he had another weapon and John Taylor for most of
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  Speaker 1: his career on the other side, that certainly commanded a
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  Speaker 1: ten And you know that coach Holmgren and Steve Mariucci
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  Speaker 1: and whoever else was there with San Francisco, you know
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  Speaker 1: they ran that West Coast offense, so they put a
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  Speaker 1: full back out. Brent Jones was dangerous, Roger Craig was
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  Speaker 1: so Jerry Rice. I mean, there were a lot of
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  Speaker 1: reasons that went into it, but there was no reason
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  Speaker 1: that he would should ever be left wide open. And
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  Speaker 1: yet because of his own individual greatness, he often was.
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  Speaker 1: And you were either screaming for him that he can't
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  Speaker 1: be stopped and it's amazing, like you're stealing candy as
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  Speaker 1: a fantasy football player or a forty nine er fan,
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  Speaker 1: But if you were rooting against them, it just you
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  Speaker 1: couldn't believe what you were watching and you were sure
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  Speaker 1: that the other team was just a defensive coordinator was
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  Speaker 1: a dope. But I think that this position, for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 1: like the truly elite ones have that ability no matter
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  Speaker 1: what you do against them, that they can create space
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  Speaker 1: in a defense. They just no outer run routes. They
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  Speaker 1: know how to catch defensive backs off guard, and it's
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  Speaker 1: just happened throughout history. I mean, that's one thing about
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  Speaker 1: wide receivers. Usually the great ones are always at the
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  Speaker 1: top of the list the next year, and catches and
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  Speaker 1: targets and yardage and touchdowns, that's just how it sort
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  Speaker 1: of works. Doesn't matter how much the other team game
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  Speaker 1: plans against them defensively or who they bring in to
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  Speaker 1: try to help stop, the great ones just separate themselves.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the Rams are gonna do a better
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  Speaker 1: job of defending against JSN. They've obviously made it a priority.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna bracket him double team, and they're gonna probably
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  Speaker 1: do whatever it takes to stop a guy that had
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and nineteen catches last year and our second
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  Speaker 1: place receiver at fifty two.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, but that.
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  Speaker 1: Alone tells you we've got one of those guys. He
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  Speaker 1: is one of the those guys Travis Kelsey said of
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  Speaker 1: in the postseason when asked about JSN, and he said
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  Speaker 1: it in almost a flabbergasting, flabbergasted way, not like I'm
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  Speaker 1: coming on the air to talk about JSN. It was
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  Speaker 1: almost like I catch passes for a living. I've been
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  Speaker 1: really good at it, probably great at it, probably going
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  Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. And yet I've never seen
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  Speaker 1: anything like him. I the separation that he gets. Travis
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  Speaker 1: Kelcey went as far as saying JSM might be the
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  Speaker 1: best pass catcher the game has ever seen. That's what
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  Speaker 1: he said about him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy, and you can't get.
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  Speaker 1: More flattering than that. And and I know he's not
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  Speaker 1: the fastest guy, and I know he's not the biggest guy,
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  Speaker 1: and I know he's not got the best leaping ability.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because we had one of those on our team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And and certain he's got great hands. Are
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  Speaker 1: they the best I've ever seen? It's gonna be hard
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  Speaker 1: to top Chris Carter in my book. Ever, it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be hard to top Steve Largent ever for the greatest
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  Speaker 1: hands that we've ever seen. But certainly he's ten out
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: of ten he's a ten in that area. But his
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: just ability and knowledge to change up his route, change
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  Speaker 1: up his speed. I'm sure the Rams have closed the
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  Speaker 1: gap a little bit, but I don't think there's any
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  Speaker 1: stopping Jsn. I just think he's one of those dudes.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any stop in Jamar Chase. He's
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  Speaker 1: not the only one. He's not the only one. As
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  Speaker 1: long as you got a good quarterback. I think the
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  Speaker 1: only way to stop a quarterback like a receiver like that,
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  Speaker 1: that is in that category, that is in the Jerry
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  Speaker 1: Rice I'm the best in the world conversation category is
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  Speaker 1: that you don't have the quarterback that can get him
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  Speaker 1: the ball. And I like to believe that we have
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  Speaker 1: one in Sam Darnold despite all of the critics. So
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  Speaker 1: I say, good luck, Rams. I mean, you spend an
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  Speaker 1: awful lot of money to try to stop our wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver one. I don't think you're gonna do it.
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  Speaker 5: No, And I you know, we do give a lot
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  Speaker 5: of We talk about how a lot of athletes forge
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: or create a chip to have on their shoulder in
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: order to perform better. And now JSN not that we
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: needed him to perform better, right, we needed him to
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: just come back and do what he did last year,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: and if he does that, we're we should be in
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: good shape. But now he also has a chip on
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  Speaker 5: his shoulder and he didn't have to make it up
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  Speaker 5: to get it there. So I mean he is genuinely
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: pissed off and feels disrespected by certain things. And so
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  Speaker 5: I think you're just going to have a guy on
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  Speaker 5: a mission in twenty twenty six, an absolute mission, and
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  Speaker 5: I am so excited about Hi.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he needs that chip.
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  Speaker 5: He didn't he he doesn't need it, But I'm just
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  Speaker 5: saying I think he's got it.
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  Speaker 1: H Well, I don't want to get back into that
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  Speaker 1: conversation again. I think it's silly that he fels disrespected
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  Speaker 1: by an unprofessional comedian. Uh, but he doesn't need it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't have it last year and he dominated.
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  Speaker 1: And so look, Hugh Millen brought up during the year,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know if I know a person that
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: knows more about football than Hugh Millan, and I know
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  Speaker 1: what he was coming from in the conversation about it,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: and that was that, Hey, I've been around this game
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  Speaker 1: a long time. I've been around some of the old
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  Speaker 1: time greats and you can't just lock in on one
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver. You guys spread the ball around and it
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: just creates balance in your offense. And I know he's
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: right about that. I know he was spot on about it.
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  Speaker 1: But he was talking about that early in the season
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: and he thought they were leaning on him a little
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: too much during the course of the year. And my
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  Speaker 1: reaction at the time was, well, if they can't stop it,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: why would I go away from it. I know, I
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  Speaker 1: get what you're saying, and I think that you're right.
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  Speaker 1: And yet in basketball, what really separated the Michael Jordan
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: career from everybody else was this ability by the Chicago
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: Bulls to say, hey, this league's been won by balance
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: in the past. That Magic Johnson and the Lakers and
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: Larry Bird. The Celtics had five guys on the court
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: that could score. The Lakers had some usually four, and
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: then they would have a defensive stopper who could run
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: the floor. Okay, And so that's kind of the way
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: it was. Almost every team like everybody could shoot. That's
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: how you built a basketball team. You didn't you didn't
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: want to have one weakness on the offensive side of
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: the ball. You wanted everybody to be able to shoot,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: and if you had five guys on the floor at
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: one time, what an advantage that that's going to give you.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: But Michael Jordan when he came around and text Winner
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: and Phil Jackson, they were like, why do we need
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: to give the ball to anybody else? We have the
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: opportunity every trip down the floor to put the ball
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: in the hands of the greatest basketball player in the world.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean he has to shoot every time,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: But if we can just kind of put role players
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: around him that if defenses do want to triple team him,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: quadruple team him zone and won him, then we'll put
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: guys on the perimeter that'll burn them for that. We'll
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: put a man down low who can get the easy
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: layup because you've put too much attention toward him. And
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: that sort of started a new revolution in basketball and
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: everybody started doing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Why are we
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: running a balanced offense? Why are we running this play
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: to the right, But we want to run this play
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: to the left to keep everybody involved, to keep the
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  Speaker 1: defense imbalanced. Why don't we just give it to our
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: best player every single time and then we'll play off
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: of that. If they stop him, then that means somebody's
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: wide open and he has the passing ability to kick
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: it that person. And so they did that in basketball
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: years ago, and that's kind of what you see, kind
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: of tying the entire conversation together. Was Okay, Jerry Rise
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: is our best player. Coach talks about all the time
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: I had Jerry plays, and if I hadn't gone to
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: him in a while, I just run a Jerry play.
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  Speaker 1: And that guy just had the ability to get open
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: no matter what you wanted to try to do against him.
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  Speaker 1: And it's what an advantage that we have that we
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: have one of those dudes. And so even though I
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent agree with Hughes theory that he used
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: during the course of the season, we've got to spread
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: this around, it turns out that we really didn't have
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: to spread it around, because until somebody shows that Jackson
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba can be stopped, then I'm going to
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: throw to him whenever I have the chance, because he's
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: our best player on our team. And and so that's
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: that's the advantage of having one of these special cats,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: and we just so happened to have one of them.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: And so I think the Rams will do a better job,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: But I don't think it's gonna solve your issue. Just
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: like we don't have a solution for your wide receiver one.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: You've got one of those guys too. We've got a
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: great secondary here in Seattle. We can't stop him, right,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: and you can't stop our guy. And you can improve
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: it if you'd like. But I just there's something about
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: having a good quarterback and an elite wide receiver, one
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: of those guys that has pretty much been unstoppable throughout history.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: You heard Matt Hasselback talking about Randy Moss. We already
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: had a good secondary, we drafted three guys, and we
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: still couldn't stop him the next year. Good luck. That
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: might be chasing your tail, because I don't think whatever
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: you do is going to slow down number eleven.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he just proves it time after time.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 5: Because two years ago, obviously with DK here, everybody kind
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 5: of said, well, JSN is having a good season because
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: everybody's double teaming DK, and so it's not just JSN.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: How's he really going to do when he's on his
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: own and he's the main target.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: Well, I think he's going to do pretty freaking good.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say it only unlocked him.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know if John knew that at the time.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: I like to think that John is like a he
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: just sees everything in the future.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: I think John suspected it. I don't. I don't think
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: that he even knew.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: I don't think anyone could have expected what we got.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think even John knew how good he was. Yeah,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: I don't even think Mike knew how good he was.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: And I think that Hughes football instincts are about as
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: good as anyone's. And when he's saying, no, I've been
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: around this game a lot. You've got to spread the
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: ball around. That's how we're going to be a more
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: balanced offense. You got to use both. You gotta go
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: outside the hash marks, you gotta use the middle of
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: the field, and you've got to incorporate more people. And
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: I think that's sound perfect reasonable football sense to feel
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: that way. But maybe we didn't realize we have one
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: of those guys. Even after seeing him for a couple
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: of years, I didn't think that he could do what
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: he did this past year.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: No, as I said, I don't think anyone could have
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: predicted what we got.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: Right, And I mean one hundred and nineteen catches seven
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: hundred and ninety three yards for goodness sake, I mean yeah,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: I think that makes perfectly logical, reasonable sense that you
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: need more weapons around him, and I still want to
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: keep building them up. Like Rashicha heat is back at
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars to provide that balance. Cooper cups being
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: paid a big salary. We should see more out of
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: Elijah Royo. We're certainly expecting to see more out of
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: a healthy Tory Horton this upcoming year, and so we
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: do have those weapons, but I don't know if you
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: do need to spread it around in this offense. I
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: think Sam's Sam had the right of it from the
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: beginning of the year last year, I'm looking to him
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: and if he's open, I'm throwing it to him. Yeah,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: you know that's gonna be Yeah, that's gonna be our
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: passing game. I'm just going to believe that he's nobody
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: can cover him, and that's who I'm gonna throw it to.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: I remember the Arizona Cardinals, Kurt Warner came in. Everybody
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: thought he was washed, and he kind of looked that
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: way at the beginning of the year. Remember they made
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: it to the Super Bowl with Kurt Warner. Should have
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: won it. Now, for a couple of fluky Steelers plays
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: would have won the Super Bowl. And certainly the best
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: player on that team was Larry Fitzgerald and then one
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: of the top five players on the team, maybe top
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: three was and Kwan Bolden. So they had these weapons
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball, and Kurt Warner
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: spent the first half of that season spreading the football
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: around like because that's what he was conditioned to do
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: with the Rams. He had receivers everywhere, and we're gonna
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: spread it around. We're gonna throw it outside the ash,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: We're gonna throw it deep to keep you ones, We're
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: gonna throw it over the medal. I'm gonna throw it
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: to Marshall Falk one hundred times out of the backfield,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: you know. And it was a symphony. It was one
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: of the greatest offenses of all time. And that's the
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: way that it's supposed to look, that's how it's supposed
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: to be drawn up. But Isaac Bruce and Tory Holder
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: are having a hard time getting into the Hall of
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: Fame despite the numbers that they put up, because they
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: aren't clearly that guy. They aren't that Jerry Rice guy.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: They aren't Larry Fitzgerald. And about halfway through that football season,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: Kurt Warner, and this was after Larry's urging, because Larry
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: wasn't the fastest guy out there either. Larry just told him,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: throw it to me, but what you're covered? Throw it
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, but you've got two guys on you
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: just throw it to me. And so he's like, yeah,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: but if they're both in front of you, then throw
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: it above them. They can't stop me, man. And I
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: don't know if he ever said that word for word,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: but in the sense second half of the season, Kurt Warner,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: whether Larry Fitzgerald was covered or not, through the ball
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: to Larry Fitzgerald, and all of a sudden the Cardinals
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: started taking off. There are just special dudes. And at
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: that position, I don't know if you've got to play
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: by the traditional logical sense of things, and so good
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: on your rams. I realize you probably had to do
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: that out of necessity. It feels right, but I don't
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: think you're stopping our guy, Like maybe you keep him
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: from getting to one hundred and nineteen catches again, But
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: something tells me he's going to have one hundred and ten.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: He's just that special. He's just one of those dudes.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think he can be stopped. Larry Fitzgerald couldn't
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: be stopped even when he was covered. Jerry Rice couldn't
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: be stopped even when you game planned against him. And
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: I think we've got one of those guys right now.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: So Sam, when he's open, throw to him and don't
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: worry about balance across the field. All right? Coming down
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: next on the program, it's the The Baseball Brunch, will
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: recap yesterday's Mariners game on Sports Radio ninety three point
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: three kJ r f M, ten o'clock hour here on
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: this Thursday. That's right, magically, it's already Thursday. It's Chuck
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: and Ashley with you here, Chuck and Buck in the Morning,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ r f M.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: I kind of like the fact that somebody's listening for
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: the first time. Here's me introduced Chuck and Ashley, and
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: then I say it's Chuck and Buck in the Morning.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: So people think your nickname is Buck.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: It's not rhymes though it starts with a different letter.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, that's what I get Oh, luck Ryan,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: that's me.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, lucky as they come up.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: But yeah, somebody driving for the first time, like he
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: just said, her name is Ashley. Is her nickname book?
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: Yep, that's that's it. Yeah, no, no, this is my
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: excellent shot.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: No newcomer, Bucks just not here. So but uh, you know,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: we're going to find some information out about that here soon,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: all right. Joining us now on the radio program is
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: Christian Caple, who has been covering with exceptional flair your
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: Washington Huskies for years now, the co host of the
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: Say Who Say pod. You can find them on YouTube,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: and of course he's still writing about the Huskies on
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: Montlake dot com. And it's been a while since he's
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: joined our radio program. I think he had some babies
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: and stuff that kept him from joining us in the
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: early morning hours. But perhaps he's capable again. Actually, he
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: is Christian capable, and he's joining us on the radio show.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: How are you, sir? I'm well, I'm better now after
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: that introduction. Yeah, thanks, that was I thorough. That was great, okay,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: very good. How are things? How's the family? How's life?
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 8: Good, daughter's five years old now, just got her off
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 8: to preschool this morning. She's just finishing up going to
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 8: kindergarten in the fall, So that's a whole other thing.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 8: I'm trying not to think about too much quite yet.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 8: But yeah, how are you guys doing.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, we're doing good. We're doing good. I was just
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: Ashley and I were discussing this. I said, he didn't
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: want to miss one first thing in the mornings. I mean,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: what if his daughter was going to, you know, ride
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: a tricycle for the first time, and he's stuck on
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: a radio interview with Chuck Powell for goodness sake, and
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: he misses that opportunity. But now she's gone off to school,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: your mornings are free. You can join us all the time, right, exactly.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, the tricycles in the rear view mirror at this point.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: There's a little bit of a pause there that I didn't.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: Appreciate, bigger than a little longer than I felt comfortable.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: Then that's just that's just the that's just the connection. Okay, Okay,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: all that makes sense. That made me feel better strangely.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: All right, well, let's dive in and let's talk about
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: the number one issue here first, and that is uh,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: apple cup Sunday, what do you make of it.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I understand why in this era of traditions kind
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 8: of fallen by the wayside. I mean, the Apple Cup's
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 8: being played the first weekend in September as a season opener,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 8: first and foremost. That's weird, but it's been weird the
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 8: last couple of years. I understand why any change, any
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 8: further change to what you're used to college football being
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 8: is irritating and why sort of the initial reaction is what,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 8: you know what, who wants to watch the Apple Cup
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 8: on a Sunday?
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 8: I think if you take a step back and look
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 8: at it, it's not that big of a deal. I mean,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 8: it's the first it's opening weekend, it's Labor Day weekend,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 8: so you know, most people would imagine we'll still have
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 8: the following day.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: Monday off from work.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 8: It's a one pm kickoff, right, I think given the
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 8: choice between playing at eight pm on a Saturday or
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 8: one pm on a Sunday, you know one of those
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 8: is preferred, right, And it's a standalone primetime TV network
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 8: TV window. There's no other college football games being played
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 8: at that time. If you want to watch college football
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 8: and that Sunday at that time, your only choice.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: Is Washington against Washington State.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 8: So I realize not everybody cares about those things. Some
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 8: people just like knowing that they can show up to
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 8: Husky Stadium on the first Saturday of September and there's
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 8: going to be a Husky football game and they're not
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 8: going to have to rearrange their weekend and all those
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 8: sort of things. So I get how it's a little
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 8: bit irritating. I think on the whole, if you're going
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 8: to play a game on a non Saturday, this is
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 8: kind of the weekend to do it. And I don't
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 8: know that I think it's I think it can be
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 8: a net positive for them.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's the star part of a
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: new tradition that this will happen every Sunday or do
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: you feel like it's the next step in the de
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: evolution of the game and maybe we're closer to not
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: having the game at all.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 8: I don't think it's the start of a new tradition.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 8: I mean it only worked out this way because it's
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 8: the first weekend of the season. The Big Ten typically
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 8: tries to get creative and stretch that Labor Day weekend
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 8: schedule out a little bit, and the Apple Cup. You know,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 8: assuming they continue to play, it won't necessarily always be
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 8: the season opener. I don't have the twenty seven and
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 8: twenty eight schedules in front of me right now. I
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 8: don't think it's scheduled for the opening weekend again, but
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 8: I could be.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: Wrong about that.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 8: This is the first time it's happened, so I don't
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 8: I don't think it's anything. You know, like in the
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 8: old PAC twelve Days Friday, a Black Friday, it kind
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 8: of became a popular date for it, but you know, again,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 8: it was always the Thanksgiving weekend, right it was always
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 8: it's the season finale, so you could kind of kind
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 8: of plan around that, and that was similar to other
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 8: rivalry games. So I, you know, as far as whether
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 8: they'll keep playing it, I mean, I think we need
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 8: to learn more about the College Football Playoff expanding and
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 8: what that's going to do to non conference scheduling and
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 8: is there going to be any sort of agreement between
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 8: the Big Ten and SEC or the other two power
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 8: conference leagues for those schools to play each other. And
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 8: you know, they have a home and home on the
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 8: schedule with Tennessee the years the first two years after
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 8: the Apple Cup contract expires, and I wouldn't imagine you
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 8: could play that and the Apple Cup.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: So something's going to have to give there, and we
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: just don't have answers on that yet. Christian Caple is
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: with us and you can follow Christian at Christian caplecap
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: l E and he does have like a poll up.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: I was interested to see the results, so I did
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: vote it is Sunday Apple Cup. Love it, hate it,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: or it's fine. I clicked it's fine. I didn't expect
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: the results. Forty seven percent. I think it's fine, thirty
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: five percent hate, eighteen percent love. So far in your
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: voting at this point, I think I'm surprised by all
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: of those results. Christian, I didn't think eighteen percent would
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: possibly love it. I thought more people would hate it
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: than thirty five percent, and I thought it's fine, would
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: be the lukewarm middle finisher there. And yet people seem
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: to be, at least those who've taken the time to
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: vote okay with it as a solution for twenty twenty six.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: What are your reactions to the results you got on
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: your poll.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not terribly surprised, and I also think it's
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 8: the kind of thing where you know, those are the
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 8: results here within twenty four hours of the move right now, right.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 8: I think that as time goes on, people will come
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 8: more and more to accept it. I think, you know,
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 8: a byproduct of college football becoming what it has and
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 8: being so unrecognizable from what it was ten to fifteen
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 8: years ago in so many ways, is that I do
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 8: think it's conditioned fans to roll with the punches a
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 8: little more and sort of be prepared for Yeah, Okay,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 8: the Apple Cup's going to be the season opener, why not? Okay,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 8: two years ago, the Apple Cup is going to air
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 8: exclusively streaming on Peacock.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, why not?
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 8: Oh, the Apple Cup's going to be on a Sunday.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: Now, yeah, sure, why not? You know one more thing?
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 8: So two years ago they played it on Lumenfield and
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 8: it streamed on Peacock. So I think I think anything
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 8: is an improvement from that.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: Well, it's been a while since I've had Christian Caple
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: on the show, since the Little Cable just came into
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: the world, I believe. And so let me just get
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: your gauge what your temperature reading is for the sport
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: of college football in general, We've had a lot of
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: change since last you and I talked on the air.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: So do you think that college football's headed in the
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: right direction with all of these major changes or are
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: you a little worried about the future of college football.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 8: I think they will be headed in the right direction
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 8: once it's acknowledged that the players are employees, because they
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 8: are being treated as employees in just about every conceivable
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 8: way at this point, and they form a collective bargaining
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 8: unit and a collective bargaining agreement is reached that establishes
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 8: firm parameters around compensation and so many other items. But
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 8: really that player pay and what are you going to
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 8: spend on your roster? What can you spend on your roster?
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 8: The House Settlement attempted to implement a cap, not a
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 8: salary cap because it's.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: Not salary because they're insisting they're still not.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 8: Employees, but an nil licensing cap that the school can pay.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 8: But everybody's exceeding that with third party dollars that may
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 8: or may not be legitimate, and it's still just very patchwork.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 8: And so yeah, I know, there's new federal legislation that
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 8: was I guess not yet technically introduced, but sort of
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 8: publicly unveiled yesterday. Involving a US Senator from Washington, Maria Cantwell.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 8: That sort of tries to codify a lot of what
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 8: the House Settlement brought about and set some guidelines and
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 8: you know, put it into federal law and give schools
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 8: something real to work with.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: If that passes, it's a long ways away.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 8: It probably won't look the way that it does currently
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 8: the way the bill is written, but it still stops
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 8: short of saying that, you know, players should be employees
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 8: and that there's collective bargaining. So I just I think
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 8: until you get to that, and obviously you know, that's
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 8: not some magic bullet that brings with it. It's its
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 8: own flaws and consequences and everything. But I think anything
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 8: short of that is still just a band aid and
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 8: delaying the inevitable.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: Five years from now, how large will the college football
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: playoff be? Gosh, talking about five year periods in college
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: football just feels like eternity. Five years ago was twenty
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: twenty full season. Yeah, that's true. True, maybe a medical
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: waiver or two.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 8: I I tend to think it's more likely than not
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 8: that it expands to twenty four. And I'll go out
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 8: on a limb and say it'll stay there, but gosh,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 8: further expansion and further you know, consolidation around that the
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 8: major leagues. If there's this, you know, some sort of
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 8: super league forms between now and then, you can throw
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 8: that out and I don't know, I twenty four feels
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 8: like a probably a little bit too. I think that
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 8: if that, I don't want to say it's too big
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 8: or too much access. I do think that's the point
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 8: at which you are inviting more teams than could conceivably
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 8: compete for a championship. There's not necessarily anything wrong with that,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 8: you know. I think the player compensation piece is driving
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 8: a lot of it, right, because I think that what
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 8: the leagues are hearing from ads and from coaches is that, look,
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 8: if you're gonna ask us to go to our boosters
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 8: and ask and ask ask for more and more and
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 8: more money every year to pay players, you need to
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 8: give more of us hope that like there's some sort
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 8: of postseason tournament we are striving toward, and we have
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 8: more than twelve of us have a chance to go
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 8: compete for a championship at the end of the year.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 8: So it all kind of comes back to that player
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 8: pay piece. But yeah, to actually answer your question. I'll
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 8: go at twenty four.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: Christian Caple is with us Onlinlake dot com. Also the
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: host of co host of Say Who Say Pod, which
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: you can check out on YouTube apparently as well, and
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: we're talking some college football and we're catching up with
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: Christian Caple because it's been a while since he's been
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: on our radio program. So let me get your assessment
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: of Jedfish era and how healthy you think Washington football
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: is currently under his leadership. Yeah, I think it's at
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: least on schedule.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 8: It can be easy to Yeah, I think when they
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 8: go eight and four, nine and four with a bowl
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 8: game in year two, it can be easy to sort
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 8: of move past just how difficult the transition from Kaylin
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 8: de Bor to Jedfish was. You know, at a time
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 8: when college football is, you know, changing every day, you're
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 8: turning over your whole roster. You're losing a bunch of
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 8: guys from that twenty twenty three team that played for
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 8: a national title anyway to the NFL draft into graduation.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 8: But then you also lose a ton to the transfer
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 8: portal when the coaching change happens and they're scrambling just
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 8: to have enough offensive linemen to practice with. So that
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 8: was that was a rough period. I thought six and
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 8: six and year one was just fine considering the challenges.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 8: And but with that said, you know, there there is
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 8: a certain expectation that they take another step forward this
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 8: year and that they be even more competitive. I mean,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 8: you saw the gap close in terms of what it
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 8: looked like when they played a team like Oregon or
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 8: when they played a team like Ohio State that I
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 8: think they had the talent and depth to hang in
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 8: a little bit longer, but not for a full four quarters.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 8: And that's sort of what they've talked about this year,
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 8: right is you know, being able to go actually go
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 8: toe to toe with some of those teams that have
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 8: managed to put him away by a couple of scores
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 8: and getting Demond Williams Junior to a point where he's
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 8: making better decisions and better plays and more of an
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 8: impact against some of the best defenses that they're going
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 8: to face. And and then I think the schedule is
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 8: harder this year too. I think on average, you know,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 8: the Big ten opponents that they face week to week
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 8: is going to be a higher caliber than what they
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 8: saw weekend week out last year. Even if they still
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 8: did see some of the you know, the very best
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 8: teams in the league. So I think recruiting is going
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 8: about as well as you could expect. At Washington. I
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 8: think with some of the nil constraints they have, they've
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 8: put together, you know, a pretty talented roster from what
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 8: we saw this spring. But it's it's sort of TBD
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 8: on Hey, when when Washington lines up against Indiana, when
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 8: they line up against Oregon, when they line up against
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 8: some of the Big Ten's best, Like, is that a
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 8: game that's going to go down to the final possession
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 8: or not?
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with your assessment at all, and I
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: give a Husky fans lot of credit. I think the
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: entire fan base has been patient with the process and
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: understood what Jedfish was up against when he took over
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: this job. And I think that they were okay with
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: that first year. And I think they were okay. Nobody's overwhelmed,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: nobody's thrilled, but I think they were okay with that
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: first year. Everybody was okay with nine and four. My concern, though, Christian,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: is do you have the team that can improve on
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: nine and four this upcoming year? I'm not sure I
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: see it. I mean, I haven't dove into it quite
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: as thoroughly as you were SOFTI or Dick have on
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: our radio show. But as I sit here right now,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure I feel something better than nine and
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: four this year?
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 4: Do you.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 8: I think it's possible, but you know straight away, like
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 8: you look at the last two games on the schedule.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 8: They're home against Indiana and they're out Oregon. So that
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 8: removes a lot of margin for error from that portion
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 8: of the schedule where you could talk about, hey, these
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 8: are the games that could sort of go either way,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 8: and I think they have more of those these games
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 8: could go either way type of games this year than
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 8: they did last year. The number that I kind of
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 8: come back to to illustrate like just how different this
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 8: schedule is is I think there were six Big Ten
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 8: teams last year that did not make a Bowl game,
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 8: and five of them were on Washington's schedule. Only two
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 8: of those teams are on their schedule this year. So
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 8: there are other seven Big Ten opponents, all at least
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 8: won six games last year. One of them won the
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 8: National Championship, by the way, didn't lose a game. We
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 8: know what Oregon is like, US has high expectations. They
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 8: play them on the road. Iowa is always tough, they
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 8: got them at home, They've got Penn State at home.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 8: So none of those are games, you know, the USC,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 8: the Iowa, the Penn State going to Nebraska, Like, none
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 8: of those are games you'd look at and say, oh,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 8: there's just no way Washington can win that game. But
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 8: they're all distinct challenges and so like I think that
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 8: games along with obviously like not kicking one where you're
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 8: heavily favored like they did against Wisconsin last year, taking
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 8: care of business against those teams, and then you know,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 8: really getting it done against that sort of middle to
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 8: upper tier of the schedule, like that's going to determine
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 8: is this can this be a ten and two team
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 8: or is this another eight and four type of team?
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, why don't you thanks for coming on with us,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: by the way, first and foremost, and I know you've
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: got a lot more first with your daughter that are
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: coming up. Let us know. The first time she says, man,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: I love that Chuck and Buck radio show. Just give
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: us a notification, like she just randomly because you're listening
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: to it in the car whe her of course, like
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: you do every morning. She just randomly throws that out there.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: That'd be nice to know. That'd be nice to hear, Christian. Yeah,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: I'll call in, how about that?
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be great.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you've got the green light call in whenever
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: you'd like. But I can't wait until her first first
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: time she realizes she loves radio show. That's going to
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: be a special moment for you.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 3: And for your whole household.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's that's you know, it's a special time in
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 8: every family's history.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. Yeah, yeah, so thanks for acknowledging that.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: Uh well, great to hear from you. Seriously, that was
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: It was good to chat with you, and hopefully we
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: can do this some more in the future. All right, yeah, absolutely, anytime.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: All right. Christian Caple joining us here on the show
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: of Getting You. You can follow him at Christian cape
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: Le c A p L e H. He's been covering
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: the Huskies ever since I got here, that's for sure,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: and on Montlake dot com and then he's got the
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: podcast and he's on YouTube and everything else.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, Christian, all mediums there he is spreading his knowledge.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, we appreciate him jumping on here
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: and yeah, I I guess I don't hate Apple cups Sunday.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: I think you ought to give it a go as
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: a new tradition, since you've obviously scrapped the old tradition.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: I think you should try to make it every Sunday
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: Labor Day and try to have the entire college football
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: world watching you if they want to watch football at
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: that moment on that day. I think that's what you
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: should now strive for, because if you jerk it around anymore,
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's just going to go away entirely.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you what I like about it is that
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 5: it's the first game of the year. Okay, so if not,
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, I prefer it as the last game of
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 5: the year. But if it's going to be the first
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 5: game of the year, make it the first game of
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 5: the year. The problem is, I don't think they can
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 5: keep it as the first game of the year because
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 5: the schedule makers and all the things they do. I mean,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 5: so far, we've had it a different We've had it
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 5: the second week in September, we've had it the third
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 5: week in September.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 3: Now we're having it the first week in September.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 5: So I would love, love, love it to just be
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 5: you know, every year you're going to get the Apple
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 5: Cup that week. I do think that would be a
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 5: way to start to bring back some of the fun
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 5: of the rivalry.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 3: But right now, you never know when it's going to
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: be played.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 5: So if you could make sure that you could keep
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 5: it concrete to one weekend like it used to be,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 5: that's a great start.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: It's weird. It's just weird.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: It is weird.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: It's been weird for years now. It's going to be
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: weird again this year. But I think there's a chance,
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: Like I put on his poll, hate it, love it
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: in between or it's fine was the other one I put,
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: it's fine. Yeah, for where it's at right now. Yeah,
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: it's fine. But I think if you want people to
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: love it again, which I don't know if that's possible,
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: it would be great. This might be your opportunity. Yeah,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: put it at an odd date, have the stage to yourself,
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: make it a new tradition, make it a new tradition.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: It's Sunday afternoon before the NFL season, which, by the way,
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: I think the NFL is going to expand its schedule
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: and probably renders this point.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: Moot the funeral Saturday. Yeah, and least it would still
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: be the first weekend.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but but we'll give it a go. Yeah, that's
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: all we can do. That's right, Well you're not going
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: to watch it, right, we'll give it a go, all right.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: Coming up next on the radio program, we do have
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: the ABC's of the MS. Do want to let you
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: know that Talalaprasort Casino. On June fourth, Colin Ray will
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: be performing at the Orca Ballroom. I always want to
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: call it the Brawlroom because I like that there should
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: be no fighting at the Colin Ray concert, at least
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: this time. Then again, maybe that's what you're going there.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 5: For, you know what, Try to try to just have
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 5: fun and listen to the music and let the music
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 5: take over instead of your fists.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, and so June fourth, Colin Ray tickets are available
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: everything to lalup dot com. And of course we will
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: be choosing a winner from our ticket giveaway later on
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: in the day, so we'll do that again tomorrow as well.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: ABC's are the MS. Next on Sports Radio ninety three
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: point three kjr FM, latest from the Mariners, but not
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: necessarily about last night's game. We don't know where the
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: alphabet's going to take us. I will tell you before
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: we get started, because I have kind of woken up
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: to the idea that we can't give people updates enough
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: in the morning about what has happened with the Mariners,
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: most recently, because people wake up at various different times
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: and join us at various different times. So I will
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: at least start with telling you they won nine to
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: one over the A's yesterday afternoon. That is a sweep
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: of the A's. And believe it or not, despite all
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: the struggles this team has gone through, they have not
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: played well. They have just not played well. It's been
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: quite ugly, certainly not up to their capabilities. I think
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: this is far and away the best roster in the
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: American League West, and yet they are twenty eight and
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: twenty nine on the year, a game away from five hundred,
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: which they could get accomplished Friday against the Arizona Diamondbacks.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: But yesterday they surged in the first place in the
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: American League West because no other team in the division
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: has a record of five hundred or better.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: There you go, just like we drew it up. Oh yeah,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: these first fifty seven games.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do love it when a plan comes together woo. Yeah.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: So first place team that we're discussing today in the
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: ABC's of the MS, and we left off at the
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: letter you yesterday. So you was for unprecedented and I'm
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: going to do it. I'm gonna do it again. I'm
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: gonna talk about the piggyback. Oh yeah, because it is
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: an unprecedented move. I don't remember anybody else at major
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: league level trying this. Ryan Healy says they do it
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: in the minor leagues all the time, but I've never
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: seen anyone do it, and we don't. We didn't come
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: up with the name piggyback. We're only using the term
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: piggyback because that's what they used.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 5: And we're not gonna come up with a different name
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 5: because people don't like piggyback, because then no one will
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 5: really know what we're talking about, and then we really
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 5: are trying to be cute, right.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, Yeah, thank you. So, yes, I do
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: want to talk about the piggyback because there is one
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: way we have not discussed it ended up not discussing
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: at a second time on yesterday's show, and I wanted to,
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: and that is the way that they have handled them.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: And there is definitely criticism that can be levied toward
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: the Mariners for the fit that Luis threw in the
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: dugout and that Bryce and I don't think Bryce threw
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: a fit, but he was obviously angry when he's removed
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: from the game the first time they tried it, and
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: he has had comments in his postgame you know, each
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: game negatively toward it.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he doesn't like it, right, or at least it's
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 5: uncomfortable for him, and he doesn't seem to I should say,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 5: I shouldn't speak for him.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 3: He doesn't seem to like it.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: And I want to tell you right now, for these
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: two guys to verbalize or make gestures or anything, I mean,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: you're roffling some feathers here, because those are about the
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: two most easy going dudes on the entire team, in
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: the entire organization, like, regardless of job. I mean, I'm
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: sure there's an easy going you know, Cotton Candy Vendor
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: at T Mobile, and he's not as easy going as
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: Bryce Miller is. So to have angered those two to
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: the point that they're saying things in press conferences and
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: they are at least in interviews postgame interviews and making
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: gestures and making a stand on the mound. Boy, you've
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: done something. Yeah, you've done something, And I don't know
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: where the blame goes, so I'll just throw a blanket
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: over the entire organization. Who knows. I mean, obviously this
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: was the brainchild of the brain Trust, and I think
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: Dan was a part of that conversation, but no doubt
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: Jerry and Justin spearheaded this conversation on how they wanted
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: to use it, and I'm sure Pete was involved in that.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: I'm sure a bunch of people from the nerd rama
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: were involved in that. And so it was an organizational
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: decision spearheaded by Jerry and Justin who I'm sure Jerry
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: had the final say in all of it. Now, this
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: organization's not exactly been great at communicating things to their players.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: They do seem to have more people on board with
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: management than they've had in past years.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 5: Yes, they seem to give have given other thoughts other
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 5: than just the numbers and things.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: They now care maybe more about team chemistry.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: They seem to really care about it all of us
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: y sudden, But I don't know where the break. Maybe
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: they're just not good at it. But there did Jerry
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: think Justin was going to explain it to Bryce and
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: Louise better than what they did. Did Justin then think
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: Dan was going to do it? Did Dan think Pete
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: was going to do it? I mean, who knows where
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: the breakdown was. But they're, in my opinion, all responsible,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: every single one of them. And you know how much
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: I love Pete. From Pete all the way up to Jerry,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: they're all responsible. Someone had to make sure that Bryce
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: and Louise knew what you were doing, why you were
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: doing it, how long you might be doing it. All
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: of those things should have been covered with those two.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: They should not have had looks of why are are
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: we doing this again during the game, in the middle
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: of the game. So yes, I think blame absolutely gets
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: thrown at the organization. I throw it at the feet
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: of all four of those guys. I don't know who
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: owns the Lion's share of it, but does that matter?
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: Should we care about that? Hopefully they have it corrected
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: and the communication has been opened up.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, because it should be very black and white.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 5: It should be either okay, Bryce Miller or Luise you're starting,
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 5: You're going four innings. It does not matter how well
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 5: you pitch we are pulling you after that, and then
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 5: Bryce Miller is coming in. So that should be either
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 5: one way it's communicated or Louis you're starting, we're going
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 5: to have you go four innings.
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  Speaker 3: If you're doing real well, we might keep you in.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 5: And then Bryce, you just need to be more flexible
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 5: on when you're going to be ready.
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  Speaker 3: It has to be one of those two things.
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  Speaker 5: There shouldn't be anything any other explanation that was given
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 5: to them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I appreciate I hope everybody else does.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: Jerry's said publicly like this is not an ideal, So
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: we're not sitting here thinking that we've come up with
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: the ideal solution to all of this, but we just
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: think this is the best thing for now, and for
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: now it's worked. I mean it has. They collectively, the
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: two of them have a two point one to two
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: er over the two piggyback attempts. You won one game
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: going away, you saved your bullpen entirely. In one game,
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: you practically did the in game number one. But there
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: are lessons to be learned from both of them. So
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: they're going to try it a third time, and Bryce
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: will be the starter the third time. Maybe it's the
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: last time. Maybe it's the last time they have to
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: do it. I don't know, but certainly it has I
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: think had more success than it has had failure to it.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: But obviously there should have You should have been able
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: to avoid Bryce and Luis not having a better understanding
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: of what you're doing. So shame on you, and you
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: should have known better than in a one row. We're
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: not going to just commit to an experiment. We're going
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: to try to win that one run game and do
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: whatever it takes to win that one run game. So
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: hopefully those lessons have been learned will be applied to
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: experiment number three, which will happen on Sunday, and it
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: will be Bryce Miller starting against the Arizona Diamondbacks. Those
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: are my feelings, all right, Villas for vlow Bryce Miller's velocity.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: Everybody keeps talking about how where did this come from?
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: You know? And he's throwing ninety eight ninety nine, and
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: I realized that's an uptick over the last couple of years.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: Why am I not surprised? Am I the only one
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: that remembers when Bryce Miller came into our lives?
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 5: I don't think so. Spring training, everybody does seem surprised
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 5: spring training, and I forget the year. It was Bryce Miller.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 5: He had not made his major league debut, so he
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 5: was a prospect at that time, and we were talking
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 5: about Bryce Miller as the talk of spring training before
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 5: we even got to spring training. Pete Woodworth came on
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 5: our show before we even went to spring training, and
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 5: I said, who's going to be the talk of the camp?
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 5: And he says, well, isn't Bryce Miller already the guy?
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 5: I mean, there were already reports out that this prospect, Bryce.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: Miller was throwing one hundred and two miles per hour
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: and that he might end up making this team either
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: as a starter or out of the bullpen out of
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: spring training. I mean that was going into that's before
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: we even knew what he looked like. So I don't
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: know why people are so caught off guard that he
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: can hit. I mean, hitting ninety eight ninety nine consistently,
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: I think is representative of the strength and the weight
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: that he added in the offseason. So he's worked on
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: it so that he can he can actually juice it
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: up like I can feel confident to air it out
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: at ninety eight ninety nine in the first inning because
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: I think I can sustain it with my experience, my
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: new strength, my new size, my new durability. But he's
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: always had the ability to touch ninety eight, ninety nine
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: hundred miles per hour. He's just been pacing himself to
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: get through starts, to throw one hundred pitches in a
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: game potentially. So I don't think people should be this
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: caught off guard by Bryce Miller's velocity, because an awful
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: lot of you seem to be mystified by it.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is weird that people are so baffled, especially
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, also, he's been injured on and off throughout season,
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 5: so you're not maybe you're not you haven't gotten the
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 5: full or maybe it's been a while since you got
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 5: the full Bryce Miller effect.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he's here. Yeah, I mean that's the first
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: time I'd ever heard of him. Somebody broke a story saying,
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: there's this kid Bryce Miller's throwing one hundred and two
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: yeah this off season, and keep an eye on him
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: for spring training. So crazy, right. Finally, w is for waiting,
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: and I hopefully I've covered it up, but I've been waiting,
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: and you know what, Tom Petty, my friend Tom Petty
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: used to tell me, don't say the hardest part. Waiting
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: is the hardest part. Sometimes. No, it's Paul McCartney told
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: me never to name that.
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 3: Oh that's right. I'm sorry, it's just not cool.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Tom Petty used to tell me. And little
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: chit chats we used to have, he was like, Chuck,
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: you know, the waiting is the hardest part.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 3: I've heard that before.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: You know, Thomas, You're right, you know you know TP
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: because I called him TP sometimes. And so I've been waiting.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: I've been waiting to really unleash on trade talk. Okay,
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: but you know they call June the start of trade
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: season in Major League Baseball, even though they really don't
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: trade until the end of July.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: We make this mistake every year. But it's a fun
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: mistake to make because instead of one month of talking
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: about trades, I get to do it for two. So yeah,
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: I'm already thinking about what the Mariners should add. I've
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: leaked a couple of things on the air here and there.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: But I am waiting. I am waiting for June to
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: really dive in, to start figuring out what the market
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: looks like and what the Mariners might be able to add.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: But I heard Bob Nightingale yesterday They've already jumped the
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: gun with Greg be Greg Bell's already jumped the gun.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: He's not even a baseball guy.
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 3: Greg Bells jumped the quarry.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: He's jumped the shark. No, you did not jump the shark.
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 3: I cannot understand why that word was so hard for
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 3: me to come up with.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell was talking about yesterday with Bob Nightingale about
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: the trek Scoobel being traded, and it looks like the
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: Tigers have already decided that they're going to move them.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: They are off to a bad start. They're twenty two
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: and thirty four, which they did not see coming, and
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: maybe they've already resigned themselves to we're out of this race.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: They're ten games out of first place at this point.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: He would certainly be the number one trade commodity at
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: the trade deadline this year, and maybe that trade's gonna
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: come sooner than later. So whoever does acquire him has
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: to add twenty three million dollars in payroll immediately, and
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: probably has to give up two prospects, two really good prospects,
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: in order to get somebody with an expiring contract who
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: they may only be renting. They're gonna want as many
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: starts out of that dude as they can possibly get. Now,
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: I would think that the Tigers. He's on the injury
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: list right now, but he's a head of schedule and
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 1: should be back mid June. So I would think that
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: whoever trades for him wants to see him pitch for
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: the Tigers a time or two to make sure that
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 1: what they're getting is vintage Terrek Schooble. Yeah, but it
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: looks like he might not only be the biggest name
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: to be traded, he might be the first name to
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 1: be traded in the trade deadline process. Maybe the Tigers
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: have already resigned themselves to do it. Of course, all
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: the experts are throwing out the typical names, the Yankees,
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 3: And well, please don't go to the Dodgers.
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but those are the names that are going to
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: be popping up, no doubt. But I would I think
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: it's the Cubs. I mean, I can already predict that.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: I think that the Cubs are going to have the
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: biggest need for a starting pitcher. They're big payroll, they've
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 1: got prospects to move right now. I think the Cubs
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: are their best dancing partner. But I will say this,
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: teams like the Rays don't mind renting these guys. A
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: lot of people have a big problem with it. The
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: Rays don't. This is like, this is our one chance
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: to get Terrek school. There's no chance that we can
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: get him in the offseason, so let's get him now
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: we're a first place team. But teams like the Rays
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: might be interested. Some unsuspecting characters could be interested in
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: the Trek Schooble sweepstakes. So I don't think he's going
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: to go to one of the big names that just
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: immediately pop up. I think he's going to go to
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: one of the under radar teams that are going to
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: pay a little bit more in prospect value in order
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: to get him. So that's going to be fascinating and
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: I am waiting, but I can't wait to for trade
• 2:04:00
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