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  Army retired, uh CEO of the Near East Center for Strategic Engagement and your host for tonight, and also a board member of the National Security Hour.
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  My guest, as has been done previously, is Claire M.
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  Lopez, a regular online block contributor at Newsmax as well as on the air with one American News Al Shama, Iraq TV and Sky News Abu Dhabi.
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  And is a founder president of Lobus Liberty LLC with a mission to alert Americans to national security threats, both international and from the Islamic movements, Muslim Brotherhood and their Marxist collaborators in the country.
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  She supported uh former acting ice director, Tom Holman and Tom Trenton at the uh Defend the Border, the United West, and also was instructor for John uh Guandolo's uh understanding the threat interaction program and this online National Security Academy in mid-2023.
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  Uh she offered her expertise as national security advisor to the U.S.
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  Uh she is also a senior advisory board member and director of the U.S.
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  Um Claire is uh good to have you back.
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  Uh I know that the uh Paul just went ahead uh recently and um talked to the American people uh this week, of course, specifically as far as where we are with uh Iran, and I wanted to make sure we brought you back as to where we are and what is it looking like from your perspective based on this speech.
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  Well, great.
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  Thank you, Sarge.
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  So very glad to be back with you again.
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  Uh and let me begin by offering you and uh all the Assyrian people a very happy new year.
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  Thank you very much, Claire.
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  Um, as we say, uh Ido Kunawa Bricha, and uh hopefully this uh new year 6776 becomes uh another uh positive uh year for the Syrian Christians, even though they're suffering currently under what's happening uh in the Middle East.
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  But God bless you.
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  Thank you very much on behalf of the Assyrian people.
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  And uh as far as uh President Trump's um briefing, uh Primetime TV, uh just uh, you know, um, about the um situation in Iran, uh the United States operation, um Epic Fury.
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  Uh I'll tell you, uh it was a lot shorter than I would have expected, um, as Trump speeches typically go.
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  Uh he was speaking from the White House podium there.
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  Um, and it was an update uh, you know, on uh the military uh situation, uh touting uh numbers of targets struck and so forth, uh, and objectives uh met in particular uh taking down Iran's nuclear weapons program, uh, its ballistic missile delivery system uh and its navy, which now sits mostly at the bottom of the Persian Gulf.
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  Um, but I I guess I would have expected a little more uh about uh you know where we go from here.
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  Um he did mention that Operation Epic Fury might go on for another few weeks.
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  So we've just uh you know begun uh uh the month of April, so sometime into this month.
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  Um but there is no mention um about uh the fact that whatever might be left, the remnants of the uh the Iranian regime are still under the command and control of you know, whomever remains surviving of the IRGC, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Pazda on.
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  Uh not a mention of that.
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  Um not anything really specific either about how and by whom and how soon uh the Strait of Hormuz um is going to get opened up again to international shipping.
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  So I was a bit disappointed.
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  I I expected uh more details than than we got.
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  No, it it was, uh, but uh I think um what I take from it, and for people who may not know, um you know, I I do know how the uh oil is moving through the region right now, even if you are trying to get uh uh maybe for folks that understand oil uh bus or light, which is what um uh everybody globally would like as one of the best oils coming out of Iraq.
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  The Iraqis are actually transporting it via ground to the ports uh uh in Syria and in uh uh Jordan and shipping it out from there.
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  So uh nothing has really moved um uh Trudeau ships uh that are picking up the oil to the uh uh Strait of Hormuz.
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  I mean, uh, you know, you can have tankers move through it, like the Chinese and so and so, uh, but they might not be carrying uh even the best uh crew, they might be carrying uh what is uh mid-grade or heavy.
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  Um so uh I'm sure the global community does want to see the regular traffic return.
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  I know that one piece that I picked up from the fact that I had talked about this uh going back uh weeks ago when I was interviewed.
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  Um, and I said that uh the biggest issue is if you start hitting in our case US, uh the uh electrical infrastructure of the Iranians.
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  I mean, you literally have completely destroyed the country because of you know, electricity, as we all know, uh runs their water, uh, their um their food, uh, their uh basically functioning daily life uh requirements from their hospitals to basically uh processing the oil through their refineries, and uh if you start destroying that capacity, um I have no clue how even a future Iranian government is gonna be able to recover without uh trillions of dollars uh being poured in from foreign governments in support of it.
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  So I think that's pretty much the warning that was given by uh Trump to try to get whoever we're discussing uh uh terms with to come to the table and agree on a settlement.
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  Uh, but I think both you and me have kind of talked in the past, and uh the last interview that we did was uh looking at the fact that you have to have somebody who can manage these 92 million people in Iran.
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  And uh, you know, it takes uh it's gonna take a, I would say, even somewhat of a heavy hand to be able to manage uh what is happening on the ground, especially with the remnants of the Best CGs and Postarum, uh, possibly remaining under a new government that might be out there.
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  Yeah, you know, a couple of things.
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  Um, there are other alternate routes uh for getting oil uh out of uh the Persian Gulf area, specifically uh Saudi Arabia, uh, some time ago built a pipeline uh across the peninsula from the Persian Gulf westward uh to outlets on the Red Sea.
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  So that's one route, and then the other one uh was built by the United Arab Emirates, which uh, as we know, um, you know, has uh has a presence on on the Persian Gulf, but also at the tip of that uh strait uh that it can, you know, uh the pipeline goes around, in other words, skirts, uh avoids the the Strait of Hormuz.
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  Um and so uh, but even even totality of of the oil, you know, that can be piped through these two alternative um you know routes out of the Persian Gulf, uh don't amount to the 20 million or so barrels per day that typically previously um would have passed through the Strait of Hormuz.
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  It amounts to maybe I don't know, seven or eight million barrels per day, I think I've seen, so quite a bit less um, you know, than uh than typically would have gone.
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  Through the Strait of Hormuz by shipping tankers.
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  But then the other thing you were mentioning about the uh, you know, the electric grid, the infrastructure uh inside of Iran.
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  And you know, I I I thought specifically, for example, that President Trump um was talking about avoiding destroying the piping, storage tanks, etc.
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  infrastructure on Carg Island, the main great big, you know, oil export um hub uh for for the Iranian regime, uh, an island uh in the Persian Gulf, but avoiding destroying all that, maybe taking over it, taking control of it of it, but not destroying all the infrastructure, specifically in order to leave uh that capability, that that infrastructure for a future uh free uh government of the Iranian people.
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  And I I don't know, that was the other thing, to whom, with whom um Trump admin uh negotiators might be speaking uh from the Iranian regime side.
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  Um if it is um any of the remainder of the Pazdaran, uh, you know, Ahmed Vahidi, uh now the commander of the uh Pazderan, uh, or you know, somebody uh like um uh Mosan uh Bakir Kalibaf, who is the um the uh the secretary of the Supreme National Security Council, taking the place of the now departed Ali Larry Jani, or even if it's uh Mohammed Bakr Zol Qatar, who is now um the um uh the new secretary uh of the uh Supreme National Security Council.
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  I got that wrong.
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  Uh uh Kalibaf is the speaker of the uh the Iranian parliament.
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  So but if any of those figures, if if that's whom they're talking with, what for?
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  Uh number one, they're they're positive on their regime, every one of them.
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  Uh and number two, um they they would lie.
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  Uh no matter what they might agree to in uh the hopes of buying time, uh, you know, escaping uh the bombardment that's been raining down on them.
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  Um they would violate uh, you know, whatever provisions might be agreed to, they'll they'll lie and and uh and then violate the provisions.
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  So I I'm really I was hoping to hear more about that in President Trump's talk, but uh no mention.
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  No, there wasn't any mention, but uh wanting me know is uh as much as the national defense strategy doesn't talk about says that we're not in for a regime change.
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  We have someone change the regime of Iran multiple times now by uh killing the top leadership.
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  But that's not a change of regime.
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  That's a a change in the in the identity and figures at the top of the regime.
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  That's all.
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  It's the same regime.
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  Is it is the same regime.
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  The the one thing that you know, I I always tell people when um, of course, when I was in Iran when the uh when the uh Shaz regime changed out, basically, and uh we had an orchard um and the back of our house, basically, um, across from the street, and um every night you could hear um, you know, uh firing that was taking place.
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  And this is where you you knew that they were bringing the members of the Shah's regime and executing him, basically, uh, in the orchard, you know.
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  I mean, the bodies were gone by the morning, everything was cleaned out, but uh even as a young kid, uh, you know, um not even the 10 years old.
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  I I could remember that, and I knew that that's what they were doing.
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  Unfortunately, there is gonna be a um gnashing of teeth um after we have been done with our operations.
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  And I think that uh, you know, if the Iranian people are turned on whatever is there, remnants of whatever the regime leaders are, uh they'll probably nod their flesh off of the bones of those individuals.
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  Uh on the other side is uh the reality that um there's two things that can happen.
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  Either this thing falls into absolute disarray, or you have to have somebody there that you can put enough pressure on on their neck to uh try to have them at least present a possibility of uh uh change that allows uh what the people in Iran were taking to the streets for.
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  Uh by the destruction of their infrastructure, uh Claire, I'm gonna be honest with you, there's no way that things are gonna recover.
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  And if it's not gonna recover, I have uh I think that's a warning that Trump has given them.
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  But I think once Trump says it, if uh somebody doesn't want to come to the table and play nice and uh agree with us on the on a resolution as our military operations are now winding down.
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  The reality is we will destroy the case.
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  Yeah, but I mean, why would we even why would we even want them to come to the table?
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  They're not the ones we should be want to be talking to.
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  The people that we want to be talking to are those inside of Iran, the Iranian people.
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  Let it be the ethnic groups, the Baluchis, the Turkmen, the Azaris, the Kurds, uh the Achwas Arabs, the Bujahri Nikalk.
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  But why talk to anybody from the regime?
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  I don't know.
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  Uh, unless the belief is that uh maybe only somebody from the regime can control it now.
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  I don't know if who's in the army.
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  Uh the army still hasn't been somewhat untouched.
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  Uh the Iranian army has to make a decision.
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  They have to say, okay, you know what?
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  We're gonna take charge and under a martial law, we're gonna hold a country.
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  We'll try to give a representation for the people of Iran, but I have no clue right now, to be honest, how how the whole thing is gonna flush out at the end.
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  But I do know one thing.
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  Trump is not gonna hang around and he's leaving uh the region now uh once our military operations are pretty much um last Friday was gonna be plus or minus a week here there at the end of April, and pretty much when he came and talked uh just this past week uh uh on on Wednesday, I believe, uh was when the police gave his uh speech.
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  He pretty much said, you know, within a few weeks.
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  Uh we got less than a minute.
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  Any closing thoughts on this one?
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  And then we're gonna do that.
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  Yeah, I would just say that um, you know, uh a future Iran uh under the rule of a free and fair democratic election by the Iranian people can be a tremendous asset to the United States, to Israel, to the Sunni uh uh neighbors in the region.
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  Um we want them to be our ally and partner.
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  We don't want to destroy the place.
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  No, we don't.
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  And uh uh let's hope that uh some rational minds uh you know are able to come out of this discussion and uh uh get us to a point where not destroying their infrastructure before we leave.
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  But that's it.
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  Uh she's the founder and president of Lopez Liberty LLC with a mission to alert Americans and national security threats, both international and from the Islamic movements, Muslim Brotherhood, and their Marxist collaborators in the country.
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  Claire, as we were leaving the last segment, you did say that uh uh you know uh an Iran that is Western looking basically uh it's gonna be uh help for our partners and allies in the region to include Israel.
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  And I was uh interviewed just last Friday, and I mentioned that uh, you know, really if you take the entire Jewish community from all over the globe and you put them in the Middle East, it's gonna be very difficult for them to manage that region.
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  They'll need partners.
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  And I did say that uh, you know, in the future you have to have a you know partnership with Iran.
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  Of course, we will definitely have it with Saudi Arabia.
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  Saudi Arabia comes out of winner after this war, given also the uh Gulf states uh are gonna be now dependent on it, uh all their oil infrastructure platforms.
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  Some of them will take five years to just even rebuild.
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  So as Saudi will uh sign a new uh Abrams Accord in the long term with Iran uh being uh ally of Israel, I think Israel within a two-year span, you could see them be a uh uh regional juggernaut.
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  Um even today, uh, you know, with what's happening with Europe, and I do want to pick your brain on the issues of NATO and how Europe really didn't come to um support uh and simplest aspects of what we're doing in uh uh in uh uh the war against Iran.
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  The fact that they're buying weapons systems, their Israeli weapons systems from uh Israel, the Europeans are buying those, uh Europe will be in the long term dependent on a strong uh uh Israel and in the region and a good partnership maybe with the state of Israel would allow them now to become uh one of the uh not just the strongest powers in the Middle East region, but I would say in the Near East, as I have said that three years ago uh and uh in uh talks and interviews.
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  Um just uh your perspective on that, and I know that the same um, you know, as we start looking at NATO, uh the reality that NATO really didn't step up from what uh Trump was hoping.
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  Of course, I remind people NATO is a defensive organization.
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  Uh, but uh we don't do really anything offensive unless one of our uh the nations of NATO is attacked.
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  But uh uh just your your understanding of where this might be heading uh and a fallout uh after this war.
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  Well, you know, Sargis, um I I would look at um the US um, you know, uh requests to European countries to help with uh opening uh and keeping open the Strait of Hormos, not maybe even so much in the context of NATO per se, which is North American treaty organization, right?
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  Uh but rather just our partners and allies, Britain, France, Germany, Italy, um, and uh that they uh did not want to uh step up, step in, um, even though uh, you know, they're the ones uh who depend upon um the flow of oil out of the Persian Gulf through the Strait of Hormos, um way more than we do.
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  As a matter of fact, uh United States being you know energy independent um practically doesn't need that oil uh at all.
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  Um so I would think that in their own self-interest, um, you know, they might have uh stepped up, but not only did they not step up to to pitch in um but close their airspace to uh you know overflights by United States forces uh en route to uh to Iran, uh refusing the use of their bases, the basis that we pay for in their countries, refusing that use to us uh for the purposes of uh you know Operation Epic Fury.
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  So uh it seems to me pretty short-sighted on the part of those leaderships.
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  Uh not sure that's exactly what the people of those countries, the European countries, um, would have uh decided.
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  Uh but the the leadership uh in in those places, uh many of them at least uh are very poor.
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  No, it is very poor.
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  Um but you know, uh, you being the founder and president of Lopez Liberty LLC, and I know that the mission is to alert Americans of national security threats uh that are really uh looking at the Islamic movement slash Muslim Brotherhood and their Marxist collaborators.
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  Uh, you know, it's it's very difficult when you're you're England in this case, and frankly, um foreign virtually people may not like it, but England's butter gets uh basically uh I mean bread gets buttered by the uh their their contacts in the Islamic um nations, and I gotta tell you, people may not know, but England and uh France made a lot of money with the uh current regime uh in Iran uh because of the uh business abilities that they had to still negotiate even through the uh sanctions that we had against Iran uh specifically uh with Iranian businesses that uh uh were tied to the regime that were operating in their country.
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  Um do you think that uh is because Europe is so far gone uh under the control of uh uh the Marxists and uh Islamic movements that it's gonna be very difficult for us to really rely on them to come back to support us on these type of operations?
• 26:28
  Yeah, I do think so.
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  Um you're mentioning Britain, uh we can add France, we can add Germany to that list.
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  Um these are places that um uh really uh injudiciously, I would say, have allowed uh millions of unvetted um migrants coming up from the Middle East uh to invade their countries.
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  Um and uh now many of the politicians, I guess, feel uh beholden to uh a uh a portion of percentage of their electorate now, with uh you know, heads up America.
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  This can happen here too if we don't um pay attention to what's happening in Europe.
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  And I mean, thank goodness right now under the Trump administration, our borders are more secure uh than they certainly were in the four years preceding this second term of President Trump.
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  But uh to Europe, yeah, that that's that's in large measure uh why the decisions being taken by their leaderships, Kier Starmer, Prime Minister in Britain and Macron in France, and uh um, you know, these uh leaderships again um are looking to their uh election prospects.
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  Um they did it to themselves.
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  Um, and I don't know how they can fix it right now.
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  Yeah, I mean it was bad enough that even General Kellogg's recently in an interview on Fox stated that uh NATO allies are basically, he said, cowards who use that word uh and call for a new defense uh um uh maybe a new defense treaty and alignment.
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  And I know Friday of last week when I was interviewed, I stated that maybe uh uh we might be looking at a new new uh uh defense alignment with the Baltic states possibly.
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  Um and I know that based on the uh Potas's uh speech where he talked about you know nations are uh friendly to us in Europe, you know, you would um make sure to guess that Poland would be part of those nations.
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  Um I know that it's been mentioned, even you mentioned maybe Germany, but uh I know that the Germans and Poles still unfortunately the historical animosities, uh Germany had a uh unf a leaked uh uh memorandum that had looked at their foreign policy for the region in the long term, and the poles are not happy because it uh looked again like a larger Germany when having a much more of an influence on uh its partners within the region, both economically and full and security side of the house.
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  Um with that said, we don't know where it's gonna lead, but I know that there is uh uh talks that are now scheduled for I think it's June, if I'm not mistaken, not July, that there's gonna be a NATO conference, and we'll see what comes of it.
• 29:25
  But uh uh there's been individuals, uh, even uh General Kalog who had said that uh, you know, uh recommendation is that uh uh you know Article 13 of the NATO treaty should be uh looked at, and uh that gives an opportunity for the United States to uh basically say we're leaving NATO uh uh within a year.
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  Uh your perspective on what uh General Kalog has said.
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  Yeah, I heard uh I heard the same thing you did there, Sargus from uh retired now General Keith Kellogg, uh, who was uh
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  Our former envoy to Ukraine for a time.
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  Here's the thing.
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  We are all of us, European countries, Eastern Western Europe, United States, we are all of us part of the international system of independent sovereign nation states.
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  The Westphalian ideal.
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  Not that it's always upheld, but that's the ideal.
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  And because we're part of it, we must be invested in it.
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  And when that system is challenged in any way, whether it is geographically next door to us or not, we need to stand up and support those who are next door to whatever that challenge uh may be.
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  And I think this goes for NATO as well.
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  Uh NATO uh needs uh United States uh support uh for its own uh security um and vice versa.
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  The United States uh needs Europe, needs NATO to be independent, secure, and sovereign.
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  Uh if it is not, if NATO is not, if Europe is not, we will not be either.
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  And I don't think people uh perhaps uh realize that always when they're talking about uh ditching NATO or so.
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  We are part of the same system, uh, and our interests lie in defending that independent, sovereign nation-state uh system.
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  Um without it, um neither we nor uh NATO nor Europe uh will be sovereign or secure.
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  Yeah, the the old joke was when I was in the service.
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  We used to say NATO uh stands for not able to organize um um, but uh uh the reality is that uh uh NATO members can go strike deals economically with whoever they want.
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  Turkey at the time we need it, and we're striking deals with the Russians.
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  Um and uh sometimes I don't think we see uh that uh maybe there should be a change in uh what NATO nations can do or cannot do.
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  I mean, uh Chinese put the Shanghai Corporation organization to get it to counter NATO.
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  Um and uh, you know, even with them, uh, as Iran is a signatorial to the uh Shanghai Corporation organization.
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  Um isn't really doing anything um from his perspective, uh, even though the Chinese have been linked to targeting of U.S.
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  basing using their satellite systems are being provided to the Iranian regime.
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  Uh but uh at the same time still, you know, he's letting Iran be devastated.
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  Uh so uh we'll we'll see how it turns out.
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  But uh uh really uh uh the unfortunate piece of it is that these same nations are going to compete against us uh in the Middle East uh in Iran uh to control the Iranian bazaar after a change has taken place, most likely, hopefully for our benefit, rather than anything else.
• 33:14
  Well, I mean, here's another point that we uh probably should highlight here, and that is um the brilliance of President Trump's uh strategic sequencing.
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  Uh going after uh Nicolas Maduro and Venezuela first, uh extraditing him uh on a Department of Justice legal warrant to the United States to stand trial, but in so doing, uh cut off the flow of Venezuelan oil uh not just in terms of the income back to Venezuela immediately speaking, uh, but to Cuba, to Iran itself, and importantly to China.
• 33:59
  Uh the oil out of Venezuela is heavy crude.
• 34:02
  It is tar sands oil.
• 34:04
  It needs special refineries to handle it and refine it.
• 34:09
  Uh the um uh refineries in Texas were specifically designed in the past to handle uh that kind of uh refining uh capability.
• 34:20
  Uh China also had built at least one uh specialized refinery to handle um uh uh Venezuelan uh heavy crude oil.
• 34:31
  Uh that's cut off now for China.
• 34:33
  Now, yes, China can get uh oil from other places like Russia to the north, like Siberia.
• 34:41
  Um and uh had been also uh uh the top, I think probably the top customer for Iranian oil.
• 34:52
  Uh now I understand that some of the uh the ships, the tankers, uh have uh been allowed through the Strait of Hormuz recently en route to China.
• 35:02
  Uh but their their import of of oil from the Persian Gulf has been cut back uh seriously.
• 35:10
  So again, the strategic sequencing uh of Trump's operations.
• 35:16
  He thought all of this out ahead of time, and what would be the downstream uh you know effects uh of what he was doing?
• 35:26
  Venezuela, Iran, China.
• 35:31
  No, definitely, and uh for those who may not know uh uh oil tanker, uh if you're looking at ultra-large uh crude carrier looking at three million barrels, and then for regular tankers uh that are large tankers, two million barrels of crude oil.
• 35:47
  Uh, and if we're looking at uh maybe the Iran is allowing 20 of those to move through, it's still not enough really uh to um allow these countries there now short when it comes to what their strategic reserves are to be able to uh continue um you know as is uh and uh like I said, uh Europe is uh in a position, unfortunately now that because it never planned in the long term, um, you know, it may it may go back to dependence on the Russian oil.
• 36:19
  Uh and uh um, you know, I think even Israel is independent enough right now, oil-wise, that it can maybe look at exporting uh oil to Europe, which would need it um uh in the long term, and as the president offered, you can buy it from us.
• 36:35
  But that's it, we'll come back for our final segment with uh Claire Lopez.
• 36:39
  Uh Claire is the uh uh Claire is uh uh again a uh a uh uh friend of our show, and she's a colleague uh specifically.
• 36:52
  Uh and uh uh as uh I have stated uh she's the uh uh uh founder and president of Lopez Liberty LLC with a mission to alert Americans to the national security threats, both international from the Islamic movements, Muslim Brotherhood, and their Marxist collaborators in the country.
• 37:10
  Uh and we will be back for our final discussion with Claire uh uh on the issues of uh uh basically what is happening uh when it comes to Iran and what are some of the effects are gonna have on us uh here in homeland.
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• 38:35
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• 38:38
  Uh I'm your host, Lieutenant Colonel Sorge Singhir, U.S.
• 38:40
  Army Retired CEO of the Near East Center for Strategic Engagement.
• 38:44
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• 39:13
  Um Claire, um, I I do want to talk about one thing.
• 39:16
  I I know it's not you know foreign policy related, but of course it does have effects on us here internally.
• 39:22
  I know that earlier, uh of course, uh uh this week on uh uh on Thursday, uh Pam Bandi uh did uh step down and resigned as attorney general.
• 39:36
  Um and just your thoughts on uh her tenure and uh also how does that affect anything for us, especially given the fact that the Department of Justice is very crucial when it comes to what happens with uh what we're dealing with when it comes to Iran and uh uh possible uh networks that might be operating in the United States to include the fact that uh
• 40:00
  Attacks that took place in Michigan were really tied to uh Hezbollah operations themselves directly here in the United States.
• 40:09
  Yeah, so I did see that, Sargis, yes, and uh I I knew for some time uh there apparently had been uh um dissatisfaction, shall we say, within the Trump administration uh about the job that Attorney General Pam Bondi was doing.
• 40:28
  There was speculation in the news uh that she uh may uh have uh you know uh a short tenure, uh which now turns out to be the case.
• 40:39
  Following, of course, just uh what a week, two weeks, something ago, um the um uh the firing of uh Department of Homeland Security, uh Secretary Christy Gnome and her reassignment um with the uh the new organization, what is it called?
• 40:57
  America's Shield, I think, um, to uh take aim uh at uh cartels in uh the Western Hemisphere and to uh help align uh Latin American countries, Central South America with uh United States efforts in in that regard.
• 41:15
  But uh as far as Attorney General Pam Bondi goes, um, you know, we're still waiting to see uh uh whom might be uh named to uh uh replace her.
• 41:28
  Um no names really uh coming to the fore just yet, uh we'll see.
• 41:34
  But uh yeah, I I had heard news and so forth uh that there was dissatisfaction with the job she'd been doing uh up until recently.
• 41:44
  Yeah, look from my perspective, the only thing that really kind of uh I was bothered with initially was when she talked about the fact that you know with the protests that are taking place in the schools that you know I'm gonna look at where the money is, who's actually bringing the money into the uh forefront to support these type of uh agitators uh and operations to include even uh you saw the No King's uh um day uh you have the hammer and circle being flown in American cities.
• 42:13
  Um the the issue for me was well is obvious is coming out of uh you know uh we knew in the past out of UAE and other places.
• 42:21
  I know not those countries might have been our partners now into the in the war against uh uh against Iran, but uh that was something that we knew from day one.
• 42:31
  And uh unfortunately, look, I as I say there's nothing illegal about it.
• 42:36
  A lot of these folks, because of the positions I've held in the past, do um uh work uh as uh uh sometimes as lobbyists.
• 42:46
  Uh sometimes they work uh as uh um uh foreign agent for various different nations.
• 42:53
  Of course, they file the paperwork is legal for them to do and uh their advice is taken, and you cannot uh for me from my perspective.
• 43:01
  I go if you're a professional enough and you've been working for a country uh as an advisor, and then that country turns around uh uh you know, when you become an attorney general and your hat changes, your role changes, and as a country that might be tied to sponsoring um terror operations, you have to do your job and go after them.
• 43:21
  And I'm not sure if uh sometimes folks that operate out of Washington are able to separate uh themselves from the connections that they had in the past, because everybody knows once you're out of a position in Washington, you're gonna have to go back and find work.
• 43:38
  And a lot of them go back to the same uh you know opportunities that they had in the past.
• 43:43
  Um and I hope that that's not the case.
• 43:45
  Uh but uh again, that's just a reality of how Washington works.
• 43:50
  Um, and I'm not sure if they could ever change uh even uh folks that might be in position of Secretary of States and others, uh they could be in uh in uh in uh company as a group that is an advisory company to uh foreign uh you know um uh assets uh um now hopefully they're always you know keeping in mind that you know U.S.
• 44:16
  interest comes first, but uh, you know, if uh you're working for a uh uh somebody else who's paying your uh your money for them to work for or paying you money to work for them, um, you know, that becomes an issue whether or not uh uh you're able to separate uh those things and your loyalties to the U.S.
• 44:37
  Um and uh uh again I'm not saying that uh you know those are the causes, especially here for uh the attorney general stepping down, but uh uh it just becomes very difficult.
• 44:51
  And I'm not sure how uh um we're able to uh uh maybe get a functioning government out of uh out of uh DC as even as the birthright uh uh uh you know debate that took place in the Supreme Court uh and president who became the first sitting president to ever uh uh visit the Supreme Court while the case was being debated.
• 45:16
  Uh if you can have companies out of China that is basically uh, you know, ensuring that uh there's Chinese that are going to be loyal in the long term to China uh are uh being born in the U.S.
• 45:32
  or in uh Mariana Islands uh tied to uh to the United States.
• 45:37
  Uh you're looking at almost million plus people that could be individuals who vote on our elections that may not have even stepped a day on uh American soil after being born and might be more loyal to the Chinese Communist Party than they are to the U.S.
• 45:52
  Um your perspective.
• 45:54
  I know I brought it up on uh on that piece and uh just um how do we fix uh uh Washington if he had an opportunity to fix it with simple changes, hopefully.
• 46:06
  Well, it's going to matter um uh a lot uh you know whom uh it will be uh who gets appointed uh to to replace um Pam Bondi at Attorney General.
• 46:18
  Um there uh had been, uh, as I said, um, you know, unhappiness at the pace of indictments, uh prosecutions, you named a number of different uh cases um, you know, and uh the pace of uh the indictments forthcoming prosecutions uh did not seem uh you know uh as um I don't know aggressive as as uh we probably need.
• 46:46
  So we'll have to look uh very hard at who might be uh named to replace Pam Bondi.
• 46:53
  It will matter a lot over the coming years, um, you know, how that person uh will um you know will will take over that that extremely important position.
• 47:08
  No, definitely, and uh uh it is what it is.
• 47:12
  Um so we are now, let's say, in uh September.
• 47:19
  Let's look forward.
• 47:20
  Um what would be the best case scenario when it comes to the Iran War?
• 47:24
  Of course, for me, it would be, you know, we accomplished a multi-missions.
• 47:27
  We pulled out what would be the best case scenario thing we could achieve via Iran and the region, at least for this year.
• 47:35
  Um, because as people have noted and they have to understand, we have the midterms coming up in November, and it is more likely looking historical data, regardless who is going to be the president and who has been the president in the past, that usually the party in the in power loses, and it's uh large number of Republicans now looking even retiring.
• 47:58
  It is possible that the House might be uh uh flipping uh during this election.
• 48:04
  Um what is the best case scenario you think we should we can expect and uh when it comes to the Iran and the region to at least uh allow, even if the house flips in November, the police to have had uh significant effects that are for positive in the long term of U.S.
• 48:23
  national strategy for the region.
• 48:26
  Well, it's going to be very important.
• 48:28
  Um, you know, the uh uh election uh midterm elections coming up in November of this year, 2026.
• 48:36
  Um and I know that uh many are already looking uh forward to uh November, um, even though it's what seven months off or so.
• 48:46
  Um but uh in terms of Iran, I I do think that will be wrapped up much before uh November.
• 48:55
  Um but the outcome, what will what will be the outcome uh for the United States, for the region, for Israel, uh for the Iranian people.
• 49:04
  That's the question that I don't see answers to.
• 49:07
  And again, you know, going back to our our discussion about President Trump's recent um, you know, briefing uh from the from the White House about Iran, um, I I don't see that forward look uh yet being discussed.
• 49:24
  Um perhaps it's being, I hope it's being uh discussed, you know, uh behind closed doors at the White House level, the cabinet level, uh uh the uh you know military and so forth, Pete Heggseth, um uh General Dan Cain.
• 49:40
  Um but what needs to happen, in my opinion, is that we start looking uh to to whom it will be that will replace uh this this oppressive regime of the Pazdaron.
• 49:55
  Uh I don't see that discussion anywhere in public yet, uh, but it's incredible.
• 50:00
  Incredibly important.
• 50:01
  And I again, I think that we should be in contact with the ethnic groups within Iran.
• 50:09
  Again, Baluchis, Azaris, Turkmen, Kurds, Ahwas, Arabs, more.
• 50:15
  Number one, so that they don't spin off in a collapse of the regime into a situation of total chaos.
• 50:24
  But number two, that they be included, maybe in an autonomous uh federated kind of a system, perhaps, um, in which they uh they have autonomy within their own provinces, but are still uh you know bound in allegiance to the center to Tehran, the capital.
• 50:44
  Um so that would be partly uh whom I think we should be talking with.
• 50:50
  Uh also, of course, the Mujahide Nikalk.
• 50:53
  Uh the NCRI, National Council of Resistance of Iran is the political umbrella group here uh in the United States and Europe in the West, uh, elsewhere, um, to which the Mujahidi Kalk uh belongs.
• 51:08
  And uh they have the largest, oldest, best organized of the resistance forces within Iran.
• 51:16
  They are armed.
• 51:18
  They have been fighting this regime for 47 years, uh, providing incredibly important intelligence from infiltration of Iran's nuclear weapons ballistic missile uh programs, um, as well as uh standing up for the people of Iran.
• 51:37
  Mariam Rajavi's 10-point plan uh is is an echo of our own United States Bill of Rights, uh championing uh freedom of speech and assembly and press, um, and uh, you know, all of all of the other freedoms that that we have in our Bill of Rights, um, a secular democratic uh republic to replace this this regime, um, an independent judiciary, so many more things, gender equality, universal suffrage, free and fair elections.
• 52:14
  So these are the ones I think uh our administration, our people, envoys, should be talking with.
• 52:23
  I hear absolutely no indication publicly at least that they are speaking with them, and I can only hope something is going on behind the scenes.
• 52:35
  Um, but unless we get involved in talking with these representatives of the Iranian people themselves, a collapse of the regime in power now could be uh prelude to to real chaos, which we don't want.
• 52:54
  I think one of the reasons you're gonna hear publicly, and this is where you know I'm sure there's Iranians uh or Persians listening to this, uh they're probably throwing a lot of stuff at the uh at the radio because you know a lot of them they I tell people you gotta separate the emotions from the reality of on the ground, but a lot of them just see the Mujahideen as being a creator to Iran.
• 53:18
  Uh that supported Saddam during its invasion.
• 53:21
  Well, except that they never did.
• 53:22
  They never supported Saddam at all.
• 53:24
  But you know how it is, uh Claire.
• 53:26
  Once uh, you know, your grandmother said it while she was in a bunker as you were being bombed, not as the uh actual truth.
• 53:33
  So uh uh that's probably the reason it's not being mentioned.
• 53:36
  But look, we're willing to work with uh uh individual terrorists uh in Syria.
• 53:41
  Uh I think we'll be willing to work with everybody.
• 53:44
  Again, I keep telling people U.S.
• 53:46
  doesn't want to stay in the region, and nobody's paying attention.
• 53:49
  If you do stay in the region, we're gonna stay in the region through partners and not uh uh you know uh on the ground.
• 53:55
  And and people have a hard time understanding that, even to this day.
• 53:59
  It doesn't make sense to them, but uh look, we learned our lessons, and uh after those lessons were learned, they were very expensive, very costly to us.
• 54:07
  We decided that that's it.
• 54:09
  We're done with with this area.
• 54:11
  Uh and let's hope to be able to do that.
• 54:14
  We have too many interests in that region.
• 54:16
  Uh not only our partnerships, allies, friends, begin with Israel, of course, but the the uh the signatories already to the Abraham Accords, uh those whom we would like to see added to the Abraham Accords, starting perhaps with Saudi Arabia, other Gulf states, uh, you know, like Kuwait, um, you know, uh maybe Oman uh and others.
• 54:41
  Um, you know, we have a lot of interest in that region.
• 54:44
  They're not so much oil anymore, no, because we've got our own.
• 54:48
  But they are partnerships, friends, and allies um that we would like to continue a relationship with of uh support and and uh um uh you know uh cooperation.
• 55:03
  No, definitely we will do that, but we're gonna do a true damn, most likely, than having uh large presence on the ground as as we had done in the past.
• 55:12
  And that's the only thing, or we are always gonna keep an eye on it.
• 55:16
  It's not like we're gonna let go because a small fire happens in the Middle East somehow to reaches out and touch us here in the U.S.
• 55:23
  Okay, uh much appreciated, Claire.
• 55:25
  Again, it was a pleasure.
• 55:26
  Um again, my discussion was with Claire M.
• 55:29
  Lopez, uh, who's a regular online blog contributor at Newsmax.
• 55:33
  Uh please go and read her blogs as well as uh on the air with one American News, Al Shem, Iraq TV, and Sky News, Abu Dhabi, and is a founder, President of Lobus Liberty LLC with a mission to alert Americans to national security service, both international from the Islamic movements and Muslim Brotherhoods and their Marxist uh collaborators here in the country, and also at the same time, um she is uh a uh she is a senior advisor, born member, and director of U.S.
• 56:04
  Jewish strategic security issues for the Near East Center for Strategic Engagement.
• 56:08
  I'm your host, Lieutenant Colonel Sorgis Agiri, U.S.
• 56:10
  Army retired, um, and uh CEO of the Near East Center for Strategic Engagement.
• 56:16
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• 56:19
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• 56:21
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• 56:35
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• 56:36
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