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Session Zero University - Worldbuilding 101 with Doug Grosser · Session Zero Heroes | TTRPG Actual Play Adventures & Improv Storytelling

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>> Skylar: Welcome students to Session Zero
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>> Doug Grosser: Algh students, this is Dr.
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Bimmer's class for worldu
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building. 101 discovery of new worlds and how
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to explore it. If you are here looking
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for Professor Thimble and their art of
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terraforming, you've come to the wrong class. And
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please get out now. I am
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in quite a predicament. Unfortunately I seem to be a bit
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under the weather at this time, so I will hand it off
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to my ta, this
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human and they will do what they need to
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do. So I will be off now.
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>> Skylar: Welcome everybody to another episode of the Session
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Zero University. You are here for class. And
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today. We have a phenomenal professor to speak to you
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today and help you to learn about
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TTRPGs, the very many, many, many
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aspects of them. And more specifically, we're going to jump into one of
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those many aspects. We're going to be talking about world
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building today. And joining us to teach us
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all about the intricacies and the exciting
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world of world building is Doug
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Grosser. Doug, welcome to the show.
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>> Doug Grosser: Thank you for having me. It's good to be on.
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>> Skylar: Yeah. Well, we're so excited to have you and world building
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is a big topic.
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We're talking a whole world, right? You look at our world, the earth and
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everything like that and there's so many complexities to it.
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So, with jumping off, just kind of right off
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the bat, if you could tell us he a little bit about yourself. Obviously we
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want to know who you are and what your experiences
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are with TTRPGs, but then tell us a little bit about,
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kind of an overview of what we'll be looking at as far as
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world building goes.
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>> Doug Grosser: Sure, of course. So hello everybody. My name is Doug Grosser.
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I've been a DM for oh, going on
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for almost a decade now. Wow. I have
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had quite a bit of experience and I've had the pleasure of being able
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to join Skylar in real life for some fun
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TTRPG experiences. but I've built
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multiple worlds, whether it be for one shots. I actually, my
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favorite thing that I got this past year for Christmas,
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gift was I got a map of one of my personal
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worlds called Ace Room.
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>> Skylar: nice.
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>> Doug Grosser: Which we'll dive into a little bit later. But I've
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built multiple worlds, whether it be small
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one shots, just little playgrounds, or big ones that
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can encompass eons of
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lore and worlds. So
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I have a little bit of an inkling and I'd like to be able to share
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it to you.
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>> Skylar: Yeah, absolutely. And we're excited to learn because I mean
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like I keep saying it, but worldbuild building is huge. It's a
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big thing. There's a lot of elements to it
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and I think there's probably, and we'll probably go into this, but there's a lot
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of different ways that you can do worlduild building. You don't have to go so
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complex as to figure out every minute
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detail when you're about to run a campaign. Right. there's a certain level
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of world building for any given story that you're trying
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to create with your players.
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>> Doug Grosser: Exactly. And so it is daunting, especially
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if you want to make a world. But when you make a world,
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you'not. You don't need to make five different
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continents, four different oceans, cities
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upon complex hierarchies
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and forms of government. You don't need to do
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that instantly. There's multiple ways to be able to start
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off and then you can grow out. A world can
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start as a point and then become a full plane.
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So to start off, I think the best thing to do
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is why make a world?
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>> Skylar: Ye.
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>> Doug Grosser: So worldbuild building can do a lot of things.
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And if any of you who are listening, have
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listened to the One Shot, episode, you will probably hear
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a couple things that overlap.
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>> Doug Grosser: So one of the main things and things that have helped me
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for what I've wanted to do for many of my campaigns is
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it'll help inspire either long term or short term
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campaigns. So whether it be surrounded by a specific
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concept or maybe just an idea you had for a place,
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it'll help you Develop those areas and
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the surroundings to be able to help
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develop what your players and what you can help
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explore.
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>> Skylar: Yeah, absolutely. So when we're talking concept, Right. We're
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talking kind of like the overarching narrative.
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>> Doug Grosser: Yeah. So it could be for you or any other
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individual, a concept could be as major as I want
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to have something that deals with the anger
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of loss or the complexities
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of a m of power
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hungry, hierarchies, people who are trying
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to take down governments and things like that. Or it could be something as simple
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as I like this one class, I want to make something
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that does something here.
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>> Skylar: Right, right. And then of course place that's pretty
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straightforward for the most part.
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Cities, countries, maybe a
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continent even, that everything kind of takes place on. And that's
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where you're kind of focusing your world building on.
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>> Doug Grosser: And then similar to wanting to be able to try out those types of
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concepts, you can also try a player concept. So you
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might want to try a theme for a one shot. So like for example,
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you guys are very familiar with the Avatar Univers universe.
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>> Skylar: Oh yeah, absolutely.
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>> Doug Grosser: Maybe like multiple elements coming together with
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fire, wind, earth, water or
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maybe something else. Maybe mind, body, soul,
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something of that nature. And you want to try to develop
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worldild building can help you flesh out where these things can
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happen, why these things are happening and
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what you can be able to explore with them.
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>> Skylar: Absolutely. And I like that you mentioned that too, that a
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player's character can be an element in
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helping you as like the game master, the dm, whatever you
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want, whatever the term is for whatever TTRPG it is that you're
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playing to create that world and to build that
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world. Right. That character is going to bring
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elements of whatever their characters like
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culture, background, so on and so forth is. And that's going
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to flow into your world because obviously it's taking place in
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your world. Oh yeah. To help you develop it.
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>> Doug Grosser: Yeah. And I'll dive into a little bit more on that, on some of the
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techniques later. another thing that you could be able to do is
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that you just want to have a sandbox and just something that you can be able to
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do for the future. Whether it be you want to be able
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to live there or have things that you want to be able to do or something that
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you just want to have your players to be able to jump out in. You want
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to try a new class or try a new enemy type, well, you can
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just plop them right into the world that you already have.
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It'just something that people want to enjoy,
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and that is one thing that we'll get into later. But you want
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to enjoy your world. It's not something ably.
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It's not something that you want to be able to just put in there
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just for the heck of it. You want to. It doesn't necessarily have to be a good
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thing too. It could be like, you know, a, power structure
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that you don't like, you know, the monarchies or the governments that
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are very corrupt. But it's something that you want to either
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have change, whether it be by your players or by the people in
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there. But it's something that you want to be in, something that you want
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to be able to enjoy. So you want to be in this
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world, give it color.
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>> Skylar: So you've got this world and you want to flesh it out to
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give a little bit more immersion for your players who are going to be playing in it.
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What are we looking for? What kind of things should we be
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trying to, either target or maybe questions
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that we want to ask ourselves as far as that goes.
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>> Doug Grosser: So it really comes down to who you and your players
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are. And that's actually one of the reasons why to make a world,
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sometimes you just want to be able to try something out.
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So one of my favorite systems is, the
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One Quiet Year where literally you end up
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building a world. It'by a very narrow concept, but
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you build a world season by season by having individuals
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come in, by having events happen. And then you can
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help create something that brings that immersion
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together. So it is something that it is not
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necessarily automatically going to be done, but is
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something that you can help build towards.
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>> Skylar: Yes, absolutely. I'seen, I listened to in the
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Adventure Zone. They did the One Quiet Year for one of their campaigns. And
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it was really, really cool to be able to hear all
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of them. The, dm, which is usually
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Griffin, and then of course his brothers
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and dad, who were all the players, working
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together, playing through this quiet year to use it
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as a way to build the world that they would
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inevit to be playing with. the D and D rul set, I think, is
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what they used, to build the world
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first and then play into it, which was really
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cool. And I know Cameron and I have both talked about
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we really got to do that sometime. We got to try this out and
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play into it. So maybe that'be something we'll do in the
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future.
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>> Doug Grosser: Funny thing is, Cameron already has some experience because one of the
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campaigns that he and I are in where I'm DMing, we did
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that and we're in a space campaign with it.
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So it is not something that is so narrow
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that you have to be able to have it in one setting. Because that's another thing
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for worlding too. You could want to explore a genre.
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You don't have to just be D and D. You could
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do a space campaign, a space
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opera that does various other systems.
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You could be able to do a heist, world or
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just like a small narrow setting for Blades in the Dark, one
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of those various other systems. There's the whole Daggerhard
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rule set that's coming out soon. That you can also be able to look
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at a more narrow set while still fantasy, but looking
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at a new area that has not been
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done before.
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>> Skylar: Yeah, absolutely. And I guess with that kind of
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playing off of that. Right. So systems aren't necessarily
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directly tied to the world building element. They are
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kind of built towards a theme. As
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you mentioned, if you want to run something within the world of avr,
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Last Airbender, use Avatar Legends, the system,
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because it's built to handle that. We talked a lot about this in
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our last sessions, Zero University, where we talked all about
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systems and running them for
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different purposes and Blades in the Dark, it's
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fantastic for heist. With that being said, that doesn't
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necessarily have to limit the world that
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you build them within. Just because D
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and D is built for the forgotten reals, that doesn't mean that you can't handle
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your own personal world sort of within a fantasy,
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medieval fantasy to some extent theme. And of course
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people have done some other crazy stuff,
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superheroes and modern day stuff and whatnot within the D and
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D, rule set. But with that being said, Doug, if
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I can ask, what is the sort of benefit
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between, you know, obviously these systems a lot of
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times create worlds, but what benefit is
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it for me to sit down and start to make and create
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my own world to put that system
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into so it can.
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>> Doug Grosser: Go hand in hand of what you want to be able to do
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and using those systems. But you can also use those systems to help
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create your world. We'll get into that in a little bit. But by being able to
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have your own world in play, you can be able
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to help formulate what will work out best for
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your system. If you are looking for that medieval
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setting, the one that everybody goes to is for
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D&D5E. Or you could look at Pathfinder or
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something similar in that vein, but you don, you may not want
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to Do a world that is just tied to
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medieval times. You want to be in the future. You want to be able
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to focus on something that'in space. They have a bunch
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of Star wars tabletop RPGs that you can be able to use
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their systems. Hell, you could even try to make your own.
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One of the ones that actually funny that you mentioned in Adventures. So
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they actually made their own system for this latest
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one, which is this superhero Saturday morning
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cartoon version where its's essentially like a D8
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system. You roll it and if you get above a 4, you
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succeed. But this world is specifically
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like. Theyre called Abnables because theyre basically the
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humanoid animals that have abs because theyre super buff and
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strong. But that they created that world,
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from inspiration, from the real world.
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And then they created that system around it. But you can
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also do something in reverse. And I'll get into that in a little
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bit when we talk about actually how do you set up a world?
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>> Skylar: Yes, absolutely. It's funny though, I know we both, have
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used, Adventure Zone as kind of examples within so far
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with this. And I know I've used it several times in the past. Just obviously big
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fans of, the stuff that they're creating over there.
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>> Doug Grosser: Right, Exactly.
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>> Skylar: Awesome. So what of before we jump into some of the
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more detailed stuff? Because we keep saying,
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we'll talk about that here in a second. what should be the goal of
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this class before we just jump into things? Right.
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>> Doug Grosser: Yes. So the goal of this class is I'm not going
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to give you a world. I will give you an example world
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with which is my own. But at the end of the day, it is not going
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to be something that will be 100% flesh out. I'm not going to give you a
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lore document or something that has a big long
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history and all these individual places. What I'm going to give you
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are the tools that help you start making your own
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world or start making places that you
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can expand into a world. A good way to think about
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it is that for this world building, you're going to start using
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your senses, the five senses of seeing, hearing tast,
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smelling and feeling. What are you
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actually seeing here? What is in your world?
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What are you hearing? Why is it, looking this
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way? what's on the air and why is it so
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maybe accurate or very moist? What is
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causing all this stuff to happen? It helps with a lot of
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the what questions. And while we'get into like some
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questions that help the lore side, the why and the how it
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won't give you the individual places just yet.
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Itl ll give you a point where you can use your own inspiration
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and then bloom it into your own
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place.
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>> Skylar: Right? Right. Because story isn't
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necessarily the world. Correct.
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The world is everything that's around
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you. But the story develops within the
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World S.A.C.T. and honestly, that's part of
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what you're about to create. with the people that you're going to sit down with
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and play inside of this world is the stories that inhabit this
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world.
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>> Doug Grosser: Right. And some of those ideas of what you want to tell
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for a story can help bloom a thought so
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that you can be able to help create this world. But it is not the
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full way to get from A to Z. It
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won't help you do that. It will help you give you those
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individual points that your players can go to. Whether it be from A
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to B or maybe A to F or A to
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2. It'completely random. Because
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your players will want to develop the story along with you.
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>> Skylar: Absolutely. It's sort of part of the skeleton. Right. You're going to have
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the mechanics of the game that is part of the Mechan M. Well, that's
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the skeleton of the game aspect of
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TTRPGs. But building your world is going to be the
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skeleton towards the story and how that's all going to
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get set up.
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>> Doug Grosser: Yes.
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>> Skylar: Exactly like it. Very cool. So when should we be making a
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world? When should I decide to myself I'm going toa make a
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world and we're going toa use it for a
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ttrpg.
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>> Doug Grosser: Yeah. So the best time to actually be able to make a world
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is when you're trying to do those one shots. When you're trying to
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plan something out that's a little bit on the smaller scale
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you, can help control. maybe you have this point of
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inspiration. You went on a grand trip, to let's
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say Hawaii. And you found this beautiful,
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green, canyon area that's almost.
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They call it the Grand Canyon of the Pacific called the
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Yimei Valley. And then you're like, I like that.
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I want to be able to put that into a place. I want to use
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that, pulling on my own inspiration of what I've done
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in the past. You want to be able to help create a place
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that your players can also have that awe
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inspiration. Absolutely. And then it a
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place that either you or your players want to be.
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Maybe someplace interesting or at least something that will
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be able to help develop the story.
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>> Skylar: Absolutely. Obviously you want to play. We talked about this
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before in previous episodes, but you want to play something that you, as the dm,
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are going to fall in love with, but you also obviously want your players to fall in
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love with. So if you're going to build a world, make sure it's something that
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everybody can enjoy and not just something that
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you're building this, you're not writing yourself a book.
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You're not writing a book built on exactly how
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you want things. Because at the end of the day, your players are going to go into this world
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and things are going to change, things are going to happen and they're going
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toa be a little bit out of your control, to be honest with you. So,
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yeah, you don't want to definitely, lock yourself in by just saying,
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I'm just going to create this world. And it's like, well, what's the point of having
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these players in there if it's going to be exactly the way that you want it? You want
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to keep it loose, right?
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>> Doug Grosser: Solo D and D is basically writing a book. That's all it is.
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>> Skylar: Exactly. And there are some interesting solo
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TTRPGs that I've been sort of noticing a little bit
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here and there lately. But even those, it's already kind of like some pre
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established stuff anyway. That's beside the point.
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>> Doug Grosser: And for the writers out there, you can definitely use these techniques to help you
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build your world and then maybe, create a
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novel from it or eventually go into the
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TTRPG aspect.
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>> Skylar: Absolutely, yeah. This is a dual,
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purpose here, this whole class. Right. You don't have to. This
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isn't just for TTRPG creators. This is for everybody
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who's trying to make their own interesting worlds. All
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right, so I'm, a gm, obviously.
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I've run a lot of campaigns. Most of what I do
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is homebrew. And so I'm always looking
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for tips and tricks and ways,
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to build or techniques. You could even say to
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worldill because it's a lot, it's a lot to
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handle, it's a lot to take on. So what would you
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advise as far as. So let's go right from the
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beginning, right? We're setting up. We've seen something that's
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inspired us. Kind of like you mentioned with the Hawaii thing, I want to
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start building a world that surrounds us. Where should I start?
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>> Doug Grosser: So before anything, before you even start
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building the world building points, you need to have
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some way of documenting it. You need to be able to have some way
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to be able to let yourself know in the future or Even
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start to help put your idea onto a
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pen and paper on the laptop, a chisel and stone. It doesn't matter.
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You just need something to write down. Now there may be
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revisions along the way. You might help develop it. As you start
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writing it down and youre like, oh wait, no, itd be cool if I could be able to add
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this or Ah, that doesn't make sense. I want to probably
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you shouldn't have that part, but you need some way to be able to
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know what it is and then be able to go back to it. Anytime
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I make a world anytime. And it's the same thing for
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DMs who are making a session. Anyime you start
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any of this stuff, you need to have a design document.
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Now you don't have to have 20,000 pages.
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You don't need to have a novel that goes through it. But it just has to
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have some definition of what you're
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doing, what this is, where this is, how
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this is, things like that. You don't have to necessarily answer
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them all in that immediate when you create it, you just
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have to be able to have the framework.
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>> Skylar: Absolutely, absolutely. Start with yeah,
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basics, keep it small. And then we're going to
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work outwards.
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>> Doug Grosser: Right. And so diving into that,
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going from that point, with a good transition.
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So now you have the framework, you have a
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document, you're inspired. What can you do?
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Well, the great thing about human imagination is that it is
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limitless. You can imagine anything being in
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space while breathing underwater at the same time. How
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is that happen? Nobody knows. Its'just happening.
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But to be able to help make your world and help
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make it be a place, you have to make
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boundaries. Your world can be infinite. It could be the
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whole galaxy if you wanted to. If you
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dont help boundary it now
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even that, you could help, you can make a universe and thats
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your world building and you just start having those external
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boundaries. But you dont want to start allowing
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yourself to just keep going and building without having
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something there. And thats where I create one of the things that
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helped me in making either Acer Room or other things in the
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past is what I like to call the House of the World
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method, which is essentially you are creating
20:01
five boundaries. You'creating four walls and then a
20:04
fifth ceiling, which. The fifth ceiling, we'get into
20:07
that in a little bit. But so to help
20:09
establish your world, the first thing that I always try to
20:12
do is what are the in game, in
20:15
universe physical laws you want to establish
20:18
are these, these are the ideas of magic.
20:21
And technology, can you actually individuals,
20:24
can they fly in, like, thinking of anime,
20:27
are. Is this the world of, my hero academemia?
20:30
And everybody has quirks, people have superpowers.
20:33
Or is it something that is more grounded in reality,
20:36
even using our own world as the
20:38
point? Where are those physical laws?
20:42
>> Skylar: Yes. Does gravity exist or kind
20:45
of have the ability to float around? And obviously there are gonna be
20:48
things that stem from that, which is what's really exciting. Right. I
20:50
even saw, recently, I saw on some subreddit,
20:53
somebody was asking the question, they're like, well, in a world full.
20:56
And I'm glad that you used the my hero academia in a world full of
20:59
people with superpowers, what are going to be like those jobs
21:02
that just either don't make sense or absolutely
21:05
suck at that point. Right. And people were talking about. They're like,
21:08
well, defense lawyers. That's notn toa be a fun
21:11
job. Because how are you going to be able to prove that this person wasn't under
21:14
the, effects of, mind control or something
21:17
along those lines, you know what I mean? And I was like, you know,
21:20
that's kind of what goes into that whole.
21:23
You got to create that framework for the rules and
21:26
what's going on in this world. Or how does the world. Is it going to
21:28
work with whatever it is that you're kind of jumping into?
21:31
Right? And those are the questions that you ask yourself. And the beauty of it
21:34
is, it's not a problem. Right. It's not
21:37
a bad thing to ask those questions. Be like, ooh, I'm challenged by this
21:40
question. That is going to help you build. That's going to
21:43
you help you say, well, to combat that
21:46
fact, I'm going to have to put something in place that
21:49
logically would stem in this world that logically would happen and
21:52
inevitably kind of work its way into the system. Because
21:54
people in this world would see that and say,
21:57
oh, we need to fix that, you know, or we need a
22:00
rule for when that happens. You know, that's why we have laws and
22:03
things like that. But. Right. Sorry, I'm getting way out of. No, you're out
22:05
of line here.
22:06
>> Doug Grosser: No, that is perfect. Because that is. You don't have to answer those questions
22:09
in this building of the framework. But those are good points
22:12
to even help, like, build your story or build what
22:15
will develop inside this world. But that is something
22:18
that you want to establish. Is this like a world of superheroes?
22:21
Or is this a world of, life and death, a
22:24
world of gods, just something that's physical, that you
22:27
can be able to understand. And then from that point we
22:30
talked about the physical laws. But the next wall is
22:33
what about the metaphysical laws that you want to establish the things that
22:36
are not specifically in the world but what you are
22:38
doing. So is there a game system that you want to be
22:41
able to use? Is there something that you were inspired by
22:44
that, oh, this will help me develop my world or this
22:47
aligns with what I want to be able to tell with this physical
22:50
world. And maybe theres s not. Maybe there's something that
22:53
you want to either homebrew or something that you just
22:56
havent found yet. And thats okay. That is something that you
22:59
now have a door rather than ah, a full wall. It is
23:02
something that you will develop along the line and you
23:05
just need that inspiration.
23:06
>> Skylar: And ideally you explore that idea too. And not just like
23:10
slap A, were going to do D and D on this one, you know.
23:12
>> Doug Grosser: Right, exactly. And that slap and D and D. A lot
23:15
of people think, oh, now I have to make a sandbox world and
23:18
be ready for anything and everything. But that's not
23:21
necessarily the case. You can make something that is specific
23:24
for your campaign or an event. Like when you're
23:27
making a world you. And this will actually tie into one of the
23:30
later ones. You don't have to just make literally a
23:33
world. Your world can be as small as a
23:36
day camp. It doesn, it doesn't have to be
23:38
huge. It is just something that your
23:41
players are at the whats and the where
23:44
that they can be able to establish.
23:46
>> Skylar: Absolutely. And the mechanics will work around those things.
23:49
And that's the beauty of it. You don't have to make these broad
23:52
mechanics that could work for any given situation
23:55
potentially. And it's something we've talked about on previous episodes.
23:58
When you get super broad with the mechanics, you end up
24:01
losing a lot of that sort of personality that
24:04
the game has. Right. You can get really specific
24:07
and say we're at day camp. Right. You got to roll this
24:09
check to see how well your campfire works or something
24:12
like that or how fast you can canoe. And you've got a whole
24:15
mechanic set up for, you know, you racing your canoe
24:18
against, the other teams canoe and seeing
24:21
who gets to the other end of the lake first.
24:24
>> Doug Grosser: Right, Exactly. And those metaphysical laws, the
24:26
game system can help you establish what that physical
24:29
world is. Because now you're. If you are doing
24:32
something that is with superheroes, you can use a game system
24:35
that like some of the Powered By Apoc, the Apocalypse,
24:38
superhero Stuff you can use that system that to help
24:41
you develop that world. Or there could be
24:44
stuff that you just don't have yet. And that's okay.
24:47
Not everything has to be established right from the get go.
24:50
A world is ever building. That is one thing I'll
24:52
touch upon again. A world progresses. You do not
24:55
have to have everything set in stone. A world
24:58
is not made of stone. It could be made of water. A world could
25:01
be made of molten, earth that is
25:04
still flowing like our own. Things will
25:07
change, absolutely. But that is okay.
25:10
But some of the things that you want to know before you continue
25:13
on is what are you trying to accomplish? What is the
25:16
theme or the genre of this world? This
25:19
goes back to that physical property. Is this like a
25:22
cyberpunk fantasy? Is this something that you are now in
25:24
the advanced technology stages? Or is it something that
25:27
is back to that medieval section? Is it something that is more
25:30
aligned with D and D? What is the timef frame that
25:33
you are in now? You can be able to have
25:36
it so that in the future, if this is a sandbox world,
25:39
you could have it so that it'll eventually develop into one of
25:42
those future ones. Like one of my favorite
25:44
authors, Brandon Sanderson, he has the whole Misborn
25:47
trilogy, It starts, or it's actually a
25:51
sixology, a dual tril trilogy. But you have the
25:54
original trilogy of Mistborn that you have this
25:56
medieval setting and then it goes on into this
26:00
kind of cyber. Not cyberpunk, but most
26:02
steampunk, almost like advanced
26:05
technology. And that is something that you can be able to
26:08
help evolve as your world evolves as well.
26:11
But what do you start with? What is your technology when
26:14
you're telling the story, when you'developing this world?
26:17
>> Skylar: Absolutely, absolutely. I mean, yeah, you
26:20
can. You're not limited by any means to a singular
26:23
genre per se. I mean, obviously you want to make things logical, you want
26:26
to make things flow nicely. So it's kind of weird when
26:29
you have a sci fi world over here with UFOs and
26:32
lasers that can destroy entire buildings and then you've got a m medieval society
26:35
that exists over on the other side of the world
26:38
and somehow they're still alive even though the laser
26:41
beam people don't like them, and could
26:44
easily just wipe them out with a nuclear destruction or
26:47
something in seconds.
26:48
>> Doug Grosser: Exactly. And the other thing too that this can really help
26:51
establish is a theme. And this theme could not,
26:54
and I don't mean just like a social theme like,
26:56
oh, evil is bad and we have to conquer and rule
26:59
out all evil. I mean, like, it could be a physical theme. So, like, for
27:02
example, another big inspiration for me is the
27:05
dimension 20.
27:06
>> Skylar: Dimension 20?
27:07
>> Doug Grosser: Yeah. Yep. So one of the ones that they did that I adore, one of
27:10
the campaigns was a crown of candy.
27:12
Essentially it is a world where everybody
27:15
is a food object. Like there are
27:18
sugar people, there are vegetable people, there are
27:21
meat people, there are dairy people. And that
27:24
can be a theme that's just an interesting topic to be able to
27:27
talk about. And that could be just something you think about.
27:29
>> Skylar: Yeah, absolutely. And that's creating a whole new world in and of
27:32
itself. Right. Like, it's bizarre where you can
27:35
draw inspiration from, but it's also really
27:38
interesting to see where people have managed to draw inspiration
27:41
from. Like one day they just popped open the fridge and they
27:44
looked at their items and they said, what if these were like
27:47
kingdoms and you had different people
27:50
from different kingdoms that represent. By the food group?
27:53
It's crazy to think about, but it's really cool. With that
27:56
being said, obviously you're the gm, you or DM or
27:58
whatever, and you're creating this world that you're going to set your players
28:01
into. But what about your players? How are they going to impact the
28:04
world, in some way, shape or form? Are they going to contribute to the
28:07
world building in some way? Or are they kind of locked in?
28:10
>> Doug Grosser: So that depends on what you're trying to establish. Again, it goes
28:12
back to how you're setting up this world. Is it something
28:15
that will start as a sandbox that you'll bring your players
28:18
in and then they can help develop from the inside? This is just the
28:21
framework. You could have it so that the framework is built by
28:24
multiple people, so that it's not just
28:26
you putting up the walls for this world. You can
28:29
have people come in as well, but that's what you
28:32
establish from the beginning. Is this going to be. That's part of the
28:35
metaphysical thing. Is this something that you establish or
28:38
is this something that you have other people
28:41
collaborate on?
28:42
>> Skylar: Right, right.
28:43
>> Doug Grosser: And speaking of, ah, collaborating with people,
28:46
and then bringing them in, what is the state
28:49
of the world? Is the final wall? Is
28:52
this a big world like we were mentioning before? Is this
28:54
a whole universe? Or is this just a DC Cam?
28:57
Is the city the size of a country, like some of
29:00
the, for D and D and magic, the gathering, the
29:03
Ravnica stuff? Or is it just a village with about a dozen
29:06
people? And that's all we're focusing on by
29:08
establishing what the state of the world what size it
29:11
is. You can help be able to get those
29:14
ideas into one place and help move it
29:17
forward.
29:18
>> Skylar: Absolutely, absolutely. So just going over
29:20
everything that we talked about before. So five boundaries.
29:23
This is the house of the world. Right. What are the
29:26
physical laws that you want to establish? That's one of those walls. What
29:29
are the metaphysical laws? That's kind of your outside
29:32
metagame. the more technical aspect of the
29:35
mechanics of the world that you're going to be in. You've got
29:38
the theme or genre, which of course
29:41
it is what it is. Is it sci fi, is it fantasy, so on and so
29:44
forth. What is the state of the world and the size of
29:47
it, which we were just talking about? And then is the world
29:50
a vacuum?
29:51
>> Doug Grosser: Yes, that is the ceiling. And the thing
29:54
about the is the world of vacuum is the question
29:57
of are you using your own stuff?
30:00
Is this 100% homebrew or like
30:02
Avatar legends? Are you using that with
30:05
this roof? This as. Is this already a pre
30:08
established roof of what you can be able to do? You're in a world of
30:11
avatar, you have air bisons,
30:14
you have benders and things like that. What
30:17
are you limited by? Or is it.
30:19
>> Skylar: I love that metaphor so much. The roof.
30:22
The roof is where you're like kind of stopping
30:25
yourself at as far as what you're drawing the inspiration
30:28
from. and where you're going toa.
30:29
>> Doug Grosser: Take that.
30:29
>> Skylar: That's cool.
30:30
>> Doug Grosser: Y.
30:30
>> Skylar: Sorry, I just needed it. I just needed to chime in there. That was awesome.
30:33
>> Doug Grosser: No, that's perfect. And it helps establish what is
30:36
happening. So.
30:37
>> Skylar: Right, right.
30:38
>> Doug Grosser: So now you have a framework. Now
30:41
you have what it is that is
30:44
here, but it is a shell. It does not have
30:47
things that have detail. It does not have the color of what
30:50
you want. You have ideas. But now you have to
30:52
start building in. This is where the next step
30:55
comes in. This is world detail. this is
30:58
where you take your boundaries and then you either
31:01
start big and go small, or start
31:04
small and go big and. Well dive into both of
31:07
those in just a sec. So for example,
31:09
if you start small and go big, this
31:12
is something I like to call ballooning.
31:14
>> Doug Grosser: You start with a single small thing,
31:17
an item, a person, a place of
31:19
establishment. Then you start
31:22
increasing in scope, you start going out and
31:25
circling what exactly is happening in
31:28
this area. So one of the examples that Ive ve
31:31
done for acerum acerm in this
31:33
world, I wanted to be able to have an
31:36
individual or maybe a group of individuals that
31:39
are a protector and group people who
31:42
Actually come and be able to help others. So
31:45
start there. Okay, how are they
31:48
actually going to protect the people? Well, they'going to
31:51
travel around and they'going to have methods of being able to
31:54
do that and they'going to have to have, you know,
31:57
places of establishment. They're going to have to go to
31:59
either base camps or things of that nature.
32:03
As they go to those places, how are they viewed in those
32:06
areas? Are they seen with
32:08
good or ill intent? Are they people that
32:11
people want to have or are they
32:14
shunned? And then once they are
32:17
there, how are they doing it? What are they doing
32:19
in those areas? So as you can
32:22
see, by ballooning, you can help create those plot hooks and things
32:25
that will want people to understand. Oh,
32:28
so what is going on over there? What is
32:30
happening? And so interesting. So that
32:33
helps.
32:34
>> Skylar: Yeah, no, I love that. I love that. Yeah, start small, go big.
32:36
Right. And I love that. your example is honestly a
32:39
perfect one, right? These people are traveling
32:42
around to do their duty as,
32:44
protectors, right? So you're taking the small
32:47
group, you're establishing them as kind of the baseline
32:50
where your world is kind of building from.
32:53
They're traveling around, you say, okay, they travel to this place. What
32:56
is this place like? What is their culture like? How, like you said,
32:59
how do they feel about these protectors? Do they like them, do they
33:02
dislike them? What are they being protected
33:05
from? In this case, right now you've got another city
33:07
or another place that you've established and you've built a chunk of world. Now
33:10
these protectors travel to the next place, they start to
33:13
help you build within that next place that you're going to be,
33:16
adding to your world, right?
33:18
>> Doug Grosser: And like a balloon, whether you're inflating it or say you
33:21
are the individual and you're rising up on the balloon, you don't
33:24
just see a single line going in one direction. You see
33:27
things overall in all sides
33:30
starting to expandute. in the same example, when I
33:33
was grading this group, when they are protecting, what
33:36
are they protecting it from? Well, we were talking
33:39
about how they'going to these different areas. Well, they're protecting it,
33:42
from these outside forces. This world is
33:45
meant for D and D. So it's protecting them from the planes?
33:48
Well, they're protecting from the planes what is in the world
33:50
already to help protect them. Are they doing it themselves?
33:53
Well, there are established spires that
33:56
help create this almost invisible shield that protects from
33:59
the outside world from coming in, things like that. And that is
34:02
something that was developed as you balloon out just to
34:05
be able to have that inspiration. And then with that
34:08
group, you can be able to see a bigger picture
34:10
of what they do.
34:11
>> Skylar: Absol. Wow.
34:12
>> Doug Grosser: And so now weve got start and small going
34:15
big.
34:16
>> Skylar: Well, or is it big to small now?
34:18
>> Doug Grosser: Yes, exactly. This is now what I like to call
34:21
diving youe diving into something. One of
34:24
my favorite examples is, in this
34:27
world there is an area of magic that
34:30
is more concentrated than anywhere else. And that
34:33
is where it came out to the kingdom of
34:35
either. You know, just the typical
34:38
thing that you would see in any kind of fantasy genre.
34:41
So you have this kingdom of either. Okay,
34:44
cool. Well, so what are they trying
34:46
to. What are they. Are they a
34:49
like power hungry organization or are they, you
34:52
know, peaceful? Well, I was thinking when
34:55
you have a bunch of magic in one place, sometimes youre not
34:58
satisfied with just that. So theyre ever expanding. Well,
35:00
okay, so lets dive more into that. If they are
35:04
power hungry, how are they set up? Is it something that you have
35:07
a hierarchy or is it a monarchy? Well,
35:10
with it being so power hungry, youre thinking, okay,
35:13
there has to be somebody on top, somebody who is the best. But there is
35:16
this drive to be better than other people. So there
35:19
are these layers, there are these teiers that
35:21
people want to be in and thats where there is a various
35:24
hierarchy system. That is there where you have
35:27
the highest of the high, the king archanaum, who
35:30
is the top of magic. And then you have the slowly
35:33
scribes who are trying to get up to that location.
35:36
Okay, diving in more. Okay, so
35:39
how do the people inside this kingdom,
35:41
inside this, let'say the capital, feel about
35:44
this? Well, if they'all
35:47
knowing this and knowing that they are the
35:50
most magical of the people and that they are the
35:53
best, well, they're probably going to be pretty arrogant. They're probably going to
35:56
be those individuals who are like, oh, I'm better than everybody else, so
35:59
I don't want anybody else to be able to come up to my
36:01
location. Well, that's a really, really cool
36:04
idea. But is everybody like
36:07
this? Well, diving in deeper. No, it
36:10
in this area, not everybody is that
36:13
grand magician or has a
36:16
great amount of magic. There'still people.
36:19
Everybody is different. And not everybody is just naturally
36:22
talented with magic. And then you
36:24
know that you have that. Will you dive even deeper?
36:27
Is there an individual
36:30
that feels this way that might not be
36:33
just okay with it?
36:35
And it turns out no, people don't
36:38
like it when you're stepping on them. And that's where
36:41
I created the individual who creates
36:44
this other organization, it was
36:47
called the Ink Stained. Those who are seened
36:50
as a blemish on the society. And
36:53
because they are inked with, the lack of
36:56
magic, they are, gathering others who
36:59
feel this discontent, and they want to be able to do
37:01
something.
37:02
>> Skylar: Wow.
37:24
Yeah. It's amazing how much can stem
37:27
out of that. And like you said, just because you're
37:29
starting big, right, you don't have a lot of detail yet,
37:32
Right. You've got a very broad concept, and then you're just
37:35
diving in and in and in. It's like zooming in on Google
37:38
Maps, right? Like, you've got w. This is the whole United States of
37:41
America. I'm gonna click this one spot, and you zoom in. Oh, there's
37:44
the borders that I can see for the city or the
37:47
states. Zoom in a little bit more. Okay. Now I'm seeing cities
37:50
pop up, names of cities. Zoom in a little bit more and a little bit more
37:53
until you can see the street view, and you're seeing
37:56
people and you're seeing houses and you're seeing
37:58
decorations and, greenery or whatever
38:01
else. And yeah, so it's amazing how much detail
38:04
can start to spawn from starting so big. And
38:07
I would argue that this is actually exactly how I created the, Criminals of
38:10
Violinuma campaign. We're playing through, for session
38:13
zero, Heroes is I set up. I said, okay, the
38:16
entire thing is going to take place in the city of
38:18
Isaumis. So I said, here's my city. And then I said,
38:21
okay, what districts exist within the city? Because not
38:24
everybody is just part of. This is one big city.
38:26
It's a lot to just throw up my players to say, this is just one big
38:29
area. Here you go. So I was like, I need to break it down
38:32
somehow and help establish a little bit of, the
38:35
different cultures that are going on within the city. So then I made
38:38
the districts, and then in each district, you say, what's going on in
38:41
each district? What exists in each district that could become plot
38:44
points for the players to play in. And then you just dive
38:47
deeper and deeper and deeper. So I love that. I dove. I dove,
38:50
Doug.
38:50
>> Doug Grosser: Yeah, you dove really hard. And that is what the
38:53
diving is really good for. Diving is really good for
38:56
starting. Creating your starting point, making it so that
38:59
your players know what is happening at this
39:02
location. You have an idea of what's happening in the
39:05
surrounding, even if the players are only familiar
39:08
with the one point at this point.
39:10
>> Skylar: Absolutely, absolutely. And then you can, of course, take
39:13
something specific that you create
39:15
within your bigger picture
39:18
and then you can balloon it and say okay,
39:21
let's expand on this. It's a small, It's a fragment piece
39:23
inside of here. But I think it's really important and I want to focus on
39:26
that for a little bit. So we're going to balloon that specific
39:29
element and we're going to let that kind of help build.
39:32
Honestly, it sounds like you go. You can start
39:35
from either way but it sounds like you can use both
39:37
methods throughout your world building process.
39:40
>> Doug Grosser: Exactly. And you will, it will help you once you start
39:43
big and go small, once you start having those cocentric
39:46
circles of all the things that touch this ones
39:49
point, you can start on those small points and
39:51
then expand them out. Once I created that
39:54
individual who is now the leader of this ink
39:57
stained well. Now lets expand out
40:00
what they have and so this is where some inspiration
40:03
can be able to come in and help you establish what that is.
40:06
there, there was a class that I saw that
40:09
was basically called the War Mage. And the War Mage
40:12
is different in most D and D settings where they dont
40:15
have access to leveled spells. They only can do
40:18
cantrips. But cantrips is what they do. Right?
40:21
And that is the idea of well not everybody is
40:24
good at this magic. Nobody can do these higher level
40:26
spells. But the basics, the things that everybody can be able to
40:29
do, the firebolts and the pres theigitations and
40:32
all that stuff they can do really well.
40:35
Where you start expanding that out algh they have these
40:38
individuals. What can you be able to do for those
40:41
individuals? in the actual class they are
40:43
actually organized by the order of. They used
40:46
chess pieces. So the order of the rook, the order of
40:49
the bishop, the order of the
40:52
pawn, the various other individuals.
40:54
Well how do these individual organizations get along with
40:57
each other? How do they get along with everybody else? Well,
41:00
they get along for the most part okay with themselves,
41:03
but everybody else is kind of an enemy. Well then
41:06
now expanding it out, how does everybody else feel about them?
41:09
Do they know about them? Is this a secret organization? Is
41:12
it something thats actually in the town or is it something that
41:15
is puppeted or outside of it?
41:18
That is kind of the idea that you can
41:20
dive and then balloon into
41:23
various hooks, into various plot
41:26
ideas, into various stories that you can be able to
41:28
tell?
41:29
>> Skylar: Yeah, I love it. I love it. Makes me think of like cliff
41:32
divers. You dive off the cliff and then they get into the
41:35
water and then they're like oh yeah, you know this is deep water. I'm go going toa
41:38
activate like what, some kind of inflatable suit to
41:41
bring them back up so that they can go do it again.
41:44
>> Doug Grosser: Exactly. But the nice thing about this is that you don't get the bends as you
41:47
dive and rise.
41:48
>> Skylar: That's right, that's right. Awesome, awesome.
41:51
Fantastic. So we talked earlier about lore
41:54
and we said that, you know, world building isn't lore,
41:57
but I would say that Lore to some extent is world
42:00
building.
42:00
>> Doug Grosser: Right. I will 100% agree. It is nice to
42:03
be able to have your standing point of where you are right
42:06
now. But how you got to that point can also influence
42:09
how your world is. If you think of, you know, the famous
42:12
example as critical role and how right now,
42:15
like they just got done with their third campaign and now theyre
42:17
looking into the divergence that how everything had
42:20
become. Well, Matt Mercer had
42:23
all this idea before they even dived
42:26
into it. And that was all developed because of the lore.
42:29
>> Doug Grosser: And there are things to be able to help you with that. So
42:32
for me, what I do is that I have two methods as
42:35
well. very similar to the balloon
42:38
and dive, except I like to call them as if you're looking on a Google
42:40
map, the pinch and the spread.
42:43
So the first one, the pinch, is essentially you start at
42:46
either the beginning or you start at an event and then
42:49
you pinch down. And like a pinch, you start wide and
42:52
you goes narrow.
42:53
>> Doug Grosser: So that is where at the beginning I knew I
42:56
wanted to be able to have magic in this world. Okay,
42:59
where did magic start? Okay, it started before
43:02
everything else happened, before this world was
43:05
established. Well, it started, before everything
43:07
was established. What was there? What was the inciting event?
43:10
It's the gods. Like almost everything that seems
43:13
to happen, it's the gods who helped develop the magic
43:16
that came into here. Okay, cool. The gods have
43:19
magic. How did we get it? Well, now you narrow it
43:22
down. Well, it's not as if the you could
43:25
have divinity. And that's where like clerics and things like that come
43:28
in. But what about the regular man? How do we do that?
43:31
In the world of Asram, what ends up happening is that
43:34
you have people who help essentially write
43:37
the language of magic and they wrote it down into
43:40
what's known as the prime tomes. So
43:42
in for those who don't know, in D and D, there are
43:45
various classes or various, schools of
43:48
magic. And those schools of magic, transmutation,
43:51
necromancy, conjuration, things like that.
43:54
In this world, those schools are the
43:57
tomes. This Tome of conjuration
44:00
is all that has ever been for
44:03
conjuration. But like most magic, it can
44:06
expand, it can change and do that stuff. So its'an ever writing
44:09
tone. So okay, so we have these
44:11
tomes. Who were they written by? Well,
44:14
these are the individuals who are known as
44:17
the arcane, settlers. They settled
44:20
how magic works, they settled where the
44:23
arcane comes from. Okay, cool. Now they'the ones who
44:26
do it. How did they spread it? How did they actually
44:29
figure out who gets what? Well
44:32
like everybody else who is here right now, they went to school,
44:35
they created their school and thats how they have
44:38
the various colleges throughout the land. And
44:41
these schools help develop others where
44:44
they are now, how they can be able to actually
44:47
do conjuration, transmutation, things like that.
44:50
>> Skylar: That's awesome. That's awesome. Gotta
44:53
go learn at the school that you want to learn the specifics from.
44:56
Rightact. If you want to do conjuration magic, you're going to go down
44:59
to the conjuration school.
45:00
>> Doug Grosser: Exactly. And this is great for establishing those
45:03
places. Now you have a college where
45:06
these can happen. And then after you do that, now you
45:09
have a big overview. You have a college now. Now you can
45:12
dive in, go back to the other methods that we have done. You can
45:15
dive into that college and see, all right, we're at
45:18
that college. All right, who's at the top? Who are the
45:21
faculty members? Who is the
45:23
nerd that everybody pokes fun at? Things like
45:26
that. Yes. These help establish
45:29
the points where you can also do the other methods that we talked
45:32
about.
45:32
>> Skylar: Absolutely. And then there's a little bit of logic to it that kind helps you stem
45:35
out. Right. If there's a college here, well, where are people living? Are
45:38
they living in dormitories? And if there's resources,
45:41
here at the college, like where is the college getting its food from?
45:44
Where is it getting its other resources from? Well now
45:47
we've got to design maybe or a village that kind of surrounds
45:50
this college. And then from there you're starting to
45:53
build outwards. You're doing
45:56
the balloon. Re Ballooning. Yes, you're ballooning
45:59
out and adding to that world. But with that being
46:02
said, now we have the spread method which you also
46:05
mentioned.
46:06
>> Doug Grosser: Right. So the spread method is you take an individual point.
46:09
This is great for improers because now you
46:11
are. Oh shoot. Now your players said
46:14
that they are at this tavern now and they're
46:17
chasing this individual for whatever reason. Alrigh.
46:20
That individual is at the tavern. We know that. Lets spread
46:23
out There. Why are they at the tavern? What led them to
46:26
this point? What helped them establish this is why
46:29
theyre here. Okay, so they came here because they'looking
46:32
for a contact. Okay, now lets spread back a little bit more.
46:35
Why do they know that this contact is here? Or how do they know
46:38
that contact was going to be there no matter what? Or are
46:41
they searching for them? Okay, they knew that they were going to be there. They
46:43
got that contact information from higher up.
46:46
Okay, whos that higher up? And then you start spreading out m
46:49
more. And then it doesnt have to be linear. It can be
46:52
like when youre spreading out with your fingers on a map.
46:55
You can see around and all. And when youre
46:58
using more than just two fingers for the spread, you can use
47:00
three or four. There are multiple paths as you spread
47:03
out for how things got to this
47:06
point. It is very good for when youre prepping for a session
47:09
and youre like, oh, shoot, they are here. I had
47:12
established this. Now I gott figure out how they
47:15
can be able to continue from this point in a satisfying way.
47:17
Because now you have a logic that is algh. Im spreading
47:20
out more and more. This is how everything got here. This makes
47:23
sense.
47:24
>> Skylar: Right? Right. So can we use, Because weve already talked a little
47:27
bit earlier about how we use the dive and the balloon
47:30
method together. Is there other combinations that
47:33
we can use to help us with different elements
47:35
of creating our world?
47:37
>> Doug Grosser: Oh, absolutely. Like when we were talking about before, about
47:40
now, we created this balloon and then, this dive all
47:43
in one, or this dive. And now you can balloon up. You will want
47:46
to hybridize these. You will use various other
47:48
ones to help you establish what your world is.
47:52
So one thing that I'd like to be able to do is this dive
47:54
and pinch. You're getting into this
47:57
individual spot and you know exactly what happens.
48:00
It's very good for understanding specific
48:03
areas and being able to have these concepts get
48:06
into a starting point for your players. So, for
48:08
example, you dive down and you pinch down into
48:11
this individual point at this tavern.
48:14
Okay. Everybody is starting from
48:17
big concepts. These, various
48:20
kingdoms that are having problems. Okay, theyre having
48:22
problems. Okay. Whats causing the problem? Okay, so
48:25
in the past, these kingdoms were at a
48:28
warring faction. Okay, that is now you start to pinch.
48:31
Ono that. Okay, theyre warring. Why are they
48:33
warring? Okay, so now they're
48:36
fighting over this resource. Okay, they're fine over this
48:39
resource. Pinch down more. Okay, they're fine over this
48:42
resource. It's still ongoing. Okay, so is
48:45
everybody exhausted? Are they tired? Okay. They're
48:47
wanting this war to end and they, they've been at it for years.
48:50
Okay, you pinc it down more. Okay. So now individuals
48:53
want to be able to start doing it. How are they going to start?
48:56
Are there rebels? Are there individuals who want to be able
48:59
to stop this war at any means necessary? Okay, yesday you
49:02
do. They just want it to be done. And there are factions
49:05
on both sides who just want to get it done. You get
49:08
down to that end point and now you're in a
49:10
tavern and that tavern is housing
49:13
a secret meeting for either
49:16
your. It could be one of your players or could just be happening at the same
49:19
time for your players. That is happening for
49:21
this. And you started with this big concept of
49:24
this warring nations and now you're at
49:27
this individual point, Right?
49:29
>> Skylar: Right, absolutely.
49:31
>> Doug Grosser: Same thing. You can be able to balloon and spread, help create
49:33
those plot and hooks that you will eventually go to.
49:36
Something that your players could hear about but dont necessarily
49:39
have any context for right now. Like for example, you
49:42
start with an individual and you start with how
49:45
the individual, associates with maybe the
49:48
kingdom or maybe the town or something like that. And then you
49:51
start spreading out. Now I know Im'using a lot
49:54
of D and D terminology because very easy to be able to do
49:57
that. But you can also do this for if this is at
50:00
a day camp like the one that we keep going to. You start
50:03
with the individual, the camper whos one of
50:06
your players, and you start there and you start spreading out from
50:09
there. Okay, how do they come to this place? Okay, so
50:12
they are here now. they came here because their
50:15
family wanted them to be able to come, to be able to
50:17
enjoy the day camp. Well, why are they doing it? Do they not have
50:20
time or things like that? Well, no, they don't really have time
50:23
because they have a lot of other things going on. and then
50:26
you help create that backstory for that individual. I was
50:29
same player character. But you could also do it for an npc, things like
50:32
that.
50:32
>> Skylar: Yeah, absolutely. I like how it's kind of keeping
50:35
things open too for yourself as the gm, to let
50:38
your players jump in and kind of help
50:41
modify or change or add to your world as
50:43
well by using their character
50:46
as kind of a starting point to spread from.
50:49
>> Doug Grosser: Exactly. And out of all these
50:52
methods, after you do them, or as you're doing
50:54
them, the one final thing I have to say is
50:57
that you never, while you have your
51:00
framework, your house is never going to be fully
51:02
filled. You do not. I do not go up to my living
51:05
room and I have a, couch on top of a chair, on
51:08
top, on top of a table, on top of a tv.
51:11
My whole house is not filled. I have
51:14
the ability to be able to move around in there. I have the ability
51:17
to build if I need to, or even replace things.
51:20
And that is the one thing that you want to do with your world as well. You want to be
51:23
able to have enough room so that you can also be able to
51:25
do more or, have your players do
51:28
more. You want your world to be able to progress. You
51:31
want your world to not just be stuck in one
51:34
space and time. Your world will continue to
51:37
evolve whether the players are there or not. As long
51:40
as you let the world continue to have time,
51:42
it will go and do things. I,
51:45
I dont think. And this has helped me a lot. I dont think
51:48
worlds should stagnate now. Unless theres like a time curse
51:51
or something that forces your world to stopft, which is a cool
51:54
plot interest, but thats outside of the scope. And then you can also
51:57
start doing that world building up. Why are you at that point?
51:59
>> Skylar: Yeah, absolutely. What created this time? Why did they
52:02
create this time stopper, whatever it is.
52:05
Yeah, exactly. That's very cool. All right.
52:08
So it's a lot of information,
52:11
a lot of incredible information, and hopefully a lot
52:13
of, really definitely a lot of very
52:16
beneficial information for people that are trying to build their world.
52:19
Let's kind of summarize our points, summarize our techniques.
52:22
So that way, hopefully everybody who's sitting here at the end, they're like,
52:25
wow, that was a lot. Let's like reinvigorate, and
52:28
reestablish everything that we've talked about so far.
52:30
>> Doug Grosser: Yes. So a summary of the techniques, the things to
52:33
help you build your world. First things first.
52:36
Create boundaries. Create that house that your world
52:39
will be in once you create that house.
52:42
Exactly. The five walls. Once you have created that
52:45
house, give it details. Pinch down, zoom
52:47
out, balloon dive. Start creating that color that your
52:50
room is. And as you're starting to do
52:53
that, then that's when you blend and
52:56
progress. Once you start getting the color in
52:59
your room, then you leave it for your
53:02
players, for your story, for time, to continue
53:05
to allow you to be inspired and add into that
53:08
room into the future. Those are the techniques to
53:11
be able to do it. And if you take nothing else away from
53:14
here, if you take nothing else on how to build your
53:16
world, I would like to at least leave you with these
53:19
five points. Be inspired
53:22
for Anything that's out there to be able to add into
53:25
your world, be diligent. And not
53:28
just what you're building in that world, but in your
53:31
note taking let you let yourself know five
53:34
years from now, 20 years from now, whenever you go into this
53:37
world, you know why that thing is there. And maybe you
53:39
evolve it. Maybe you have something that's a little
53:42
different. Be interested in your world.
53:45
You want to be there or maybe you want things to
53:48
change in there. But don't just have a
53:51
blank wall. Don't just have a gray
53:54
room that you can be able to do. Allow
53:56
your allow your world to progress.
53:59
Allow there for it to be open and
54:02
flexible for what happens. And that is the final
54:05
thing. Be open to flexibility.
54:07
Be open for your players to be able to help build
54:10
the world. You can start with the framework of the world
54:13
but eventually your world will allow people to come in
54:16
and then you can be able to have that. And
54:19
you got to have that flexibility so that it can be able to
54:22
expand. Otherwise youre making a novel. That
54:25
is all youre doing.
54:26
>> Skylar: Absolutely. Which again, totally fine if you are
54:29
not quite what were going for here exactly.
54:31
>> Doug Grosser: Not for here.
54:32
>> Skylar: Wow, Doug, thank you so much. This has just been
54:35
some incredible, incredible information.
54:38
Just so much and so much help to
54:41
those out there that are trying to build their own worlds. Home breewing I
54:44
I think pretty much right when I learned how to
54:46
play D and D home breewing was
54:49
pretty much my straight go to. I didn't have any of
54:52
the books, any of the pre created campaigns, so
54:55
on and so forth. I just had my own imagination.
54:58
And so I just started building stories within that. I had
55:01
the Monster Manual. So I just kind of used
55:04
that as sort of a base framework for
55:06
creating the worlds and the stories that I wanted to run as a
55:09
dm and so it's, it's awesome to be able
55:12
to hear these amazing tips and tricks and
55:15
direction of all. Oh my gosh. That's one thing that
55:18
every home breewer wants is just like I need direction.
55:21
I have ideas. How do I get them out? How do
55:24
I get them onto paper? How should I structure this?
55:27
And this is exactly what people need to
55:30
help guide them so that they can build the world that they're
55:33
trying to build and fill the world that they're trying to build.
55:35
>> Doug Grosser: Y and by building these worlds you can
55:38
do this either with a book or completely
55:40
homeom. But either way you're going to want to use these
55:43
techniques to help make something memorable. You
55:46
may start with something that is maybe already written
55:49
down. Maybe you are using one of those campaign books, but your
55:52
players are going to, go through and they're going to try to
55:55
see how this world progress. They're never going to follow
55:58
what that book is. And so you got to be able
56:01
to allow your world to expand.
56:03
>> Skylar: Yes, absolutely. Gotta have it. Let it do its
56:06
thing. Let it become more than any one person
56:09
could possibly fill it to be.
56:11
>> Doug Grosser: Exactly.
56:12
>> Skylar: Awesome. Doug, is there anything that you wanted to,
56:14
plug or anything else? I know you talked about your
56:17
own world, which I know is something really cool that you've been working on. I
56:20
know it's not really. I don't know if it's something that you were planning on publishing at
56:23
any point, but is there anything that you wanted, to pitch other than
56:26
that or plug again for, before we jump into
56:29
the intramural game here?
56:31
>> Doug Grosser: Yeah. No, I don't have anything at this time. Maybe in the future I'll
56:34
be able to develop, not only this world and
56:36
publish that, but like the various things that I put into that world
56:39
for my other players to be able to enjoy.
56:42
>> Skylar: Yeah.
56:42
>> Doug Grosser: Absolute nothing.
56:43
>> Skylar: I can't wait to see that. But with that being said, I know that you
56:46
also do some, voice acting work as well. I think anybody that
56:48
listens to this knows you have a phenomenal voice and
56:51
so definitely something worth checking out. I'll definitely
56:54
try to put some kind of a link in case you're somebody with a project
56:57
maybe. I, know you said that you recently actually did some
57:00
narration for a book. So if you're somebody out there
57:02
looking for either a narrator or maybe even
57:05
character voices within your own world building, I think, that
57:08
would be a great way, to plug you as well.
57:10
>> Doug Grosser: Yep. I will have links for you so that
57:13
you can be able to check it out down below.
57:15
>> Skylar: Fantastic. Awesome. All right, Doug, it's time to
57:18
go into our intramural games.
57:24
>> Skylar: It's time for intramurals.
57:27
>> Skylar: All right, well, welcome everybody to the intramural games portion
57:30
of our Sessions Zero University. For those that have listened in
57:33
past, you know, this already. But for those that are maybe new to
57:36
Session Zero University, we like to have a little bit of
57:39
fun at the end of all of our class episodes. You know,
57:42
we just got done learning so much amazing information. It's
57:45
time to take a little bit of a break from learning and just
57:48
kind of have a little bit of a goofy, fun
57:50
time to sort of, play. Right.
57:53
Because that's what we like to do. We like to, pull out a TTRPG and we
57:56
like to play it. so with that being said, we
57:59
are going to be playing a game that Doug and I actually kind of just put
58:02
together before we jumped into this episodert,
58:06
we never really came up with a title for it, but essentially it was based on
58:09
the kind of concept of Jailbreak.
58:13
>> Doug Grosser: Yeah, I thinking a vague extent, I was just
58:16
thinking of a name like Oops.
58:18
>> Skylar: Oops. Oops.
58:19
>> Doug Grosser: Oop. Something happened. We got to figure this out now.
58:22
>> Skylar: oh, we made a stinkyh.
58:26
>> Skylar: O. So with that being said, what we did was we
58:29
wanted to create a. We wanted to plug off
58:32
of the idea of WorldB building. And
58:35
so we created this kind of simple story
58:37
game where we're going to take three prompts,
58:40
we're going to take a setting. So this is going to be
58:43
the, sort of fictional concept,
58:45
right? Is it fantasy, is it sci fi, so on and so
58:48
forth. And then we're going to add int the
58:51
place that it's set in within that theme.
58:54
Then we're going to take a predicament, the problematic
58:57
situation that we are dealing with that we have to
58:59
overcome our character in this situation. And then of course, we're going
59:02
to take the character themselves and we're going to see
59:05
what they look like. And then from there we're going to take those three
59:08
prompts and we're going to create the story.
59:11
obviously it's very improv. Obviously there's no
59:14
stats, there's no dice rolling here or anything like that. It's
59:17
kind just a short, fun game that we're going to play. But, but
59:20
with that being said, I actually have four
59:22
different, sort of prompt sets that I have already
59:25
put together. And so I think we'll do just
59:28
a 1d4 role to see which one. Do you want to
59:31
go first or do you want me to go first?
59:33
>> Doug Grosser: Sure. As the volunteer,
59:36
teacher of this course, I think that it's only fair that
59:39
I go first. All right, get
59:42
some.
59:42
>> Skylar: Oh, you're going to roll your dice. Perfect. Yep.
59:44
>> Doug Grosser: So I got my dice roll.
59:46
>> Skylar: Go for it.
59:47
>> Doug Grosser: First prompt is going to be a two.
59:49
>> Skylar: Two. All right, sounds good. I got, I rolled a one.
59:52
So I'll take prompt one, but, I'll give you the two. And it's
59:54
all three of the prompts are in here.
59:56
>> Doug Grosser: So perfect. And so I can give you all the numbers, which
59:59
is two, then one then
1:00:01
four.
1:00:02
>> Skylar: All right, perfect. Sounds good. Okay, so for yours,
1:00:05
the setting is a,
1:00:08
I like how they name some of the stuff in here too. A,
1:00:10
remote isolated island in the age of sail,
1:00:13
shrouded in perpetual fog.
1:00:16
>> Doug Grosser: We're going one piece on this?
1:00:18
>> Skylar: Yeeah, yeah, exactly. your predicament is you
1:00:21
are a disgraced navigator, exiled to the
1:00:23
island after a catastrophic navigational error
1:00:26
led to the loss of your ship and crew. It's
1:00:29
interesting how it says exiled as if it kind of alludes to the
1:00:32
idea that you crashed the ship and now you're stuck
1:00:35
here all by yourself. Now you must survive on your own.
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>> Skylar: Haunted by the ghosts of your past.
1:00:40
>> Skylar: And the whispers of the island's ancient malevolent
1:00:43
magic. And then of course your character. Let's get
1:00:46
a little bit into them. We already know they're a disgrace navigator.
1:00:49
Let's find out more. A seasoned sailor named
1:00:52
Finn. Little typical, but that's
1:00:54
okay. Possessing a worn out sextant, a
1:00:57
tattered map of the treacherous seas, and a rusty
1:01:00
cutlass, you also carry a small intricately
1:01:03
carved wooden bird, a gift from your late
1:01:05
captain, which you believe holds a hidden message
1:01:08
or a clue to your redemption.
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>> Doug Grosser: Okay, alright, Interesting.
1:01:13
So for those playing at home,
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the method that I will use right now is the dive
1:01:19
method. Starting from the big world that we now have,
1:01:22
the world shrouded in fog. Now we will
1:01:24
dive into this island.
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This island is an individual island that
1:01:44
not many have enjoyed or been able to
1:01:47
explore. We start out that big island and now we
1:01:49
go down. Alright, what is in this island?
1:01:52
What do we have available to us? it's a desert
1:01:55
island. We don't have much to be able to survive on, but people
1:01:58
are still alive here, although only the
1:02:01
natives and they don't have a lot to go with. So
1:02:04
inside this desert island there is an
1:02:06
oasis. That oasis is where all
1:02:09
the individuals are. This is the only place where any
1:02:12
freshater is able to come through. This is the only place where
1:02:15
vegetation and actual food can be able to
1:02:17
survive. So Finn, the one who has the
1:02:20
sexton to be able to try to find his way. Though disgraced as he
1:02:23
may be, Finn finds his way through the
1:02:26
island, navigating through the stars that
1:02:29
can only be seen every once in a while as the
1:02:31
fogs tries to obscure them. But with
1:02:34
the help of the navigation, he's able to get through and
1:02:37
find these natives. The individuals who are here
1:02:40
on the island that they call
1:02:42
Nexoma Nexima, for whatever
1:02:45
reason, is isolated but still
1:02:48
has this life giving source. We're going to
1:02:51
dive into even farther. How does it
1:02:54
this water? How does it able to have this vegetation
1:02:57
survive. Well, as Finn is starting
1:03:00
to explore, he gets the trust of the
1:03:03
individuals. He is alone after all. He doesn't have much
1:03:05
and they can see the rust on his
1:03:08
saber on the individual parts that he has
1:03:11
and they can tell he needs help.
1:03:14
Well, they haven't experienced this
1:03:17
individual yet, so they have no reason to distrust him. They
1:03:20
go in and they show him down.
1:03:22
Inside this basically oasis
1:03:25
area, there's a crystal, a crystal of
1:03:28
ever flowing pure water.
1:03:31
It's beautiful, just this
1:03:34
glacial blue.
1:03:37
Finn has never seen anything like it. And
1:03:40
he feels a tinge of pain on his heart
1:03:43
knowing that he could not actually be able to bring the rest of
1:03:46
his crew here for the accident that
1:03:48
happened that caused him to crash
1:03:51
their ship outside of this island.
1:03:58
And that's where we start our adventure.
1:04:01
And, and that's the world that we have. We are now in
1:04:04
this isle of Nexoma.
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>> Skylar: Nice. I love it. And that'hey you know
1:04:10
what? We kind of just gave people a free little adventure that they
1:04:13
can run there.
1:04:14
>> Doug Grosser: Exactly.
1:04:15
>> Skylar: Maybe there's a couple more survivors from, the crash of the ship
1:04:18
so that you can have a couple more players involved, but there you go.
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Wow, that was awesome. All right, Doug, I
1:04:24
rolled. I will tell you my prompts. O
1:04:26
so my setting is going to be very
1:04:29
different. we are talking a cyberpunk
1:04:32
megac city, specifically a neon drenched
1:04:35
district known as the Grid. My
1:04:38
predicament, and this is all very like
1:04:40
Cyberpunk 2077. Here you are a data
1:04:43
runner, a courier who smuggles sensitive information
1:04:46
across corporate firewalls. You just
1:04:48
stolen a crucial piece of software that exposes
1:04:51
major corporations'illegal activities. But now I'm
1:04:54
being hunted by their ruthless security forces.
1:04:57
My name or my character, a nimble and
1:05:00
resourceful street urchin named Glitch. Adapt.
1:05:03
At navigating the city's back alleys and hacking
1:05:06
into unsecured networks, you possess a modified data
1:05:09
chip containing the stolen software, a grappling
1:05:12
hook and a small arsenal of improvised
1:05:15
cybernetic enhancements.
1:05:16
>> Doug Grosser: Oh, interesting.
1:05:18
>> Skylar: So first off, I want to dive into the character
1:05:21
Glitch.
1:05:30
It's mentioned that he's a street urchin, which is interesting because
1:05:33
of the fact that he has such a crucial piece of soft
1:05:36
software from a major corporation. How did he get
1:05:38
this? Let's start with zooming in and finding out a little bit more about
1:05:41
Glitch.
1:05:45
He went to school, even though he was
1:05:48
orphaned at a young age. And he
1:05:51
was kind of that bad kid in school.
1:05:52
>> Skylar: Right.
1:05:53
>> Skylar: He wasn't super attentive to
1:05:56
the actual class itself. But there was a hidden
1:05:58
potential within him. He was very smart, most specifically when
1:06:01
it came to hacking and technology.
1:06:04
Hence why he's able to have this small arsenal of improvised
1:06:07
cybernetic enhancements, things that he's tampered with,
1:06:10
things that he's scrounged up amidst the streets of the
1:06:13
Grid, and things that he's enhanced
1:06:16
himself to be able to connect to himself
1:06:19
and be able to better himself. As far as this
1:06:22
kind of stuff goes, he's focused a lot on the hacking
1:06:25
element. He wants to focus on
1:06:27
diving in and getting software. And of course with any street
1:06:30
urchin, it'very Oliver Twist in the sense that amidst
1:06:33
the streets you have of course these questionable individuals
1:06:36
who will hire people, pay people to do these
1:06:39
illegal activities if they see potential in them. And of
1:06:41
course Glitch has gotten in with this shady
1:06:44
crowd. So of course Glitch takes
1:06:47
a job, one that he didnt know the extent of and one
1:06:50
that hes certainly being paid too little for a major
1:06:53
corporation, or at least he didn't realize it was a major
1:06:56
corporation at first. Just a offshore account, you
1:06:59
could say, a separate entity that this company has set
1:07:02
up that he was paid small fee
1:07:05
to hack into and steal secrets from. Not
1:07:08
knowing that this was a major corporation's owned
1:07:11
section. They're sort of a sub network you
1:07:14
could say. And of course stealing this catches the
1:07:17
attention of the individuals. Now normally this isn't a big
1:07:19
deal. If it is actually a small operation, there's not much they can do
1:07:22
about it in this, the Grid. Right. These
1:07:25
companies, they see this kind of stuff all the time. Small
1:07:28
bits of information go here and there. It's just a little bit of data
1:07:31
mining that happens here and there. They're not too worried about it. And that's
1:07:34
too much of an expense to possibly
1:07:36
send a whole am mass of guards to chase after
1:07:39
an individual for taking. But this was a
1:07:42
secret sort of side
1:07:45
network, something they didn't think anybody would even notice, which is
1:07:48
why they put their biggest secrets there. So now
1:07:51
Glitch got ah, hold of something far more valuable than he
1:07:54
was expecting. And unfortunately the individual that was
1:07:56
paying him for it is notnna take that fall for
1:07:59
him. So Glitch is tasked with
1:08:02
finding some way to get out of the trouble that he's landed himself
1:08:05
in in the Grid.
1:08:14
>> Doug Grosser: that is so good. And for those playing at home, you just saw, while
1:08:17
we were calling it dive, this was specifically the spread
1:08:20
method.
1:08:20
>> Skylar: That's True. Yes.
1:08:21
>> Doug Grosser: As you start with the individual and you're going through his
1:08:24
backstory, spreading outes. Absolutely. M and as you
1:08:27
can tell, so many individual connections to it. You started
1:08:30
with talking about his past and how he got hacking, and then you also
1:08:33
got into why he's in this situation. Multiple threads
1:08:36
that come from one place.
1:08:38
>> Skylar: So much potential. So whether you're playing a pirate
1:08:41
adventure like Doug's pitch, or you're playing something a
1:08:43
bit into the future like my pitch, we hope
1:08:46
that the world building that we have taught you, or
1:08:49
specifically Doug has taught you all about today, will help
1:08:52
you in building that world and that exciting
1:08:55
adventure that your players are about to go on.
1:08:57
Doug, thank you again for being on the show. Thank you for
1:09:00
sharing this invaluable information to all of us who
1:09:03
are just desperately trying to build really cool
1:09:06
stuff out there in TTRPG land. And
1:09:09
we just need a little bit of direction and a little bit of guidance to
1:09:11
help get us to where we need to be in order to run the
1:09:14
campaigns that we want to run.
1:09:16
>> Doug Grosser: Oh, absolutely. And thank you so much for having me. I
1:09:18
honestly believe that a lot of people out there have, a ton of great
1:09:21
ideas. Sometimes you just need to focus
1:09:24
in and having some of these tips and tools, you can
1:09:27
help create a memorable and glorious
1:09:29
world.
1:09:30
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1:09:33
something. We'see you guys next time on another class
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1:09:39
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