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The Man Behind the Mic | Episode 265 · V

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  Speaker 1: shows each day has, well, it's got its blessings, but
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  Speaker 1: a way to not only produce an hour of great
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  Speaker 1: podcast content, but then to produce three great hours of
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  Speaker 1: radio content. And the only way that I can even
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  Speaker 1: manage to do this each day is because I've got
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  Speaker 1: this guy called Producer Jim who is working so hard
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  Speaker 1: to make it all possible. And I'm so grateful to him.
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  Speaker 1: And I figured, you know what we should do? We
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  Speaker 1: should just let him speak to you here joining us
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  Speaker 1: now on the program. I'm very proud to say, I'm
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  Speaker 1: very happy to have with us the great producer, Jim Verde,
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  Speaker 1: the producer of the Vince show and the producer of
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  Speaker 1: Dan Bongino's radio show. When he was doing that with
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  Speaker 1: so much success over the years, uh, Jim, thanks for
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  Speaker 1: doing this today, man.
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  Speaker 2: I am happy to do this with you. Always glad
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  Speaker 2: to be on with you. Nobody knows, um, When we
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  Speaker 2: do the radio show, so this is the view that
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  Speaker 2: you get to see every day, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, this is. If you're watching on Rumble right now,
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  Speaker 1: this is precisely the view I get, except Jim is
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  Speaker 1: less courteous. He doesn't look into the camera. He's looking
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  Speaker 1: away from the camera. So you're getting an even better
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  Speaker 1: view of Jim than I normally get.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Jim, you're off to the side.
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  Speaker 1: So, Jim, just to give people a perspective, they might
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  Speaker 1: not know this. We bring this up from time to
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  Speaker 1: time about our locations. The reason I do have to
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  Speaker 1: stare at you through a camera is we're not in
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  Speaker 1: the same place. I think people think of a radio
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  Speaker 1: show that two people are going to be the producer
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  Speaker 1: and everybody else, we're all together. We're all separated, actually.
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  Speaker 1: And thanks to the power of the internet and just
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  Speaker 1: the ability to transmit all this very quickly, I'm based
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  Speaker 1: out of Northern Virginia, the Washington, D.C.
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  Speaker 2: Area.
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  Speaker 1: You're in the Dallas, Texas area. And how long have
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  Speaker 1: you been there?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, two years. I have been in Texas for, let's see,
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  Speaker 2: since 1981. I don't want to do the math in
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  Speaker 2: my head. It's too early for math. But I've been
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  Speaker 2: here since 1981. I've worked in radio here for my
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  Speaker 2: entire career, be it locally or on the national level.
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  Speaker 2: I've gotten to stay here. And I wouldn't trade it
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  Speaker 2: for anything. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: So you were working in local radio in Texas for
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of your career, at least?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. I moved here from Brooklyn, New York, and my
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  Speaker 2: first real job was at a country station in Dallas, Texas.
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  Speaker 2: Think about how that went over. You want to talk
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  Speaker 2: about training yourself to talk differently? I really had to
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  Speaker 2: do that.
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  Speaker 1: Did you get a lot of crap for your accent?
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  Speaker 1: Was that a problem for you?
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  Speaker 2: Surprisingly, no. I mean, locally, in the neighborhood, yes. This
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  Speaker 2: was back in the days when if you came from
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  Speaker 2: New York, They had bumper stickers on cars that said,
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  Speaker 2: love New York, take I-30 East. So, I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: weren't really welcomed here if you were from New York.
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  Speaker 2: So that was a bit of a challenge. But actually
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  Speaker 2: on the radio, great response. I think if you do
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  Speaker 2: what you do and people like what you do, then
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  Speaker 2: they're going to respond positively to it. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that's what happened.
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  Speaker 1: So were you into country music when you were doing that?
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  Speaker 2: Not at all. And when I took the job, I said, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I need a job. So I'm just going to do
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  Speaker 2: this temporarily until I find something else. Wound up being
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  Speaker 2: the best job I ever had in my life. It
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  Speaker 2: was absolutely fantastic. The experience was wonderful. And then I
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  Speaker 2: grew to love the music. And not only what we
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  Speaker 2: were playing, which was basically the hits at the time
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  Speaker 2: in the 90s, I grew to love country music, like
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  Speaker 2: all forms of it. Sure. Going throughout history, the old stuff,
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  Speaker 2: the new stuff. I really I really liked it a
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  Speaker 2: lot and was glad that I could experience that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the people who say they don't
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  Speaker 1: like country music is just because they're not familiar with it.
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  Speaker 1: I think like they kind of hear it and they're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's different than what I'm used to. So they kind
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  Speaker 1: of reject it out of hand. But you spend a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of time with it and then you really
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  Speaker 1: start to vibe with it. It's pretty good. And it's
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  Speaker 1: a great genre of music.
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  Speaker 2: People have a misconception about it that it's this hick stuff,
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  Speaker 2: that it's not really well thought out, that it's easy
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  Speaker 2: to do. And it's not. These people actually are telling
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  Speaker 2: stories and telling life experiences. And that's why it connects
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  Speaker 2: with so many people in this country is because it
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  Speaker 2: tells their story. And it's something that they can always
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  Speaker 2: carry with them regardless. And use those songs. Those songs
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  Speaker 2: will always be put them in a place in their
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  Speaker 2: lives that they'll remember forever.
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  Speaker 1: So how do you get to from, how do you
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  Speaker 1: go from country radio to national talk? When do you
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  Speaker 1: start getting, when do you start getting connected to national
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  Speaker 1: radio and start doing this as a job?
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  Speaker 2: So strange. I never entertained talk radio at all. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think we could do it, but right after
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  Speaker 2: the country station, the country station, uh, flip formats. And
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  Speaker 2: they went to this guy talk thing, like a Howard
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  Speaker 2: Stern type deal. Yeah. The only show the country station
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  Speaker 2: kept was our show. Cause we, we were number one
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  Speaker 2: in our time slot in the afternoon in afternoon drive.
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  Speaker 2: Got it. So they kept us and me and the
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  Speaker 2: partner I was, uh, working with at the time, a
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  Speaker 2: guy named AW Pantoja, one of the funniest people, one
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  Speaker 2: of the most talented creative people I've ever worked with. Um,
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  Speaker 2: They wanted us to do talk. Neither one of us
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  Speaker 2: had ever done talk before. So we were flailing. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: just trying to make it up on the fly. I
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  Speaker 2: had no idea how to do it, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: just think this is really, this is how long ago
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  Speaker 2: this was. This is pre-internet. So show prep was like
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  Speaker 2: you had these services and then you had news and
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  Speaker 2: you're going through newspapers. Yes. You know, you're trying to
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  Speaker 2: really put a show together. You couldn't... You know, there
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  Speaker 2: was no AI. There was no Grok you could consult with. Hey, Grok,
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  Speaker 2: tell me this. I need this answer. Yes. And then,
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  Speaker 2: you know, do that. There was nothing. You really had
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  Speaker 2: to create it. So it was hard. So we only
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  Speaker 2: lasted in that show for a year when we were
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  Speaker 2: finally starting to hit our groove, mainly because the station
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  Speaker 2: was able to get... Howard Stern and replaced us with
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  Speaker 2: Howard Stern. So that was what it was. So I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that is it. In radio, you get fired
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  Speaker 2: a lot. I mean, I lost my job three, four times,
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  Speaker 2: something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And then I was at Radio Disney for a while.
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  Speaker 2: I worked at Radio Disney for 10 years.
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  Speaker 1: As one of the characters?
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  Speaker 2: No, I was not one of the characters. But I
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  Speaker 2: did create my own characters. I was writing commercials and
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  Speaker 2: imaging and promos and things like that. Yeah. So I
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  Speaker 2: was able to create and voice some of my own characters,
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  Speaker 2: which was funny. Fun to do. Excuse me. I forgot
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  Speaker 2: to tell you, and I don't even know if I've
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  Speaker 2: discussed this with you, but before that little venture, I
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  Speaker 2: was working at ESPN Radio. So once we lost the job,
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  Speaker 2: I was at ESPN radio. Sure. I was working locally.
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  Speaker 2: And then the management from the country station decided that
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  Speaker 2: they were going to be putting together a woman's talk
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  Speaker 2: radio network. Have I ever told you this story?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: So they put together this woman's talk radio network. They
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  Speaker 2: make me the assistant program director.
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  Speaker 1: Of course. Cause when I think women's programming, I think
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  Speaker 1: Jim Verde, he'd be perfect for this.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. Well, it's funny you say that because the
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  Speaker 2: target audience, the main target audience for the country station
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  Speaker 2: was like a 35 year old woman. So that was our,
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  Speaker 2: that was our focus when we were doing the country station,
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  Speaker 2: we're able to get men as well because wherever the
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  Speaker 2: women are, the men will follow, you know, true. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm working at this, uh, We're getting this whole woman's
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  Speaker 2: talk radio network set up. Finally go on the air.
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  Speaker 2: We get great news coverage, great press coverage. TV stations
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  Speaker 2: come out. Everything's positive. We get to Friday. We're only
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  Speaker 2: on the air three days. It's payday. And the manager
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  Speaker 2: comes in, tells us we don't have any money in
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  Speaker 2: the account to pay you guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So we were dead, dead in the water right then.
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  Speaker 2: And I just quit my job at ESPN. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: thankfully to the old boss, uh, at ESPN, I called him.
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  Speaker 2: I said, have you filled my position? He's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I did. But he brought me back on, gave me
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  Speaker 2: as many hours I could. I, um, forever indebted to
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  Speaker 2: him for that.
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  Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, no, you have told me this story.
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  Speaker 1: I remember this part. I was like, man, what a leap.
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  Speaker 1: And they're not even paying you.
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  Speaker 2: It's insane.
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  Speaker 1: And so, thankfully, that great guy brings you back at ESPN.
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  Speaker 1: But at some point, you end up doing the national
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  Speaker 1: radio stuff. So how does that happen?
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  Speaker 2: So I worked at Radio Disney for 10 years. They
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  Speaker 2: decided to move the operation to Burbank. So I was, again,
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  Speaker 2: on the beach looking for something. And I'm in the hall.
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  Speaker 2: And as I'm in the hall, Somebody that I worked
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  Speaker 2: with said, hey, I know it's closing down and everything,
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  Speaker 2: but I need somebody to do vacation fill-in for this
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  Speaker 2: national talk show. Somebody I refer to as he who
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  Speaker 2: shall not be named. I will not name.
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to name him?
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  Speaker 2: You can put it together yourself. It's in my book.
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  Speaker 2: You can put it together.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, come on, Jim. You can tell people. Can I
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  Speaker 1: say the name?
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  Speaker 2: He's going to sigh.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't want me to say the name, but this
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  Speaker 1: was for, this was fill in work as a producer, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Not, not as a, as a guest host, but rather
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  Speaker 1: as his producer. So he'd do fill in work for
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  Speaker 1: one Michael Savage.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Okay. And I get in three weeks, I think
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  Speaker 2: I'm on the job and the executive producer gets fired.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm there every day. And then they asked me
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  Speaker 2: if I want the job and I'm like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what, what are you going to pay? And they
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  Speaker 2: tell me what they want to pay. And I literally
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  Speaker 2: laughed at the guy.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a bag of Pop-Tarts or something.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. And I'm like, what would you, what would
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  Speaker 2: you like? And I said, you, you'd have to double that.
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  Speaker 2: And they did.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh my, what did I leave on the table?
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  Speaker 1: I know that. Yeah, that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, um, it was the most challenging seven years
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  Speaker 2: of my life. Yeah. Put it that way. But if
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  Speaker 2: not for that, I mean, there were several times where
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  Speaker 2: I called my wife. I'm like, I'm done. Can't do
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  Speaker 2: it anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I can't. And she's like, no, we have a mortgage.
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  Speaker 2: We have kids. You know, you really kind of need
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  Speaker 2: the income. Sure.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 2: I stuck it out.
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  Speaker 1: Those kinds of working conditions, though, do you feel like
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  Speaker 1: you derive something from it, though? Because, you know, I,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I have not, I work with Dan in
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  Speaker 1: kind of a, how would I say this, like a
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  Speaker 1: distant way. Like, Dan and I work together insofar as
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  Speaker 1: we've got this Silverlock operation together, and I'm doing my
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  Speaker 1: own show separate from him. But, you know, for the
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  Speaker 1: most part, we just have a cordial relationship. We don't
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  Speaker 1: have a, like a quote-unquote working relationship where, so I
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  Speaker 1: don't really know what it's like to work with him directly.
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  Speaker 1: But my impression is that he's kind of a joy
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  Speaker 1: to work with. And that, and so you go from
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  Speaker 1: working in an environment where you're just being battered and miserable,
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  Speaker 1: but it forms you into who you are today. And
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  Speaker 1: then you're like working in these environments with Dan and then,
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  Speaker 1: and then with me, hopefully is a good environment where
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  Speaker 1: it's just a different experience, but you bring all of
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  Speaker 1: these skills that you've developed in a much more trying environment.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. And I will say that it did make me
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  Speaker 2: a much, much better producer. because we were constantly having
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: to come up with content for this show. Most of
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: the time it wasn't used even, but we still had
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: to produce something. And it helped me do it quickly.
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  Speaker 2: It helped me find all kinds of different ways to
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  Speaker 2: come up with this content. It helped me to become
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  Speaker 2: a better writer because sometimes I would have to write monologues.
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  Speaker 2: So it made me a lot better.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: So when it thickened your skin too, I bet.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I like to think that I had a
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: thick skin to begin with, but this was like beyond
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: anything I'd ever dealt with in my life before. And you,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: you would have had to have had an incredibly thick
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: skin to do that job. Um, but because of that,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: what that's why Westwood called and offered me the job
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: to work with Dan and working with Dan, we clicked
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: right off the initial zoom call. Um, when, when we
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: had it, when we were introduced to each other and
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: it was great, but, and the fun, another funny story
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: is I really thought I was in trouble because I
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: knew he was a Yankees fan. And our mutual friend,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Teresa told me, well, the first time she was talking
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: to Dan about, or yeah, she was talking to Dan
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: about me. We could hear the lovely, she could hear
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: the lovely miss Paula in the background, who's apparently going
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: down my social media. And she goes, he's a Mets fan.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be in real, real trouble right now.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, she didn't say Red Sox. She said Mets.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: It's manageable. You can figure it out.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Right. So we hit it off. And honestly, that four
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: years was just an incredible ride. I like to describe
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: it as being on the back of a bull, which
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: I actually have not a bull, but I've been on
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: the back of a steer before. Yeah. And it's a
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: hell of a ride. And it was a hell of
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: a ride. It was always something. And one of my
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: favorite things to do with Dan is because he had
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: everything lined up as to exactly where he wanted to go.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Same with the podcast. He's got it all written down
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: in his notebooks. You can see it. And he knows
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: where he's going to go when he plans the whole show.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: And he does a rundown. One of my favorite things
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: to do was... seconds before we were going on the radio,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I would just say something and boom, it takes it
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: off into a completely different direction. Totally derails what he
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: wanted to do. And I think it made for some
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: really entertaining stuff because it's not just about the politics
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: and everything. I mean, you know, this, we, we have
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: to entertain people. We have to keep people's interests. So
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: while you're delivering news, You also want to give them
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: a reason, a compelling reason to go to you for
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: that news, you know, besides just the news.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I get it. I mean, I definitely I definitely
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: get it. And like I think about I know why
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Dan would find that so valuable. Like I think a
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: lot of professions, people might hear you describing this and
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: go throw that would throw me off my game. Somebody
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: just interjected something before I was getting to what I
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: was planning on doing. And I guarantee you, without even
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: talking to Dan about this, that he loved it. And
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: the reason for that is because he's doing a podcast
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: each day. He's doing an hour of content. And then
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: he would go right into the radio show because he
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: was doing it 11 to noon, then noon to three.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: He's right into his radio show. And a lot of
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the radio show was figuring out new ways to tell.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: stories that he had already kind of recited on the podcast,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: but new ways to freshen it up for the radio audience.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: And for you to inject a new handhold, like almost
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: like he's a mountain climber, that he can grab onto
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: something new and start talking about that. That's a huge advantage.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: This is why I don't think people really, they should appreciate,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: maybe they do. The value of having good production is
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: not merely somebody who can make sure that the audio
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: clips are there for you or something like that, or
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: make sure you get out of the breaks at the
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: right time. It's somebody, which is why you have this
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: great skill set, Jim, somebody who can help be kind
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: of an extra lifeline for you just like be thinking
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: in the ways that you think and injecting concepts at
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the exact moments that you need them in order to
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: improve the quality of the show.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: And it's not only that you know he encouraged drops
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: he really enjoyed doing having drops and you know if
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: you just find right at just the right uh, time
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: to put something in there. Like, you know, we do, we, uh,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: we've got Leslie stall with her. No, uh, we've got, uh,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: and grandma said it with Dan. It was like, I think, uh,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Dan's favorite. Where is it? I got this up in
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: front of me right here. Um, Come on, where is it?
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I know one that he loved. He loved that lady
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: who kept yelling at the back of the plane, that
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: MF-er is not real. That MF-er back there is not real. Yes.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: That one I knew.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: He goes, and there she is. Oh, my gosh. There
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: she is.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know she was here.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: And the way he played it up, you know, too,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: it was great. It was great. And the other thing
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: that I really liked that he drew a lot out
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: of me, too. Yeah. as well. I mean, as you
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: do as well, because when I hear something and I
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: want to do something with it, and sometimes he'll like
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: ask for it, but I remember being in the studio
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: one time and he's, um, he and the, uh, Guy and, um,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I think it was just Guy at the time. Um, yeah,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I think it was just Guy. And they were talking about,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: remember when Jen Psaki had, and the media was going
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: on as, oh man, that was a Psaki bomb. That
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: was a Psaki bomb. And it was just really stupid.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: It was stupid name for that. And I'm thinking, and
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I'm like, it should be a sake bong
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: because you have to be high to hear, to believe
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: whatever she says. Yeah. And he's like, that's funny. So
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: the next day I had come in and I had
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: produced a bit, the sake bong and he loved it.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: He's like, he didn't even know I could do that.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: And then it just developed into a bunch of stuff.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: And since he encouraged it, I just, did it more.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: And I've enjoyed doing it. I love it.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: No, it's good. It's a, it's an older tradition in
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: radio that I think, uh, died an unnecessary death. I,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: and I'm glad to see you reviving it because I think,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I think parody work has its value. I've talked to
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: radio people before who poo poo it. They're like, Oh,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: that's that nobody does that anymore. That's like an old thing. No,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: it's that you don't want to spend the money on it.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: That's actually what the, what the, what the complaint is.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: You don't want to spend cash on people who know
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: what they're doing and been producing, uh, great content like that.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: And it's great. And people like it. And it has
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: its uses. And man, you're good at it. And I'm
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: glad Dan tapped into that.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: It does have its uses. And it goes back to
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: the Alinsky rule where, you know, mockery, what was it,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: rule number five? Mockery really discredits the people that you're mocking.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: It's a potent weapon.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes. It's a lethal weapon. You know, it really
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: can do a lot of damage to people.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I want to... I want to continue this here in
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: a moment. I want to do more of this because
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I want to I want you know, this this episode
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: really is turned into and I'm perfectly happy with this.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I knew as soon as we bring Jim in, I
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: was like, we'll just get to talking the way we
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: always do. I wanted to turn this into something where
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: people could get to know you a little bit better,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: because as you as an engine for content for both
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: what Dan and I are producing through the years. And
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: in a moment, I want to talk to Jim a
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: little bit more about how we got connected, how this
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: all started. and how we now produce the Big National
• 23:20
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• 23:21
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• 23:21
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  Speaker 1: being great. So it was, let's see, how many years
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: ago was it? It was about two years ago, I
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: would guess, that the Dan Bongino show was in full swing. Remember,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I just want to remind people about how the Dan
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: show gets started in the first place. Rush Limbaugh passes away.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: There is pandemonium nationwide among the radio stations about what
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: to do. For many months, there were just re-airings of
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Rush as the big radio companies were just trying to
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: figure out, what do we do with this time slot?
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: How do we handle the post-Rush world? And then we
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: saw some split in the market, essentially. Fundamentally, there were
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: two gigantic cleaves. One goes in the direction of Clay
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton. The other half of the market
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: goes in the direction of Dan Bongino. as Cumulus, Westwood
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: One decides, okay, Dan is going to take these hundreds
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: of radio stations across the country. And that's really, those
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: are the big dogs on the block for that time
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: slot nationwide. And then of course, Dan's doing the show.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: He's doing a great job. And at some point he decides,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember how this all started, Jim, but
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: he decided that he wanted me to come in to
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: be a guest host for him when he was on vacation.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: And I think... I think I'm trying to think what
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: this was. I think I was tweeting things at him
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: because I was listening to a show and I'd be
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: like tweeting random commentary and just reacting to something that
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: he had said. And he just got to talking on
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the air as he, as he's want to do. And
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: he's like, Jim, Jim, put Vince's name down on the list.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: We got to have him as a guest host. And
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's how it all started.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Pretty much. That's how it all started because he would
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: just say who he wanted and I'd reach out. And
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: of course, you know, people were thrilled to be able
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: to be on in that time slot. So yes, I
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: was able to do that with you. You, graciously agreed.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: And you were really amazing because people don't realize this.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: You would do the three hours noon to three and
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: then do three more hours right after that doing a
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: six hour day. And you'd have to do all that content.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't know how he does it.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know how you can do that
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: for six hours. It was, it was crazy, but you
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: did it. You pulled it off. I'm sure whatever was
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: on the WMAL side, Was fantastic. I didn't get to
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: hear that part, but you were great with us. And
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: that's how we first got to know each other. Yeah.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: And I gelled with you guys pretty quickly. I one
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: of the so there were two big, nice elements. And
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: one of the reasons why this has been so successful,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I think, for us now. is one, I immediately connected
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: with Dan's audience. So I think it's just because Dan
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: and I consume a lot of the same things and
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: we're of like mind on a lot of the big
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: topics in the news. And so the connection was pretty quick.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: And I know Dan personally got a lot of very
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: good feedback on the time that I spent on his program.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: The other piece just on a personal level, I gelled
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: immediately with you and Mike. Mike, who works with you
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: there in Texas, I just felt really good working with
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: you guys. I was like, man, these guys are legit.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: It was funny, too, because I'm like, I'm thinking, man,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: this is what it's like to work with a national
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: production team. These guys have their stuff together. And it
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: turns out it's just, I think it's unique to you.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I think it's unique to you and Mike. You're just
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: that good. But it was cool. It felt like it
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: fit like a glove right away.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Well, my seven years of beating, like I described earlier,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: it made me what I am now and made me
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: want to do a good job. Not only that, you know,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I have a responsibility to the audience to be able
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: to give them the content that they want. So it
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: was important for me to get you information and get
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: you content that I knew would click with our audience.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: But I mean, honestly, you did everything. It's like, you're,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: you're just way ahead of me on a lot of stuff.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: And I feel bad about that sometimes. I don't know
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: when you sleep actually, or if you sleep.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: There's a, well, one, it's something I discovered the big shift.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: So people don't realize about the radio industry, the, the
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: smaller the market is, the less likely it is that
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: you have help to do the show. So if you're
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: in a, if you're in a smaller market, you have
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: to do everything, literally everything for your own show. You
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: have to host the show. You have to operate the board.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: You have to answer the phones on the breaks. You
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: have to queue up the callers. Then you have to
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: cut all of your own audio. There's really, there's just
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: nobody to help you. It's just, they, they, they're not
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: spending the money on it and you're on your own.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: And if you screw that up, you're out, they'll replace
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you with somebody else that they'll give a crappy paycheck to.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: But yeah, The nice thing about working with you is
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: now I've got help. We've got a team. We've got
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: some people doing this. It's not a huge team. It's
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: a small team. It's really fundamentally the three of us
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: who are doing this. We've got a lot of support
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: from Westwood and other elements. But the actual act of
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: the radio show is me, you, and Mike. That's it.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: It's just the three of us. And I think the
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: thing that surprised everybody, including the executives at Westwood, was
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: that I play my own audio.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I play my own audio, which is not apparently in
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: any way typical. And I didn't know that. I just
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: was coming into this like, I'm going to play my
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: own audio. But mostly because I like controlling it and
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I like interrupting it. I love interrupting it. I love
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: we've got it's fun, which is, by the way, a
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: source of great controversy among some listeners. They're like, some
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: people do not like that I interrupted, but that's OK.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: If you don't like it, just go to Twitter and
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: watch the clips. I'm here to tell you about these clips.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: And but it's a it's a it's a huge it's
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: it's it's so fun to do. But I know that Jim,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: when you and I started working together, that was different.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: That was different because you were so accustomed to playing
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: so much of this.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Right. And I like the way you do it personally.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I think it lends something because anytime you can interject
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: in the middle of a clip, if something is just said,
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  Speaker 2: and you know that there's more on the other side,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: but you can give an analysis right at that time.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's much better and much more important and
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: it serves the audience better. That's, my humble opinion on it,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: but I think it, I think it works and I
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  Speaker 2: think it works well.
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  Speaker 1: We've gotten good feedback on it through the years. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: the reason I do it is because of the audience feedback.
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  Speaker 1: Most of it's been positive. People like it because they
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  Speaker 1: don't like AOC speaking like without interruption. They want somebody
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: to jump in and be like, that was the most
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  Speaker 1: idiotic part of this clip. And here's why. So we,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: that's why we do it. We call it the, the
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Vincent replay to be very self-indulgent now. But it's, it's,
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  Speaker 1: but it's good. So, Jim, let's end today with just,
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  Speaker 1: I want to get some political analysis from you. One,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: first and foremost, we've got the March Sadness Tournament going on.
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  Speaker 1: You are conducting the third annual March Sadness Tournament right
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  Speaker 1: now to establish who is the single dumbest member of Congress.
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  Speaker 1: As we speak right now, if you are consuming this
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  Speaker 1: on Rumble, rumble.com slash Vince, if you're consuming it live
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  Speaker 1: at the eight o'clock Eastern hour, this vote for the
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  Speaker 1: final four, what are you calling the final four?
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  Speaker 2: The feckless four.
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  Speaker 1: The feckless four.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: If I understand this correctly, that vote is about to close.
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  Speaker 1: So people are running out of time. They have to,
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  Speaker 1: if they want to get it in, they should get
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: it in right now as they're listening to us.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you can get, you can get it at, on my, uh,
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  Speaker 2: X page. It's at JJ Verde at JJ V E
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  Speaker 2: R D I the, I've got a pin to the top.
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  Speaker 2: And then if you go in the replies, there's, Only
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  Speaker 2: two voting categories left. We've got AOC taking on Sri Tandahar.
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  Speaker 2: And Sri, you know, he's a Cinderella story. He just
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: got there. He came in as a two seed, and
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  Speaker 2: he's been banging it out one after another. And then,
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  Speaker 2: of course, the other bracket is Maisie Hirono versus Jasmine Crockett. Wow. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Those are your feckless four. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: What a lightweight bout is playing out right now. Not
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: to be confused with a heavyweight bout. As all these
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: idiots are fighting against each other to become the dumbest
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  Speaker 1: member of Congress. I have made my bracket public already.
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  Speaker 1: I think Sri Tanidar does go all the way. I
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: think he wins in the championship. But the only thing
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: working against me is perhaps his name ID. He's not
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  Speaker 1: as well known, but man, that guy is a dummy.
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  Speaker 2: I can tell you that according to the previous two years,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: this is the biggest threat that AOC has ever had.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing. That is absolutely amazing. So you said, just
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: to remind me, it's AOC versus Sheree right now?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right. And then Crazy Maisie and Jasmine Crockett.
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  Speaker 2: What a battle. This is Jasmine Swanson. She was last
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: year's champion.
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  Speaker 1: Who do you think is going to be the champion
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  Speaker 1: this year based on the feedback so far?
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  Speaker 2: Man, I don't know. I mean, it could, there were
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: so much, so much dumbness this year, especially by the
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: four of those that it could, it could go any way.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I really don't know. You know, people definitely have opinions
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: for sure. I know a brick suit. If you follow
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: him on X, he was really all in for Hank
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Johnson until Hank got narrowly defeated by Rashida to leave,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: which was sad, but you know, You can only live
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: on Guam tipping over for so long.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah. He's been dining out on that for years.
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  Speaker 1: It's not going to work for him this time in
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: the third annual March Sadness tournament. What's the plan? Are
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: you going to keep this going forever?
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  Speaker 2: As much as I can. Sure. Yeah. Yes. If we're
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  Speaker 2: here and we're doing this, you're going to get it
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  Speaker 2: every year for sure. Actually, even if we're not here,
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  Speaker 2: I think we still need to do it anyway. Yes. Yes.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: And in case anybody's wondering, if you haven't been following
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: this tournament, Republicans are definitely a part of it. Jim
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: includes a bunch of Republicans on the list. They just
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: happened to be defeated. Not quite as dumb as the
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  Speaker 1: four Democrats you just laid out this year. Again, all
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: by popular vote. That's what we do here. We just
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: respect the people and they do. They vote on it.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: All right, Jim, we've got to get ready for another
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: big national radio show. Thank you very much, man. It's
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: always so good to chat with you in every capacity,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: but I'm glad we could do this together in public today.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love every single minute of it.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: This is the joy of my life. And I appreciate
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: you very much for, uh, for wanting me to do
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: this with you. Thank you.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Producer Jim. Everybody loves Producer Jim. We figured we'd
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: have him stop by. Thank you, as always, everybody, for
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: being with me. I hope you have a fantastic American weekend.
• 36:07
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