Latest / Brian Thomas / The "Smither-vent" - Episode 128 - Another shooting. Another Weak Response
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- 0:00Speaker 1: If I have Karosite talks today it's Monday. It's that
- 0:02Speaker 1: time we get to hear from the former Vice mayor
- 0:04Speaker 1: of the City of Cincinnati, Christopher smith Man. We'll call
- 0:06Speaker 1: this smither vad Christopher. Welcome back, my friends. Great hearing
- 0:10Speaker 1: from you today as always, and of course good hearing
- 0:12Speaker 1: from you over the weekend about the shooting that happened
- 0:14Speaker 1: at Riverfront Live.
- 0:17Speaker 2: I have to tell you, Brian, my first my heart
- 0:21Speaker 2: goes out to the victim. Yes, you know, like yours
- 0:24Speaker 2: and your listening audience, and it's so unfortunate that you know,
- 0:30Speaker 2: you and I are going to have this conversation over
- 0:32Speaker 2: and over again, you know, throughout the summer. That's my prediction,
- 0:39Speaker 2: and for a lot of different reasons. But the problem
- 0:43Speaker 2: with this for me is there are things that we
- 0:46Speaker 2: can do. And so for example, you know, I'm glad
- 0:50Speaker 2: the mayor held a press conference. We had a mass
- 0:52Speaker 2: shooting in Cincinnati. Nine people were shot Signal ninety nine.
- 0:59Speaker 2: Actually I got my information originally from Signal ninety nine.
- 1:05Speaker 2: In the chaos, they thought thirteen people were shot, and
- 1:07Speaker 2: now it went to nine and now and one person
- 1:09Speaker 2: is still in critical condition. That is incredibly serious. And
- 1:13Speaker 2: I also want to say before I get into this
- 1:15Speaker 2: direct rant about our leadership locally, is that my hats
- 1:20Speaker 2: go off to the UC medical teams, our medical teams
- 1:24Speaker 2: across our region, because if they're not doing what they're doing,
- 1:29Speaker 2: more people would die, meaning people are being shot. But
- 1:33Speaker 2: we have some of the best medical operations in our
- 1:38Speaker 2: emergency rooms in this region, and every single weekend they
- 1:44Speaker 2: are saving lives. It's like an all out war on
- 1:47Speaker 2: our streets and they're in there putting people back together.
- 1:52Speaker 2: So my hats go off to every one of those
- 1:55Speaker 2: emergency rooms that took the nine people that were shot,
- 1:58Speaker 2: because more we did, or more would be in a
- 2:02Speaker 2: worse situation if we didn't have them in place. That's
- 2:04Speaker 2: important to say.
- 2:05Speaker 1: It is, Christopher, and I'm glad you brought that up
- 2:07Speaker 1: because I have a dear friend, retired Colonel Bob Kattyre,
- 2:10Speaker 1: who does wound immediate emergency care wound training for folks.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Maybe you're involved in an active shooter situation. He does
- 2:17Speaker 1: training to deal with the active shooter. But the critical
- 2:19Speaker 1: thing is in need is someone right there ready to
- 2:23Speaker 1: take care of the wounds, because you end up with
- 2:25Speaker 1: more casualties because people there aren't tending to the people
- 2:28Speaker 1: who are bleeding. So we could do society a grade
- 2:30Speaker 1: service if we all collectively learn how to deal with
- 2:33Speaker 1: emergency wound care. And there are ways to learn and
- 2:35Speaker 1: do that, so we can be part of the solution
- 2:37Speaker 1: to an otherwise I mean, should never happen problem, Christopher.
- 2:41Speaker 1: I still every time this kind of thing happens, people
- 2:44Speaker 1: randomly shooting into innocent people that they have no connection with,
- 2:47Speaker 1: I am totally baffled. I don't get it. I really
- 2:50Speaker 1: don't pauseibly in Christopher back. I know he's got a
- 2:52Speaker 1: whole lot more to talk about this, but I want
- 2:54Speaker 1: to mention foreign exchange. I had another, as always terrific
- 2:57Speaker 1: foreign exchange experience talk Station seven nine on a Monday,
- 3:03Speaker 1: right time US from Christopher Smitheman doing the smither vent.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Back over to you, Christopher Smitheman, we.
- 3:11Speaker 2: Are we are in a situation where we need a
- 3:14Speaker 2: strong mayor that comes up to that podium and not
- 3:19Speaker 2: not just apologize this for the mass shooting, but tells
- 3:23Speaker 2: the community what is his plan. That's what's missing. You know,
- 3:28Speaker 2: I can go to my pastor, I can go to
- 3:30Speaker 2: my priest. You know, I'm Catholic and I can go
- 3:33Speaker 2: get a homily, go there and pray. What we need
- 3:38Speaker 2: from our local leaders is a plan. That's what's missing.
- 3:42Speaker 2: And for the city manager to blame guns unacceptable. I
- 3:48Speaker 2: get the idea that it's easy to say, Wow, man,
- 3:51Speaker 2: we've got all these guns out here, blah blah blah.
- 3:54Speaker 2: But they're legal gun owners like myself. Who you know,
- 3:58Speaker 2: I've gone through the training, I have a license to carry.
- 4:03Speaker 2: You know, there are a lot of other Americans in
- 4:05Speaker 2: the state of Ohio who have that. Like, who is
- 4:08Speaker 2: she talking about? Right? So obviously we the people who
- 4:12Speaker 2: have a legal gun. And and and obviously the person
- 4:16Speaker 2: here shooting randomly into a crowd of people and shooting
- 4:20Speaker 2: nine people, that's unacceptable. But speak to that, not talking
- 4:24Speaker 2: about it's the gun. It's the person who has the
- 4:27Speaker 2: gun and their finger on the trigger. People and ChRI
- 4:30Speaker 2: that is the problem.
- 4:32Speaker 1: What typically turns out to be the case. And it's
- 4:34Speaker 1: too early because I don't think they found the person
- 4:36Speaker 1: or persons responsible for this ridiculous behavior in these in
- 4:39Speaker 1: these four people getting shot nine times out of ten,
- 4:42Speaker 1: it turns out they have a they have acquired a
- 4:45Speaker 1: firearm unlawfully. The gun itself shouldn't be held by them
- 4:49Speaker 1: because they're under disability from prior convictions or whatever, or
- 4:52Speaker 1: they're under age, and yet they've acquired a firearm. They're
- 4:54Speaker 1: not looking to the reality that they have not only
- 4:56Speaker 1: engaged in murderous activity, but all so have violated the
- 5:00Speaker 1: law on dooing. So so what are we going to do?
- 5:02Speaker 1: Their response, basically, if they got their way, is to
- 5:05Speaker 1: try to eliminate all the guns, which you'll never happen,
- 5:09Speaker 1: never correct never.
- 5:11Speaker 2: And so there speaking into the wind when they hold
- 5:14Speaker 2: press conferences and they say things like that I was
- 5:18Speaker 2: the former vice mayor somebody who might not know that
- 5:22Speaker 2: I served as the chair of Law and Public Safety.
- 5:25Speaker 2: And here's what a healthy council would do. Number One,
- 5:31Speaker 2: you would have your legal department right the owner and
- 5:34Speaker 2: say I'd like to have a discussion in a meeting
- 5:37Speaker 2: with you immediately like today. Number two, you'd hold an
- 5:42Speaker 2: open meeting on the floor of council where you bring
- 5:46Speaker 2: the owner in with your legal team sitting to your right,
- 5:50Speaker 2: and you say to the owner, listen, guy, on this day,
- 5:53Speaker 2: you had control of the door. You were the person responsible.
- 5:57Speaker 2: You had this group come and per form or have
- 6:00Speaker 2: the party in our city. Ultimately, dude, you are responsible.
- 6:06Speaker 2: Nine people were shot. What is your plan to tell
- 6:09Speaker 2: the city of Cincinnati this will never happen again. I
- 6:13Speaker 2: don't want to turn on CNN and see another mass
- 6:16Speaker 2: shooting at your location. So, like what you're trying to
- 6:20Speaker 2: do is get the owner to come up with a plan. Now,
- 6:24Speaker 2: if the owner fails to do that, you shut them down. Dude,
- 6:27Speaker 2: you say, GHI, you can't operate in my city. I'm
- 6:30Speaker 2: not gonna turn on the national news. All the money
- 6:32Speaker 2: that our corporation spends to brand Cincinnati as a good place,
- 6:36Speaker 2: We're not gonna let you ruin it because you can't
- 6:39Speaker 2: control the activities. That's your location. Your job is to
- 6:43Speaker 2: make sure that guns don't get into the operation. And
- 6:46Speaker 2: if you can't do that, dude, we're gonna shut you down.
- 6:49Speaker 2: My point is that this mayor and this council, they
- 6:53Speaker 2: will be passing resolutions this week on what's going on
- 6:56Speaker 2: in Iran. Guarantee it just like they were passing residents
- 7:00Speaker 2: on what was going on in Israel and what was
- 7:03Speaker 2: happening with the Palestinians or what they should have been
- 7:06Speaker 2: talking about. It's the mods. We mean they packed the
- 7:08Speaker 2: chambers for these nonsensical things, but they won't introduce a
- 7:13Speaker 2: resolution that says, we are very concerned about this shooting,
- 7:18Speaker 2: we are concerned about the violence in our urban core,
- 7:21Speaker 2: and here are the things we're going to do about it.
- 7:23Speaker 2: Because guess what, public, that's what they actually have control over.
- 7:27Speaker 2: That's what we've elected them to do. But they would
- 7:29Speaker 2: rather talk about stuff they have no control over that
- 7:32Speaker 2: they should not be discussing. That's not the city's business.
- 7:36Speaker 2: Look for them to introduce resolutions about Trump his war powers,
- 7:41Speaker 2: what's happening in Iran, and nothing about what is happening
- 7:45Speaker 2: specifically with the Riverfront lie active shooter, which is in
- 7:49Speaker 2: their jurisdiction.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I'm wondering what they could actually do
- 7:53Speaker 1: about it. I mean, other than scream and cry and
- 7:55Speaker 1: will and nashties about the existence of firearms. Generally speaking,
- 7:59Speaker 1: the question is, how is it that some person comes
- 8:02Speaker 1: to the conclusion they're going to take their perhaps lawfully
- 8:05Speaker 1: on firearm and start squeezing it off randomly into a crowd.
- 8:08Speaker 1: To do about it, how do you deal with someone
- 8:11Speaker 1: who would engage in that kind of behavior. I don't know.
- 8:15Speaker 2: I don't have the cooperation. Brother, if I'm standing, if
- 8:18Speaker 2: I'm the strong mayor, I'm trying to find the shooter.
- 8:21Speaker 2: So number one, I've got it. I've got a a
- 8:25Speaker 2: something on the line financially for information about who was
- 8:29Speaker 2: doing the shooting, meaning there's got to be video, there's
- 8:32Speaker 2: gotta be takes. We are continually looking for people to
- 8:36Speaker 2: cooperate with our police department. This is something that we
- 8:39Speaker 2: should have heard from the mayor and the city manager.
- 8:42Speaker 2: The reason they don't do that right is because they're
- 8:45Speaker 2: soft on crime. Because then and that's in their head,
- 8:48Speaker 2: it's in their culture. Like if we find the person
- 8:51Speaker 2: right and we arrest a person, how many of us
- 8:54Speaker 2: believe that they won't be let out, Like they'll come
- 8:56Speaker 2: right in and out the door the next day. Meaning
- 8:59Speaker 2: were they seem to have this I'm gonna coddle the
- 9:02Speaker 2: criminal kind of mentality. And that's why they did not
- 9:05Speaker 2: speak to that. They spoke to our emotion about how
- 9:09Speaker 2: we feel. I'm sorry about what happened. Look Strong mayor,
- 9:12Speaker 2: your staff, city manager, cities listener, if you're listening to
- 9:16Speaker 2: this broadcast this morning, you are the leaders of the city.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Your job is to bring the owner into compliance right.
- 9:26Speaker 2: If he cannot run an establishment where nine people are shot,
- 9:30Speaker 2: shut him down, don't give up a permit, make it
- 9:34Speaker 2: difficult for him to do business in the city of Cincinnati.
- 9:38Speaker 2: But don't scream about you love black people, black lives matter,
- 9:42Speaker 2: putting murals on the front of city Hall. But when
- 9:45Speaker 2: it counts, when we need you, when we need you
- 9:49Speaker 2: to show that you actually care, you do nothing. You
- 9:52Speaker 2: don't empower our police department to do their job. You
- 9:56Speaker 2: don't say I love my police and we need you
- 9:58Speaker 2: now to do every everything you can to find the
- 10:01Speaker 2: people that shot nine people. If that was one of
- 10:04Speaker 2: my babies right now, I would be going nuts on
- 10:07Speaker 2: this mayor. I would be going nuts on this city manager.
- 10:11Speaker 2: I would be going nuts on the city solicitor, all
- 10:13Speaker 2: nine members of council because they are not showing the
- 10:17Speaker 2: leadership for this not to happen again.
- 10:19Speaker 1: Brian Thomas, well, thank god your daughter wasn't implicated, because
- 10:22Speaker 1: you are already going nuts on the administration. I appreciate it.
- 10:25Speaker 2: She wouldn't be at it. She would not be at
- 10:27Speaker 2: an event like that, brother, because I'm a dad that
- 10:29Speaker 2: is absolutely on it. Even into her twenties. She understands
- 10:33Speaker 2: what the boundaries are. They're great parents out there, single
- 10:37Speaker 2: moms every day who wake up and do everything they
- 10:40Speaker 2: can for their families. Ninety nine percent of the people
- 10:44Speaker 2: that went to that event, law abiding citizens, had nothing
- 10:47Speaker 2: to do with it. But guess what happened. We had
- 10:49Speaker 2: a owner who did not control that. Listen, you can say, oh,
- 10:54Speaker 2: he's snuck it in. Don't bring these groups, Brian. No
- 10:58Speaker 2: one told him to bring this particular DJ to the
- 11:02Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati. If he cannot handle the crowd, don't
- 11:07Speaker 2: bring them here. That's what I'm trying to say, Brian.
- 11:09Speaker 2: And if you've got a strong mayor, you've got nine
- 11:12Speaker 2: members of council, you've got a city solicitor, Please don't
- 11:15Speaker 2: get on the mic and act like you don't have
- 11:17Speaker 2: any power to do anything while you have a neural
- 11:21Speaker 2: at the front of your city hall that says black
- 11:23Speaker 2: lives matter.
- 11:24Speaker 1: Well, it was just two days after DJ fresh Day
- 11:27Speaker 1: Proclamation from twenty twenty five. Interesting that maybe you can
- 11:30Speaker 1: comment on that as well. More with Christopher Smithman a
- 11:33Speaker 1: true smith event. Yes it is deep talk station.
- 11:37Speaker 2: I'm brag as hell, but I'm not gonna take this anymore.
- 11:41Speaker 1: That's Christopher Smithman today and every Monday with a smith
- 11:44Speaker 1: Event's feven forty two right now. But you about KCD
- 11:46Speaker 1: talk station, Christopher, you suggested that DJ Fresh one of
- 11:49Speaker 1: the performers at the nightclub over the weekend. Perhaps one
- 11:52Speaker 1: of the reasons you went did he draw an unsavory
- 11:55Speaker 1: crowd or something was was he? Is he known to
- 11:57Speaker 1: draw audiences that engage in I don't know. We'll call
- 12:00Speaker 1: it criminal behavior to boil it down. What's the story
- 12:02Speaker 1: on that?
- 12:03Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I just all I can say
- 12:06Speaker 2: is that, Yeah, all I can say is that the
- 12:09Speaker 2: owner hosted the party and it's his house. And at
- 12:15Speaker 2: the same time, he admitted that he was responsible for
- 12:19Speaker 2: controlling the door, meaning he's clearly right, and he had
- 12:24Speaker 2: the metal detectors their conversations about whether they were working
- 12:27Speaker 2: or not. I don't know, but he was responsible for that.
- 12:31Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, the buck stops
- 12:33Speaker 2: with him, and so he didn't turn that over to
- 12:37Speaker 2: the producers. Are the people that were coming there to party.
- 12:41Speaker 2: He remained or retained control of his facility, which makes
- 12:46Speaker 2: him responsible. Look, Brian, I want to say one other
- 12:49Speaker 2: thing here, because I know our time. I want to
- 12:51Speaker 2: send my big hats off to our troops. You know,
- 12:55Speaker 2: I have a son who has served and is serving.
- 12:58Speaker 2: He's back, he served active duties back as you know,
- 13:00Speaker 2: and he's doing National Guard stuff. But we got troops
- 13:04Speaker 2: all over the world, parents, you know, who are supporting
- 13:07Speaker 2: their families. They've got husbands and wives and daughters and
- 13:12Speaker 2: sons who are serving. My hat goes off to them.
- 13:16Speaker 2: My prayers go off to them. The servicemen that lost
- 13:19Speaker 2: their life, you know, and who were injured, my hats
- 13:22Speaker 2: go off to them. I want to be very clear
- 13:25Speaker 2: that I am pro America. So if you're listening to me,
- 13:28Speaker 2: I love the United States of America. I love our flag,
- 13:32Speaker 2: and that this is not me saying that America is perfect.
- 13:36Speaker 2: We are an experiment, but that doesn't mean that I
- 13:39Speaker 2: don't love this country and the benefits that I get
- 13:42Speaker 2: from this country. We have a president who made a
- 13:46Speaker 2: decision that lots of other presidents had not made. Right.
- 13:50Speaker 2: I don't have enough information. I'm not the CIA to know, Okay,
- 13:54Speaker 2: was this the right decision? This is when you say
- 13:57Speaker 2: I support my country, I support the president to do nothing.
- 14:01Speaker 2: Congress that always sits out there over the next week,
- 14:04Speaker 2: and says, oh man, we've got to convene. You didn't
- 14:08Speaker 2: come tell me we're gonna take a vote. Go take
- 14:11Speaker 2: your votes, Go do what you're gonna do, whatever you're
- 14:14Speaker 2: gonna do, which is gonna be nothing. And so that
- 14:16Speaker 2: is why we don't make progress in this country and
- 14:19Speaker 2: in this world. Bottom line is, this is a country
- 14:22Speaker 2: that has been screaming death to America for forty seven years.
- 14:28Speaker 2: We finally have a president that believes them, and so
- 14:32Speaker 2: stop saying it around the world. I would say over
- 14:36Speaker 2: the next three years. That's the lesson. Don't convene all
- 14:39Speaker 2: your generals and your leaders in one room while you
- 14:42Speaker 2: are saying death to America. You might want to spread
- 14:45Speaker 2: out two on two. Two on two, maybe fifty targets
- 14:51Speaker 2: are the zoo con But it was a bad idea
- 14:54Speaker 2: to say death to America and then everybody get together
- 14:57Speaker 2: for a meeting. Less and learned. But at the end
- 15:00Speaker 2: of the day, we have to be about the business
- 15:03Speaker 2: of supporting our leaders when they are making decisions like this,
- 15:07Speaker 2: and most importantly, supporting our troops. I'm tired of all
- 15:10Speaker 2: this anti American stuff coming from our Congress and our
- 15:13Speaker 2: leaders about what they would do if they want to
- 15:15Speaker 2: be the president, run for president of the United States
- 15:18Speaker 2: of America in the next three years. Put your name
- 15:21Speaker 2: on the ballot, and let's see if Americans choose you.
- 15:24Speaker 2: If not, go take a vote, Go do something. But
- 15:27Speaker 2: stop condemning every move that's coming out of the White House.
- 15:30Speaker 2: From what I've seen, the people in Iran are very
- 15:33Speaker 2: happy about the outcome. Right now, they're in the streets,
- 15:36Speaker 2: they're saying, I want change. This probably will go down
- 15:40Speaker 2: as a game changer for the Middle East for a
- 15:43Speaker 2: lot of reasons. But at the end, here's what I
- 15:45Speaker 2: want to say. This is a country that has killed
- 15:48Speaker 2: a lot of Americans. That's a fact. I don't know
- 15:50Speaker 2: how many they killed, but they've killed a lot of Americans.
- 15:54Speaker 2: Let's at least give this White House the room right
- 15:58Speaker 2: to see where this thing plays out before we start
- 16:01Speaker 2: condemning them. And we don't even have enough information to
- 16:04Speaker 2: know where this thing is going.
- 16:05Speaker 1: No, we do not. And the other interesting thing is
- 16:08Speaker 1: that I've been commenting about this, I'm not the only one.
- 16:09Speaker 1: All of the different Arab nations that the Iranians launched
- 16:12Speaker 1: missiles into, I think they thought the expectation was that
- 16:15Speaker 1: would bring about pressure on the United States to back off,
- 16:19Speaker 1: to enter into a pause so more discussions and more
- 16:25Speaker 1: peace discussions and negotiation could take place. But they came
- 16:29Speaker 1: out and criticized the run for the response. They didn't
- 16:31Speaker 1: criticize the United States. I think they all are looking
- 16:34Speaker 1: for future stability in the region, a stability that is
- 16:37Speaker 1: made impossible because of the Iranians. Thus far, one.
- 16:41Speaker 2: Hundred percent Americans out here listening to the two of
- 16:45Speaker 2: us right, have to understand that there are times that
- 16:49Speaker 2: things are happening in other countries that are the interests
- 16:52Speaker 2: of America. Meaning this is a sponsor. This country sponsors
- 16:58Speaker 2: terrorism around the world. Earl right. They are responsible for
- 17:02Speaker 2: the murder of lots of Americans, our soldiers. And so
- 17:08Speaker 2: this president just said, listen, I'm trying to negotiate with
- 17:11Speaker 2: you about your nuclear your desire to get a nuclear weapon.
- 17:14Speaker 2: If Iran gets a nuclear weapon, they're saying death to America.
- 17:18Speaker 2: We should all assume that they're gonna point their missiles
- 17:20Speaker 2: towards us, all of them. You heard the President say, listen,
- 17:23Speaker 2: I'm gonna clean this up for many generations coming after me,
- 17:27Speaker 2: meaning I'm gonna make the Middle East a more stable place.
- 17:31Speaker 2: We're gonna make sure that Iran stops doing what they're doing.
- 17:34Speaker 2: And all I ask, if I would say anything, if
- 17:36Speaker 2: I could talk to the White House, which I can't,
- 17:38Speaker 2: is to say, let's get it done right the first time,
- 17:41Speaker 2: so that we're not coming back, no troops on the ground,
- 17:45Speaker 2: and let's let Israel do their work and let the
- 17:47Speaker 2: people of Iran rise up, which is what it looks
- 17:50Speaker 2: like they're doing, and take their country back and have
- 17:53Speaker 2: their own self determination. But let's not forget that this
- 17:58Speaker 2: is a country that has been saying deft to America
- 18:01Speaker 2: for forty seven years. This president said, I believe them.
- 18:06Speaker 2: I believe that that's what they feel. They're killing us
- 18:09Speaker 2: from time to time with these terrorists attacks. And all
- 18:12Speaker 2: I'm saying is I'm not a person for war. I'm
- 18:14Speaker 2: not a person that wants violence. That's not where my
- 18:17Speaker 2: head is. But I also understand that times war is
- 18:20Speaker 2: a necessary part of the work that we do in
- 18:23Speaker 2: this country, and at this time we should all be
- 18:26Speaker 2: unifying around the right House. I don't care who the
- 18:28Speaker 2: president is. If it's Obama, if it's Bush, if it's Clinton,
- 18:31Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if it's Reagan. We get behind our
- 18:35Speaker 2: president and we see this through.
- 18:37Speaker 1: That's what elections are about well, and I will acknowledge
- 18:40Speaker 1: and point out up front unexpected comments. This not just
- 18:43Speaker 1: the Arab nations supporting us in our actions. Germany, France
- 18:46Speaker 1: and UK, which of course didn't participate in the strikes,
- 18:49Speaker 1: said yesterday they will take teps to the steps to
- 18:51Speaker 1: defend their interest and those of our allies in the region,
- 18:54Speaker 1: potentially through enabling necessary and proportionate defensive action to destroy
- 18:58Speaker 1: Iran's capability to fire missiles and drones at their source.
- 19:02Speaker 1: Sounds to me like the EE or the NATO countries
- 19:04Speaker 1: are also on board the suggestion we need to emasculate
- 19:08Speaker 1: Iran now while we have the chance. Let's take care
- 19:10Speaker 1: of business.