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2025 Wrap-Up · Why We Do What We Do

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Why we Do what we do. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Why we do what we do? I am your
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  Speaker 1: putting this one to bed host Abraham, and I.
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  Speaker 2: Am your Maybe I'll make a New Year's resolution, host Shane.
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  Speaker 1: We are a psychology podcast. We talk about the things
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  Speaker 1: that humans and non human animals do. We're recording this
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  Speaker 1: and releasing this near the end of the year, so
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  Speaker 1: we are preparing to transition into twenty twenty six, and
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  Speaker 1: it's a time of year in which we just reflect
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  Speaker 1: on the year we've had and some of the things
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  Speaker 1: that have happened to us personally and in the show,
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  Speaker 1: and just wrap up the year. And that's what we're
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  Speaker 1: doing here today.
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  Speaker 2: This is our annual wrap up, which is a lot
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  Speaker 2: of fun. So we are sometimes, like you said, we
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  Speaker 2: talk about what people do and what animals do, and
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  Speaker 2: sometimes we talk about what we do. And so that's
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  Speaker 2: what we're going to talk about today. It's what we do.
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  Speaker 2: We do what we do?
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  Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, the we that is you and I
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  Speaker 1: and not the collective way that is human beings more broadly, Yes, exactly, exactly. Yeah. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: if you're joining us for the first time, then welcome.
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  Speaker 1: We hope that you enjoy what you're here today. This
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  Speaker 1: is a bit more on the sort of a rambly
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  Speaker 1: side than a structured discussion about a particular topic that
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  Speaker 1: we usually have, but hopefully you will still have fun
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  Speaker 1: with it. If you're a returning listener, then welcome back.
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  Speaker 1: This is a bit more on the lighthearted side of things,
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  Speaker 1: so it should be should be I think light and
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  Speaker 1: airy and interesting and yeah it'll just be good. But
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  Speaker 1: either way, if you like to support us, you can
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  Speaker 1: join us on Patreon, like, and subscribe, tell a friends,
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  Speaker 1: all those things. I'll talk more about that at the
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  Speaker 1: end of our discussion today. But this is a rare treat.
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  Speaker 1: We are releasing this on the first day of the year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'd like to wish everyone on a happy New Year.
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  Speaker 2: Happy New Year everyone. What a treat like this is?
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  Speaker 2: This is so fun. It's also hogmanay okay, sure, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Those are it sounds for those of you who celebrate. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is leap second time Adjustment day and interested to
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  Speaker 1: learn more about this because you know, the reason we
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  Speaker 1: add a leap year is because there is like a
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  Speaker 1: quarter of a year that we travel around the sun,
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  Speaker 1: so like to accommodate that in our calendar we add
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  Speaker 1: one extra day every four years, but it's not actually
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  Speaker 1: an exact quarter of a year, and so over time
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  Speaker 1: it adds up. So I'm guessing it has to do
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  Speaker 1: with the the extra seconds on top of our rotation
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  Speaker 1: in the solar system.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't we figure out that that could be completely
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  Speaker 2: negated with a thirteenth month calendar or something like that,
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  Speaker 2: Like we don't even need a leap year because we
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  Speaker 2: if we have a thirteen month calendar, like it would
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  Speaker 2: accommodate for that.
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  Speaker 1: It wouldn't necessarily commodate. What the thirteen month calendar would
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  Speaker 1: allow us to do is have an exact the exact
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  Speaker 1: same number of days per month. And yeah, every day,
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  Speaker 1: like every date would fall in the same day every year,
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  Speaker 1: so like right, right, Like, let's just assume we started
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  Speaker 1: on Monday, Like January first would always be Monday. I'm
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  Speaker 1: here on out if we adopted a thirteen month calendar,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't think it addresses the leap year problem.
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  Speaker 1: We'd still need to add that. But the other thing
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  Speaker 1: that happens in the thirteen month calendar is we would
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  Speaker 1: have one extra day every year. That's just like not
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  Speaker 1: in a month or like one month. That's a day longer,
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  Speaker 1: and I figure we just all take that day off.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be my suggestion.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a liminal day. So speaking of calendars and
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  Speaker 2: time and leap seconds all that. It's also make up
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  Speaker 2: your Mind Day.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, we were talking about holidays. I talked so long
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  Speaker 1: about the thirteen month calendar. Great, make up your mind Day.
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  Speaker 1: It's also National Champagne Day if you live in that
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  Speaker 1: part of France. Yeah. It's also non Eruptions Day. I
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  Speaker 1: knew it in Cow. There's no interruptions day for everyone.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't catch that because I interrupted. It's an unlucky day.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, it's World Peace Meditation Day.
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  Speaker 1: Great, okay, And it is Kwansa. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: We're right in the midst of Kwanza when this comes out,
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  Speaker 2: so it's good times.
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  Speaker 1: Excellent. We should do an episode on Kwansa sometime, we should,
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  Speaker 1: all right, anyway, that's all we have to say about holidays.
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  Speaker 1: Mostly we're here to talk about what happened this year
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  Speaker 1: and wrap things up. So I think we're ready to
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  Speaker 1: jump into the content for this. Is there anything that
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  Speaker 1: I am missing as part of our preamble before we
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  Speaker 1: say go, uh, nope, all right, then ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do it. So, as I said, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: spend this episode reflecting on the year we've had. We're
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  Speaker 1: also going to summarize some of the things we did
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  Speaker 1: as a podcast and some of the things we did personally.
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready to jump in. Yeah. So, as a podcast,
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  Speaker 1: we are a little podcast.
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  Speaker 2: So numbers we're about to tell you would sound very
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  Speaker 2: sad for most people trying to be a successful podcast.
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  Speaker 2: But we're having fun, we're doing it the way that
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  Speaker 2: we want to do it, and we're proud of the
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  Speaker 2: work that we do. So we're going to share our
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  Speaker 2: little numbers proudly because this is what we do and
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  Speaker 2: this is how we keep track of how well we
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  Speaker 2: are doing as a podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, at the time of this recording, we have
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  Speaker 1: a little over three hundred and twenty six thousand downloads
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  Speaker 1: according to the data from our distribution platform. So again,
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  Speaker 1: that's like that'd be a pitiful number for like a
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  Speaker 1: day's worth of episodes free in like a bigger podcast,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, it seems like a lot of a download
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  Speaker 1: so I'm happy with it. Yeah, Yeah, I feel good.
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  Speaker 2: We have two point two thousand listeners on Spotify, with
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  Speaker 2: one point eight thousand of them being brand new listeners,
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  Speaker 2: which is really great, And according to Spotify, that is
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  Speaker 2: a nine hundred and ninety nine percent increase, So we're
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  Speaker 2: doing something right somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, almost one thousand percent, or maybe they don't go
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  Speaker 1: up to one thousand and so they just put it
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  Speaker 1: at nine to nine nine. Yeah. Yeah, So this is
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  Speaker 1: part of this right here, is our Spotify wrapped data
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  Speaker 1: that we get as content creators. Yeah, that's what we're
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  Speaker 1: going through now. So we have two point six thousand
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  Speaker 1: followers on Spotify. That's a fifteen percent increase from last year.
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  Speaker 1: And our most popular episode ever remains our most popular
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  Speaker 1: episode ever. This is episode fifty five, all the way
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  Speaker 1: back and just barely outside of our very first year
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  Speaker 1: of recording, and this is an episode we released on
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  Speaker 1: Organizational Psychology, which has one point two thousand plays on Spotify,
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  Speaker 1: which is like one of our smaller platforms where episodes
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  Speaker 1: are listened to, and that's nearly one thousand percent more
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  Speaker 1: than any other episode. And at this point I'm fairly
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  Speaker 1: convinced that this is like assigned for a class somewhere,
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  Speaker 1: because we put that episode out so long ago and
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  Speaker 1: it just keeps getting a ton of plays And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure I'd be proud of like what
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  Speaker 1: we did in that episode, but it feels hard to
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  Speaker 1: like justify that being our most popular episode unless someone
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  Speaker 1: was being forced to listen to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's fair. That's fair.
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  Speaker 2: Our most commented on episode from the last year was
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  Speaker 2: the episode called Head Go Bonk Bad, which is about
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  Speaker 2: CTE largely through correct feedback, which is interesting, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: it was the most commented and Canadians were our largest
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  Speaker 2: contributor to the comments as it pertains to that episode,
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  Speaker 2: which is really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Oh just as our comments overall.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, our friends of the Great White North are the
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  Speaker 2: the most commentating of them, I.
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  Speaker 1: Guess yes, which is great, like keep them coming, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: love it. We were played in an impressive seventy eight
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  Speaker 1: countries in order of most to least our top five countries, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: not of most to least, of least to most. For
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  Speaker 1: our top five least of the top five was New Zealand,
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  Speaker 1: then UK, Australia, Canada, and most of our plays and
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  Speaker 1: downloads were in the United States. This year, almost seventy
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  Speaker 1: percent of our audience was between the ages of twenty
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  Speaker 1: eight to fifty nine. Sixty two percent identified as female,
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  Speaker 1: thirty eight percent as male, six percent did not specify,
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  Speaker 1: and two percent identified as non binary. So that's sort
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  Speaker 1: of just the people who are listening to it. So
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  Speaker 1: given that that makes up over two thirds of our listeners,
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  Speaker 1: that's probably you, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Look at that super interesting too, because that doesn't like
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  Speaker 2: reflect our field at large, which is really fascinating. Like
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  Speaker 2: our field is like ninety percent people who identify as
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  Speaker 2: women and then a mixture of everybody else beyond that,
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  Speaker 2: So super fascinating as far as that goes. We were
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  Speaker 2: a top ten show for seven hundred and sixty seven people,
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  Speaker 2: which we think means in the top ten most played podcast,
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  Speaker 2: which could be due to sheer volume from us. We
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  Speaker 2: put out so much episodes. I mean we put out
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  Speaker 2: we put out two episodes a week, so we can
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  Speaker 2: talk about that. We were the top five for four
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  Speaker 2: hundred and forty five people, and we were the number
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  Speaker 2: one show for ninety seven people. So thank you to
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  Speaker 2: all those folks for giving us a listen and continuing
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  Speaker 2: to stay with us.
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  Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Yeah, and again, like this seems like a
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  Speaker 1: small number but like those ninety seven people's that's pretty oppressive.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's ninety seven people who are dedicated to
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  Speaker 2: listening to us and giving us the time of day,
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  Speaker 2: which is just astounding.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah most of the time of day. Yeah, okay, So
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  Speaker 1: our top listeners streamed us five point eight times more
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  Speaker 1: than any other show, and fifteen percent of them listened
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  Speaker 1: to two or more episodes in a single day at
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  Speaker 1: least on some occasions. Apparently our followers listened to our
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  Speaker 1: show for longer than ninety five percent of other shows,
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  Speaker 1: which again maybe has to do with volume and length
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  Speaker 1: of the episodes. We received more comments than ninety three
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  Speaker 1: percent of other shows and received more shares than ninety
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  Speaker 1: one percent of other shows, and part of that's probably
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  Speaker 1: like dead shows that barely exist anymore, shows that like
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  Speaker 1: are just very very small and don't really have much
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  Speaker 1: of a dedicated audience. So yeah, but either way, I'm
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  Speaker 1: very humbled and flattered that like that people are listening
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  Speaker 1: to us that much. So thank you for checking us
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  Speaker 1: out and listening. We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And our listener's top music choices were
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  Speaker 2: in order from least to most common. Kendrick Lamar Drake,
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  Speaker 2: which is really funny. Those two are together. Yeah, Morgan
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  Speaker 2: Wallin and Bad Bunny, which is also funny.
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  Speaker 1: Those two are together.
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  Speaker 2: And Taylor Swift and audiobook choices were the let Them
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  Speaker 2: theory in ten Minutes, twelve, Laws of the Universe, The
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  Speaker 2: House of My Mother, and Everything is to Berculosis as
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  Speaker 2: well as atomic habits. So people listening to some cool
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  Speaker 2: science books, it sounds like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've both read Everything is Tuberculosis, and I think
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  Speaker 1: reckon edit it on here, yes, and then I believe
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  Speaker 1: I've read Atomic CABT, so don't need to check and
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  Speaker 1: make sure that's the right book I'm thinking of. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, our music list was kind of funny. I
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  Speaker 1: actually don't know Morgan Wallen.
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  Speaker 2: What is that you would hate everything that Morgan Wallen
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  Speaker 2: is about? Like very right wing country music star?
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  Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah huh.
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  Speaker 2: Not your cup of tea, I'll say it like that,
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  Speaker 2: not your cup of tea. We're not going to yuck
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  Speaker 2: somebody as yum if you like to listen to whatever
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  Speaker 2: music you like, which is why I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: talk trash about Taylor Swift either, but definitely not our
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  Speaker 2: cup of tea here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, yeah, people are going to listen to the
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  Speaker 1: music that they like, and then they're going to listen
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  Speaker 1: to ads that they don't like. Yeah, here we are
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  Speaker 1: all right. We were back. We were just giving a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of our riveting stats about things that are retained
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  Speaker 1: to our productivity as a podcast. I guess let's get
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  Speaker 1: into really quick. There was a couple of pieces of
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  Speaker 1: feedback I've been trying to figure out where to slot them.
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  Speaker 1: A little while back, we released an episode, a mini
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  Speaker 1: episode on no Nut November, and in it we had
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  Speaker 1: cited one article, largely because the content that we got
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  Speaker 1: that from had cited that article from a couple different places.
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  Speaker 1: And I failed to check on this. And actually I
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  Speaker 1: know that I went to the article and just completely
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  Speaker 1: didn't pay attention to the fact that that article was
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  Speaker 1: redacted like years ago. It was redacted for data fabrication issues,
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  Speaker 1: and this is one that demonstrated that there was a
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  Speaker 1: testosterone increase for withholding ejaculation. Sure, so it only gives
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  Speaker 1: rise further to the idea that no Nut November is dumb.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you to Nicole Prouse for that correction that
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  Speaker 1: we failed to attend to the fact that we were
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  Speaker 1: citing a source that had been redacted, but in so
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  Speaker 1: doing it actually makes our argument somewhat stronger. Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 1: it's only as a part of the fact that we're
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  Speaker 1: saying no November is dumb yep. Absolutely. The other one
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  Speaker 1: I got, which wasn't really corrective feedback, It was just
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  Speaker 1: like an added piece of information just for like context,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, which was that the idea of six seven.
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  Speaker 1: One listener said that it belongs to the greater mimetic
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  Speaker 1: genre of brain rot, which is intentionally many less phrases,
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  Speaker 1: images and activities that are repeated by people for a
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  Speaker 1: while for lulls, l u, l z, yep, and then dropped,
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  Speaker 1: which like, obviously there have been a few of those
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  Speaker 1: over time, and I think there's going to be more.
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  Speaker 1: It's always difficult to tell, like what's going to stick
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  Speaker 1: in the lexicon and what will go away. Sure, I
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  Speaker 1: think six to seven is is one that will go
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  Speaker 1: away because it's it's meaningless. The new phrase everybody's saying
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  Speaker 1: crash out, which seems quite dramatic, but that one might
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  Speaker 1: actually stick because I feel like I hear it used
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  Speaker 1: functionally quite a bit. But who knows how to predict
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  Speaker 1: these things, you know, Yeah, you know, it's hard to say.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I still use Booty Delicious on a day
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  Speaker 2: to day basis, so, you know, just it's something's just stick.
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  Speaker 1: I guess it depends on the user. Yeah, as an easter,
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  Speaker 1: I go through and see if you can catch how
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  Speaker 1: many times Shane says Booty Delicious across our various episodes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to. I would love to get
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  Speaker 2: those data. It's probably at least seven or six or seven.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. That was that was well done. Chef's kiss on.
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  Speaker 2: You're welcome, folks. You're welcome, folks. This is what you
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  Speaker 2: come here for, right. You don't come here for science,
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  Speaker 2: you come here for my stupid dad jokes.
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  Speaker 1: That worked quite well. All right, thanks, Well let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about stuff that we did this year also as a podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we started doing mini episodes in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: four and we continue to do them every Monday through
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. That's something that we pride ourselves on
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  Speaker 2: on the show is that we work really hard not
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  Speaker 2: to miss a week, and we work really hard, like
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  Speaker 2: y'all will know, we work really hard to like reschedule
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  Speaker 2: stuff and make sure stuff happens so that you get
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  Speaker 2: an episode in a week. We bogg Justin down with
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  Speaker 2: episodes to be like, hey, we need this out soon,
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  Speaker 2: so like huge shout.
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  Speaker 1: Out to Justin as well.
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  Speaker 2: But we kicked off the new year in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: five with our four hundredth full length episode, which is awesome,
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  Speaker 2: which we decided to make about nostalgia. So we covered
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  Speaker 2: nostalgia in a four hundredth episode about nostalgia. So we'll
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  Speaker 2: have to figure out what five hundred looks like in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven.
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  Speaker 1: And that'll be right around the end of twenty twenty six, actually,
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  Speaker 1: I think, because we're at four fifty two for this episode,
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  Speaker 1: so in two weeks, but it'll be right around the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of no of December, end of November that we'll
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  Speaker 1: be hitting episode five hundred in twenty twenty six. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll have to think of something fun to do because well,
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  Speaker 1: then we'll be halfway to one thousand. We just keep
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  Speaker 1: this up and do the exact amount of episodes we've
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  Speaker 1: done up until this up until that point next year,
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  Speaker 1: we'll be at one thousand.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, until we die, So we'll be like the Rick
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  Speaker 2: Flair of podcasts, where we just wrestle until we can't.
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  Speaker 1: I'm assuming that is a wrestling reference, because that is
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  Speaker 1: a wrestling reference. Okay, great, some people got it. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so yeah, the minis have been really fun. We've kept
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  Speaker 1: up with those. It's been a great way to like
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  Speaker 1: talk about something that we don't need a full length
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  Speaker 1: for and like it's it's just a fun thing to
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  Speaker 1: talk about. So yeah, for sure. Okay. Coincidentally, we released
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  Speaker 1: only four nostalgia episodes this year, which I believe is
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  Speaker 1: down even from the year before, which we specifically started
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  Speaker 1: the year saying like we could do more nostalgia episodes
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  Speaker 1: and then we just didn't.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about doing one every month, and then we
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  Speaker 2: decided not to.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently, yeah, you know, we did one every two months. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: three months. Actually yeah so and actually not quite on
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  Speaker 1: that episode, but are on that schedule. But but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so about four nostalgia episodes this year. For those who
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  Speaker 1: don't know, nostalgia episodes are re releases of previous episodes
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  Speaker 1: and then we usually add a little bit like update
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  Speaker 1: to that topic as it you know, things change over time,
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  Speaker 1: and so we revisit some of the research that's come
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  Speaker 1: out since those and we always pick episodes that are
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  Speaker 1: at least five years old. There may be a couple
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  Speaker 1: exceptions where there are more recent, but most of them
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  Speaker 1: are five years old or older. Yeah, since you know,
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  Speaker 1: we keep doing this thing. So that was that. We
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: had two guest interview episodes, one with the authors of
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the book Reframe, a Framework for developing a Compassionate Care
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: instructional model, and then one about journalism with Ben Miller.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Ben Miller was the commenter about the brain rot stuff. Yeah,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: and then we also finished our suite of episodes on
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: disability and accessibility. It just finished last week. So if
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: you were curious about that topic, we have several is
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: like seven or eight episodes that were all about that. Yeah,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: check them out. Yeah.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I think we did a pretty good job with those
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: episodes too.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I feel good.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: So our full length episodes, we did quite a few
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: this year. I would say, I don't know, just hazard
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: a guess. About fifty two, we did The Good Old Days,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: which is about nostalgia. We talked about the league schools,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: We talked about emotional reactions to art through stend All syndrome.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: We talked about competition, bullying, adrenaline junkies. Finally, we had
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: talked about doing Adrenaline Junkies for years and we had
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: not ever gotten to that episode until this year. We
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: decided to finally like get to it, so yeah, which
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I thought was cool.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: That was maybe the first or second year of podcasting
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: that baited to the list and yeah, we got it done.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: We finally got it. We also did Bloodstained pattern Analysis.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: We did a nostalgic episode on whether or not babies
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: recognize good or evil. We covered DEI which will get
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: a shut down eventually, paradox totolerance, imposter syndrome, daylight savings,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: time being unhoused parts one and two, and the benefits
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: of massage.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, and then Imposter Syndrome was also a nostalgia release
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: that one. Yes, and then in that interview of journalism
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: versus the World, we're just talking about the effect and
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: importance of journalism. Did a two part series on teaching literacy,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: an episode called Privatize This which is all about privatization
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: and what that means for various industries. And then autism,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: which was intended to address the wildly and accurate and
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: misleading claims about autism from our wildly incompetent and horrible
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: people who currently run the health departments of our country. Yes.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, we did an installage episode on masturbation, which is
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun. We did one about people predicting
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: the world ending, which was fun. We called that one
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: the End Is Nigh. We did one on makeup. We
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: did one on the Golden Goose Awards replacement theory head
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Go Bonk Bad, which was all about CTE. We did
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: our interview with the Reframe folks. We did Tipping Point,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: which is about tipping culture, and we finally decided to
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: dive into the world of true crime and cults, like
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: really get into it with the specific incident known as Jonestown.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: We did a two part episode on that and really
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: started kind of looking into the behavior of cults and
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: how people get to these really dark and dangerous places.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: And because we can, we talked about sex, which is
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: to say, we talked about the paraphilia episode, and then
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: of course we talked more about sex and other contexts
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: because it is a thing that humans do and the
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: thing about which there is way too many hang ups
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: from people who choose to demonize and stigmatize that. Yes,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: so we feel the need to unpack that topic periodically.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: We talked about the history of punk music. That was
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: a really fun one. Yeah, Yeah, that was cool. We
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: called that punk rock Legacy with the Psychology of Pain,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the importance of peer review and scientific research, fast Fashion,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: and then one that I had also had a lot
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: of enjoyment from which was understanding Hiropractic. Yeah.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: We also did a two part series on propaganda, which
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: was actually really well received. I got a lot of
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: feedback on that too, like just kind of like people
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: commenting and saying that they really enjoyed that episode and
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: how scary it was. That series of episodes, and then
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: of course we followed our tradition of doing Halloween episodes,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: so we got to do a lot of really cool
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: things with titles like Variants of Hell. I love that
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: these all sound like B movie horrors, like horror movies.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I like that we did episodes like Variants of Hell,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I want to take you to the Bermuda Triangle, Mary
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Shelley's Frankenstein, How do Halloween mass affect our behavior?
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: And the d D ritual Sacrifice? Ooo? Spooky nice. It
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: was a good time. I love our love our Halloween episodes.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Those are so much fun. They are a lot of fun. Yeah,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: sometimes we have our topics like a year in advance
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: for what we're going to talk about in those because
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: we are thinking about Halloween so much. Yes, yes, all right,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: then we did our disability suite. So doing these like
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: suite of episode topics is not something we really planned on.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: It kind of just happened a couple of years ago,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: and then it happened again, and then it happened again.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: So it may like be a yearly thing we do.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe we won't do one for a while. Who knows,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. But we decided to talk about disability,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: and in this time we got into models of disability, autism, subtypes,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: accessibility for all terms and disability, sexuality and disability, private
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: equity and disability, and then disability and ability, as well
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: as cultural views on disability. And that was let make
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: all those up one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: eight episodes that we did on disability. Yeah.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: So sometimes we just get the bug to write about
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: something and then we just write and write and write,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: and that's how we end up with some of these suites.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: So like, some of the topics are just so big
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: to unpack that we can't just leave them.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: We can't just leave them be Yeah, exactly, and it
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: feels like it's worth it to make sure that we
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: have an episode length discussion like diving into that topic
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: and then or like a specific piece of content within
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: a particular genre of topics, if you will. Yeah, for sure.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: There was so many words that I just said that
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: felt like they were longer than they needed to be,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: kind of like ads. Okay, we're back. We've been just
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: sort of listening some of the things that we talked
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: about this year and weren't going to continue that because
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: we were just talking about our full length. So now
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: we're going to quickly read through the minis that we
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: also discussed. So I guess this is sort of like
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: a playlist suggestion for people who, like I don't know
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: what to listen to. For y'all, I just started listening
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: when you started putting, when I picked up some episodes
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: and then have listened since then. Maybe I'll hear something
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: in here that strikes that strikes your curiosity. But all right,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: let's burn through this list of minis that we recorded
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: on We did one on the students to teach a
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: ratio in classrooms how science names things we didn't want
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: on staring that I called stop Looking at Me swan
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: with watching zits pop, why wedding veils are a thing,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: High Dive into a Tiny Pool which is about stunt diving,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: and then Frizon musical Shivers. Yeah.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: We did do an episode on using ZIM prognostications, which
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: we had talked about in this one. This was our
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: third one about farming and the farming industry and where
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: that's going. We did variables to influence behavior and the
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: idea the thoughts cause behavior. We did a Moose Boosh,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: brain Freeze, Predictors of future behavior, fake news, author book signings,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: stress balls, and an episode called Release the Hostage, which
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: was a history of the practice of taking hostages and
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: what that meant.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it had some interesting roots in like I think
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: it was Roman mythology maybe something like that, But yeah,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: that's an interesting one. We did one on middle names,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: airplane boarding procedures, the idea of catch them being good,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: which is a behavior management strategy, sud aen Infant death
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Syndrome or SIDS, stuck in a music root, and then
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: pre registering scientific studies call which I called science cheat Prevention.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I love that. I love that.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: We also did one on the Scoville scale, so if
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: you like spicy foods. We did one on a placebo
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: control for vaccines, why we twitch being skeptical, which I love.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: We did want to learn helplessness and nail biting and
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: backseat driving, which we discovered is annoying for everybody. And
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: then we also really kind of like surprisingly, did a
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: mini on what is learning which didn't require as much
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: as you would think. You would think that would be
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: a full length episode, but we were able to do
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: it in a mini.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at least to help with the definition that I
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: think some people say learning and they mean I guess hearing,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah. We did one on restless leg syndrome,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: what is a repertoire, magic iposters, the concept of victim
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: versus warrior mentality. We asked the question do our pets
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: understand us? And the answer is kind of maybe, right.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: We did one on that time that humans loved radiation,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: which was fun and sad and scary. Yeah, the question
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: of like how many faces could you actually remember? Like
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: how many different faces? And it's spoiler alert a lot.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: And then one that was really fun on.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Kintsugi Yes, And then we did one on colored noise,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: which was white noise, brown nose, brown noise, brown nose,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: brown noise, green noise. We did our Halloween minis which
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: included Dunk Dunk du Rip six sixty six, Creepy Pasta,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: and the Huska Castle.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Then we did one on what the thin and Blue
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: line is, where that comes from, and what it means
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: and what now it means currently the signs that don't
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: mean that you have ADHD that people think do mean that,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: but they don't. Making things more accessible no, no, November,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the adaptive sex Toy Industry or sex product Industry, Perfect Pitch,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: which I called perfect Pitch Perfect, and then finally six seven.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Yep, we did a lot. We covered a lot of topics.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Oh and I think at the time that this is published,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: we also would have released our many on circular Breathing,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: and it was the other one we had coming out.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Oh what was the other one that we had coming out?
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Oh chorl responding, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yes, yes. They
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: both sound like music episodes, but one of them is
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: about teaching, one of them is about music. Right, all right,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: very good. That's everything we have to say about the
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: content that we released this year. That is a that
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: is a lot of research and writing. My goodness, yes,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: yes it is.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: You know, if we wanted to, we could do a
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: volume per year and put out our notes as like
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: a manual or a book of sorts, and been like, hey,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: look read what we read what we wrote for the year,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: if you wanted so.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so, if we released fifty two episodes,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: our notes are usually five or six pages long. I'm
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: just kind of for the sake of making this easy,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: make it five pages long. That would be a two
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty page book approximately. Yeah, that's that's wild.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: We could do those include the minis. So if we
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: included the minis, those are about a page long usually,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: so then that would be about three hundred and twelve pages. Yeah.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Nice a bookie year.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: So you're welcome look forward on your shelves of your
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: favorite bookstore sometime.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: That would be a daunting task, my goodness. Maybe. All right,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: talk about some personal things. I keep a list throughout
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: the year of movies that I watch, TV shows that
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I watch that are new that I hadn't seen before,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: books that I read, and then if I saw any
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: plays or other things like sort of things I guess
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: that I consumed that are maybe like media entertainment culture. Yeah,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised that I don't have a list for new
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: games that I played, but that might have to be
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: added for next year.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Then yeah, I wasna say that's this episode was sorely lacking.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised that you didn't have that on there. There
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: were so many this year too, and so many great.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: But I watched a lot of movies this year. I
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: watched sixty something movies, I think, So I'm gonna I'm
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: not gonna read them all, but I'm gonna just hit
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: some that sort of stood out to me that were fun.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I weirdly like, this is totally unintentional, but I like,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: weirdly watched a few movies all right around the same
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: time that were all about abduction. Oh weird. So there
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: was one called Amber Alert and Last Known Location Don't Move,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and I think Reptile may have been one, but I
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: don't remember now. Ones that I had some fun with.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Fly Me to the Moon was good, Godzilla X Kong
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: was ridiculous, but it was fun. Ye Long Legs was good,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Captain America Brave New World, Moanna too. My Old Ass
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: is like a very like that movie must have cost
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: them like one hundred thousand dollars, Like, it was not
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: hard to make movie, but it was really enjoyable, and
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: it's one that I've actually thought about a decent amount. Yeah,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Craven the Hunter, a complete unknown is the biography or
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: the biopic of Bob Dylan. Then Red Notice, which was fine,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Metal Lords, Electric State, Cinners was really good. Yes, Sinners
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: was great. Sound of Metal was good. That's one I've
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: also thought about a lot. Mickey seventeen. I really enjoyed
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: the New Jurassic World Rebirth, Superman, Wicked and then the
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: New Wicked movie because I had not seen Wicked before.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Fantastic Four, First Steps, Thunderbolts. Yeah, I'm just gonna say this,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: even though this is not something I'd recommend, but all
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: four of the Twilight movies it was more or less
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: required to watch. Yeah, The Woman in Cabin ten was
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: really good, the New I Know What You Did Last Summer,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: which was fine, Novacaine, Love Hurts, Nobody to The Family
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Plan To Those are all like very similar type of movies,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: just sort of yeah, give them up movies. Matter of fact,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I think it was the same production company made all
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: of those. Smile to Weapons, the New Freak Inside Movie
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: was really good, Wake Up dead Man, the most recent
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Knives Out Mystery, and then The Conjuring Last Rites. Those
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: those are all I mean, there's many more than that,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: but that was a bunch of the movies that I watched.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's some good ones in their weapons.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Was really a lot of fun, like so much fun.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Wow, that movie was like fun is not the word.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's I say fun because
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I just love I love a good horror movie, like
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: and I love when they're ridiculous. The best, one of
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: the best scenes I've ever seen in any horror movie
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: is the ending when everybody's running through the houses.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I'll leave it at that.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: That is one of the most fun scenes I've ever
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: It's like so satisfying, that whole scene.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: It was great. Yeah. Yeah, it turns into a wee
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: bit of comedy here and there. Yeah it does. It's
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: a little bit ridiculous in somewhat expected places. Yeah, all right,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through TV shows. I watched really quick
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: this one. I didn't watch nearly as many TV shows
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: as I did movies, And that makes sense because TV
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: shows are like one hundred times longer than movies. Yeah.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I watched Goosebumps The Vanishing, which apparently they're canceling that
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: whole series. Oh. I watched Silo season two. I watched
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: all of the seasons of Girls seven in season two,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: White Loadus season three, Animal Control season three. The four
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: seasons was like a one and done four episode thing
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: that with Steve Carell and a bunch of other people.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: That was really good. Ab At Elementary season four, Righteous
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Gemstone season four, Ghosts season four, Black Mirror season seven,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Handmaid's Tale season six, The Bear season four, Squid Game
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: season three, Well Season is It Season two and three.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it was like weirdly broken up in
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: the middle, so whatever was like, yes, good game. I
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: watched yeah, yeah, The Pit That's see Destination X Upload
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: season four, which was really sure, but it was fantastic Shrinking,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: which was both the seasons that that was great, Daredevil
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Born Again, which is really good, the Is It Cake seasons,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: all everything that came out around Is It Cake Stuff, Peacemaker,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: High Potential, the Great British Bake Off, What we Do
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: in the Shadows, the Paper poker Face, all the seasons
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: of that, The Wizards of Baking and Welcome It Welcome
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: to Dairy, and then that had us rewatch the IT movies,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: which was an interesting experience going back to.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure, I just love the world the Stephen
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: King has built, so like I still haven't watched Welcome
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: to Dary, but here it's great.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: It is good. It is interesting to me that some
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: of the cgi that they did, and Welcome to Darry
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: is better than it chapter two, sure, and worse than
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: it chapter one.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but the first IT movie is like Up
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: There with Me is like one of the best horror
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: movies ever. It is so well done start to finish,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: like it is extremely extremely good. Yeah, yeah, it's so good. Okay,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I'm almost done, everybody, thank you for having out. So
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: my long list of movies is going to be Shane's
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: long list of books. I only read nine books this year,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: but I was trying to just fy this with They
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: were much longer on average than the books I read
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: last year. And I am also very close to finishing
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: two more books, very close, like I could finish in
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: this week. Yeah. But I read Bonk by Mary Roach,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Roll by Hugh Howie Whind and Truth by Brandon Sanderson,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: which is like over thirteen hundred pages. Yeah, The Frugal
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Wizard's Handbook for Surviving Medieval England, also by Brandon Sanderson.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Everything is Tuberculosis by John Green You Me and The
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Nightmare by Brandon Sanderson, war Breaker by Brandon Sanderson. I
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: let it read a lot of Sanderson this year. Yeah,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: he did Frankenstein by Mary Shelley and Recursion by Blake Crouch. Yeah.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: That's a good list though, it's quality over quantity, and
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: that's that really matters.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: This was a good year for the books I read.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed these books. All of them would be
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: a strong recommend, particular Recursion, Oh my god, that book
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: was yeah, so good. And then for me, we've never
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: done this before, but like it was funny that I
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: got my like my music rapped for the year. And
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the most listened to album that I listened to this
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: year is You Are Safe from God Here by the
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Acacia Strain and that album came out at the end
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: of October, So for that's my top album of the year.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Is like ridiculous, yeah, and speaks to how much I
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: love it.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a lot of music assumption and a
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: short amount of time.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: That is, so that that would be my album of
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: the year. I guess is you are Safe from God here? Yeah, yeah, understandable.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: All right, that's everything I have to say for my
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: personal stuff. Yeah.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: So on that note, we'll give you a quick break
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: with ads and then I'll get into my quick list
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: of one thousand books. All right, So we are back,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: and here's what I did this year. This was an
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: interesting year for me. I spent most of my year
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: reading and listening to music. That's usually what I do.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I don't watch as many movies, but I do like
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: to go see some movies in theater. Like I saw
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Running Man, which is really great, the Long Walk, which
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: was really good.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I want to see these, all the.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Marvel movies I really enjoyed, Like I really tried to
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: spend some time doing that. I'm starting to rewatch It's
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Always Sunny in Philadelphia, so I'm like in season three
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: of that, which is just you know, the it's just absurdist.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: So it's so absurd, it's so absurd, and it's just
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: it's like it's you just watch it, you go, yeah,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: they can't you can't do that now, Like it's just
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: wild to see some of this stuff, You're like, Ahi,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: there's no way.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: But the big accomplishment for me always is the amount
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: of books I read a year. And this year I
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: read eighty five books as of yesterday. So when we
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: first started putting the notes together, I was at eighty
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: four and I finished the book yesterday, so I'm eighty five.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: That's almost ten times more books than in the last
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: three years put together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's I'm sad.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I love reading too, but you are prolific, my friend.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Well, I just that's what i's that's what I end
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: spending a lot of my free time on. And so
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I read eighty five books totally, about twenty five thousand
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: pages all together if you were to calculate that. And
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: this was the first year I did audiobooks, so while
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I was reading books, I also was listening to audiobooks too.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: So this year I re read the entire Dark Tower
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: series from start to finish, which was just beautiful and amazing.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I read the Gwendy the Gwendy's Button Box series, which
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: is a collaboration between Stephen King and another author, and
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: it is directly related to the Dark Tower, which is
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: really interesting and really great Code Talker, which was one
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: of my favorite books ever. It was about Navajo code
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: talkers during World War Two.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I'm going to read that. That sounds good. Oh my god,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: it was so good.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: The Only Good Indians, which was an indigenous author who
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: writes in the style of Stephen King like supernatural stuff,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: which is really good and has like some cool indigenous
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: traditions in it. I read The Maltese Falcon, which is
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: like one of my favorite books ever because I read
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: it for the first time. It's a clas like like
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: kind of like hard boiled detective novel and it reads
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: like that, like the whole time I couldn't help but
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: like hearing the voices of everybody going like I gotta
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: try to find a statue, Like it's like you couldn't
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: help but read it like that because it's written like that.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Sure, And I started the.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Silo series, so Wool and Shift and now I'm on
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: my way to Dust, which has been really great.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: So we're all on our way to dust. We're all
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: on our way to dust, you know.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: So my top five books of the year would be
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Wool by Hugh Howie, Nice Bonk by Mary Roach, which
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: I loved Misery by Stephen King, which was an incredible read.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Everything is Tuberculosis by John Green, and the book on
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Tyranny Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century by Timothy Snyder.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: That's a nice quick read. It's less than one hundred pages,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: and it was one of those ones I was like, Oh,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: this is just this is what's happening right now, and
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: you should probably read this.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, we have three books overlap there for this year. Yeah,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: isn't that great. Well, I mean with the amount that
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: you read, it is about to happen. But for that
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: making your top five and then me reading three of those,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. Yeah, it's good time. It's a good time.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: So I also consumed in an absert amount of music.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I think my Spotify rap said something like that I
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: listened to ninety thousand minutes of music or something like.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: That, so that was more than mine.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like ninety thousand minutes of music, and it
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: was like six hundred and thirty six genres, like different genres.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I just listened to a lot of music, and so yeah,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I do have my top five records. So if you
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: would like to go listen to these if you are
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: in the punk and hardcore genre of music, there are
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: lots to listen to, and I do have a playlist
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: that I could share, but my top five are Pelicans,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Flickering Residents. I love Pelican if you like good like
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: instrumental music, Press Club to All the Ones that I Love,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: which is in Australian punk band Pool Kids, Easier Said
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: than Done, which is a really great like kind of
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: like pop punky record, End It Wrong Side of Heaven,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: which is just a really fantastic hardcore record, just like
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: a straight up hardcore record, which is fun. And then
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Chap Pile and Hayden Padigo put out a collaborative record
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: called Into the Earth or in the Earth Again, and
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: it's got some really great guitar work on it, and
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: it's got some loudness on it and some quietness on
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: it and some emotion on it, and it's really really good.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: So I really loved, really loved that record.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: You did actually put together a playlist last year, as
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I recall, if you would be willing to share that,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I can put that in the links for this one,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: yeah when we publish it, and then that way, if
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: you're yeah, people can check that out. If they're curious, Yeah,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I'll share. Our listeners wouldn't be into that, but some
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: of them would.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no worries, I'll share it.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I'll share it with you. Say you got it?
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Because I mean if people like to listen to it,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: then then by all means, like I would love for
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: people to give it a listen and give like a
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: listen to all the stuff that I like to listen to.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Too, so sweet.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I always love sharing music. That's my favorite thing. Yeah,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: And then I think that this year I was actually
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: like pretty productive personally, so like some things I want
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: to highlight on my end was that I wrote a
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: series of study work books for behavior analysis called self
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Made Maps.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: There are nine manuals that go along with it, and
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I published that earlier in the year. I finished writing
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: a new book ten minutes before we started this episode today,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: So I finished. So I did that today, which was great.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I released an EP of solo music that I recorded
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: under the name god Man and the EP is called
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: dream Seeker, which I'm really proud of that. And I
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: also released a demo with a band called Cyberbully. The
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: demo is called Welcome to the Internet and it is
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: a joke carcore band that is about being a cyberbully.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: So I got to do those this year, which was cool.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, oh my goodness, very good. Well that's really
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: fun and we are actually going to finish this in
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: a reasonable amount of time. I felt like we went
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: really long last year. Okay, Yeah, so that wraps up.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I think things to talk about as far as sort
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: of what we did and experience personally, and then just
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: sort of reflecting on things as a show. Would continue
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: to have our patrons, most of them that were with
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: us this year have been with us for a while.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: We got one new patron this year, which is really cool.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: So we just really appreciate our patrons. So thank you all.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: You've been wonderful and we look forward to producing more
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: and greater content for you in the year. In the
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, some things to think about as far
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: as next year. We live in a sort of authoritarian
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Nazi regime right now, so there is a non zero
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: chance the government will try to shut us down for
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: criticizing the president being too woke, or citing research on
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: the effectiveness of DEI, or just saying things that are
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: factually true. But we are a very small podcast. We
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: will probably fly into the radar pretty much entirely undetected
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: by the powers that be, so we should be able
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: to keep doing our thing. But there is a risk
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: in a government that is full of censorship and quelling
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: and squashing people's liberties, that freedom of speech will be
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: curtailed and that we might go along with it. So
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: to Brendan Carr and Donald Trump and everyone who is
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: working in the administration, go for yourselves.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, fully, fully for yourselves. So in this next
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: year we may do another suite. Nothing concrete on that yet,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: but we likely will. There's definitely room for a few
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: more nostalgias. We'll probably do those. And this may have
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: been our slowest year for nostalgis ever. Generally speaking. We
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: try to do them to kind of like to like
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: help ease some of the labor on our end too,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: And we didn't do this year. We just worked through it,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: and so we'll probably do a couple more. But we
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: don't have anything planned just yet.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing major, but who knows. Sometimes we just like
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: we we get the creative bug and we do a
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: big thing, or we get super motivated to do something
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: and take on the thing. I actually recently was feeling
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: like I'm probably going to revamp our website. It has
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: been lacking in many ways for some time, and I've
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I was sort of realizing like I kind of getting
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: the motivation to just go in and just do a
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: full revamp start like basically start over. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: we'll see if and when I get to that, But
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: that could come with some pretty significant changes in a
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: variety of ways for things that we do. But we
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: shall see. So that's the thing.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have no plans of stopping, and I think
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: that's the most important thing that everybody needs to know.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: We we refuse to give up.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're going to continue, like we're gonna at
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: least hit ten years, so like we know that we're
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: aiming for that. We would like to hit a thousand episodes.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: That would be very cool too, And I think with
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: the minis now, we're probably gonna get closer to hitting
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: an actual thousand at a much quicker pace. So we're
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: doubling our time now.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: But yeah, we're.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Gonna keep going. We have nothing major planned. We're just
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: gonna kind of go to the flow. We're gonna do
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: this the way that we want to do it. We
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: are going to keep criticizing the people that are and
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: making it harder for other people through public policy and
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: all those things. So we will keep criticizing the government.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: We will keep bringing episodes to you that we hope
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: you like, and we will bring it to you in
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: our voice. So we'll see, we'll see how the next
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: year shakes out.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why I didn't throw RFK Junior
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: under the bus in that one. Who feels like my
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: current life nemesis.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's your arch nemesis, he's our Jordan Peterson.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: He deserves a special go yourself, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: and the worm and the worm just for him. All right,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Even though this is not really a traditional episode, we
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: are going to do a traditional thing, which is we're
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: going to recommend some things, but first we always have
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: to get through the credits, which follow some more ads.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: All right, we're back and we're going to do the
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: credit things and then get to recommendations, which is the
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: If you're joining us for the first time, they'd be
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: very surprising. I don't think we barely have any people
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: listen to the wrap up episodes. But yeah, that's not
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: usually your first, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then anyway, this is
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: the thing we do. We recommend some stuff and I say,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: get through the credits. We get to get through the credits.
• 42:27
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• 42:29
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• 42:31
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• 43:34
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• 43:38
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• 43:51
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• 43:55
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• 43:57
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• 44:02
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• 44:12
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• 44:16
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• 44:19
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• 44:22
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• 44:27
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• 44:32
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• 44:35
  Speaker 1: from Shane and myself. Thank you for recording with me today.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Shane, Hey, thank you. Thank you for a great year.
• 44:40
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• 44:42
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• 44:44
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• 44:46
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• 44:49
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• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I need to get through before we talk about our recommendations. Yeah,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: let's do it all right, very good, Before I actually
• 44:57
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• 45:02
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• 45:44
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• 45:49
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• 45:53
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• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we look like, uh, I don't know Brad Pitton,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know who else is handsome.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know Chris you think is handsome? Chris say?
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Chris Evans and Ryan Gosling, Yeah, they seem wholesome, Like
• 46:13
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• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, now I'm ready to recommend some things. Yay, recommendations.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: I'm recommending a movie. This is the as far as
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I know, this is going to be the last movie
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: in the series. This is the Conjuring Last Rites. So
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: this is I believe, the fourth movie, and this the
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Conjuring universe that are just conjuring. There's actually lots of
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: spinoff movies. You have the Annabel series. I believe the
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: nun is a spinoff. I think there's another one. But anyway,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: so there's lots of movies that exist in sort of
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: the world of the Conjuring. But of the main conj
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: movies that have the Conjuring in the title, this most
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: recent one, the Last Rites, is I believe the last
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: supposed to be the last one in the series. And
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: it didn't get the greatest rating on IMDb. But here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing. I think it's because it's the fourth movie,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: because I was like, this one was, in my opinion,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: about as well done as the first one. Like the
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: first one is my favorite for sure, but like this one.
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  Speaker 1: Actually they had subtlety, they had good pacing, like it
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: was well written. It was like, I think this movie
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: actually worked really well, and I think I thought it
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: was really well done, and like I thought, like the
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: second Conjuring movie was fine, the third Conjuring Moving was fine.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: What happens with sequels as you sort of get into
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: that weird bloat, But like, if you were to just
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: see this without having seen any of the other movies,
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  Speaker 1: I think that you would like like legitimately enjoy it
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  Speaker 1: as a horror movie. I thought it was good. I
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: recommend it, and I think that the what criticism it
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: got was because it's the fourth movie moving a franchise. Sure,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: but yeah, that's my recommendation. Is the Conjuring Last Rites.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I've never seen any of the Conjuring movies,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: so I need to catch up on them. Like I
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: can't believe there's already four of them and I've just
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: missed all of them somehow.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: The first one is so good, it's like was a
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: new way of doing horror movies. But this this one
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: I think was about as well done. Okay, So yeah,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I recommend it. I love it. I love it. I'm
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: gonna recommend a book.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: If you hadn't heard me talking about books too much already,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: I know, weird. I'm recommending a book called Shift by
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Hugh Howie. Now, this is the sequel to Wool, which
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: is part of the Silo series. And so if you
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: have not read Wool, go read Wool before you read Shift.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I think it will make more sense if you do
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: it that way. If you read Shift first, I think
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: it'll be very confusing. Yeah, that would be that would
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: be the rough Yeah, that'd be a real rough read.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: So read Wolf first. But Shift is a great follow up,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: and you know it's it's as somebody who loves the
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Dune series and how like some of the sequels just
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: kind of like run away from your original. I would
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: still say that, like the sequel to Dune, Messiah is
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: very good.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: This is one of those examples of a sequel that
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: does it really well, except it's like a sequel prequel
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: of sorts, Like it kind of like tells a story
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: about how every body got to where they're at now
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: in the Wole series. It's a great read, it's thrilling.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: The chapters are very short, they're only a couple pages long,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: and it kind of jumps through the story really fast.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Like it's still fast paced even if it is about
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: people who are cry genetically frozen. So super super interesting,
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: super great read. Love the world building of this, and
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to read the third book in the series.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it. I'm almost done
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: with Shift. I'm sure you'll finish Dust before I started.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: But yeah, very very good books, and Wall was absolutely fantastic.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: So yeah, the whole the whole series so far I've
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: been really impressed with. And yeah, I'm really glad that
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: we've gone around to it. So great recommendation. Yeah, for sure,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: for sure. All right, I think that's what we have
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: to say. I think we're done for twenty twenty five.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: We will see you all in twenty six. Thank you
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: all for listening. And as I've said like six times now,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I think we're about ready to wrap this one up.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: That's it. That feels good. All right, Well, twenty twenty
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: five is coming to a close. Yep, this is Abraham.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: That's a shame. We're out. Seeya and happy New Year,
• 50:13
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