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Best of Chuck & Buck 11-14 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome in. It is a football Friday. We
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  Speaker 1: Buck in the Morning, Sports Radio ninety three point three
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  Speaker 1: So it's a little dangerous out there.
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  Speaker 5: And it's not even just on the freeway, by the way,
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  Speaker 5: because my whole car got covered in water from on mercer,
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  Speaker 5: like a car went through a black puddle in an.
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  Speaker 3: Intersection and just spread. I was like, I can't see
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  Speaker 1: I can't see a thing.
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  Speaker 3: A thing. It's like I was driving underwater.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley with her brand new Mazda Submarine.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's a it's anything. That's one thing I
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  Speaker 5: haven't told people because.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, technology. Gosh, it's like you've been sitting on
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  Speaker 1: Uh. Anyway, a little bit dangerous out there on the road,
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  Speaker 1: so do be careful. Don't get so distracted by being
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  Speaker 1: see the black puddles all over the roadways. But we
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  Speaker 1: made it in. I wasn't sure Ashley was going to
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  Speaker 1: make it in on time. I told Buckets, I don't
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know if I was going to either.
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  Speaker 5: It was and in the like everybody on the freeway
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  Speaker 5: was going real slow at least, thank goodness.
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  Speaker 3: But as I said then, I was.
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  Speaker 5: Like, oh, especially because I come the express lanes. Well,
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  Speaker 5: there's a fun little thing that happens when you're on
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  Speaker 5: the express lanes and you go under the rest of
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  Speaker 5: I five, all their water it's down onto the express lanes.
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  Speaker 3: That's super fun.
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  Speaker 1: It's called a waterfall. Yeah, some people drive from miles
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, beautiful, beautiful stuff. You just don't want it
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  Speaker 1: while you're driving. No, all right, well, welcome into the show.
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  Speaker 1: We got a lot to discuss today. It is a
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of football to discuss today, and we've
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of smart people to discuss it with us.
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  Speaker 1: So I can promise you over our course of our
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  Speaker 1: four hours, we got you a Seahawks RAMS preview. We
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  Speaker 1: got that down on lock. But we're going to start
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  Speaker 1: with baseball today because we were dealt the disappointing news
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  Speaker 1: last night that the nation didn't recognize what we knew,
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  Speaker 1: and that is that Kyle Raley is the most valuable player,
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  Speaker 1: or was the most valuable player this year in the
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  Speaker 1: American League. And it was close. He got forty three
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  Speaker 1: I think I said thirty nine, forty three percent of
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  Speaker 1: the first place votes, but that wasn't enough. He and
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  Speaker 1: Judge got either first or second on all thirty ballots.
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  Speaker 1: But Aaron Judge does, in fact win the American League
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  Speaker 1: MVP in twenty twenty five. Yeah, they got that wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I think they got it wrong too. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: mean I said this at the beginning of the playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: and it sounds like an odd thing to say, but
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  Speaker 1: I said, when Dan Wilson was trying to make his
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  Speaker 1: decision on who he's going to start number one starter,
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  Speaker 1: I like, there's not a bad decision, but there is
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  Speaker 1: a wrong decision. And I know that sounds weird, but
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  Speaker 1: now I get to use it again. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: there was a bad decision to make between Judge and Raleigh,
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  Speaker 1: but I think there is a distinct wrong decision to make,
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  Speaker 1: and seventeen people out of thirty made the wrong decision. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's unfortunate.
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  Speaker 4: I mean that really.
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  Speaker 7: I mean it's like three people had a better idea.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I'm with you. It's not wrong decision. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: it's not like Aaron Judge didn't isn't deserving of an MVP.
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  Speaker 7: It's just when you're measuring the two I don't think
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  Speaker 7: it's I don't think it's particularly close. We did discuss that,
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  Speaker 7: and it just as Cal rowly what he did. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: Aaron Judge even said in his acceptance actually as before
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  Speaker 7: they announced it, they were asking him what's it like
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  Speaker 7: to be the captain and all the pressure of playing,
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  Speaker 7: you know, in New York and wearing the pinstripes. And
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  Speaker 7: he's like, yeah, there's a lot, you know, but it's
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  Speaker 7: what I.
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  Speaker 1: Want to do. I like. I like the limelight.
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  Speaker 7: I like thee When I was a free agent, I
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  Speaker 7: wanted to come back and play here. It's and then
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  Speaker 7: he goes, it's not like what Cal does you know?
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  Speaker 7: Catching all that and the abuse that he takes, and
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  Speaker 7: I mean even he basically kind of says, yeah, I
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  Speaker 7: don't do near as much as that guy does. Now
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  Speaker 7: obviously he's not going to turn it in or say, hey, Cal,
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  Speaker 7: you deserve this. I mean, I know I had a
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  Speaker 7: way better offensive season than you, but you did, you
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  Speaker 7: did way more. But to me, that's where I don't
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  Speaker 7: know if somewhere in the translation the most valuable is
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  Speaker 7: is different than the most outstanding, or how if there's
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  Speaker 7: more weight put into the overarching offensive, you know, prowess
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  Speaker 7: that goes into it, and not enough rewarded or awarded
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  Speaker 7: to the defensive acumen that somebody brings to the table.
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  Speaker 7: But yeah, I think they got it wrong. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: it's a bummer because Aaron Judge is a generational hitter,
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  Speaker 7: without a doubt him, He's a generational player. He's pretty
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  Speaker 7: damn good in the outfield too. Really, he was most
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  Speaker 7: certainly before he started getting hurt a couple for the
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  Speaker 7: last couple of years. But I mean, he's a generational player.
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  Speaker 7: And this is Cal's career year. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 7: expect him to go out and hit sixty. I expect
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  Speaker 7: him probably maybe forty might be the ceiling or the
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  Speaker 7: floor of what his career home run numbers are going
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  Speaker 7: to be.
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  Speaker 1: But he's not ever going.
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  Speaker 7: To hit three forty and hit sixty home runs and
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  Speaker 7: be up there probably in this where is Aaron Judge?
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  Speaker 7: This is probably who we're going to see for the
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  Speaker 7: you know, the foreseeable futures. Is a dude that just
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  Speaker 7: hits over three hundred and hits fifty plus homers and
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  Speaker 7: probably is an MVP candidate every year.
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  Speaker 1: I don't but I don't want Cal to win it.
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  Speaker 1: Because of that, I don't want I mean, it was
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  Speaker 1: it's the old Michael Jordan debate, like, oh boy, Michael's
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  Speaker 1: probably gonna win it next year, So Charles isn't going
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  Speaker 1: to have a better season than this, Let's give it
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  Speaker 1: to Barkley. I don't want Cal to win it that way.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want like special consideration to be given to
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  Speaker 1: cal because he might not have another career year like this,
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  Speaker 1: but Judge probably will. But just standing on its merits alone,
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  Speaker 1: I mean every I mean it was, it was a
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  Speaker 1: razor close evaluation from most people. And I think that
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  Speaker 1: certainly the vote came down that way. And I do
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  Speaker 1: think and this is something that you and I have
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  Speaker 1: disagreed upon. I do think that everybody who vote for
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  Speaker 1: that voted for this, even the ones that voted for Judge,
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  Speaker 1: recognize how much more is on cal Raley's plate. It's
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  Speaker 1: just how much value do you give that? Ye does
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  Speaker 1: it make up for the gap and the overall offensive
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  Speaker 1: numbers that Judge put up versus Cal. I mean we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about two hundred ops points. I mean, that's the
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  Speaker 1: difference between you know, Julio and Miles Master Bony. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's what we're talking about here, like two
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  Speaker 1: hundred w excuse me, an ops plus of like sixty
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  Speaker 1: points difference. I mean it was a sizeable gap. Offensively,
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  Speaker 1: the three of us and thirteen out of thirty voters,
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  Speaker 1: and god knows how many other people, not just in
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  Speaker 1: Seattle but nationwide think that what Cal brought to the
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  Speaker 1: table does not only bridge that gap, but overtakes that gap.
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  Speaker 1: And part of that is because Judge spent so much
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  Speaker 1: time just hitting this year. Cal would have won head
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  Speaker 1: to head against show Hey this year if it would
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  Speaker 1: have been Cal versus show Hey, Cal would have won
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  Speaker 1: the MVP and show A won unanimously. On the national
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  Speaker 1: league side, because the gap between show A's numbers and
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  Speaker 1: Cows weren't nearly as great as what the gap between
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  Speaker 1: Judges numbers were and Cow's. So yes, I think they
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  Speaker 1: missed it. I think that Cal and everything actually that
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  Speaker 1: he does bring to the table does make up for
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  Speaker 1: that difference. But there were enough people that voted, and
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't East Coast bias because apparently the East Coast
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  Speaker 1: was the only place, but there wasn't bias.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and seven votes for each guy.
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  Speaker 1: But there were enough people who cover this sport for
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  Speaker 1: a living. That decided we think that the offensive gap
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  Speaker 1: is more impressive than the defensive gap and the intangibles gap.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's what it came down to. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's right, but I at least can buy
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  Speaker 1: that Aaron Judge had an MVP season this year.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think you know, we have all agreed
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  Speaker 5: that they're both excellent candidates. Nothing should be taking away
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  Speaker 5: from Aaron Judge. The interesting thing though, is when you
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  Speaker 5: think about, like, well, okay, so what is the MVP.
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  Speaker 5: What is it supposed to be? Right, it's your most
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  Speaker 5: valuable player? Now is that your most valuable player to
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  Speaker 5: their team? Because Cal was the most valuable player to.
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  Speaker 3: His team, Well so it was Judge.
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  Speaker 5: No, but yes, But I'm saying I think that Cal
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  Speaker 5: was more valuable to the Mariners than Judge was to
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  Speaker 5: the Yankees for everything that he does top to bottom.
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  Speaker 3: Now you could look at it.
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  Speaker 5: Who was the most valuable person to the league, who
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  Speaker 5: had the stories being written about them every single day
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  Speaker 5: because they were breaking records week after week.
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  Speaker 3: Cal Rawley.
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  Speaker 5: So I would say in both those situations, he was
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  Speaker 5: the more valuable player.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think it is supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: who's the most valuable player to your team. I think
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  Speaker 1: that that is the decision that they are trying to make.
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  Speaker 1: There was just you know, there were just more people
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  Speaker 1: out of thirty that voted that Aaron Judge was more
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  Speaker 1: valuable to the Yankees than what Cal Rawley was to
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners.
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  Speaker 3: We disagree with it, Yeah, that's the part I can't
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  Speaker 3: figure out.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe we would feel differently if we watched Judge
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  Speaker 1: play every day and followed up. I mean, one of
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  Speaker 1: the things that Sean Casey had said when he was
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  Speaker 1: interviewing Aaron Judge was or evaluating Aaron Judge like, people
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  Speaker 1: don't understand what a great human being this guy is,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, no better than our guy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah right, and it better than a humanitarian award either.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah true. But I mean, but also on
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  Speaker 1: the flipside, we pour into so much about how how Cal,
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  Speaker 1: what a leader he is, what a captain he is,
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  Speaker 1: and all a Judge fulfills that exact same role and
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  Speaker 1: does it with just as much dignity and just as
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  Speaker 1: much class as what Cal does. Absolutely, so, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was just two phenomenal candidates, and I really do
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  Speaker 1: think that if it was Cal versus Show, Hey, Cal
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  Speaker 1: would be Cal would have walked away with the award. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: Judges numbers offensively across the board. I mean, he hit
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  Speaker 1: three thirty. Guys aren't even hitting three hundred. Now, that's
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  Speaker 1: three thirty while getting pitched around more than any batter
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  Speaker 1: in all of Major League Baseball. So there's no doubt
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Judge had an MVP season, But so did Cal.
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  Speaker 1: Only one gets to win it, and unfortunately, I think
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  Speaker 1: they got it wrong. Yeah, I think they got it
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  Speaker 1: wrong too.
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  Speaker 7: I mean it's the I get the idea that how well,
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  Speaker 7: it's not the idea the fact that Judges numbers offensively
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  Speaker 7: were just supreme. They were They were head and shoulders
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  Speaker 7: above Col's. And that's crazy because Cow hit sixty homers. No,
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  Speaker 7: but again, it's not like he hit twenty eight homers
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  Speaker 7: and hit three forty and.
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  Speaker 1: You know, more home runs and RBI.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's but I mean it's he didn't.
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  Speaker 7: It wasn't by a ton, and yet the batting average
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  Speaker 7: and on base percentage and walks and all of the
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  Speaker 7: stuff that equate to that ops being substantially bigger. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: Judge was without a doubt better offensively, and yet it
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  Speaker 7: to me, it it just shows that, Yeah, well the people,
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  Speaker 7: the thirty people, and I don't understand how it's just thirty.
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  Speaker 1: People the one it's one per market.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just saying I don't ever want anything of
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  Speaker 7: substance being decided by thirty people. And so of the
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  Speaker 7: thirty people, you know, they all agreed that it's definitely
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  Speaker 7: was between Judge and cal There was no discrepancy on that,
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  Speaker 7: so they weren't far off. It's just that, basically, I
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  Speaker 7: think seventeen of them don't understand the difference between defensively.
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  Speaker 7: They don't put the same amount of weight on that
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  Speaker 7: versus the two hundred points in ops. I of course
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  Speaker 7: that they recognize, Wow, catching is far dough tougher than
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  Speaker 7: playing right field and dhing some right, they obviously understand it,
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  Speaker 7: and they weigh that. I just don't think they put
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  Speaker 7: enough weight into it. That's why I think it's wrong.
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  Speaker 7: That's why I've been saying the whole time. I don't
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  Speaker 7: think it should be particularly close. I thought it was
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  Speaker 7: going to be close. I was right there with you,
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  Speaker 7: kind of thinking I wouldn't be surprised if they go
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  Speaker 7: with Aaron Judge because of the eye popping thing that
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  Speaker 7: just is you can't you don't have to be that knowledgeable.
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  Speaker 7: You don't have to be the most knowledgeable to be
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  Speaker 7: able to recognize that offensive year that Judge did is
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  Speaker 7: outste It's so outstanding that it makes it dwarfs the
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  Speaker 7: outstanding offensive season that Cal had. Now Col's I think
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  Speaker 7: is just has there's different stuff to it. And this
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  Speaker 7: is where if I do have bias, that it'll go
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  Speaker 7: into it where it's I have a hard time not
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  Speaker 7: adding extra weight to the fact that it's switch hitting
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  Speaker 7: and that it's you know, twenty homers for the first
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  Speaker 7: time ever from each side of the plate that anybody's
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  Speaker 7: ever done, and the people's names that he broke for
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  Speaker 7: switch hitting home runs and for catching home runs. And
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  Speaker 7: that's where it's like, Okay, now, I know that I'm
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  Speaker 7: kind of grasping its straws to some degree to give
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  Speaker 7: more credence and more credit to it. But really just
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  Speaker 7: the bottom line, without the bias involved in the fact
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  Speaker 7: that I like him, and I actually like Aaron Judge too,
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  Speaker 7: it just boils down to I just I just think that,
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  Speaker 7: plain and simple, the entirety of his work was far
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  Speaker 7: more valuable than the entirety of Aaron Judge's work. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: if it's you want to say, forty more hits, Okay,
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  Speaker 7: that's once every four days he got an extra hit,
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  Speaker 7: then cal that's that's not drastic to me. Now, over
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  Speaker 7: the course of the full season, obviously it turns into
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  Speaker 7: higher numbers and better numbers. And yet there's just so
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  Speaker 7: many seventeen thousand pitches Calcott, and I mean it's like
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  Speaker 7: there's just there's just something about it that just is
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  Speaker 7: it rubs me the wrong way. And I just think
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  Speaker 7: that there's something missed by those that are voting. And
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  Speaker 7: I just wish three others, three others would have went
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  Speaker 7: the other way.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was closed. I don't think though, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that this is a sports writer thing. I
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  Speaker 1: think that former baseball players, I mean, we might have
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  Speaker 1: had the exact same result. I mean, I've logged a
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  Speaker 1: lot of hours watching MLB Network, and I told you
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  Speaker 1: closer we were getting to this thing. The more that
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  Speaker 1: those former players were talking about Aaron Judge, I think that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think this is baseball writers don't
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  Speaker 1: recognize the significance. They do. But I do think that
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  Speaker 1: baseball players might have come up with the exact same
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  Speaker 1: result that what we have because.
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  Speaker 5: It current players voted him the most outstanding player of
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  Speaker 5: the Yeah.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: But okay, but that process, well then if that's what
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: then celebrated, Yeah, I mean, if that process, I don't
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: even know what the rules are behind that process because
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: it's not even recognized as a legitimate award.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't get it.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: So I don't even know what that process is. I mean,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: it could have been just like ballots were left out
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: someday and some guys filled it out, some guys didn't.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. This has been a calculated process
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: that they've been doing for a number of years. So,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, so I don't know if you just isolated
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: one player from every single team like they do in
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: this process, if we would have had the exact same
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: result with Aaron Judge. I can just tell you. Listening
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: to former players on MLB Network, they were leaning toward
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Judge too. I mean, and those are guys that certainly
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: played the game recognized the value of cal Raley and
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: what their what their repeated message was was, don't get
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: numb to how amazing Aaron Judge is, just because you've
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: seen him put together a season like this before. That
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: was their repeated message. We disagree with it, but I
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: don't know if it was. If they actually had the
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: same funneling process and you used players or former players
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: or managers, if we would have ended up with a different.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Result, would be interesting. Yeah, I would, Yeah, it would
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: be an interesting experiment.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I'd like to know, But I'm not sure that we would.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I mean maybe we would. All right, let's find out
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: what's on tap for the show today? What's on TEP?
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: What's untep? All right, Aaron Judge edges cow for al MVP.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: We'll talk more about it in the Friday O Show
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Today show. A one is fourth MVP on the National
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: League side of second in the National League and very funny.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: He kissed his dog. That was his celebration. If hugged
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: them both, it might be like good jap And you
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: don't do that in public. I don't know. Is that
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: like a Japanese thing? You don't show affection on television.
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: I mean there is some differences in how they show affection.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I will say that. And now that the award shows
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: are over, because there was an award show afterwards, And
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: by the way, Cal and Julio were named All MLB
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: this year first Team and that award show, and then
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Wu and Munjos were named the second team, so congratulations
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: to them. That's not something that gets talked about a lot.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: We always talk about the All Pro Team at the
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: end of the NFL season, But I don't know if
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't even remember them doing this.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Well, we probably don't very often have a Mariner on it,
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: so maybe we don't have a reason to talk about it.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I think it is new. I don't think it's brand new.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I think they've done it before. But I do think
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: like the award ceremony and all of that stuff might
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: be new. I could be wrong about that. But now
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the Stove offseason does officially begin, and the first episode
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: of Stove Anders and I recorded yesterday. It is available
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: on our website. I can't find it either. I don't
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: know how to find things.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I'll grab the link and tweeted out.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: But I do know that Anders and I tweeted it
• 20:09
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• 20:14
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• 20:16
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• 20:18
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• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Jordan Eberle scored twice in the third period, so he
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: goes so the crack and take it. Finally, a little
• 20:29
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• 20:32
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• 20:36
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• 20:40
  Speaker 1: No, that's a great song. Tomorrow at seven o'clock?
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: Is that?
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Is that game? College basketball? Tonight? It will be U
• 20:46
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• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Apple Cup on the hardwood and the Husky's taking on
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the Koogs. Also, the Zags in action tonight. An interesting
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: game for them. They're at Arizona State. It's football, you
• 21:00
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• 21:04
  Speaker 1: from Rick new Isil on this game in case you
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: missed it. Also Thursday Night football the New England Patriots.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I knew I should have taken the under damn it.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Twenty seven to fourteen. I'm gonna lose that Penn State
• 21:15
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• 21:16
  Speaker 4: I am.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Twenty seven to fourteen. The final score of the Patriots
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: over the Jets last night to start week number eleven
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: of the National Football League season, and we will play
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: some more Factor fiction today at seven thirty five Ashley's
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: pick today, but most of the show will be about tomorrow,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: excuse me, Sunday's game between the Seahawks and the Rams.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell at seven oh five, Hugh Millen X's and
• 21:39
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• 21:43
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• 21:46
  Speaker 1: at stake for Sam Darnold in tomorrow's game? Interesting stupid question,
• 21:53
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• 22:02
  Speaker 8: Let's win to the front of the net.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Close Winterton shot, put it over. Out's oving it back
• 22:12
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• 22:23
  Speaker 9: Helly Toleran with a rocket from the right side.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: It's a power play goal. We're tied at three. Man
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: even ears back to Marshman in the circle. What's a
• 22:34
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• 22:39
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• 22:48
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• 22:53
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• 22:54
  Speaker 10: By a four to three store four to three Seattle
• 22:57
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  Speaker 6: They'll push it.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Up the boards.
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  Speaker 9: What a beck not a little hole blide not even
• 23:04
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• 23:16
  Speaker 8: Back to back goals for.
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: The captain, he's got two.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: The Crackhead ahead by two. Two goals for Everley, a
• 23:26
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• 23:29
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• 23:34
  Speaker 1: the basket and they defeat the Winnipeg Jets last night
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: five to three. So at least they I mean, they won.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: They didn't have to play overtime to do it. That's nice.
• 23:44
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• 23:47
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• 24:14
  Speaker 1: five to three final last night, the crack and winning,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: and now they get ready to face baby Sharks.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Did it?
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Baby Sharks? The baby face Sharks. We'll be in town
• 24:25
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• 24:28
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• 24:32
  Speaker 1: a lot to say. Uh, and let's get it going
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: with baseball here. Eric Judge earns the excuse me, edges
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Cal for the AL MVP. Yeah, he earned an MVP,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: but not more than our guy. We're all very disappointed,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Bucky perhaps most of all, even though it is a
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: tight race and so Cal Rawley just fell a little
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: bit short. Judge got seventeen of the thirty first place votes.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Both Judge and Cal got all of the first or
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: second place votes, and it's Aaron Judge who wins the
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: AL MVP, his third of his career. Shoe Aotani won
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: his fourth MVP in his career on the national league side,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and celebrated by kissing his dog and not his wife.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: There you go. College basketball UDUB and Washington State play
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: tonight at eight o'clock in Pullman. The Zags are also
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: in action. They'll be taking on Arizona State that will
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: also tip off at eight o'clock. College football, you dub
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: host Purdue tomorrow at four honks, get it started at noon,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: and plenty of other college football action that we'll outline
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: for you in the OHO at eight o'clock Thursday Night Football.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: The Jets lost to the New England Patriots last night
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: twenty seven to fourteen, and the Seahawks, of course, will
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: be in action against the Rams this Sunday at one.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: It's time to talk to Greg Bell. All right, Happy
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Friday to you. So here we go, Here we go.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is the game that you've sort of
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: had circled the entire off season, maybe since the schedule
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: came out. We talked about in the preseason. You've been
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: telling us that it won't matter until this team squares
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: off against the Rams. That's when we'll know how good
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: they are. So obviously you're putting this game in the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: area of very critical importance here on Sunday.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: It's a barometer game, a measuring stick.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Again.
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: They hired Mike McDonald to win this game, to beat
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: the forty nine.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Ers in the Rams.
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: They narrowly lost in Week one to the forty nine ers,
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: and they get them again.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: Week eighteen in the season.
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: They've yet to play the Rams this year. We all
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: know the combined Seattle seven to two, the combined records
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: of those seven wins, the teams they've beaten seven, the
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: seven victories, twenty two wins and thirty four losses. So
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: they haven't done anything yet. Because they they've done things.
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: Of course, they get themselves in position to be here,
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: but they're not going to win the division till they
• 26:57
  Speaker 8: beat the Rams in forty nine ers. Hugh mentioned something
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: yesterday that I had remembered i'd written last year, and
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: then I've kind of forgotten about that game.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Let's throw out the.
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: JV game, as he put it in to end the
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: regular season in Englewood last year, because the Rams had
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: everything clinched and rested all their starters. Stafford didn't play Gino.
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: Smith just was throwing for his incentive bonuses.
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: It was throw a game.
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: The game in Seattle in November early December, late November.
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: In the overtime game, McVeigh and Stafford got just thirteen
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: points on McDonald's offense in regulation and If Smith doesn't
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: throw the one hundred and five yard interception return touchdown
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: on the red zone, the Seahawks probably win that game
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: with the Rams only scoring thirteen points. So McDonald has
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: had a leg up on McVeigh in their one head
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: to head meeting. That game was more indicative as to
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: why they hired McDonald. Can he do it again? That's
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: the question. Stafford comes into the game being the first
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: quarterback I found this kind of rising. Actually this hadn't
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: happened before. He's the first quarterback in NFL history to
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: have four more touchdown passes with no interceptions in three
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: consecutive games. It's three in a row in counting coming
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: into this game on Sunday. So can McDonald in the
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: defense now that it's becoming almost hole again with everybody
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: but Julian love back healthy. Can they do what they
• 28:18
  Speaker 8: did in Lumenfield last November to the Rams again? That's
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: the question whether they'll be in first place Sunday night
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: or not.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I'm with you.
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: I think the other side of that coin, obviously is
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: very intriguing as well, is what can what can Sam
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: donald and company do against that Rams defense?
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: And so just quickly, I mean I suppose health wise,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: where are we at?
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: I saw Gray's Abel was on the injury list or
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: you know, on the injury list a report if he's
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: not in the are you looking at what Cable do
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: and OLU with Timmy and Anthony Bradford up the middle.
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: Let's just he's going to play. I sign my practice yesterday.
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: Oh Timmy's gonna play, yes, but no, Gray's Abel's gonna play.
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: I saw him a practice yesterday.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: He looked like he was normal.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Good to go.
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: List him as a heel. But he was a limited participant.
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: That doesn't mean he hasn't been in the game plans,
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: the meetings, and in fact on the field practicing with
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: the starters this week, this time of year. The injury report,
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: people just see names on it. There Oh, no crazy
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: abels on it. One, if they're limited participant, it means
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: they took at least one portion of their normal reps off.
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: That could be a series. It's very there's a wide
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: range of what limited means. Two, it's late mid late
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: November and he's already played nine games. They're resting, they're
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: preserving themselves for Sunday. The injury reports, especially with limited
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: participation aren't very always very indicative of who's going to
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: play on Sunday. Zabel's been a revelation he really has.
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: There's a video out there on the internet him miked
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: up as they call it, with Kalis Campbell during the
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: Cardinals game, and he's just trash talking a future Hall
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: of Fame pass rusher and the guy's like, I have
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: one hundred and fifteen man, and he he's goes, well,
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: he ain't getting one hundred and.
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: Sixteen on me, and he didn't.
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: And he still has yet this season to give up
• 30:15
  Speaker 8: a sack, a rookie starting right away, his boys, his
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: trash talk, which I've written about at the News Tribute
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: as well disabled something else. That guy as tough as
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: they came on that team. I mean Midwest, Hardy Stock,
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: Upper Northwest. He's playing. Ernest Jones also limited participant.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: He's playing.
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: Tory Horton was the guy who had practiced on Wednesday,
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: who didn't practice yesterday, took a step back in his
• 30:41
  Speaker 8: leg shin injury. Josh Jones was the most telling thing
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: to me that he was back full go yesterday. Now
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: this is the point in the concussion protocol that Rake
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: Wollen a couple of weeks ago, took a step back.
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: He had practiced on Wednesday Wool and had Thursday. He
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: tried to come back and duplicate that, couldn't and then
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: he missed the game opposite with Job Job practice Now
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: two days in a round on the second day full,
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: it's all signs are Josh Job's going to play as well?
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Well, I was going to ask about that because the
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: ripple effect of that I just did. I just did
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: a no cliche key to victory talking about how Rake
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Woolan might be the key because I was assuming Jackson
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Job was not going to or Job wasn't going to
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: be playing in this game. But now the ripple effect
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: if he does play, what does that do to wooland
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: what does that do to Pritchett.
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: Well, I would think Pritchett is the guy who slides
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: back down out of the rotation. I would also think
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: it might mean they may do more dime and they'll
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: keep wooling in and they'll do six defensive backs. We've
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: talked a lot about Dame with McDonald this week. He
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: hasn't been doing it as much until recently when they
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: got all the guys, but he didn't have six defensive
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: backs he felt was worth we're worth playing. At the
• 31:52
  Speaker 8: same time, well, now he's starting to get him all back,
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: and the way Tyo Cotta is playing, he's not quite
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: been a one for one swap of love. But you
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: the safety in the back is not quite as anything
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: to do with Nickel and Dime. You're talking about your
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: inside slock cornerbacks. I would think, even though Pritchett had
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: them remarkable play. I wrote about that at the News
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: Tribute this morning about Pritchett's breakup in the end zone.
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: Pass pack up in the end zone had Leslie Fraser
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: going nuts about it. I think he's gonna move out
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: and Woolan becomes what whether what Neamia Pritchett was last week.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: I would think.
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: I've been telling you they love Joe and they're not
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: about to bench him just because Woolan's had a couple
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: of good games and Pritchett had a great pass breakup.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: I'd expect Josh job will be starting on Sunday.
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: Well, how do you envision the front seven holding up
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: against their Rams? I mean they run the ball. These
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: two teams are very similar, at least in nine games
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: into the season and and so you got they got
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: a couple guys, depending on the health of Devanta Adams
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: that you got to stop with your your dbs. But
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: the upfront you, I mean, you obviously are not going
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: to want to let Williams and company run all over
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: me either.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: So what's their plan of attack to shut that down?
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: Well, let's update the listeners. DeVante Adams did practice yesterday
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: on a limited basis. He had the oblique issue that
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: he did not practice Wednesday. So a guy did not
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: practice Wednesday, practice limited on Thursday. Trending toward playing, Adams
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: leads the NFL and nine with nine touchdown receptions so
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: far this season. Kyen Williams still the guy. I mean,
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: he's averaging five and a half yards of carry. I'm
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: telling you McVeigh gets all the attention for throwing. It
• 33:29
  Speaker 8: starts with the run, and when this rams played the Seahawks,
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: it starts with running backs and tight ends, screen pass
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: dump offs, quick horizonal across the field, horizontal stuff.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: Kyen Williams and Tyler Higbe are.
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: As big as this to me as DeVante Adams and
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: Puku Nakua. Because of the way that the Seahawks have
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: habitually been attacked on defense, and they've got Chenn and
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: Wos who now back full time playing run and pass
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: downs the markets long his back healthy. Leonard Williams is
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: having another Pro Bowl caliber season, and Byron Murphy has
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: been the breakout on that front seven with the sacks
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: and playing every more. As we said, had to play
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: more than fifty percent of the snaps that he barely
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: played last season, and he has. They to me, are
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: more equipped than they were this time last season. Murphy
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: is progress being foremost in that they're more equipped in
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: the front. Can they pressure Stafford? Stafford gets the ball
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: out Alter quick. He's like Aaron Rodgers, but better, and
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: he gets the ball so quickly he's strolling. Just two
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: interceptions this season. It's really tough to get to him.
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: The Can they at least get to Can they cover
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: sticky enough in the back that the front can get
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: to the pass rush put to the passer, And that's
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: what's happened so far this season. If McDonald can get
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: away with not blitzing, the Seahawks are in catbird seat defensively.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: In this game.
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: I think he's going to blitz more than he normally
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: does because he's got even Worry and Witherspoon both at
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: his disposed in sub packages. I expect a lot of
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: Dikel and Diamond, a lot of blitzz out of it
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: with those two guys.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Craig Bells with us are Seahawks Insider. You can follow
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: on that to g bel Seattle there on X and
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: of course the Newstribune dot com, where he provides a
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: complete and excellent coverage of the Seahawks all year long.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: He's ours to interview most every day throughout the football
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: season here at seven five. You know, obviously, when you
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: face an NFL team, there's a very good chance you're
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: going to face somebody that used to be on your team,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: and so certainly some trade secrets are going to be exchanged.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't seem that NFL teams, you know, stay
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: awake at night worrying about that. That said, when you
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: have two players as good and cerebral and as involved
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: in active as Cooper Cup and Ernest Jones on this
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: team that played so recently against the Rams, what kind
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: of advantage, if any, could that possibly give the Seahawks
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: on Sunday, probably.
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: In a thirty thousand foot global view, it helps but McVeigh,
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: those guys, they change from week to week, year to year.
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: They put a bunch of stuff in the training camp
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: that they haven't shown yet. All teams do. The Seahawks
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: have not shown a decent amount of their offensive defensive
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: playbooks yet. The Rams are going to see stuff on
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: Sunday they haven't seen yet. Cup and Jones are going
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: to see stuff from McVeigh that they haven't seen yet either.
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: So it's almost a wash. I want to say it's
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: almost psychological, but it's more than that. But Cup is
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: in particular sticking his head in the head coach's office
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: and saying, Hey, I know the Rams like to do
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: this on third down and when they're at this part
• 36:41
  Speaker 8: of the field is written mcveigh's tendancies are Chances are McDonald.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: Knows most of that already.
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: The guy's a football nerd who just sits and just
• 36:49
  Speaker 8: loves that stuff. And we've asked him a couple times
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: this week McDonald about facing McVay, and of course he said, Wow,
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: that's my job is to have this team.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Ready to play every week. Doesn't matter who the opponent is.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: I gotta have it. Coaches and players, this.
• 37:04
  Speaker 8: Matters to him, I know, as in the weeds as
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: he is about schematics and about being cutting edge and
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: innovative and one step ahead of the offensive guy. This
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: is the standard Kyle Shanahan and McVeigh. But McVeigh most
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: recently has the Super Bowl ring. This is the standard again,
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: this is why the Seahawks hired him to beat this
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: guy this week. Means it's way more to him than
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: he will ever let on. And then that's the intriguing
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: game within the game we've been talking about all week.
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: It's it's fascinating, it really is. Yeah, it's kind of crazy.
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: This game is a one oh five regional Fox prodcast
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: with the number two team. This should be primetime best
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: game of the weekend. This is this is really good stuff.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: That's good. I mean, Kan City Denver is a great game,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: but this one takes the cake right here. All right,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: So what's your key to the victory? How's it going
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: to go down on Sunday?
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: Well, I'm just writing that story for thenewstribute dot com
• 37:59
  Speaker 8: this morning.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Sam Darnald is he human in that? Is he really?
• 38:05
  Speaker 8: Is he going to come out and say I need
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: to prove myself to myself against this team that just
• 38:10
  Speaker 8: bludgeon me to end my Vikings tenure last January.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: It's only been ten months. The last time he's been
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: on that field.
• 38:16
  Speaker 8: He got stucked nine times and was just a hot
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: mess and the Vikings went from fourteen to two to
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: out of the playoffs in one night.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: Is donald truly what he says and what he's shown
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: so far?
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: This poised, unflappable and every game is saying nothing fazes
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: me guy, or is he going to be a little
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: extra and forcing things a little bit.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: More to show these guys don't have me.
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: He's got to play within himself and not force things.
• 38:45
  Speaker 8: He's got to get rid of the ball and be
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: willing to just throw the chuck the ball out of
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: bounds when he's getting pressured if they get to him.
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: The rams are susceptible in the secondary. When you talk
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: to the LA people down there, Yeah, we've had a
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: great scene, but man, are past defense. If we don't
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: get to the quarterback. We've had a hard time covering.
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: And you look at the numbers there.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: I think it's eighteenth in the league and pass defense.
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: If the Seahawks with Gray's Abel and friends can keep
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: mc donald from being rushed and being pressured into making
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: choices before he wants to. The Seahawks have big plays
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: coming in this Ram secondary and I'm talking the debut
• 39:24
  Speaker 8: of number twenty two. I know he played last week,
• 39:27
  Speaker 8: but Rashid Shaheed to me is an untalked about heat
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: of this game. They're gonna send Shaheed deep center post
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: routes and go routes to see if the Rams will
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: bite or if they're going to really keep their safety
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: over the top against Smith and Jig. But if they do,
• 39:43
  Speaker 8: look for Shaheed to have a one hundred yard receiving game.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: If they do go back to shading for the deep.
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: Post and guarding against Shaheed speed, look for Smith and Jig.
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: But to have one hundred yard receiving game, that to
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: me is another game within the game. It's really intriguing
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: to me. But the OLDW with Timmy thing at center,
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: big deal. The Rams are gonna send a lot of
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: a gap pressure and really challenge OLW with Timmy. We'll
• 40:07
  Speaker 8: see how that part of it holds up for Seattle.
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: If that part fails, the whole offense will fail.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Say Travels, We'll talk to you on Monday. Should be fun, Yeah,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: enjoy the weekend.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: I'll talk to you Monday.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider again. Follow me
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• 40:23
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  Speaker 1: We've got a lot to get to here this segment,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: and yes, we will get to a lot of football.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I'm kind of touching a
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: little bit flattered. I'm kind of excited. I mean, I
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: was a little worried that I went to over the
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: top with draft miss, but now to find out my
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: coworkers are like, you have not gone far enough. I
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: don't think you've heard that correctly. Yeah, barely sufficient is
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: what I heard. So now I might just racing with
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: all sorts of IDs.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: This.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I've never heard this before, but I think this is
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: called wish for hearing. Maybe I'll start next week. Maybe
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: it's not about doing more, just more of the year.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Does that mean I get to play holiday music starting
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: next week?
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: Yes?
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, no, I'm in.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Before Christmas, all right, But yes, before we get to
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: the football, we are going to lead with Major League Baseball.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Last night, finally we were going to learn whether or
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: not cal Raley was going to be named the American
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: League most valuable Player. We've known four months. It was
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: going to come down to either he or the centaur
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: known as Aaron Judge of the New York Yankees. Judge
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: with all of the numbers overall offensively cal with the
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: historic sixty homer season from a switch hitter who plays
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: behind the plate and certainly has a lot more on
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: his plate. So who was going to win the award?
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: It ultimately came down to Aaron Judge taking it. He
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: got seventeen of the thirty votes for first place. Both
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: of them got all of the first or second place votes,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: but it's Aaron Judge who ends up being your most
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Valuable player in any other year. Cal Raley is a
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: runaway winner in this category, but he admitted afterwards that
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: he lost to a really great candidate. Yeah, I mean,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: did you know what was gonna happen? But you know,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: obviously very well deserving. You know, he's a great player,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: and you know it was the tyras. The tyras. Col
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Raley man a few words. I will say this. I mean,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: we've talked about this a lot. I don't think that
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: there was a bad decision to make because I think
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: both of these guys in any other year are running
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: away with the most value. They're not even having to
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: share votes. They're a unanimous choice. I'll tell you right now,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: if it was Cal versus show A, Cal would I
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: think get every single vote because the discrepancy that showed
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: offensively did versus what Cal did wasn't nearly as great.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: And Showay as a pitcher pretty much miss pitched two
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: or three innings every game, and so I think Cal
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: would have beaten show Ay. Maybe not unanimous, but in
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: any normal year he's a unanimous runaway winner. Unfortunately they
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: had to go up against one another here.
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: In this American League race. Yeah, I think they got
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: it wrong. And it's not taken away from judge. I
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: just think that there's there's things that you just can't
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: quantify that were missed by unfortunately three too many people.
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, obviously there's they're all looking into
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: it and trying to make the right decision, and wherever
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: they came, that's their opinion. It's just unfortunate that seventeen
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: of them had the wrong opinion.
• 44:46
  Speaker 8: And so.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: You're entitled to your opinion, but you're wrong.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think it's as I said, earlier, the
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: idea that the complete package that Cal has to work
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: with every single day is more difficult, more of a
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: test for him every single day than what Aaron Judge
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: had to do. And I think more of that should
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: have been accounted for. I know it doesn't have just
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: an easy stat to look at in a column.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: But it should have been weighed as important as the
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: rest of it.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: This is the heart of this conversation and this debate.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Every single person, I promise you, that voted for this
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: took the vote seriously. They have done a job of
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: meeting out the people that weren't taking it seriously. So
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: everybody took it seriously, and everybody did. Factor in everything
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: else that's on the plate for Cal Raley versus everything
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: else that's on the plate for Aaron Judge. And the
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: gap certainly favored Col considerably, but the gap offensively the
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: numbers overall numbers, not just home runs and RBI also
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: was a considerable gap. I mean it was two hundred
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: points of ops. I mean that's a two hundred point
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: point ops difference between Julio Rodriguez and Miles master Bony
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: for goodness sake, and think about that. Stark contrast of player.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: So we believe that that gap, that Col's gap overlaps
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Aaron Judge's offensive gap. That's what we believe, and I
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: think we're right. But seventeen out of thirty voters didn't
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: think it made up the difference in the offensive gap.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: That's it. That's that's the that's the bottom line to
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: this vote.
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, And I guess my bottom line that I
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: will die on this hill is they don't They're wrong.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: They just don't know what they're talking about.
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: They don't they as while I know that they did
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: their due diligence and they take it seriously, they don't
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: know how big of a difference that is.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: It's not that they didn't recognize it.
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: I guarantee if you asked any one of them, is
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: there a difference between what Col brings to the table
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: when he's on the other side when they're doing playing defense,
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: is they're oh, substantial? And then yet seventeen of them
• 47:01
  Speaker 7: said not enough to overcome the substantial difference, which I
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: automatically and anybody with the brain would say, yeah, there's
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: a substantial difference in the offensive numbers outside of the
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: RBIs and home runs. And yet it's just it's just
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: to me, it's not even a contest between the two.
• 47:18
  Speaker 7: I mean, I understand that it's close because of how
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: spectacular judges offensive numbers were, but it's just I sit
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: and think about all that, Like what Ashley's talking about,
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: and you've brought up many times while we've been talking
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: about it all years, since this conversation started halfway through
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: the year, it just is it's it hails in comparison
• 47:36
  Speaker 7: in my opinion, just considering all of the things that
• 47:39
  Speaker 7: he does and the beating that he takes to.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Be able to put up these numbers, and it's historic.
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's that is the thing, right there, is
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: that everybody, even in the priest show leading up to
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: the awards, kept referring to cal season as an his
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: historic season.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: This is historic, look at all the things he accomplished.
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: And then it's like an MLB even put out look
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: all listed all of the things on their Twitter account
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: that Cal accomplished in his historic season, but he still
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: didn't win.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they got it wrong. Yeah, Cal and Julio
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: were both named All MLB last night as well. Yeah,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: that's right. Julio first team All Major League Baseball last night.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Brian wu Andre's Muno's name to the second team as well.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: So certainly Cal Raley had it was the year of Cal.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I know he didn't end up winning the Most Valuable Player.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: I know he didn't end up getting to the World Series,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: but man, if he can top that season, wow, we're lucky.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: But well, wow, I issue you a challenge. Caleb Raleigh
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: the third, Well, good luck to it, Judges.
• 48:48
  Speaker 7: Judges topped the season that he just won MVP with
• 48:52
  Speaker 7: like two out of the three years prior to this,
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: So I mean, it's he's going to be this guy.
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: And I wouldn't have wanted Cal to get it because
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: somebody thought, well, this is his best chance it ever
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: getting one. I just think playing and simple, he had
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: a better year in the entirety, and yet they gave
• 49:08
  Speaker 7: it to Judge, and Judges are deserving candidate.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. He's unbelievable. Yeah, they both
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: were phenomenal, but Cal was better. Yep, Seahawks Rams play
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: on Sunday. Man, what a game this is. I mean,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: obviously the Cal Rawley vote being the number one story
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: must be quite the story. If we're not leading on
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: a football Friday was seven and two versus seven and
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: two for first place in the division. Greg Bell was
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: with us one hour ago and he gave us his
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: key to the game.
• 49:39
  Speaker 8: Sam Darnold, is he human in that? Is he going
• 49:43
  Speaker 8: to come out and say I need to prove myself
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: to myself against this team that just bludgeon me to
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: end my Viking's tenure last January. It's only been ten
• 49:52
  Speaker 8: months the last time he's been on that field. He
• 49:54
  Speaker 8: got sacked nine times and was just a hot mess
• 49:58
  Speaker 8: and the Vikings went from four team and two out
• 50:01
  Speaker 8: of the playoffs and one night. Is Donald truly what
• 50:04
  Speaker 8: he says and what he's shown so far? This poised,
• 50:08
  Speaker 8: unflappable and every game is saying nothing phases me guy.
• 50:13
  Speaker 8: Or is he going to be a little extra and
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: forcing things a little bit more to show these guys
• 50:19
  Speaker 8: don't have me. He's got to play within himself and
• 50:22
  Speaker 8: not force things. He's got to get rid of the
• 50:24
  Speaker 8: ball and be willing to just throw the chuck the
• 50:26
  Speaker 8: ball out of bounds and getting pressured if they get
• 50:29
  Speaker 8: to him. The Rams are susceptible in the secondary. If
• 50:33
  Speaker 8: the Seahawks with Gray's Abel and friends can keep mc
• 50:37
  Speaker 8: donald from being rushed and being pressured into making choices
• 50:41
  Speaker 8: before he wants to. The Seahawks have big plays coming
• 50:45
  Speaker 8: in this ram secondary.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: How close was that to your key? Close?
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Close?
• 50:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah I did, Greg. We'll copy in my papers. Rise
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: on your own paper, guy. I mean, mine's just really
• 51:00
  Speaker 7: that how quick you got to make those decisions and
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: yet you it's such a double head sword because you
• 51:05
  Speaker 7: make it too terribly quick, and you're we're going to
• 51:08
  Speaker 7: be talking about on Monday that he was forcing balls
• 51:10
  Speaker 7: into places and yet if he holds on to it,
• 51:13
  Speaker 7: holds on to it too long, then that's another mistake
• 51:15
  Speaker 7: that you could make.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: What a match, my goodness, What a fun Sunday we
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: got in store for us. Kickoff is going to be
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: at one o'clock. And uh, and I think it is
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: worth noting. I mean this, as Hugh pointed out yesterday
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: in the roundtable, as big a game as this is,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: it's still not like some sort of make or breakdown.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: We can still come back and win the division with
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: a loss. They can still come back and win the
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: division with a loss. You can they Either one of
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: these teams with a loss could end up with a
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: number one seed. For goodness sake, in the entire NFC playoffs.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: So but but for game number ten of the year,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: this is about as big a game number ten of
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: the year as the Seahawks have ever played.
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: I saw in the four letters they said, could the
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: winner of this game automatically jumped to be the Super
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: Bowl favorite?
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I think they will.
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: I think right now they're number one and two in
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: the power rankings, right yeah, stay so yeah, whoever wins
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: is gonna go to number one, that's for sure. But
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Seahawks should have Ernest Jones, should have Cooper Cup, should
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: have Gray Zabel, even though he's popped up on the
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: injury report. Greg even told us an hour ago they
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: might even have Josh Job available to add to that
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: depth in the secondary. Meanwhile, DeVante Adams did practice for
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: the Rams but was limited yesterday. We'll talk more about
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: it coming up later this hour and with Hugh and
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Coach in the nine o'clock hour. Thursday Night Football last
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: night featured a really crappy matchup.
• 52:41
  Speaker 11: This s turned out to be a solid drive for
• 52:42
  Speaker 11: the Patriots under eight minutes to play in the third quarter,
• 52:45
  Speaker 11: pro set in the backfield with digs back, there may.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Out of the gun, looks left, Pro's left for the
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: back of the hand zone.
• 52:51
  Speaker 10: Henderson kept us beat in bouts his third store of
• 52:55
  Speaker 10: the Knights a seven yard touchdown passed by Drake Man
• 53:00
  Speaker 10: and the Patriots go on top twenty to seven with
• 53:03
  Speaker 10: seven forty six to play here in the third quarter.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Thank you Wes wood one for that highlight that we
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: could play this morning. Uh, you know, that was like
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: the first time I got to sit down and like
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: watch an entire Drake May game and find out what
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: the hype was all about. And do you know who?
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: He reminded me of Sam Darnold. Oh, play's exactly that way.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Really yeah, Like accurate throws and really good with ball
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: fakes and getting rid of the football. And he's kind
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: of climbed to the top of the MVP conversation as
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: well in just his second year. It was supposed to
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: be a mismatch, and eventually it did prove to be.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: After allowing the Jets to score on the opening drive
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: of the game, the Patriots defense stiffened. Treveon Henderson scored
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: three touchdowns and route to a twenty seven to fourteen win.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: The Pats the first team to nine wins this season. Meanwhile,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: the two and eight Jets, believe it or not, had
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: their two game winning streaks.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Now that's all right, we're still on our We've still
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: got five.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Possible holding out for your five and a half.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: I just need to get them to the number.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to get there. Yeah, probably, Yeah,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: I think you're gonna fail. What do you think those uniforms?
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I was gonna say those.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: I liked them. I liked them.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: But here's the one problem.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: It kept making me think of the Colts uniforms, just
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: a more muted Colt uniform, and so I was getting
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: the little thrown off.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: But I liked I liked them. I liked the I
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: liked the helmets, the white helmet.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: They were very similar to the Buffalo altar turnout.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah there's more all white too.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: I think there's just a little lighter. Oh okay, they
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: looked exactly like.
• 54:31
  Speaker 7: The Hermston Bulldogs powder puff uniforms. Nice, you guys have
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: powder puff in Illinois?
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 54:37
  Speaker 7: Girls, we did think the girls played a football game
• 54:40
  Speaker 7: before dry homecoming week, So I take my unis. They
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: were very pretty back in nineteen ninety three and they
• 54:47
  Speaker 7: looked pretty yesterday too.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Vintage NFL Week number eleven will start at six thirty Sunday.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: It'll be Washington taking on Miami. That's the last game
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: being played in Europe this seas, Thank goodness. The early
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: game Tampa Bay Buffalo at ten o'clock is going to
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: be a terrific one. If there's one person listening that
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to watch Seahawks rams, there is a good
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: alternative Chiefs and Broncos. And then Sunday night it will
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: be Detroit at Philadelphia. So a great, great slate coming
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: up on Sunday. College football Huskies are gonna host the
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Purdue boiler Makers the Fighting Cliff Averrils on Saturday at
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: four o'clock. Cam Cleland was on with US Wednesday. I
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: asked him whether this one's in the bag.
• 55:33
  Speaker 11: We should worry about every game from here on out, gentlemen,
• 55:35
  Speaker 11: I don't make guarantees.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: At any point.
• 55:38
  Speaker 11: I think Purdy's got some good players. I certainly have
• 55:41
  Speaker 11: watched the film. They are two and eight, They've been
• 55:43
  Speaker 11: in some situations. They have a couple of really good athletes.
• 55:48
  Speaker 11: They have to go on the road and play in
• 55:49
  Speaker 11: Husky Stadium. I would like to see an angry Husky
• 55:51
  Speaker 11: football team. But then I don't know what Jonah Coleman
• 55:54
  Speaker 11: is going to look like. But Alda Muhammad ran very well.
• 55:57
  Speaker 11: You don't know what Denzel's gonna look like. So that
• 55:59
  Speaker 11: means your wide receiver room is way down. Okay, if
• 56:03
  Speaker 11: he's done it. I mean we were talking way down
• 56:05
  Speaker 11: the offensive line. What's that going to look like? All
• 56:08
  Speaker 11: in retrospect, though, our defense played very well, so it
• 56:12
  Speaker 11: did some very very good things. Coach Walter's got these guys.
• 56:15
  Speaker 11: They look healthy. The concern now is how much can
• 56:19
  Speaker 11: Demond take a game over and and be competitive versus
• 56:24
  Speaker 11: these last three games, because you got to win at home,
• 56:26
  Speaker 11: you got to go on the road, and then you
• 56:27
  Speaker 11: have your biggest game of the year against a very
• 56:30
  Speaker 11: very very good Oregon team.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Four pm. Kickoff right here at Sports Radio ninety three
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: point three KJARFM. The Hanks will get it started at noon,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: and you need to be checking out the Hanks every week.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Koog's are going to host Louisiana Tech the Fighting Terry
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Bradshaw's at seven o'clock tomorrow night. Meanwhile, the biggest games
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: in college football this week in number nine, Notre Dame
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: at number twenty two, pit Go Pit number eleven, Oklahoma
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: at number four, Alabama, and number ten Texas at number five.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: George will provide a full Big Ten preview of the
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: weekend coming up at eight forty five College basketball. We've
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: got the Apple Cup of the Hardwood going down tonight
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: and the Huskies are off to a two and one start.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: The Cougs are off to a one and two start
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: with losses to Idaho and Davidson. But you know about
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: this rivalry. You can't let a coog in the car.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: There's a cam cougar in the car. I'll lose a
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: cougar in the car I put it in there. You
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: got to learn to drive with the fear. And there
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: ain't nothing more damn frightened than driving with a live
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: cougar in the car. Where'd you get that thing? I
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: trapped it, been keeping it in my bathroom at the motel,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: feeding an old pizza. Now picking that car you're making,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting in that car. Hey, listen to me.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: If you're calm, that wondrous big cat will be calm too.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: But if you're scared, that beautiful death machine will do
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: what God made it to do, namely each you with
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: a smile on his face. God, he's just following me
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: wherever I go. Well, just looking at you. So you're saying,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: if I just calm down, a cougar will be Okay,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: you got it. Yeah, I think the dogs will be
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: calm tonight.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you just gotta be calm.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I think they'll be calm tonight. I don't think they're
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: gonna worry about having a koog in the car now.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Zag's at Arizona State tonight at eight o'clock as well.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: The Kraken and the JITs played last night at Climate
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Pledge Arena, and the Jets were no match. Matty Beaneers
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: back to marshmen in the circle? What's a hip check
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: in the the rest of the cock dog gun?
• 58:39
  Speaker 9: Paddy Vaneers topple the right circle.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: He fights every.
• 58:43
  Speaker 9: Down, roll tike tag goal, Let's have t what's the
• 58:47
  Speaker 9: cracking on top by.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: A four to three score. Captain scored two goals. Captain's
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: got to say stuff. Yeah, Vin's Dunn also had a
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: goal and two assists. That's Everett fits you on the
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: call last night right here on the flagship car as
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: the Crack and do win five to three how about
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: this is just an oddity. Winnipeg has been involved in
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: one overtime game this season. Early in the season, right
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Cracking had been involved in eight. Already, we've played a
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: lot more hockey. I don't think that's a good thing
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: for the team. I played that much more hockey than
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: everybody else by the end of the year.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: I would hope they balance it out throughout the season.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Lambert might just have to say, we'll just take the
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: point we don't want to play anymore.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, overtime games.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow night, the baby Face Sharks will be taking on
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: the crack and at seven o'clock Climate Pledge Arena. The
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: last time we've faced those whiskerless youngsters, they whipped our
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: butts six to one, and so we got to score
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: to settle tomorrow night at Climate Pledge Arena. And finally,
• 59:47
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• 59:51
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• 59:57
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• 1:00:21
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  Speaker 1: Alright, maybe I've just been getting too fired up for
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: this game on Sunday. Maybe I need to take it
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: down a notch, pretty run on the middle game on
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Sunday and Los Angeles. A couple of good coaches, I guess,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: a couple of quarterbacks that are kind of hot. I
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: suppose it's time to break it down with our QB one.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Hugh Millen is with us here on Chuck and Buck
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: in the morning for some x's and o's. Damn that, Hugh,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: this is awesome. Let's go. This is awesome. I can't wait.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 12: Look, it's just a you know, it's like a mid
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 12: term in a college class where you know, grades pretty high.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 12: It's not as high as the final, but it does
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 12: give you pause to say, Okay, where am I at this?
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: And so I can't wait.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 12: You know, if if Ashley will give the permission, if
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 12: I can be a little bit stereotypically sexist boy, but
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 12: only with Ashley's permission.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Actually, are we good with that? Just for a moment?
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Can I can I delve into those waters like that? Okay?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 12: Well, we're gonna have some friends over and and I
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 12: think like the dudes are gonna be just looking at
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 12: the matchup things, this incredible matchup between Mike McDonald and
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 12: Sean McVay. Right, the chicks who are more drawn to
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 12: the personal stories are gonna be looking at Sam Donald.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 12: Sam Donald is the number one UH person involved in
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 12: this game in my opinion, because if if Matthew Stafford
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 12: has a bad game, nobody's gonna you know, nobody's gonna
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 12: make any referendums on Matthew Stafford if he has a
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 12: bad game. Even if Mike McDonald, you know, if the
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 12: defense kind of gets lits up, lit up, people aren't
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 12: gonna say, well, Mike McDonald forgot how to coach, you know.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 12: But if Sam Donald has a poor game, there's just
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 12: a lot more riding on it for him than anybody
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 12: else involved. Because of the nature of the perceived collapse
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 12: by him last year. He's you know, he's getting hounded
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 12: by the local media, the national media, the pre production
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 12: meetings that are taking place today, they'll be asking about it.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 12: So he's gonna be reminded about that nine sack performance
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 12: and and and the end of the season for the
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 12: Vikings last year. So I just think there's a human
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 12: interest side with Sam Darnold that exceeds all others based
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 12: on you know, just hey, this is one of the
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 12: reasons we love sports. This is why in the Olympics,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 12: you know, when when it comes down to the team
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 12: Olympics and and one of those gals got to sprint
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 12: down the uh and do like nine tumbles and five somersaults,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 12: in the air and she's got to land it, and
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 12: just the pressure and maybe you don't even know what
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 12: gymnastic is like me, but you know there's pressure and
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 12: to watch that little gal just stick that landy, you
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 12: get chills, you know, because of that's what sports is.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 12: And so Sam Donald has got some of that going
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 12: on this Sunday. And so in an event, you know,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 12: there's just wonderful storylines. That's a big one, not just
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 12: for the chicks, the dudes will be taken note of
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 12: that as well.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Well. That's see. That's a little bit interesting because I
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: kind of mocked that, Like ESPN had this headline across
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: the front screen saying what's at stake for Sam Donald?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: I kind of mocked it earlier in the show. My
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: thought was, I don't think there's anything at steak for
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald. If he wins their a game up in
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: the standings, if he loses there a game down in
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: the standings, I don't think we get to the end
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: of this and the narrative becomes, oh, Sam Donald might
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: not be able to beat the Rams. I just don't
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: think it goes there. But you know, maybe I'm wrong,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it is bigger than I was giving it
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: credit for. Well, now we're getting the hypothetical.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 12: Okay, in that scenario, if he were to have a
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 12: bad game, that we know that people know that all
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 12: the talking heads on Monday are going to be ripping him,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 12: then my my response would be, in that scenario, how
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 12: how tough is he mentally?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: That's just as simple as that.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 12: You know, I can remember the the uh, the pep
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 12: talks we used to get from Jimmy Johnson when I
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 12: was with the Cowboys. He majored in uh, industrial psychology.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 12: I don't know what the industrial tag to that is,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 12: but but he was. He was very good in in
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 12: how to present his messaging and he and he just
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 12: just say, hey, emotionally, we are not a roller coaster.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 12: We are not up and down you know at the
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 12: uh you know, at the whims of whatever people say
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 12: about us. We are either mentally tough or we're not.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 12: And you know, a major challenge. So I, you know,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 12: I think that that uh, you know, the Jimmy Johnson
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 12: would have uh component would have to be present for
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 12: Sam Darnold in the event that he were to have
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 12: a poor game. Obviously, we're looking for all the reasons
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 12: why he won't, but I think that he would be
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 12: uniquely challenged in ways that the other principles in this
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 12: game are not.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, do you is there anything in particular that your
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 7: mind goes to when it comes to divisional games? It
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 7: always seems like they're tougher, right, you play them twice
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 7: a year. I don't know if you draft necessarily trying
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 7: to combat your division foes, but your main goal is
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 7: to win the division, and so you got to go
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 7: through those guys.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: You just the familiarity with it.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 7: What is it in particular that that you think, especially
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 7: going into like this week for example, two good teams
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 7: buying for that number one spot that goes into divisional
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 7: matchups that make them tougher, And why it is like that?
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 12: Well, I think sometimes there are divisional games where you
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 12: just don't kind of like the other team. I know,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 12: when I'll reference Jimmy Johnson again, he hated the Eagles,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 12: and I remember he comes out at.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: The end of the game.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 12: We're beating you know, Troitman's the quarterback obviously, and he
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 12: comes over the sideline and Jimmy says, hey, I want
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 12: you to take We've got the We're up by two touchdowns.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 12: Is I want you to take three knees and on
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 12: fourth down, we're gonna start to take a knee and
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 12: then throw it deep and and and Troy is like,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 12: he kind of looks at me, rolls like what. So
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 12: he goes out and you can see him. He goes
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 12: up on first down and and by the way, the
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 12: play by play can back this up. Uh if you
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 12: look at the play by play for that game. Uh,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 12: he goes up and you can see he's talking to
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 12: the Eagles. And so so he takes a knee on
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 12: first down, huddle, taking THEE on second, taking THEE on third.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 12: Then on fourth down he throws a pass, but not
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 12: up the sideline like Jimmy had told him to do.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 12: He throws a coral route, which which with the receiver
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 12: coming back to the line of scrimmage. Uh and uh
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 12: to Alvin Harper get a nice game, but Alvin's tackled
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 12: and blah blah blah and and so the so the
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 12: game's over and and Troy's walking by, and I'm like,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 12: is Jimmy gonna get mad at him for not throwing
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 12: the go route. Well, Jimmy Johnson had the sense to,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 12: uh to to not say anything and so I I said,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 12: what what have you said to the Eagles at the
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 12: line of scrimmage? He said, I told them, I said, listen,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 12: this is Troy at the line of scrimmage talking to
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 12: the Eagle defense. We're gonna take a knee on first
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 12: and second and third down, but I'm gonna throw it
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 12: on fourth down, he warned them. And so he said,
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  Speaker 12: he goes, I'm not getting involved with uh. You know,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 12: Jimmy's you know, vendettas he is. You know these we
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 12: got to play these guys twice a year.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm getting smacked.
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  Speaker 12: And that had stemmed from a time when Buddy Ryan
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 12: was the quarterback when he had excuse me, the coach obviously,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 12: and he had done that. He had Randall cunning and
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 12: am take a few knees and then throw a bomb.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 12: Uh in that possession, which is is just breaks all
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 12: conventions of you know, the rules. I mean, Bucky in baseball,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 12: I mean what I like, if this was baseball, Jimmy
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 12: Johnson or Buddy Buddy Ryan should get a you know,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 12: a fastball in the ninety nine miles an hour in
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 12: the lung, you know, like like we'll self polaf that crowd,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 12: you know, so at any event, there's a lot to
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 12: talk about the SI game. Sorry for that that diversion,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 12: but but but the point is with with the UH,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 12: with with the divisional games, sometimes it's heated. I don't
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 12: get the sense that that there's that hatred here. I
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 12: think there's just respect for two great teams.
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  Speaker 1: know the mountain turns blue at forty two degrees. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of things to discuss with this matchup,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: especially this coaching matchup, if I can be specific, I'm curious,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: and I know you've given it thought how McVeigh would
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: use Nikua and Adams and how McDonald would try to
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: defend them against you know, with the weapon of em
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: and Warri and possibly having all of their corners at
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: their disposal. We're hearing Job might end up playing this weekend.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: So that matchup in articular, those two special smart physical
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  Speaker 1: receivers against the Seahawk secondary. Yeah, okay, so both for
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: Puka Nikua uh, he has seventy nine targets. Davante Adams
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  Speaker 1: seventy eight. Then you go all the way down to
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  Speaker 1: Kiro and Williams the running back at twenty nine. All right,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: so they're and Tyler Higbee at twenty eight. So those
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  Speaker 1: two receivers are the dudes, right, and both of them
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: they have by far the most amount of yards on
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  Speaker 1: in routes. Nicoua one hundred and sixty five yards on
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  Speaker 1: in breaking routes. Remember that when you watching the game,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Davante Adams one hundred and fifty three, that's about fifty
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: percent or more next to the closest. And then the
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  Speaker 1: other one is just.
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  Speaker 12: The hits routes, Nicula just going up five yards stopping
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  Speaker 12: and then it's like, okay, he's really strong, you got
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 12: you gotta tackle. But on those in breaking routes, it
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 12: makes sense because they like to have squeezed formations. So
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 12: think of Nicua and DeVante Adams close relatively close, not
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 12: by out by the sideline, but closer to the ball
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 12: that is inside what's called the divider for the corner,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 12: where the corner says, well, if you get tight enough,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 12: and it depends on what hashy are middle of the
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  Speaker 12: field and what happens. So I'm not going to give
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 12: in the nuances of the divider, but basically the corners.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 12: Then they say, well, I'm going to be an outside
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 12: leverage because you're so tight to the ball. Well, when
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 12: you're an outside leverage, you're susceptible to the inbreaking route.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 12: Now there's a component to that that all ties together.
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  Speaker 12: All these things that I'm discussing are all tied together schematically, because.
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  Speaker 1: After all, this.
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  Speaker 12: Segment called x's and o's. So when you look at
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 12: Matthew Stafford's splits, there are seven coverages that and I'm
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 12: not going to go into all there's seven coverages where
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 12: he has at least five dropbacks. Okay, in all seven
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 12: of those coverages, his passer rating is over one hundred
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  Speaker 12: except for one it's called Cover four, and his passer
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  Speaker 12: rating is only fifty eight point eight. In fact, out
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 12: of thirty three qualifying quarterbacks, Sam Darnold is dead. Excuse me,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 12: Matthew Stafford is dead last thirty three out of thirty
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 12: three in against Cover four. And so I went and
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 12: watched the tape I was able to filter. I watched
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 12: the coach's copy tape of Cover four. What's what's the
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  Speaker 12: problem with him? What Cover four is you got the
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 12: two say there's four deep, as the name implies, there's
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 12: only three guys underneath. The three guys underneath, I'm close
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 12: to the line of scrimmers. They have to play man
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 12: concepts within his own because there's only three guys underneath.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 12: You can't just drop to a spot because the holes
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 12: will be too big, So you're kind of playing man underneath.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 12: But on all those inbreaking routes, what did I say
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 12: that top UH routes were by Niku and Adams, they're
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 12: in breaking routes. Well, if you have the two safety
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 12: sitting there robbing on those in breaking routes, you see
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 12: Stafford hold.
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  Speaker 1: The ball and what have you.
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  Speaker 12: So now they say, okay, do Seattle play UH cover? Well,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 12: they they have played at fourteen percent of the time,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 12: which is sixth that's sixteenth in the league. So they're
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 12: dead averaging their their frequency. Unfortunately for Seattle, that's been
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 12: their worst coverage by passer rating. So Mike, you know,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 12: you know, this is the type of things that happened
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 12: during the week where you know, at eleven o'clock at night,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 12: when Mike McDonald's got a you know, a toddler at home,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 12: he's still in the building and he's asking questions like this, Hey,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 12: how much cover forward?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: How do we feel about this?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 12: And if we played dime and so so, if we
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 12: played dime in a longer yardist situation, we can get
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 12: we can get even worry on on one side. And
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 12: as they said, underneath coverage, he's got to you gotta
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 12: kind of play man concerts within his own I can
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 12: get Witherspoon, Okay, I love that matchup. Now I can
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 12: get Josh Job and I can get Reek Woolen as
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 12: my corners. And then I wish I had Julian Love.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 12: But Tyocott has been playing great and Kobe Bryant's just
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 12: been solid as hell. And so now we can get
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  Speaker 12: into a cover four and we got dudes everywhere, and
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 12: hopefully Earn Stones. He'd be the mic in that situation,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 12: and and you know, you'd have what's called the number
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 12: three receiver counting outside in on the three receiver side,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 12: so he's got to be in covered, so that knee
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 12: would be a question. But all of this stuff is
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 12: is kind of you know, stuff that you wonder, but
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 12: that would be a fact. You asked me how you
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 12: might defend Matthew Stafford. That's something that's really pivotal based
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 12: on those tendencies.
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  Speaker 7: Hugh Tory Horton didn't practice yesterday, so he's presumably, I
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 7: would think probably out. Is this a week where you
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 7: think they'll they'll implement rashid shaheat and could he be
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 7: a factor in it maybe going deep or does he
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 7: at least take the top off to where it opens
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 7: up the guys underneath.
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  Speaker 12: Great question for me to give an answer would be
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 12: just talking out of my ass because we haven't seen
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 12: Shaheed other than a in a blowout where you know
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 12: it's twenty one nothing in the first quarter, So we
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 12: don't We didn't know how how how we don't. I
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 12: don't know the cohesion that he's established with with Darnold.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 12: So here's what I saw from seat. They gave him
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 12: the ball on an end around. Uh, you can see
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 12: the bursts. He looks good. He's wearing those highlight pen
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 12: green shoes. Keep wearing those because you look faster, and
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 12: when you look faster, the defenders kind of go, WHOA,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 12: what's this heat coming out of me? They get out
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 12: of their back pedal. That that declares for the defense.
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  Speaker 12: So I like that it's not just style. And and
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 12: then now presumably he may have to take on a
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 12: bigger role. I don't think he's you know, when you
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 12: consider his closing ability on deep balls, the ability to
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 12: actually track and catch the ball, He's not He's not
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 12: at jsn's level by a long shot, but he's faster,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 12: and so if he gets by a guy, you know,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 12: I don't think he's going to be as good catching
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 12: a contested ball, but if he has separation, throw it
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 12: to him and then kick a pat, let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: So I short answer, I don't don't really know. I
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: know his speed does stretch the defense.
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  Speaker 12: And it is a prominent and if you're playing man
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 12: and man, you better have a guy who's fast enough
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 12: or at least strong enough to jam him at the
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 12: line of scrimmage and impede his free access. I kind
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 12: of like the idea, like some dry ice in his
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 12: uniform so it looks like he is smoking down the field.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 12: If you're saying it matters, like yeah, if you look faster,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 12: like this guy's so fast he's smoking out of the back.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 12: It works on a biplane in those air shows. Why
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 12: can't it work for seed man? It's like all of
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 12: a sudden, the DB's are going, WHOA, get out of
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 12: your back be bet'll let the snap of the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait till Monday morning to break all
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  Speaker 1: of this down with you. This is gonna be one
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: hell of a football game Sunday, mister Millan, Oh is it?
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  Speaker 4: I mean?
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  Speaker 12: And you know there's there's other matchups we didn't get to.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 12: But I you know, I don't know if you guys
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 12: are biting with me on it sounds like you and
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 12: I don't quite agree on on what this means means
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 12: for darnold, you know what I got to mention this?
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 12: Can I please give me a time here because I
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 12: got these notes. I gotta get to this outside zone.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 12: That's the Seahawks. We've heard all summer. Outside zone canine dude,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 12: this guy is he He has five point five yards
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 12: per attempt on outside zone Zach Zach Sarvona only has
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 12: three point six. They're almost too two yards separating. I
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 12: know that we've been nursing your foot, and and and
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 12: Greg has been telling us like, hey, we're doing load management.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 12: We got bringing an NBA experts to tell us the backup. No, canine,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 12: you you are the you forget that.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: You gotta go.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 12: It's time to go. You gotta get hard in the paint.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 12: When you're going inside against those dime personnel groupings by
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 12: the Rams because they're number one in the NFL and dime,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 12: you gotta go hard. And if you're getting an outside zone,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 12: you gotta keep playing. The PFF ranks ranks Canine as
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 12: number two when just by great but just their their
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 12: subjective these number two in the outside zone. That's the
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 12: Seahawks bread and butter is the outside zone. He's two
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 12: yards ahead of Charbonnet Kanine. Don't go out and bounce,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 12: you know, fight for every yard, show the physicality, like like,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 12: I'm tired of this guy's, you know, one of the
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 12: top twelve most talented guys on the football field. He's
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 12: got to show up and I don't want to hear
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 12: about load manager. Grab that outside zone and go run
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 12: somebody over.
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  Speaker 5: Hi.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, coach on right every Friday at this time. Good morning, coach,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Good morning guys.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: How's it going?
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: You excited for your Sunday? You excited for this game?
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: You know what I am?
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: Now, we watched some games this year that have been
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: kind of over at halftime or not so exciting. This
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: one promises to be special.
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  Speaker 1: I think, what do you do as a coach? I mean,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: it's midway through the season. It's not make or break,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: it's not like the division is on the line. Do
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: you just let the and trust that the players know
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: that this is a more important game than most of
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: the games, or do you start the week off by
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: reminding him I will I want this game, we need
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: this game. How do you approach this as a head coach?
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  Speaker 6: Well, for me, it's probably somewhere in between. I think
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 6: the players do know what's at stake. It's a great
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 6: rivalry anyway, just just just off the top. And but
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: then you have to they have to know how you
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 6: feel about this game as their coach, And so anytime
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: I came into a game like this, I would probably
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 6: start my Monday meetings talking about exactly that how important
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 6: this game is. You know, everyone, Look, every game is important.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: I understand that, but this one, let's get after it.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 6: It was just something like that. And then then I
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: don't think you have to dwell on it too much
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: during the week.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, intensity shouldn't be an issue, right, You're always going
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 7: whenever you go up against a division foe. But then
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 7: when you're tied at the top of the division and
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 7: it kind of pumps up a little bit. So how
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 7: do you how do you make sure that they understand
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 7: the importance and yet also keeping it calm enough to
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 7: where you're paying attention to the details and not shooting
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 7: yourself on the foot.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think you do exactly what you just said.
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  Speaker 4: Buck.
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  Speaker 6: You you talk about the importance of the game, and
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: they have to see you're a change in you. You know,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: I've talked to you guys before that whenever I played
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 6: against the team or coach against the team that I
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 6: previously had worked for, the players said I changed. I
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 6: was different that week. I didn't. I wasn't sure how
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 6: I was different, but they sensed it. So if the players,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 6: if you can convey that to the players. Yet at
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 6: the same time, to your point, listen, we still have
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 6: to tackle, we still have to block, we have to
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 6: do the basic things, no turnovers, and just like any
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 6: other game. But they know and you've got to convey
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 6: that somehow.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: Speaking of former teams, I asked us of Greg earlier,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: I would get your perspective on this. I would imagine
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: most of the time when you had, like a player
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: who played on the team that you're getting ready to
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: go against, you probably didn't seek out their advice. That's
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: that would be my guess. You're probably not going to
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: go ask the punter, hey, what makes Matt Stafford tick
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: just because he used to play with him. But when
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: you've got two guys as sharp as Cooper Cup and
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: Ernest Jones, I mean the middle of their defense two
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: years ago and arguably their best player just two you know,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: two years ago, and certainly both cerebral players. How much
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: do you tap into how much they know about their
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: former teammates?
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  Speaker 6: You absolutely tap in, particularly what guys like you mentioned,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 6: you know, who are you know who know the game?
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 6: Who you can see that in their play for you?
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: And yeah, you talk to them. What bothers them?
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 5: What?
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: What?
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 6: What helps them?
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 8: What?
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: What?
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: What should we do in this situation? What can we
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 6: expect on offense in this situation? I remember one time
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 6: we had got Reggie White and Green Bay from Philly
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 6: or he was a free agent, and then so I
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 6: sat him down. We're we're playing the Eagles, and I
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 6: set him down at lunch and I said, hey, tell
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 6: me about it the defensive calls, you know, tell me
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 6: about how they call their defenses. And he well, they
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 6: call it blue or red. I said, okay, what is blooming?
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 6: Blue means I play the run. Red means I'm unleashed
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 6: and I can rush the passer. I said, is that it? Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: that's pretty much it. So that was a lunchtime that
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  Speaker 6: didn't didn't mount to much.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, so, but you would ask guys.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely, you would ask guys coach.
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  Speaker 7: If Mike McDonald or Clinton Kobiak had called you in
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  Speaker 7: this weekend, maybe they did. I mean, if they're smart,
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  Speaker 7: they would and they said, you know, we want you
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  Speaker 7: to give Sam one pointer, Donald, to give one pointer
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  Speaker 7: of what he needs to be cautious of or make
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  Speaker 7: sure that he does correctly. What would that one thing
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  Speaker 7: be that he needs to be on top of it
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  Speaker 7: as far as his game goes this weekend?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I would.
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  Speaker 6: I would just say, don't don't press. You know, we
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  Speaker 6: just talked about how important this game is and he
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  Speaker 6: knows that. And you know a lot of comparisons are
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  Speaker 6: made between Stafford and Darnold this week. But you know,
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  Speaker 6: I just play. Just do what you've been doing, you know,
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  Speaker 6: and be careful when you get in the red zone.
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  Speaker 6: Don't press. Every play is not there. We hope it's there,
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  Speaker 6: but every play is not there. So be smart. And
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  Speaker 6: then you know, and then but then play the game,
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  Speaker 6: but trying to avoid anything any crazy throws.
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  Speaker 4: Be smart.
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  Speaker 1: Now, when you are Mike McDonald and you're known for
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: being a defensive specialist, and now you're going up against
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  Speaker 1: this guy here who's known for his offensive mind, and
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  Speaker 1: you've got a good year and a half in so
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  Speaker 1: now you can't call yourself a rookie anymore. Like you
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  Speaker 1: want to match wits with this guy. Are those things
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  Speaker 1: that you used to embrace that you would do differently,
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  Speaker 1: like when you would face Buddy Ryan. How much different
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  Speaker 1: was your prep in getting ready for that game?
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  Speaker 8: Oh?
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  Speaker 6: It absolutely was different because Buddy Ryan's defenses were unique
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  Speaker 6: at the time. And I remember telling our guys with
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 6: the forty nine ers as an example, okay, and they
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  Speaker 6: run around and they do stuff, and they, you know,
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  Speaker 6: just instead of our normal progression reads, just throw to
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  Speaker 6: the first guy who's open. Just don't worry about the
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 6: second thirds, just go to the first guy who's open.
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  Speaker 6: And that seemed to work better against his teams. Now
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  Speaker 6: that's the only time we did that. Otherwise, you know,
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  Speaker 6: we were pretty buttoned down. And I tried to do
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: that with our passing game every place I've been, but
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  Speaker 6: against teams that really try and do a lot of
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  Speaker 6: stuff to confuse you, you have to simplify what you're
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 6: telling the quarterback for that game.
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  Speaker 1: Does McVeigh, I mean, what do you think of him
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  Speaker 1: as an offensive play caller? Is he as good as
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: there is out there right now.
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  Speaker 6: I think he is Chuck, I really do. I think
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  Speaker 6: you know he's he's aggressive, but you know, and I
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  Speaker 6: told you before I had a chance to interview him
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  Speaker 6: proprior the Super Bowl when I worked that game, and
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  Speaker 6: he was just excited young. He was really fun and
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  Speaker 6: very impressive young guy. And of course his record has
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  Speaker 6: proven that he's done very well. Now I would say this,
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  Speaker 6: and also in any situation, it kind of helped me
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  Speaker 6: when I had Joe Montana, it kind of helped me
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  Speaker 6: look pretty good. And so you know, you he's got
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford and so I don't think there are any restrictions.
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  Speaker 6: He just has to you know, he can do whatever
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  Speaker 6: he feels the quarterback has to do because he has
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  Speaker 6: the guy that can do it.
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  Speaker 1: My guess is, you tell me that offensive genius will
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: always top defensive genius. But tell me at least lie
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  Speaker 1: to me that Sunday it's going to be different.
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  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 6: I can't lie to you, I really can't. You know,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 6: if you're an offensive genius, you know, look at but good.
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  Speaker 6: I just told you about the greatest defensive lineman inustry
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 6: of football, Blue and Red you know, and I remember
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 6: do you remember a guy named Jim Burt. Oh, yeah,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 6: from the nose tackle for the Giants. Really a good player,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 6: I said, tell me about playing nose tackle. He goes, well,
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  Speaker 6: I either hit him straight in the nose. I go
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 6: to the right or go to the left.
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  Speaker 4: I go.
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  Speaker 6: That's it. That's it. So that's your defensive prep for
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  Speaker 6: the week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, understood, understood. Well, have a great weekend.
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  Speaker 1: We look forward to breaking it down with you on Monday.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, guys, you too.
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