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Herman and Candelaria Zapp on 22 Years of Worldwide Travel in a 1928 Graham-Paige · The Overland Journal Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Overland Journal podcast. I'm your
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  Speaker 1: host Ashley Jordano, and today I'm joined by Herman and
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  Speaker 1: Cala daria Zapp who spent twenty two years driving around
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  Speaker 1: the world in a nineteen twenty eight grand page car.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me all the way
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  Speaker 1: from Brazil.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Ashley, thank you. We are happy to share.
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  Speaker 2: We are very happy to share.
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  Speaker 1: So what are you guys up to now, because you've
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  Speaker 1: been home for a little while.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yes, we arrive in twenty two in Argentina, where
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  Speaker 2: it's our home, and since then we were building up
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  Speaker 2: a play like a campaign to receive traveler hosted travelers
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  Speaker 2: around the world. Many of them they come to visit
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  Speaker 2: us and it's so lovely to have them to USh.
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  Speaker 3: More homes and well then we're doing events for for travelers, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: to inspire the people to go for their own dreams
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  Speaker 3: if they want to travel and all that.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, can you imagine someone after traveling so long
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  Speaker 2: to be back in a business or in a shop
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  Speaker 2: or in a workshop. It will be kind of hard,
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  Speaker 2: and it's the best way we were able to stay
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  Speaker 2: at home was stay in touch with travelers. So now
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  Speaker 2: instead of going to the world, it won't come to us.
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  Speaker 4: I love that so much. That is so awesome.
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  Speaker 1: When did you have the idea to start this up
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  Speaker 1: when you got home or before you got home?
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  Speaker 2: A lot long alone before? I can't we go.
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  Speaker 3: While we were traveling, we say it would be great
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  Speaker 3: when we return back to Argentina to have our spot
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  Speaker 3: for travelers, and because we really know what we need
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  Speaker 3: when you are on the road. We were twenty two
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  Speaker 3: years so we said it would be good. It would
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  Speaker 3: be great to have the people, you know, to find
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  Speaker 3: a mechanic or to find make paperwork.
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  Speaker 5: So whatever do they need, or wash.
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  Speaker 2: Their clothes, so many things that you yeah, we knew
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  Speaker 2: what they were in. So here we are trying to
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  Speaker 2: help them as much that weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Which travelers do you see the most often? The Europeans? Brazilians?
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  Speaker 2: Well mostly I think we are between Brazilians and Europeans mostly,
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  Speaker 2: but we are receiving lately a lot of United States people.
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  Speaker 2: Lately we are getting a lot of Germans, but German
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  Speaker 2: and mostly are the most French. The French mostly they
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  Speaker 2: come with family and kids.
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  Speaker 3: Mostly yeah, Russia, we have one from Russia, but Luxembourg
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  Speaker 3: in some weird countries from from Turkey with you have
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  Speaker 3: we only have two years with it. It's so nice
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  Speaker 3: because when they cross the gate, we have a very
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  Speaker 3: big place, you know, where they can leave their car
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  Speaker 3: storage and they go to visit Buenoside, the city from there.
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  Speaker 5: And when we see them coming and we see.
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  Speaker 3: That they are from France, from Turkey, from Russia, from Germany, Mexico,
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  Speaker 3: and it is so nice that we know where they're
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  Speaker 3: coming from because we've been there with their people. We
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  Speaker 3: were eating their food, and we really know what they
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  Speaker 3: we need.
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  Speaker 4: So it's very nice, cool, very nice.
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  Speaker 1: That's such a great idea and giving back to the
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  Speaker 1: overlying community. And I love what you were saying about
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  Speaker 1: being able to relate to the people coming in because
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  Speaker 1: you've been to the countries where they're from.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, so so so great.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, we have a sign there. We have
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  Speaker 3: a sign that is the zero kilometer zero of the dreams.
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  Speaker 3: So everybody take a picture with their Moro home in
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  Speaker 3: the kilometer zero of dreams.
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  Speaker 5: Because our journey, it was our journey, it was a dream.
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  Speaker 5: So we have the.
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  Speaker 1: Kilometers zero. Let's talk about your kilometer zero as well.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go back in time and ask you
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  Speaker 1: some questions about the car and the dream that you had.
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  Speaker 1: So this nineteen twenty eight grand Page car you already own,
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  Speaker 1: why did you decide to take it on this ultimate
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  Speaker 1: twenty two year road trip.
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  Speaker 2: No, we never thought about it, never thought it, and
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  Speaker 2: we only got it three months before we started the journey.
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  Speaker 2: And we already have decided the day of starting the
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  Speaker 2: journey long before and the car show up. We were
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  Speaker 2: not looking for any kind of car because for us,
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  Speaker 2: we were always backpackers and the idea to go with
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  Speaker 2: car was like, it's gonna be a problem, custom breakdown parts.
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  Speaker 2: So we never thought about going in a car. But
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  Speaker 2: someone offered me a vintage car. I read a well,
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  Speaker 2: I kind of friend, kind of a friend who offered
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  Speaker 2: me a car. I said, no, I'm going to alask
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  Speaker 2: a backpack and I don't need a car now. And
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  Speaker 2: of course I don't need a vintage. I never was
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  Speaker 2: into cars. I never went to see a car show.
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  Speaker 2: And he has we come to see and maybe you
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  Speaker 2: will know someone who will love to have a car
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  Speaker 2: like this one. I was curious. It wasn't my way
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  Speaker 2: where I was going to, so I said, let's go
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  Speaker 2: and take a look, and I followed out. I saw
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  Speaker 2: it and I felt that I had to go out
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  Speaker 2: with a guy. I didn't even call Candy and I
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  Speaker 2: didn't ask her. I bought it right there in the spot,
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  Speaker 2: and I said, what.
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  Speaker 3: With this car, No way, we're gonna be all the
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  Speaker 3: time in the mechanics shop.
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  Speaker 5: We never never drove an old car.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm not a mechanical at all. I don't
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  Speaker 2: have no idea.
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  Speaker 3: It has wooden spokes. Imagine you can't go. We were
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  Speaker 3: going at fifty per hour, very very slow. And uh,
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  Speaker 3: we said, oh, it's gonna break.
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  Speaker 5: Down all the time.
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  Speaker 2: She was right, she was right. We were always in
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  Speaker 2: many workshops. We met so many beautiful mechanics. Only one
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  Speaker 2: let us pay him we go. We almost forced him
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  Speaker 2: to charge up because he was so so poor that
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  Speaker 2: we you know, you need to come on get some
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  Speaker 2: money for these two days of work in my car.
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  Speaker 2: And uh, but everybody was so happy. Many times we
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  Speaker 2: say thank god the car broke down, otherwise we wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: meet these people. Once in Zimbabwe, we went with the
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  Speaker 2: car went through a river without bridge, so we were
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  Speaker 2: through the water and I didn't know that I should
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  Speaker 2: go with the engine that was cold. You should not
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  Speaker 2: go with the water with your engine hot. And he
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  Speaker 2: broke the engine. He cracked, and thank god he cracked
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  Speaker 2: the engine because we were hosted in an orphanage with
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  Speaker 2: seventy kids for two months as we were long freshing
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  Speaker 2: my engine. And what my kids learned playing staying with
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  Speaker 2: those seventy orphange kids, They learned so much about life,
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  Speaker 2: about family, about friendship, about freedom because this kid could
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  Speaker 2: not go out till they are eighteen from there, and
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  Speaker 2: so many things. So at the end it was wonderful.
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  Speaker 2: We even spent Christmas with them, So it was at
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  Speaker 2: the end so wonderful that we broke the engine.
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  Speaker 4: I think God journeys like this.
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  Speaker 1: It's easy to get into this mode of like you
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  Speaker 1: want to know kind of what's going on, and you
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  Speaker 1: want to plan, and you want to have sort of
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  Speaker 1: a semblance of feeling like you have control over what's happening.
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  Speaker 1: And this is such a beautiful example of something that
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  Speaker 1: you could have viewed as like this went wrong or
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, but it actually led, which it often does
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  Speaker 1: to another experience.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it was always always like that. So at
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  Speaker 2: the end we were like, okay, the cover broke down. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: what is coming? What is the surprise of the day
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  Speaker 2: because it covered down, Well, we're not worried about the breakdown.
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  Speaker 3: Our routine of the journey was to not have routine,
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  Speaker 3: you know, actually, and each day was different all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Variety is the space of life. They say, for sure,
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious. What were some of your favorite things about
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  Speaker 1: the vehicle?
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  Speaker 2: My favorite thing, but the video was were first. It
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  Speaker 2: was a huge surprise for us because before we left
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  Speaker 2: and we told everyone were read as is our friend,
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  Speaker 2: that we were going to go to Laka now with
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  Speaker 2: this car, and everybody was laughing, like, come on, don't
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  Speaker 2: be ridiculous. This car is not made to get you
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  Speaker 2: fiftyilometers away from your home. So we had to stop
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  Speaker 2: telling people that we were going to go with the car.
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  Speaker 2: And when we started to go with the car the
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  Speaker 2: first day, we were only able to do fifty kilometers.
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  Speaker 2: As they told us. We got the car broke down.
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  Speaker 2: We got into a little town and we asked for
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  Speaker 2: a mechanics to check and he said, I'm not a carpenter,
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  Speaker 2: I am a mechanic, and you're woody spoke as your
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  Speaker 2: problem and the same god there was a blacksmith still
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  Speaker 2: in town, very all blacksmiths with three siblings. He three brothers.
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  Speaker 2: Right away they started to fix my will. I asked
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  Speaker 2: them how to fix it in the futures and he
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  Speaker 2: asked me, why where are you going with the car?
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  Speaker 2: I said, oh, we're going for our dream. And I
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  Speaker 2: told him that we were going to Alaska and he said, okay,
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  Speaker 2: you should check what we're doing because you don't have
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  Speaker 2: to do it many time for sure. And after we
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  Speaker 2: fited the job, asking okay, how much will be this
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  Speaker 2: and they said, oh, no, we are not going to
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  Speaker 2: charge you. And I think went on, you told us
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  Speaker 2: this is your dream. We want to be part of
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  Speaker 2: your dream. So the most favorite part of our car
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  Speaker 2: was that it was opening doors. Whenever we went, people
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  Speaker 2: were smiling or were waving to us. She said she
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  Speaker 2: felt like the you know, the prison on the carnival
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  Speaker 2: going the queen in the was saying hello, I say,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like the pope everyone.
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  Speaker 3: And the favorite part of traveling with this kind of
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  Speaker 3: car was like, you know, when we show up in
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  Speaker 3: town or in the house or whatever, is that the
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  Speaker 3: people didn't know what kind of people we were, right,
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  Speaker 3: They didn't see us as you go with a very
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  Speaker 3: big model home. You know, all prepare for everything, and
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  Speaker 3: it's like they put you in a level that they said,
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  Speaker 3: these people, you know, have a lot of money and
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  Speaker 3: they have everything they need and all that, but this car,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it was like or you didn't have enough
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  Speaker 3: money to buy a.
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  Speaker 2: Proper car or region, and they didn't know what kind
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  Speaker 2: of people we were.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't know what kind of religion we pray, They
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  Speaker 3: didn't know which kind of neighborhood we are coming, so
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  Speaker 3: they will put you in a you know, in a level.
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  Speaker 5: In a class, social class.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't know which kind of school our kids were going,
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  Speaker 3: and they only host a family that it was accomplishing
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  Speaker 3: their dream. This car was like something that they took
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  Speaker 3: us from all the things that they can see if
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  Speaker 3: they can host you or not, what kind of people
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  Speaker 3: you are. You know, it's just well like so transparent.
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  Speaker 3: Everything was so so simple. They host a dream and
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  Speaker 3: that was for me, it was the best part of
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  Speaker 3: traveling with this.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of car.
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  Speaker 1: I love that it's like such a big difference, just
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  Speaker 1: even like to have windows rolled down, like if you're
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  Speaker 1: in a vehicle that has windows that you could open
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  Speaker 1: or close or you know, you're just kind of being open,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that that's probably part of it, Like
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  Speaker 1: you were saying, is they sensed your openness.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, what a cool, cool experience.
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  Speaker 1: And along the way, so when you left, you didn't
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  Speaker 1: have any kids, and then when you got back you
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  Speaker 1: had four right different places.
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  Speaker 4: So we were that journey.
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  Speaker 5: But it wasn't the plan.
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  Speaker 3: If I wouldn't know before I left that I was
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  Speaker 3: gonna be twenty two years on the road that I
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  Speaker 3: was running, I was gonna run out of money and
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  Speaker 3: I have four children, maybe I would never start this journey.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: It was like I was already afraid just thinking that
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  Speaker 3: we were going from Argentina to Alaska in six months
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  Speaker 3: and then we came back. That was our first plan
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  Speaker 3: and have a child wents in Argentina. But if I
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  Speaker 3: would it was with so many years at that moment,
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  Speaker 3: So imagine if I would know all this big journey,
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  Speaker 3: if around the world twenty two years, Oh, maybe I
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  Speaker 3: will never leave my house.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you would be so scared. THEDEO was just going
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  Speaker 2: to Alaska in maybe six months, journey, return and be normal,
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  Speaker 2: have kids and go on. But uh, with this car
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  Speaker 2: as can you say. We were getting so many vications
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  Speaker 2: because many people will get close. It will be assigned
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  Speaker 2: that say, driving from Argentina to Alaska, people will come
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  Speaker 2: and they will say, oh, you're making you're doing the
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  Speaker 2: dream of my life. And then after talking a while,
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  Speaker 2: they will ask us to go to their home, and
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  Speaker 2: we will always say yes. And when we were in
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  Speaker 2: their homes, it was after it took us so long,
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  Speaker 2: and so we were so long in so many homes.
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  Speaker 2: It took its like almost three years to get to Laka,
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  Speaker 2: three years and nine months exactly to get to Alaska,
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  Speaker 2: so a lot more than those six months will plan.
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  Speaker 2: And after two years in the journey and six years
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  Speaker 2: eight years already married, we asked, what about having a family,
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  Speaker 2: making a family?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know what our idea was to go
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  Speaker 3: in six months after them back and have the children.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe two and maybe we're gonna even have kids. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: we are taking care, but we will never be able
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  Speaker 2: to have kids.
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  Speaker 3: And we have two dreams in our lives. One was
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  Speaker 3: to travel and the other one was to have a
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  Speaker 3: big family.
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  Speaker 2: Seventeen family that was always really to have seven kid
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  Speaker 2: When we were she was fourteen and I was sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: We thirty dates. She was really and I met her
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  Speaker 2: when she was eight. Imagine, so how long we were together.
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  Speaker 2: And so imagine we say, okay, let's try to have kids.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe we are not it's not possible for us.
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  Speaker 2: We should try. Next month, we were already pregnant. I said,
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  Speaker 2: my god, what are we gonna do? We were so scared,
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  Speaker 2: and we say, okay, this baby had to be born
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  Speaker 2: in Alaska. And so we had to hurry up from
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  Speaker 2: we were in what Mala when we got pregnant in
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  Speaker 2: Belize with final and we said, okay, this baby, hat
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  Speaker 2: you born in Alaska because it's not possible to travel
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  Speaker 2: with kids, even with babies even worse, and he was
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  Speaker 2: born in North Carolina. We got a red neck baby
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  Speaker 2: with us. It was so wonderful because when we were
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  Speaker 2: there we were with little money. But I said, you
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  Speaker 2: can no worry. I was born in USA. The government
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  Speaker 2: will help me. We applied for Medicare, but they told
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  Speaker 2: me not because I was not a resident of the USA.
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  Speaker 2: I was living in Arcentia. So we went to the
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  Speaker 2: hospital and we are for help, and they said, well,
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  Speaker 2: you will get the bill like everybody if you don't
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  Speaker 2: have money. You had to go to medicare, but I
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  Speaker 2: already went. They told me no, Well, I'm sorry, And
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: she has a huge cross in her chest like she
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  Speaker 2: was so happy. I'm proud to Catholic or whatever religion
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  Speaker 2: she was following. And uh, I asked her before I
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  Speaker 2: left the office, what would you do if instead of
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  Speaker 2: us asking for help to have a baby, it would
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  Speaker 2: be Joseph and Mary asking YouTube help to have a baby.
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  Speaker 2: Would you send them to the street like you're doing
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  Speaker 2: with that? Oh? She said, oh, I'm sorry, I just
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  Speaker 2: worked here. I said, okay, when you go to heaven
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  Speaker 2: and some Peter will say no to you, and why
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  Speaker 2: not he was said, Oh, I'm sorry, I shall work here.
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  Speaker 2: But we went to the people. We went to the
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  Speaker 2: lovely newspaper article come out and may how many thousands
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  Speaker 2: of people came to help us. The doctor didn't charge you,
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  Speaker 2: the arest, theodor, the patrician, all the nurse, everybody in
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  Speaker 2: the hospital didn't want to charge us. So we only
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  Speaker 2: paid the room, the hospitality room, right like a hotel.
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  Speaker 2: And so many other people help with Roch fourteenth straya.
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  Speaker 2: We said, we all have only one kid.
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  Speaker 3: She was amazing, amazing and Pampa was born there in
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  Speaker 3: North Carolina. Here right to Alaska, but walking, yes, he
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  Speaker 3: never was born in Alaska. And then we returned back
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  Speaker 3: to Argentina. My mom was with the cancer, and we said, okay,
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  Speaker 3: let's go and follow all the way to Shuaya. I
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  Speaker 3: been here my mom and here was born our second
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  Speaker 3: boy in Argentina.
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  Speaker 2: Then we shift the car to Miami and we did
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  Speaker 2: a different road through USA and we crossed hold the whole.
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  Speaker 2: Calea and Paloma was born in Vancouver Island, in an Aimo.
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  Speaker 3: And then we went to Australia and wa Lavi was
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  Speaker 3: born in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: So instead of buying a year, we are making souven years.
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  Speaker 2: It's much too much more. Yeah, but you had to
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  Speaker 2: imagine that it was. You had to imagine that it
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  Speaker 2: was a time that there was not Netflix. Now that
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  Speaker 2: you have NEPHLIW, maybe you can take more.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't have a phone he started right. It was in
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  Speaker 3: the year two thousand when we started. We didn't have
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  Speaker 3: a phone, We didn't have GPAs.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's have yeah, so what do we do.
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering, like, what was the experience like of being
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  Speaker 1: pregnant on the road.
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  Speaker 3: It was very lovely. At the beginning. The first one,
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  Speaker 3: I was very afraid. Of course, I wasn't with my mom.
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  Speaker 3: It was in this internet that is nowadays that you
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  Speaker 3: know so frequently you cannounce anything on the internet. We
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  Speaker 3: didn't have the phone, as we say, and it was
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  Speaker 3: really really I was really afraid for the first one.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, I was with herman. We were both
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  Speaker 3: of us enjoying every every second of the pregnancy. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's not like he was working and I was working.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: And then we met at the home and I said
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: to him, oh, I felt a kick off the baby today.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: We were sharing every every time everything, and I have
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: wonderful pregnances.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: Wonderful and I have one, you know, the records, the
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: plain records files.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: And then I was going like, I don't know, Mexico,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: please doctor informed, how is the baby, how did you
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: see the baby? All the exams and tests that we made,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: and all that for the next country, in the next,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: the next doctor, in the next.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm very down pretty in English, so everybody
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: can understand I was.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: With all that ultra sound and everything.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: It was like a phinnic record on Williams right. And
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: then I have two were born on hospitals, and then.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I have two born with midwife.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: With midwife.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Canada was born with midwife, and then in Australia, the
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: WAA was born in the water.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: You know, in the water. It was very nice. I
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: experienced every every.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Wow, what an incredible experience. Yeah, incredible, And then grew up. Yeah,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I watch them grow up along the way. And how
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: do you think the experience of traveling like in this
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: way formed who they are as people?
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, you should make a posca with them, you should
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: ask them, Yeah I should. Yeah, we're really Yeah, it
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: would be the best way to to to see Chester
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: straight from them what it was for them as ad other.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: I can say that we give them the world, We
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: offer them the complete war. We didn't ever tell them
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: be careful with this kind of people. We were all
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: with every kind from extremely rich to extremely ploor, from
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: every kind of religion, from every kind of I don't
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: know citizenship, And no one can tell them be careful
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: with those people. Because we were with that. They took
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: care of us. They share their family, they're home with that.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: So they feel like when they ask them once they's
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: the Tampa, where are you from? I don't know from
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: where I am from the world. They see the world
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: as the country and every country as a province or state.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: They didn't see it like different part of their world
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: that they cannot go. They were there and they enjoy
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: it there like they are their own home. So there's
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: also solves and a way to work, to live, to build,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: to pray, to sing, and they can totally it takes
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: so many different languages and can totally drive on the
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: left side or the right side. It's okay, there's no
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: wrong with that because they were in places that is
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: that the way okay, accepted. They took it there is
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: not like, oh no, this is not the way. So
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: they are such an open mind kids and they learned
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: to adapt every day to something new. You go. Mostly
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: we wear in so many different comps with different cultures.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: We couldn't tell that gets don't it with your hands
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: because next country was all ital hand. We couldn't tell
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: them many things because in the next country will not work.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: So we said, okay, let's see how it's here.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they can see how the people pray because
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: we were in we.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Were most Niams homes.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Most of the countries with India juice with in Africa,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Korean people, European and they were at their home and
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: they can see.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: What they what the other kids play.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: And also they sometimes in some countries they felt that
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: they weren't having so many toys because you know, all
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: these developed countries about United States, Canada, Australia, they have
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: even play rooms in the house only for playing.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: With many toys.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: And maybe in those countries they felt that they don't
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: have any toy. You know, they have two drawers with barbies,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: legs or everything, but very few.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: You know, we couldn't carry so much.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: A little bark with books, yeah, a little box with books.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: And then we were going to Africa, to India, to Asia,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: and they felt that they have so many toys.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: When those kids were looking that little drawer full of thoughts.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so it is. And also it was a very
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: good learning that every time they want a new toy,
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: another toy that they are not using using it, they
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: have to give away. They had to give it to
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: another kid because there's no room for that new toy.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: So if you want a new toy, which is the
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: old toy is going. If you want a new book,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: which is the old book, is going that we cannot
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: take more and more and more. So for there was
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: a very good lesson that if you want something, maybe
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: you got to get s.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, really great lesson if there's only so much space,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: And what a gift for other people to receive.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, how old are they now? The kids?
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Oh my godness, twenty three to old twenty one, eighteen,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: my daughter Paloma, and then a few days my younger
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: will be seventeen.
• 22:22
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  Speaker 5: We are here in Brazil. We are what did they
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: and we are with all of them?
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: That is very very unique, No again, altogether traveling and
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: it's so nice.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody learned us a motor home. The first time
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: we were traveling a motor home, and we even brought
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: a boyfriend and a girlfriend, so we had eight people
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: other rabbits in a motor home traveling around brod Cool.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: That's great, and they have to back at home. What
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: are they doing back at home?
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Well, the oldest one is doing if he was our
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: editor during the journey. He learned so much to edit
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: during the journey and he was uploading the videos. So
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: now what he dies he he that's what he does,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: believing editing videos. And then my second son is doing
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: marketing and he wants to become a pilot, so he
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: already iss tarying for that. Then Paloma, he justished to
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: be a fly assistant. He finish high school.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: She just finished that year.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: She wish now she was staying here one year in
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Brazil the because you know, for being a fly assistant
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: you need to work with people and all that.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: So he's gonna work here for one year experience.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: The youngest one is one more year to go in
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: high school and you want to do then go to
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Australia where he was born, to check over there. And
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: he wanted to starty to be a hotel manager, to
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: be in those beautiful hotels in the Caribbean.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: You want to be good, I can go for them.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: You will have a fighter to take here.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: I love it like this, Yeah, that's so fun.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Different contact them and you asked them all these questions.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I will yes, we should definitely definitely do that. Can
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: you tell me during the journey, like what your route was?
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: So you went from Argentine to Alaska and then you
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: mentioned shipping with Miami and Australia, but what was the
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: overall route that you took.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: We started the year two thousand and we went down
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: went all the way to Alaska.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: At first we went all the way by the east coast,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: by the Pacific. In Equador, we built a raft, we
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: put the car on it, and from Ecuador we went
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: down the Amazon River with the car in a small
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: canoe to Manos. From there we went to Columbia, but Ustralia.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: It was a really hard time in Colombia at that moment,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: but it was so beautiful for us. She has only
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: wonderful memories.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: Then we crossed the Panama and then we did.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: We look for help. We went to the manager of
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: the port in Colombia in Tamata, Novalankia. We asked, we
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: asked for the manager and the manager said, yes, what
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: can I do for you? I said, we are Cadelinia, herman,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: we are going for our drinks. Can you help us?
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: And he said, yeah, what can I do for you?
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: And I showed them a picture of the car. I said,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: we need to cross this car to Panama, but we
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: don't have the money. We will help you, and he
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: found three companies who want to take us for free.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: One of the company who we didn't choose. The owners said, well,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: at least let me pay urban tickets, so we got
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: the airplane tickets to get to Panama. From there, we
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: drove all the way to the Princes of What Island
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: and then we did yeah, we did Route sixty six
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: down to la and then up to Alaska to prou
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: the Bay, and we were allowed to get you all
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: the way to prou Way and then they ship our
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: car back to Argentina, an old company. The owner say,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: who was leaving service. He said, thank you for let
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: let me be part of your dream, because I didn't
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: go for my dream, but now I am part of
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: a dream. And he shipped the car all the way
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: for us to Argentina. From there, we.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Did all Argentina from north to south.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: And we got baby born and while my mom.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Passed away, and that moment we we left.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Again to but before but before we ship it back
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: to Miami, we cut the car in half and we stretched.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: We make it bigger because we knew we will have
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: more bases. We want to have more babies, so we
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: put another row of seats and we put a tent
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: on the roof because they kid were growing and they
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: were not able to sleep with us in the cabin,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: so we put a tent on the roof. We shipped
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: to Miami, we went across Canada and from California we
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: shipped to Australia. We did all around Australia one exactly
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: took us three hundred and sixty five days, and we.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Went to New Zealand, and from New Zealand to Korea.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Japan, Philippines, then from many islands, shop something from one
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: islands to another. We went to Borneo Island, but we
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: were going through little wooden boats that they never took
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: a car before. We had to convene the owner. Note
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: had to do it, but also to do it for
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: free because we were not having the money enough to pay.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: And uh, then we will put some time in front
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: of it the cabin of the pilot and he will
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: not be able to sleep to the front because the
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: car was in front of the cabin. And we went
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: to island in the Philippines and never carve before got
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: there and we came to Borneo.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Then we went to Indonesia, Malaysia and Sumatra Island, Singapore
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: and then continent again China, Nepal, India, and then from
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: India was shipped to South Africa and from there we
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: went all the.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: Way to Kaira to Egypt.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: It was amazing what halfs Africa in Africa really love it,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: really love it. You know something that we like about
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: this car is that any picture you take the car
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: in Africa picture or in the avenue, in the avenue or.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: In Glacier and any place, it's perfect.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: It looks right. It looked right for a picture.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we really love it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: And then we went to Israel, Jordan I'm from.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah. We spent Christmas in Betvenham. It was beautiful, beautiful, fuss.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Then we went to as We couldn't go through Civa
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: and Levan and all.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Those because we were at the World War.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: We shipped from Israel to Turkey, and then from Turkey
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: we went to Europe and went to the Arctic again.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: In Europe, so we went twice to the artist was
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: very very.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: And then from Europe we shipped it in a sailboat
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: that it was older than our car. Imagine a seaboat.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: It was a cargo sheet sailing boat and we shipped
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: from Canaria Island all the way to the French Guiana
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: and we had to be part of the crew. Had
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: you helped you sell the boat?
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: That was amazing.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was all original, the sails of the ropes,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: they were all original from that time, like it was
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: no plastics one. And from friend Guiana we went up
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: to Surinam and from there all the way down through Brazil.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: We were two years extra in Brazil as there was
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: the Then in March twenty twenty two we are write
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: the same spot that saw us living when we left
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: from Bonsari that he said nobody's in downtown and we
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: started from there and no one came to see us
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: to say goodbye. We invite everyone, but saying no way,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna write nowhere, Why will you go? Why
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: we will go to say goodbye if you're not gonna
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: get nowhere. But now there were so many people waiting
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: for us, waiting for us, and you should see it.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Nothing to do with people who live like so afraid,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: like in Panny with white faces, what we're gonna do?
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: What we were starting, and when we were arriving, we
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: saw that everything that went through we went through, it
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: was all organized that we all had to do. It
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: has to go. Every time we have economic problem or
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: babying or car breakdown or whatever it was, someone or
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: something there to be able to fix it for us.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: So when you have a dream, the really really thing
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: is just go. Don't wait to be ready and prepare
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: for everything, because you will never be.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Who is ready for a dream. The world, the world
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: is ready for your dream always.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: They love, they love to be part of journey. I'm
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: from sure in your journey from Canada to Buenos Aires,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: your health. And he also has sold this story right
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: that every time something happened, also something good happen.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: And you always live to take everything. You know, they
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: always think that you have to take everything just in
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: case this happened, just in case this, and you know
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: you can.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: Find that in the world.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Don't take things around the world that the world already
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: have for you. And if you the more you go
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: with things, you are taking a chance of someone to
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: help you to give your hands because if you have
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: everything and anything like, you can't help me with some
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't need anything, thank you. No, you're
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: losing a chance to meet someone, to give him the
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: chance that he was part of a dream. So we
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: ask people to go small. The less you have, the
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: more chances you will have to meet more people.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm hmm. So good, so many gems of wisdom
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: and there.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we we love it, We love it. But
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: the best part it was the party. We were most
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: afraid of people and then we find out that was well.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: All our memories if we close eyes are people faces.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: They are not beautiful landscape that we went through so
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: many and.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: You know what, which was the best blessing in our journey.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: It was to run out of money.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Believe it or not, everything changed, everything changed, everything was
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: for better. You know, when we were having we were
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: passing by. But when we run out of money, we
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: had to connect with people. Can they just have to
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: do water color painting?
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I paint in my life, and you know,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: we have to keep going in our dream.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: So I learned to paint what colors.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Herman learned to frame it and never frame anything before
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: then we had.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: To learn to sun them. We never something before.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: We learned to speak English. We didn't know so much
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: English and so many other languages.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Then in Costa Rica we published our first book about
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: the journey.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: That we never published books.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: We never broke. You know what happened. We were in
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Columbia and someone asked, how do you finand the journey?
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Very common question, right, and we said, well with white
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: white paintings that I trained. But sometimes it's hard to
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: sell because there are people who want to help out,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: but they cannot afford to buy a painting. We are
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: looking for something cheaper. And he said okay, and he
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: took some picture from our photo album and he came
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: back with five hundred postcards that he did with our
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: picture and it was perfect because we will tell you people,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: if you buy me a postcard, you are buying me
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: a leader of gasoline to keep going. And people love it.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: And there he also made some note books with so
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: many white patries inside, with the same picture of the postcard.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: And when I gave it to the people, they said,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: but I was looking to read about your journey. No
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: white tastes. No, it's for you to write your dream.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: No no, I want you to read about your journey and
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: say why not? Why not? And we started to write
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: it and we got to Costa Rica and you know
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: those things that happens, and Basso said, I have no
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: idea where you can print your book, but you must
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: print your book because in five days it is a
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: book international book fair here in Costa Rica, and the
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: guest of honor this year is Argentina. So I have
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: a room to put you in the fir with your card,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: your book, so go and print it.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: And we published our first book there Costa Rica. Spark
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: your dream. We have an incredible Yeah, it's a great
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: it's a great one.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Now we have four books and we will write more books.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: But we had to print in many different languages, right
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: because we were traveling. You had to print in some
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: other language. So we were able to financial journey through there.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I mean there was no Ia in that time, so
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: we had to find people who read it, translated and
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: print it. So now it's my sicians. It would be
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: in a click. We will try a little books in
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: any language and then.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: You ship also the books wherever we were, you know,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: in the middle of nowhere, actually see books because we
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: were sending those books to keep going, not to pay
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: their patrol, and many tuffs of the journey, and uh.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: It was always a logistic a lot of it.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: It's amazing how many things you can do, you really,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: how incredible you are. You can be a uh you know, artisan,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: You can be a mechanic, you can be a troubler,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: you can be an adventure you can be a diplomatic, you
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: can be a seller. You reator you can teacher.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: I was a teacher.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: And you can be a give a speech in different
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: languages and sing like wow. And you never thought that
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: you would be able to go through Thettlantic or down
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: the Amazon or so many islands the Pacific, or you
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: meet like Mashie or the Pope. How can how will
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: you be meeting like people like that? Or so many
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: things like wow? But the disagrees. Just go. The war
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: is waiting.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Just go. Yeah, very good advice.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Just go.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: You probably will never be ready, so you may as
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: well just hat out. And I like what you're saying
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: because it's like you had to be resourceful and take
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: one day at a time and learn new skills. And
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I think now it's easier than ever to be able
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: to sort of pivot and change jobs or develop new
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: skills so that you can do these things on the road.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: And you as your testament to that because you're doing it.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Before we had online work pretty much right. Yeah, there's
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: so yeah, it's it's you can do it.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: It's so much better. It's so much better, better, better, better,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: because you have this fond that relate whatever conversation you have.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: You had this group of people in every continent or country.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: They are in every little town a traveler that now
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: you can contact and they will recommend you a mechanic
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: or whatever. You're alone at all now you are no
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: resurrounded people who want to be part of your journey.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: One we broke down a differential and we're going to
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: find a differential for this car, and we put it
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: in our instan run and Facebook. We are looking for
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: differential for the Graham page nineteen twenty. Can you help?
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: But you find one? And people who never look even
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: for their own card parts, they try to look as
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: to anywhere everywhere. And there was a differential who show
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: up in Australia and a differential who show up in Canada.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: And the guys put in our comments, they put okay,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: if you want it, you can come and take it
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: or tell me how to ship it to you. And
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: someone in the same comments say, look, I am a
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: pilot from Ivaria company, a Spanish company. I am right
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: now in Canada. I can take it back to Spain
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: it is closer to Africa. And another one another person
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: in the same comments say, look, I sent tourists to
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: South Africa. If the part comes to Spain, I can
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: put it in a tourist bag and he will take
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: it to South Africa. And another person from South Africa,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: and the comments, but we'll love to take it to you.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: If I need to take a bath or whatever, I
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: will take it to you. So then go, we broke down,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: then go. We had this now this network where all
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: these people are part of the journey. We were not
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: alone at all when we start to have this network. Evely,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: it's such a beautiful word, isn't it.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: It sure is.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: And I think it's so important to remember this because
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of the information we're given is about our differences,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: or about how you should be afraid of other people,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: or you know, we're all isolated in our own little
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: world now doing our own little thing, and the power
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: of community and the power of sharing a meal or
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: having people over, especially you know, post COVID. It's just
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: like such a good reminder and your experience is such
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: a testament to that.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And we were not lucky for fifteen day
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: journey where wonderful thing happened. We were blessed for twenty
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: two years. So it is like that. It's not something
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: that happened once or twice or three times. It was
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: something that happened for many times. For solar.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, I read somewhere about that you guys took an
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: abandoned canoe, like you put your vehicle in an abandoned canoe.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: And was this in Brazil in the Amazon.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, Innapo, in an apple in the Napo River in Coca.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Someone later used his abandoned canoe. There was twenty two
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: meters long, made of iron metal, but it was half
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: under the water, half out of the water, with holes,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: no engine, no propeller, no rather, And we asked you
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: we could use it. An engine show up that it
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: was not working, but the mechanics show up and fix it.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: The propeller show up, and the diesel show up and
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: we build it together with so many people who didn't
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: have nothing but their hands to help us. We build
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: a rap and we needed none need to pay you
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: aboriginals who will come down the Amazon with that because
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: they know how to speak the language, how to sell
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: on the river, because it's not easy. Plus if we
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: need food or fishing or something, they will know how to.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: And they were charging us two dollars a day or
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: for two dos a day only, but we didn't have them.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: So Candela went to Key, to the capital of Ecuador,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: and put a signs in the civil cafe or hostel.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Asking for people to enjoy the journey, that we were
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: like travelations. I didn't know anything about that river. I
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: was gonna be the navigation.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: And two English guys back me and they came and
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: they asked me.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: They asked me first, tell me when are we living,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: When when the boat will be ready, and what we
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: are gonna arrive, because I have an authenticate to take
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: to London.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: But I don't have any idea. What did you navigate
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: sometime other time?
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: No, I don't you have apps? We have mapps. No
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: we don't have apps. Okay, we are going with you.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: They were more adventure than as, but it was an
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: amazing journey. Right. It was an amazing, amazing journey because
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: imagine we we had to feature it. We were every
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: night landing and they made abortition of people that they
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: never saw a car before. We were in the national
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: part that there was nobody because it's down there in
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: the Amazon.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Were with crocodiles, We ate pian onions everything.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, thank god they didn't need it, and we.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Were in the wedding and wedding it was amazing.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They prepared the alcoholic drink and chewing the mandoca
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: like to potato manioca right, and the woman to ed
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: had to be virgin woman to chew the mandiocre and
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: with their saliva and barkilia that they have in the mouth,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: this mandocre that is a little bit sweet, it will
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: ferment and will become an alcoholic drink and it will
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: be inside of the spot and they will come and
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: bring it to you after fifteen twenty day become alcoholic
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: and you have to drinking from that and they will
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: feed you with whatever they were able to hat on
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: the on the jungle. And as soon as they had
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: something so it doesn't get rot, they had to cook it.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: And the only way to cook it the aman said
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: it was smoke because there is no dry wood that
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: it will get fired, so it will get something, but
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: it was it will be just smoke. So everything stalls
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: like smoke, and they will bring you maybe at the
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: arm of a monkey, and it's like you're eating a
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: baby because you see the fingers. Everything It was like wood.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: But it was really nice feelings, really CALLI. I was
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: learning English a lot because we had to British with
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: that all the time. And one day, like twenty days
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: after down the river and only the only woman on
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: the boat, she came with the broom because she's cleaned
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: the deg and she said, I am the pitch of
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: the boat. And I said what I said, Yes, I
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: am the boat. I said, Kenny, I think you were
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: twenty to say, which you know it was. But my
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: English was very bad.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little different between anguige and the guys. Yeah.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: And the guy was asking okay, how much do you
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: charge and thing like that that she was pushing them
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: out to the world. Oh man, it was fun.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Well what an adventure, so you said, said twenty twenty
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: days on the river.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Was amazing, amazing learning because we realize how capable we
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: are right, because we have to with a lot of
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: help in that town. We had to restore all this
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: abandoned Canymoon, and we really didn't know where we were going.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: The abolition of people that were with us. They never
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: did that part of the river, and it was we
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: were having problems all the time with the boat and
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: with the engine and the propeller.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: We lost a rather. Can you imagine losting a rather
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: is like losing your stilling wheeling the car? How did
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: you drive it?
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: We were the guys with a machette.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Machete.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they brought a piece of log and they built
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: another rader with that, and it was amazing.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Once we broke the belt of the engine, they cooled
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: down the engine and charged the batteries. And where we're
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: gonna get a belt? In the amas So I was
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: trying with my belt, with my cart belt, I was
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: trying with socks, I was trying with ropes. Nothing worked.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: And the end I saw my spur tire and I
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: took out the tube and I cut the tube in
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: rings and I pulled it like a rubber band as
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: a belt and it did work for maybe four or
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: five six hours. Then it will break. But I will
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: have actually cut another one, and we made it all
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: the way to Itikito, Peru, big city in the Amazon,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: where we were able to find the belt.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: And there in the jungle, they don't manage the the
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: money right, so we were.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Taking like keirosine or rise things for the aboritional there
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: for the community, and we exchange.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: I give you this, and you give me a chicken.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I give you this.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: It like exchange.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: And the amazing thing is when you go down the
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Amazon River or whatever those places you are, you are well,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: can't you go into any home that they are own?
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Sticks their homes right, they're always up there and you
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: don't have to have permission. You just get there and
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: put your things to sleep, because that's what they always
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: do too when they go up or down the river
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: to visit family or wedding or whatever. They go and
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: they fast the night in somebody at home. But it
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: is so usual that you don't have to have permission.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: When we got into one, there was no one. And
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: they have the where you made the fire. They have
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: like a place where they have a lot of earth
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: and ground material where they make the fire and you
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: cook your thing, your fish, and this guy show up
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: the owners and they didn't get at all. Are like
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: so used to have gas but they never have a
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: white girls. They look at us like the weird people
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: we were. But then we finished cooking together and things
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: like that and it was like, wow, it's so beautiful
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: the Amazon.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: Hm hmm.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: And it's not life because they don't have you know, knife.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: They do have a knife, but they don't have a
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: four because if they have a four, they need to
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: have a plate. If they do have a plate, they
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: need to have a table. And they have a table,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: they had to have a chair. So they shall go
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: with a knife and they can't sit down and eat anywhere.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: Simple, amazing, simple, love it.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. But however the car, the car was so simple,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: no electronics, no computers, any any gas kind of gas.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: It will work. You know, in Africa there was not
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: allowed to get into a national park with car that
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: there were not four white four and we wouldn't miss.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: We wanted to go into the national park with the
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: car because if you go with the chief that they
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: take you and Safari is so expensive and so we
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: have to go with the car. So you know, how
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: we fix it. We bought this little plackage that say
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: four by four and we glew it you the one
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: side of the car. And in the end time when
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: they ask is this car four by four? Yes, you
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: can tell you look and.
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: There we're going and wait so many times.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: In the man. But it's good to have fours in
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: that situation. It's very good to have four kas you
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: push the.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Car right, Oh my gosh, that's your four wheel drive.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. I never said it's a good one.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: You're a good You're really good.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Did you guys have some difficulties with visas at any
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: point or border crossings or.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Paper Oh yeah, oh jempary vehicle import permit.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, of course, of course. But we never have
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: a problem in the whole journey. We have only how
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: you collector challenges, challenges, and it's so wonderful you have challenges.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: It's so good. The more challenges you have, it's like
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: those rocks that are on your road. You can use them.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: You can use them to build stairs, you can use
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: it to build home castles. Don't don't see them like
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: a problem, see them like, okay, how do we go
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: through with this?
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: What happened were in Mexico and we need to take
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: apply for visa for Canada for me, and we went
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: to apply but they say no, we go.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: We don't have credit cards. We didn't have a credit card.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: She was pregnant.
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so they say no one for us.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: Was very, very a sad moment, you know, because when
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: you travel you you can see that there's no borders.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: You know, the ones the same world.
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: One that you left in the other country. Here we
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: are all the same for us, the borders are. It
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: doesn't have to exist, you know.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we are so sad. And also they put
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: a rest down in your passport telling you denied it.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: And it's so nice that in your pastor says that
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: you are denied. First I went with our.
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: Dream there and we were like, we said, no way,
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: what dream is to get to Alaska.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: So we contacted a Canadian friend that we met going
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: up to Machu Picchu that we made the tread together.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: We invited to come to his home when we went
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: to Alaska, and we said, well, look this is the situation.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: We got denied. I don't know how we're going to
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: go anyway through, but uh, we were. We were denied.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: And he asked us lovely questions about the journey. He
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: asked us for a picture, and he never did. He
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: never did an article, but he did wrote an article
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: for the magazine about Vitage Cards, that is a very
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: famous magazine in Canada. Go from coach to coast and
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: they told about our dream, a lot about our car.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: And the last paragraphs said, but this drink can be
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: accomplished because Canada denied their path to Alaska. But if
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: you want to help them, invite them. And we got
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: more than three hundred letters invitations to go to Canada.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: And when we are right to Washington, we went back
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: to the embassy of Canada and this lady, the one
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: we had to fill up, performed as say. And the
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: last three questions was, have you ever had a very
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: bad disease like this? This, this or this? No? Have
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: you ever been a terrory? Have you ever been a murder?
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Or have you ever been in jail? No? Have you
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: ever been denied to visa to Canada? Yeah, And we
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: went up there to the window and we started to
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: say hello, and she didn't even say hello to us,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: She didn't even look to us. And we said, Hi,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: we are looking to make the visa. We are from Argentina.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: We are traveling a winter car and she looked up,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: are you the one with the vinter's cars. We got
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: so many phone calls here, what do you need there?
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: I say everything. I need a multiply entries to need one,
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: I say everything. I asked for everything, and did she started.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Passport okay, and then it was spectacular. But go now
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: we have three hundred imitations to stay Keller. So there
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: was no one night, only one night that we couldn't
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: lived in a family home because the car broke down.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: But then every now we were in kenny homes. So
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: thank god Mexico. Yeah, then the other country is the same. Yeah,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: so other country we got like even for the Philippine,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: you cannot take a car. It's not allowed to take
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: a car into the Philippine. And we said, come on,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: it is when makes beautiful country, we should And we
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: counted the embassy of Argentina, who only worked to Argentina,
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: very tiny embassy, and we asked to the ambassador. He
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: didn't know nothing about our journey, but he said, maybe
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: we can make it look like it's a diplomatic car.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: So let's me get get into like a diplomatic car.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: But you will have to do the paperwork. And it
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: took us three months to get the car out of
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: the custom because it's very co wrong country, right, And
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: we asked for a custom broker, and the cartoon broker
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: as cast like three thousand dollars because it will be
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of pride. And I said, no, we don't
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: do bribes. We never play a bride, We will never
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: play ack. Okay, you do it by yourself. And we
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: went on with the whole family, death by death. And
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: you know, only one day we got the car out
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: of the port and thank god, we went to the
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: philipm and it's so beautiful people.
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like this, what am I trying to say.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: It's about like looking outside the box and going about
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: things a different way, you know, like you were saying,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: just because it's a no doesn't mean it's not impossible. Yeah,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: so there are sometimes ways around it.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: It's such a good.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Thing to remember when you're going on the road and
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: you're like, well I can't do this, but sometimes you can.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They don't know, you know.
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: Actually so many times we asked what we are doing here?
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: Why we are not at home.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: Just watching watching Discovery Channel. I'm not discovered ourselfs, you know,
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: like sometimes no, but then when you go through that challenge,
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: it's like, wow, we made And also you are so far,
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: so far that you need to keep going.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: You have to. You have to go and do it.
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: There's no other way, otherwise you will stay there stuck.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: M h.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: I think that love give you your life, a recent
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: to live. I think a dreams give a meaning to
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: your life, and challenge give you a flavor. So it's
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: good to have. Don't try to avoid and go for them.
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: Great.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, thank you for sharing your dream and the
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: accomplishment of your dream with us today on the podcast.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: It's been an absolute pleasure chatting with you too. And
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad you made into Canada. I'm glad you
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: worked it out for you, you worked it out actually,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: but yeah, maybe all that you.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Know, all that story, all that story isn't our book,
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: you know, because we brought in English. We have only
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: the first book written published and the name is Sparked
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: your Dream and it's from Argentina to Alaska. So you
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: can read all that about Canada, visa what happened to us?
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Great?
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: I was just gonna ask you about that.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Actually, where can we find you online and also as
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: a book is called Smark Your Dream.
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah Amazon, Amazon, Amazon.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: If you want, you just send us a message in
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Instagram as a staff family Zabi is a z app
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: and we will find a way to get the book
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: to you.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Over there, you will see the car, what kind of
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: car we are, we are we want traveling and all
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: the story so you can check it.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: Out all on Instagram and on Amazon. Perfect.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you you too so much for joining me
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: on the podcast today. It's been such a wonderful experience
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: to chat with you about your your big trip.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: So yeah, thank you so much.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Thank you come back to Argentina again, so we meet
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: you again, Deil.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Thank you also to the Overland Journal podcast listeners for
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: tuning into today's episode. If you have any recommendations of
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: guests or you'd like some questions answered, you can always
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: direct message me on Instagram and my handle is at
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Desk to Glory Underscore Ash. Again, thanks for tuning in
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: today and we will catch you next time.